| --- | Log | opened Tue Mar 09 00:00:30 2004 |
| --- | Day | changed Tue Mar 09 2004 |
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| 00:33 | | * thor_ is thinking Chutt is still having odd problems with his X server |
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| 00:33 | Chutt | thor, yeah |
| 00:34 | thor_ | seems odd, weird hardware ? |
| 00:34 | Chutt | haven't changed a thing, aside from newer debian X packages |
| 00:34 | thor_ | ah |
| 00:34 | Chutt | so, i'd assume that those are the problem |
| 00:35 | thor_ | that which remains, no matter how improbable, must be the cause |
| 00:35 | Chutt | heh |
| 00:35 | Chutt | i'm finally going to put my resume on the website tonight |
| 00:36 | thor_ | someone should start a betting pool |
| 00:37 | thor_ | heh, doesn't phpNuke have polls ... |
| 00:37 | Chutt | yeah, but i've got almost everything disabled in phpnuke |
| 00:37 | Chutt | cuts down on the exploits |
| 00:37 | thor_ | yeah |
| 00:38 | thor_ | but it would be nice: Chutt will find a job in A. one minute, B one hour, C one day, D one week, E making hot grits for Natalie Portman |
| 00:38 | Chutt | heh |
| 00:39 | thor_ | btw, client lib side for mfd is pretty much in a useable state |
| 00:39 | Chutt | great |
| 00:40 | Chutt | i've been slacking off on code the past few days |
| 00:40 | Chutt | catching up on my reading |
| 00:40 | thor_ | you should be slacking off on everything |
| 00:40 | thor_ | navel examination |
| 00:40 | Chutt | heh |
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| 00:42 | thor_ | just need to get server --> client lib deltas worked out, and then figure out which bit on the client side should be building the tree |
| 00:47 | Chutt | There are currently, 109 guest(s) and 0 member(s) that are online. |
| 00:47 | Chutt | heh |
| 00:47 | Chutt | website gets a lot of traffic these days |
| 00:47 | Chutt | 'course, that's just phpnuke's crappy estimate, but.. |
| 00:47 | thor_ | heh |
| 00:48 | thor_ | how many downloads (roughly) ? |
| 00:48 | Chutt | 3600 this month |
| 00:48 | Chutt | of the main package |
| 00:48 | Chutt | 21k of 0.14 total |
| 00:48 | Chutt | 'course, that is just the source |
| 00:48 | thor_ | yup |
| 00:49 | thor_ | apt and rpms are probably an order of magnitude |
| 00:49 | Chutt | naw |
| 00:49 | Chutt | about the same or lower |
| 00:49 | Chutt | in total |
| 00:49 | thor_ | what's Jarod's guide reference ? |
| 00:49 | Chutt | the rpms |
| 00:50 | thor_ | I'd bet good money those are an order of magnitude |
| 00:50 | thor_ | (everyone seems to say, "I was following Jarod's guide ... ") |
| 00:51 | Chutt | naw |
| 00:51 | thor_ | well, build the net based reccomendation engine and see how many people show up ... |
| 00:51 | Chutt | last time i saw numbers (many months ago), it was a lot lower |
| 00:51 | thor_ | err, how many IP's show up |
| 00:52 | Chutt | heh |
| 00:52 | Chutt | that'd be accurate =) |
| 00:52 | thor_ | heh |
| 00:52 | thor_ | still, even 21k total at $39.99 .... |
| 00:53 | Chutt | $5 would be plenty =) |
| 00:53 | thor_ | (full charge for version upgrades, 'o course) |
| 00:55 | thor_ | I've said it before, but a Windows myth desktop client that could do iTunes + all the video stuff is a workable little software business |
| 00:55 | Chutt | yeah |
| 00:55 | Chutt | i dunno |
| 00:56 | thor_ | Qt license is something on the order of $1,000, iirc |
| 00:56 | thor_ | no mythbackend stuff |
| 00:57 | Chutt | i don't think just a frontend part would be worthwhile |
| 01:00 | thor_ | I think a desktop client would be very useful for rearranging stuff (playlists, photo albums, video hierarchies, etc.) .... make the linux one GPL and sell essentially the same code base for the Windows client |
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| 01:20 | Chutt | blah |
| 01:20 | Chutt | hate writing crap |
| 01:20 | mikegrb | yup |
| 01:21 | Chutt | especially when it's 'hey, i lost my job, here's my resume. hire me'. |
| 01:22 | mikegrb | aye |
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| 01:22 | | * mikegrb gives Chutt a caffinated cupcake |
| 01:23 | thor_ | first rule of resume reading, if someone's been sitting in the same job for _years_, toss it |
| 01:24 | ofer | huh? you mean you'd rather have a person thats gone job to job? |
| 01:24 | thor_ | yup |
| 01:25 | mikegrb | I'm screwed |
| 01:25 | mikegrb | navy-- |
| 01:25 | ofer | heh |
| 01:25 | thor_ | heh |
| 01:25 | mikegrb | I gave them my 2 weeks notice many times |
| 01:25 | mikegrb | every time my various supervisors have just laughed at me |
