TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#mythtv:2004:02:19

---	Log	opened Thu Feb 19 00:00:38 2004
---	Day	changed Thu Feb 19 2004
00:00	mdz	mythtv-debug has certainly taken off; almost 50% of deb users installed it
00:03	Captain_Murdo	\| rkulagow: the slave backend segfaults?
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00:08	Captain_Murdo	\| MainServer::PrintStatus() assumes the backend has m_sched defined and calls m_sched->GetAllPending().
00:09	Captain_Murdo	\| probably should create a temp scheduler if m_sched is null and call m_sched->FillRecordListFromMaster().
00:11		* Captain_Murd wonders if it was him who left the "#if 1" & "#endif" around that code that gets the schedule from the master when you run --printsched.
00:16		* Captain_Murd points the finger at gigem after looking at recent cvs logs.
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01:16	Chutt	mdz, and there's been so _many_ reports from people using it :p
01:25	thor_	easier to write watchdogs if you can see it break and then realize it's really complicated
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02:17	Chutt	hum
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02:20	linagee	is it possible to love a PVR more than say..... anything else? :)
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02:27	mdz	Chutt: how could you tell if there were? :-P
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02:30	Chutt	people usually say what they're using when they send in a backtrace
02:32	mdz	I got email from someone just today who was using it
02:32	mdz	of course, he was a debian developer
02:32	mdz	but there are a lot of those getting into mythtv recently
02:33	Chutt	heh
02:33	Chutt	a bug?
02:42	mdz	not sure
02:42	mdz	it seems gdb doesn't work right on threaded programs under 2.6
02:42	Chutt	'course it doesn't
02:42	Chutt	nptl
02:43	Chutt	which debian developer?
02:43	mdz	hamish moffatt
02:43	Chutt	hamish moffat?
02:43	Chutt	heh
02:43	Chutt	read his posts to the -users list
02:43	Chutt	he asked for help writing a 3 line shell script to keep mythbackend running :p
02:43	mdz	"nothing works under 2.6"?
02:44	mdz	uh oh
02:44	Chutt	then got all pissy when i suggested that he should instead try to, you know, get a backtrace
02:44	mdz	first match has a subject line with >5 punctuation marks in it
02:44	mdz	oh, that's right, he's using DVB
02:45	Chutt	i told him why gdb wasn't working on the mailing list, why'd he bother you about it?
02:46	mdz	dunno, was that before Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:55:16 +1100 ?
02:46	Chutt	probably
02:46	mdz	that's when he mailed me
02:46	Chutt	he never responded on the list
02:47	mdz	he was asking how to use mythtv-debug
02:49	mdz	my goodness, he's been active on -users
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03:25	Chutt	there
03:26	Chutt	rkulagow, your segfault _should_ be fixed.
03:27	Captain_Murdo	\| took the easy way out on those getallpending(), etc. cases. :)
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03:28	Captain_Murdo	\| better to send them to the master http server anyway. could put a redirect on the slave backend's http to redirect to the master.
03:31	Chutt	yeah
03:32	Chutt	oh, oops, i didn't mention those changes in my commit message
03:32	Chutt	oh well
03:34	Captain_Murdo	\| you said something about the backend assuming it has a scheduler object.
03:34	Chutt	oh yeah
03:34	Chutt	it's late =)
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03:36	Chutt	so, you know your program menu during playback?
03:36	Chutt	i'm going to get rid of it pretty soon
03:37	Chutt	once the osd menu stuff's closer to finished
03:38	Captain_Murdo	\| good. :)
03:38	Captain_Murdo	\| looking foward to the menu.
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03:49	Chutt	captain_murdoch, all i really need to do is the action system, implement some code to handle radio buttons, and it'll be ready for use =)
03:51	Captain_Murdo	\| I didn't like using that dialog but it had been used before for other stuff so I kinda copied that. will this be usable as a popup menu in other places like the playback screen?
03:51	Chutt	naw
03:51	Chutt	this is OSD only, for now
03:52	Chutt	though, the uitypes version could be made into a popup for elsewhere fairly easily
03:53	Chutt	ah well, bed time
03:53	Captain_Murdo	\| ok. thought I saw you and thor talking about it one day.
