| --- | Log | opened Fri Feb 20 00:00:35 2004 |
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| 00:37 | knight | holy crap |
| 00:37 | knight | compiling recordingprofile.cpp seems to eat up like 150mb of mem |
| 00:37 | knight | on this xbox |
| 00:44 | mdz | knight: gcc 3.3 |
| 00:45 | knight | mdz, eh? |
| 00:45 | mdz | knight: gcc 3.3 uses ridiculous amounts of memory compiling several parts of mythtv |
| 00:45 | knight | hmm |
| 00:46 | mdz | 3.2 was better, 3.4 is better |
| 00:46 | knight | gcc version 3.2.2 |
| 00:46 | mdz | maybe it started earlier than 3.3.0 |
| 00:46 | mdz | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=194345 |
| 00:46 | knight | well it was hanging on recordprofile.cpp which was odd |
| 00:46 | knight | i let it sit there like 15 minutes |
| 00:47 | knight | i'm trying a fresh recompile using distcc with only remote hosts |
| 00:47 | knight | wonder how it will work |
| 00:47 | mdz | globalsettings.cpp was the worst last I looked |
| 00:47 | mdz | uses almost 200M on my system |
| 00:47 | knight | heh |
| 00:48 | knight | /usr/include/pthread.h:165: `pthread_create' declared as function returning a function |
| 00:48 | knight | ack |
| 01:05 | thor_ | still can't believe that actually worked |
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| 01:52 | knight | can i test it with you? |
| 01:54 | thor_ | I'm just rebuilding some stuff, 'cause I want to test in the other direction |
| 01:54 | thor_ | give me an hour or so |
| 01:54 | knight | heh ok |
| 01:55 | thor_ | you'll need this: http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/rendezvous/source/Rendezvous.tar.gz |
| 01:57 | knight | ok got it |
| 01:57 | knight | what should i build in it? |
| 01:59 | thor_ | anywhere |
| 02:00 | thor_ | you just need to be able to run the mDNSProxyResponderPosix command |
| 02:00 | knight | ok done. i built it |
| 02:00 | thor_ | k |
| 02:01 | thor_ | I've only got one machine that I can haul over and plug in outside my firewall, and I'm rebuilding Qt on that (old laptop) |
| 02:01 | thor_ | it'll be a while |
| 02:01 | knight | isnt the old qt still there? |
| 02:01 | thor_ | yeah, but it's old and mfd segfaults on a Qt error |
| 02:01 | knight | gotcha |
| 02:02 | thor_ | oh, you'll need a more or less cvs version of the mfd, of course |
| 02:03 | thor_ | and an iTunes would be interesting as well |
| 02:03 | knight | i have cvs of mfd as of like one hour ago |
| 02:03 | knight | and iTunes on windows |
| 02:03 | thor_ | k, that's good |
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| 02:07 | o_cee | wonder if that's enough sleep... hmm |
| 02:08 | thor_ | heh, go back to bed |
| 02:08 | knight | weird, mythepg fails on this xbox because of undefined references to FT_Seek_Stream, etc (freetype) stuff |
| 02:08 | o_cee | dammit |
| 02:08 | knight | but libfreetype is installed fine |
| 02:08 | knight | /usr/share/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to `FT_Seek_Stream' |
| 02:08 | thor_ | libxft ? |
| 02:08 | knight | oh? |
| 02:09 | thor_ | think so |
| 02:09 | thor_ | not sure |
| 02:09 | knight | ii libxft-dev 2.1.2-5xebian |
| 02:09 | knight | ii libxft2 2.1.2-5xebian |
| 02:10 | thor_ | dunno |
| 02:11 | knight | time to bust out nm |
| 02:12 | knight | xbox1:~/cvs/mythtv/mythtv# nm -D /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.4 |grep Seek |
| 02:12 | knight | 0000e840 T FT_Stream_Seek |
| 02:12 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: newest cvs, distclean.. running in gdb right now.. it'll end in 8 minutes |
| 02:12 | o_cee | then we'll see |
| 02:14 | knight | grr |
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| 02:14 | thor_ | where did your Qt come from (was Qt compiled with -xft option) ? |
| 02:15 | o_cee | thor_: is there anyway to protect a mfd share? i mean without closing the fw? |
| 02:15 | knight | it came from a binary package |
| 02:15 | thor_ | knight, dunno if that's a problem or not ... grasping at straws |
| 02:16 | knight | yeah |
| 02:16 | thor_ | o_cee, daap includes an authentication system (well, http authentication) based on passwords |
| 02:16 | thor_ | just like in iTunes you can say, share my music but use this password |
| 02:16 | o_cee | cool |
| 02:17 | o_cee | that'll probably be a good idea ;) |
| 02:17 | thor_ | but, uhm, you don't really want an mfd running on the internet for practical purposes |
| 02:17 | knight | :) |
| 02:17 | thor_ | I mean, there's probably a gazillion buffer overflows in there :-) |
| 02:17 | o_cee | sure i want, i want you to listen to higi quality swedish music |
| 02:18 | thor_ | vpn's perhaps |
| 02:18 | o_cee | ah yeah |
| 02:18 | thor_ | I just shutter at the thought that anyone would leave this code I've written nakedly exposed to the net |
| 02:18 | o_cee | hehehee |
| 02:18 | o_cee | would be cool |
| 02:19 | o_cee | all of a sudden a new share pops up |
| 02:19 | o_cee | muhaha |