| 01:25 | thor_ | well, military is a little different ... you work up to a point where you can get hired away by one of the outside firms you give jobs to |
| 01:26 | thor_ | :-) |
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| 01:26 | thor_ | or work with |
| 01:26 | mikegrb | heh yes |
| 01:26 | mikegrb | I think I shall step into the kitchen and fry some eggs |
| 01:27 | thor_ | mmmm |
| 01:27 | mikegrb | nothing like a good midnight snack |
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| 01:31 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:31 | Chutt | i think i shall deactivate comments on the website |
| 01:31 | thor_ | those are always so pathetic |
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| 01:32 | Feral_Kid | Any pointers on the differences between Freevo and MythTV? |
| 01:33 | thor_ | Freevo is vastly superior |
| 01:34 | Feral_Kid | thor_: Really? I got the complete opposite answer to someone who was on the #freevo channel... :) |
| 01:34 | Mace68 | what makes it superior... I'm just about to build a media box |
| 01:34 | Chutt | why would you even bother to ask that question in the #mythtv channel? |
| 01:35 | Feral_Kid | Chutt: For the simple purpose of trying to get an unbiased opinion of the pros and cons, before embarking on a direction... |
| 01:35 | Mace68 | Because I've briefly tried both and found MythTV to be superior |
| 01:35 | Mace68 | oh, sorry |
| 01:36 | Chutt | hah |
| 01:36 | thor_ | you are using the word "unbiased" in which sense ? |
| 01:36 | thor_ | ie. rabidly opinionated ? |
| 01:38 | Mace68 | Chutt: I wasn't sure who you directed that question to :S |
| 01:38 | Chutt | yeah, it wasn't to you |
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| 01:40 | Mace68 | But I'm really about ready to build me a MythTV box. Any opinions on vid cap cards and remotes? I won't need a tuner, I have dish network, so I'll have to use the svideo connection for that. |
| 01:41 | ofer | how much cpu you got? |
| 01:41 | mikegrb | 7.3 Ghz |
| 01:41 | Mace68 | Too early to tell :) haven't built it yet |
| 01:42 | ofer | get a pvr of some sort |
| 01:42 | ofer | then you can use a weak cpu |
| 01:42 | ofer | if you design it right, you can run with no fans |
| 01:42 | G-funk|laptop | | mmmm, 7.3 GHz |
| 01:42 | Mace68 | you mean pvr like a tivo or something? |
| 01:43 | ofer | 7.3ghz, that would heat the whole building |
| 01:43 | ofer | Mace68, no, hauppauge pvr 250 or 350 |
| 01:43 | Mace68 | oh, ok.... heh |
| 01:43 | ofer | Mace68, or a dvb if you have access to the digital out of the dish |
| 01:44 | Mace68 | I have a P3 800 box I was considering using as well |
| 01:44 | mikegrb | ofer: he said dish network |
| 01:44 | Mace68 | Yes, I do have the optical going into my onkyo reciever right now |
| 01:44 | ofer | mikegrb, i dont have dish or know anybody with 'em, i just know they're digital =) |
| 01:44 | mikegrb | ofer: american so no dvb |
| 01:45 | ofer | mikegrb, k |
| 01:45 | Chutt | allright, website's done |
| 01:45 | Chutt | fun fun fun |
| 01:45 | Mace68 | what is dvb? |
| 01:46 | Chutt | tomorrow i'll have to start posting to the crappy jobs websites |
| 01:46 | ofer | Mace68, digital tv tuner, recieves the digital broadcast with no analog conversion |
| 01:46 | Mace68 | not available in the us though? bummer. |
| 01:47 | Chutt | thor, did i typo anything on the site? |
| 01:47 | thor_ | heh, didn't a guy who used to work for swarm.com work at relatable, Glen .... what the hell was his last name ... |
| 01:47 | Chutt | [PATCH] Closed Caption fixes |
| 01:47 | Chutt | sweet |
| 01:48 | Chutt | swarm.com? |
| 01:48 | Chutt | doubt it |
| 01:48 | thor_ | hmm |
| 01:48 | Chutt | there's been 7 or 8 total people that worked here |
| 01:48 | thor_ | Sante Fe Institute stuff, |
| 01:48 | thor_ | ah |
| 01:48 | Mace68 | ofer: do the pvr's come with linux-compatible remotes? |
| 01:48 | Chutt | well, maybe one or two more, it's too late to count |
| 01:48 | thor_ | must have it confused with a different company |
| 01:48 | ofer | Mace68, i havent used them, i dunno |
| 01:49 | Mace68 | I guess I could get off my lazy but and go look on their web site too ;) |
| 01:49 | Mace68 | thanks for the suggestions, have a good evening |
| 01:49 | thor_ | no typos that jump out at me |
| 01:49 | Chutt | good |
| 01:49 | Chutt | i fixed a couple after posting it the first time =) |
| 01:50 | Chutt | but didn't see anymore |
| 01:50 | Chutt | thanks =) |
| 01:50 | thor_ | yup |
