TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#mythtv:2004:03:12

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00:22	WX	any PVR250/350 users here?
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05:23	WodanTJ	Hello, I'm trying to change date-settings in Mythweb (Settings->mythweb) but when I save it seems ok but if I go away from that page and back to it, all the default settings are restored (and dates neverchanged on other pages). Is this a known problem?
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09:57		* kvandivo thinks he needs to order 3 or 4 of those new 400 gig drives for his myth system.
10:00	bitbyte	hehe
10:00	bitbyte	order me one too
10:18		* dja thinks his wife would leave him if he did that
10:18	kvandivo	but you'd be able to watch lots of tv to drown your sorrows
10:19	dja	:-)
10:19	dja	somehow I don't think it would be enough...
10:19	dja	besides, she would leave the kids too (we have 4 young children :-)
10:25	o_cee	kvandivo: 400? oooh, intresting.. who's making em?
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10:27	kvandivo	see /. hitachi
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10:33	thor_	Chutt, so did it build ?
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10:54	Spida	re
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10:58	Chutt	thor, sorry, forgot all about it :(
11:01	bitbyte	hmm, nintendo is crackign down on emulators
11:02	dja	Chutt: did you ever hear back from <someone> about my OSD crash (sorry, I went to lookup <someone> but Mike's irc logs are missing -- did someone threaten him?)
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11:19	o_cee	"Sorry due to excessive use this site is temporarily down. I am workking on finding another host and/or mirror." <-- heh
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11:57	o_cee	Chutt: i have an idea for you. the money people want to give you, use them to buy myth.tv.. :)
11:57	o_cee	myth.tv has not been registered
11:57	o_cee	These related domain names are also available for registration:
11:57	o_cee
11:57	o_cee	twilight-of-the-gods.tv
11:57	o_cee	hehe, riiiight
12:05	thor_	lamedomainname.com
12:05	thor_	oh, wait
12:05	thor_	someone already owns that
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---	Log	closed Fri Mar 12 12:17:25 2004
---	Log	opened Fri Mar 12 12:17:28 2004
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12:21	o_cee	heh:)
12:21	o_cee	imaginative name
12:23	o_cee	500$/2year, isn't that pretty much?
12:24	kvandivo	prevents most squatting
12:25	o_cee	guess so
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12:39	thor_	they asking for $500 ?
12:39	o_cee	mmm
12:39	thor_	I think I clicked through it at one point and they were in the $250 area
12:39	thor_	year or so ago
12:40	o_cee	heh
12:40	o_cee	500/1yr
12:40	o_cee	850/2yr
12:41	thor_	the whole .tv registrar has such a sordid history
12:41	o_cee	you want to try mfd stuff now?
12:41	o_cee	anna's at ikea ;)
12:41	thor_	heh
12:42	thor_	a swedish girlfriend at Ikea
12:42	thor_	pickled herring for breakfast ?
12:42	o_cee	hah
12:42	o_cee	no
12:42	thor_	lemme see if I can plug this thing in the right way
12:42	o_cee	sounds nasy
12:42	o_cee	nasty
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12:43	thor_	too many friggin computers
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12:49	brunner	how many mythtv developers are there?
12:49	thor_	10 ~ish people with CVS write access
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12:51		* mikegrb hands 10ish cupcakes to thor
12:51	mikegrb	you know what to do with them
12:51	thor_	heh
12:51	thor_	o_cee, you have your mDNS proxy ready ?
12:51	o_cee	not really
12:51	o_cee	but that's easily fixed
12:52	Chutt	there's still snow on the ground
12:52	Chutt	i wonder if i should go back to bed
12:52	mikegrb	yup
12:52	thor_	definitely
12:52	mikegrb	sleep is goooood
12:52	Chutt	that's what i did earlier =)
12:52		* mikegrb just woke up from a nap
12:53	thor_	o_cee, mfd/mdcap on 208.185.11.50:2344
12:53	o_cee	damn got exam tomorrow at 8am.. :\
12:53	o_cee	thor_: i'm oooon it soon
12:56	thor_	hmm, I seem to have a client
12:56	o_cee	hmm yeah hold on
12:56	thor_	coming, going away again
12:56	o_cee	mfd is spamming me with debug output :)
12:56	o_cee	that was itunes.. it couldn't connect, just jumps out
12:57	thor_	nb, not a DAAP protocol
12:57	thor_	mdcap protocol
12:57	thor_	in your mDNS proxy
12:57	Chutt	thor, hey
12:57	thor_	yup
12:58	Chutt	if i have the mfd running on my other machine
12:58	Chutt	mfe segfaults
12:58	thor_	cool
12:58	o_cee	./mDNSProxyResponderPosix 208.185.11.50 208.185.11.50 "thor" _daap._tcp. 2344
12:58	o_cee	that not correct?