| 02:20 | thor_ | well, it's exactly the same as iTunes ... which makes me wonder why there aren't iTunes daap proxy mirrors all over the place ... |
| 02:20 | thor_ | err, mDNS proxy mirrors |
| 02:20 | thor_ | iTunes could really be one big honkin p2p network |
| 02:20 | o_cee | yeah |
| 02:20 | Chutt | doesn't it limit the number of machines? |
| 02:21 | thor_ | it limits the number of "authorized" machines for m4p content |
| 02:21 | o_cee | all i've seen is universitys using it, like the whole university rates your music taste :P |
| 02:21 | thor_ | but I'm not aware that it limits the number of basic daap connections |
| 02:21 | Chutt | ah |
| 02:22 | o_cee | wow |
| 02:22 | o_cee | it segfaultet again guys |
| 02:22 | o_cee | but at another place |
| 02:23 | thor_ | after a make distclean ? |
| 02:23 | o_cee | ye |
| 02:23 | o_cee | i think i did that before going to bed, heh.. yeah, i did |
| 02:23 | o_cee | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 02:23 | o_cee | [Switching to Thread 245776 (LWP 1862)] |
| 02:23 | o_cee | 0x41265bc7 in memset () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 02:24 | o_cee | i'll email it instead |
| 02:24 | o_cee | wth |
| 02:24 | o_cee | (gdb) thread apply all bt full |
| 02:24 | o_cee | [New process 30530] |
| 02:24 | o_cee | lin-lwp.c:1371: gdb-internal-error: lin_lwp_thread_alive: Assertion `is_lwp (ptid)' failed. |
| 02:24 | o_cee | An internal GDB error was detected. This may make further |
| 02:24 | o_cee | debugging unreliable. |
| 02:24 | thor_ | heh |
| 02:25 | o_cee | wtf was that all about.. it just pooped |
| 02:25 | linagee | mythtv won't let me watch anything lol |
| 02:25 | linagee | it seems everything is a re-run. :( |
| 02:25 | linagee | is there a fix for this? some way i can throw a patch at the tv networks so they have something original? :) |
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| 02:29 | o_cee | Chutt: any suggestion? |
| 02:29 | Chutt | no, i'm not responsible for gdb errors. |
| 02:29 | o_cee | heheheh :) what's valgrind? |
| 02:29 | o_cee | should i try that instead? |
| 02:30 | o_cee | right, version 6.0 of gdb is availible.. i'll start with getting that |
| 02:30 | thor_ | I think you're going to have to keep talking to Captain_Murdoch on this one |
| 02:31 | o_cee | yeah.. Captain_Murdoch, you're not around are you? |
| 02:31 | o_cee | also updating gcc and some other stuff |
| 02:32 | thor_ | ah, if only I ran debian |
| 02:33 | o_cee | oh, so you're a suser? :) |
| 02:33 | thor_ | heh |
| 02:33 | o_cee | that's the worst i could think of, haha |
| 02:33 | thor_ | I've run slackware for a long time, and I'm just too used to it to change |
| 02:34 | o_cee | running gentoo, quite nice actually |
| 02:35 | thor_ | stupid really, I would have saved myself a lot of time by getting up to speed with another distribution |
| 02:35 | thor_ | penny wise and pound foolish |
| 02:35 | o_cee | heh |
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| 02:38 | Chutt | why can't people manage to copy an existing coding style? |
| 02:38 | Chutt | how hard is it? |
| 02:38 | o_cee | it isn't |
| 02:38 | thor_ | heh, I _still_ have problems with "stop at column 80" :-) |
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| 02:39 | o_cee | btw, you changed maxpowers menu alternatives and helptext right? |
| 02:39 | thor_ | me ? |
| 02:39 | o_cee | no Chutt |
| 02:39 | o_cee | maybe it was just the helptext |
| 02:40 | o_cee | dammit, it was Xavier |
| 02:40 | o_cee | setHelpText(QObject::tr("Media Monitoring should be turn on to " |
| 02:40 | o_cee | + "allow this feature (Setup -> General -> CD/DVD Monitor")) |
| 02:40 | o_cee | :) |
| 02:40 | Chutt | yes, i fixed it to be english. |
| 02:41 | o_cee | great ;) |
| 02:41 | o_cee | even worse than me |
| 02:41 | thor_ | ah, was worried a maxpowers patch had gone in |
| 02:41 | o_cee | wonder if that's the guy from the goldmember movie.. |
| 02:42 | o_cee | thor_: hey, with that mfd stuff, you could have _my_ pictures in your mythgallery :D |
| 02:42 | thor_ | yup |
| 02:42 | o_cee | that would be cool |
| 02:42 | o_cee | you probably don't want them all, but, heheh |
| 02:42 | thor_ | iPhoto has a protocol called dpap |
| 02:42 | thor_ | for images and albums |
| 02:43 | thor_ | which I want to copy |
| 02:43 | thor_ | but I'll need to buy a Mac first, 'cause it's not available for Windows |
| 02:43 | o_cee | will it be? |
| 02:43 | thor_ | I dunno, they have no hardware to push for that ... |
| 02:44 | o_cee | true |
| 02:44 | thor_ | (other than macs) |
| 02:45 | thor_ | but the same idea, network transparent access to services |
| 02:45 | o_cee | seems nice |
| 02:45 | o_cee | and it's a good reason to get a shiny g5 |
| 02:46 | thor_ | oh, that brings up a question ... Chutt, does the "native player" take a QFile as input ? |
| 02:46 | Chutt | takes a path |
| 02:47 | thor_ | just a string of the path ? |
| 02:47 | Chutt | a url, really. |
