| --- | Log | opened Tue Mar 02 00:00:35 2004 |
| --- | Day | changed Tue Mar 02 2004 |
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| 00:11 | DJ_Rican | how do i prevent screen blanking? |
| 00:12 | thor_ | man xset |
| 00:12 | DJ_Rican | xset? |
| 00:12 | ofer | xset -dpms |
| 00:12 | DJ_Rican | that's it... dpms.... thx |
| 00:24 | dataworm | 1280x720 |
| 00:25 | thor_ | 921,600 |
| 00:26 | dataworm | banyan : what is your TV hooked to? DVI port? |
| 00:26 | | * thor_ is waiting for, "sorry, wrong window" |
| 00:30 | dataworm | eheh yea sorry wrong window |
| 00:30 | thor_ | heh |
| 00:31 | dataworm | did't realise at first... confusion for been on both #mythtv and #mythtv-users |
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| 00:32 | dataworm | What would be the recommanded commercial IR Dongle for to Transmit IR to my Cable TV setupbox? |
| 00:34 | mechou | I think that depends on your cable box, more specifically, what IR carrier frequency/protocol it uses........ |
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| 00:35 | mechou | you don't have a cable box that has a serial port? |
| 00:35 | dataworm | no i don't |
| 00:36 | dataworm | I got a Scientific Atlanta Exporer 2200 or something like that |
| 00:36 | mechou | IR control of cable box is iffy at best. |
| 00:37 | mechou | what (brand) remote control does the cable box come with? |
| 00:37 | dataworm | mechou good question |
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| 00:37 | mechou | dataworm: hmm?? why? |
| 00:37 | Chutt | thor, what was so annoying about itunes earlier? |
| 00:38 | dataworm | hum it's a scientific atlanta remote |
| 00:39 | dataworm | http://www.replacementremotes.com/store/proddetail.cfm?productid=3295&CategoryID=83 |
| 00:39 | thor_ | Chutt, they just made up an extra header that was clearly an MD5 of the http GET request |
| 00:39 | mechou | dataworm: na, that's just the name SA put on it. It got manufactured by someone else |
| 00:39 | Chutt | ah |
| 00:40 | thor_ | with some extra crap thrown in (apparently) |
| 00:40 | Chutt | heh |
| 00:40 | thor_ | textbook "security" through obscurity |
| 00:40 | Chutt | you figured it out? |
| 00:40 | thor_ | nope |
| 00:40 | thor_ | libopendaap did |
| 00:40 | Chutt | get the opendaap guy to figure it out? =) |
| 00:40 | Chutt | heh |
| 00:41 | thor_ | but it's clearly a DMCA violation |
| 00:41 | thor_ | well, not "clearly" |
| 00:41 | thor_ | but arguably |
| 00:41 | dataworm | well that where the modem # bring me... |
| 00:41 | thor_ | that's why I did the dynamic load stuff instead of just copying in the hashingd algorithm |
| 00:41 | Chutt | yeah |
| 00:42 | Chutt | good thinking :p |
| 00:42 | dataworm | Oh well I'll just put that on the hold as I wait my DVB-c card it probably gonna fix the issue |
| 00:42 | thor_ | heh |
| 00:42 | thor_ | last thing we need is you getting annoying C&D's |
| 00:42 | Chutt | a c&d got me my first job |
| 00:42 | thor_ | heh |
| 00:42 | mechou | dataworm, you have a learning remote by any chance? |
| 00:43 | Chutt | well, first programming job |
| 00:43 | thor_ | well, if you _want_ C&D's, we can put it in |
| 00:43 | thor_ | :-) |
| 00:43 | Chutt | naw |
| 00:43 | dataworm | mechou : yea it is |
| 00:43 | Chutt | best to play it safe |
| 00:43 | dataworm | mechou : Well I think... did't really programed it |
| 00:43 | thor_ | be very interesting to see if Apple raises a stink at some point |
| 00:44 | mechou | dataworm, I'm not talking about the SA remote. I'm talking like a learning remote like ones you get at radio shack.... |
| 00:44 | dataworm | mechou : But i don't see in what it affect the choice of a IR Transmiter |
| 00:44 | Chutt | didn't they put out the libs in the first place? |
| 00:44 | thor_ | Rendezvous libs |
| 00:44 | thor_ | not daap |
| 00:44 | Chutt | ah |
| 00:44 | dataworm | mechou : Oh that... No I don't... well I got PDA |
| 00:44 | thor_ | search of daap on apple.com reveals nada |
| 00:44 | dataworm | But I don't understand where you want to go? |
| 00:45 | mechou | dataworm: the IR receiver in SA settop responds only to certain IR frequency. We need to find out what that is. |
| 00:46 | dataworm | IR Transmiter are limited to some frequency? |
| 00:46 | mechou | If a "generic learning remote" works on the SA box, then most likely the frequeny is 38khz.... |
| 00:47 | mechou | dataworm: yes, look it up on remotecentral.com |
| 00:47 | dataworm | Then mechou if it's a generic one what do I buy |
| 00:47 | mechou | receivers too.... |
| 00:47 | dataworm | I think i alwredy setted my PocketPC to control that setupbox but i don't recall well |
| 00:48 | mechou | is ur pocket pc controlling settop via tcp/ip?? |
| 00:48 | dataworm | mechou : no IRDA |
| 00:49 | mechou | dataworm: IRDA is not meant for IR remote control. Surprised that it works at all.... |
| 00:49 | dataworm | when I say setupbox i mean the CableTV box not the MythTV box |