12:58	thor_	nope
12:58	Chutt	if i start mfe up with just mfd running on localhost, it works
12:58	o_cee	argh
12:58	Chutt	then if i start mfd on the remote host, boom
12:58	thor_	./mDNSProxyResponderPosix 208.185.11.50 208.185.11.50 "thor" _mdcap._tcp. 2344
12:59	o_cee	arhmm.. hmm, okay
12:59	thor_	Chutt, ok ... if only one mfd that is remote, that ok?
13:00	thor_	o_cee, sorry
13:00	thor_	what you want is probably
13:01	thor_	./mDNSProxyResponderPosix 208.185.11.50 208.185.11.50 "thor" _mfdp._tcp. 2342
13:01	Chutt	thor, segfault is: discovered.cpp, line 51
13:01	Chutt	host_address is null
13:01	thor_	ah
13:01	Chutt	ie, it can't look up the remote hostname
13:01	thor_	more DNS-less suprises
13:02	Chutt	yup =)
13:02	thor_	will fix
13:02	Chutt	good that it's getting taken care of now =)
13:02	thor_	yup
13:03	o_cee	could not connect to mfd on "208"
13:03	o_cee	found an mfd but could not connect to it
13:03	thor_	"208" ?
13:03	o_cee	ah damn you changed the port?
13:03	o_cee	2342 or 2344?
13:03	thor_	2342, mfdp
13:04	o_cee	208 is the beginning of your ip? dunno
13:04	thor_	ah yeah, it's probably section'ing on the dot
13:05	o_cee	that is all output i get
13:05	o_cee	at least it sees it ;)
13:05	thor_	heh, well it's not going to work anyway, cause you'll get the saem segfault as Chutt
13:05	thor_	same
13:06	o_cee	m'kay
13:06	thor_	let me fix that first
13:06	o_cee	yeah
13:06	thor_	in the meantime, you can listen to some of my music on daap 3689
13:06	thor_	:-)
13:06	o_cee	heh :)
13:07		* o_cee playing: "Foo Fighters - Tired Of You -" .:192kbps\|Stereo\|5:11:.
13:07	mikegrb	heh
13:07		* mikegrb phones the RIAA with a hot tip
13:07	thor_	heh
13:08	thor_	well, probably legal in Sweden
13:08	mikegrb	heh
13:08	o_cee	you betcha
13:08	mikegrb	we have a room mate moving in
13:08	mikegrb	guy from work
13:08	mikegrb	our network was a selling point :)
13:08	mikegrb	and mythtv
13:08	thor_	heh
13:09	mikegrb	and the 100's of gb's of media stored on the network
13:09	mikegrb	oh I looked up my transit on home lan last night in my switch
13:09	mikegrb	86 GB
13:09	mikegrb	in 15 days
13:09	mikegrb	that is a lot of data
13:09	mikegrb	need to remember to reset the switches counters once a month
13:10	thor_	somebody probably has a shell script
13:10	o_cee	need to switch my old 10mbit hubs, slow as hell
13:10	thor_	... :-)
13:10	mikegrb	heh
13:10	mikegrb	I have a nice managed 24 port switch
13:10	o_cee	boom boom
13:11	mikegrb	get mrtg graphs for earch port and the like
13:11	mikegrb	http://home.thegrebs.com/mrtg/
13:11	o_cee	sounds useful
13:11	o_cee	heh
13:11	mikegrb	yup
13:11	mikegrb	fun to play with anyway
13:11	mikegrb	overkill for a home lan but I got an awesome deal
13:11	o_cee	xbox as frontend?