| 02:47 | thor_ | but if it wants to seek, does it do C style seeking, or does it call QFile::at(), etc? |
| 02:48 | thor_ | or does that question make any sense? |
| 02:48 | Chutt | does c style seeking |
| 02:48 | thor_ | crap |
| 02:48 | thor_ | oh well, bit more work |
| 02:48 | Chutt | could be rewritten, of course |
| 02:48 | thor_ | yup |
| 02:49 | Chutt | captain_murdoch, you here? |
| 02:49 | o_cee | wonder what happened to bruce, he haven't mailed the list in a while and he haven't responded to the mail david or me sent.. |
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| 02:56 | Chutt | o_cee, i believe i know what the crash is. |
| 02:56 | o_cee | oh? |
| 02:56 | Chutt | i'll commit a fix later tonight. |
| 02:56 | o_cee | great, i'll keep an eye on -commits |
| 02:57 | o_cee | i know how i trigger it |
| 02:57 | thor_ | well, if you know how to trigger it, someone could write a watchdog against that condition and then restart the backend |
| 02:58 | Chutt | that's a good idea! |
| 02:59 | thor_ | easiest thing would just be a gdb extension that catches all segfaults and reruns the executable |
| 02:59 | o_cee | going to try chris kennedys new ivtv stuff now.. bbiaw |
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| 04:00 | thor_ | it's just too friggin annoying how slow g++ is |
| 04:01 | niqo | yea, incredible slow |
| 04:01 | Chutt | yes, yes it is |
| 04:02 | o_cee | Chutt: building current cvs now |
| 04:02 | thor_ | watching libavcoded (gcc) versus libmyth (g++) is a nightmare |
| 04:02 | thor_ | libavcodec |
| 04:03 | niqo | anyone up for the task of rewriting in c, so that we all can enjoy fast compile times? |
| 04:04 | thor_ | we await your patches |
| 04:04 | thor_ | :-) |
| 04:04 | thor_ | knight, you still there ? |
| 04:06 | niqo | uh, cvs slow, u compiling on 10.11.0.11 chutt? |
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| 04:07 | Chutt | machine's sending out email. |
| 04:07 | _Da5iD_ | is there a way to check for problems with mythgallery not using opengl transitions? |
| 04:08 | niqo | ah |
| 04:11 | _Da5iD_ | how do the gl transitions look anyway? are they nice? just wondering. |
| 04:12 | Chutt | all you have to do is enable them in the settings |
| 04:12 | Chutt | and yeah, they look fairly good |
| 04:15 | _Da5iD_ | I have enabled them in settings... and also used configure --enable-opengl.. all I get is standard flip transitions.. |
| 04:15 | _Da5iD_ | I just want to see what can be improved upon in them. |
| 04:16 | _Da5iD_ | Hope I don't get bashed, but I love the way windoze media center does the slideshow.. great with music. |
| 04:17 | thor_ | abuse |
| 04:18 | Captain_Murdo | | Chutt, do you think that error o_cee is getting is related to using "unsigned char mask[loops][height * width];" instead of "unsigned char *mask = new char[loops][height * width];" |
| 04:19 | Chutt | captain_murdoch, well, the second won't work |
| 04:19 | Chutt | that's not proper syntax :p |
| 04:20 | Chutt | but yeah, i think you were overflowing the stack |
| 04:20 | Captain_Murdo | | :) |
| 04:20 | Chutt | see my commit a few minutes back? |
| 04:20 | Captain_Murdo | | no, I get those emails really late sometimes for some reason. |
| 04:20 | Captain_Murdo | | I'll look on the archive. |
| 04:20 | Captain_Murdo | | and cvs.mythtv.org |
| 04:21 | Captain_Murdo | | been up having to do real work during our nightly maintenance window. |
| 04:21 | Chutt | ah |
| 04:22 | Captain_Murdo | | when I just saw his gdb output on the -dev list I noticed it was on a line using mask and wondered if that was the problem. |
| 04:22 | Chutt | same |
| 04:22 | | * Captain_Murd is still trying to force himself into c++ syntax sometimes. |
| 04:23 | Chutt | then i realized how much you were allocating on the stack :p |
| 04:23 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, and it's worse because he's doing full-pal resolution. |
| 04:23 | Captain_Murdo | | on my low-res 352x480 (or even worse my wife's 320x240 shows) ;) the problem wasn't prominent. |
| 04:24 | Chutt | heh |
| 04:24 | Captain_Murdo | | she'll never know. |
| 04:24 | Captain_Murdo | | as long as CSI is nice and clear. |
| 04:25 | _Da5iD_ | nevermind.. don't drink and compute.. it's bad.. I somehow figured it out with only 2 brain cells to spare. |
| 04:26 | | * Captain_Murd wonders how he accidentilly committed that method to commercial_skip.cpp with all those tabs. |
| 04:26 | Chutt | i was going to convert those, but was too lazy |
| 04:27 | Captain_Murdo | | just did so when I commit they'll be fixed. |
| 04:27 | Chutt | anyway, sleep time for me |
| 04:28 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, back to bed for me. although my wife isn't too happy, I must have hit the snooze instead of turning my alarm off when I got up earlier. :( |
| 04:28 | Chutt | heh |
| 04:28 | Chutt | oops |