| 00:49 | dataworm | mechou : All my Palm and WinCE PDA had alwais done great remote control |
| 00:49 | dataworm | mechou : they got tons of software to do it |
| 00:50 | dataworm | Ipaq even come with bundled with a Universal remote control software |
| 00:50 | mechou | yeah, maybe if you're 2 ft in front of the IR receiver. |
| 00:50 | dataworm | They just make expensive Remote control when you let it fall on the floor ;) |
| 00:50 | mechou | any farther than that you're hosed. |
| 00:51 | dataworm | mechou : No trust me... we been controling Sattelite box from more than 25" |
| 00:51 | mechou | then it's not using IRDA. |
| 00:51 | dataworm | was a bit tricky... but to change the TV station in a bar is alwais worth it :) |
| 00:52 | mechou | well, beats me. IRDA has the "wrong" modulation and pulse width. |
| 00:52 | mechou | guess I don't know what I'm talking about :) |
| 00:52 | dataworm | well might be using more than just IRDA but my PDA is IRDA... I use it with my IRDA JetEye dongle and with my laptop |
| 00:53 | dataworm | mechou : I read stuff in the same direction as you said when I read Lirc documentation |
| 00:53 | dataworm | But I don't understand those limitation too mutch |
| 00:53 | dataworm | + it been done for a while with PDA |
| 00:53 | mechou | dataworm: only if you get extra HW is my understanding..... |
| 00:54 | dataworm | ? |
| 00:54 | mechou | a little IRDA to IR transceiver..... |
| 00:54 | dataworm | mechou : they probably do in all the PDA |
| 00:54 | dataworm | I don't know |
| 00:55 | mechou | basically HW that "converts" IRDA so that it becomes "pure" IR..... |
| 00:56 | dataworm | mechou : personally I think PDA are put IR controled 100% by software to do more complex IR stuff |
| 00:56 | mechou | dataworm: well, I havent followed PDAs much, mabe they all come with IR tranceivers now, who knows..... |
| 00:56 | dataworm | mechou : I was doing it on my Palm III about 4 year ago |
| 00:57 | dataworm | mechou the website you listed even have a PDA/HPC Remote Control Forum |
| 00:57 | mechou | dataworm: a year or two when I last looked into this PDA's still only used IRDA HW==not suitable.... |
| 00:57 | dataworm | I would say they are't as good as normal remote but they still do the job |
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| 00:58 | dataworm | it just less spread |
| 00:58 | dataworm | you you have to point better |
| 00:58 | mechou | no, it's a crapshhot. |
| 00:58 | mechou | crapshoot. |
| 00:58 | dataworm | ? |
| 00:59 | mechou | I want reliable HW, not some crap that doesn't work most of the time :) |
| 01:00 | mechou | doing IR with IRDA, you might as well forget about it. |
| 01:00 | mechou | its not impossible, but I don't want to troubleshoot IRDA problems with IR..... |
| 01:01 | dataworm | yea... I just use that on my PDA from time to time, I don't use that when I got the remote ;) |
| 01:01 | dataworm | mechou : it it work at 1 inch , I would be happy |
| 01:01 | mechou | bah, you are on your own :) |
| 01:01 | dataworm | ehehe Could just put the Serial dongle in front of the cablebox |
| 01:02 | dataworm | mechou ; IF i only knew witch IRDA Transmiter to buy |
| 01:02 | mechou | I thought your settop box doesnt have a serial port? |
| 01:03 | dataworm | mechou : my PC have one... does't the cable settop only need IRDA? |
| 01:03 | mechou | dataworm: no, the point I'm making is you *need* an IR transmitter, not IRDA |
| 01:03 | dataworm | Sorry... IR Transmitter |
| 01:03 | dataworm | eheh I am used to the IRDA term sorry ;) |
| 01:06 | dataworm | So witch IR Transmiter i need to buy? and if there is more than 1 i'll just buy all those I need to make sure it work... I mean if the 38khz does't work then I'll pass to a other one, but i am sure that IR receiver is standart |
| 01:07 | dataworm | hum I did program some functionality on my main TV remote, so it must be standart... there is some standart code for my cablebox |
| 01:08 | mechou | ok, that's a good start |
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| 01:10 | Chutt | do de do de do |
| 01:10 | mechou | hmm?? |
| 01:10 | ofer | strangers ini the night |
| 01:10 | rkulagow | chutt: are you drunk (again?) |
| 01:10 | ofer | you never heard it? |
| 01:10 | mechou | are the cops here? :) |
| 01:12 | rkulagow | i was feeling froggy, and i think i've got an "mute left / mute right / mute both" thing ready to go for all them crazy foreigners that put language "1" on one stereo channel and language "2" on the other one. silly people |
| 01:13 | Chutt | nope |
| 01:13 | Chutt | cool. |
| 01:13 | mechou | dataworm: look into uirt2. Not really "commercial," but you can get ones pre-made, and therei is lirc (cvs) support. I think it's around $30. |
| 01:13 | pigeon | hmm, how does qsocket stuff work over lan? |
| 01:14 | mechou | dataworm: works off your usb port off your pc..... |
| 01:15 | dataworm | thanks for the info |
