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| 00:56 | dataworm_ | I am getting a segmentation fault in MythMusic... Is there a know bug around that in 0.14? |
| 00:56 | dataworm_ | It's when I got to Select Music |
| 01:04 | billytwowilly | | heh, probably;) |
| 01:04 | billytwowilly | | if there was no bugs there would be no reason for 0.15;) |
| 01:07 | billytwowilly | | you can always check out the mythtv-dev archives to know for sure |
| 01:08 | dataworm_ | eheh k.. |
| 01:08 | dataworm_ | I am compiling the cvs right now |
| 01:09 | billytwowilly | | cool. It might work, it might not.. it won't talk to a 0.14 box though I think.. which is fine if you are running the frontend and backend on same server. |
| 01:10 | dataworm_ | btw just a idea... it could be nice to integrate a videoconference software to myth... actually I might try to do it once i had finish playing with my setup |
| 01:10 | dataworm_ | I am running both on same box |
| 01:10 | billytwowilly | | then you'll be fine. |
| 01:11 | dataworm_ | no database modification? |
| 01:16 | billytwowilly | | I'm not sure. |
| 01:17 | billytwowilly | | I'm not using cvs. I'm using knoppmyth;) that's on the opposite end of convenience;) |
| 01:17 | billytwowilly | | from cvs;) |
| 01:19 | dataworm_ | how well go knoppmyth? |
| 01:20 | dataworm_ | How does it handle the mysql part? |
| 01:20 | knight- | heh |
| 01:21 | knight- | dataworm, video conferencing would be great |
| 01:23 | billytwowilly | | dataworm_, knoppmyth was really easy. the mysql thing is fine.. it installs on a hard drive and has its own mysql server.. |
| 01:23 | dataworm_ | ah ok... |
| 01:23 | billytwowilly | | took about twenty minutes to setup. |
| 01:24 | dataworm_ | did't know knoppmyth used the HD |
| 01:24 | billytwowilly | | been running steady ever since. |
| 01:24 | dataworm_ | I don't think it would work well for me... |
| 01:24 | dataworm_ | complex setup... |
| 01:24 | dataworm_ | and my next step is going to be DVB-c |
| 01:25 | billytwowilly | | interesting. |
| 01:25 | dataworm_ | SoundBlaster Audigy, X10 ati remote control, HDTV monitor, Technotrend DVB-c, ATI TV Wonder... |
| 01:26 | dataworm_ | Actually I did't get the DVB-c card yet... I am waiting for it |
| 01:26 | dataworm_ | It should arrive tomorow! ( I hope ) |
| 01:26 | billytwowilly | | heh. without the dvb card you pretty much have my setup.. |
| 01:26 | billytwowilly | | including the ati remote wonder |
| 01:26 | dataworm_ | billytwowilly : and it was easy to setup with knoppix? |
| 01:27 | billytwowilly | | yah. |
| 01:27 | dataworm_ | how hard was the HTDV monitor |
| 01:27 | HF|Gamekiller | | how easy is it to confige the ait remote wonder. I have one comeing soon |
| 01:27 | billytwowilly | | I have an nforce2 mobo, so I am using the sound on that |
| 01:27 | dataworm_ | hfb: very easy |
| 01:27 | billytwowilly | | oh, I missed the hdtv monitor, but I imagine easy. |
| 01:27 | dataworm_ | billytwowilly : tricky part of my setup is that it's my main desktop that I use for mythtv |
| 01:28 | billytwowilly | | so you're boned then;) |
| 01:28 | dataworm_ | billytwowilly : It's a 4 Head display setup... Still have some difficulty |
| 01:28 | billytwowilly | | you have to set it up yourself, which isn't that bad really.. it's just easier with knoppmyth if you have dedicated hardware. |
| 01:28 | dataworm_ | The ati driver refuse to work!@$ |
| 01:29 | dataworm_ | billytwowilly : My phase 2 will probably be dedicated hardware |
| 01:29 | billytwowilly | | hmm. I hacked mine up a bit to change what the buttons do so I don't have to use lirc |
| 01:29 | dataworm_ | but I am affraid dedicated small box would miss HD storage space |
| 01:29 | billytwowilly | | plus I had to manually copy the compiled module over to where it was supposed to go.. make install didn't do it for some reason.. |
| 01:29 | dataworm_ | billytwowilly : my ATI driver that refuse to work is the video card |
| 01:29 | billytwowilly | | dataworm_, My eventual setup will be a dedicated myth backend and tiny epia based frontends. |
| 01:29 | dataworm_ | billytwowilly : got to use Vesa |
| 01:30 | billytwowilly | | oh. |
| 01:30 | billytwowilly | | I don't know then. I don't have an ati graphics card. |
| 01:30 | HF|Gamekiller | | i like the epia |
| 01:30 | dataworm_ | billytwowilly : I got 2 video card, each of them are Dual Head |
| 01:30 | billytwowilly | | I have an ati tv wonder tuner card. |
| 01:30 | dataworm_ | 1 Nvidia card and 1 ATI |
| 01:30 | billytwowilly | | that's way too much work;) |
