| --- | Log | opened Fri Jan 28 00:00:37 2005 |
| 00:07 | dopester | looks to all be encrypted |
| 00:07 | hadees | dopester, do you need a tuner? |
| 00:08 | hadees | shouldn't we be able to break cable encryption, i mean we have encrypted data and how the video looks on the screen |
| 00:09 | Beirdo | that's illegal, hadees. Bad boy |
| 00:09 | hadees | Beirdo, doing it illegal, this is speculation |
| 00:09 | hadees | doing it is illegal |
| 00:10 | hadees | i know you create a program like SETI but to break cable encryption |
| 00:10 | hadees | and share it over bit torrent |
| 00:11 | Beirdo | well, you know where the government representatives are to complain. |
| 00:11 | hadees | then with the program you use the massive amount of band width of the p2p community |
| 00:11 | hadees | and commuting power |
| 00:11 | hadees | computing |
| 00:12 | dopester | there are 4 channels so far that are fta |
| 00:12 | hadees | fta? |
| 00:12 | dopester | unencrypted |
| 00:13 | hadees | are they still digital? |
| 00:13 | hadees | or is it like normal cable |
| 00:14 | dopester | i dont know |
| 00:14 | dopester | the box im messing with is in NJ and im in NC |
| 00:14 | hadees | hehe, is it your box? |
| 00:15 | dopester | yeah i control a vast array of boxes around the globe.. |
| 00:15 | dopester | and they happen to have air2pcs in all of them hooked up to arbitrary sources |
| 00:15 | hadees | that would be cool, i wish i did |
| 00:16 | hadees | i always wanted to put one at my parents to get football |
| 00:16 | Beirdo | dammit |
| 00:17 | Beirdo | commercial skipping just hung my frontend |
| 00:17 | Beirdo | sigh |
| 00:17 | hadees | i never care about that just as long the backend doesn't crash |
| 00:17 | hadees | thats all i care about |
| 00:18 | Beirdo | ahh, it recovered. |
| 00:18 | Beirdo | but quit the recording playback |
| 00:18 | Captain_Murdo | | probably not flagged and it was diong the manual searching for blank-frames. may have searched to the end and got an EOF |
| 00:19 | Beirdo | well, the show was from Monday |
| 00:19 | Beirdo | but you could be right |
| 00:19 | Beirdo | I'll see if it occurs again on another show |
| 00:19 | Captain_Murdo | | doublecheck by going into edit mode and hitting Z then C. |
| 00:20 | Beirdo | ah. OK |
| 00:20 | Beirdo | it loads them then clears them |
| 00:20 | Captain_Murdo | | C is clear |
| 00:20 | Captain_Murdo | | Q works also actually |
| 00:21 | Captain_Murdo | | since most people who do comm skip will have Z & Q mapped already. |
| 00:21 | Beirdo | I think it just skipped to the end of the show, it was the last break |
| 00:21 | Beirdo | maybe I'm just an idiot |
| 00:21 | Captain_Murdo | | autoskip or manual with Z? |
| 00:21 | Beirdo | manual |
| 00:22 | Captain_Murdo | | ok. some people have reported problems with auto-skip at the end of some shows, but I've never been able to reproduce. |
| 00:22 | Beirdo | ah. well, I'll keep my eyes open |
| 00:23 | dopester | well this is pretty damn cool.. digital cable with the air2pc.. too damn bad its all encrypted |
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| 00:25 | Beirdo | heh |
| 00:27 | Chutt | dopester, qam256 or 64? |
| 00:29 | dopester | 256 |
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| 00:31 | Chutt | _probably_ the local hd channels |
| 00:34 | dopester | whats probbably the local hd channels? |
| 00:34 | Beirdo | so, Chutt, the backend is happy now with tonight's CVS. |
| 00:38 | Captain_Murdo | | Just to verify, if I add new text using tr() to a source file, do I just run "lupdate translate.pro ; lrelease translate.pro" and then cvs commit? |
| 00:40 | Captain_Murdo | | guess I could just get Oscar to do it when I'm up in a few hours for a maintenance window (work not personal) :) since he'll probably be online. |
