TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#mythtv:2004:02:21

---	Log	opened Sat Feb 21 00:00:02 2004
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00:04	stevenm	Hi all
00:04	stevenm	When I go to watch tv, mythbackend gives me error: Unknown video codec: open: Device or resource busy
00:04	stevenm	open: Device or resource busy
00:04	stevenm	I have codec set as MPEG-4... What's wrong?
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02:37	Sobek	Do you developers have a faviorite mobo for myth?
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03:14	Sir-Al	Sobek: KT333 works well
03:14	Sobek	I will give that a read up.
03:15	Sir-Al	Sobek: it's been replaced by KT400 and KT400a (or something of the sort), but I have no experience with those
03:15	Sobek	I have actually had a run in with the kt400 and was very unhappt.
03:15	Sobek	unhappy
03:16	Sir-Al	maybe that's why i don't use it ;)
03:16	Sobek	what about for a p4?
03:16	Sir-Al	no idea, i prefer athlons
03:16	Sir-Al	hardly anyone i know uses p4's
03:17	Sir-Al	so i can't ask many either lol
03:17	Sobek	Me too but this was a freebee for research..
03:17	Sir-Al	Sobek: get one that supports dual channel ddr with 533mhz fsb
03:18	Sobek	Proc is hyperthread ready 800 fsb..
03:18	Sobek	Any particular chipset that caused major issues?
03:19	Sobek	I have found a few issues with a Asus a7n8x.. Very unstable..
03:27	Sir-Al	Sobek: try to avoid nforce chipsets
03:27	Sobek	Yea I learned that the hard way.. :-) I also avoid the ati stuff if possible..
03:28	Sir-Al	Sobek: ati is great... if you're in windows
03:29	Sobek	amen to that..
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03:49	o_cee	i forgot to set handle sigpipe nostop in gdb
03:49	o_cee	how can i resume the program ?
03:49	o_cee	anyone knows?
03:49	o_cee	ah continue
03:49	o_cee	nm
03:56	Sir-Al	heh
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04:10	ShockValue	do i get klined for askin a dumb support question here? Im getting no love in -users.. :)
04:11	ShockValue	well, here goes: is there a way to clear out just the music portion of the mythtv database? ive changed a bunch of stuff around, and would like to re-scan from scratch, but dont want to start completely over.
04:11	Slaytanic	Sure, just clear out the relevant table in the database.
04:12	ShockValue	that sounds logical.. unfortunatly i dont know sql commands, except by following the mythtv install docs
04:12	Slaytanic	It's easy... The command you want to execute is DELETE FROM musicmetadata WHERE 1;
04:13	ShockValue	thank you, ill go try that
04:13	Slaytanic	From the cmd prompt, type "mysql -u mythtv -p" and then enter your pw... It's probably "mythtv".
04:13	Slaytanic	Then enter "use mythconverg" to select the correct database. Then issue the SQL command above.
04:13	ShockValue	ok! afk to go try :)
04:14	Slaytanic	Oh, "use mythconverg;" of course. :)
04:18	ShockValue	thank you, that worked perfectly
04:25	Sir-Al	wow...
04:25	Slaytanic	Great. :)
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08:55	avoozl	the frontend segfaults when i go to program schedule.. (cvs checkout yesterday) any clues?
09:03	niqo	does not do that here, cvs from today
09:03	niqo	was it a clean checkout or update?
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09:19	avoozl	clean checkout
09:19	avoozl	but it might be caused by my odd configuration of channel, i dont think everything has channelnames and such yet
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10:26	enki	man i gotta say kde 3.2 is pretty sexy
10:40	avoozl	heh
10:41	avoozl	i hate those kinds of wm's
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12:21	avoozl	how hard would it be to just use mythtv as a scheduler, and use a different capture program (like mp1e, which gives me far better quality/speed captures on my machine)
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12:27	niqo	avoozl: look at the libs/libmythtv/mpegrecorder* files
12:28	avoozl	niqo: thanks
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12:31	gulliver	hi all
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12:32	gulliver	I am just trying to undestand the mythmusic source code and I absolutely can't see how the UIManagedTreeList is filled, if show_whole_tree is enabled
12:32	gulliver	can someone help me with that?
12:34	gulliver	nobody around here?
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13:58	thor_	gulliver, it gets passed a GenericTree object
13:59	thor_	AllMusic::writeTree in metadata.cpp
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14:17	gulliver	thor_: I figuraed that out by myself, but where is this called for all_music? I only see this for all_playlists?!
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14:30	stevenm	hey, is it possible to run mythfrontend and mythbackend on the same computer ?