03:54	Chutt	yeah, we were
03:54	Chutt	it's just going to take more time =)
03:54	Captain_Murdo	\| ditto, been doing system admin stuff at home tonight and stayed up way too late. but at least I accomplished some things I've been needing to do for a while.
04:03	niqo	morning (and gnight obviously)..
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06:30	Spida_	re
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09:36		shadowdragon \| hello?
09:36		shadowdragon \| i need a little help
09:36		shadowdragon \| with mythtv
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09:46	dja	shadowdragon: note the topic :-)
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09:58	dja	Captain_Murdoch: you around?
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10:01		shadowdragon \| sorry
10:02	dja	no problem. :-)
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10:44	o_c	segfault damn you
10:44	o_c	YEAH
10:44	o_c	it segfaultet
10:44	o_c	i'm tha king
10:45	o_c	oh crap me
10:45	o_c	Captain_Murdoch: you here?
10:45	o_c	you really need to be here right now pretty please darling
10:45	dja	you the king. :-)
10:45	o_c	Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
10:45	o_c	[Switching to Thread 245776 (LWP 7644)]
10:45	o_c	CommDetect::SearchForLogo(NuppelVideoPlayer*, bool, bool) (this=0x44fb8938, nvp=0x44f0ead0, fullSpeed=false,
10:45	o_c	verbose=false) at commercial_skip.cpp:1311
10:45	o_c	1311 nvp->GetFrame(1,true);
10:45	o_c	yeeeeaaah
10:45		* o_c does the fuuuunkyy daaance
10:45	o_c	right
10:45	o_c	no, i'm not on speed
10:46		* o_c pokes Captain_Murdoch
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10:48	Rince	g
10:51	o_cee	been getting that question all day
10:59	o_cee	bt sent to the list
10:59		* o_cee is afk
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11:22	o_cee	hi thor my fellow viking
11:25	thor_	heh
11:28	bitbyte	your last name isn't "Hiney" is it?
11:29	thor_	me?
11:29	bitbyte	ya
11:29	bitbyte	:)
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11:48	mecraw_	om
11:49	thor_	nope
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13:05	dja	o_cee: are you sure you're not on something? :-)
13:05	dja	Captain_Murdoch: you around?
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13:35	turdburglar	ok i went to mythtv-users and noone would help me (there were only 2 people there..)
13:36	turdburglar	i'm getting a wierd dependency problem.. strictdep is looking for the wrong vmlinux.. any suggestions?
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14:09	billytwowilly	\| anybody happen to know the commands required to be sent by my cable co to turn on the serial port on my dct2224?
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16:47		* o_cee sings a little
16:47	o_cee	to aaaal the happy peple
16:48	thor_	"but then again, too few to mention, ah ha ha"
16:48	o_cee	rite
16:48	o_cee	you saw my bt?
16:49	thor_	don't think so ...
16:49	o_cee	gf was _pissed_ yesterday.. half an hour missing of her favorite show
16:49	o_cee	at the end.. heh
16:49	thor_	bad
16:49	o_cee	very
16:49	thor_	no milkshakes for you
16:49	o_cee	"so you can't really trust this thing to reord stuff"
16:49	o_cee	defenately not
16:49	dja_	ack...I wish mysql had a timestamp field that wasn't a timestamp...:-)..
16:50	thor_	it does
16:50	dja_	any idea why chutt didn't use it?
