| --- | Log | opened Wed Mar 24 00:00:18 2004 |
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| 00:08 | thor | yay! dd zap2it patch |
| 00:12 | _rkulagow | yeah, i saw that too. i've got to update my perl-XML-writer before i can give it a try. |
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| 00:28 | thor | UIListTreeType::Redraw() ?? |
| 00:28 | thor | MoveLeft() ? |
| 00:29 | thor | trying to write a GoHome() method so that if you hide a menu and then pop it back up, you end up at the first top child |
| 00:31 | thor | hmm, clearLevel |
| 00:32 | _rkulagow | huh. and i thought that when adult swim was doing the "flying shark vs. flying crocodile" promos they were making shit up. apparently not: |
| 00:32 | _rkulagow | <title>Animal Face-Off</title> |
| 00:32 | _rkulagow | <sub-title>Saltwater Croc vs. Great White Shark</sub-title> |
| 00:32 | _rkulagow | <desc>The largest reptile on the planet can meet the world's largest predatory shark off the shores of Australia.</desc> |
| 00:32 | thor | heh, that coming out of dd zap2it ? |
| 00:32 | _rkulagow | yep |
| 00:32 | thor | cool |
| 00:33 | _rkulagow | i happened to hit ctrl-c because i'm running manually and forgot to send it to a file. |
| 00:33 | _rkulagow | also, i discovered that i'm in the next building from the zap2it guys, so i've invited them to lunch. small world. |
| 00:35 | Chutt | that animal face-off show was pretty bad |
| 00:35 | Chutt | flying shark vs flying crocodile is pretty funny, though |
| 00:36 | _rkulagow | i can't believe how many of the people in that focus group seem to be taking them seriously. |
| 00:36 | Chutt | 'they will battle in a battle that can have no winner! WHO WILL WIN??' |
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| 00:37 | _rkulagow | oh-no! i've already missed 35 minutes of croc vs. shark! |
| 00:40 | thor | heh, I mangled moveLeft(), that was my problem |
| 00:40 | thor | dam cut 'n paste |
| 00:40 | _rkulagow | so, anybody want me to mention anything to the zap2it folks? |
| 00:40 | _rkulagow | other than, "keep it free"? |
| 00:40 | Chutt | easier setup would be nice |
| 00:40 | _rkulagow | (or cheap, which is also fine by me) |
| 00:40 | Chutt | and i for one wouldn't mind paying for it |
| 00:41 | _rkulagow | chutt: are you talking about the questionaire, the lineup selection or something else? |
| 00:41 | thor | Hire Mythical Chutt Inc., to create a listings distribution interface to every device with an IP address on plant earth |
| 00:41 | Chutt | all of it, i dunno |
| 00:42 | Chutt | i'm just having a hard time envisioning how the setup is going to integrate |
| 00:42 | Chutt | the current _na setup system works really well |
| 00:42 | _rkulagow | true, you do need to use their web service for initial setup. |
| 00:43 | Chutt | ah well |
| 00:43 | Chutt | i need to get to bed, electrician guy's coming at 8:30 tomorrow |
| 00:44 | thor | hopefully some new mfe stuff when you wake up |
| 01:21 | _rkulagow | if i didn't know better, i'd say ray o is making fun of someone elses shitty grammar. |
| 01:24 | thor | heh |
| 01:24 | thor | I think yore right |
| 01:28 | josephk | Questions will be asked...AND DESTROYED...BY ANSWERS!!!!! |
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| 12:20 | bitbyte | anyone determine if tht OEM pvr250 on z-buy is compatible with Myth or ivtv? |
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| 12:56 | GrifGone | (:#mythtv) I know this is not a support channel, so I won't ask for a solution. I only want to know if it is currently possible to use MythTV with native ALSA and a 2.6 kernel without having the OSS compatibility stuff in the kernel. |
| 12:58 | dja | (:#mythtv) GrifGone: you're still asking a support question -- I'd recommend you ask that over in #mythtv-users |
| 12:58 | GrifGone | (:#mythtv) I've already done that |
| 12:58 | GrifGone | (:#mythtv) but nobody knows if mythtv can do that |
| 12:59 | GrifGone | (:#mythtv) at least, they don't tell me if they do =] |
| 12:59 | Chutt | yes, you can |
| 12:59 | GrifGone | ah, k |
| 12:59 | Chutt | but there's not many reasons to use the oss emulation |
| 13:00 | Chutt | since it works well. |
| 13:00 | GrifGone | to _not_ use oss emu you mean |
| 13:00 | dja | Chutt: did you get my bt for the mythmusic problem? |
| 13:00 | Chutt | right |
| 13:00 | Chutt | dja, yeah, but you were missing the trace of the thread that acutally crashed |
| 13:00 | Chutt | so i haven't replied yet |