| 00:41 | dopester | now all we need is a CI interface on the Air2PC and we got a OpenCable card.. |
| 00:41 | dopester | too bad it will never happen |
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| 00:42 | dopester | chutt: i have to have been looking at this guys complete digital lineup.. i had about 10 multiplexes each with 10-15 channels on em |
| 00:42 | dopester | and i stopped tuning and looking after tuning to about 30 channels |
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| 00:47 | Chutt | the 4 fta channels |
| 00:48 | Chutt | unless there's more? :p |
| 00:48 | Beirdo | Jeez, Cardo's an ass on the mailing list too, it seems |
| 00:48 | Beirdo | Cardoe rather |
| 00:48 | Chutt | i've got 4 locals that are supposedly in the clear |
| 00:49 | dopester | chutt: i made some stream dumps and just based on the size of them id have to say they are the hd stations |
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| 00:49 | dopester | well that completely sucks ass.. i was thinking there might be a chance the basic digital channels would be fta |
| 00:50 | dopester | just hbo and that stuff would be encrypted |
| 00:50 | Chutt | heh |
| 00:51 | dopester | chutt: what cable company do you have? |
| 00:51 | Chutt | when they brought out my new cable box, all i got were the hd locals until they added the box to my account - none of the other digital channels |
| 00:51 | Chutt | comcast |
| 00:51 | Captain_Murdo | | Beirdo: but thanks to Cardoe, literally dozen's of disenfranchised gentoo users will finally be able to compile CVS Myth on gentoo. |
| 00:51 | dopester | ahh |
| 00:51 | Beirdo | Umm. |
| 00:51 | Beirdo | I think that should say "thanks to Chutt" |
| 00:52 | dopester | gotta love the old dvb table cruft in the db now.. :) |
| 00:52 | Beirdo | I do believe that Chutt was the one that fixed the issue :) |
| 00:52 | Captain_Murdo | | :) they'll still find a way to hose it up. I'm not talking about the lib fix. :) I mean autoconf/automake. :) for those who can't figure out how to type "qmake" |
| 00:52 | Beirdo | ahhh |
| 00:53 | Beirdo | qmake has bugs at times too, of course, but Chutt's points make perfect sense to me :) |
| 00:53 | Beirdo | and I *like* autotools for my own stuff. |
| 00:53 | Chutt | the only thing i wish qmake did was per-file cflags |
| 00:53 | Chutt | and maybe better inter-directory dep handling |
| 00:53 | Beirdo | that would be nice. |
| 00:54 | Beirdo | but if you are using Qt, qmake is the logical choice for sure |
| 00:54 | Captain_Murdo | | I use auto* for a GUI chat client I wrote in GTK, but that's because I used Glade to make the initial UI. |
| 00:54 | Captain_Murdo | | configure checks way too much stuff when all you want is something simple a lot of times. |
| 00:55 | Beirdo | most of my projects are C and no gui at all, so autotools works well for me in those situations |
| 00:55 | Beirdo | but it does add a lot to distribution size for sure |
| 00:56 | Beirdo | so I guess to Cardoe, for someone to disagree with him is to insult him. |
| 00:57 | laga | re |
| 01:12 | dopester | i betcha you could take the demod off of a air2pc and put it on a dvb card with a CI interface and use a CableCard |
| 01:14 | Chutt | oops |
| 01:14 | Chutt | wife's going to be pissed |
| 01:14 | Chutt | one of the speakers marked up a wall a bit |
| 01:14 | dopester | she'll get over it :) |
| 01:15 | Chutt | naw |
| 01:15 | Chutt | not if i touch it up with some left over paint |
| 01:15 | Captain_Murdo | | Beirdo: you probably want to change that mpeg2cut query you have looking for the highest type 6 record to look for 6 or 9. |
| 01:16 | Beirdo | ahhh. |
| 01:16 | Beirdo | thanks |
| 01:16 | Captain_Murdo | | that's what the other guy was having a problem with. do a max(mark) where type in (6,9) |