13:11	mikegrb	yes
13:12	mikegrb	iguana is the backend
13:12	o_cee	k
13:12	mikegrb	you can really see where it is used :)
13:12	o_cee	yeah ;)
13:12	mikegrb	and the persistant traffic is the frontend asking if the backend is recording every 8 sec or so so it can set the led on the front
13:12	dja	mikegrb: did someone scare you into taking down the mythtv irc logs? :-)
13:13	mikegrb	dja: nah
13:13	mikegrb	dja: switched that server to debian
13:13	mikegrb	haven't finished everything yet
13:13	dja	ahh...
13:14	o_cee	Chutt: will you start applying stuff soon? :)
13:14	Chutt	yeah
13:15	Chutt	today, maybe, once i start waking up
13:15	dja	Chutt: did you ever hear back about my OSD crash?
13:15	o_cee	okay
13:15	Chutt	yeah, he's gone until saturday
13:15	dja	(btw, I switched to blue-osd and haven't had a crash since)
13:15	Chutt	i may just fix it myself
13:15	dja	np -- just curious. :-)
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13:17	dja	btw, I've been having an odd problem recently - when I go to delete the frontend "hangs" for a minute and then says it lost the connection. backend is fine, nothing obvious in the logs and the frontend is still talking to the backend (I can watch shows, etc., just not delete). I have restart the backend before I can delete again...any suggestions on where to poke around?
13:18	Chutt	networking code in libmyth/util.cpp
13:18	Chutt	see why it's thinking the backend went away
13:18	dja	cool -- will do, thanks. :-)
13:18	o_cee	i've seen that as well, but only when deleting really large stuff..
13:19	dja	these are typically just 1 hour recordings...
13:19	Chutt	switch to xfs
13:19	Chutt	=)
13:19	Chutt	it may be delete speed, dunno
13:19	o_cee	ah yeah that would probably help :)
13:20	dja	I'm running jfs, it should be almost as fast. :-)
13:20	Chutt	ah well
13:20	dja	I had been running Reiserfs and deletes were taking 10-15 seconds -- that drove my wife and I nuts :-)
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13:20	o_cee	would be nice if it'd just delete in the background without having to wait for it
13:20	dja	submit a patch
13:21		* dja lol
13:21	Chutt	it does
13:21	Chutt	delete in the background, that is
13:21	o_cee	yeah but the dialog is still up?
13:21	Chutt	anyway, if it's just waiting for a response from the backend
13:21	Chutt	use the delete screen
13:22	o_cee	ah yeah i'm not
13:22	dja	me either, I removed it from my menu :-)
13:22	Chutt	dja, i'd take a look in MainServer::DoHandleDeleteRecording()
13:22	Chutt	to see what's holding it up from responding
13:22		* dja jots down a note to look at that
13:22	Chutt	if that's what's happening
13:32	o_cee	Chutt: will you apply the logging module now as well? did you save the .png or should i email it to you?
13:32	Chutt	email it to me again, please
13:32	o_cee	sure
13:32	Chutt	been awhile since i've done anything, probably lost it
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13:49	Chutt	hehe
13:50	Chutt	axel thimm's going to ask hauppauge if they're interested in funding a windows port of mythtv when he's demoing things to them at cebit
13:50	mikegrb	:)
13:50	mikegrb	would be a big improvement for them
13:50	Chutt	yeah
13:50	Chutt	their software is pretty crappy
13:51	mikegrb	I never installed their software though
13:51	o_cee	whos?
13:51	mikegrb	didn't have a computer to install it on :p
13:51	o_cee	ah damn didn't read above, hah
13:51	Chutt	hauppauge's windows software that comes with their tuner cards
13:51	o_cee	looed crappy on the screenshots as well
13:52	o_cee	then they'd hire you for consulting right? :)
13:52	thor_	Chutt Inc.
13:53	o_cee	aaaah
13:53	thor_	and i bet that damn domain name is still free
13:53	o_cee	maybe that's why you didn't comment your code ;)
13:53	mikegrb	heheh
13:53		* mikegrb gives o_cee a cupcake
13:54	o_cee	:)
13:54	o_cee	yummie
13:55	Chutt	i should update my books webpage
14:12	Chutt	heh
14:12	Chutt	www.mythtv.org/books/
14:12	Chutt	all my books =)
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14:13		* thor_ is trying to find something we've both read
14:13	kvandivo	chutt, are you bored?
14:13	Chutt	naw
14:13	Chutt	i just updated that
14:13	kvandivo	:)
14:14	thor_	ah ha!
14:14	Chutt	just a script i run
14:14	thor_	Snow Crash
14:14	kvandivo	shannara..
