| --- | Log | opened Fri Mar 19 00:00:02 2004 |
| 00:08 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: you got my mail? |
| 00:09 | o_cee | right that wasn't the same chris |
| 00:09 | mdz_ | Chutt: what does fix_end_times actually do as far as the database? |
| 00:09 | o_cee | off to get breakfast.. btw chutt that humming is probably your cpu fan that's temperature-driven |
| 00:09 | mdz_ | I get the distinct feeling that it could be collapsed into one query |
| 00:12 | mdz_ | but I'm not entirely convinced I understand it correctly |
| 00:13 | Chutt | set's the end time of any programs that are missing an end time to the start time of the next program on the channel |
| 00:13 | mdz_ | ah |
| 00:14 | mdz_ | mysql supports joins on UPDATE |
| 00:14 | mdz_ | so I think it should be possible |
| 00:16 | mdz_ | so it iterates over all programs with an endtime of 0 |
| 00:16 | mdz_ | grabs the first program for that day (to check if it's a program starting at midnight?) |
| 00:17 | mdz_ | and if the two have the same endtime |
| 00:18 | mdz_ | ...loses me |
| 00:18 | mdz_ | er, s/have/do not have/ |
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| 00:19 | mdz_ | it does set starttime=foo, endtime=bar WHERE chanid=c AND starttime=foo |
| 00:19 | mdz_ | I guess that matches both the latter and the former, but is a no-op for the former |
| 00:20 | mdz_ | either it can be implemented as a single query, or it can be implemented better because with time/date separate, endtime can be NULL |
| 00:26 | Chutt | main reason for it is that any programs that cross over midnight with tv_grab_na don't have a starttime/date |
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| 00:28 | mdz_ | start? or end? |
| 00:29 | Chutt | err, end |
| 00:29 | Chutt | heh |
| 00:29 | Chutt | sorry |
| 00:32 | Chutt | thor, hey |
| 00:32 | thor | yup |
| 00:32 | Chutt | do you happen to remember the qlistview building code? |
| 00:32 | thor | heh |
| 00:33 | thor | there's qlistview building code ? |
| 00:33 | Chutt | well, for the selection screen |
| 00:33 | thor | putYourselfOnTheListView() |
| 00:33 | thor | that ? |
| 00:33 | Chutt | yeah |
| 00:34 | thor | not really, but I'm happy to look at it and try and recall what I was thinking ... |
| 00:34 | Chutt | well |
| 00:34 | Chutt | the 'insert after this item' constructor |
| 00:34 | thor | one sec |
| 00:34 | Chutt | it's used in a couple places, but i was just wondering if i could just insert at the end |
| 00:34 | Chutt | instead |
| 00:35 | Chutt | since inserting at arbitrary positions is going to be costly with the way generictree is setup |
| 00:36 | mdz_ | heh |
| 00:36 | Chutt | well |
| 00:36 | thor | I have no quick answer |
| 00:36 | mdz_ | at the end of the day, I can't tell whether there are more or fewer string<->date/time conversions |
| 00:36 | thor | ... hmm ... |
| 00:36 | mdz_ | had to add a bunch and remove a bunch |
| 00:36 | Chutt | it'll only be costly if all i have is a pointer |
| 00:36 | Chutt | since i'll have to find the pointer |
| 00:36 | Chutt | then insert |
| 00:37 | thor | GenericTree should come with a Map |
| 00:37 | Chutt | actually |
| 00:38 | Chutt | it looks like you're pretty much always appending to the end |
| 00:38 | Chutt | and just using the 'append after' with that |
| 00:38 | thor | yeah, I think so |
| 00:38 | thor | I know I got horribly confused by the fact that things kept going on in reverse order |
| 00:38 | Chutt | heh |
| 00:38 | Chutt | well |
| 00:38 | Chutt | we'll try it without the 'insert at arbitrary point' for now |
| 00:38 | thor | so I may have just been being pedantic |
| 00:39 | Chutt | but i'm going to think about an alternative implementation for generictree |
| 00:39 | Chutt | QPtrList is just, well, limited |
| 00:39 | thor | yup |