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| 01:52 | Chutt | ijr@colo:~/mythlogs$ grep Resume access.log | wc -l |
| 01:52 | Chutt | 13 |
| 01:52 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:52 | thor_ | nothing in the plaintext resume, but I guess Word would have caught those |
| 01:52 | Chutt | yeah |
| 01:55 | thor_ | ... thank god you don't have a "Career Goals" or "Hobbies and Activities" section, those make me groan |
| 01:55 | Chutt | filled up two pages, that's more than enough =) |
| 01:56 | thor_ | yup |
| 01:56 | thor_ | I would mention the wired article |
| 01:57 | thor_ | a pet software project is one thing, a project that's been covered by the media is something else |
| 01:57 | Chutt | that wired article is consistantly in the top 5 of links to the website |
| 01:58 | linagee | Chutt: a two page resume? |
| 01:58 | Chutt | yup |
| 01:58 | linagee | Chutt: i thought that was a no-no. |
| 01:58 | Chutt | nope |
| 01:58 | linagee | Chutt: "always condense to one page" |
| 01:58 | mikegrb | linagee: Chutt is so stellar that it is impossible |
| 01:59 | linagee | lol |
| 01:59 | linagee | mikegrb: so only include the most relavent things |
| 01:59 | | * mikegrb hates people that say I'm sorry you are over qualified |
| 01:59 | Chutt | i wanted to have more than a single sentence about mythtv |
| 01:59 | Chutt | and extremely short descriptions of what i've done in my most recent job |
| 02:00 | linagee | ugh |
| 02:00 | linagee | someone made coffee downstairs and it's making my stomach turn |
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| 02:06 | thor_ | Got a job yet? |
| 02:06 | Chutt | no, not yet |
| 02:07 | thor_ | damn |
| 02:07 | Chutt | ijr@colo:~/mythlogs$ grep Resume access.log | wc -l |
| 02:07 | Chutt | 30 |
| 02:07 | thor_ | how 'bout now ? |
| 02:07 | Chutt | hrm, lemme check my email |
| 02:07 | Chutt | nope, not now |
| 02:07 | linagee | thor_: yes, just now. right at this second. lol |
| 02:07 | thor_ | crap |
| 02:08 | linagee | Chutt: do you have unemployment insurance? :) |
| 02:08 | Chutt | hah |
| 02:08 | thor_ | heh |
| 02:11 | G-funk|laptop | | anyone have anyide why i wouldn't see the mythtv word on the left of the gant theme? |
| 02:12 | G-funk|laptop | | or the main, etc...at the top... |
| 02:21 | Chutt | thor, not yet, either |
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| 02:26 | thor_ | damn |
| 02:26 | thor_ | this internet thing sucks |
| 02:27 | Chutt | wait |
| 02:27 | Chutt | actually, someone just sent me a query :p |
| 02:27 | thor_ | heh |
| 02:27 | thor_ | I win the pool ! |
| 02:28 | Chutt | 'course, it's in boise, id. |
| 02:28 | thor_ | good skiing in Idaho |
| 02:28 | thor_ | :-) |
| 02:30 | thor_ | crap state tax rate |
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| 03:14 | knight- | heh |
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| 03:23 | knight- | whats new? |
| 03:35 | knight- | quiet tonight :) |
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| 04:03 | knight- | hey choenig |
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| 04:42 | Omnic | hrm... |
| 04:42 | Omnic | how can I take a snapshot of a frame while watching a recording? |
| 04:45 | knight- | i wanted to do the same thing |
| 04:46 | Omnic | hrmph. doesn't look possible... |
| 04:48 | o_cee | you need to disable Xv |
| 04:48 | o_cee | search the archives |
| 04:50 | Omnic | yeah, thought that'd be it. :/ |
| 04:54 | knight- | you could write some code that saves the frame to disk before it hits Xv |
| 04:54 | knight- | we could probably use that code for MythSecurityCam or whatever |
| 04:55 | Omnic | yeah, I would, if I had time to learn that particular segment of code :P |
| 04:57 | knight- | common excuse :P |
| 05:04 | Omnic | dammit, I can't disable Xv with my nvidia card. |
| 05:06 | Omnic | oh well, bed time. |
| 05:06 | knight- | uhm |
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| 05:33 | knight- | heh |
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| 10:22 | kvandivo | o_cee: looks like ijr committed that change in version 1.120 of mainserver.cpp.. looks like it was "Martin Smith's DVB signal monitor stats patch." |
| 10:22 | o_cee | yeah, i found it.. |
| 10:22 | o_cee | was just hoping he could fix it himself |
| 10:23 | kvandivo | annotate is a wonderful feature of viewcvs for anyone out there that doesn't know it |
| 10:23 | o_cee | ah yeah :) |
| 10:23 | kvandivo | mozilla's bonsai calls it 'blame' or something like that, but the idea is the same |