14:15	kvandivo	very good read
14:15	Chutt	eh
14:15	thor_	think that's it
14:16	Chutt	heh
14:16	Chutt	well, i read a little bit
14:16	kvandivo	what, no tekwar?
14:16	Chutt	hah
14:16		* kvandivo grins evily.
14:17	kvandivo	and no asimov... tsk tsk
14:17	Chutt	my dad owns all the asimov books
14:17	kvandivo	ahh.. ok..
14:17	Chutt	that's who i'm named after
14:17	thor_	ah ha
14:17	kvandivo	oh ya?
14:18	kvandivo	i've no clue who i'm named after
14:18	thor_	Uncle Vandivo, 'o course
14:18		* kvandivo smirks.
14:18	thor_	yeah, uhm, Chutt, anything non-SF in there .... ?
14:18	Chutt	haha
14:18	Chutt	that's funny
14:18	kvandivo	(i was wondering that as well, but wasn't going to ask)
14:19	kvandivo	you need to add in some clancy.. particularly his earlier stuff
14:19	Chutt	never liked him
14:19	kvandivo	i liked his early stuff.. for a lot of his late stuff he _really_ needs a firm editor
14:20	thor_	ha, Gibson
14:20	thor_	that's 2
14:20	kvandivo	supposedly one chapter in his new book starts with, "The sun came up exactly at the crack of dawn"
14:20	thor_	"Gonna get dark tonight"
14:20	Chutt	hah
14:21	Chutt	626 rows in set (0.05 sec)
14:21	Chutt	heh, 626 total books
14:21	thor_	heh
14:21		* thor_ is thinking he should really find his digital camera and post a picture of his bookshelves
14:22	Chutt	mine are stacked sideways and two deep
14:22	Chutt	in most places
14:23	kvandivo	"It got to the point where I kept reading just to see how bad the writing could be. I see another reviewer noted that one chapter begins with "The sun rose promptly at dawn."
14:23	kvandivo	Pretty bad, but how 'bout this one: "ESPN had a baseball game on; the Mariners were playing the Yankees, to the current detriment of the former."
14:24	thor_	http://yara.sigvaldason.net/year1/afivisit/afi_books1.jpg
14:24	thor_	(new their had to be on elying around)
14:24	thor_	knew
14:24	thor_	lying
14:24	thor_	bah
14:24	kvandivo	nice
14:24	Chutt	heh, cool.
14:24	kvandivo	i need a bookshelf like that
14:25	thor_	some slightly re-enginereed IKEA
14:25	Chutt	that was part of the plan with me finishing the basement
14:25	Chutt	i'd move my computer stuff downstairs, and make the current office into a library =)
14:25	thor_	so get cracking
14:25	thor_	:-)
14:25	Chutt	more shelves, a comfortable chair
14:26	Chutt	need an electrician
14:26	thor_	ah yeah
14:26	Chutt	been too busy to call around so far
14:27	kvandivo	should we be laughing, or are you serious?
14:27		* kvandivo ducks.
14:27	Chutt	yeah, well
14:30	bitbyte	um, i'm having a brain cramp and cant find the guide offset setting, where is it?
14:31	bitbyte	pleeez
14:32	Chutt	what guide offset setting?
14:33	bitbyte	my guide shows one thing, and when i go to whats playing, the show thats on now is showing to be on 2 hours later in the guide
14:33	Chutt	ah
14:33	bitbyte	i thought i saw an offset settign in the setup somewhere
14:33	Chutt	setup program
14:33	Chutt	general settings
14:33	Chutt	it only affects insertions, though
14:34	bitbyte	ahh it's not in the "setup" button in myth?
14:34	Chutt	nope
14:34	bitbyte	hm
14:34	bitbyte	is that what i need to do?
14:34	Chutt	i wouldn't know, really
14:34	bitbyte	i have the right TZ and time on the machine
14:34	bitbyte	and it displays the time correctly
14:34	bitbyte	its just that whats on now shows to be on 2 hours later in the guide
14:35	bitbyte	can you aim me in the right direction?
14:36	thor_	sounds like you have the wrong content provider in xmltv config ?
14:36	Chutt	the time offset setting may work
14:36	Chutt	and can't hurt to try it
14:37	bitbyte	no, i am certain i have the right provider
14:37	bitbyte	is that myth-setup chutt?
