TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#mythtv:2004:12:07

---	Log	opened Tue Dec 07 00:00:57 2004
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02:10	BenB	hi. the graphical setup program crashes on me with simply "Illegal instruction" (after the xinerama msgs). I have to run it on a remote display (server has no monitor). Other QT program (qps) works fine.
02:11	BenB	any ideas?
02:12	BenB	it worked a few months ago.
02:13	BenB	is there any other way to configure capture cards and channels, apart from hand-editing the database?
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03:38	o_cee_	i teach you bigtime!
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03:52	BenB	o_cee_: that's my job
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09:45	o_cee_	yey thunderbird 1.0!
09:45	o_cee_	a day late hehe
09:46	kvandivo	do you feel your life is complete now?
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09:53	o_cee_	kvandivo: i'm hoping it'll fix some delete junk problems i'm seeing though
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13:55	Riff-Raff	is there some reason that OSDTypes cannot be removed from OSDSet or OSDSets from OSD ?
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14:01	Riff-Raff	locking maybe?
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14:36	MrIch	hello
14:37	MrIch	please look at this image and say me what is wrong with the tvout http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?t=163375
14:37	Riff-Raff	i cannot see it, must login to some forum
14:38	MrIch	ok I will give you another link, just wait
14:39	MrIch	http://ls001.no-ip.com/~phil/tvout.jpg
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14:42	Riff-Raff	nice colors
14:42	Riff-Raff	i've never seen anything like taht
14:43	Beirdo	and how is that a development issue? :)
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14:48	MrIch	has nobody an idea?
14:50	Beirdo	MrIch: even if we did, this isn't the right channel (see topic), but no idea
14:51	cmorgan	its a good question for #ivtv-dev
14:54	MrIch	no it is no ivtv problem
14:54	cmorgan	uh
14:54	cmorgan	so you can capture data from /dev/video0
14:54	cmorgan	and play it back?
14:56	MrIch	oh sorry, I thought to be in the user channel
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15:49	o_cee_	Chutt: those utf8's from hiro ok? looks fine to me, but i dunno about sched.patch
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15:57	emes	how can i generate a backtrace for a seg fault? mythfrontend is seg faulting if it tries to play fullscreen video, -v all doesn't show any errors
15:57	emes	using 0.16
15:57	stoffel	recompile myth for debugging and follow the debugging docs from www.mythtv.org
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15:58	emes	it is compiled with debug
15:59	stoffel	http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-20.html#ss20.2
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16:03	emes	ok, i'm running it un gdb, when it tries to play fullscreen video, it just stays on a black screen, and ctrl-c doesnt get out of it, how do i get back to gdb? i had to killall it
16:03	emes	s/un/in/
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16:06	emes	but, it was at: 0xb7d97b61 in get_avf_buffer_xvmc(AVCodecContext, AVFrame) (c=0x82c21c8,
16:06	emes	pic=0x8627790) at avformatdecoder.cpp:689 when it got the sigsegv
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16:06	emes	stoffel: does that mean anything to you?
16:07	Chutt	it means you enabled xvmc when you don't have a video card capable of doing it.
16:07	stoffel	same as chinese to me ;)
16:14	emes	Chutt: i cant find that option
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16:18	stoffel	emes: in settings.pro
16:19	Chutt	you specifically enabled it when you compiled things.
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16:23	emes	i got it, thx
16:23	emes	and gentoo compiled it, not me
16:24	Dibblah1_	Hmmm... I'm sure I remember seeing a bug in bugzilla, but I must have been imagining it. It looks like when Xine-ui exits, it leaves a non-existent window with focus. I didn't think that was possible...
16:24	Dibblah1_	Gentoo only does what you tell it.
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16:25	emes	Dibblah1_: its not a USE flag so i dont control it
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16:26	Dibblah1_	You building the release ebuild?
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16:26	emes	yeah
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16:29	Dibblah1_	Ewww... What's wrong with doing things the right way?
16:29	Dibblah1_	sed -i -e "s:OPTFLAGS=.*:OPTFLAGS=${CFLAGS}:g" config.mak
16:30	emes	eww?
16:30	Dibblah1_	Well, config.mak is autogenerated, isn't it?
16:31	emes	the ebuild does all the seds
16:31	Chutt	people that replace the cflags with their own (unless they have to for an epia board that doesn't do ppro) do not get support.
16:31	Dibblah1_	... Or at least should know how to turn it back to defaults.
16:31	Dibblah1_	However, this is in the official Gentoo ebuild.
16:32	Dibblah1_	And there's no easy way to turn it off.
16:32	Chutt	maybe i'll have to go smack the gentoo packager again
16:32	emes	well, everything is working now, so i'm happy
16:35	Dibblah1_	It's different from the last attempt...