14:30	thor_	playlists calls music
14:30	thor_	(I think)
14:31	gulliver	hmmm... ok. although I don't see where the sense behind that should be...
14:31	stevenm	I just want a pvr program
14:31	thor_	cause you can't load it till the playlists are donw
14:31	thor_	done
14:31	thor_	as playlist need all the metadata and all the other playlists to be loaded before you can see if they're valid or not
14:32	thor_	stevenm, yes
14:32	thor_	loaded != in the tree
14:32	gulliver	ok...
14:32	stevenm	thor_, how do I do this? both frontend and backend open /dev/dsp, and backend, seeing /dev/dsp occupied, bails on me
14:33	thor_	stevenm, huh ?
14:33	gulliver	stevenm: what sound-service are you using?
14:33	thor_	gulliver, one sec ...
14:33	stevenm	gulliver, am on alsa
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14:34	gulliver	strange, alsa should be able to handle multiple connects on the emulated oss device
14:35	stevenm	apparently not..
14:36	thor_	gulliver, yeah, PlaybackBox::checkForPlaylists()
14:36	thor_	shows Please Wait() ... till everything is set to go
14:36	thor_	sorry "Please Wait"
14:37	gulliver	thor_: yes, I saw that, but I still don't understand how the entire collections get's loaded, if you have show_whole_tree is enabled...
14:38	thor_	_loading_ is off in it's own thread, putting on the tree happens once loading is done
14:38	gulliver	I think if I would see the code which does the determination if show_whole_tree is on and loads the entire database then
14:38	thor_	database is always completely loaded
14:39	thor_	show whole tree is just a flag fro how to draw the GUI
14:39	gulliver	hmmmm
14:39	thor_	main.cpp
14:39	thor_	sets the loading going
14:39	thor_	playback box is just asking if it's done yet
14:40	thor_	and if it is, drawings something, either in show whole tree mode or not
14:40	thor_	drawing
14:40	thor_	stevenm, http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-20.html#ss20.12
14:41	gulliver	hmmm
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14:45	gulliver	another question: If I want to create key-events isn't it enough to simply do a REG_KEY("MyModule", "TESTCOMMAND", "just test", "t");
14:46	gulliver	and access it with gContext->GetMainWindow()->TranslateKeyPress("MyModule", e, actions);
14:46	gulliver	?
14:46	thor_	heh, dunno ... Chutt did all the KeyList stuff and I've never really looked at it
14:46	gulliver	because I tried that and I doesn
14:46	gulliver	't work
14:47	gulliver	but if I add a command to a existing command-set (for example for "Music") it works fine
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14:47	thor_	if you want _new_ set, you probably need to have it exist up in libmyth ... but I'm just guessing
14:48	gulliver	ok, could you point me to the files I have to look at?
14:48	Chutt	please write my code for me!
14:48	Snow-Man	Ok!
14:49	gulliver	hmmm, but when I think of it, this wouldn't really make sense, since every new module would need to modify libmyth, wouldn't it?
14:49	thor_	no idea
14:49	Snow-Man	printf("Chutt sucks!\n");
14:49	thor_	goto Snow-Man;
14:49	Snow-Man	hehe
14:49	gulliver	Chutt: could you possibly lighten up the darkness a little bit? (c;
14:50	Chutt	gulliver, no, figure it out yourself.
14:50	gulliver	thanks a lot, this is really friendly (c:
14:51	Chutt	you're being annoying
14:51		* thor_ is going to go and buy some Diet Coke
14:52	Chutt	all your questions so far could have been answered by grepping through the sources.
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14:54	gulliver	as far as I see it from the sources a REG_KEY should do the thing
14:55	Chutt	that's because they do.
14:56	gulliver	Chutt: then I don't see, why it doesn't work for me?
14:56	Chutt	i wouldn't know
14:58		* Captain_Murd wishes that QComboBox issued an activated() signal when you hit ENTER and not just when you selected an item using the mouse.
14:58	Chutt	change it =)
14:59	Chutt	i'm already overriding the keypressevent for that, aren't i?
14:59	Captain_Murdo	\| oh, so the left/right is overridden? :) hmmm....
14:59	Captain_Murdo	\| forgot about that.
15:00	Captain_Murdo	\| or up/down, forgot which but I know what you mean.
15:01	Captain_Murdo	\| and I was looking at mythwidgets.cpp last night but overlooked that function.
15:01	thor_	Chutt, that segfault the same cause of rkulagow's ?
15:01	dja_	Captain_Murdoch: are you working on the Recording Group View popup?