14:38	Chutt	yup
14:38	Chutt	you'll have to delete your exising guide data, of course
14:38	bitbyte	i hasve to run that as root yes?
14:40	Chutt	no
14:41	bitbyte	cmd not found
14:41	bitbyte	i'll figure it out later
14:41	bitbyte	i have to head back to work
14:41	bitbyte	thanks for the help
14:41	bitbyte	altho i did a find / -name myth-setup and got nothing back
14:42	WodanTJ	bitbyte: you should try mythtv-setup instead since thats the correct name of it
14:42	bitbyte	ahh
14:42	Chutt	well, the correct name for it is 'setup'
14:42	Chutt	some distributions change that
14:43	bitbyte	got it
14:45	bitbyte	ty
14:45	WodanTJ	i got a more interesting failure. My PC freezes while playing mp3s and with intense visual effects. I was thinkins, does mythtv have its own mp3player or is it using another player? (i could try running it with that without mythtv)
14:46	bitbyte	i ofudn the offset set to "none" instead of the usualy "auto" thats proll yht problem
14:46	WodanTJ	my second guess is that the gfx gets to hot, so it could be my hardware, but i just want to make sure
14:46	bitbyte	i ofudn the offset set to "none" instead of the usualy "auto" thats proll yht problem
14:46	bitbyte	oops
14:46	bitbyte	sory
14:46	bitbyte	bbl
14:47	thor_	god this is a pain
14:47	Chutt	its own player, of course
14:47	Chutt	thor, hm?
14:47	thor_	mdns
14:47	Chutt	ah
14:47	thor_	another level of calls to get a friggin ip address
14:48	thor_	still, right way to do it
14:48	WodanTJ	Chutt: hmm well can I somehow use that player in console without X? Just to check so it isn't the player that locks the PC..
14:48	thor_	WodanTJ, set viz to blank and abuse it
14:48	thor_	it's almost certainly goom
14:48	WodanTJ	goom?
14:49	thor_	goom viz
14:49	WodanTJ	thor_: that is intense so that my gfx fails or..badly coded? :)
14:50	thor_	badly coded
14:50	Chutt	it does use a lot of system resources, though
14:50	WodanTJ	ah
14:51	WodanTJ	dunno if i get a kernel panic though since scroll+caps doesn't flash
14:51	WodanTJ	so its certainly freezing the system
14:51	WodanTJ	It wouldn't surprise me since my 3.3V is 3.9 atm :)
14:51	thor_	ah, the whole system freezes ?
14:51	WodanTJ	yes
14:51	thor_	that's hardware
14:51	thor_	(well, very likely)
14:51	WodanTJ	yeap i think the gfx overheats.. so i'm buying a new PSU tomorrow
14:52	WodanTJ	but i just wanted to make sure..
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14:54	WodanTJ	oh well thanks, bbl, spend some time with gf :)
14:55	thor_	gfx, gf, whatever
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15:09	mdz	Chutt: I suppose you would rather I install it as /usr/bin/setup?
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15:19	racer	thor have an idea about our (my) problem with mfe?
15:24	thor_	yup, your problem is solved
15:26	Chutt	mdz, '
15:26	Chutt	err, 'course not =)
15:45	thor_	ahhhh
15:45	thor_	light bulb
15:46	racer	do i need new mfe?
15:46	racer	or mfd?
15:47	thor_	new mfd, rebuilt, installed, then mfe built against that
15:47	racer	ok will try later!
15:47	racer	thnx
15:47	thor_	yup
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16:32	kvandivo	we might be buying about 45 of those 400 gig drives for work if they come out soon enough..
16:32	kvandivo	otherwise we'll go with the 300s that are out right now..
16:32	krash314	questions: 1)what is the prefered format for patches? 2)is anyone interested in patches to contrib stuff like channel-change-lirc.sh
16:36	mikegrb	1) mythtv-dev archives 2) submit and see
16:46	krash314	mikegrp: thanks
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16:59	Griffon26	Hi guys... I just noticed a bug and was wondering if anyone could tell me if it is already known...
17:00	thor_	I'm trying desperatly to read your mind, but it does not seem to be working? Are you wearing a lead helmet by any chance?
17:00	Griffon26	if the schedule in the database has an 'error' and has one big show (the good part of a day) overlapping a lot of other shows, I cannot record the shows that it overlaps. Even though the program finder shows the right times for those shows.