| 01:32 | dataworm_ | billytwowilly what I want to end up doing is a a multi tuner setup with a about 1 tb of storage |
| 01:32 | billytwowilly | | I might end up with that. My eventual setup won't happen for 2-3 years.. |
| 01:32 | knight- | anyone know where the main v4l code is in libmyth/libmythtv? |
| 01:32 | billytwowilly | | by that time there should be 500 gig drives;) |
| 01:33 | knight- | I want to write some code that will save frames |
| 01:33 | dataworm_ | billytwowilly : there should be 500gig drive by next year I guess |
| 01:33 | billytwowilly | | dataworm_, if you want to keep talking about his we should probably move to #mythtv-users |
| 01:33 | billytwowilly | | knight-, asked a devel question;) |
| 01:34 | knight- | indeed :) |
| 01:34 | dataworm_ | billytwowilly : I am about to go sleep |
| 01:34 | dataworm_ | once i figure my mythmusic bug |
| 01:34 | billytwowilly | | ok. g'night then. I'm fiddling around with up dating to mandrake 10 |
| 01:36 | dataworm_ | cool :) |
| 01:36 | knight- | would nuppledecoder.cpp be an appropriate place to tap into any stream's frames? |
| 01:36 | dataworm_ | CVS fixed my bug :) |
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| 01:46 | ofer | heya, can somebody tell me what goes after FILL_PROGRAM_INFO? |
| 01:47 | ofer | i. e. i have a program with some infomration, ,and i want to complete the entry |
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| 01:49 | ofer | so i tried FILL_PROGRAM_INFO []:[]show name[]:[]episode name ... filled all i could using the list in ProgramInfo.FromStringList and left the rest blank (surrounded by tokens) |
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| 01:53 | ofer | i keep getting QDateTime::fromString Parameter out of range problems |
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| 02:16 | ofer | hi |
| 02:17 | ofer | do you know how FILE_PROGRAM_INFO works? |
| 02:17 | ofer | err FILL.... |
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| 04:33 | pigeon | hmm |
| 04:34 | pigeon | for some reasons when i run a 2nd mythfrontend and do video playback, it's trying to use the same xv port |
| 04:39 | pigeon | hmm, oh well |
| 04:39 | pigeon | libmythtv code is not checking whether the XvGrabPort is successful or not. |
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| 08:33 | kja | ofer, what are you using it for? |
| 08:34 | kja | hmm, should have seen that he left |
| 08:40 | mikegrb | nah |
| 08:40 | mikegrb | all the noise of people comming and going all the time |
| 08:40 | mikegrb | to hard to keep track of them all |
| 08:46 | kja | hi mikegrb |
| 08:46 | kja | it's mostly to quiet in here |
| 08:47 | kja | congrats btw! |
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| 08:48 | mikegrb | heh thanks |
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| 10:38 | o_cee | Chutt: you there? |
| 10:42 | o_cee | nevermind, i was confused :) the OSD menu works alot better now after your latest commit, looks very cool. might want to move it a 20px or something to the right tho.. also, i think the arrows indicating more items should be hidden if it doesn't overflow (more items than you can see i mean).. but, very cool :) |
| 10:42 | thor_ | o_cee, what uses it ? |
| 10:42 | thor_ | mythgallery ? |
| 10:43 | o_cee | uhm |
| 10:43 | o_cee | in live tv |
| 10:43 | thor_ | ah, ok |
| 10:43 | o_cee | you get a menu with alternatives for pip, epg and so on |
| 10:43 | thor_ | (just building cvs on something with a tv card in it) |
| 10:43 | o_cee | and in a recording you get "edit recording" so far |
| 10:43 | thor_ | <o_cee> 05/Mar/2004-10:00:40: WARNING: daap client plugin tried to delete an item from a playlist that did not contain the item |
| 10:43 | thor_ | ?? |
| 10:51 | o_cee | yeah |
| 10:52 | o_cee | i dropped all music in itunes |
| 10:52 | o_cee | and mfd got upset |
| 10:52 | o_cee | dropped all local music shared in itunes |
| 10:52 | o_cee | after that, mfd got angry.. and didn't see new things i added in itunes |
| 10:53 | o_cee | Chutt: also, i think the menu should go away if you press Menu again.. |
| 10:54 | thor_ | hmm, ok .. thanks ... I'll try and figure out what it's doing |
| 10:55 | o_cee | thor_: yeah sorry dunno what else to say to help you |
| 10:55 | o_cee | also |
| 10:55 | o_cee | i now have an album in my itunes library |
| 10:55 | o_cee | i see this as a playlist in ufpi |
| 10:55 | o_cee | but the songs aren't availible from itunes (from the mm share) |
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| 10:56 | thor_ | an album you ripped with iTunes ? |
| 10:59 | o_cee | yeah |
