| --- | Log | opened Tue Mar 16 00:00:47 2004 |
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| 00:59 | billytwowilly | | is the website dead for everyone, or is it just me? |
| 01:08 | G-funk|laptop | | not dead for me |
| 01:09 | | * billytwowill goes to try again |
| 01:09 | billytwowilly | | hurray! it's back! |
| 01:09 | billytwowilly | | That was weird.. the whole network mythtv.org is on seemed to have disapeared from the routing tables and now it's back. |
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| 02:12 | brian_ | anyone here? |
| 02:12 | brian_ | Does mythdvd support ANY dvd player? |
| 02:12 | thor | yes |
| 02:13 | brian_ | so like, it's not mythtv specific? |
| 02:13 | brian_ | i mean |
| 02:13 | brian_ | mplayer |
| 02:13 | thor | ogle, xine, whatever |
| 02:13 | brian_ | I got this old dxr3 card, supports menus and other cool shit |
| 02:13 | brian_ | nice, what do you recomend thor? |
| 02:13 | thor | xine |
| 02:14 | brian_ | has support for menus and what not? |
| 02:14 | thor | yup |
| 02:15 | brian_ | xine dvd:// |
| 02:15 | brian_ | that's it? |
| 02:16 | thor | well, you may want Xv on, and if you have a digital receiver, you may want S/PDIF out |
| 02:16 | brian_ | well, i'm going to try it w/o the dxr card first |
| 02:16 | brian_ | i gotta create an ebuild for that |
| 02:18 | Chutt | thor, yo |
| 02:18 | thor | yup |
| 02:19 | Chutt | i suppose i may write some code tomorrow |
| 02:19 | thor | heh |
| 02:19 | thor | how were the movies ? |
| 02:19 | Netslayer | hey guys how goes it? |
| 02:19 | brian_ | i don't see anything about XV in xine --help |
| 02:19 | Chutt | brian, does this look like #xine? |
| 02:20 | Netslayer | brian_, it should be on already if your using mythtv |
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| 02:20 | brian_ | Chutt: no, but you seem like an ass |
| 02:20 | Chutt | heh |
| 02:20 | | * thor goes hunting for dust bunnies |
| 02:21 | Chutt | you're funny. |
| 02:21 | brian_ | yeah, i masturbate with sandpaper too |
| 02:21 | Chutt | shall i ban you now, or allow you to stay longer? |
| 02:21 | Netslayer | heh |
| 02:21 | brian_ | do whatever you want... it just reflects upon the project you're working with |
| 02:21 | Chutt | how? |
| 02:21 | brian_ | that's why lots of people dislike mplayer, the people who work on it are asses |
| 02:21 | Chutt | why should you ask for help with xine in the mythtv development channel? |
| 02:21 | | * Netslayer points at how the topics states mythtv-users |
| 02:22 | brian_ | it was a simple question and in context... since we were already talking about xine related to mythtv |
| 02:22 | brian_ | you don't need to ban me, i'll just leave |
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| 02:22 | Netslayer | heh |
| 02:22 | thor | anyhooo, what were you planning on working on ? |
| 02:23 | Chutt | fixing the osd menu positioning |
| 02:23 | Chutt | checking that osd crash fix |
| 02:23 | Chutt | then maybe playing with the music ui a bit |
| 02:23 | thor | is it just me, or is UIListBttnType a bit incomplete ? |
| 02:23 | Chutt | how so? |
| 02:24 | thor | I was going to use it for my little mfe client |
| 02:24 | Chutt | i'd check the osd stuff i did |
| 02:24 | thor | (not the OSD version, the pahli version) |
| 02:24 | Chutt | right |
| 02:24 | Chutt | i enhanced the osd version |
| 02:24 | thor | right |
| 02:24 | Chutt | was going to move those back to the ui version |
| 02:24 | thor | ah |
| 02:24 | thor | good |
| 02:24 | Chutt | building stuff from a generic tree class |
| 02:25 | Chutt | handling levels, etc |
| 02:25 | thor | right |
| 02:25 | thor | good good |
| 02:26 | thor | so useful mfd-based playback should be in place in another day or so |
| 02:26 | Chutt | neat |
| 02:26 | thor | but then I have to figure out how to push playlists back to the mfd |
| 02:26 | thor | which will be fun |
| 02:26 | Chutt | heh |
| 02:26 | Chutt | plans on how to handle vis? |
| 02:27 | thor | socket, binary |
| 02:27 | Chutt | cool. |
| 02:27 | thor | first 4 bytes, amount of info to come |
| 02:27 | thor | then bytes of levels |
