| --- | Log | opened Wed Mar 10 00:00:14 2004 |
| --- | Day | changed Wed Mar 10 2004 |
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| 00:01 | bishop | anyone tried to install myth on mandrake 10? i was wondering how much of the v41/alsa stuff is in the default kernel |
| 00:01 | bishop | and it uses 2.6 |
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| 00:17 | thor_ | heh |
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| 00:50 | Chutt | i should do stuff |
| 00:50 | Chutt | but, i think laziness will win out tonight |
| 00:51 | thor_ | heh |
| 00:51 | thor_ | more navel gazing |
| 00:52 | Chutt | too many books just got published that i want to read |
| 00:52 | thor_ | read |
| 00:52 | Chutt | that's what i'm doing =) |
| 00:52 | thor_ | heh |
| 00:52 | thor_ | so I should probably shut up then |
| 00:52 | Chutt | eh |
| 00:52 | thor_ | nm |
| 00:52 | Chutt | heh |
| 00:53 | Chutt | how's the client lib coming? |
| 00:53 | thor_ | deltas are done |
| 00:53 | thor_ | so I think I want the lib to build the tree |
| 00:53 | Chutt | how well do you think it will handle mass amounts of metadata? |
| 00:53 | Chutt | for those fun people that have too many stolen music files? =) |
| 00:54 | thor_ | mass as in LAN, or mass as in thousands |
| 00:54 | Chutt | thousands |
| 00:54 | thor_ | does ~2000 files in under 2 seconds with one machine fairly slow |
| 00:54 | Chutt | cool. |
| 00:54 | thor_ | well, the daap stuff does |
| 00:55 | thor_ | the mfd <--> client is a bit slower at the moment |
| 00:55 | thor_ | (need to figure out why) |
| 00:55 | thor_ | plus they come in chunks |
| 00:55 | Chutt | if you're using lists |
| 00:55 | Chutt | remember that big optimization in the frontend was to not use ::at() |
| 00:56 | thor_ | hmmm, well, I've tried to use a lot of QIntDict's |
| 00:56 | Chutt | well, for the initial data transfer |
| 00:56 | thor_ | right |
| 00:56 | thor_ | well, first get it out to a full proof of concept, then figure out how to make it faster |
| 00:56 | Chutt | yeah |
| 00:57 | thor_ | but once all the mfd's and clients are up to speed, deltas are way fast |
| 00:58 | Chutt | yeah, sounds cool. |
| 00:58 | thor_ | move something around in iTunes, and boom, it's there on all mfd's and all clients |
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| 00:58 | Chutt | oh, thought of something earlier |
| 00:58 | Chutt | does your data transfer code handle > 2GB files? |
| 00:59 | thor_ | should do |
| 00:59 | Chutt | since you've mostly been doing music stuff, i was worried that that might have accidently gotten overlooked =) |
| 01:00 | thor_ | well, there may well be in an int somewhere that turns out to be too small, but nothing more brain dead than that |
| 01:00 | Chutt | ok |
| 01:00 | Chutt | cool. |
| 01:02 | Chutt | i think my main myth box got a lot louder recently |
| 01:02 | Chutt | else i'm just more annoyed by it |
| 01:03 | thor_ | little fur in a fan bearing somewhere |
| 01:04 | Chutt | something like that |
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| 02:12 | o_cee | must have missed some action tonight |
| 02:14 | thor_ | <Chutt> but, i think laziness will win out tonight |
| 02:14 | thor_ | that was the highlight |
| 02:17 | o_cee | sounds intresting, heh |
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| 02:19 | o_cee | who the heck is eric moors? |
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| 02:20 | thor_ | no idea |
| 02:20 | o_cee | heh |
| 02:20 | thor_ | but I occassionaly forget my wife's name |
| 02:20 | o_cee | haha |
| 02:20 | o_cee | pain in the ass when that happens |
| 02:27 | thor_ | hmmmm seems that removing elements from a QValueVector is very slow ... that would explain what's gong on |
| 02:30 | o_cee | back to get some more breakfast |
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| 02:30 | thor_ | I think I'm going to bed |
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| 05:36 | o_cee | the talk about having the ip in the frontend made me thing that i could put it on the backend status page..... it's always nice beeing able to amuse yourself :) |
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| 10:33 | dja | thor_: you around? |