| 10:23 | o_cee | not using dvb, so i haven't noticed before.. was helping someone and got to see his statuspage with this stuff on it |
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| 10:58 | mikegrb | o_cee: ping |
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| 11:12 | o_cee | mikegrb: pong? food time, ttyl |
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| 11:21 | mikegrb | heh |
| 11:21 | mikegrb | o_cee: was just going to mention your mail client is sending html emails, at least it sends a text version too ;) |
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| 11:50 | o_cee | html emails? nooo? |
| 11:51 | thor_ | now, if they were XHTML compliant, that would be another thing |
| 11:51 | o_cee | heh |
| 11:51 | o_cee | actually i think that's the mailinglist that does odd things? |
| 11:52 | | Mumintrollet | o_cee did you read my mail on the mailinglist, i am begining to wonder if this is not a bug in livetv and not a configuration error |
| 11:53 | o_cee | Mumintrollet: nope, i'm not on -users anymore |
| 11:53 | o_cee | i'll check the arhive |
| 11:53 | | Mumintrollet | ok a copy paste from the bottom then |
| 11:53 | | Mumintrollet | If i switch the master and slave backend by changing the ip in the settings |
| 11:53 | | Mumintrollet | table the problem |
| 11:53 | | Mumintrollet | gets reversed and i can only watch dvb channels, but if i start the slave |
| 11:53 | | Mumintrollet | backend and start |
| 11:53 | | Mumintrollet | livetv on a non dvb channel it will tune to that but it wont be able to |
| 11:53 | | Mumintrollet | change to dvb channels. |
| 11:54 | o_cee | heh, yeah well beats me |
| 11:54 | | Mumintrollet | oh btw when i updated to the latest cvs today my gui offset settings broke |
| 11:55 | | Mumintrollet | no matter what i set it always ends up in the top left corner :) |
| 11:55 | | * kvandivo gasps. |
| 11:58 | o_cee | thor_: you got any cupcakes? |
| 11:58 | thor_ | heh, not at the moment |
| 11:59 | thor_ | cup of coffee around here somewhere ... |
| 12:01 | | Mumintrollet | btw anyone in this channel who has any experience with slave backends ? |
| 12:01 | o_cee | thor_: :/ |
| 12:04 | | * kvandivo giggles at Mumintrollet's question. |
| 12:05 | | * thor_ giggles at his NIC |
| 12:05 | | Mumintrollet | nothing wrong with mumintrolls |
| 12:05 | | Mumintrollet | and not its not that kind of slave :) |
| 12:09 | o_cee | http://www.kalastips.com/images/mumin.jpg <-- mumintrolls |
| 12:09 | | Mumintrollet | yeah i remember taking that picture |
| 12:11 | o_cee | hah |
| 12:11 | Chutt | thor, 'morning |
| 12:11 | thor_ | heh |
| 12:11 | thor_ | more than 12 minutes ? |
| 12:12 | o_cee | Chutt: hiya, gotten any offer get? :) |
| 12:12 | Chutt | just two serious inqueries |
| 12:12 | Chutt | one guy saying 'why don't you sell mythtv machines?' |
| 12:12 | thor_ | heh |
| 12:12 | o_cee | hehe |
| 12:12 | Chutt | and one guy saying 'why don't you sell support for $100 a year?' |
| 12:13 | kvandivo | you aren't considering those your two serious offers, are you? |
| 12:13 | thor_ | oh that would be a dream service |
| 12:13 | Chutt | 'I'd kill to never have to hear "Search the archive" again. Instead you scower the archive, document the answer in the portal and give me a link.' |
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| 12:13 | thor_ | outgoing message, "Welcome to Chutt's mythtv service line, it doesn't work because you're an idiot, now go away" |
| 12:14 | kvandivo | tell him about "google answers" |
| 12:14 | thor_ | "to be insulted in spanish, push 1" |
| 12:14 | Chutt | kvandivo, one would involve moving to boise, id. |
| 12:14 | WodanTJ | I guess you guys never gets presents from santa :) |
| 12:14 | kvandivo | how close to sun valley is that? |
| 12:14 | kvandivo | or do you not ski... |
| 12:14 | Chutt | the other is in maryland, but i wouldn't know if it means a relocation yet |
| 12:14 | thor_ | heh, close by |
| 12:15 | Chutt | so i'm going to tell both that i'm not interested at this point in time |
| 12:15 | thor_ | "to be places in an endless menu loop, push 2" |
| 12:16 | bma | maryland! |
| 12:16 | bma | yay |
| 12:16 | bma | local mythtv support :) |
| 12:16 | thor_ | heh |
| 12:17 | thor_ | faster cvs updates too |
| 12:17 | Chutt | i don't really _want_ to move |
| 12:17 | Chutt | and neither does paula |
| 12:17 | bma | hehe |
| 12:17 | bma | yea |
| 12:17 | o_cee | well if you got two offers in like 12 hours, i'm sure you'll find something pretty soon :) |
| 12:17 | bma | I can understand that. |
| 12:18 | thor_ | 12 hours up, 3 hours in working hours |