16:50	thor_	timestamp is very handy if you want a time stamp
16:50	o_cee	timestamp in 'program' is annoying as hell in phpMyAdmin.. when you want to edit something it sets the time to the current time if you don't unselect "NOW"
16:50	dja_	I keep getting bitten by the fact that the start time is stored in a timestamp. I tried to update the 'recgroup' field forgetting that it would screw up the recordings (they all have a new start time :-)
16:51	dja_	yes, o_cee, exactly. :-)
16:51	o_cee	you have to send it in there again, yeah
16:51	o_cee	!seen slaytanic
16:51	dja_	now I have to go through all of my wife's recordings and try to reset their start time so she can watch them (they all say 2/19 9:32 AM right now :-)
16:51	o_cee	oh, maybe no bot here, heh
16:51	dja_	wrong channel :-)
16:51	o_cee	dja: :)
16:51	o_cee	nah, just tried ;)
16:52	o_cee	blargh
16:52	dja_	is that what "ChanServ" is in mythtv-users? (I'm still a newbie to IRC)
16:52	o_cee	logo detection works _awesome_ on at least one channel
16:52	o_cee	dja: chanserv give like ownership to a channel
16:52	o_cee	like nickserv gives ownership and stuff to nicks
16:53	o_cee	to lte you kick/ban ppl etc
16:53	dja_	ahh, thnx.
16:53	o_cee	you saw that?
16:53	o_cee	maybe not
16:53	dja_	saw what?
16:53	o_cee	nevermind, guess it's just me ;)
16:53	dja_	:)
16:54	o_cee	i identified with nickserc and got +e (identified or whatever)
16:54	o_cee	anyway
16:54	o_cee	i need to add avl balancing to my binary search tree now
16:55	thor_	o_cee, ah logo detection segfaults
16:55	o_cee	thor_: yeah, but only with multiple recordings i think
16:55	o_cee	almost as if it tries to do the one recording or s omething like that
16:55	thor_	heh, beyond my comprehension
16:55	o_cee	:)
16:56	o_cee	you started doing the mfd client?
16:56	thor_	yup
16:56	o_cee	cool
16:56	thor_	slow
16:56	thor_	but it's coming
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16:57	o_cee	steelep: you could always use autojoin you know ;)
16:57	dja_	thor_: I just sent the mythdvd patch (to set use_yv12 to 1) :-)
16:58	steelep	yeah, I gotta fix this script
16:58	o_cee	steelep: took you 40 seconds to join #mythtv ;)
16:58	steelep	it was more like an hour, it was sitting there with a different nick for a while until I noticed :)
16:58	o_cee	i've been working today, feels strange
16:59	o_cee	oh :)
16:59	dja_	anyone played with recording groups much? I'm having some troubles with new recordings ending up in 'Default' even though they're set to 'Mom'.
16:59	o_cee	dja: just tried it a little.. but then i just changed a recorded show to another group, worked well
17:00	dja_	shucks...I wonder what I've done...
17:01	dja_	I can move recordings just fine...but a recording that started 2 minutes ago is set to go into "Jane", but it's showing up in "Default". :-(
17:03	o_cee	strange
17:03	dja_	yeah...I'm not sure where to start debugging with this one.
17:04	o_cee	maybe it pops into the right group when finished ;)
17:05	dja_	I don't think so. A recording that started at 1:59PM today shows the group 'Jane' if I "Edit Recording Schedule", but it's showing up in the 'Default' Group.
17:05	o_cee	and the db i guess says default
17:06	dja_	lemme check...
17:06	dja_	yup...:-(
17:08	o_cee	and in 'record' ?
17:08	o_cee	it has to be right since you see it there
17:08	dja_	'Jane' in record and 'Default' in recorded...:-(
17:09	o_cee	yeah well it'll probably be easy for chris to fix if it's something wrong :)
17:09	knight	is there a way to force a user to stop watching a stream when the device is needed for a recording?
17:09	dja_	yeah, that's what I'm hoping, but I haven't been able to catch him. :-)
17:09	knight	i.e. an override
17:09	knight	rather than just pop up that chooser
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17:11	mdz	Chutt: does that mythmusic/goom mmx change seem sane to you?
17:12	o_cee	doesn't goom need an update anyway? maybe it's fixed already?
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17:13	Chutt	i suppose
17:13	Chutt	goom development's dead.
17:13	o_cee	oh :(
17:13	Chutt	mdz, why, you want to commit it?