| 04:29 | Captain_Murdo | | and she doesn't know how to work my alarm so she just hit it a bunch of times. it's sitting beside me now because I just came in and unplugged it. :) |
| 04:29 | Captain_Murdo | | anyway, later. thanks for looking at/fixing that. |
| 04:29 | Chutt | i think my fix works |
| 04:29 | Chutt | i didn't test it or anything |
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| 04:37 | o_cee | i'm still building |
| 04:38 | o_cee | new gcc as well |
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| 04:50 | o_cee | Chutt: no immediate segfault like it used to :) |
| 04:52 | thor_ | o_cee, try: |
| 04:52 | thor_ | ./mDNSProxyResponderPosix 208.185.11.58 www.aa-dw.com "MythMusic (DAAP) on www" _daap._tcp. 3689 & |
| 04:53 | o_cee | one sec |
| 04:53 | thor_ | with an mfd running |
| 04:53 | thor_ | :-) |
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| 08:27 | tz-afk | are there instructions anywhere for compiling wiht qt/embedded? The latest /embedded is 3.0.7 |
| 08:27 | tz-afk | and myth 0.14 says it wants 3.1+ |
| 08:27 | tz-afk | am I using qt/embedded CVS (does such a thing exist)? or do I just hack the configure script to ignore that error? |
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| 09:06 | niqo | hmm, i have qte v3.1.2-2 here (debian:sid) |
| 09:06 | niqo | and the only thing you need to do is edit the settings.pro file, and comment out the Xv stuff and enabling directfb, then point qtdir to the correct directory.. |
| 09:25 | niqo | Chutt, looking at the 'HDTV playback & GF4' thread in -users, would it make sense to get rid of the OPTFLAGS in config.mak, and use the settings.pro flags (except for debugging)? |
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| 09:40 | gulliver | hi all |
| 09:41 | gulliver | can someone tell me, how I have to define module-"actions", which can be called from a menu.xml-file? |
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| 09:50 | tz-afk | niqo: hmm ok thanks! |
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| 10:10 | tzanger | hmm qte was only 3.0.7 up on trolltech's site |
| 10:11 | tzanger | I'm an idiot |
| 10:11 | tzanger | nevermind thank you niqo |
| 10:12 | kvandivo | "Hopefully this will reduce questions to the mailinglist by about 50%. Great :)" Now _there_ is an optimist. |
| 10:19 | rkulagow_ | well, it's not like users are reading the error messages that they get _now_, but this will fix _everything_! :) |
| 10:20 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 10:25 | tzanger | should qte be compiled with threading? |
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| 10:34 | niqo | tzanger: yes |
| 10:34 | niqo | tzanger: and mysql |
| 10:37 | niqo | rkulagow_: if it wasn't for the fact that audio isn't working at that point, i would have made it play a repeating 'sound does not work, sou..' :) |
| 10:41 | rkulagow_ | well, if you're going to do that, then add bleep/bloop feedback to keypresses. that way you know if the IR receiver got the key you just pressed or didn't. |
| 10:41 | kvandivo | just copy the tivo sounds and make it complete |
| 10:43 | mikegrb | yeah |
| 10:45 | niqo | seriously tho, it will probably remove about 10%, because most of the messages are not about audio initialization problems, but that they record silence.. |
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| 10:50 | tzanger | niqo: compile qte with teh mysql sql driver? |
| 11:12 | niqo | right |
| 11:13 | tzanger | ahh crap |
| 11:13 | tzanger | ok |
| 11:13 | tzanger | :-) |
| 11:14 | tzanger | I wonder how much work it would be to make mythtv's backend happy with ODBC... mysql's such a pain |
| 11:14 | tzanger | I wonder if sqlite has odbc support |
| 11:14 | tzanger | http://www.ch-werner.de/sqliteodbc/ |
| 11:14 | tzanger | wild |
| 11:15 | tzanger | :-) |
| 11:15 | tzanger | I would suggest postgres but that's like using a cannon to swat a fly, and if you go for odbc you can satisfy everyone, even the MS Access weenies |
| 11:17 | tzanger | ./configure -no-stl -thread -depths 24,32 -plugin-sql-mysql |
| 11:17 | tzanger | sound good? |
| 11:18 | tzanger | (using pvr350 for output) |
| 11:23 | niqo | think u should remove the -no-stl |
| 11:24 | niqo | but seriously, read a howto, or search the -users/-dev list |
| 11:25 | tzanger | niqo: the howto does not describe building qt nor how to do the directfb version, which is why I was asking here |
| 11:25 | tzanger | but yeah I'll get into the lists |
| 11:25 | tzanger | I had mythtv up once, I can do it again :-) |
| 11:25 | niqo | last hint, enable all image types |
| 11:26 | tzanger | niqo: all enabled but gif |
| 11:26 | tzanger | png/mng/jpeg |
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| 12:07 | Truin | mornin'! |
| 12:09 | Truin | so, I found this great deal on a mobo/cpu on TigerDirect, it's a VIA C3 processor. So far, linux installed and mythtv build going well.... |
| 12:10 | rkulagow_ | truin: a few people purchased it as well. check the archives; doesn't seem to work too well. (it's the $5 special, right?) |