| 12:18 | thor_ | I'm still upset my 12 minute prediction didn't pan out |
| 12:19 | o_cee | :/ |
| 12:19 | jams | Chutt, you interested in java jsp/struts? |
| 12:19 | o_cee | here, have a muffin |
| 12:19 | Chutt | haven't used java much |
| 12:20 | kvandivo | writing struts code as we speak... |
| 12:20 | thor_ | "if you'd like someone to come to your home and beat you with a clue stick, push 3" |
| 12:20 | jams | lol |
| 12:20 | Chutt | i'm interested in getting paid for writing some kind of code |
| 12:20 | | * mikegrb gives o_cee a cupcake |
| 12:20 | Chutt | and hopefully it won't be too boring |
| 12:20 | o_cee | mikegrb: thanks.. i needed that one |
| 12:20 | mikegrb | yeah, I saw ;) |
| 12:21 | o_cee | Chutt: you did audio recognition stuff? sounds neat |
| 12:21 | Chutt | it was |
| 12:22 | thor_ | Chutt, none of the background science for any of that came from papers by Glen Ropela (who was at santa fe, and then swarm.com)? |
| 12:22 | Chutt | i have no idea |
| 12:22 | thor_ | hmm, ok |
| 12:24 | o_cee | Chutt: osd menu is working great :) way cool |
| 12:25 | jams | yes i was rather happy about the osd menu, great addition |
| 12:26 | Chutt | needs expanding |
| 12:26 | o_cee | just need to shufle over stuff to it, yeah |
| 12:26 | Chutt | and some code to move it over |
| 12:26 | Chutt | so the one column case is centered in the middle |
| 12:26 | Chutt | etc |
| 12:26 | o_cee | yepp.. |
| 12:26 | o_cee | also exiting with Menu would be nice |
| 12:28 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: you here today? |
| 12:29 | mikegrb | nope |
| 12:29 | mikegrb | but you can have another cupcake |
| 12:29 | o_cee | :\ |
| 12:29 | o_cee | i'm stuffed |
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| 12:37 | o_cee | ordered my first DVD-A today.. :) |
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| 13:36 | o_cee | hehehe |
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| 13:45 | o_cee | wierdest thing just happened with the seektable of a show.. my gf was watching something that was recording, exited it and when she got back it started over from the beginning but it said the recording only was like 3 minutes long (and increasing) and it started from the beginning.. very odd things happening there.. |
| 13:57 | o_cee | maybe i should try that experimental timebase thingie |
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| 13:59 | jams | o_cee, it makes for some interesting audio |
| 14:01 | o_cee | heh |
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| 14:49 | thor_ | stan is in top form today |
| 14:52 | Chutt | heh |
| 14:54 | jams | Chutt, anything change from a code point of view that might cause extra judder ? |
| 14:54 | Chutt | nope |
| 14:54 | thor_ | generic entropy |
| 14:55 | Chutt | video display code's been identical for months |
| 14:55 | kvandivo | wow.. that's actually a word.. supposedly the joining of j(erk) and (sh)udder |
| 14:55 | thor_ | I was thinking bovine dancing |
| 14:56 | jams | hmm cvs seems to have extra judder as compared to .14 well I well keep working on finding the problem |
| 14:56 | jams | thanks |
| 14:56 | thor_ | dance a little jig, shake your udder |
| 14:56 | Chutt | it really hasn't changed at all |
| 14:56 | jams | perhaps it's the higher cpu usage |
| 14:56 | thor_ | or all the cows in there |
| 14:57 | jams | heh |
| 14:57 | | * thor_ will shut up now |
| 14:57 | Chutt | you can always disable the adjust filter to get rid of that |
| 14:57 | kvandivo | fwiw, thor, it made _me_ smile |
| 15:00 | jams | heh i did read how to disable it , but i'm not for sure what it does. Guess I will go look that up. |
| 15:01 | Chutt | just delete the filter |
| 15:01 | thor_ | well, herd it out of the path |
| 15:02 | | * dja wants some of whatever thor is having |
| 15:02 | kvandivo | chocolate milk |
| 15:02 | thor_ | bingo |
| 15:02 | dja | lol |
| 15:02 | kvandivo | shaken.. not stirred |
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| 15:06 | jams | disabling appears to have worked, thanks |
| 15:06 | thor_ | moooch better |
| 15:07 | | * thor_ thinks everyone should just be grateful he's not forcing all his pointless ramblings to begin with the letter "m", "f", and "d" |
| 15:08 | jams | thor_ so when does the bovine theme come out ? |
| 15:12 | thor_ | "You're watching MoooTv" |
| 15:12 | Chutt | hrm |
| 15:12 | thor_ | I'm still working on the swedish chef language translations, unfortunately |
| 15:14 | thor_ | is that a "hrm" as in, "I've just increased perfomance by 750%," or a "hrm" as in, "my mouse odometer seems to be off by 32 pixels"? |