| 10:59 | o_cee | thought i could play CD shared in itunes thru mfd, but it didn't show up at all, so i tried adding it and it got ripped instead |
| 11:00 | thor_ | ah, yeah, iTunes does not daap share CD's unless you rip them |
| 11:00 | o_cee | :( |
| 11:00 | o_cee | sucks |
| 11:00 | thor_ | closed source |
| 11:00 | o_cee | strange the ipod doesn't get shared either |
| 11:00 | thor_ | well, it's a file system |
| 11:01 | o_cee | don't tell me it wouldn't be possible :) |
| 11:01 | thor_ | so, in principal, you could write a plugin to look for it as a firwire hotplug and add that |
| 11:01 | thor_ | it's definitely possible |
| 11:02 | thor_ | (although there's the whole NTFS problem) |
| 11:02 | thor_ | but not something I'm going to solve soon |
| 11:02 | o_cee | nah, would only be useful to me to share it on this box with itunes.. ah well :/ |
| 11:03 | thor_ | but you could have another cradle or firewire cord laying around and plugged into a mythbox |
| 11:03 | thor_ | in goes (anyone's) iPod, instant sharing |
| 11:04 | thor_ | so definitely possible, but not high on the list |
| 11:04 | o_cee | yeah.. don't think i got firewire on it tho.. not that expencive to put a card in it tho if you'd fix it ;) |
| 11:04 | o_cee | nope, understand that |
| 11:04 | thor_ | well, usb ... whatever |
| 11:05 | o_cee | does it do usb? ah yeah with an adapter yeah |
| 11:05 | o_cee | haven't got that one tho |
| 11:10 | o_cee | i could share it from here via samba to the mythbox and make mfd share it tho :) maybe.. |
| 11:11 | thor_ | quite possibly |
| 11:11 | o_cee | wouldn't that be possible today? |
| 11:11 | thor_ | I would think so |
| 11:11 | o_cee | that could work |
| 11:12 | thor_ | if Windows sees it as a "real" filesystem device |
| 11:12 | thor_ | yup |
| 11:12 | o_cee | well |
| 11:12 | thor_ | (something that SAMBA can export as a share) |
| 11:12 | o_cee | i'll have to check that up |
| 11:12 | o_cee | not 100% it does it that way |
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| 11:14 | o_cee | and no, of course it doesn't do it that way :/ totally forgot, got it's own stuff going on |
| 11:14 | thor_ | heh |
| 11:14 | o_cee | away, need to make some food, ttyl |
| 11:14 | thor_ | yup |
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| 11:19 | ofer | Hello |
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| 11:32 | ofer | what does FILL_PROGRAM_INFO do? |
| 11:32 | ofer | is it for submitting a program with partial information and mythbackend will return it filled up or something else? |
| 11:34 | Chutt | for something else, of course. |
| 11:34 | Chutt | read the source. |
| 11:34 | ofer | i have |
| 11:34 | ofer | im confused |
| 11:34 | Chutt | so spend more time reading it. |
| 11:34 | ofer | so give me a clue |
| 11:34 | Chutt | no. |
| 11:34 | ofer | im looking in handlefillprogram |
| 11:35 | ofer | and it looks like it takes the program info from the parameter |
| 11:35 | ofer | and does stuff |
| 11:35 | Chutt | it's pretty damn obvious what it does. |
| 11:35 | ofer | then sends the program back |
| 11:35 | ofer | humor me |
| 11:35 | Chutt | if you can't figure it out, you shouldn't be touching that part of the code. |
| 11:36 | ofer | im not, i want to figure out the protocol |
| 11:36 | Chutt | why? |
| 11:36 | ofer | cause i want to interface with mythbackend from my windows myth frontend |
| 11:36 | Chutt | use libmythtv |
| 11:36 | Chutt | that's why it's a library. |
| 11:36 | Chutt | so it can be reused. |
| 11:38 | ofer | i don't want to force QT in windows |
| 11:38 | Chutt | your loss |
| 11:38 | ofer | but that is a clue |
| 11:38 | Chutt | if you can't figure out something that simple |
| 11:38 | Chutt | i doubt your frontend will be worthwhile |
| 11:38 | ofer | wow, thank you so much |
| 11:38 | ofer | http://winmyth.sourceforge.net |
| 11:38 | Chutt | yes, i saw |
| 11:39 | Chutt | and i couldn't figure out why you wouldn't reuse existing code |
| 11:39 | ofer | call it a learning experience |
| 11:39 | ofer | i've never interfaced with an sql database |
| 11:39 | ofer | also, i don't want to force QT |
| 11:39 | Chutt | what's there about forcing qt? |
| 11:39 | ofer | don't want to require people to install QT in windows |
| 11:39 | Chutt | it's free, if you use cygwin |
| 11:40 | ofer | then i'm forcing people to install both cygwin and QT |
| 11:40 | Chutt | so? |
| 11:40 | ofer | as it is i'm only forcing them to install DSMyth |
| 11:40 | Chutt | again, so? |
| 11:41 | Chutt | it's not like installing things is difficult. |
| 11:41 | ofer | just a preference |
| 11:41 | Chutt | so don't ask for help in here, then |