| 12:12 | Truin | yeah, was the $5 special. So far, it seems to be working fine - of course, I don't actually have Myth RUNNING on it yet, just getting it built. |
| 12:14 | rkulagow_ | truin: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=107398;search_string=tigerdirect;guest=2381547&t=search_engine#107398 |
| 12:14 | | * Truin runs off to go read the mailing list archive. |
| 12:14 | rkulagow_ | but, maybe it'll work for you. |
| 12:14 | rkulagow_ | and if not, it was cheap, right? |
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| 12:14 | rkulagow_ | :) |
| 12:15 | Truin | if not, it becomes a new cheap system for my niece. ;) |
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| 12:20 | Truin | rkulagow_: yeah, looks like a couple people have had minor issues. But, I'm persistant, and confident that I'll get it all working. :) Everything ran in Windows just fine, and I can't see linux taxing the hardware more than a Macroshaft product would. |
| 12:21 | rkulagow_ | truin: ok, good luck then. |
| 12:21 | Truin | thanks for the warnings, tho - at least I'll know what to expect. :) |
| 12:21 | niqo | the problem would be the quality of the xfree video driver.. |
| 12:22 | Truin | well, I plan on using a PCI video card with TV-Out, as opposed to the built-in video. We'll see what playback looks like, then I'll make the decision. |
| 12:22 | Truin | If possible, I'd like to use both PCI slots on the board for pvr-250's, and find some other device to sit between the vga port and the tv. But, as I said, it all comes down to the quality of the built-in video. |
| 12:22 | niqo | why not one pvr-250 and one 350? |
| 12:23 | Truin | that's also an option |
| 12:35 | o_cee | Chutt, Captain_Murdoch: mythbackend just segfaultet så the comercial thingie is probably not yet 100% fixed. didn't have it in gdb tho, so i have to get back to you on that.. won't be today, probably not tomorrow either.. anyway, just wanted to let you know. |
| 12:37 | niqo | o_cee: about your twin channels issue; i've not done much testing with dual cards..since all i have is the nexus |
| 12:37 | o_cee | niqo: i think it was because i did mythfilldatabase --file with 0 instead 1 as sourceinput anyawy |
| 12:39 | | * o_cee is off having dinner and stuff like that |
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| 13:15 | thor_ | o_cee, still working at your end? |
| 13:15 | o_cee | thor_: i just closed down the proxy |
| 13:15 | thor_ | ah, ok |
| 13:15 | o_cee | but yeah, last time i checked it worked |
| 13:15 | thor_ | still running fine here |
| 13:15 | o_cee | feel free to use my music for testing |
| 13:15 | thor_ | heh |
| 13:16 | o_cee | i've got it open, bw is a little limited |
| 13:16 | o_cee | but do what you want with it :) |
| 13:16 | thor_ | heh |
| 13:16 | o_cee | well not what you want of course :) |
| 13:16 | thor_ | ... heh ... I need to write client code ... |
| 13:16 | o_cee | fire up 'the knife'.. or some of the cardigans.. or some sophie zelmani.. that's three great swedish groups/artists |
| 13:17 | thor_ | yup |
| 13:17 | gulliver | I'm just looking at the mythtv-playbackbox sources... The entire UI-thing is done different than in mythmusic, isn't it? |
| 13:18 | o_cee | thor_: does the binaries get slower if you build with debug? always do that nowdays |
| 13:18 | gulliver | for example there isn't the wireuptheme thing!? |
| 13:19 | tzanger | hmm |
| 13:20 | tzanger | it seems I will not be able to run Myth without X on the PVR350... the DirectFB subsystem does not seem to work with the PVR350's fb |
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| 13:22 | Chutt | why would you need directfb running? |
| 13:24 | tzanger | Chutt: that's what the mailing list seemed to suggest was needed |
| 13:24 | tzanger | if not that's great |
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| 13:24 | tzanger | settings.pro doesn't have anything for 'bare' fb output |
| 13:25 | gulliver | is a UIManagedTreeListType a list with two collums, like in the watch recordings dialog of mythtv? |
| 13:25 | o_cee | Chutt: i'll load up mythbackend into gdb and fire up a bunch of recordings tonight before i go to sleep and we'll see in the morning.. just have to remember to turn back the auto detection.. |
| 13:25 | tzanger | Chutt: can I run the frontend on the PVR350's fb? |
| 13:26 | tzanger | without X11 I mean |
| 13:26 | o_cee | in that case with qt/e |
| 13:26 | o_cee | seen someone try it, not succesully i think tho |
| 13:26 | Chutt | tzanger, it doesn't need anything for bare fb output |
| 13:26 | tzanger | the frontend? |
| 13:26 | Chutt | you're using the pvr-350 for video display, not the fb |
| 13:26 | tzanger | not just video playback but the menus and everything |
| 13:27 | Chutt | that's what using qt/e does for you. |
| 13:27 | tzanger | ok |
| 13:27 | tzanger | just making sure. :-) |
| 13:27 | Chutt | of course |