| 01:16 | dataworm | have any idea from where I can buy one? |
| 01:17 | thor_ | Chutt, go write some code already |
| 01:17 | Chutt | i'm committing patches |
| 01:17 | thor_ | heh |
| 01:17 | mechou | dataworm: google |
| 01:17 | Chutt | so i can't |
| 01:17 | Chutt | ok |
| 01:17 | thor_ | bah |
| 01:17 | Chutt | japanese filldatabase patch |
| 01:17 | dataworm | yea that what I do right now... but even google does't seem to know any good place |
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| 01:17 | Chutt | introduces a field to the programinfo struct called 'title_readstr' |
| 01:17 | thor_ | hmm, fills database from right to left, top to bottom? |
| 01:17 | mechou | dataworm: hmm??? |
| 01:17 | Chutt | which is how the title is supposed to be pronounced |
| 01:18 | mechou | dataworm: google "uirt2" |
| 01:18 | Chutt | but not displayed |
| 01:18 | Chutt | that's not a very good name for the field, though |
| 01:18 | Chutt | any ideas on an alternative? |
| 01:18 | thor_ | pronounce |
| 01:20 | Chutt | yeah, but something shorter? |
| 01:20 | thor_ | say |
| 01:20 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:20 | thor_ | heh, if it was me, it would be title_should_be_pronounced_as |
| 01:21 | Chutt | ah well |
| 01:21 | Chutt | i'll just use title_pronounce |
| 01:22 | mechou | hey Chutt, does bjm and david lengel hang out on this channel, and if so, what are their handles? |
| 01:22 | Chutt | no, they don't |
| 01:23 | mechou | Chutt: bah :( |
| 01:23 | thor_ | heh, I think I fixed it |
| 01:25 | thor_ | righteous |
| 01:25 | thor_ | fiddle with playlists in iTunes, propagates along to all mfds |
| 01:26 | thor_ | oops |
| 01:26 | thor_ | doesn't like deletions |
| 01:29 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:29 | pigeon | how does the mythfrontend interact with the mythbackend during a playback, in terms of network? |
| 01:29 | Chutt | magic. |
| 01:29 | mechou | hehe.... |
| 01:29 | thor_ | telekinesis |
| 01:29 | ofer | pixie dust |
| 01:30 | pigeon | Chutt: I'd like to know more about the magic ;) |
| 01:30 | Chutt | so look at the source. |
| 01:30 | mechou | thru the ether..... |
| 01:30 | rkulagow | transbogons. |
| 01:30 | pigeon | hmm |
| 01:30 | thor_ | moral persuasion .... |
| 01:30 | mechou | action at a distance..... |
| 01:30 | thor_ | "you really _should_ record The Young and The Restless" |
| 01:30 | pigeon | well like, i know port 6543 is for the data, right? |
| 01:30 | pigeon | is there anything else? |
| 01:31 | Chutt | look at the source. |
| 01:31 | pigeon | alright. |
| 01:31 | pigeon | ;) |
| 01:34 | Chutt | thor, have you looked at those mythvideo patches? |
| 01:34 | thor_ | not the very latest (of last 24 hours or so) |
| 01:35 | | * Morph stares at weirdness with mythbackend |
| 01:35 | Chutt | would you mind? =) |
| 01:35 | thor_ | I will |
| 01:35 | thor_ | yup |
| 01:35 | Chutt | and the poster directory patch from Kenneth Aafloy |
| 01:35 | thor_ | yup |
| 01:36 | Chutt | thanks |
| 01:36 | thor_ | yup |
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| 01:44 | rkulagow | well, since we've got the peanut gallery out tonight, what's a good name for being able to individually mute each channel if you want to? i'm updating frontend globalsettings, and this part seems to be harder than writing the code. |
| 01:44 | rkulagow | (looking for a class name) |
| 01:44 | thor_ | ChannelMuter |
| 01:44 | thor_ | ? |
| 01:45 | thor_ | heh, I can send you an algorithm for that |
| 01:45 | thor_ | rotfl |
| 01:47 | Chutt | rkulagow, no idea |
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| 01:47 | Chutt | anyone know if captain_murdoch is around this week? |
| 01:48 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, just popped in a for a minute to schedule a recording. what's up? |
| 01:51 | | * Captain_Murd thinks must be a long comment he's typing.. or else he fell asleep |
| 01:51 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:51 | Chutt | no, reading a website |
| 01:52 | Chutt | patch to fix strange display position in EPG |
| 01:52 | Chutt | patch on mythtv-dev |
| 01:52 | Chutt | if you have time, could you handle that one? =) |
| 01:53 | Morph | wow. |
| 01:53 | Captain_Murdo | | sure I can try testing it tomorrow night. I think I looked at it over the weekend and had a lockup when I tried recording on my test machine for some reason. |
| 01:53 | Captain_Murdo | | lockup was hardware, not the patch. :) |
| 01:53 | Morph | so apparently is xlibmesa-glu isnt installed..all mythtv related apps will complain about the QT Mysql libraries :) |
| 01:54 | | * Captain_Murd goes back to bed. |
| 01:54 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:54 | Chutt | ok, thanks =) |
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| 02:24 | Chutt | who feels like updating the goom source in mythmusic? =) |
| 02:24 | Chutt | http://www.ios-software.com/goom/devel/index.html |