| 01:16 | Beirdo | what data does the type 9 have? a frame number, an index, what? |
| 01:17 | Beirdo | for type 6 it is a GOP number, effectively |
| 01:17 | Captain_Murdo | | dvb stuff and maybe hdtv but not sure. it's another thing for mpeg2 files that the GOP stuff didn't work for. |
| 01:17 | Captain_Murdo | | don't know exactly, just know I've had to code around it some. :) |
| 01:17 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 01:18 | Beirdo | OK, well I'll look into it tomorrow, I guess |
| 01:18 | Beirdo | I'm a bit too tired to mess with the script tonight |
| 01:18 | dopester | i think type 9 is dvb and hd gop marking |
| 01:18 | Beirdo | I have to redo the DVD exporter for nuvexport using ffmpeg too |
| 01:19 | Beirdo | dopester: could you grab me a few sequential records of type 9 from a recording? |
| 01:20 | dopester | yeah hang on a sec |
| 01:20 | Beirdo | argh |
| 01:20 | Beirdo | that's three recordings now without sound |
| 01:21 | Beirdo | and all off CBC |
| 01:21 | Beirdo | wonder if that machine needs a powercycle |
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| 01:49 | Chutt | bah, all these changes |
| 01:49 | Chutt | keep having to recompile |
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| 02:00 | Chutt | heh |
| 02:00 | Chutt | that libsoundtouch mmx stuff is what fucked things up |
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| 02:49 | streamtrade | Do you need someone to test building cvs now, or shall I wait until the am? |
| 03:03 | Chutt | it should be fine |
| 03:04 | Chutt | i've been building it all night |
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| 08:19 | Dr_Barnowl | Sorry to ask in the dev group, but how can I fix "Unable to get major 81" errors when loading videodev? |
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| 09:52 | rkulagow__ | chutt: here? |
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| 11:05 | thor_ | Anyone having issues with the mailing lists ? |
| 11:07 | Beirdo | Sorry, I wouldn't really notice, I receive digests. |
| 11:07 | Beirdo | argh |
| 11:07 | Beirdo | my post was from the wrong userid. I hate when I do that |
| 11:08 | Beirdo | awaits moderator approval. God I suck |
| 11:08 | thor_ | ooops, nm |
| 11:09 | Beirdo | and I don't think I have a copy to send properly. Ah well, I'll re-reply later |
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| 11:40 | stoffel | so, any opinion on changing the priorities menu options? |
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| 14:49 | rkulagow__ | haven't seen this before (current CVS checkout) |
| 14:49 | rkulagow__ | [mythtv@basement mythtv]$ cd mythtv |
| 14:49 | rkulagow__ | [mythtv@basement mythtv]$ ./configure |
| 14:49 | rkulagow__ | Please note that these settings only deal with libavcodec, not MythTV. |
| 14:49 | rkulagow__ | CPU x86 |
| 14:49 | rkulagow__ | Big Endian no |
| 14:49 | rkulagow__ | MMX enabled yes |
| 14:49 | rkulagow__ | Vector Builtins no |
| 14:50 | rkulagow__ | Creating config.mak and config.h |
| 14:50 | rkulagow__ | [mythtv@basement mythtv]$ qmake mythtv.pro |
| 14:50 | rkulagow__ | [mythtv@basement mythtv]$ make qmake |
| 14:50 | rkulagow__ | cd libs && qmake -o Makefile |
| 14:50 | rkulagow__ | cd filters && qmake -o Makefile |
| 14:50 | rkulagow__ | cd programs && qmake -o Makefile |
| 14:50 | rkulagow__ | Project ERROR: Please run the configure script first |
| 14:50 | rkulagow__ | make: *** [programs/Makefile] Error 2 |
| 14:50 | rkulagow__ | [mythtv@basement mythtv]$ |
| 14:51 | stoffel_ | doesn't happen here with latest cvs |
| 14:52 | Beirdo | maybe a make distclean is in order? |
| 14:52 | Beirdo | didn't happen here either |
| 14:52 | stoffel_ | cool, chutt now owns rkulagow__'s computer |
| 14:52 | Beirdo | heheh |