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| 00:41 | thor | But if the entire tree had a Dictionary/Map you could get from any node to info about any other node lickity split |
| 00:41 | Chutt | lotta ram |
| 00:42 | thor | (but then I was already well beyond my limited expertise on GenericTree itself, so _nobody_ should listen to me) |
| 00:43 | thor | AllMusic::putYourselfOnTheListView() |
| 00:43 | thor | error message at the end |
| 00:43 | thor | hee hee |
| 00:47 | Chutt | heh |
| 00:57 | mdz_ | well damn, it compiles |
| 00:58 | mdz_ | I'll just go ahead and commit it and see what breaks, ok? ;-) |
| 00:58 | Chutt | heh |
| 00:58 | mdz_ | 17 files changed, 626 insertions(+), 531 deletions(-) |
| 00:58 | Chutt | uh |
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| 01:00 | mdz_ | I don't suppose there's any way to get mythepg to talk to a locaal database rather than a backend, like it used to |
| 01:00 | mdz_ | that'd be a good smoke test |
| 01:01 | Chutt | hrm |
| 01:01 | Chutt | not easily |
| 01:02 | thor | somebody mail mdz a bt card ... |
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| 01:03 | Chutt | a bt card? |
| 01:03 | thor | isn't the problem here that he doesn't have a capture card ? |
| 01:04 | mdz_ | I have one |
| 01:04 | mdz_ | but it's in almost constant use |
| 01:04 | thor | heh |
| 01:04 | mdz_ | a victim of its own success |
| 01:05 | Chutt | well, treecheckitem compiles |
| 01:05 | Chutt | now for the rest |
| 01:05 | thor | cool |
| 01:05 | mdz_ | the best part of this is that I have no idea if any of the SQL is even syntactically valid |
| 01:05 | mdz_ | except for the db conversion, which I tested with cut and paste |
| 01:06 | mdz_ | there could be so many bugs lurking |
| 01:06 | Chutt | all good fun |
| 01:06 | Chutt | post it to the list :p |
| 01:06 | thor | select something, like ya know, that matches something else WHERE you feel like |
| 01:06 | mdz_ | it's ok, though, because Chutt volunteered to help with the testing :-) |
| 01:06 | Chutt | yeah |
| 01:06 | Chutt | my dev box doesn't ever record anything |
| 01:06 | Chutt | except when i'm testing |
| 01:07 | thor | mine has one 4 minute recording from about 8 months ago |
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| 01:08 | mdz_ | sent |
| 01:08 | mdz_ | this ended up touching way more code than I anticipated |
| 01:09 | _rkulagow | yay! a distro flamefest on -users. |
| 01:09 | mdz_ | probably because in order to do it sanely, I converted a bunch of stuff from QStrings to QDateTimes |
| 01:09 | Chutt | right |
| 01:09 | Chutt | rkulagow, this is why -users is so much fun |
| 01:09 | Chutt | yay, metadata.cpp compiled |
| 01:09 | thor | wow |
| 01:10 | thor | _rkulagow, at least it's not another thread about lirc |
| 01:11 | _rkulagow | yeah, that's true. interesting about the australian "hce" box or whatever it's called. that makes at least two commercial products, the italian one and the ozzie. |
| 01:12 | Chutt | the australian people emailed me |
| 01:12 | Chutt | sent jpgs of the story |
| 01:12 | thor | and probably a whole street of vendors in Shang Hai |
| 01:13 | thor | "australin people" == D1 ? |
| 01:13 | Chutt | yeah |
| 01:13 | thor | cool |
| 01:13 | Chutt | they don't have a link to mythtv on their website |
| 01:13 | Chutt | or otherwise mention it |
| 01:13 | _rkulagow | mebbe they _are_ lurking on users. |
| 01:14 | Chutt | because they don't want to 'confuse their users' |
| 01:14 | thor | well, they certainly don't want half clueless people running a borked CVS and then sending them support questions :-) |
| 01:15 | Chutt | right |
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| 01:15 | Chutt | he didn't explain why they've neglected to send any patches up to me |
| 01:15 | _rkulagow | probably because they're scared of you. |