| 13:27 | Chutt | it's much easier to just use X |
| 13:27 | o_cee | tzanger: you might want to check ivtv-devel, there's some intresting development going on |
| 13:27 | Chutt | using the framebuffer doesn't gain you anything |
| 13:28 | Chutt | and it's likely to be slower. |
| 13:28 | tzanger | Chutt: leaner system is all |
| 13:28 | | * o_cee is awy watching a move.. brother bear actually ;) |
| 13:29 | Chutt | yeah, i can't live without the 20MB that X and a window manager are using on my pvr-350 machine. |
| 13:29 | tzanger | no need to be a smart ass now |
| 13:29 | tzanger | I'm not demanding anyone make it work for me, just asking around and experimenting |
| 13:29 | Chutt | sure there is, you annoyed me. |
| 13:30 | tzanger | that's a shame |
| 13:30 | niqo | i must say i liked the faster startup time when trying qte the other day |
| 13:31 | tzanger | I have to admit that the primary reason I'm trying out mythtv is because I rather like the weather plugin. :-) |
| 13:31 | tzanger | recording tv is secondary :-) |
| 13:31 | Chutt | you can go use freevo now, since they ripped off the weather plugin pretty much exactly |
| 13:31 | Chutt | :p |
| 13:31 | Chutt | reused the graphics and everything |
| 13:32 | tzanger | haha |
| 13:32 | niqo | and myhtpc apparently ripped the icons out of G.A.N.T. |
| 13:32 | Chutt | everyone's using gant now :p |
| 13:32 | Chutt | it's an icon set, oc was just the first to use it for something like this |
| 13:32 | tzanger | actually I do have a question on the sql use -- was there an advantage to using mysql over something like sqlite? Myth doesn't seem to be a very heavy database hitter |
| 13:32 | | * jams prefer's onemyth :) |
| 13:32 | niqo | why don't they all just install mythtv |
| 13:32 | niqo | ah |
| 13:32 | Chutt | remote access |
| 13:32 | Chutt | sqllite doesn't do it. |
| 13:33 | Chutt | it also didn't play well with threads, last i checked |
| 13:33 | tzanger | true |
| 13:33 | tzanger | just curious |
| 13:33 | tzanger | there's an odbc plugin for sqlite now too but that doesn't solve the remote access parts |
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| 13:34 | Chutt | qt has db access plugins for a bunch of databases |
| 13:34 | Chutt | so you can theoretically use whatever. |
| 13:34 | tzanger | yeah I was looking at that |
| 13:34 | tzanger | I want to get it running first, then start playing more |
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| 13:35 | thor_ | o_cee, I'm taking it down .. I thinkwe can call the experiment a success |
| 13:40 | | * niqo is looking forward to downloading xfree86 cvs source, patching it for cle266, and making debs out of it... |
| 13:41 | tzanger | hmm |
| 13:41 | | * tzanger is googling around to see if the 2700 satellite receiver can be controlled via serial |
| 13:42 | jams | apparently kernel 2.6 ivtv+patch AND lirc do not play well together |
| 13:44 | niqo | goddamn, the debian directory of the xfree source package is crouded.. |
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| 14:12 | rkulagow | captain_murdoch: are you here? |
| 14:14 | kvandivo | are you here, Captain_Murdoch? It's me, kvandivo. |
| 14:15 | Chutt | heh |
| 14:15 | Chutt | rkulagow, hey, how's that users guide coming? =) |
| 14:16 | rkulagow | good. i just made some ringbuffer graphics and will use them to explain "how come channel changes happen right away in xawtv but not in myth?" |
| 14:16 | rkulagow | kvandivo: c_m might be lurking, you know. that's why i asked so nicely. |
| 14:16 | Chutt | cool |
| 14:16 | Chutt | can i see it? =) |
| 14:16 | rkulagow | sure, give me a second. i'll send you a pdf |
| 14:16 | kvandivo | of course, rk.. the wording just struck me as intriguing |
| 14:17 | niqo | mdz: around (about mythtv-database)? |
| 14:17 | thor_ | but ... but ... but ... couldn't the ringbuffer start later |
| 14:17 | kvandivo | Chutt, if compiling on your epia is anywhere even remotely close to being as slow as compiling on the xbox I can see why you don't do it very often |
| 14:18 | Chutt | kvandivo, it'd be about 50% slower, i'd say |
| 14:18 | rkulagow | chutt: on the way. |
| 14:18 | Chutt | rkulagow, cool |
| 14:18 | rkulagow | work in progress, yadda, yadda. |
| 14:18 | Chutt | i'm halfway through rewriting large parts of this cd audio writing patch to mythmusic |
| 14:19 | kvandivo | globalsettings.cpp is, literally, about a 2 hour compile |
| 14:19 | Chutt | so i wanted something else to do for a few minutes :p |
| 14:19 | Chutt | kvandivo, oh, well, that's faster |
| 14:19 | rkulagow | i never got my screenshots from the guy who was super-jazzed about helping. oh, well. |
| 14:19 | Chutt | since i have 256MB of ram |
| 14:19 | Chutt | kvandivo, distcc |
| 14:19 | thor_ | hmmm |
| 14:19 | thor_ | cool |
| 14:19 | kvandivo | ya.. as soon as the 'box hits swap things really start crawling.. in particular because it is using a loopback filesystem |