| 02:25 | Chutt | 'course, that'd be pretty non-trivial |
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| 02:26 | thor_ | I was planning on redoing it anyway, as viz data will soon have to come over a socket |
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| 02:57 | rkulagow | chutt: still here? |
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| 09:46 | wodantj | Hello, I am about to buy a TV-card and I was wondering if anyone here have some good URLs so I know which one is the best to buy? |
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| 09:51 | mikegrb | WodanTJ: gogle |
| 09:51 | mikegrb | er gogle |
| 09:51 | mikegrb | damnit google |
| 09:51 | WodanTJ | mikegrb: I have googled and its hard to make out the results |
| 09:52 | WodanTJ | Actually I've been watching different cards and stuff for 2 days |
| 09:55 | WodanTJ | i've been trying to look at recommended hardware for MythTV |
| 09:55 | WodanTJ | maybe you could tell me something about that since you're using it. |
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| 10:07 | Kablooie | Hi all. |
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| 10:38 | o_cee | mikegrb: actually gogle.com works to, faster to write :) |
| 10:38 | mikegrb | heh |
| 10:44 | o_cee | anyone know if the scheduler respects airdate to determine if a show is a duplicate? i mean sometimes they air an old season and it might confuse the two? haven't tried it at all, just thought about it |
| 10:44 | mikegrb | prettu sure not |
| 10:45 | mikegrb | at least it didn't the last I was up to date on the inner workings of the duplicate stuff |
| 10:45 | o_cee | guess now is a good time to suggest it to david |
| 10:45 | o_cee | it would make sense, wouldn't it? |
| 10:46 | WodanTJ | Does anyone have a Pinnacle PCTV Stereo? |
| 10:46 | mikegrb | o_cee: well it depends on which grabber rather then info means anything |
| 10:46 | o_cee | WodanTJ: just get a hauppauge pvr-250/350 and you'll be happy |
| 10:47 | o_cee | mikegrb: guess so.. we're trying to parse out as much as possible from the desc, most info is there just need to put it in the right place.. |
| 10:47 | o_cee | swedish grabber that is |
| 10:47 | mikegrb | o_cee: aye |
| 10:48 | o_cee | just noticed a new season of friends started here tomorrow.. |
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| 10:53 | WodanTJ | o_cee: you dont happen to know how long the IR-eye-cable is? :) |
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| 10:54 | o_cee | WodanTJ: never used it.. |
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| 11:09 | WodanTJ | does the mpeg2 encoder on the Hauppauge PVR-250 work under linux? with mythtv? |
| 11:10 | kvandivo | WodanTJ: google is a wonderful thing |
| 11:11 | | * mikegrb <3 google |
| 11:11 | WodanTJ | kvandivo: Does sarkasm work in your life? |
| 11:11 | dja | WodanTJ: reading the title of this channel also is a wonderful thing |
| 11:12 | kvandivo | sarcasm IS my life, and your question is one of the simplest questions we've had in here in a long time |
| 11:12 | kvandivo | and believe me, if you think that was sarcasm, you don't want me to really open up on you |
| 11:12 | | * dja agrees with kvandivo's statement :) |
| 11:12 | WodanTJ | BUt you should really consider of changing your attitude towards people. Its giving mythtv a bad name. |
| 11:13 | | * dja didn't realize it was that time again...:) |
| 11:13 | WodanTJ | And sure, I can cope with that this isn't such a channel. But that does never give you the right to threat people bad. |
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| 11:13 | WodanTJ | well not threat :) but you know what i mean |
| 11:17 | o_cee | not really |
| 11:17 | o_cee | if you'd have asked in the right channel i would have answered |
| 11:17 | o_cee | got pics of my case ready now :) |
| 11:19 | dja | o_cee, have you seen http://www.casejunkies.com/index.php?upn=010001&hl_id=1873 ? Now that's a case. :-) |
| 11:21 | o_cee | heh, neat :) |
| 11:21 | o_cee | mine's not that nice |
| 11:21 | dja | and it only took him 250 hours to build it. :-) |
| 11:21 | o_cee | uploading the images now.. |
| 11:21 | dja | cool |
| 11:22 | o_cee | need to rename them and grab some food first.. will fix it soon :) |
| 11:22 | dja | ok |
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| 11:34 | o_cee | http://trekotor.se/mythtv/case[1-6].jpeg |
| 11:34 | o_cee | haven't got time to fix the pics |
| 11:34 | o_cee | but they give you an idea what it looks like ;) |
| 11:35 | o_cee | maybe a bit to big the pictures.. ah well. |
| 11:35 | | * o_cee is away |
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| 12:44 | thor_ | oooh, ED's got me on pins and needles |
| 12:45 | kvandivo | -users again? |
| 12:45 | thor_ | heh, yeah |
| 12:45 | kvandivo | you know.. i don't feel that the quality of my life has dropped a bit since i switched -users over to digest mode |
| 12:46 | thor_ | I know, I'm a glutton for punishment |