| 01:15 | Chutt | or why the magazine article says it's a 'proprietary interface' |
| 01:16 | thor | heh, well, press never gets anything right |
| 01:16 | thor | (I was _not_ late) |
| 01:16 | Chutt | right, but why would they say it was a proprietary interface? |
| 01:16 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:16 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:16 | Chutt | no generictree::removeChild |
| 01:17 | thor | some reporter who thinks "proprietary" means not Microsoft standard HTPC |
| 01:17 | thor | have never had to prune one ... |
| 01:17 | Chutt | right |
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| 01:26 | mdz_ | well great |
| 01:26 | mdz_ | my post was moderated because the attachment was too large |
| 01:26 | mdz_ | should I resend or are you going to approve it? |
| 01:27 | Chutt | can you gzip it? |
| 01:27 | mdz_ | yes |
| 01:27 | mdz_ | well, not sure, but I'll try :-P |
| 01:27 | Chutt | if the gzipped version is still too big, i'll approve it |
| 01:27 | mdz_ | it won't be |
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| 01:28 | mdz_ | it was only 92k |
| 01:28 | thor | ugh, stupid mdnsd .... time for a break |
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| 01:37 | narowmind | wasup. anyone know that status of firewire capture ? |
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| 10:37 | jams | /msg NickServ IDENTIFY nopassword |
| 10:38 | jams | oops time to change my password |
| 10:48 | Itisme | :) |
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| 11:17 | Chutt | the amount of disinformation in the 'new pvr250' thread is amazing |
| 11:18 | bitbyte | hehe |
| 11:18 | bitbyte | and you wonder why i ask some of my questions to you guys... I like authoritative information. not some schmucks version of how he thinks stuff works |
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| 11:32 | thor | I hear Chutt is raising money on the capital markets to do a leveraged buyout of Hauppauge |
| 11:33 | Chutt | heh |
| 11:36 | bitbyte | yay |
| 11:36 | bitbyte | you go chutt |
| 11:36 | bitbyte | while yer at it buy pcHDTV and make em put a decoder chip on that thing |
| 11:36 | bitbyte | :) |
| 11:37 | bitbyte | better yet, buy myHDTV and release linux drivers |
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| 12:57 | GreyFoxx | 0 |
| 12:57 | GreyFoxx | oops |
| 13:19 | Chutt | heh, zoran |
| 13:21 | Chutt | thor, so, i got the tree displaying |
| 13:21 | Chutt | mostly correctly, though it's upside down |
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| 13:44 | thor | heh |
| 13:44 | thor | that was driving me crazy |
| 13:45 | thor | and I distinctly remember trying to put things on the list view in a reverse order, and having it still come out all fubared |
| 13:45 | thor | which is probably why all the InsertAfter()'s |
| 13:52 | Chutt | yeah |
| 13:53 | Chutt | i'll figure it out |
| 13:53 | Chutt | i'm speeding up the uilistbtntype right now, though |
| 13:53 | Chutt | since it was scrolling slowly |
| 13:53 | Chutt | and i figure it's because it's iterating through the list too much |
| 13:55 | thor | the OSD one or the regular one ? |
| 13:56 | thor | the regular one did not have a lot going on inside it last I checked |
| 13:56 | Chutt | the regular one |
| 13:56 | Chutt | well, it's a list internally |
| 13:56 | Chutt | it's doing a lot of find() and at()s |
| 13:57 | Chutt | which are slow with larger lists |
| 13:57 | Chutt | generictree's the same, in some places |
| 13:58 | thor | heh |
| 13:58 | thor | wonder which doofus is responsible for that ? |
| 13:59 | Chutt | heh |
| 13:59 | Chutt | it's really something you have to know beforehand |
| 14:04 | Chutt | heh |
| 14:04 | Chutt | i misspelled position 4 times in this file |