| 02:27 | thor | err, samples |
| 02:27 | thor | err, sampled samples |
| 02:28 | thor | dunno, have to look at what goom-like things really want to see as input, and wrap a little binary protocol around it |
| 02:28 | thor | bah, kmail sucks |
| 02:30 | thor | managed to get evolution compiled under slack |
| 02:30 | thor | but now it won't import anything |
| 02:30 | thor | hd crashes annoy me |
| 02:31 | Netslayer | so how's the osd coming?, I haven't updated since .14, been kind of busy |
| 02:32 | Chutt | thor, replace the drive? |
| 02:32 | thor | nope |
| 02:32 | thor | yes, yes, I am an idiot |
| 02:32 | Chutt | heh |
| 02:32 | Chutt | naw |
| 02:33 | thor | ah ha! |
| 02:33 | thor | http://freshmeat.net/projects/ceiconvert/?topic_id=28%2C87 |
| 02:33 | thor | that might do it |
| 02:46 | thor | nope |
| 02:52 | MaxeyPad | thor: have you tried thunderbird |
| 02:52 | thor | I looked at it for about 3 minutes |
| 02:53 | thor | anyhooo, figured out how to do the import into evolution |
| 02:53 | thor | (one folder at a time) |
| 02:53 | Chutt | heh |
| 02:53 | thor | which should take me about 4 days |
| 02:54 | MaxeyPad | I've not really messed with evolution that much, can it work with exchange? |
| 02:54 | thor | supposedly |
| 02:55 | thor | although anything that complicated (ie. working with software that sucks that bad) seems to mysteriously lead to ximian links for support contracts |
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| 04:52 | thor | good god myth takes a long time to compile |
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| 06:16 | Dibblah | Is anyone else looking at adding 'watch current recordings in progress' instead of the 'all recorders are in use' error to mythtv? |
| 06:18 | Dibblah | (I'm afraid I'm still learning my way around the source_... Currently, I'm thinking of doing the same as RemoteGetRecordingMask but doing GET_RECORDING instead of IS_RECORDING, then just displaying the list as a menu, changing the context to one of the in-progress recordings. Comments? |
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| 10:38 | muehlbucks | morning mythers! |
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| 11:27 | knight- | yoh |
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| 12:22 | knight- | I really wish we could mark an input device as "security cam" ;) |
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| 12:54 | dja | Chutt: you around? |
| 12:55 | dja | o_cee: you around? :-) |
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| 13:04 | Chutt | dja, no |
| 13:04 | Chutt | i am not around |
| 13:04 | dja | :-) |
| 13:04 | thor | are you an oblong? |
| 13:04 | dja | I'm pretty round myself :-) |
| 13:05 | dja | I was just wondering if David Engel is correct about the way the scheduler problem I'm having (if you've seen the email) |
| 13:06 | Chutt | haven't really looked at it |
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| 13:06 | dja | he's stating that if you restart mythbackend in the middle of a recording that it has never "restarted" the recording |
| 13:06 | thor | seen it happen |
| 13:06 | Chutt | it has |
| 13:07 | dja | that's what I thought -- I even remember when you added it (I think :-) |
| 13:07 | thor | in fact, it works quite well |
| 13:07 | dja | thor: are you running a current CVS (with David's scheduler patches)? |
| 13:07 | Chutt | 'course, i don't restart my backend in the middle of recordings |
| 13:07 | dja | I usually don't, but I had to the other night and caught hell from my wife because we only got the first couple of minutes of her show. |
| 13:07 | thor | I saw it happen about 2-3 weeks ago with what was then current CVS |
| 13:08 | thor | first 11 minutes of BBC news, last 15 minutes or so, reboot in between |
| 13:08 | dja | from what I (and at least one other) have experienced, David's new scheduler will not continue recording the show after a restart... |
| 13:09 | dja | and he even states that it's part of the design, that because it's in the recorded table, it won't continue recording the show...:-( |