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| 15:20 | Anduin | rkulagow__ - that stuff was removed in a commit last night |
| 15:31 | rkulagow__ | well, this is from a checkout from about 5 seconds before i posted here into an empty mythtv directory |
| 15:32 | rkulagow__ | every file was grabbed, so any CVS changes should have come down with it. |
| 15:32 | rkulagow__ | but just for grins: |
| 15:32 | rkulagow__ | [mythtv@basement mythtv]$ make distclean |
| 15:32 | rkulagow__ | cd programs && qmake -o Makefile |
| 15:32 | rkulagow__ | Project ERROR: Please run the configure script first |
| 15:32 | rkulagow__ | make: *** [programs/Makefile] Error 2 |
| 15:33 | stoffel | you ran ./configure? |
| 15:33 | Beirdo | hahah |
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| 15:33 | stoffel | and i'm not joking |
| 15:34 | rkulagow__ | yes, i ran configure. it's up in scrollback. |
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| 15:40 | rkulagow__ | ok, just tried again. same deal. |
| 15:40 | rkulagow__ | $ rm -rf mythtv |
| 15:40 | rkulagow__ | $ cvs -d :pserver:mythtv@cvs.mythtv.org:/var/lib/mythcvs login |
| 15:40 | rkulagow__ | $ cvs -z3 -d :pserver:mythtv@cvs.mythtv.org:/var/lib/mythcvs checkout mythtv |
| 15:41 | Beirdo | hmm |
| 15:41 | stoffel | i'm just doing a clean checkout, maybe it doesn't happen for updated sources |
| 15:41 | rkulagow__ | $ cd mythtv |
| 15:41 | rkulagow__ | $ ./configure |
| 15:41 | rkulagow__ | $ qmake mythtv.pro |
| 15:41 | rkulagow__ | $ make |
| 15:41 | Beirdo | well, my last update was last night, so it's possible it got bent after that |
| 15:41 | rkulagow__ | then error |
| 15:42 | rkulagow__ | box is FC2 |
| 15:56 | stoffel | rkulagow__: works fine on debian unstable with a fresh checkout |
| 15:57 | rkulagow__ | stoffel: hrmm. |
| 15:57 | rkulagow__ | interesting |
| 15:59 | Chutt | might be related to the version of qt.. |
| 15:59 | rkulagow__ | $ rpm -qa|grep qt |
| 15:59 | rkulagow__ | qt-3.1.2-14 |
| 15:59 | rkulagow__ | qt-MySQL-3.1.2-14 |
| 15:59 | rkulagow__ | qt-devel-3.1.2-14 |
| 16:00 | Anduin | rkulagow__ - have you looked at the Makefile? |
| 16:01 | Chutt | anduin, it's the include(config.mak) in the top level settings.pro |
| 16:01 | stoffel | rkulagow__: err, actually i tested './configure && qmake mythtv.pro && make' |
| 16:03 | stoffel | nm, i'm tired |
| 16:06 | Chutt | i don't think qt 3.1 scopes the include right |
| 16:14 | Chutt | rkulagow, i'll have a fix in tonight. |
| 16:14 | rkulagow__ | chutt: thanks |
| 16:24 | Beirdo | ah, that'd be why I'm not seeing this, I use qt 3.3.3 I think |
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| 17:09 | Wildgoose | Chutt: Did you see my small patch to fix a little bugette in the mythmusic code. avfddecoder and cddecoder didn't have a number of channels set |
| 17:09 | Chutt | yes |
| 17:09 | Chutt | i fixed avfdecoder last night. |
| 17:09 | Wildgoose | Cool. Did you do it the same way as my patch? (ie just read the value in initialise?) |
| 17:09 | Chutt | pretty much. |
| 17:10 | Wildgoose | cool. We also need a chan=2 in cddecoder. Tested it here. |
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| 17:27 | Anduin | Chutt - so are you ok with the new tags as implemented? |
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| 18:03 | srqhivemind | anyone have problems emerging .16 on gentoo 2.6.10? it keeps failing emerge... |
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| 19:11 | Chutt | anduin, yeah, though i'd think that the extra class in xmlparse.cpp could just be included in the big class |
| 19:11 | Chutt | didn't have time to go through it completely last night, though. |
| 19:12 | srqhivemind | anyone here run gentoo? |
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| 19:12 | Chutt | no. |
| 19:13 | Chutt | you may want to read the topic of the channel, though. |