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| 10:48 | djsignal | re |
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| 12:51 | thor_ | dja, I am now |
| 12:53 | o_cee | http://www.muchosucko.com/video-trustnoone.html <-- haha |
| 12:55 | Chutt | heh |
| 13:02 | dja | you still here thor? :-) |
| 13:02 | thor_ | yup |
| 13:02 | dja | I just got "Please send bug report - no VTS_TMAPT ??" -- should I care? :-) |
| 13:03 | Chutt | dja, have you used that dd grabber? |
| 13:03 | thor_ | weird DVD, or scratch ? |
| 13:03 | thor_ | it's probably libdvdread complaining |
| 13:03 | dja | I played with it last night, but I didn't try to load it into the myth db (didn't have enough time in case it broke and I had to put the old one back :-) |
| 13:03 | dja | it may be scratched (it's at home, I'm doing this via vnc :-) |
| 13:03 | Chutt | the channel ids will be different |
| 13:04 | Chutt | so they're not interchangeable |
| 13:04 | thor_ | dja, I'd try it again on a different drive and/or after a cleaning |
| 13:04 | dja | ahh |
| 13:04 | dja | thor_: ok - thanks. :-) |
| 13:04 | thor_ | yup |
| 13:05 | dja | Chutt: yeah, I was also wondering how it would deal with 2 lineups (I was figuring worst case is I register a second user and split them that way :-) |
| 13:05 | Chutt | you can have up to 4 lineups registered to one account, i think |
| 13:06 | thor_ | Chutt, is the very concept of XVMC flawed, or just some implementation detail ? |
| 13:06 | Chutt | i think the api is pretty crappy |
| 13:06 | Chutt | it's a decent idea |
| 13:06 | thor_ | ok |
| 13:10 | Chutt | blah |
| 13:11 | Chutt | stupid headhunters that want references |
| 13:17 | thor_ | heh, if it would be of any use ... |
| 13:18 | Chutt | you want to be one if needed? =) |
| 13:18 | thor_ | sure |
| 13:18 | Chutt | i probably should have a mythtv-related reference |
| 13:19 | Chutt | if it comes up, i'll let you know =) |
| 13:19 | thor_ | k |
| 13:27 | o_cee | awh crap now a string changed.. will fix that later.. |
| 13:30 | Chutt | yeah |
| 13:30 | Chutt | sorry, i've been not applying patches |
| 13:30 | Chutt | including your translation patch |
| 13:30 | o_cee | no problem, i know you've been busy |
| 13:33 | | * kvandivo passes on a snide remark. |
| 13:34 | Chutt | heh |
| 13:34 | Chutt | hey, it takes quite a lot of time to sit around and do nothing much |
| 13:34 | | * kvandivo throws back his head and cackles with insane glee. |
| 13:35 | Chutt | i'm actually doing a little bit of work for my old employer right now |
| 13:35 | Chutt | so, i am busy :p |
| 13:51 | dja | Chutt: sorry, had to run and help someone (sometimes that work thing can be a pain :-)...yes, you can have up to 4 lineups, just wondering how the grabber handles it (seeing as how each lineup had to have a seperate config file with the old grabber). |
| 13:51 | Chutt | well, i think they're kinda mixed together in the xml that it downloads |
| 13:52 | dja | they seem to be, I guess the best way to find out is to just try and run mythfilldatabase :-) |
| 13:52 | Chutt | so it'd be up to the parsing program to separate them out |
| 13:52 | Chutt | i doubt mythfilldatabase will do that right |
| 13:52 | dja | that was my fear. :-) |
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| 13:55 | BizTy | I've tried to install mythtv with apt-get, but when the computer starts it say something like: mythtv backend: starting server..Qsettings:error creating / .qt what does it mean, and how do I fix it? |
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| 13:56 | Chutt | BizTy, see the topic, please |
| 13:56 | BizTy | ohh, sorry |
| 13:57 | dja | Chutt: did you see my crash posting -- is the bt of any value? :-) |
| 13:59 | Chutt | when was it? |
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| 14:00 | dja | yesterday evening |
| 14:00 | kvandivo | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Dev_F10/crash_when_running_latest_CVS_P113467/ |
| 14:00 | kvandivo | ? |
| 14:00 | Chutt | oh, yeah |
| 14:00 | dja | kvandivo: thanks :-) |
| 14:00 | Chutt | i didn't really look at it |
| 14:00 | Chutt | how easy can you reproduce it? |
| 14:01 | dja | it seems to depend on if I'm trying to debug it through gdb...:-) It took me several minutes of bringing up the OSD before it crashed. |