| 11:41 | ofer | you made myth nice and nto dependant on a huge amount of external libraries |
| 11:42 | Chutt | and those libraries that i did use, are all portable to windows |
| 11:42 | ofer | sans the QT library |
| 11:42 | Chutt | someone already did a lot of the gruntwork in starting porting mythfrontend to windows |
| 11:42 | Chutt | if you don't want to reuse that, go right ahead |
| 11:42 | ofer | yeah, but i also wanted one taht was more of an application |
| 11:42 | Chutt | but don't expect me to help you |
| 11:42 | ofer | i'm just asking about the protocol |
| 11:42 | ofer | not some inner workings of the myth backend |
| 11:43 | Chutt | and i'm saying that if you're asking about what a 20 line extremely simple function does |
| 11:43 | ofer | i'm even doing a writeup so future users can just read about it rather than bug you |
| 11:43 | Chutt | you should reevaluate your decisions |
| 11:43 | ofer | wow, your a relativly pessimistic person |
| 11:43 | bitbyte | i'd happily install QT or anything else in windows if it would make it work |
| 11:44 | ofer | ok |
| 11:44 | bitbyte | i feel that the most difficult part of myth is finding hardware that supports the features you want, and it supported in linux. the rest is fairly tricial from what i've seen |
| 11:44 | bitbyte | trivial |
| 11:45 | bitbyte | like i want to use aHarmony remote, but can't find anything about it workign in linux anywhere. a few ppl have asked on the mailing lists, but got no answer |
| 11:45 | bitbyte | that i've been able to find at least |
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| 12:15 | o_cee | ooh, channel 4 here just changed their logo wich the logo detection likes alot more :) |
| 12:25 | kvandivo | _slowly_ recompiling the xbox with debug.. It's be segfaulting on me lately when i exit a recording. typically puts up a message about QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 16 and something about 'Read'.. |
| 12:25 | kvandivo | should be able to debug tonight |
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| 12:28 | mikegrb | odd |
| 12:28 | mikegrb | I haven't seen problems at all with current cvs |
| 12:28 | mikegrb | most stable state it has ever been in for me |
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| 12:31 | kvandivo | don't know what the problem is yet.. and running in debug mode on the xbox is extremely painful, but it is clearly segfaulting, so i'll have to track it down |
| 12:32 | mikegrb | I had an idea to run by you |
| 12:32 | mikegrb | an addition to mythweb |
| 12:32 | mikegrb | the how to do it would be rather simple if not just a bit tedious to implement |
| 12:33 | mikegrb | the code that asks for a png from a recording can ask for a png from a specific time in the recording |
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| 12:33 | mikegrb | using this feature some sort of simple edit mode for mythweb would be nifty |
| 12:34 | mikegrb | for example click a link/button and it grabs the commercial skip points |
| 12:34 | mikegrb | grabs an image from just after each point so you can see if it is the right spot |
| 12:34 | mikegrb | allow you to move the points back and forth or remove one all together |
| 12:34 | mikegrb | and then save as a cutlist |
| 12:35 | mikegrb | not for everyday use but I had a recording to transcode I hadn't even seen myself yet running nuvexport remotely via ssh from work, if I could have marked commericals from work with mythweb that would have saved some transcoding time and a bit of file size |
| 12:36 | mikegrb | dunno how useful such a feature would be to me though |
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| 12:51 | Justin_ | ah, finally figured out my mythweb problem... was using an old conf.php which didn't define generic_date and _time... caling date with "generic_time" makes it generate an interesting string :-) |
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| 13:11 | Chutt | is it the tvinfo.de people that shutdown things for the tv_grab_de grabber a while back? |
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| 13:52 | kja | looks like this was the source that stopped feeding them: http://www.szing.at/xmltv/ |
| 13:52 | kja | dunno where that site got it's data from |
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| 14:19 | Chutt | sfr, hey, was it tvinfo.de that killed off the tv_grab_de grabber? |
| 14:19 | gerhard | hi all, has someone seen this site http://www.dreamux.it, which is selling a HTPC system with mythtv |
| 14:20 | Chutt | yes, that's been posted to the mailing lists before |