| 19:13 | srqhivemind | oh, heh, missed that |
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| 19:32 | Chutt | anduin, the filters don't need to know about size changes - they're reinitialized on every single one |
| 19:32 | Chutt | ah ha |
| 19:32 | Chutt | that's what it is.. |
| 19:32 | Chutt | i don't think there's a lock around that reinitialization. |
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| 19:50 | stoffel | anyone else noticed some blue distortions with the goom vis. in mythmusic? it worked fine the last time i used it (months ago) |
| 19:51 | stoffel | or is it supposed to look like this? |
| 19:51 | stoffel | ;) |
| 19:51 | mikegrb | yes |
| 19:52 | stoffel | hrm, :( i liked the older goom more |
| 19:52 | mikegrb | well I wasn't necessarily saying it was supposed to look like that ;) |
| 19:53 | stoffel | but still i think you are right |
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| 19:56 | Chutt | screen shot? |
| 19:56 | Chutt | i don't think any of the guts changed much |
| 19:58 | stoffel | never mind, i think it works as intended. |
| 20:08 | GreyFoxx | Hrm, Ran into this error a little while ago |
| 20:08 | GreyFoxx | DB Error (delta position map insert): |
| 20:08 | GreyFoxx | Query was: |
| 20:08 | GreyFoxx | INSERT INTO recordedmarkup (chanid, starttime, mark, type, offset) VALUES ( '1009' , '20050128200000' , '4725' , :TYPE , :OFFSET NULL |
| 20:08 | GreyFoxx | Driver error was [2/1064]: |
| 20:08 | GreyFoxx | QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query |
| 20:09 | GreyFoxx | Database error was: |
| 20:09 | GreyFoxx | You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ':TYPE , :OFFSET NULL' at line 1 |
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| 20:14 | bytenik | dopester: You around yet? :P |
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| 20:39 | Anduin | Chutt - are you sure about that, if you recall this is the same thing I ran into some time ago, the kerneldeint stuff was very unhappy with frames that didn't have a size. |
| 20:41 | Anduin | Chutt - yeah, the extra class was/is mostly to save compile time, there are many things in the public interface of xmlparse that just cause recompiles when you change them, I understand the hesitancy but it was nice to be able to add/remove data/functinons as needed and recompile a single file. |
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| 20:42 | Anduin | Chutt - if you don't commit them just revert and I'll send another patch, it is a little further along, the first one was more to see if you or someone else would just shoot it out of the water before I put more work into it. |
| 20:45 | Anduin | On an unrelated note, I have a theory about time stretch and prolonged exposure causing some form of psychosis. |
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| 21:03 | Delemas | Chutt: Is that fix for the build issues in CVS now? Last night, even with a clean CVS checkout I was only able to build mythtv and mythweb out of all the plugins... |
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| 21:06 | Beirdo | Delemas |
| 21:06 | Delemas | yes |
| 21:06 | Beirdo | what version of qt? |
| 21:06 | Delemas | pretty current sec... |
| 21:06 | Beirdo | sorry, hit the wrong key :) |
| 21:06 | Beirdo | meant to hit :, hit enter :) |
| 21:07 | Delemas | smilies can't hurt :) |
| 21:07 | Delemas | qt-3.3.3-12 |
| 21:07 | Beirdo | OK, it's not likely the same issue that rkulagow__ had then |
| 21:08 | Delemas | I have had no problems building cvs snapshots up until 20050123. |
| 21:09 | | gr8nash-home | im building fresh right now.. ill let you know |
| 21:10 | | * Delemas builds a current snapshot for kicks... |
| 21:12 | stoffel | hm, there's a buglet in the way alternative texts are chosen for the menus. only the english entries are considered but not the one from the language currently used. |