| 14:02 | dja | unfortunately with FC1, I can only run one program before it crashes (i.e., if I startup mythtv and escape and then try to start up anything else, it crashes) |
| 14:03 | dja | I mean that within gdb, if I view live tv, exit and go back to view live tv, it crashes. |
| 14:03 | Chutt | ydestwidth = -2880 |
| 14:03 | Chutt | is the problem, i think |
| 14:05 | Chutt | what osd theme are you using? |
| 14:05 | dja | btw, this has been occurring for the last couple of weeks. it was pretty solid throughout January. :-). (one sec, I'll check which osd) |
| 14:05 | Chutt | it's the new mmx osd code |
| 14:06 | dja | visorosd (remote vnc through a cable modem isn't the fastest...:-) |
| 14:07 | Chutt | could you email me that osd off list? |
| 14:07 | dja | sure |
| 14:07 | Chutt | i don't believe i have a copy handy |
| 14:08 | Itisme | :) |
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| 14:09 | dja | sent it to the cwru address, is that correct? |
| 14:09 | Chutt | yup |
| 14:10 | Chutt | ah well |
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| 14:10 | Chutt | i just passed the buck to andrew mahone, who did the mmx stuff |
| 14:10 | Chutt | sent him an email off list =) |
| 14:10 | dja | y:-) |
| 14:10 | dja | s/y// |
| 14:10 | dja | does he hang out on here? |
| 14:11 | Chutt | not that i know of |
| 14:11 | dja | shucks... |
| 14:13 | Chutt | does that osd move upwards when it stops displaying? |
| 14:13 | Chutt | so that it's off the top of the screen? |
| 14:14 | dja | you mean when it crashes? |
| 14:14 | dja | never mind, I know what you mean...having to think about it, not sure...:-) |
| 14:14 | Chutt | i think that's causing it |
| 14:14 | Chutt | the mmx code isn't protected against that at all, it looks like |
| 14:15 | dja | ok, so if I switched to another osd for now, it would probably take care of it. :-) |
| 14:15 | dja | I'm pretty sure it slides to the nearest edge when it stops. |
| 14:18 | Chutt | ah, and i think i see how to fix it |
| 14:18 | dja | cool |
| 14:18 | Chutt | but i want to hear back from andrew, first |
| 14:18 | Chutt | since i may be off |
| 14:19 | dja | np, thanks. |
| 14:26 | Chutt | my network connection seems to be rather crappy today |
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| 14:36 | Chutt | heh |
| 14:37 | Chutt | 'ATI Developer Relations' |
| 14:37 | Chutt | asking me to connect them with the head of the mythtv development team |
| 14:37 | thor_ | think you can track him down? |
| 14:38 | thor_ | "team" |
| 14:38 | thor_ | heh |
| 14:38 | thor_ | I love that kind of thing |
| 14:38 | kvandivo | tell them you'll do some head hunting for them if they make it worth your time |
| 14:39 | Chutt | It would be great if you could get me in contact with the head of the project to discuss an alliance, where we can work together to make your application function with our multimedia hardware and reduce support calls. |
| 14:39 | thor_ | LOL |
| 14:39 | thor_ | you gotta love the consumer |
| 14:40 | Chutt | i've gotten many more random 'help me with mythtv' emails in the past few days |
| 14:40 | Chutt | oh well |
| 14:40 | Chutt | including one guy that wants me to tell him what parts to buy |
| 14:41 | Chutt | and then ship them to me for assembly + software installation |
| 14:41 | kvandivo | dude |
| 14:41 | thor_ | do I need PC2100 ram? |
| 14:41 | kvandivo | only on thursdays. |
| 14:41 | Racer | do i need a TV Card? |
| 14:41 | thor_ | what if my motherboard only has an AGP 2 port, will that work? |
| 14:42 | thor_ | I have some Phillips screws and some slot ones, is that ok? |
| 14:42 | Racer | so how about a TV-Out? |
| 14:42 | Chutt | blah |
| 14:42 | Chutt | why's it not dinner time yet |
| 14:42 | Chutt | i'm hungry |
| 14:43 | thor_ | eat when you're hungry, sleep when you're tired |
| 14:43 | Chutt | we're out of food =) |
| 14:43 | Chutt | it's grocery night tonight |
| 14:43 | thor_ | ah |
| 14:43 | Racer | so its not dinner time! |
| 14:43 | thor_ | god I miss Kozmo |
| 14:44 | Racer | coffee time for me, an a smoke! |
| 14:45 | thor_ | mmmm coffee |
| 14:45 | | * Racer is away! |