16:35	Dibblah1_	local cpu="`get-flag march \|\| get-flag mcpu`"
16:35	Dibblah1_	if [ "${cpu}" ] ; then
16:35	Dibblah1_	sed -e "s:pentiumpro:${cpu}:g" -i "settings.pro" \|\| die
16:35	Dibblah1_	"sed failed"
16:35	Dibblah1_	fi
16:35	Dibblah1_	Nice error message, there.
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16:38	Dibblah1_	Exactly the same thing in the unofficial Myth CVS ebuild.
16:39	Chutt	see, that's just plain moronic
16:39	Chutt	ppro generally produces the best code, even for better cpus
16:39	Dibblah1_	It's the Gentoo Philosophy.
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16:40	Chutt	i've seen -march=athlon-xp produce 50% slower code than -march=pentiumpro on very math intensive stuff
16:40	Chutt	on an xp, of course
16:41	cmorgan	nevermind the massive waste of energy that is compiling everything from source
16:42	Dibblah	Well, the benchmark times for compiling a kernel were getting too short to be geeky. So it had to happen.
16:43	Dibblah	Personally, I prefer Gentoo to almost any other distro I've tried. They _all_ have far too much cruft in the 'bare' install.
16:44	Dibblah	, however.
16:44	Dibblah	That sentence ended too early.
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16:56	Beirdo	Chutt: I had a similar issue with someone trying to compile nuv2avi (which is very beta) and overrode my CFLAGS
16:57	Beirdo	I told them to put em back :)
16:57	Chutt	yup yup
16:57	Chutt	it's stupid.
16:58	Beirdo	"your code doesn't compile with -mcpu=blah"... like I care, use the options provided.
16:58	Dibblah	Simple. Remove it from settings.pro and hide it a little more :)
16:58	Dibblah	Or silently strip.
16:58	mikegrb	um debian has zero cruft in the bare install
16:58	Chutt	but there's a legitimate reason to change it
16:58	Chutt	if you've got a crappy cpu that doesn't support it =)
16:58	Dibblah	One reason.
16:59	Beirdo	well, yeah. Or you are compiling under OS X or something that needs some tweaking
16:59	Beirdo	in those cases, you do what you have to
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17:01	Dibblah	... Or move to autoconf ;)
17:03	Beirdo	I'm sure there are compelling reasons not to do that with myth
17:03	Beirdo	I intend to do that with nuv2avi, but it's a big undertaking, and I want the code behaving first
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17:16	o_cee_	Chutt: did you see hiros patches? the last one looked like something you need to look at, the other ones looked fine to me (utf8 stuff added).
17:17	Chutt	i haven't had a chance to look at it yet.
17:18	o_cee_	okay, just lemme know.
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18:13		Archangel-13 \| hello
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18:50	Dibblah	Ugh. There's 2 places in the code where RunProgramGuide is called. Both are handled differently. I'm trying to get the guide to _always_ respect 'use select to change the channel', but it's not as easy as it first looked. I can't see a good way to start TV with a selected channel, when it's not already instantiated...
18:51	Dibblah	Specifically, that setting only applies when watching livetv.
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18:53	Dibblah	SO is used to getting consistent results from the Guide from Sky - And didn't understand why it didn't work :(
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18:55	Fanfoue	hello
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19:31	orion	How can I find the device name for my ALSA mixer? ALSA:default and ALSA:ctl.default don't work
19:32	hadees	orion, look at the topic
19:32	orion	eep, sorry
19:32	hadees	orion, its okay just doin't make the same mistake twice
19:34		* gr8nash b* slaps orion
19:35	Beirdo	gr8nash: now be nice :)
19:36	hadees	if i wanted to add a device to conrtoll mythtv where would i inject the commands? do you think it would be similar to how internal lirc support is added?
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19:43	Jonny0stars	hi
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19:43	Jonny0stars	how do i set alsa to output my sound ?
19:43	Jonny0stars	i have no /dev/dsp device
19:44	Jonny0stars	can i pipe it trogh arts or xmms ?
19:44		* Jonny0stars reads channel header
19:45	Jonny0stars	woops
19:45	Jonny0stars	sorry !
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20:24	Chutt	hadees, yes
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20:57	hadees	Chutt, do you know where to look for the internal lirc stuff or should i just grep for it
21:07	Chutt	libs/libmyth/lirc*
21:07	Chutt	and a tiny bit in mythdialogs.cpp
21:08	Chutt	but, just grepping for lirc would find all of it :p
21:14	hadees	thx
21:15	Chutt	o_cee, if you see this, hirobumi's sched.patch looks ok, if you'd want to apply it.
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21:39	dopester	heh mr. fast codebase over proper design..
22:06	Chutt	i really don't know where that came from
22:09	Snow-Man	Me neither!
22:12	Chutt	snow-man, he's referencing this: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2004-December/028839.html
22:14	cmorgan	heh
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22:20	kvandivo	chutt: so i've been using this time stretch feature literally ALL THE TIME since it went in, and i've got a couple of things to run by you...