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| 14:18 | Chutt | hrmph |
| 14:19 | Chutt | i apparently can't have QPtrListIterators as straight members of a class |
| 14:20 | Chutt | bah |
| 14:20 | Chutt | i don't want to have to make these pointers |
| 14:29 | _rkulagow | hauppauge already has a linux based product (the MVP) and they're considering a mythtv product as well? am i getting the gist of those messages in -users correct? |
| 14:30 | _rkulagow | or is it more shooting off the mouth stuff? |
| 14:32 | _rkulagow | i can't see hauppauge wanting to get into that business. |
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| 14:34 | Chutt | that's people assuming stuff |
| 14:34 | Chutt | axel thimm is/was demoing mythtv at the hauppauge booth at cebit, is all |
| 14:34 | _rkulagow | is it because of the presentation axel said he was going to do in the hauppuage booth? |
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| 14:34 | _rkulagow | agh, i should learn how to touch type so i'm not looking at the keyboard. |
| 14:35 | thor | if you look up SEC filings, it seems that "Chutt Incorporated" has been purchasing large blocks of Hauppauge shares |
| 14:35 | _rkulagow | feh. too old for that. |
| 14:35 | _rkulagow | all your shares are belong to us. |
| 14:35 | thor | it's a total Gordon Gecko play, snap 'em up, rip out the value, and cut them into little pieces |
| 14:36 | _rkulagow | hopefully the value is more than the office furniture. |
| 14:37 | thor | and don't be operating under the illusion that Axel is just a little fish .... I heard he almost single handedly forced the British Pound to withdraw from European exchange rate mechanism |
| 14:37 | _rkulagow | ok, i'm going to start selling mythtv boxes just so that all the people that are jealous that they didn't think of it first can direct their anger at someone. |
| 14:37 | Chutt | i've had at least one or two a day since i posted my resume |
| 14:37 | Chutt | 'hey, why don't you sell boxes?' |
| 14:38 | kvandivo | do people just not think? |
| 14:38 | thor | I'm going to just start selling the logo |
| 14:38 | Chutt | apparently not |
| 14:38 | _rkulagow | i'd start thinking hard about selling boxes if 2 things happened: 1) ivtv gets better at recovering from the firmware problems and 2) zap2it launches DD. |
| 14:39 | Chutt | since trolltech didn't make an empty constructor for QPtrListIterators |
| 14:39 | Chutt | rkluagow, they launched it |
| 14:39 | Chutt | that survey is your subscription fee |
| 14:39 | _rkulagow | and then i'd probably just realize that i'm drinking again. |
| 14:39 | _rkulagow | anyone using bob eden's grabber yet? |
| 14:40 | Chutt | not i |
| 14:40 | _rkulagow | i'm in the same position as mdz; devel box is the family box, and if i break that i'm in trouble. |
| 14:41 | _rkulagow | good news is that i'm working a contract and they're letting me use a laptop, so i can write docs while in transit. that's about 1.5 hours a day. |
| 14:41 | _rkulagow | also, i never got a followup from o'reilley, so no mac for you, thor. |
| 14:43 | thor | bah |
| 14:43 | thor | how about if I buy a few mythtv boxes from you and then act jealous ? |
| 14:44 | _rkulagow | also, another tivo article on /., so i'm sure there's a mythtv mention in there somewhere. |
| 14:44 | _rkulagow | thor: sure, if that's what you'd like. you want a RAID-5 monster backend with 4 PVR-250's and a few lightweight diskless frontends? |
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| 14:49 | Chutt | blah blah blah |
| 14:49 | _rkulagow | us (me) in here chattering, or something else? |
| 14:50 | Chutt | the qptrlist class is annoying me |
| 14:50 | Chutt | is all |
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| 15:36 | Chutt | hrmph |