| 14:21 | o_cee | Chutt: osd menu is working fine now with your last commit.. :) looking goood |
| 14:21 | sfr | Chutt: no, afaik it was a private site by a guy named Gottfried Szing http://www.szing.at/xmltv/ |
| 14:21 | Chutt | ah |
| 14:21 | Chutt | well, someone from tvinfo.de just emailed me about getting their data working with mythtv |
| 14:22 | sfr | they want to support mythtv or block it? |
| 14:22 | Chutt | support it |
| 14:22 | gerhard | I had a look at the site and I cant see that they mention mythtv or providing the sourcecode. Isnt that a violation of GPL? |
| 14:22 | Chutt | "As we like your Software and will help our users to use it with Tvinfo as an EPG i like to contact you." |
| 14:22 | Chutt | gerhard, nope |
| 14:22 | sfr | cool! i'd even pay a little amount for a good program data source. |
| 14:23 | gerhard | at least I think its plain rude not to mention MYTHTV |
| 14:23 | Chutt | gerhard, not really |
| 14:24 | gerhard | dont you think so? why not |
| 14:24 | Chutt | why would it be? |
| 14:25 | gerhard | they take some other work sell it which is fine and within the GPL I just think it would be a decent thing to do |
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| 14:31 | Slaytanic | Chutt: Any idea about when 0.15 will be released? |
| 14:32 | Chutt | nope |
| 14:33 | Slaytanic | Out of curiousity... What is it that makes you decide to release the current CVS as a new version? |
| 14:33 | Chutt | when i think it's ready |
| 14:33 | Slaytanic | Ah... The id software slogan. ;) |
| 14:34 | bma | after he gets a job |
| 14:34 | Chutt | bah |
| 14:35 | Chutt | i'm still getting paid a bit |
| 14:36 | Slaytanic | Maybe you should consider opening up a paypal account and asking for donations... (if you haven't already) I bet there's a lot of Myth users that would gladly donate some bucks in return for using such a good product. |
| 14:37 | Chutt | yeah, but that'd most likely just be pocket change |
| 14:37 | sfr | people are crazy. 700 mails in one week on mythtv-users |
| 14:37 | Slaytanic | I'm not so sure... You could get a couple of hundred USD, maybe a month... |
| 14:37 | Chutt | as i said, pocket change |
| 14:37 | Chutt | :p |
| 14:37 | bma | savechutt.com |
| 14:38 | sfr | freechutt.org ;) |
| 14:38 | Chutt | can't really do anything with a couple hundred dollars |
| 14:38 | Slaytanic | freeasinbeerchutt.org :) |
| 14:38 | Slaytanic | I have no idea about your situation - what do you need? Are you unemployed? |
| 14:39 | Chutt | unemployed as of this week |
| 14:39 | sfr | start adding features to mythtv for money |
| 14:39 | Chutt | i've had 3 people send emails about doing stuff like that in the past week or so |
| 14:39 | Slaytanic | Oh, sorry to hear that. I'm also unemployed right now, but I'm receiving financial support from my former employee for another 12 months... I was lucky. |
| 14:39 | Chutt | so i've said 'sure, depending on what you want' :) |
| 14:41 | Slaytanic | What feature would you like to do, if you got paid for doing it? |
| 14:41 | Chutt | wouldn't matter to me, really |
| 14:41 | Slaytanic | Anything you miss personally? That you haven't had time or energy to fix? |
| 14:42 | Chutt | not really, no |
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| 15:19 | rkulagow | chutt: feel free to send me any paypal donations you get and don't want. :) |
| 15:24 | Chang_ | chutt: Are you accepting donations? I've been a happy user since 0.7 and I'd be glad to throw some cash your way |
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| 15:41 | thor_ | rkulagow, any progress from O'Reilly ? |
| 15:41 | rkulagow | haven't heard from them. |
| 15:42 | thor_ | almost time to call in Morph? |
| 15:42 | thor_ | or has it been less than a week? |
| 15:42 | rkulagow | writing the user guide anyways. bruce sent in an update on the duplicates and the new scheduler. |
| 15:42 | rkulagow | i think it's been less than a week. let me check. |
| 15:43 | rkulagow | mailed it to laurie on 2004-03-01 @ 18:35. so, less than a week. |
| 15:43 | thor_ | ah, right |
| 15:44 | thor_ | well, O'Reilly seems to have no problem with GNU doc license in any case :-) |
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| 15:44 | thor_ | (or however you were planning on licensing it) |
| 15:45 | rkulagow | i switched back to linuxdoc, since i love the purity of editing with "joe". (fingers are hardcoded for wordstar. sign of a misspent youth( |
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| 15:45 | thor_ | joe |
| 15:45 | thor_ | yes! |
| 15:45 | WodanTJ | vim is teh win |
| 15:45 | Chutt | stupid X. |
