TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#mythtv:2005:01:12

---	Log	opened Wed Jan 12 00:00:01 2005
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00:12		KeyserLaptop \| linux devices has an article on a company teaming with transmeta to sell commercial mythtv boxes: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8988852470.html
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00:17	Beirdo	I wish them luck with zap2it
00:17		KeyserLaptop \| i wonder if they will have their own guide data service
00:17	Beirdo	not likely
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00:18	Beirdo	and apparently, it's based on MythTV 0.18
00:18	Beirdo	that article's obviously crap
00:18		KeyserLaptop \| huh. i thought mythtv was only at 0.16?
00:19		KeyserLaptop \| they are more up to date than the mythtv developers!
00:19		KeyserLaptop \| hehe. the story ended up on slashdot, as well
00:20		* KeyserLaptop goes to see if there are any knowledgeble comments
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03:42	KaZeR	brb
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12:29	\|QuaD-	hey, is anyone here?
12:30	\|QuaD-	i want to purchase a cheap tv tuner for my linux box, any suggestions?
12:30		* MajestiK suggests reading the topic, and moving the question to #mythtv-users
12:30	\|QuaD-	thanks
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13:43	Dibblah	OK. Looks like the behavior of the RT grabber has changed since the reorganisation. It no longer requires (or honors) the --days or offset.
13:43	Dibblah	Therefore, it runs 14 times, rather than once.
13:44	Dibblah	I'm looking at patching filldata to (basically) remove the customizations for the _rt grabber, since the old version no longer works at all.
13:45	Dibblah	And the new version is faster and supported, anyway.
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14:23	Cred	Hi
14:23	Cred	DonLKSAB, here?
14:30	DonLKSAB	Yes
14:33	Cred	yay
14:33	Cred	DonLKSAB, do you remember when you sent me an MAKEDEV file like 6 months ago or so?
14:33	Cred	DonLKSAB, I had an problem with /dev/video0 missing etc. under Slackware.
14:34	DonLKSAB	Yes
14:34	DonLKSAB	Do you need it again?
14:35	Cred	DonLKSAB, I'm afraid yes. I deleted it (stupid me) after the use. Now, since then I've changed distribution hopes for better but.. For some reason it's not working on any other distro like it should.
14:36	Cred	So, if you could send it again.
14:36	DonLKSAB	Sure let mi find it
14:36	DonLKSAB	me*
14:36	Cred	I tried MAKEDEV from.. humm, it was included with some driver package. It did create video devs for me but they didn't work.
14:38	DonLKSAB	Right
14:38	DonLKSAB	I sent it to myself :-)
14:39	DonLKSAB	Hmm
14:39	DonLKSAB	Does it work?
14:39	Cred	What?
14:39	DonLKSAB	Im trying to DCC you
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14:40	Cred	Oh, sorry. Didn't notice.
14:40	DonLKSAB	:-)
14:40	DonLKSAB	There you go
14:41	Cred	Thanks, now lets se...
14:41	Cred	see even
14:42	Cred	I will have to boot this thing, probably.
14:42	Cred	It did create bunch of devices but it's not working, yet.
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15:13	o_cee	SELECT title,starttime,endtime FROM program WHERE chanid=10 AND starttime>='2005-01-12T08:30:00' AND starttime<'2005-01-12T09:15:00';
15:13	o_cee	size: 0
15:14	o_cee	but in mysql
15:14	o_cee	1 row in set (0.00 sec)
15:14	o_cee	this is really driving me nuts
15:14	Baylink	Installing today's CVS appears to have nuked my mysql.txt, where old installs did not. Did I hork my own cleanup script, or did something change?
15:14	Beirdo	it should be working
15:14	o_cee	it _really_ should
15:15	Baylink	Where does the production file live on a working machine/
15:15	Baylink	?
15:15	o_cee	Baylink, it's generated when running now
15:15	Baylink	mythsetup will build it, then?
15:15	o_cee	yeah or frontend i think
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15:15	Baylink	I always forget to run that after an upgrade, which is likely bad,
15:16	o_cee	it shouldn't delete any existing installed mysql.txt's, just the one in your cvs
15:16	Baylink	I might have accidentally added it's directory to my cleanout script; where is it supposed to life?
15:16	Baylink	(live)
15:16	o_cee	if you're using your own cleanup scripts, guess who you should blame.
15:17	Baylink	I already took the damn blame, now could someone just tell me where it is? :-)
15:22	o_cee	where what is?
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15:31	Baylink	Hmmm... ran backend setup. still no mysql.txt, apparently.
15:32	Baylink	Backendsetup itself found the DBMS
15:33	Baylink	Excuse me: I should be elsewhere.
15:38	Dibblah	Arf. My first real patch and there's a thinko in the text. The patch is fine, so I'll leave what I really meant as an excercise to the reader :)
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16:15	zuralin	haha, blankdecks.com called me about all the gift certificates being sent to chris kennedy
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16:16	Beirdo	why would they be calling you?
16:18	o_cee	Beirdo, i cracked it
16:18	Beirdo	what was it after all that?
16:18	zuralin	because i sent him one i guess
16:18	o_cee	apparently the programs table was beeing cleared at another place, by another (old i think) function
16:19	o_cee	"all" != "one"
16:19	Beirdo	ahhh
16:19	o_cee	i dooont think it's supposed to be clearing it twice :P
16:19	Beirdo	so you were checking right after clearing?