15:01	gulliver	maybe there is a way to check if the keys are registered the right way?
15:01	Chutt	the one just posted?
15:01	thor_	yeah
15:01	Chutt	i wouldn't have any idea, as the guy cut off the part where it crashed
15:01	Captain_Murdo	\| dja, the ability to hit ENTER instead of requiring OK? yeah, I was looking at that.
15:02	dja_	:-) great minds think alike...I'm working on that exact issue myself...although you're far better than me, so maybe i'll just wait...:-)
15:02	Captain_Murdo	\| I'm looking at it because you (or someone else) mentioned it a few days ago. :)
15:03	dja_	I'm sorta there, I modified combobox to add an "emit accepted(currentItem())", but it just goes back to the previous view...was just working on why...
15:03	dja_	must have been someone else, I've just been muttering under my breath about it. :-)
15:05	Captain_Murdo	\| what do you mean "previous view" you mean the window closes?
15:05	dja_	yup, but the view doesn't change
15:05	Captain_Murdo	\| ok.
15:06	gulliver	doh, found my mistake... I had handled set to true...
15:07	gulliver	sry for being annoying (c:
15:09	Captain_Murdo	\| c++ question. if I'm in a slot, can I trigger another slot to happen?
15:09	thor_	slot's are methods
15:10	thor_	you can just call them
15:11	Captain_Murdo	\| so I can call accept() from within my own slot. thanks. c++ newbie trying to use Myth to learn more. :)
15:11	Captain_Murdo	\| well, Qt newbie, c++ sorta newbie.
15:13	thor_	you just need to be a little careful with stuff that are part of Qt event cycles, so you don't do things like generate a keyPressEvent while in the KeyPressEvent handler
15:13	thor_	that kind of thing
15:14	Captain_Murdo	\| ok, thanks.
15:14	thor_	yup
15:16	dja_	darn, got it changing the view, but the box doesn't go away until you click ok...almost there. :-)
15:16	gulliver	thor_ undestand the entire music-collection thing now. (now that I know, what conext is for (c: )
15:18	Captain_Murdo	\| dja, it changed the view because PlaybackBox::chooseSetViewGroup() was called,
15:19	gulliver	thor_: I understand <- this is what I wanted to say (c:
15:19	dja_	yeah, I did that. :-) Now I'm just trying to figure out how to get it to close the popup at the same time. :-)
15:19	thor_	heh
15:20	dja_	got it. yea! :-)
15:20	Captain_Murdo	\| cool.
15:20	Captain_Murdo	\| so it only closes if you hit enter if there's no password required for that group? ;)
15:20	dja_	hacking myth can be too addicting :-)
15:21	dja_	(I believe so, checking...)
15:21	dja_	ack...:-)
15:21	dja_	at least it doesn't change to group w/o the password. :-)
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15:44		* Captain_Murd for kicks links in an .avi file in place of a .nuv file and then selects it to play from the playbackbox screen.
15:45		* Captain_Murd is now pondering a "virtual recording group" that contains the videos from mythvideo's db with the option of calling out to the normal external player or using the internal.
15:45	thor_	yup
15:46	Captain_Murdo	\| would be easy to do, just add a little to FillList() in playbackbox.cpp.
15:46	thor_	my significant other is constantly compalining that it makes no sense that some Sex and The City's are under "Video" and some are under "Watch Recordings"
15:47	thor_	complaining
15:47	thor_	vague plans to have mfd build a list of all available video metadata at some point ...
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16:01	Captain_Murdo	\| wouild be nice to run a quick scan of the video so the seeklist is in the DB for something like this.
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16:20	dja_	Captain_Murdoch: got it! I'm not sure that it's pretty, but it works. :-)
16:20	G-funk\|laptop	\| anyone know if support for sega genesis roms has been started for mythgame?
16:20	G-funk\|laptop	\| or even thought about...
16:21	Captain_Murdo	\| dja, cool.
16:22	dja_	once I've cleaned it up some, should I send a patch to mythtv-dev?
16:22	Captain_Murdo	\| just noticed MythPasswordDialog() and probably will replace the recgroup dialog that pops up when you go into the playback screen and your default group neeeds a password.
16:22	dja_	ahh
16:22	Captain_Murdo	\| dja: there or to me is fine.
16:23	dja_	ok
16:23	Captain_Murdo	\| thanks.
16:24	dja_	yer welcome. :-)
16:25	dja_	so is it worth me sending the patch? if I understand what you said, then my patch won't be needed. :-)
16:25	dja_	oh wait, yes it will...because combobox doesn't do the select thingy...nevermind. :-)
16:26	gulliver	can someone tell me, how I can set an alternative graphic to solid_showings.png as background for 2-bin UIManagedTreeLists?