22:21	Snow-Man	Chutt: *smirk.
22:21		* mikegrb stretches kvandivo
22:21	kvandivo	1) i'd like to set a default timestretch that would apply to recordings.. so somewhere in the settings you would say that you want 1.1 to be the default..
22:22	kvandivo	and 2) once that is in and working, take it one step farther and allow you to set per-show timestretch values..
22:22	kvandivo	i find that i watch my documentaries at 1.25, but the normal 'evening shows' i only watch at 1.1
22:24	Anduin	I hope you get that in
22:25	Snow-Man	wtf is timestretch?
22:25	Anduin	pitch adjusted fast play
22:25	kvandivo	basically a percentage change in the speed of the playback
22:26	kvandivo	i play everything back at 110% speed
22:26	Snow-Man	And that actually works decently?
22:26	Anduin	1.3 is good for me (except music)
22:26	kvandivo	amazingly well
22:26	Snow-Man	That's fucking crazy. :)
22:26	kvandivo	it totally rocks
22:26	Anduin	It makes people talk as fast as I want them to.
22:26	Snow-Man	Alright, so, does Tivo have that? :)
22:26	kvandivo	:)
22:27	Snow-Man	Stupid people claiming MythTv is behind Tivo, yeesh.
22:27	mikegrb	puhwahaha
22:27	Anduin	Well... Chutt is a mean overlord...
22:27	mikegrb	sounds quite awesome
22:27	mikegrb	I need to use mythtv again but haven't since we moved
22:28	Snow-Man	Hey, mean overlords really are the only way to run an open source project. :)
22:28	Beirdo	hehe. A benevolent dictator?
22:28	mikegrb	and we got a free two tuner pvr here so that hasn't helped
22:28	Snow-Man	If you've read some of the posts Linus has made.. Well, he can be a pretty mean overlord sometimes. ;)
22:28	Chutt	kvandivo, sure, i'd apply that.
22:28	Chutt	kvandivo, _but_, i'd like someone to fix the live-tv catching up to real-time case
22:28	kvandivo	excellent.. i don't think it will take long.. i'll just have to find time to do it
22:29	kvandivo	agreed.. that will be an issue
22:29	Snow-Man	Man, I don't know what would happen if I got used to timestretch..
22:29	Snow-Man	I'd probably never be able to watch TV at regular speed again, it'd drive me nuts. :)
22:29	mikegrb	indeed
22:29	mikegrb	though being kvandivo would drive me nuts too
22:30	mikegrb	or a snowman in the summer
22:30	Snow-Man	hahaha
22:30	mikegrb	:p
22:32	Chutt	you really don't notice it that much
22:32	Chutt	except people move slightly faster
22:33	Snow-Man	That'd be awesome. :)
22:34	Chutt	kvandivo, my blackout cloth had a big (well, 3" or so) crease in it
22:34	Chutt	so i didn't get to stretch my screen tonight :(
22:45	kvandivo	we had left ours just hanging on the wall for a couple of weeks, so we got around that problem
22:46	Snow-Man	Stretch your screen?
22:46	kvandivo	for the projector
22:47	Snow-Man	ah, yes, ya'll are fuckers.
22:47	Snow-Man	mkay?
22:47	Snow-Man	:)
22:47	Chutt	kvandivo, this one looks to be un-removeable
22:48	Chutt	it's not just a wrinkle, it's a bigass ironed in crease :(
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22:55	mikegrb	Chutt: iron the face of the person who did it, that will help
22:55	mikegrb	Snow-Man: I agree
22:55	fishhead	opps forgot I was in this channel
22:55	fishhead	sorry
22:55	dopester	?
22:55	kvandivo	you guys ever have a case where someone says something, and you have absolutely no clue what it means?
22:55	fishhead	the paste I wouldn't make it to this channel
22:55	fishhead	I did a global message
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23:01	emes	can there be an option to disable xscreensaver when mythfrontend starts up? mplayer has one, so it shouldn't be very hard
23:02	Chutt	already exists
23:02	Beirdo	that was already answered in -users
23:02	Beirdo	Oh, is there a way to do that now?
23:02		* Beirdo takes notes
23:04	Chutt	there's been a way, just have to enable it
23:04	Beirdo	I must have completely missed that setting :)
23:04	Beirdo	Learned something new :)
23:05	emes	well, where is the setting?
23:05	Chutt	i dunno
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23:15	emes	does mythtv have a cli?
23:18		* Beirdo wonders what part of the topic is unclear to emes :)
23:21	emes	well, if there isn't a cli, i would suggest that one be created, which is a development-related thing :)
23:22	Snow-Man	Only if you're planning on writing it.
23:22	emes	so there isn't?
23:22	Snow-Man	Uhm, just leave, mkay?
23:22	emes	:\|
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23:29	Majestik	Yay, new ebuild for nuvexport in bugzilla
23:30	Majestik	hmm.. more people might care in -users... nevermind me
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