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| 13:11 | Chutt | lemme chime in |
| 13:11 | o_c | dja: .. |
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| 13:12 | dja | o_cee: was just looking for someone to tell me I'm not crazy (reguarding the scheduler patches) :-) |
| 13:13 | o_cee | ah, hehehhe |
| 13:13 | o_cee | i'm a little confused about other things as well, so i'm not really much of a help ;) |
| 13:13 | dja | yeah, I've seen your postings. :-) |
| 13:13 | bitbyte | do mythmusic and mythvideo use a diff method of playign back audio than the module that plays back live tv and recorded shows? |
| 13:13 | o_cee | heh, they continued off-list |
| 13:13 | Chutt | bitbyte, mythmusic does |
| 13:14 | dja | :-) |
| 13:14 | Chutt | mythvideo uses whatever you tell it to. |
| 13:14 | bitbyte | chutt, i get crackling when I play videos i've uploaded and other things like mp3's cd's etc. but not when i watch live tv or a recorded show |
| 13:14 | o_cee | thor: i'm having a weird issue with MM today.. whenever i enter edit playlist i can't esc out of it... need to kill mythfrontend.. very odd |
| 13:14 | Chutt | if it's happening in mythvideo with mplayer or xine, it's not my problem |
| 13:15 | thor | o_cee, cvs mmusic ? |
| 13:15 | bitbyte | i'm just lookig for something different so i can find a direction to look |
| 13:15 | Chutt | your sound card drivers. |
| 13:16 | bitbyte | but wouldnt i get crackling all the time then? |
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| 13:16 | Chutt | no. |
| 13:17 | bitbyte | im not asking you to fix it, but i gotta get enough info to know what direction to look in |
| 13:17 | Chutt | i just told you |
| 13:17 | Chutt | your sound card drivers. |
| 13:17 | thor | sample rates may be different, you might be using alsa in core myth and oss emulation in mmusic, there's a bazillion little things that could be broken in your driver and only show up in some circumstances |
| 13:17 | bitbyte | i thought about sample rates |
| 13:17 | bitbyte | i dont know where to set the sample rate for myth tv |
| 13:18 | bitbyte | altho i did let it rip cd's for me at diff qualities, i assumed it would use diff sampling rates that way |
| 13:18 | Chutt | what part of 'sound card drivers' did you not understand? |
| 13:18 | bitbyte | i understamd chutt, simply clarifying to thor what i've done is all |
| 13:19 | thor | encoding to mp3/ogg/whatever does not change the sampling rate, it changes the bit rate |
| 13:19 | bitbyte | altho i must admit i don't understand how the drivers would let it happen in one instance and not the other. Ill look for newer drivers. thanks |
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| 13:19 | bitbyte | ok |
| 13:19 | bitbyte | is ther someplae i can set that? |
| 13:19 | Chutt | no. |
| 13:19 | bitbyte | k |
| 13:20 | bitbyte | thor, i dont have oss isntalled, altho i do have oss compliant alsa modules loaded |
| 13:20 | o_cee | thor: yeah, somewhat |
| 13:21 | bitbyte | thanks for the help. thats more answers in 5 minutes than i've gotten inthe last 5 days of searching and asking in myth-users |
| 13:21 | thor | o_cee, weird ... it could be something mfd did to the database, so would be interesting to find out more about the problem |
| 13:22 | thor | (I have no idea what, but if you haven't changed anything else ... dunno ...) |
| 13:23 | o_cee | thor: me neither.. i'll try to recompile mm and some stuff like that before diving into it deeper.. gonne watch csi now.. |
| 13:23 | o_cee | late |
| 13:23 | o_cee | r |
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| 15:40 | Chutt | dja, there, david's going to fix it :p |
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| 16:13 | plac3bo^lapto | | hi everyone...i'm having a problem with viewing backend status on mythweb, and i know its not mythweb's fault, but it has to do with apache/php and wanted to know if anyone could help me out...i've searched gossamer-threads, and there is only 1 question with the same issue, but no replies... |