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| 15:05 | o_cee | how do i reset a manual override? i canceled a recording by mistake and now it won't let me restart it |
| 15:05 | Chutt | dunno if you can for in progress stuff |
| 15:05 | o_cee | doh :/ |
| 15:06 | o_cee | all scheduling got screwed today |
| 15:07 | o_cee | Encoder 2 is local on dragon and is not recording. <-- and i can't even start recording, heh. dammit |
| 15:08 | o_cee | can't even start a manual recording |
| 15:12 | mdz | I noticed that as well; it used to be possible to restart a recording by toggling it |
| 15:13 | mdz | but now you can't toggle it; it displays a status screen rather than the recording option screen |
| 15:14 | o_cee | yeah |
| 15:14 | o_cee | managed to get it running by restarting the backend tho |
| 15:15 | o_cee | but it's still all fucked up. |
| 15:15 | Chutt | you can hit i to go back to the recording option screen |
| 15:15 | Chutt | instead of the status screen |
| 15:15 | o_cee | will try to see what happened later, haven't got time now |
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| 15:29 | WX2 | anyone here use MythDVD to rip/encode xvids? |
| 15:30 | thor_ | theoretically |
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| 15:31 | WX2 | hah yeah |
| 15:31 | WX2 | there's a bug with it |
| 15:31 | WX2 | vertically stretches the picture |
| 15:32 | thor_ | you can determine precisely what the resolution of the re-encoded file will be, and you can also tell mplayer (or any other player) exactly what aspect ratio to use |
| 15:33 | WX2 | how? |
| 15:33 | thor_ | read README, man mplayer |
| 15:34 | WX2 | k |
| 15:34 | thor_ | also read README-database |
| 15:35 | WX2 | VIDEO: [XVID] 720x480 24bpp 23.976 fps 1795.4 kbps (219.2 kbyte/s) |
| 15:37 | WX2 | but shouldn't it be set the right way by default? |
| 15:38 | thor_ | what is set incorrectly ? |
| 15:38 | WX2 | the default aspect ratio |
| 15:38 | WX2 | shouldn't it play to the proper aspect by default? |
| 15:39 | thor_ | possibly, but I didn't write mplayer |
| 15:40 | WX2 | mplayer plays the xvid in it's natural resolution... the one it was encoded with |
| 15:40 | thor_ | note that 720x480 is precisely the native resolution of the vast majority of NTSC DVD's |
| 15:40 | WX2 | gotcha |
| 15:40 | WX2 | maybe a way to change/preview? |
| 15:41 | WX2 | implemented in a future version? |
| 15:41 | Chutt | sure, submit a patch. |
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| 15:41 | WX2 | hah i'll look into it |
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| 16:01 | Chutt | Mainly, I'd say the best way to assist would be to release better drivers for Linux. Driver support is the main reason for users of MythTV to not use ATI products. |
| 16:01 | Chutt | tee-hee |
| 16:01 | Chutt | the guy wanted to know what of their products work with mythtv |
| 16:03 | thor_ | you'll probably get back some confused e-mail about how an HTPC requires a special version of XP |
| 16:03 | Chutt | i'm really curious if the guy realized that this was a linux app |
| 16:04 | thor_ | if he's in (customer) support, he's probably looking up Linux in the binder |
| 16:05 | Chutt | developer relations |
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| 16:05 | thor_ | probably invite you to a training session on integrating ATI drivers with DirectX applications |
| 16:05 | thor_ | :-) |
| 16:06 | Chutt | heh |
| 16:06 | Chutt | i got a call from some guy who said he was talking with his lawyer about how to sponsor an open source project but not be liable for what's produced |
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| 16:07 | thor_ | but there's an outside chance you could morph this into a, "well it just so happens I know of a consulting company that can help hardware manufacturers make their products work with Myth" |
| 16:07 | Chutt | heh |
| 16:08 | thor_ | and, from what I understand, they have quite reasonable rates and tend to not abuse the travel stuff |
| 16:08 | Chutt | very reasonable rates |
| 16:08 | thor_ | low overhead |
| 16:10 | thor_ | give him a simple proposition, "this 'mythical' company can make your support problems go away for $x" |
| 16:11 | thor_ | you will recoup 1 million times $x in Linux goodwill and free publicity |
| 16:11 | thor_ | blah, blah, blah |