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| 13:00 | Chutt | heh |
| 13:00 | Chutt | thor, he wrote a novel instead of a patch |
| 13:01 | thor_ | heh |
| 13:01 | thor_ | War, Peace, and SQL |
| 13:02 | thor_ | oh, and GetSettings is broken |
| 13:02 | thor_ | you idiot |
| 13:03 | Chutt | your use of it there is broken :p |
| 13:03 | Chutt | i had gone through and fixed a bunch of those, guess i missed a few |
| 13:03 | Chutt | no biggie |
| 13:03 | thor_ | I did _not_ write intelligent playlists |
| 13:04 | Chutt | heh |
| 13:05 | Chutt | but you probably applied that patch =) |
| 13:05 | thor_ | almost certainly |
| 13:05 | thor_ | :-) |
| 13:06 | kvandivo | Ed does have a way with words.. You gotta love his extremely benign opening paragraph |
| 13:06 | thor_ | heh |
| 13:07 | thor_ | well, after months of people complaining, at least he hitched up his trousers and actually did something |
| 13:13 | Chutt | thor, i'm _writing code_ |
| 13:13 | Chutt | amazing |
| 13:13 | thor_ | heh |
| 13:13 | Chutt | trying to finish up the osd tree menu |
| 13:13 | thor_ | that's a good thing |
| 13:14 | Chutt | 'course, i should be finishing up my resume |
| 13:14 | thor_ | nah |
| 13:14 | Chutt | but that's not fun |
| 13:14 | thor_ | you need something to procrastinate over, otherwise you'll never write myth code |
| 13:14 | | * kvandivo ponders thor's statement. |
| 13:15 | o_c | Chutt: you saw my mail? your fix seems to be working :) |
| 13:16 | o_c | http://trekotor.se/mythtv/case[1-6].jpeg <-- finally, some pics of my case.. haven't prettied them up tho, haven't got time.. |
| 13:16 | Chutt | yeah |
| 13:16 | Chutt | thanks for checking |
| 13:16 | o_c | of course :) |
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| 13:20 | mikegrb | o_cee: I liked your pics, does it slide out? when can I move in? |
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| 13:24 | Chutt | i hate the 'why isn't what i changed doing anything?' 'oh, oops, didn't make install' line of reasoning |
| 13:25 | thor_ | try it with 4 libs that need to be installed before you can check something |
| 13:25 | thor_ | bah |
| 13:26 | Chutt | heh |
| 13:26 | o_cee | mikegrb: yeah, slides out.. pita cause all cables are at the back.. but it's easy enough, don't have to do it that often |
| 13:27 | mikegrb | o_cee: right |
| 13:30 | o_cee | my sweet little dragon :) |
| 13:30 | thor_ | I'm thinking Ed's come back snarling |
| 13:31 | o_cee | will be intresting |
| 13:32 | rkulagow | chutt: i just mailed you that patch to allow muting of left, right or both audio channels. |
| 13:33 | thor_ | I knew someone would want that functionality one day |
| 13:33 | Chutt | cool. |
| 13:33 | rkulagow | well, i don't, but it's one of those easy ones. |
| 13:34 | | * mikegrb mutes rkulagow |
| 13:35 | rkulagow | chutt: are you trying to standardize on the ISO-8601 country codes? because there's a ".ja" file in i8n/mythfrontend |
| 13:35 | Chutt | ya, i dunno |
| 13:35 | Chutt | probably should use .jp, but the original patch was .ja |
| 13:35 | Chutt | be a pain in the ass to change it now |
| 13:37 | Chutt | rkulagow, i'd change MUTE_STATE to something like kMuteState |
| 13:38 | rkulagow | sure, not a problem. what's "k" supposed to mean? |
| 13:38 | Chutt | and make it not do the GetNumSetting every time SetMute is called |
| 13:38 | Chutt | constant |
| 13:39 | rkulagow | ok, i'll make something like "wantsfancymute" bool in the constructor. that sound ok? |
| 13:39 | Chutt | just have to make a new member variable in the class to store the value of the setting |
| 13:39 | Chutt | yeah |
| 13:39 | Chutt | that'd be perfect |
| 13:39 | Chutt | go ahead and commit, after that :p |
| 13:39 | Rroet | hello :) |
| 13:39 | rkulagow | ok, i'll get going on it. thanks. |
| 13:39 | Rroet | I made a little post yesterday about mythtranscode. |
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| 13:40 | Rroet | I've yet to get an answer, is it because there is no good answer for it, or am I just blind and missed a part of the docs ? |
| 13:40 | Rroet | It's about transcoding from PVR250 recordings to mpeg4 |
| 13:40 | Chutt | rkulagow, actually, hrm |
| 13:40 | rkulagow | sure, what's up? |
| 13:41 | WodanTJ | o_cee: You seem to have a nice home. |
| 13:41 | Chutt | sec, phone |
| 13:41 | rkulagow | ok |
| 13:43 | Chutt | i think there'll be a problem changing channels |
| 13:44 | Chutt | or skipping commercials |
| 13:44 | Chutt | since those call ToggleMute |
| 13:44 | o_cee | WodanTJ: thanks |
| 13:44 | rkulagow | ok, so if we pass "ON" we want to force mute to be MUTE_BOTH. |
| 13:44 | Chutt | well |
| 13:44 | | * o_cee is off, watching the test of the oscars.. |
| 13:45 | Chutt | might be better to have a separate function 'NextMute()' or whatnot |
| 13:45 | Chutt | that does the new logic |
| 13:45 | WodanTJ | o_cee: Where in sweden do yo live? |