| 13:00 | Chutt | the ????? parts |
| 13:01 | dja | shoot, sorry |
| 13:01 | GrifGone | Strange thing is that mplayer works with native alsa and Myth opens the device without errors... I just can't hear anything |
| 13:01 | Chutt | not your fault |
| 13:01 | Chutt | gdb's =) |
| 13:01 | GrifGone | not sure how to debug it further |
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| 13:01 | Chutt | there's just not much i can do with it unless i have that information |
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| 14:56 | bitbyte | anyone determine if tht OEM pvr250 on z-buy is compatible with Myth or ivtv? the WinTV-PVR-250MCE |
| 15:00 | GreyFoxx | Can someone confirm for me whether livetv is streamed to a frontend via the tcp port 6543 connection to the backend or if it's via an nfs mounted directory? I've got 3 frontends that don't mount anything that would include the ringbuffer written by the backend, yet there is a guy on the mailing list saying that the ringbuffer is read via nfs. Am I just baked? |
| 15:00 | GreyFoxx | I'd check myself if I wasn't at work :) |
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| 15:01 | Griffon26 | did anyone build in ALSA input already? |
| 15:03 | mdz | Chutt: what do you do when the libmythtv ABI changes? is updating the rev in libmyth sufficient? |
| 15:04 | Chutt | yup |
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| 15:21 | mdz | where is there a list of the allowable strings for QKeySequence? I don't see one in the docs |
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| 16:02 | brtb | GreyFoxx - afaik it's a tcp stream, i never setup anything nfs related and i have remote frontends that work fine |
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| 16:07 | GreyFoxx | brtb: Me either, which is why I was confused :) |
| 16:12 | brtb | there are a lot of people that use nfs for backend storage, saw a few using it for mythmusic/mythvideo (both of which need raw file access on the frontend) |
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| 16:38 | Griffon26 | can you guys as developers tell me if alsa capture is supported? |
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| 17:57 | mdz | Griffon26: you have been asking that at least twice a day. please stop. |
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| 18:13 | decoy | Onboard Intel CSA Gigabit LAN... anybody knows if that's supported by gentoo ? |
| 18:13 | decoy | when booting from my livecd i have no nic |
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| 20:31 | dopester | Are there any know issues with the pchdtv card and with current cvs? |
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| 20:59 | Chutt | thor, you around? |
| 20:59 | mikegrb | nope |
| 20:59 | Chutt | heh |
| 20:59 | mikegrb | I gave him the night off and a basket of muffins |
| 20:59 | Chutt | ah, ok |
| 20:59 | mikegrb | would you like a muffin? |
| 20:59 | Chutt | blueberry? |
| 20:59 | Chutt | no thanks |
| 20:59 | Chutt | too much chinese takeout earlier |
| 20:59 | mikegrb | some blueberry, mainly shnazleberry |
| 20:59 | mikegrb | ahh |
| 21:00 | Chutt | the 'family dinner for 2' could probably feed 6, easily |
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| 21:06 | -!- | Irssi: #mythtv: Total of 56 nicks 0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 56 normal |
| 21:06 | -!- | Irssi: Channel: Join to #mythtv was synced in 19 secs |
| 21:06 | Chutt | not really |
| 21:11 | dopester | whos working with the dvb part of the code? |
| 21:11 | Chutt | nobody, really |
| 21:12 | dopester | yeah i screwed around trying to get my dvbs card to work for a few days until i checked the code and realized the lnb settings are hard coded right now (with a comment about TODO: static LNB settings) :) |
| 21:12 | Chutt | heh |
| 21:14 | mikegrb | grrr |
| 21:14 | mikegrb | abovenet seemed to have broken |
| 21:15 | mikegrb | I didn't get a trace route thought my cable modem was broken but another guy did |
| 21:18 | _rkulagow | huh. the new scheduler might be better at scheduling, but it's killing my P3/733. i'm at 95% CPU, 282MB mem after starting up. it just took 6 minutes from the time the started to it kicking off a recording. |
| 21:18 | Chutt | really? |
| 21:18 | Chutt | heh |
| 21:18 | Chutt | mdz's stuff should help with that |
| 21:19 | dopester | how can i check on if anyone is working on the dvb-s stuff? if not i may start making the diseqc and lnb settings stuff work.. |