| 15:45 | thor_ | how goes OSD uischtuff ? |
| 15:46 | Chutt | workin pretty well, now that i fixed that thread safety issue last night |
| 15:47 | thor_ | QPainter |
| 15:47 | thor_ | right |
| 15:47 | Chutt | to draw the gradients for the menu stuff |
| 15:47 | thor_ | that might be the occasional segfault in mythmusic as well ... if the viz updating is being done off the audio decoding thread |
| 15:48 | thor_ | (can't recall, it will change anyway) |
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| 15:48 | Chutt | naw, that's locked properly |
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| 15:48 | Chutt | least i'm pretty sure it is |
| 15:48 | thor_ | heh |
| 15:49 | thor_ | anyway, _almost_ at the point of doing the player rewrite |
| 15:49 | Chutt | cool. |
| 15:50 | thor_ | just sorting out the mfd client library updating of metadata from anywhere and everywhere, then it's off to the races |
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| 15:54 | thor_ | heh, I'll never learn |
| 15:54 | thor_ | ++it; |
| 15:54 | thor_ | makes it much easier to get out of an iteration loop |
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| 17:17 | glock | Could anyone please help me with a prob i'm having. New to mythtv. I am in South Africa, and I dont have a video source. I leave it empty in the setup. I also cant bind any channel to it. I downloaded a local .xml file of the channel information and use mythfilldatabase --file notsurewhatgoeshere -1 file.xml. mythbackend tells me Error getting inputs for the capturecard. Perhaps you have |
| 17:17 | glock | forgotten to bind video sources to your card's inputs? Any ideas? |
| 17:22 | o_cee | Chutt: you saw my little comment on the osd menu? |
| 17:36 | o_cee | leeeets try to get my translation stuff upto sync... |
| 17:36 | o_cee | thor_: does mfd get angry if i just ctrl+c it instead of mfdctl stop it? |
| 17:37 | thor_ | well |
| 17:38 | thor_ | other stuff doesn't know it's gone away |
| 17:38 | thor_ | so iTunes will (sometimes) get pissed |
| 17:38 | o_cee | k |
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| 17:41 | o_cee | time to finish up this translation stuff now. dead tired, so there will be fun translations for everyone |
| 17:43 | o_cee | isn't the mythnews guy here? can't remember his name |
| 17:44 | kvandivo | pahli? |
| 17:44 | o_cee | yeah |
| 17:44 | sfr | bar? or was it pub? |
| 17:44 | o_cee | he's been hiding |
| 17:44 | thor_ | burp |
| 17:45 | o_cee | would be better, in mythgallery, to make rotate expand.. like: Rotate -> {CCW; CW} would make it easier to translate stuff, can't find such short translations as it's needed now |
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| 18:08 | kja | damn, that seq_header patch was a no go... |
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| 18:11 | kja | hi o_cee |
| 18:11 | o_cee | hey |
| 18:12 | o_cee | wrong button ;) |
| 18:13 | kja | ups |
| 18:13 | o_cee | yepp |
| 18:13 | o_cee | "Unable to create AudioOutput." <-- got any good translation for that kja? |
| 18:15 | kja | hmm, in swedish? |
| 18:15 | o_cee | yeah :) |
| 18:16 | kja | ljuddrivaren skapaded et problem under laddning. |
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| 18:16 | kja | ? |
| 18:17 | o_cee | hmm, kanske något sådant ja |
| 18:17 | o_cee | ops sorry |
| 18:17 | o_cee | "Inte möjligt att skapa ljudenhet." |
| 18:17 | kja | :) |
| 18:17 | Slaytanic | Den är bra |
| 18:18 | o_cee | good enough |
| 18:18 | kja | aha, if you add that it's mythtv's sound driver, maybe we're getting somewhere |
| 18:18 | o_cee | it is the message you get if you haven't setup your audio right? |
| 18:20 | Slaytanic | glock: Looks like you forgot to specify the number of your input in that example... |
| 18:20 | kja | nope, it's the error you get if the audiobase can't create a audiooutput class (iirc) |
| 18:20 | o_cee | kja: what's the difference? |
| 18:21 | kja | if you say audiodevice=/dev/nonexistent to mythtv you'll get a different warning with the system error message included |
| 18:22 | o_cee | ah |
| 18:22 | kja | if you say audiodevice=ALSA:hw and alsa is not compiled in you get the above error message |
| 18:22 | o_cee | ok, great |
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| 18:39 | kja | so you're doing translation work on a friday night o_cee? |
| 18:39 | o_cee | kja: heh, yeah |
| 18:39 | o_cee | how sad is that |
| 18:40 | kja | hmm, your girlfriend asleep? |
| 18:40 | o_cee | yeah |
| 18:40 | o_cee | fell asleep at 9 :) |
| 18:42 | kja | slightly boring |
| 18:43 | o_cee | you can't imagine.. |