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| 14:20 | kvandivo | i've got the cachecc stuff going.. haven't messed with distcc yet.. as you say, one tries to not compile on the slow boxes unless absolutely necessary. :) |
| 14:22 | Chutt | i've been using distcc on the epia-m |
| 14:23 | Chutt | just have it set to compile on my xp1800+, so it only uses the local cpu for linking |
| 14:23 | niqo | and preprocessing.. |
| 14:23 | Chutt | yeah, but that doesn't take much time at all |
| 14:24 | niqo | thanks for committing |
| 14:24 | Chutt | rkulagow, looks good =) |
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| 14:25 | Magick | -----Original Message----- |
| 14:25 | Magick | From: omg@wired.ie [mailto:omg@wired.ie] |
| 14:25 | Magick | Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:24 AM |
| 14:25 | Magick | buritto: full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com |
| 14:25 | Magick | Subject: [Full-Disclosure] RE: Multiple WinXP kernel vulns can give user |
| 14:25 | Magick | mode programs kernel mode |
| 14:25 | Magick | Alun Jones spouted this |
| 14:25 | Magick | > These are not vulnerabilities at all. This is how the SeDebugPrivilege is |
| 14:25 | Magick | > supposed to work. |
| 14:25 | Magick | No its not. |
| 14:25 | Magick | This could be used for bypasses host based IDS for one thing, I think |
| 14:25 | Magick | thats pretty useful from an attackers point of view no? Theres quite a few |
| 14:25 | Magick | prodcuts that try and protect the NT kernel from modification by hooking |
| 14:25 | Magick | the SCM calls and NtSetSystemInformation(and \\device\physicalmemory of |
| 14:25 | Magick | course) so that you cant load a .sys file. Also this allows you to modify |
| 14:25 | Magick | the kernel without having a .sys file which is kinda cool. |
| 14:25 | Magick | Its more informative than the 'gayer than aids' thread anyway |
| 14:25 | Magick | _______________________________________________ |
| 14:25 | rkulagow | chutt: thanks. lots of it are just straight block copies from other stuff i had lying around, so the "flow" isn't there yet. plus, you can see why i wanted o_cee to help with graphics. |
| 14:25 | Magick | Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. |
| 14:25 | Magick | Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html |
| 14:26 | Magick | that sucked |
| 14:26 | Magick | sorry about that |
| 14:26 | Chutt | rkulagow, yeah |
| 14:26 | rkulagow | at least it wasn't a paste of something you were going to post in an S&M group |
| 14:26 | Chutt | it's a start, though =) |
| 14:26 | Magick | heh yah |
| 14:27 | rkulagow | chutt: yup. going to incorporate keys.txt into a prettier version in the guide. |
| 14:27 | rkulagow | bruce has helped a bunch |
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| 14:50 | knight | thor you around? |
| 14:50 | thor_ | yup |
| 14:50 | knight | sorry i disappeared last night |
| 14:51 | knight | Ive been sick, and I went to lay down to watch tv, and didn't anticipate that I'd fall asleep :) |
| 14:51 | thor_ | that's ok, it was getting late :-) |
| 14:51 | knight | Yeah |
| 14:51 | knight | Still interested in playing with it? |
| 14:52 | thor_ | I played with it with o_cee last night, but there's one other thing I'd like to check, give me 5-10 minutes |
| 14:52 | knight | alright |
| 14:55 | | * niqo puts a spell on his vim so it looses the ability to insert tabs |
| 14:56 | kvandivo | that easy enough to set in your vimrc file |
| 14:58 | niqo | Chutt, audiooutputoss.cpp:~89, you inserted a return in the while, why? |
| 14:59 | niqo | and just below that, you still have the perror, even though the verbose has strerror.. |
| 15:00 | kvandivo | did you go over 80 columns? |
| 15:00 | Chutt | because it should return there |
| 15:00 | Chutt | that's a fatal error |
| 15:00 | Chutt | no need to keep retrying it. |
| 15:00 | niqo | k, modify the error message then :) |
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| 15:07 | thor_ | knight, you still around ? |
| 15:09 | mdz | niqo: ? |
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| 15:14 | niqo | mdz: i've made some cvs builds based off of your debs for mythtv, but every time i install/upgrade, the mysql.txt file gets changed (chown 660), isn't this kinda intrusive? I guess it's not a big problem for once per month releases, but.. (i know how to fix it myself, just wanted to inform) |
| 15:15 | knight | thor, yeah |
| 15:15 | thor_ | can you update to mfd cvs of a few minutes ago ? |
| 15:15 | knight | thor, sure, hang on |
| 15:16 | mdz | niqo: no, I don't think it is...why do you want it to have different permissions? |
| 15:16 | knight | thor, done |
| 15:16 | thor_ | built and running ? |
| 15:16 | knight | yep |
| 15:16 | thor_ | try ./mDNSProxyResponderPosix 208.185.11.50 208.185.11.50 "MythMusic (DAAP) on www" _daap._tcp. 3689 |
| 15:17 | knight | ack wait |
| 15:17 | knight | i think mfd cr |