| 13:45 | Chutt | and have SetMute/ToggleMute do the current stuff |
| 13:45 | Chutt | full on/full off, that is |
| 13:45 | WodanTJ | Rroet: do you have an URL to your post about that transcode-issue? |
| 13:45 | Chutt | make sense? |
| 13:45 | Rroet | WodanTJ: just a sec, digging |
| 13:46 | Rroet | WodanTJ: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Users_F11/transcoding_with_a_PVR250__P111670/ |
| 13:47 | Chutt | yes, you missed something in the docs. |
| 13:47 | rkulagow | chutt: it does. i guess i'll just modify tv_play then, and call the new function if fancy muting is desired, otherwise just use the existing code path. |
| 13:47 | Chutt | the fact that 'strange error flushing buffer' isn't a fatal error |
| 13:47 | Chutt | rkulagow, the TV::ToggleMute() function? |
| 13:47 | Chutt | that works =) |
| 13:48 | Rroet | Chutt: ... -p is for the end result or just to choose where you're decoding from ? |
| 13:48 | rkulagow | chutt: ok, i'll take another whack at it. |
| 13:48 | Rroet | -p should be mpeg4 telling it to go to mpeg4 or to tell that the current file is mpeg2 ? |
| 13:48 | Chutt | rroet, no, you should use autodetect. |
| 13:49 | Chutt | nothing in what you posted about has anything about it 'not working' |
| 13:49 | Rroet | ok, then I've missed something else ? |
| 13:49 | Chutt | what i just fucking said |
| 13:49 | WodanTJ | Rroet: Its "lame"'s error message |
| 13:49 | Chutt | <Chutt> the fact that 'strange error flushing buffer' isn't a fatal error |
| 13:49 | Rroet | jup, I've read that. |
| 13:49 | Chutt | so why the hell are you still asking about it? |
| 13:49 | Rroet | the error isn't an error, but it does nothing after that. |
| 13:49 | Chutt | because it takes a bunch of time to transcode? |
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| 13:50 | Rroet | Chutt: because it leaves files bigger then what I already had? |
| 13:50 | Rroet | or files just 20mb large |
| 13:50 | Chutt | you didn't say _anything_ about that in your message |
| 13:50 | Rroet | it brakes of automagically on certain times without any notice |
| 13:50 | Chutt | there are _no_ error messages in there |
| 13:50 | Rroet | *sowwy* |
| 13:50 | Chutt | if you want help |
| 13:50 | Chutt | post relevant information |
| 13:51 | Chutt | now go take your questions to the mailing list, so i don't have to listen to you anymore |
| 13:51 | Rroet | K.. I'll run the transcode once more and try posting what more I can get |
| 13:52 | WodanTJ | Rroet: What are you trying to do? Maybe you can to it only with transcode, i don't know anything about mythtranscode though, but transcode I know. |
| 13:52 | WodanTJ | Rroet: Oh you are trying to encode realtime at a specific time? |
| 13:52 | WodanTJ | maybe i should read more about mythtv's features and stuff :) "transcode" just hilighted here :) |
| 13:52 | Rroet | WodanTJ: well, I want to transcode my MPEG2 recordings to MPEG4 to take up less size on the harddrive... not realtime encoding. (My Epia couldn't keep up with that :) ) |
| 13:53 | Rroet | But I want to keep them in the "recorded" section of mythtv and I don't want to export them with nuvexport and move them to mythvideo |
| 13:53 | WodanTJ | Rroet: Oh, ok, i see. mythtranscode is only there to find the correct files, right? |
| 13:54 | Rroet | no, mythtranscode is actually a transcoder :) |
| 13:54 | WodanTJ | oh i see :) |
| 13:54 | Rroet | and it finds the right recordings according to DB information :) |
| 13:55 | Chutt | go to #mythtv-users if you are going to insist on continuing this completely off-topic conversation. |
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| 13:55 | | * Rroet notices the uninvited sign and gives up all hope. |
| 13:56 | | * mikegrb wishes more people would notice the topic |
| 13:56 | | * Rroet wished people would right topics less then 80 chars, irssi would prefer that :) |
| 13:56 | Rroet | right==write |
| 13:56 | Chutt | so change it |
| 13:57 | --- | Channel: Rroet changed the topic of #mythtv to: mythtv developers channel, go bugger off to mythtv-users |
| 13:57 | Rroet | ok :) |
| 13:57 | Chutt | now change it back |
| 13:57 | Rroet | mm.. irssi doesn't know about that :( |
| 13:58 | --- | Channel: Rroet changed the topic of #mythtv to: mythtv developers channel, go to #mythtv-users |
| 13:58 | Rroet | there you go, friendly as ever |
| 13:58 | Chutt | um, no. |
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| 13:59 | --- | Channel: Chutt changed the topic of #mythtv to: http://www.mythtv.org -- This isn't a support channel, go to #mythtv-users |
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| 14:11 | thor_ | heh |
| 14:11 | thor_ | Ed's clearly been reading his Carnegie |
| 14:13 | Chutt | hrm? |
| 14:13 | Chutt | should i fix it and commit a patch before he does? |
| 14:13 | Chutt | =) |
| 14:14 | mikegrb | but that is just what he wants you to do ;) |
| 14:15 | Chutt | i think it'd be funny |
| 14:15 | thor_ | heh |