16:19	Beirdo	that would do it
16:19	o_cee	yeah
16:20	o_cee	and it got filled right back so that's why it worked outside
16:20	o_cee	and that's why there where no dup errors
16:20	Beirdo	right :)
16:20	o_cee	:)
16:20	o_cee	cleaning up this mess now, debugstuff all over the place hehehe
16:21	o_cee	don't think you want to see my swedish cursing debug outputs :P
16:21	Beirdo	heheh
16:21	Beirdo	I have left those in before
16:21	Beirdo	actually got code FROM a customer commented with "What the fuck does this do?"
16:21	Beirdo	and it was their code
16:22	Beirdo	I left the comment in :)
16:22	o_cee	heheheh
16:22	zuralin	o_cee, yes but they were interested in "all" the ones being sent to him.. not just the "one"
16:22	o_cee	ah, hehehe
16:23	o_cee	wonder how many he got
16:23	Baylink_realw	\| Anyone built CVS today?
16:23	o_cee	for putting out 1000 versions based on trial and error
16:23	Beirdo	o_cee: well, it's hard to do it any other way with no documentation :)
16:24	o_cee	Beirdo, yeah that's one thing, but it's pretty clear he's no good drivers dev :P
16:24	Beirdo	heh
16:24	Beirdo	well, unless someone else steps up and does better, he's what we have
16:25	o_cee	wich only took a year or so..
16:25	o_cee	heh
16:25	o_cee	ditched the 350 tvout long time ago because of instability.. plus the upcoming opengl eyecandy :)
16:26	Beirdo	I won't be using opengl until I can figure out why my board won't behave with AGP support :)
16:26	o_cee	heh, get intel ;)
16:26	Beirdo	heh
16:26	Beirdo	no thanks
16:26	o_cee	i have to run this computer with vesa :/
16:27	Beirdo	GAH!
16:27	o_cee	yeah.. luckily it's fast enough so
16:27	o_cee	damn new gfx cards
16:27	Beirdo	which card?
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16:28	o_cee	6600GT
16:28	o_cee	6629 is supposed to support it, but it doesn't work good at all
16:28	Beirdo	ahh
16:28	o_cee	massive gfx errors
16:28	Beirdo	I'm running a 9600Pro
16:29		* o_cee is dancing around all over the channel now that daddy isn't watching :P
16:29	o_cee	sorry think i need to sleep
16:29	Beirdo	heh. it's not THAT late yet is it?
16:30		* o_cee is thinking about adding something like: "56 programs where updated" to the mythfilldatabase output
16:30	o_cee	nah, but i've got another exam tomorrow
16:33	Beirdo	exam first, then more code :)
16:33	o_cee	indeed
16:33	o_cee	seen thor lately?
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16:42	Beirdo	nope :(
16:42	mikegrb	I saw him today
16:42	mikegrb	though it was an actual person named thor and not the person who goes by thor on irc
16:43	Beirdo	hehe
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17:07	bender	hi there, would it be recommended to run mythtv just in order to in an easy way watch dvd/xvid/divx-movies on my tv (i have no tv-card)?
17:07		* Beirdo points the robot at the topic
17:08	bender	oops, sorry
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17:11	mikegrb	bender: since you are here, could you unbend some metal for me?
17:11	bender	bah :)
17:12	Beirdo	you'd have to feed him some beer, probably
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17:31	joseph	is it possible for the cvs repository to be broken, i can't get it to compile
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17:47	Anduin	joseph - yes
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18:04	Wildgoose	Dibblah: I did the _RT stuff. Although it's reading the data too often, what other problems are you actually seeing?
18:15	joseph	ok so should i just wait a day or so to see if it is fixed?
18:17	Anduin	joseph - or you could see if your problem was on the list, or take it over to -users
18:18	Anduin	joseph - or better still make a patch (-users and the list are good just to make sure someone else hasn't done so already)
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18:32	joseph	o i wish i knew C but i'm only 15
18:32	joseph	i hope to help the mythtv project once i do however
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19:02	Dibblah	Wildgoose: It takes 6 hours to fill...
19:03	Dibblah	There's been complaints over in -users.
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19:06	joseph	what does?
19:06	joseph	o sry
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20:59	mitcheloc	does anyone in here run mythtv on their xboxes?
21:00	Beirdo	why are you asking in the development channel?
21:01	mitcheloc	doh! (forgot)
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21:46	Omnic	heh... honestly, losses should be cut, and this channel should move to #mythtv-dev :>
21:47	Beirdo	that's Chutt's prerogative
21:47	Beirdo	I'd tend to agree
21:48	Omnic	1) yeah, I thought it would be
21:48	Anduin	hey, there is a bugzilla now, anything can happen
21:48	Omnic	and 2) yay, someone agree's :)
21:49	Beirdo	I think several people would agree, but it's not our channel :)
21:49	Omnic	indeed, and indeed :)
21:50	Beirdo	but yeah, there's a bugzilla, and I actually say Chutt refer someone to the mythtv.info wiki, so one never knows
21:50	Beirdo	saw rather
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---	Log	opened Wed Jan 12 22:11:27 2005
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