| 15:36 | Chutt | can't figure out why this is dying |
| 15:36 | o_cee | hi all |
| 15:37 | o_cee | just wanted to say that i love you all |
| 15:37 | o_cee | muhahah |
| 15:38 | o_cee | screw you, i'm going home. |
| 15:38 | bitbyte | byebye |
| 15:38 | o_cee | nighty night, getting up 4:30 tomorrow so.. bye bye |
| 16:10 | Chutt | thor, heh, now it's deleting the wrong items from playlists =) |
| 16:10 | thor | heh |
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| 16:11 | Spida | hi |
| 16:12 | Chutt | ah hah, i think i see why |
| 16:13 | Chutt | hrm |
| 16:13 | Chutt | no |
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| 16:20 | _rkulagow | huh. i didn't know that the patches that chris kennedy was working on would be applicable to the -250's as well. be sweet if the ivtv stuff gets stabler. |
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| 16:32 | tmulle | anyone using Mythtv to watch tv on their computer monitors and NOT through the TV out? |
| 16:32 | sfr | yes |
| 16:32 | tmulle | i keep getting DirectFB errors something about /dev/fb0 or fb1 not found |
| 16:32 | tmulle | i can record shows just fine |
| 16:33 | GeckoFiend | This isn't a support channel, go to #mythtv-users |
| 16:35 | sfr | tmulle: please don't message me. there's #mythtv-users |
| 16:35 | sfr | and i use debian sid |
| 16:35 | Spida | I think I may have found a bug.... what should I do? |
| 16:36 | Chutt | fix it and send a patch to the mailing list |
| 16:36 | Spida | Chutt: my programming skills are not goos enough for fixing it? |
| 16:37 | Spida | s/goos/good/ |
| 16:37 | Chutt | guess you're out of luck |
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| 16:40 | bitbyte | heh |
| 16:41 | cmorgan | you could pay someone to fix it for you ;-) |
| 16:42 | cmorgan | its too bad sourcexchange and cosource are gone now... it was a neat idea |
| 16:45 | Spida | cmorgan: how much do you want? |
| 16:45 | knight- | Hmm |
| 16:45 | knight- | I like the concept of art packs that Roku has |
| 16:46 | knight- | I should make some art pack capabilities for MythGallery |
| 16:46 | cmorgan | Spida: i wasn't suggesting me, just suggesting that it is a resonable way to get people to hunt your bugs |
| 16:46 | cmorgan | you could easily post a reward for it on myth-users along with a description |
| 16:46 | bitbyte | heh |
| 16:47 | cmorgan | Spida: what exactly is the bug? ;-) |
| 16:48 | Spida | cmorgan: threading problem in the backend |
| 16:48 | cmorgan | such as? |
| 16:48 | Spida | the description is already on myth-users |
| 16:48 | bitbyte | ut oh |
| 16:48 | | * bitbyte shakes his head |
| 16:48 | Spida | "waiting for a thread.." |
| 16:48 | Spida | I think I know why it occurs |
| 16:48 | Spida | but I don't know how to fix it |
| 16:49 | Spida | if threadpool.isempty() returns true, the while-loop becomes an endless loop |
| 16:50 | Chutt | no, it doesn't. |
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| 16:52 | Spida | just above the while-loop, prt is initialized with null, so !ptr is true |
| 16:52 | Spida | is that right? |
| 16:53 | Chutt | you need to get yourself a book on c. |
| 16:53 | Spida | I know |
| 16:53 | Spida | And, I need some time to read it. |
| 16:53 | Spida | I know programming, but I don't know c |
| 16:54 | Chutt | no, you don't |
| 16:54 | Chutt | if you can't walk through a simple loop like that. |
| 16:56 | josephk | chutt: you have a way with words...lol |
| 16:58 | Chutt | hey thor |
| 16:58 | Chutt | d'ya remember checkTree()? |
| 16:59 | Spida | anyway, that function put me 80000 messages of "waiting for a thread.." in my log... |
| 16:59 | Chutt | ah, nevermind |
| 17:02 | bitbyte | any job leads yet Chutt? |
| 17:08 | Chutt | bunch of leads, no offers |