16:26	Captain_Murdo	\| I'm just talking about when you initially go into the playback screen. if your default group requires a password, a dialog will popup currently. but it would be better if I just popped up Myth's password dialog rather than using my own.
16:27	dja_	ahh...gotcha...should I remove the "OK" button from the popup?
16:28	Captain_Murdo	\| I think it needs to stay for cases where there is a password.
16:28	dja_	btw, what I thought you were talking about was not prompting for a password until after the user has selected the group...
16:28	dja_	kinda like if you were entering the watch recording screens initially and it prompted for a password...
16:29	Captain_Murdo	\| that might be a good idea as well.
16:29	dja_	I think it would flow better...
16:29	Captain_Murdo	\| yeah and would be less confusing.
16:29	dja_	:-)
16:29	dja_	(then I could remove that "OK" button I'm dying to remove :)
16:30	Captain_Murdo	\| could put a text box on the group chooser that says "password required" or something maybe.
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16:31	Captain_Murdo	\| yeah, I don't like the idea of the ok button but thought it would be less confusing than automatically closing the dialog whey they got the right password (which also means empty if it's empty).
16:32	dja_	the way I envision it is that it won't close until you have a "working combination" (either no password and a group with no password, or the correct password and a group that has a password)
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16:33	dja_	what I mean by "won't close" is that the select button doesn't do anything...so it won't ever "automatically close", it'll only close if you press select
16:33	Captain_Murdo	\| well, if no ok button and a seperate password popup, I would think it wouldn't close until you hit enter.
16:33	Captain_Murdo	\| enter/select. :)
16:33	dja_	yup -- that's what I mean (probably not what I said :-)
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16:34	Captain_Murdo	\| different terminology. I think that's much smoother than the current way I have it setup. I'm terrible at intuitive gui stuff. :)
16:35	Captain_Murdo	\| I made a note on my TODO list to look at using the MythPasswordDialog() and changing this unless you want to mess with it.
16:35	dja_	yeah, I'm not bad at complaining when it doesn't feel right, but I'm not any good at designing it. :-)
16:36	dja_	I'll take a look at it and see if I think I can tackle it...I'll let you know if I get anywhere. In the meantime, I'll send you my patch for the current method. :-)
16:36	dja_	btw, did you check in my patch for the recgroup database insert?
16:37	Captain_Murdo	\| ok, I'm going to be working a bunch over the next few days but I'll try to get it in soon. the db insert patch for the recorded table? I'm pretty sure. said something in the log about doing 99% of the work and leaving the 1% up to the user to implement. :)
16:38	dja_	yeah, I saw that...for some reason a "cvs diff -u ." from the top of my mythtv tree is acting as if it wasn't...
16:38	Captain_Murdo	\| it's in ProgramInfo::StartedRecording() in my tree and doesn't show up as a change from cvs when I do a diff.
16:39	Captain_Murdo	\| did you do a -D anytime recently?
16:39	dja_	interesting..."cvs diff -u" must only see what differs in my tree versus the exact same revision...:-)
16:40	dja_	(doing an update now)
16:41	Captain_Murdo	\| yeah, that's the way it works.
16:41	dja_	I learn quite a bit each day. :-)
16:42	thor_	MythPasswordDialog() is very simple .... only slightly clever thing in there is it puts a timestamp in the settings table
16:43	Captain_Murdo	\| that's done in mythvideo right not in mythpassworddialog.
16:43	thor_	yup
16:43	Captain_Murdo	\| thought so. was looking at the mythvideo code and that's how I noticed mythpassworddialog. :)
16:44	Captain_Murdo	\| thor, were you envisioning the mythvideo files just showing up all under one "title" in the normal watch recordings screen?
16:45	thor_	no idea, hadn't thought that far
16:45	thor_	just vague thinking that every mfd should have a list of audio content, a list of image content, and a list of video content
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16:47	thor_	perhaps tree structure from dir structure for videos ?
16:47	Captain_Murdo	\| I might give it some thought over the next few days since I won't have much time to do actual coding. I was thinking if there was a "MythVideo" title, the subtitles and descriptions could be from videometadata. or maybe a different info box for videos from videometadata table. could try to move some of mythvideo functionalitiy into the lib so things like the code that plays the consecutive parts would work.
16:48	Captain_Murdo	\| yeah, that could work. could mean too many levels for existing display code but that could be reworked.