17:00	Griffon26	typing took longer than expected =]
17:00	thor_	heh
17:01	Griffon26	as long as I'm in the program finder, the right program name and time is displayed, but when I press enter to select the type of recording, it shows the big overlapping show's name and time
17:01	thor_	don't think I've heard of that one before, although the obvious solution would be to fix the guide data
17:02	Griffon26	yeah... but that'll be overwritten with the next cron job.
17:02	Griffon26	The root cause is the changes in the schedule's web site that keep breaking xmltv
17:02	thor_	(hard for myth to know which of two shows that claim to be on the same channel at the same time is "correct" and which is "wrong")
17:03	Griffon26	but even with the current content of the database, I would expect some graceful degradation
17:03	thor_	in which direction ?
17:03	Griffon26	the program finder knows which show I select and shows the right channel and time
17:03	Griffon26	it then already has some key into the program table
17:03	thor_	but if the guid data had been wrong the other way, then the program finder would be wrong and the scheduler would be right
17:03	Griffon26	but apparently a new select is done based on time and channel for the next screen
17:04	Griffon26	what do you mean "wrong the other way"?
17:04	Griffon26	There are two shows running on the same channel on the same time (according to my database contents)
17:04	thor_	that the program on all day long was actually on, and the shorter ones "inside it" were not on
17:05	Griffon26	If I select the program through the program finder, that should never cause a problem
17:05	Griffon26	I don't mind if the program schedule shows the wrong things
17:06	Griffon26	What I'm actually doing when I press enter in the program finder, is selecting a program by name and time. Not by channel and time (as in the program guide)
17:07	Griffon26	I would expect mythtv to take the name and time, find the channel, set the recording
17:08	Griffon26	but it seems to go from (program,time) to (channel,time) and then back to (program,time)
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17:30	o_cee	Griffon26: just remove guide data in your cron job before enterint the new stuff
17:31	o_cee	like: mysql mythconverg -umythtv -pmythtv --exec="DELETE FROM program WHERE starttime > NOW();"
17:31	o_cee	or something
17:32	kvandivo	not very friendly to the service
17:33	o_cee	?
17:33	o_cee	what service
17:33	mikegrb	all of them :/
17:34	o_cee	huh?
17:35	o_cee	hrhmrhhmmpff
17:39	o_cee	hmm
17:39	bitbyte	hrm
17:42	mikegrb	HRM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17:42	thor_	humina humina
17:43	o_cee	hmmmmmmm
17:43	o_cee	no clue what you're talking about
17:44	mikegrb	rar
17:44	o_cee	gz?
17:44	thor_	I think unlce vandivo's point was that ripping out your guide data every night puts 8 times as much load on the listings service
17:44	o_cee	why'd that be
17:45	thor_	'cause it gets 8 days data if it has none
17:45	thor_	but only one days (or so) if it already has the rest
17:45	o_cee	always gets 14 days here
17:45	o_cee	not for me
17:45	thor_	err, 14, whatever
17:45	bitbyte	howd you set it to do 14 days?
17:45	o_cee	bitbyte: you know i'm the swede right?
17:45	bitbyte	no, does that matter?
17:45	bitbyte	i don't hold it against you, hehe
17:46	o_cee	i don't grab my data from zap2it you know
17:46	bitbyte	ok, and
17:46	kvandivo	i changed filldata to get 60 days of data for me. works great. Did you know the friends finale in May is going to be 127 minutes long?
17:46	bitbyte	is the number of days it gets dependant on the service you use?
17:46	o_cee	bitbyte: uhm, why wouldn't it be? depends on the page you're grabbing from of course
17:47	o_cee	how much data they have
17:47	o_cee	mine has 14 days
17:47	thor_	nice to know the brealing news specials 6 moths from now
17:47	thor_	breaking
17:47	thor_	nm
17:47	bitbyte	o_cee, my understanding is that titantv has 14 days advance programming, yet myth only pulls 7 or 8 days
17:47	o_cee	know nothing about that
17:47	o_cee	would be trivial to change anyway
17:47	bitbyte	which is why i asked.. hehe
17:52	o_cee	maybe i should go to bed
17:52	thor_	no, it's almost ready !