| 18:43 | kja | actually that's quite true, i can't |
| 18:43 | kja | how sad is that? |
| 18:43 | o_cee | don't know wich is worst |
| 18:44 | kja | ups, did something terribly wrong in my size calc |
| 18:44 | o_cee | well at least you found it ;) |
| 18:44 | jams | o_cee, the future oreily book should cure all users setup troubles right ? :) |
| 18:45 | o_cee | right ;) |
| 18:46 | kja | hmm, are we serious about that book thing? |
| 18:46 | o_cee | kja: did you see my case pics? |
| 18:46 | o_cee | kja: i think kvandivo is |
| 18:46 | kja | yeah, sweet'n'woody |
| 18:46 | o_cee | kja: btw, that guy with the dvb problem, he solved it.. think he had a channel without a name or something stupid like that |
| 18:46 | o_cee | :) |
| 18:47 | kja | you know, you should have debian woody installed on that box :) |
| 18:47 | kja | noticed he thanked you for helping him |
| 18:47 | o_cee | hah, nooo, it's my sweet little dragon |
| 18:47 | kja | :) |
| 18:47 | o_cee | hahah, yeah ;) |
| 18:47 | kja | brb |
| 18:50 | kja | ah well, debian has it's problems too, your on gentoo right? |
| 18:51 | o_cee | yeah |
| 18:52 | kja | hmm, i must be totally wasted, i actually managed to invert a & mask |
| 18:54 | kja | running distcc o_cee? |
| 18:54 | o_cee | nope |
| 18:54 | kja | hmm, how do you manage? |
| 18:54 | o_cee | to? |
| 18:55 | o_cee | my mythbox is the fastest computer i've got :) |
| 18:55 | kja | to hold your breath while gentto is compiling stuff |
| 18:56 | o_cee | usually do it by night ;) |
| 18:58 | kja | ahh, that's nice, sad if you needed the upgrade like yesterday thought ;) |
| 18:59 | | * kja asks: is 0x81 & 0x3 > 0? |
| 18:59 | o_cee | heh, yeh |
| 18:59 | o_cee | don't ask me :) |
| 19:02 | | * kja should quit drinking and doing this... |
| 19:03 | o_cee | naah |
| 19:03 | kja | u think? |
| 19:04 | o_cee | not sure |
| 19:08 | kja | when you start writing: if(int i=0;i<5;i++)? |
| 19:09 | o_cee | that's perfectly fine |
| 19:09 | o_cee | :) |
| 19:12 | kja | hmm, why can't i find a new startcode after the seq_header in avfd.cpp? |
| 19:14 | kja | it's definatly because of my drunken behaviour, caus i'm printing the header from start to end+ |
| 19:14 | kja | not should be in there |
| 19:15 | kja | ;) |
| 19:15 | o_cee | hehehe |
| 19:16 | kja | sent from above ;) |
| 19:16 | kja | :p |
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| 19:17 | kja | ahaha |
| 19:18 | o_cee | dope |
| 19:19 | o_cee | baaaaad for yo |
| 19:19 | kja | found the seq_header, my interpetation of the mpeg specs where wrong |
| 19:19 | kja | :( |
| 19:19 | o_cee | well, doh |
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| 19:22 | kvandivo | ~/me looks around. |
| 19:22 | kvandivo | what am I serious about? |
| 19:23 | o_cee | writing a book |
| 19:24 | | * mikegrb shoots kvandivo in the toe |
| 19:24 | mikegrb | oops, sorry |
| 19:24 | kja | hehe |
| 19:24 | | * mikegrb gives kvandivo a bandaid |
| 19:24 | kja | lol |
| 19:36 | | * kja thought kvandivo was about to argue his point, but guess he was rushed of to the emergency room.. |
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| 19:39 | o_cee | anyone got a good grip on the new shceduler? |
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| 19:42 | kja | how so? i've used it for the last working week with no major faults |
| 19:42 | o_cee | the option to.. |
| 19:42 | o_cee | move higher prios |
| 19:42 | o_cee | i don't see the point with it |
| 19:43 | kja | why not, if the show with lower pri would have been excluded? |
| 19:43 | o_cee | so it's not a global setting? |
| 19:43 | o_cee | just seeing the translated strings here atm ;) |
| 19:44 | kja | woot? |
| 19:44 | o_cee | i'd excpect the override to do that kind of thing? not as a global setting that to me inverts the logic? |
| 19:45 | kja | it makes sense to do it automagically, no? |
| 19:46 | o_cee | i don't see the logic at all, why'd you want to invert the prios? |
| 19:47 | kja | the show with lower priority would not be recorded at all, |
| 19:47 | kja | that means loosing a show...better record the hier pri at a different time if available... |
| 19:47 | kja | dunno what the problem is, really? |
| 19:48 | o_cee | oh.. but if it can't reshedule the higher prio then? it doesn't do it.. but the problem is _if_ the schedule changes.. got it now |
| 19:49 | kja | hu?, you experienced that? |
| 19:49 | o_cee | no but that's the risk |
| 19:49 | kja | no! |
| 19:49 | o_cee | so it prioritizes to record all shows instead of recording higher shows asap |
| 19:49 | o_cee | no? |
| 19:50 | kja | yup, that's how i get it |