16:48	thor_	lots of ways this could go, a little thinking up front certainly wouldn't hurt
16:48	Captain_Murdo	\| yeah.
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17:48	Teflon	FYI blankmedia.ca is so amazingly cheap for DVD-R blanks.
17:48	avoozl	how cheap
17:48		* avoozl checks
17:50	avoozl	hum i dont see anything on the site if its canadian or us dollar
17:51	thor_	apart from the red maple leaf and the words "Prices in Canadian dollars" ?
17:53	avoozl	oh i was using lynx
17:53	avoozl	that is pretty cheap
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18:30	AridWrk	I'll 3rd that blankmedia.ca recommendation
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19:26	dja_	Captain_Murdoch: you around?
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19:34	dja_	Captain_Murdoch: I've sent the patch to the mailing list (I don't have your email address :-). It uses MythPasswordDialog for password prompting.
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20:26	Captain_Murdo	\| dja, cool.
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20:37	quink	anyone know what might cause this error: Waited too long for decoder to pause ?
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21:30		* Captain_Murd wonders why all his recordings (except the mpeg2 ones) started playing back with chipmunk voices and in fast motion.
21:58	Chutt	you selected the 'play back like the chipmunks' option in settings?
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22:04	Captain_Murdo	\| must have missed that commit message. slow email I guess. :)
22:04	Captain_Murdo	\| didn't remember that option.
22:05	Chutt	heh
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22:28	Captain_Murdo	\| Chutt, any opinions on a what key could be used to tag items on the playbackbox screen. for instance if you wanted to delete 5 programs at once or move 10 programs to a different recording group, etc..
22:30	knight-	Chutt, I am still having a hard time figuring out where to place the theme downloader stuff in the UI... Perhaps a button on the section with the theme selector that says DOWNLOAD THEMES or something, that presents anew popup window
22:34	Chutt	sure
22:34	Chutt	that'd work
22:35	Chutt	captain_murdoch, i was pondering changing over the playback screen internals to use the uilistbtn stuff
22:35	Chutt	like in mythnews
22:35	Chutt	well, needs the tree level handling and stuff
22:36	Chutt	and it currently looks a little different than the existing stuff, so i'd like to make it so it can look similar to now
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22:37	Chutt	but i think that'd be a better framework, as it should be easier to do more levels
22:37	Chutt	and selection-type stuff
22:37	Captain_Murdo	\| ok. so it will make things easier by reusing code.
22:37	Chutt	yeah
22:38	Chutt	i think it's a better framework than the list type that's drawing that screen already
22:38	Chutt	simpler
22:38	Chutt	at least =)
22:38	Captain_Murdo	\| yeah, lot of code in there just to handle the list.
22:38	Chutt	i want to get mythmusic's selection screen converted to using it
22:39	Captain_Murdo	\| which one's going first? music?
22:39	Chutt	music, yeah
22:39	Captain_Murdo	\| :) remember you saying you were using it a lot lately.
22:39	Chutt	heh
22:39	Chutt	been busy
22:39	Chutt	but not for much longer =)
22:40	Chutt	so hopefully i can get some serious amounts of code written
22:41	Chutt	knight, i think there's a settings button type already defined that should help with all that
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22:41	Captain_Murdo	\| will this be pre-0.15?
22:41	Chutt	the music stuff, at least
22:41	Chutt	i hope
22:42	Captain_Murdo	\| so most of playbackbox will get rewritten as part of this right?
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22:42	Chutt	potentially
22:42	thor_	heh
22:42	Chutt	if stuff works out with the music tree
22:43	knight-	Chutt, point me in the right direction :)
22:43	Chutt	knight, channel editor
22:43	thor_	mythmusic being rewritten from two directions
22:43	knight-	thanks
22:43	thor_	perhaps a 0.15 before the chaos begins ?
22:43	Chutt	i dunno
22:44	Chutt	i've just been busy too much recently
22:44	thor_	the fixes for live tv versus 0.14 would be nice to get out before completely nuking stuff
22:44	thor_	:-)
22:45	Chutt	eh
22:45	thor_	I dunno, something about the avformat static structure screwing up live tv after a while
22:46	thor_	maybe that's already in 0.14 ... I never have time to actually use Myth :-)
22:49	knight-	thats no good
22:58		* Captain_Murd debates whether it's worth it to apply the code he just wrote to allow tagging multiple items on the playbackbox screen since it only works with changing recording groups for now and will need to be rewritten anyway.
22:59	Captain_Murdo	\| will be nice if you can tag multiple items for delete/play/etc. when it uses the new type.
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