17:52	o_cee	oh no you don't
17:52	o_cee	i've got an exam in.. 8 hours
17:53	o_cee	need to get some rest
17:53	o_cee	heheh
17:53	bitbyte	rest is highly overrated
17:53	thor_	ah,
17:53	thor_	go to bed
17:53	o_cee	yeah i will in like 10 minutes
17:53	thor_	(exam on Saturday?)
17:53	o_cee	yeah :\
17:54	o_cee	at 8am..
17:54	o_cee	they're nuts
17:54	thor_	should be illegal
17:54	o_cee	i agree
17:55	o_cee	that damn dvb guy didn't fix the status page
17:56	bitbyte	potty mouth
17:56	bitbyte	:)
17:56	thor_	non-XHTML compliant BASTARD!
17:56	o_cee	indeed
17:57	o_cee	chutt awake yet?
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17:58	o_cee	well then, g'night everyone
17:59	bitbyte	nite
17:59	bitbyte	good luck on your exam
18:06	thor_	Chutt, at your leisure (of course) you can try CVS
18:07		* thor_ goes for a little walk to get a cup of coffee
18:07	bitbyte	get me one plz
18:07	bitbyte	:)
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18:11	linagee	what program can i use to play mythtv streams from windows?
18:11	linagee	mpeg2 streams i believe
18:11	linagee	you would think windows media player can handle mpeg2 streams...
18:11	mikegrb	needs a codec
18:12	mikegrb	if you have any of the common dvd player programs installed then you should be fine playing them in wmp
18:12	linagee	mikegrb: where can i get it? it doesn't autodownload it. :(
18:12	Chutt	thor, hows it decide which mfd to connect to to start out with?
18:12	linagee	mikegrb: i have an old version of powerdvd, but it refuses to install on this computer. :(
18:12	mikegrb	ahh
18:12	mikegrb	one sec
18:13	Chutt	discoverythread.cpp: getting mdns host->ip answers that I never asked for
18:13	Chutt	discoverythread.cpp: getting mdns host->ip answers that I never asked for
18:13	Chutt	heh
18:13	Chutt	thor, seems to work, i'm seeing the remote files locally
18:13	Chutt	doubled up
18:13	Chutt	and if i disconnect the remote mfd, they go away
18:13	Chutt	if i restart it, though, it doesn't seem to have rebuilt the tree
18:15	mikegrb	linagee: http://www.ozzu.com/ftopic1140.html
18:15	Chutt	ah well, back after dinner
18:15	bitbyte	cya
18:16	mikegrb	linagee: there is a link 3/4 way down for a free mpeg2 codec
18:17	linagee	mikegrb: not seeing this link...
18:17	linagee	mikegrb: post with red text?
18:17	mikegrb	-- MPEG2 : Elecard free MPEG2 codec. The most famous free MPEG2 codec. (Note that MPEG2 codecs are automatically installed with most DVD Players (PowerDVD, WinDVD, etc. But Ok, they are not free... )
18:17	mikegrb	from ender22
18:18	linagee	mikegrb: ah. thanks. :) (it didn't look like a link)
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18:19	mikegrb	linagee: heh indee
18:19	mikegrb	indeed
18:19	linagee	mikegrb: this elecard thing seems not to exist or the site's it's on are very very slow
18:19	linagee	ah. nice. found another link to it. :)
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18:20	linagee	mikegrb: "Warning!!! Do Not poison your system with this software. After the trial period, it has a logo that dances across the screen. This logo appears on other players."
18:20	linagee	mikegrb: i wonder if that's a spammed warning...
18:21	linagee	oic...
18:21	linagee	wmp will use the codec
18:21	linagee	and since the codec has the dancing thing, someone thought that.... hahahaha
18:21	mikegrb	heh
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18:23	linagee	ack. this download seems to be needing some assistance of a downloading software.
18:23	linagee	(from .il)
18:23		* linagee tries to wget it
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18:42	thor_	<Chutt> discoverythread.cpp: getting mdns host->ip answers that I never asked for
18:42	thor_	hmm
18:44	mikegrb	hmmm
18:52	Chutt	on reconnecting the disconnected mfd
18:59	thor_	ah
18:59	thor_	hmm
18:59	thor_	ok
19:00	thor_	but they find each other again ok
19:00	thor_	?
19:01	thor_	right, well, few other things to fix first, then I can start cleaning up the client lib a little bit
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