| 14:15 | Chutt | since it'd take about 30 seconds |
| 14:15 | thor_ | can't say I didn't ponder it |
| 14:16 | thor_ | (Carnegie, Andrew == author of "How to Win Friends and Influence People") |
| 14:18 | Chutt | if i wasn't almost done with getting the osd tree done, i'd do it |
| 14:19 | rkulagow | chutt: the revampled code is now compiling; next step is to see if it still works. |
| 14:19 | Chutt | heh |
| 14:19 | Chutt | allright |
| 14:20 | rkulagow | distcc sure doesn't suck, and it's easier than telling the wife i need a new computer for quickly compiling myth. |
| 14:21 | mikegrb | heh |
| 14:21 | mikegrb | I'd preffer a solution made of both |
| 14:23 | kvandivo | you can a new kid or a new computer, mikegrb, but not both |
| 14:24 | kvandivo | can have, that is |
| 14:24 | mikegrb | well actuaaly the kid needs a mini-itx |
| 14:24 | mikegrb | ogg-streams for baby monitor |
| 14:24 | mikegrb | the grow with me mini-itx |
| 14:25 | thor_ | heh |
| 14:25 | mikegrb | turns into a mythfrontend with mythvideo goodness to stope the screams of wailing banshees |
| 14:25 | mikegrb | s/stope/stop/ |
| 14:25 | kvandivo | that MUTE patch might come in handy, too |
| 14:25 | mikegrb | heh |
| 14:25 | mikegrb | indede |
| 14:25 | heidig | mikegrb: no |
| 14:25 | heidig | I want something normal in my life |
| 14:25 | mikegrb | heidig: :< |
| 14:25 | heidig | I won't budge on this |
| 14:25 | heidig | what the hell is up with my nick |
| 14:26 | mikegrb | see what I have to put up with? :/ |
| 14:26 | mikegrb | hehehe |
| 14:26 | heidig | nm |
| 14:26 | mikegrb | that is what your nick always is here |
| 14:26 | heidig | yeah I know |
| 14:26 | mikegrb | you thought we were in #orion, huh? |
| 14:26 | heidig | I was confused |
| 14:26 | heidig | no |
| 14:26 | heidig | I thought I was in linode |
| 14:26 | mikegrb | ahh |
| 14:26 | mikegrb | kirby isn't in linode |
| 14:26 | thor_ | uncert princip |
| 14:26 | heidig | anyway, I want normal stuff in my life, so don't mess with the baby monitor |
| 14:27 | mikegrb | yes dear |
| 14:29 | thor_ | mikegrb, you want one of these: http://www.epinions.com/kifm-B-BEquip-Nursery-Monitors-Angelcare_Sound_Monitor_and_Movement_Reassurance_System |
| 14:30 | thor_ | works as advertised |
| 14:30 | thor_ | and no firmware upgrades required |
| 14:30 | mikegrb | no firmware upgrades is a bad thing :/ |
| 14:31 | mikegrb | ;) |
| 14:31 | thor_ | heh |
| 14:31 | mikegrb | false alarms? |
| 14:31 | thor_ | nope |
| 14:31 | m0j0 | thor_: it's probably my lame coding attempt with intelligent lists that are the issue here. sorry, i suck. ;) |
| 14:32 | mikegrb | then sounds nifty |
| 14:32 | thor_ | mikegrb, YMMV, but ours works incredibly well |
| 14:32 | mikegrb | yes |
| 14:32 | mikegrb | and the price isn't bad |
| 14:32 | thor_ | m0j0, no biggie |
| 14:32 | mikegrb | thanks for the pointer |
| 14:32 | thor_ | yup |
| 14:33 | thor_ | m0j0, it works, just not fast ... and looks like someone found a way to speed it up |
| 14:33 | thor_ | (good thing) |
| 14:33 | m0j0 | hmmm... i don't think GetNumSetting is called with every song. i'm confused. blah. |
| 14:33 | thor_ | it's a recursive function |
| 14:33 | thor_ | keeps calling itself |
| 14:33 | thor_ | (I think) |
| 14:35 | m0j0 | i grab all the rating/playcount/etc data when we do the initial SELECT for the song names |
| 14:36 | thor_ | no, it's the GetSetting for the weightings |
| 14:37 | thor_ | Playlist::writeTree() |
| 14:37 | m0j0 | those are single global values, not dependent on the individual song |
| 14:37 | m0j0 | i only get those once, don't i? |
| 14:37 | Chutt | it's a recursive function |
| 14:38 | thor_ | writeTree() keeps calling writeTree() |
| 14:38 | Chutt | so it'll be called for every level in the tree |
| 14:38 | Chutt | like thor said, it's no big deal |
| 14:38 | kvandivo | but it's gotta be a big deal. Ed wrote a lot about it, so it's gotta be a big deal! |
| 14:38 | m0j0 | alrighty. i'll keep quiet and wait for the great Ed's fix. |
| 14:38 | Chutt | i still think i should fix it real quick |
| 14:39 | Chutt | because that'd be hilarious |
| 14:39 | thor_ | heh |
| 14:39 | kvandivo | and then you could tell him to quit gripping because it's been in cvs for quite some time now |
| 14:39 | thor_ | I'm more inclined to wait and see his patch |
| 14:41 | Chutt | i've got a hang to fix in the osd menu, anyway |
| 14:41 | thor_ | heh |
| 14:41 | Chutt | going to the previous channel through the menu doesn't seem to work right |
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| 14:48 | Chutt | ah hah |
| 14:48 | Chutt | got the stupid thing |
| 14:50 | Chutt | hrm |
| 14:50 | Chutt | now pip doesn't work |
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| 14:54 | thor_ | while you're looking at pip .... how hard would PBP (picture by picture) be ... two 4x3 on a 16x9 screen ... left and right arrow to set channel changing focus, left and right arrow again to decide which one gets to play audio ... |