| 19:50 | o_cee | problem is if the higher show that got rescheduled dissapears you'll of course not be able to record it.. (and you did have the chance to do it before) |
| 19:51 | kja | that would be true, and no way of foresee |
| 19:51 | o_cee | yepp |
| 19:51 | kja | you probably should mention that to david |
| 19:51 | o_cee | but if you don't use the feature you would have recorded your high prio show |
| 19:51 | o_cee | it says so in the help, but it's kinda fuzzy |
| 19:51 | o_cee | and hard to explain on two lines |
| 19:52 | kja | have not read the gelp actually |
| 19:52 | kja | read the list tho (mostly) |
| 19:52 | kja | but didn't bruce submit a update on the functions of the scheduler? |
| 19:53 | o_cee | not that i've seen |
| 19:53 | kja | hmm |
| 19:53 | o_cee | yeah sure some docs, but not to the source i think |
| 19:53 | o_cee | for the helptext in the settings |
| 19:53 | o_cee | won't be any probs when it's in the docs i guess |
| 19:54 | kja | but the fact that this _can_ occur should be mentioned somewhere nevertheless |
| 19:54 | kja | bah, i'm rambling |
| 19:55 | o_cee | yeah, it should |
| 19:55 | o_cee | kvandivo: you taking notes? ;) |
| 19:55 | o_cee | and rkulagow |
| 19:55 | o_cee | blergh |
| 19:55 | o_cee | to late |
| 19:56 | o_cee | kja: what're you drinking? going to my uhm.. brothers sons 10year birthday tomorrow, so i didn't want to drink today, will drive a long way tomorrow, heh |
| 19:56 | o_cee | blerargh |
| 19:56 | o_cee | uh? |
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| 19:59 | kja | red wine mostly, and some home brew |
| 20:00 | kja | just relaxing |
| 20:00 | o_cee | yummie |
| 20:00 | kja | i'm going out driving tomorrow too, but that's about 20hours till |
| 20:01 | o_cee | how'd you translate "Conflicting" ? |
| 20:02 | kja | dunno |
| 20:02 | kja | :) |
| 20:02 | o_cee | think i used "Kollision" |
| 20:02 | o_cee | ah that'll do |
| 20:02 | kja | naw, that's to rough, ai'nt it? |
| 20:03 | o_cee | "Motstridande" then? |
| 20:03 | o_cee | heh, can't find a good work for it |
| 20:03 | kja | yea, sounds better |
| 20:03 | o_cee | have to see where it's actually used |
| 20:04 | kja | that's a good point :) |
| 20:04 | o_cee | :) |
| 20:06 | kja | Chutt, around? |
| 20:06 | o_cee | a real pita that most strings is in the same group thingie.. all stuff's mixed |
| 20:07 | kja | yeah, it kinda munges it all together ;) |
| 20:07 | kja | no point in translating the same word twice, right? |
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| 20:08 | o_cee | most of the time, no |
| 20:08 | o_cee | 709 strings in QObject :) |
| 20:13 | kja | i must try that translation stuff sometime, since no other norwegian could care less... |
| 20:14 | o_cee | :/ |
| 20:14 | o_cee | 131K Mar 6 02:14 mythfrontend_sv.ts_20040306.diff |
| 20:14 | o_cee | bigass diff :) |
| 20:14 | kja | tried -d? |
| 20:15 | o_cee | what does it do? just did -u |
| 20:16 | kja | check diff --help, same as --minimal |
| 20:16 | o_cee | Updating 'mythfrontend_sv.qm'... |
| 20:16 | o_cee | 851 finished, 3 unfinished and 124 untranslated messages |
| 20:16 | o_cee | oh cool, i'll try it |
| 20:17 | o_cee | exact same size :/ i'll just gzip it |
| 20:19 | kja | :( |
| 20:22 | kja | bzip2 is better ain't it? |
| 20:23 | o_cee | blergh |
| 20:23 | o_cee | got it below 40k at least :) |
| 20:24 | kja | multiply that with ~800-900 and imagine the size of your email... |
| 20:26 | o_cee | 4kb difference.. have to remember it the next time |
| 20:26 | o_cee | i'd alrady pressed send |
| 20:27 | kja | did you use -9 as a parameter to bzip2? |
| 20:27 | | * kja is way offtopic |
| 20:28 | o_cee | heh, no |
| 20:29 | o_cee | And --best merely selects |
| 20:29 | o_cee | the default behaviour. |
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| 20:32 | kja | --best alias for -9 |
| 20:33 | kja | is what mine said |
| 20:33 | o_cee | yeah |
| 20:33 | o_cee | says it's already the default behaviour |
| 20:34 | kja | hmm, still don't follow |
| 20:35 | o_cee | you asked if i used -9, and my manpage says that -9 is the standard behaviour |
| 20:35 | kja | ohh |
| 20:35 | kja | was that what you where getting to |
| 20:36 | o_cee | heh, gettin late |
| 20:37 | kja | point beeing that such a big attachement should be linked to |
| 20:39 | o_cee | if there's a 40kb size limit, that should be the limit imo |
| 20:39 | o_cee | this was half the size |
| 20:41 | kja | still, your sending ~20MB on a already overloaded server |
| 20:41 | o_cee | true |
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