| 15:15 | Chutt | naw, a 'hrm' as in 'how do i tell someone i don't want to relocate right now, but would be more willing to consider it in a few weeks if i don't find anything else' |
| 15:16 | bitbyte | haha |
| 15:16 | thor_ | that sounds about right |
| 15:19 | Chutt | people prefer the .txt resume almost 4:1 |
| 15:19 | Chutt | heh |
| 15:21 | kja | talk about luck; http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=218364 |
| 15:24 | thor_ | the inevitable appears to have happened |
| 15:25 | thor_ | and been cross posted |
| 15:25 | | Mumintrollet | Chutt your are Isaac ? |
| 15:25 | Chutt | yes. |
| 15:25 | | Mumintrollet | ok, im the one with backend dvb problem, hitting y only jumps between the pvr-x50 cards |
| 15:26 | thor_ | heh |
| 15:26 | Chutt | keep hitting it. |
| 15:26 | Octane | hit it harder |
| 15:26 | kvandivo | be honest. say that location is very important and you are evaluating your options and you might get back with them |
| 15:26 | thor_ | you might consider removing it from your keyboard and having a herd of cows stampede over it |
| 15:26 | bitbyte | use a stick |
| 15:26 | Octane | LOL |
| 15:27 | Octane | thor, i find elephants work much, much better |
| 15:27 | | Mumintrollet | can this problem be related to the card being in a slave backend ? |
| 15:27 | Chutt | kvandivo, that's pretty much exactly what i said =) |
| 15:28 | | Mumintrollet | i can move the card in to the masterbackend but its going to be really tight in a pundit so i won't do it unless it is worth a shot |
| 15:28 | Chutt | mumintrollet, source isn't all that complicated, figure it out :p |
| 15:29 | | Mumintrollet | yeah right :) |
| 15:32 | Chutt | try disabling one of the master backend's tuners |
| 15:32 | Chutt | so it only has one |
| 15:36 | | Mumintrollet | no, same problem |
| 15:37 | Chutt | oh well |
| 15:39 | Octane | lol, i love how the first reaction of someone finding out chutt==isaac is here is my problem and not a thank you |
| 15:39 | | Mumintrollet | actually he replied to my mail on the list |
| 15:39 | | Mumintrollet | thought it was easier |
| 15:47 | | Mumintrollet | it does try to switch to the card when pressing Y i get a QUERY_REMOTEENCDER 1[]:[]IS_BUSY in the log file and then it jumps to the nex PVR-x50 card |
| 15:47 | | Mumintrollet | and yes thank you for the help i am actually grateful |
| 15:50 | Chutt | code's in programs/mythbackend/mainserver.cpp |
| 15:50 | Chutt | GetNextFreeRecorder or something like that. |
| 16:13 | hardwir3d | nite |
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| 16:22 | thor_ | Chutt, earmark donations for "The Myth Foundation", have the foundation's first mission to be to support you .... then if you get a job later this afternoon you can use the funds instead to do whatever (e.g. new xmltv format parsing bounty) |
| 16:24 | Chutt | heh |
| 16:24 | thor_ | err, new zap2it |
| 16:25 | kvandivo | i'd try to keep everything non personal, myself... you have _any_ expenses for myth? webhosting, etc? |
| 16:25 | Chutt | yeah, but that's paid through june |
| 16:26 | thor_ | yeah, but you want at least 5 figures before you start worrying about strictly legal entities |
| 16:26 | Chutt | i dunno |
| 16:28 | thor_ | a foundation that hires a developer is a completely sensible proposition |
| 16:29 | kvandivo | if you wanna do the legwork |
| 16:29 | thor_ | heh |
| 16:30 | thor_ | but I'd say just take the small change and have a nice dinner with your better half |
| 16:30 | thor_ | :-) |
| 16:30 | kvandivo | people have an intrinsic fantasy that anything related to linux should be free. i'd be extremely hesitant to put my financial eggs in that particular software basket |
| 16:31 | thor_ | yup |
| 16:31 | thor_ | although no compunction with paying $ for the same thing under windows (hint, hint) |
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| 16:31 | | * kvandivo grins evily. |
| 16:31 | kvandivo | you made him leave! |
| 16:31 | thor_ | he was worried I was going to bring up cows again |
| 16:32 | kvandivo | bovine rock |
| 16:32 | o_cee | thor_: i want the stuff you're taking |
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| 16:32 | thor_ | well, that's sovled then |
| 16:32 | Chutt | stupid X. |
| 16:32 | o_cee | :/ |
| 16:32 | kvandivo | screen |
| 16:32 | Chutt | x-chat :p |
| 16:32 | | * kvandivo shivers uncontrollably. |
| 16:34 | o_cee | bah, seems i'll have to patch that dvb code in mainserver.cpp myself :/ |