| 21:19 | _rkulagow | i sure hope so. |
| 21:20 | Chutt | dopester, the guy that was working on it's said he's not going to anymore |
| 21:20 | _rkulagow | dopester: just assume no one is working on it and go for it. |
| 21:21 | josephk | make it dope |
| 21:21 | dopester | ok fair enough |
| 21:22 | josephk | who has a pundit, and do you like it... |
| 21:23 | josephk | ok I'll assume no one, and they suck |
| 21:23 | josephk | hehe |
| 21:28 | _rkulagow | josephk: it's just a question that's been asked so many times, maybe no one wants to answer it? (i do, and i like it fine. check the archives.) |
| 21:29 | josephk | I'm not going to buy it...although I was thinking about it |
| 21:29 | josephk | too easy...myth shouldn't be easy |
| 21:29 | josephk | lol |
| 21:30 | josephk | just saw a sale on newegg is all |
| 21:31 | Chutt | pundit's on sale? |
| 21:31 | josephk | not cheap enough |
| 21:31 | josephk | "sale" |
| 21:31 | Chutt | ah |
| 21:32 | Chutt | still 'round $170 |
| 21:32 | Chutt | i want the black pundit they have in japan |
| 21:32 | josephk | 169.9999999 |
| 21:32 | Chutt | http://www.devicehackers.com/openpvs/index.php |
| 21:33 | josephk | ooooo |
| 21:33 | josephk | ahhh |
| 21:33 | josephk | hehe |
| 21:34 | | * josephk grabs can of spray paint |
| 21:34 | josephk | high gloss or matte? |
| 21:34 | Chutt | heh |
| 21:36 | josephk | it seems like everyone thinks their mythtv setup is interesting enough for an "article" |
| 21:36 | dopester | man i was almost done with my mythtv article too.. |
| 21:36 | dopester | :) |
| 21:36 | josephk | me too! |
| 21:36 | josephk | :) |
| 21:37 | dopester | mine has a dvb card in it.. hehe how amazing.. |
| 21:37 | dopester | a 4 page publication now |
| 21:37 | josephk | mine has streamers to make it record faster |
| 21:38 | josephk | and gold leaf! |
| 21:40 | dopester | who was the guy working on the dvb stuff? |
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| 21:52 | thor | <Chutt> thor, you around? |
| 21:52 | thor | yup |
| 21:52 | thor | but I'm about to be gone for 4 days |
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| 21:52 | mdz | _rkulagow: 6 minutes sounds ridiculous |
| 21:52 | mdz | _rkulagow: is it CPU bound or I/O bound? mythtv or mysql? |
| 21:54 | Chutt | guess who emailed? |
| 21:54 | thor | the ati guy ? |
| 21:54 | Chutt | naw |
| 21:54 | thor | uhm |
| 21:54 | Chutt | employment related |
| 21:54 | thor | hmmmm |
| 21:54 | thor | hauppauge ? |
| 21:54 | Chutt | yeah |
| 21:55 | mikegrb | spiffy |
| 21:55 | thor | "we won't to hire you as a grunt" or "lets go clean up this market together" ? |
| 21:55 | Chutt | and it sounded as if they'd consider telecommuting |
| 21:55 | thor | want |
| 21:55 | thor | bah |
| 21:55 | Chutt | mentioned the mvp |
| 21:55 | thor | don't pack and IRC at the same time |
| 21:55 | Chutt | and a windows version |
| 21:55 | Chutt | heh |
| 21:55 | thor | heh |
| 21:55 | thor | desktop version |
| 21:56 | thor | ? |
| 21:56 | Chutt | where are you going for 4 days? |
| 21:56 | thor | Montreal/skiing |
| 21:56 | Chutt | ah, fun |
| 21:56 | thor | yeah, not work |
| 21:56 | Chutt | fun's good =) |
| 21:56 | thor | especially with ten friends from high school :-) |
| 21:56 | thor | and no wives or kiddies |
| 21:57 | Chutt | heh |
| 21:57 | thor | big time trouble |
| 21:58 | thor | I've got a bunch of 1/2 finished things for mfe/music playback |
| 21:58 | thor | but it will have to wait to early next week |
| 21:58 | Chutt | yeah, that's cool |
| 21:58 | thor | was the hauppauge thing exploratory, or did they have some firm ideas ? |
| 21:59 | Chutt | exploratory introductory email |
| 21:59 | thor | right |
| 21:59 | josephk | a friend bought the mvp |
| 21:59 | josephk | loves it |
| 21:59 | josephk | except for the horrible render times in menus...lol |
| 22:00 | thor | well, I'd urge you to try and make it sound more like a jv between hauppauge and Chutt Inc. rather than a straight salary thing |
| 22:00 | Chutt | heh |
| 22:00 | thor | would be awful to see hauppauge walk away with IP for windows/desktop stuff |
| 22:00 | thor | but, whatever pays the bills :-) |
| 22:01 | Chutt | still gotta stay GPLd |
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| 22:01 | Chutt | since i can't do anything about that =) |
| 22:01 | thor | right |
| 22:01 | thor | but new desktop client can talk the protocol(s), interop, and be property of Hauppauge |