| 15:18 | knight | just crashed my myth box |
| 15:18 | thor_ | heh |
| 15:18 | knight | heh, i lost ssh, and cant get back in... let me power cycle |
| 15:18 | niqo | mdz: i always to changes here and there, and at least the other debs usually have the courtesy of asking.. (dunno, only about a week old on the debian method anyways) |
| 15:18 | thor_ | it's emailing your cc details to Uzbekistan |
| 15:18 | knight | haha |
| 15:19 | mdz | niqo: it would be a little silly to ask about the permissions on every file. I think what you want is dpkg-statoverride |
| 15:19 | knight | well, just so you know, i ran mfd when mythbackend wasnt running |
| 15:19 | thor_ | doesn't care about mythbackend |
| 15:19 | thor_ | (yet) |
| 15:19 | knight | thats what i thought |
| 15:20 | niqo | mdx: thanks; `man dpkg-statoverride`; read manpage :) |
| 15:22 | niqo | mdz: yup, that's it! |
| 15:22 | niqo | mdz: sorry to bother you.. |
| 15:22 | mdz | niqo: however, I just noticed that while the script tries to honor dpkg-statoverride for mysql.txt, it doesn't actually work due to later changes I made |
| 15:23 | mdz | niqo: I'm going to fix it though |
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| 15:24 | niqo | mdz: yea, i can see that now.. |
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| 15:48 | knight | damn |
| 15:48 | knight | nothing in syslog about the hang |
| 15:48 | knight | i bet it's ivtv |
| 15:49 | thor_ | i doubt it's the mfd |
| 15:49 | thor_ | :-) |
| 15:49 | knight | well, mythbackend and mfd have been causing the hangs |
| 15:49 | knight | because of ivtv |
| 15:49 | knight | the box stays up when neither are running |
| 15:49 | thor_ | ivtv |
| 15:49 | knight | but i get all kinds of wicked hangs |
| 15:49 | knight | yep |
| 15:49 | knight | mfd calls stuff in libmyth that talks to ivtv right? |
| 15:49 | thor_ | nope |
| 15:50 | knight | weird |
| 15:50 | thor_ | just talks to the database |
| 15:50 | knight | then i wonder why mfd caused the hang |
| 15:50 | knight | let's try again :) |
| 15:50 | thor_ | k |
| 15:50 | thor_ | only hardware mfd touches is optical drives |
| 15:51 | knight | hmm |
| 15:51 | knight | lemme tail some logs |
| 15:51 | niqo | mdz: any chance you'll enable alsa and arts? or will that just bring to much of a depend chain? |
| 15:52 | knight | -rw------- 1 root root 1300175676 Feb 20 12:52 messages |
| 15:52 | knight | yikes, i should clear that out |
| 15:52 | knight | hah |
| 15:55 | niqo | i really vote for some sort of general plugin support, so that package maintainers can build packages like mythtv-plugin-arts with only the needed deps.. |
| 15:56 | niqo | because one thing i really hate is having a bunch of unneded packages... |
| 15:56 | thor_ | for example ... |
| 15:56 | knight | yeah, what is needed is another layer of plugins |
| 15:57 | knight | and in that layer, all the abstraction code can exist |
| 15:57 | knight | then any mythplugin can utilize any subplugin |
| 15:58 | knight | I think what would be nice is the ability to have mythplugins loaded with no GUI |
| 15:58 | niqo | thor_: bet the mfd alrady has pretty good plugin code.. |
| 15:58 | thor_ | well, it's all plugins |
| 15:58 | knight | then they can all talk to each other, and only the one with "user focus" is showing |
| 15:58 | niqo | hence.. |
| 15:58 | thor_ | but I have no idea if they're "good" |
| 15:58 | knight | then you can interact with all mythplugins at once.. i.e. play music in mythmusic while browsing in mythnews |
| 15:59 | thor_ | yup |
| 15:59 | niqo | like arts alone requires 10-15 packages, iirc |
| 16:00 | knight | well, people installing release packages have very little dep issues |
| 16:00 | knight | since they refer to all the dependancies |
| 16:00 | niqo | but it would also have enabled binary packages like mythtv-plugin(-xvmc-nvidia|-xvmc-i810) |
| 16:00 | knight | it's us cvs users that have problems handling all the deps |
| 16:01 | niqo | the binary package users are missing some features.. |
| 16:01 | knight | thor, ok, i have a couple logs tailed, here goes with mfd again |
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| 16:01 | knight | thor, is there a way to enable runtime debugging in mfd? |
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| 16:10 | thor_ | knight. ./mfd -l 10 |
| 16:10 | thor_ | give a _lot_ of information |
| 16:11 | thor_ | gives |
| 16:11 | knight | thor, ok, hang on |
| 16:11 | knight | I'll redir that to a log |
| 16:11 | thor_ | mfd -d -l 10 |
| 16:12 | thor_ | write a log |
| 16:12 | thor_ | writes |
| 16:12 | knight | oh ok |
| 16:12 | thor_ | somewhere :-) |
| 16:12 | knight | hah |
| 16:12 | knight | probably from where you execute it right? |
| 16:12 | thor_ | probably /usr/local/share/mfd.log |
| 16:12 | knight | ok |
| 16:13 | thor_ | /usr/local/share/mythtv/mfd.log |
| 16:13 | knight | i'm rechecking out sources with my script, hang on |
| 16:13 | thor_ | or mfdctl -l 10 |