| 16:12 | Chutt | heh |
| 16:13 | Chutt | well, we'll see how he responds to my big list of 'none of your hardware works' |
| 16:16 | thor_ | and include a link to all the anti-ATI sentiment like this: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/06/1436223&mode=thread |
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| 17:59 | kvandivo | bruce burned some typing calories on that response... |
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| 18:15 | kvandivo | when annotating playbackbox.cpp.. http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mythtv/programs/mythfrontend/playbackbox.cpp?annotate=1.137 |
| 18:15 | kvandivo | it shows ijr rev 1.85 as being responsible for lines 1375 through 1381 |
| 18:16 | kvandivo | but when you click on rev 1.85 it doesn't show those lines as being changed |
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| 20:50 | thor_ | stan, baby ... top form once again |
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| 21:31 | asdfm5 | #mythtv-users |
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| 22:41 | cmorgan | arg, preview cpu usage problems again? |
| 22:43 | davatar | I don't think so.. mine is off.. I only have problems during playback |
| 22:44 | cmorgan | i though the preview stuff was fine... |
| 22:45 | davatar | yeah, I dunno.. I'll get a chance to do some testing this weekend.. but for now I have plenty of cpu power so.... |
| 22:45 | cmorgan | yeah |
| 22:46 | cmorgan | i keep watching the mailing list ;-) |
| 23:02 | | * kvandivo rubs his hands viciously and continues reading -dev mail. |
| 23:02 | thor_ | heh |
| 23:03 | kvandivo | aww.. the final paragraph is disappointing, assuming it is true. we'll see |
| 23:04 | thor_ | heh |
| 23:04 | thor_ | this conversation is _not_ over |
| 23:04 | kvandivo | :) |
| 23:04 | cmorgan | if he sent in code he'd have more of a leg to stand on |
| 23:04 | thor_ | code talks |
| 23:05 | cmorgan | i mean you can't be mean to users with feature requests |
| 23:05 | kvandivo | well, he's wanting to plan it a bit before blindly writing code, so i'll give him a bit of credit for that |
| 23:05 | cmorgan | but at the same time they have to be realistic when you tell them that you simply don't ahve time or interest |
| 23:06 | cmorgan | his request seems sane enough |
| 23:06 | thor_ | heh, he spoke his piece, but it's all moot unless he writes some code |
| 23:07 | cmorgan | and brad allen keeps posting on ivtv-devel ;-) |
| 23:07 | thor_ | heh |
| 23:07 | thor_ | the insane guy ? |
| 23:07 | cmorgan | yep |
| 23:07 | cmorgan | he has a lot to say |
| 23:07 | thor_ | as long as we don't loose stan |
| 23:08 | cmorgan | stan? |
| 23:15 | _rkulagow | thor: did you see my disappointing news on the "mac-for-thor" front? |
| 23:16 | _rkulagow | (in IRC, like yesterday?) |
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| 23:49 | thor_ | _rulagow, no ... what was it ? |
| 23:50 | _rkulagow | o'reilly won't do a book unless they think they can sell 10k books. |
| 23:51 | thor_ | sensible lower band for traditional publishing, they don't think it'll sell that many? |
| 23:51 | _rkulagow | they had a tivo hacks book which sold 14k, on known Tivo sales of 700k. |
| 23:52 | thor_ | so did they say, "no", or did they say "convince us it will sell 10K copies" |
| 23:53 | _rkulagow | we'd need 200K mythTV users with a 5% "take" to get 10K in sales. |
| 23:53 | thor_ | hmm |
| 23:53 | _rkulagow | it wasn't a "no", it was a "prove that there's an audience sufficiently large enough to go through the effort" |
| 23:53 | _rkulagow | so, can i put you down for 5000? |
| 23:53 | thor_ | sure |
| 23:54 | thor_ | sign me up |
| 23:54 | thor_ | well, just have to write enough good code to push the user base |
| 23:55 | thor_ | :-) |
| 23:56 | thor_ | although I don't think their logic is quite right ... put a MythKnoppix in the back of the book and you wouldn't be looking for a % of the installed base |
| 23:57 | _rkulagow | i haven't heard back from axel, but tarballs and debs are about 27k downloads now. |
| 23:58 | _rkulagow | that's only like half of the 200k users i'd need to show for them to get interested. |
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