| 22:02 | Chutt | eh |
| 22:02 | Chutt | doubt it |
| 22:02 | Chutt | we'll see |
| 22:02 | thor | yup |
| 22:02 | Chutt | need to talk with em, first |
| 22:03 | thor | nice for you if it was just a straight, we send you salary, you make better GPL code, we sell more stuff |
| 22:04 | thor | but better still if it lead to we and Chutt inc sell amazing products, you can sell amazing products too if you hire Chutt Inc |
| 22:07 | Chutt | if i could get some guaranteed income for a few years that way, maybe |
| 22:07 | Chutt | i dunno, but i kinda just want something that's going to be stable for the forseeable future |
| 22:07 | thor | heh |
| 22:07 | thor | I know |
| 22:07 | Chutt | benefits and a retirement plan would be nice, too |
| 22:08 | thor | yup |
| 22:08 | thor | just saying don't close out the possibility at the outset |
| 22:09 | Chutt | well, i don't know if they're even talking about a permanent position yet |
| 22:09 | Chutt | it really was just a 3 sentence email :p |
| 22:11 | josephk | post to site |
| 22:11 | josephk | to site with it |
| 22:11 | josephk | ;) |
| 22:11 | Chutt | naw |
| 22:12 | josephk | blog blog...lol |
| 22:12 | Chutt | it's really only just interesting in that it's a non-shady company that is interested in funding myth, sorta |
| 22:12 | josephk | they're right near me too |
| 22:13 | josephk | only between 50 and 300 miles |
| 22:13 | Chutt | heh |
| 22:13 | Chutt | that counts as 'right near'? |
| 22:13 | thor | myth solves a _lot_ of problems for hw makers |
| 22:13 | josephk | on dea...I mean long island |
| 22:13 | thor | they get to walk around the whole DRM thing entirely |
| 22:13 | thor | which is _very_ useful |
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| 22:14 | thor | a hw maker with open source software is just about the only foreseable way to sell a commercial box that can rip dvd's, 'fer example |
| 22:15 | thor | which is incredibly useful for the consumer |
| 22:16 | josephk | in a fight where there can be no winners, who will win... et tu thor, et tu |
| 22:17 | thor | mens sana in corpore sano! |
| 22:18 | _rkulagow | mdz: it's a combination. first, mysql seems to be eating up the CPU, then mythbackend. |
| 22:19 | _rkulagow | and it's right after startup, so there's nothing else going on yet other than the scheduler running. |
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| 22:22 | _rkulagow | i'm recompiling now to make sure i've got the latest CVS, then i'll see what's happening. |
| 22:23 | _rkulagow | lunch with the tms guys on tuesday. |
| 22:23 | Chutt | cool |
| 22:24 | _rkulagow | bbl. |
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| 22:34 | _rkulagow | crap. mythbackend is a runaway. 478MB virt and climbing. |
| 22:34 | Chutt | hah |
| 22:34 | Chutt | not good, huh |
| 22:34 | _rkulagow | nope. |
| 22:34 | kvandivo | "I don't know how much more she can take, cap'n", kvandivo says in his best Scotty voice |
| 22:36 | _rkulagow | i wonder if it's mythcommflag that's doing it. |
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| 23:11 | Chutt | aw, crap |
| 23:11 | Chutt | main myth box is dead |
| 23:11 | mikegrb | please to be grabbing a backtrace and send it to the dev list |
| 23:13 | Chutt | heh |
| 23:13 | Chutt | funny man |
| 23:14 | kvandivo | too bad we all forgot to laugh, mikegrb. |
| 23:14 | mikegrb | :< |
| 23:14 | mikegrb | I thought you were my buddy kvandivo |
| 23:15 | kvandivo | i am, but some opportunities are too golden to pass up |
| 23:15 | mikegrb | :< |
| 23:16 | mikegrb | kirby is part of a regional hospital network |
| 23:17 | kvandivo | /me happily munches on an ice cream bar and ignores mikegrb. |
| 23:17 | | * mikegrb notices kvandivo needs to go to irc school :D |
| 23:17 | kvandivo | you don't already know that? |
| 23:18 | mikegrb | well you make a pretty good show in #otherchannel |
| 23:19 | kvandivo | oh, i can definitely talk the talk |
| 23:20 | mikegrb | just can't walk the walk, I gotcha |
| 23:27 | Chutt | yay |
| 23:28 | Chutt | fixed it |
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| 23:29 | | * mikegrb adds a gold star next to Chutt |
| 23:29 | Chutt | bios thought the cpu changed and wanted the changes confirmed |
| 23:30 | mikegrb | ahh |
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| 23:45 | josephk | I wonder what the boot time is on that australian myth implementation |
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