| 21:21 | | gr8nash-home | they are all compiling just fine here |
| 21:21 | | gr8nash-home | tv ..video..dvd.. music.. all compiled |
| 21:23 | Anduin | Delemas - did you look at the makefile and see where it thinks it should be? |
| 21:24 | Delemas | I took a quick look. It wasn't immediately obvious where it was getting it from. |
| 21:25 | Delemas | I was very tired at the time... |
| 21:25 | Delemas | I'll try a new build tonight and dig deeper this time if it doesn't work again... |
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| 22:24 | dopester | chutt: you think anyone would care about unencrypted opencable support? |
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| 22:37 | | * Hamstaman ist jetzt nicht mehr da wegen: busy |
| 22:38 | Beirdo | English please, Hamstaman |
| 22:38 | mikegrb | Beirdo: he is curently not here |
| 22:38 | mikegrb | Beirdo: :p |
| 22:39 | Beirdo | yeah, but he can see it later |
| 22:39 | mikegrb | Beirdo: that is what he said silly! |
| 22:39 | Beirdo | I'm sure he did :) |
| 22:40 | mikegrb | Beirdo: <3 |
| 22:40 | Beirdo | how's it goin, BTW? :) |
| 22:41 | mikegrb | not too bad |
| 22:42 | Beirdo | I'll be spending time this weekend installing asterisk :) |
| 22:42 | mikegrb | excellent |
| 22:42 | Beirdo | and working on nuvexport |
| 22:42 | Beirdo | and maybe on nuv2avi too |
| 22:42 | Delemas | Beirdo: What are you hooking up to it? |
| 22:42 | mikegrb | http://thegrebs.com/admin/asterisk-stat/cdr.php?s=1http://thegrebs.com/admin/asterisk-stat/cdr.php?s=1 <- set this up last night |
| 22:42 | Delemas | asterisk I mean... |
| 22:42 | mikegrb | er |
| 22:43 | mikegrb | the url is there twich butg I'm sure you can figure it out |
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| 22:43 | Beirdo | Oooh, pretty |
| 22:44 | mikegrb | though outgoing calls from home don''t go through that server |
| 22:44 | Beirdo | Delemas: eventually, mythphone, several phones and both my phone lines... and a VOIP provider yet to be determined |
| 22:45 | mikegrb | :D |
| 22:45 | mikegrb | we've got three extentions |
| 22:45 | mikegrb | one is a multi handset cordless |
| 22:45 | Beirdo | and if I feel rich, a cellular fixed station :) |
| 22:46 | Delemas | Beirdo: ah it was the voip provider angle I was interested in... I was consider a similar plan... |
| 22:46 | Delemas | s/consider/considering/ |
| 22:46 | Beirdo | anyways, we are Sooo off-topic |
| 22:50 | Delemas | mmm |
| 22:51 | Delemas | sigh well I guess I'm going to have to floss this some more. All the plugins 'cept mythweb still don't build. |
| 22:51 | mikegrb | Delemas: I'm using nufone.net for inbound and voipjet for outbound |
| 22:54 | Delemas | mikegrb: I was hoping to get a did in 613 area code... |
| 22:54 | mikegrb | there was a cheap company I can't remember the name of, sixtel I think |
| 22:56 | Beirdo | yup |
| 22:56 | Beirdo | they are on my short list |
| 22:57 | Delemas | hmm not sixtel.com I take it... |
| 22:57 | Beirdo | one sec |
| 22:57 | Delemas | .net |
| 22:57 | Beirdo | www.iax.cc |
| 22:57 | Beirdo | that's how I found them |
| 22:59 | mikegrb | yes that's it |
| 23:00 | Delemas | wow! |
| 23:00 | Delemas | $1.49/mo for local did... |
| 23:01 | Delemas | This is going to kill the phone company.... |
| 23:01 | Beirdo | one can only hope |
| 23:07 | Delemas | 8o>>>>>>>>>> Fixed the rpms builds... |
| 23:09 | Delemas | In /usr/share/mythtv/build/settings.pro someone recently added a check which is broken when building as an rpm. If I comment out these three lines all is good: |
| 23:09 | Delemas | #!exists( config.mak ) { |
| 23:09 | Delemas | # error(Please run the configure script first) |
| 23:09 | Delemas | #} |
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