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| 17:25 | Chutt | thor, i spent about an hour debugging a crash because GenericTree's destructor wasn't virtual =) |
| 17:25 | Chutt | (entirely my fault, not yours) |
| 17:31 | thor | heh |
| 17:32 | thor | I only figured out that virtual destructors are a useful thing about 4 months ago |
| 17:32 | Chutt | stuff's working, mostly |
| 17:32 | Chutt | well, if you have a derived class |
| 17:32 | thor | yup |
| 17:32 | Chutt | kinda need it to delete properly =) |
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| 17:32 | thor | it's a wee bit counterintuitive though |
| 17:33 | Chutt | yeah |
| 17:33 | Chutt | this stuff's working ok, no |
| 17:33 | Chutt | now |
| 17:33 | thor | cool |
| 17:33 | Chutt | need to figure out why the -> arrows aren't showing up |
| 17:33 | Chutt | and why it's giving a checkbox to some things that aren't supposed to have it |
| 17:33 | thor | heh |
| 17:33 | Chutt | and then how to do moves in the playlist |
| 17:33 | thor | sounds promising |
| 17:34 | Chutt | and.. and.. and.. |
| 17:34 | thor | I was swamped with work work this week, but I'll be getting the mfe stuff sorted over the next few days |
| 17:34 | Chutt | cool |
| 17:34 | Chutt | i won't be checking stuff in for a bit |
| 17:34 | Chutt | too buggy as yet =) |
| 17:35 | thor | should be ready to sew together a much more interesting client in a few days then |
| 17:37 | Spida | so, anybody: how much would you want for fixing that bug? |
| 17:38 | anduin | Spida - if there were a bug it would be why something was sucking away processing threads. |
| 17:38 | thor | Spida, how many frontends are you running? |
| 17:39 | Spida | one |
| 17:39 | Spida | on the same machine |
| 17:39 | thor | Redhat? |
| 17:39 | Spida | it happens mostly after the last of several recordings has finished, but not everytime |
| 17:39 | Spida | gentoo |
| 17:40 | thor | hmm |
| 17:41 | thor | heh, govt is so funny |
| 17:42 | thor | doing my nanny taxes, there is actually a publication called, "Information for Employers Paying Wages to Illegal Aliens" |
| 17:42 | thor | (wonder if Walmart has read it) |
| 17:43 | Dibblah | Don't worry - Next time it'll be "How to declare your income from drugs and prostitution". |
| 17:44 | Spida | lol |
| 17:44 | cmorgan | bet those aren't deductable... |
| 17:45 | thor | the IRS is so friggin amoral, they don't care who payed it or who receives it, they just want their slice |
| 17:45 | bitbyte | they are single minded |
| 17:45 | bitbyte | hehe |
| 17:46 | bitbyte | thats how they took al capone down |
| 17:47 | Chutt | thor, it'd be neat if the ui types could be told to only redraw part of themselves |
| 17:47 | Chutt | speedier :p |
| 17:47 | thor | yup |
| 17:48 | thor | if they were smart enough to know which "parts" are which |
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| 20:00 | knight- | hi |
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| 20:38 | knight- | anyone know of an HD input card (not just output like the pchdtv) for linux? |
| 20:38 | knight- | so i can receive output from my existing hd receiver |
| 20:43 | knight- | DVS HDstationPro |
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| 21:03 | GeckoFiend | the pchdtv card *is* input |
| 21:05 | mikegrb | heh |
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| 21:28 | ofer | does anybody know of a gstreamer plugin that talks to myth? |
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| 22:31 | bitbyte | gecko, he means something with component inputs and not OTA i think |
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| 23:54 | Chutt | 10 files changed, 936 insertions(+), 94 deletions(-) |
| 23:54 | Chutt | 12 files changed, 621 insertions(+), 841 deletions(-) |
| 23:54 | Chutt | hrm |
| 23:54 | Chutt | not so bad |
| --- | Log | closed Sat Mar 20 00:00:26 2004 |