| 16:14 | plac3bo^lapto | | here is the error "readfile(): URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration" from status.php, line 17 |
| 16:16 | plac3bo^lapto | | everything worked fine when i was running mythweb on my redhat box, but then i had to move it to gentoo, and i started seeing this error, so i know it is not related to mythweb...any thoughts would be appreciated |
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| 16:28 | o_cee | apache.org would be a good start |
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| 16:48 | plac3bo^lapto | | i asked here, because it is a possibility that some one ran into the same or similar problem and could provide helpful information...if not, i know i can go to apache or php's website for endless pages of documentation |
| 16:49 | choenig | plac3bo^laptop: as this isn't a support channel, i't recommend #mythtv-users for that |
| 16:49 | choenig | s/i't/i'd/ |
| 16:49 | plac3bo^lapto | | ah, thank you, i did not know that channel existed, i appreciate it |
| 16:50 | srl | plac3bo^laptop: /topic :) |
| 16:50 | choenig | no problem... ever... srl :) |
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| 17:53 | pigeon | http://www.d1.com.au/hmc/HMC_highlights.html |
| 17:53 | pigeon | does that look like myth? or is it like tivo/freevo? |
| 17:55 | pigeon | never mind, it IS mythtv. |
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| 18:00 | thor | heh, you'd think they'd at least contrib the theme |
| 18:09 | choenig | this doesn't look like they're distribute that .iso incl. the source of mythtv, though that would be required thru gpl. |
| 18:09 | choenig | not that I looked into that .iso ;) |
| 18:25 | Chutt | bah, i don't want to email them asking for the source |
| 18:31 | o_cee | "The 'HMC Filters for Windows' package provides installers for filters and codecs that allow Home Media Centre television recordings to be played back on Windows PC's. |
| 18:31 | o_cee | " did they rup that filter as well? hmm |
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| 18:33 | Chutt | their manual has a GPL section at the end |
| 18:33 | Chutt | where they say they have the source on the machines |
| 18:33 | Chutt | etc |
| 18:33 | choenig | ah :) |
| 18:33 | o_cee | still think it's shitty :| |
| 18:34 | G-funk|laptop | | find someone who bought one of those things and ask them for the source |
| 18:34 | pigeon | actually those update iso contains a tarball of mythtv stuff, which includes sources. |
| 18:35 | o_cee | ah well mythtv is mentioned in the manual as well |
| 18:35 | choenig | o_cee: it is ? where? |
| 18:35 | o_cee | page 26 |
| 18:35 | o_cee | i think it was |
| 18:36 | choenig | oh, yes, your right, I was just reading that part :) |
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| 18:42 | thor | hmmm |
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| 18:42 | G-funk|laptop | | wow, they have a bunch of themes |
| 18:57 | G-funk|laptop | | would anyone be interested in something that prints the schedule of upcoming recording while watching livetv? |
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| 20:37 | bitbyte | the mythmusic thing in there they didnt eve bother to change the way it looks, it's identical |
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| 20:41 | bitbyte | i told you ppl would pay to buy myth on a box and not have to mess with figuring out what hardware works ;) |
| 20:43 | bitbyte | software can still be free, they just buy the hardware and some service |
| 20:44 | | * mikegrb services kvandivo |
| 20:48 | | * bitbyte cover his eyes |
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| 23:04 | knight- | hey Chutt |
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| 23:24 | knight- | heh |
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| 23:37 | sbh | Who does the music module? |
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| 23:39 | knight- | hey Chutt |
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| 23:55 | pigeon | hmm, myth doesn't do anything like multiple mythbackend talking to each other yet right? |
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