| 16:34 | kvandivo | if you want it done right... |
| 16:34 | o_cee | heh, yeah |
| 16:34 | thor_ | ask Chutt to do it |
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| 16:34 | kvandivo | ya.. not like he's got a job to distract him or anything |
| 16:34 | o_cee | i want it done right ;) |
| 16:35 | thor_ | "to have your entrails hauled through your nasal passages, push 4" |
| 16:35 | o_cee | thor_: ooh, i'll go for numero quattro |
| 16:35 | billytwowilly | | it's cuatro I think.. |
| 16:35 | kvandivo | but it's quattro pro |
| 16:36 | billytwowilly | | hmm. This is the problem with joing a conversation in the middle. |
| 16:36 | o_cee | http://spanish.realdictionary.com/english/four.asp gogle is amazing.. billytwowilly is right :) |
| 16:37 | o_cee | Chutt: i've got a 42min recording here claiming it's 4 minutes or so when playing it back in myth.. anything you want to take a look at? |
| 16:37 | Chutt | does it play back ok? |
| 16:37 | billytwowilly | | o_cee, boo, that site is made with asp. -2 points for not finding a spanish site made with php and/or other opensource stuff;) |
| 16:38 | o_cee | Chutt: no, it jumps out when it comes to 4 minutes |
| 16:38 | Chutt | dunno |
| 16:38 | Chutt | how large is it on disk? |
| 16:38 | o_cee | it thinks it's finished |
| 16:38 | o_cee | lemme se |
| 16:38 | o_cee | 1.6gb:) |
| 16:38 | Chutt | ah |
| 16:38 | Chutt | well, i dunno |
| 16:38 | o_cee | no problem for me at least |
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| 16:47 | o_cee | Chutt: i think i found a big nasty bug |
| 16:47 | o_cee | you know the "change channel immideately" thing? |
| 16:47 | Chutt | yeah? |
| 16:47 | o_cee | i think it makes it possible to change channel of what's beeing recorded when watching something in progress |
| 16:48 | Chutt | heh |
| 16:49 | o_cee | all of a sudden this rec turns to another channel (during a comercial break)...... :) |
| 16:49 | jams | hehehe o_cee i just tried it, you are correct |
| 16:49 | o_cee | funny :) |
| 16:50 | o_cee | it would be nice if it switched over to live tv mode tho :) and then something on the osd menu to get back to watch it in progress.. but that's a different story |
| 16:50 | jams | if you stop watching the recording, the channel flips back to the orginal recording |
| 16:51 | jams | i mean orginal channel |
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| 17:00 | o_cee | Chutt: need any more info? you should be able to reproduce it i guess |
| 17:00 | Chutt | eh |
| 17:01 | Chutt | yeah, that's fine |
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| 17:02 | o_cee | oh another thing i noticed.. isn't comflaggins supposed to start if you stop a recording as well? doesn't seem to do that |
| 17:02 | billytwowilly | | Chutt, that wouldn't happen to be your home address that you've put up on the mythtv website would it? |
| 17:02 | Chutt | why yes, it would |
| 17:03 | bitbyte | ut oh |
| 17:03 | Chutt | err, why? |
| 17:03 | billytwowilly | | ok, was just curious if someone hypothetically wanted to send you a donation or a letter bomb or something if it'd get to you. |
| 17:03 | bitbyte | be afraid |
| 17:03 | billytwowilly | | ;) |
| 17:03 | | * bitbyte covers his eyes |
| 17:03 | Chutt | whois mythtv.org |
| 17:04 | Chutt | would also show my address |
| 17:04 | bitbyte | unless you change dit |
| 17:04 | Chutt | same as it would for the past couple years :p |
| 17:04 | bitbyte | hehe |
| 17:04 | | * billytwowill is more paranoid than you;) |
| 17:04 | bitbyte | me too |
| 17:04 | bitbyte | way more |
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| 17:30 | jams | making a new osd theme if pretty fun |
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| 18:07 | o_cee | Chutt: would this be ok to change in programinfo.cpp? |
| 18:07 | o_cee | if (channame != chansign) |
| 18:07 | o_cee | progMap["channel"] = channame + " [" + chansign + "]"; |
| 18:07 | o_cee | else |
| 18:07 | o_cee | progMap["channel"] = channame; |
| 18:07 | o_cee | add i mean |
| 18:08 | o_cee | it's just "progMap["channel"] = channame + " [" + chansign + "]";" now |
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| 18:33 | o_cee | yeah, love those long subjects ;) |
| 18:47 | kja | o_cee, why don't you submit a patch and see? |
| 18:47 | o_cee | i did |
| 18:47 | kja | ah, i'm slow |
| 18:47 | o_cee | :) |
| 18:48 | kja | now i see it.. |
| 18:49 | kja | :) |
| 18:50 | kvandivo | if only there was actually a patch attached |
| 18:59 | o_cee | oh |
| 18:59 | o_cee | maybe that helps too |