17:14	Chutt	i'd think that the next asm() statement in there would need the same fix as well, but what do i know =)
17:18	mdz	Chutt: I was thinking about it, but I can't get it to fail for me
17:18	mdz	so I wasn't sure if it was his gcc or something
17:19	Chutt	don't think it hurts anything
17:19	o_cee	Chutt: is the new osd menu possible to fire up somewhere?
17:20	Chutt	not yet.
17:20	o_cee	ok
17:20	rkulagow	o_cee: are you oscar, the G.A.N.T. person?
17:20	o_cee	btw, i had a great idea yesterday :) wouldn't it be good to be able to highlight menuitems in the mainmenu? like highlight conflicts when there is one so you don't have to enter it?
17:21	o_cee	rkulagow: depends
17:21	rkulagow	o_cee: depends on whether you want to do more work, or on something else? :)
17:21	Chutt	rkulagow, hey, you see my commit last night?
17:21	o_cee	rkulagow: heh, it's me
17:22	rkulagow	chutt: yes, i did. i'm going recompile now. was there also a fix in there for connecting to a non-master? i didn't see it mentioned i don't think... (or if anyone else was able to get the same error)
17:22	rkulagow	sorry, connecting to port 6544 of a non-master makes it segfault
17:23	Chutt	yes
17:23	Chutt	that should be fixed as well, unless i missed something
17:23	rkulagow	o_cee: i'm no graphics type of person, and what i've got right now for the user guide is pretty crappy. how are you with diagrams? would you mind contributing?
17:23	rkulagow	chutt: i'll let you know then. thanks.
17:24	Chutt	great
17:24	o_cee	rkulagow: oh.. uhm, i'm not sure i'm a graphics type of person either, but what is it that you need? :)
17:26	rkulagow	i'll send you the pdf of what i've got so far. let me know if you think you could improve on it.
17:26	o_cee	sure
17:27	o_cee	Chutt: you saw the logodetection segfault?
17:30	Chutt	yeah, can't see why it'd do that, so i'm leaving it to chris
17:30	o_cee	okay
17:33	o_cee	rkulagow: i think it looks good, really :)
17:34	o_cee	(and this guide is needed, i'll read it when i got some time)
17:36	thor_	<dja_> thor_: I just sent the mythdvd patch (to set use_yv12 to 1) :-)
17:36	thor_	thanks
17:36	thor_	:-)
17:36	dja_	yer welcome :)
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17:38	solarce	Is anyone working on integration of dvd burning options into mythdvd? Or is that a good place to cut my teeth after I finish reading my shiny copy of C++ GUI Programming with QT 3?
17:39	thor_	that's a good place
17:39	solarce	cool
17:39	solarce	My other idea was a p2p client :>
17:40	thor_	that's a bad place
17:40	o_cee	someone mentioned that italian guy selling mythtv boxes had a burn module?
17:40	thor_	Leonardo
17:40	kvandivo	Da Vinci
17:40	thor_	but it burns the dvd upside down and backwards, so you can only watch the credits in a mirror
17:41	solarce	thor_: I just thought "hmm, what is one more giFT client" :)
17:41	solarce	but one a serious note, the dvd burning will be a fun project to get me oriented
17:41	thor_	yup
17:42	thor_	but try and keep the functionality and the GUI at least somewhat separate ... as burning should eventually (...) go in the mfd
17:42	solarce	well
17:43	thor_	or whatever, crawl, walk, then run
17:43	solarce	I was thinking the functionality would be handled by pre-existing tools
17:43	o_cee	heh, nooo :)
17:43	o_cee	no more dependencies dammit :)
17:44	solarce	wouldn't most people already have cdrecord installed?
17:44	thor_	there's all the logic of which tracks to include, how long are they, are they the right format, how should chapters (if any) be organized, what should the menu background be, is there a blank disc in the drive, etc., etc., etc.
17:44	o_cee	i don't.. but i don't have any cd-rom/recorder in my mythbox ;)
17:44	o_cee	so i'll just stfu
17:45	solarce	thor_: hmm, I hadn't thought about from that complex a point of view, but I like that direction :)
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18:56	o_cee	Chutt: you got my translation diff yesterday?