| 14:54 | Chutt | harder |
| 14:54 | thor_ | heh |
| 14:54 | Chutt | take a bunch more cpu |
| 14:54 | thor_ | yeah |
| 14:55 | Chutt | thought about it when i did the original pip stuff, decided against doing it |
| 14:55 | thor_ | ok |
| 14:55 | thor_ | saw a Phillips widescreen plasma do that once, insanely cool |
| 14:56 | Chutt | if cards had two scalers that xv could use |
| 14:56 | Chutt | it'd be easy |
| 14:57 | Chutt | where's ed's patch? |
| 14:57 | thor_ | tick tick tick |
| 14:57 | thor_ | he's writing a sequal, "The SQL done Gone" |
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| 14:58 | YamahaBrez | Has anyone seen the barebone kit from MSI? Their MegaPC box? |
| 15:00 | Chutt | it's been discussed several times on the users list. |
| 15:00 | Chutt | i'd suggest you go look at the archives. |
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| 15:02 | o_cee | anyone wrote anything to me? lost power here, heh |
| 15:03 | thor_ | winning lottery number, but it's over now |
| 15:04 | o_cee | no problem |
| 15:04 | o_cee | that's ok |
| 15:07 | o_cee | you saw my piccies? |
| 15:09 | Rroet | Chutt: at your request I've looked into transcoding the piece again and see what happens. |
| 15:09 | Rroet | it spit out 575mb this time, with no error message. |
| 15:09 | Rroet | the file is still .tmp and can't be played. |
| 15:10 | Rroet | in what way can I get mythtranscode to output more error information so it can be of use ? |
| 15:10 | Chutt | i honestly couldn't care less |
| 15:14 | Chutt | thor |
| 15:14 | Chutt | um |
| 15:14 | Chutt | ed's patch =) |
| 15:14 | thor_ | oh, is it there |
| 15:15 | thor_ | WAAHHH I don't have it yet |
| 15:15 | o_cee | blah i'm always last |
| 15:15 | Chutt | just go to pipermail on mythtv.org |
| 15:16 | thor_ | it'll be here in a sec |
| 15:16 | thor_ | something wrong with it ? |
| 15:16 | thor_ | (he asks, with delightful glee) |
| 15:17 | o_cee | "Ok, I cant find anywhere on the website that tells me how to get the cvs of " <-- hehehehe |
| 15:17 | Chutt | uh, yeah |
| 15:17 | o_cee | what an annoying dude |
| 15:17 | thor_ | well, one of us should just fix it |
| 15:18 | Chutt | i'll do it |
| 15:18 | | * thor_ sometimes receives awards for stating the obvious |
| 15:18 | Chutt | properly |
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| 15:18 | o_cee | 10 points to you thor, congrats |
| 15:18 | Chutt | after i figure out why pip isn't toggling properly |
| 15:19 | o_cee | Chutt: what's wrong with it? |
| 15:19 | Chutt | well |
| 15:19 | Chutt | global static variables are generally a bad thing |
| 15:19 | thor_ | heh, i _KNEW_ he'd do that |
| 15:19 | o_cee | i meant pip |
| 15:19 | Chutt | especially when there's absolutely no reason to use them |
| 15:20 | Chutt | oh, it's just broken with the new menu code |
| 15:20 | o_cee | ah :) |
| 15:20 | --- | ---> choenig [~choenig@p5092655E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mythtv |
| 15:20 | o_cee | it actually worked really god on the 350 with the driver from chris kennedy, was smooth enough |
| 15:21 | thor_ | dear god |
| 15:21 | thor_ | anyway, I'll leave it in your capable hands |
| 15:21 | thor_ | heh |
| 15:22 | o_cee | Chutt: you'll apply that log module right? could send you a watermark for it, think i found a pretty good one |
| 15:23 | Chutt | yeah |
| 15:23 | Chutt | eventually |
| 15:23 | | * josephk color is always strange with PIP, but I guess that's how it goes |
| 15:23 | Chutt | i asked for one more modification |
| 15:23 | Chutt | pip color should be better now |
| 15:23 | o_cee | yeah i saw that.. but i guess he'll fix it. |
| 15:24 | o_cee | i'd prefer a slightly bigger pip as well.. but i could change that locally i guess |
| 15:24 | | * josephk I guess you need at least a certain configuration to get good performance with the ivtvddev driver |
| 15:24 | | * josephk -d |
| 15:25 | o_cee | josephk: doesn't look good with low resolution captures.. |
| 15:26 | | * josephk I've gone back to the old driver for the time being |
| 15:27 | | * josephk I'll wait until he's done changing things |
| 15:27 | | * josephk I wish I had this patience last week when I was willing to recompile X just to use it...hehe |
| 15:28 | o_cee | josephk: heh, when in fact you didn't need to :) |
| 15:29 | o_cee | http://trekotor.se/mythtv/log.png <-- you think that'll be okay for the logging module? |
| 15:29 | Chutt | sure |
| 15:29 | o_cee | goodie. will have to see what it looks like in action as well |
| 15:31 | steelep | looks like a box of nuclear waste :-) |
| 15:31 | o_cee | exactly ;) |
| 15:31 | mikegrb | I just get the little red x thingie that means no image for you |
| 15:32 | Chutt | no image for you, one year |
| 15:32 | mikegrb | :< |
| 15:32 | mikegrb | I'm sure it is the crazy silly government proxy server thingie |
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