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| 19:00 | o_cee | who knew |
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| 19:09 | jams | any plans to include an osd section on the website? |
| 19:09 | o_cee | not that many osds out there |
| 19:10 | jams | well i have about 5, not all of them are up-to-date but they work |
| 19:10 | jams | by have i mean found :) |
| 19:13 | o_cee | sasquatch is nice |
| 19:13 | jams | yep very large though |
| 19:14 | o_cee | yeah but i have large descs |
| 19:14 | o_cee | long |
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| 19:26 | o_cee | heh, how odd.. the same bug was reported to the mailinglist now.. |
| 19:26 | o_cee | i bet it's someone in here taking cred for it |
| 19:30 | o_cee | g'nighty |
| 19:34 | mikegrb | have a current link for sasquatch osd? |
| 19:38 | jams | http://tarek.2y.net/myth/SasQuatch/ theme + osd |
| 19:39 | jams | i don't know about the theme but the osd is nice |
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| 19:58 | mikegrb | jams: thanks |
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| 20:24 | WX | anyone here know about the stretched aspect ratio that mythdvd encodes to |
| 20:24 | WX | ? |
| 20:30 | kja | can't wait till i get my second dvb card, so i can start working on virtal dvb cards without interrupting my primary backend |
| 20:30 | kja | _rkulagow, is the users guide coming together? |
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| 20:32 | kja | WX: guess not, tried in #mythtv-users? |
| 20:34 | kja | there's plenty of time before .15 will hit the shelves, yes? |
| 20:35 | WX | hah |
| 20:35 | | Mumintrollet | kja virtual dvb cards is the possibility to record on multiple channels at once ? |
| 20:36 | kja | yup, on the same mux =) |
| 20:36 | WX | no luck on #mythtv-users. anyone here use mythdvd to rip/encode via xvid? |
| 20:36 | | Mumintrollet | nice |
| 20:37 | kja | Mumintrollet: so you know, my conax cam was unable to decrypt multiple channels at the same time last i've tried, but i've seen on the vdr list that viaaccess does it.. |
| 20:37 | | Mumintrollet | so for once i get an advantage with viaccess |
| 20:38 | | Mumintrollet | mux = frequency on dvb-c ? |
| 20:38 | kja | yup |
| 20:38 | kja | maybe it'll work, maybe not, just have to wait and see ?) |
| 20:39 | | Mumintrollet | out of curiosity will livetv and recording be possible at the same time ? |
| 20:39 | kja | yup, will make sure that only the channels on the mux is available tho |
| 20:39 | | Mumintrollet | that is a pretty cool feature |
| 20:39 | kja | i've ordered a matrix reloaded cam, maybe that'll do it :) |
| 20:40 | | Mumintrollet | i just hope i have two good channels i can use at the same time |
| 20:40 | kja | usually bout six channels on the same mux, so the chance is high.. |
| 20:41 | kja | at least on dvb-s that is, dunno bout dvb-c |
| 20:41 | kja | ? |
| 20:41 | | Mumintrollet | i can check |
| 20:42 | kja | please do |
| 20:42 | | Mumintrollet | about 10-20 with a quick count |
| 20:42 | kja | wow, that must be low q unless bandwith per mux is very high on dvb-c |
| 20:43 | | Mumintrollet | 8 is the lowest i found but there are a 160 channels in total |
| 20:44 | | Mumintrollet | the ones i have are 10-15mbit and usually 720x576 |
| 20:45 | | Mumintrollet | but some of the "imported" channels like cnn have lower resolutions due to ntsc coversion |
| 20:45 | kja | then the bandwith on dvb-c is much higher than that of dvb-s, which is pretty logical, really |
| 20:45 | | Mumintrollet | i will only be happy to help when you need some testing done |
| 20:45 | kja | yea, come from crappy satellites in the us, no point in using high q on low q channels =) |
| 20:46 | kja | sure, i'll remember that! |
| 20:46 | | Mumintrollet | the first one has three channels i subscribe to |
| 20:46 | | Mumintrollet | that should be enough to test :) |
| 20:49 | kja | i'll be hooking my second card up to 13 or 19 east, which each has around 500 channels each, 25-50% of which is free-to-air :) |
| 20:50 | | Mumintrollet | and how many of them are in languages you can understand ? |
| 20:51 | kja | don't need to understand the lang, just need to see a picture :) |
| 20:51 | | Mumintrollet | we are not allowed to mount any external antennas here so dvb-c is my only option |
| 20:52 | kja | but 160 channels should be enough for anyone, right? |
| 20:53 | | Mumintrollet | you can never have enough :) |
| 20:53 | dja_ | anyone tried the new tv_grab_na_dd script? :-) |
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