18:58	o_cee	hmmmmmmmmm.. i've got like all channels in 'channel' doubled.. one row with the correct info and one row with like no info in it?? is that the channel editor that fucked things up?
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19:00	o_cee	i didn't see any response if there was any
19:01	dja_	you didn't miss anything :)
19:01	o_cee	great ;)
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19:26	Sir-Al	is mythdvd developed here?
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19:28	Sir-Al	i'm getting compile errors for it, such as /usr/lib/libmyth-0.14.so: undefined reference to `XineramaIsActive'
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19:59		shadowdragon \| hi
19:59		shadowdragon \| i know this is a developers channel
19:59		shadowdragon \| but i need help
19:59		shadowdragon \| and the people in the users channel wont help
19:59		shadowdragon \| AT ALL
20:00		shadowdragon \| they are like read the how to
20:00		shadowdragon \| what is the need of a channel if noone helps you
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20:02	cmorgan	don't you want to go to mythtv-users ?
20:02	cmorgan	this is a devel channel...
20:03	cmorgan	what are we supposed to do if other mythtv users don't help? i mean seriously. its not like you paid a lot for myth
20:03		shadowdragon \| its not that its just the fact that its 1 small problem
20:03		shadowdragon \| and they are all like read the how to
20:03		shadowdragon \| well its not in the how to
20:03	knight	shadowdragon, you're committing huge sins by violating the topic.
20:03		shadowdragon \| like i said iam sorry
20:03	vuud	hey all... I have a command line utility for printing whats recorded, and other minor stuff like that (For emailing to myself). I was thinking about making a mythtv screen for it - is there any developers overview for making an add-on, or should I just breakdown an existing add on
20:04	knight	vuud, take a look at mythgallery, mythnews, and mythdvd
20:04	cmorgan	what isn't in the howto?
20:04	cmorgan	ask your question then
20:04	knight	vuud, arent there already a screen in mythtv that shows the recordings?
20:05		shadowdragon \| ok when i try to watch live tv
20:05		shadowdragon \| the sound is like 10 sec ahead of the video
20:05	vuud	knight, I was thinking about an add-on that lets you set up email notifications (like when Hogans Heros is going to be on)... stuff I already have in cron jobs, but for fun thought I would interface it. Stuff like: Notify me when the martha stewart trial is going to be on... etc.
20:06	vuud	I can't keep track of what I am recording anymore :)
20:06	cmorgan	shadowdragon: turn on the av sync in the options menu
20:06	cmorgan	that fix it?
20:07		shadowdragon \| is that in the front end or back end?
20:07	cmorgan	the frontend
20:07	knight	vuud, sounds good, perhaps you can make a pluggable notification system
20:07	thor_	<shadowdragon>, http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html
20:07		shadowdragon \| general or tv settings?
20:07	cmorgan	who knows
20:07	o_cee	shadowdragon: you excpect everything to come on a silver plate to you?
20:07	thor_	bah, dinner
20:07	o_cee	you got _lots_ of help in #mythtv-users
20:08	cmorgan	heh
20:08	knight	vuud, i.e. it would be nice to be able to send alerts to all myth frontends via mfd that a show is coming on, or perhaps send a broadcast packet on the network, and all listening computers would display the message
20:08	o_cee	you said you fixed it
20:08	o_cee	unthankful bi.. hmm
20:08	cmorgan	shadowdragon: fixed now?
20:08		shadowdragon \| checking
20:09		shadowdragon \| nope
20:09	o_cee	<shadowdragon> WOOHOOO
20:09	o_cee	<shadowdragon> i fixed it
20:09	o_cee	check your friggin rec profiles
20:09	vuud	knight, easy there... I've done a lot of development, but not in C++ so I am getting ramped up. Have no idea what MFD is... Lemme get the simple stuff down, maybe by then I'll have a better clue :)
20:10	o_cee	how the hell do i ban with chanserv? bah
20:10	knight	o_cee, you cant
20:10	o_cee	no? wtf
20:10	cmorgan	shadowdragon: you tried the experimental sync stuff and it didn't work? hmm.. no ideas man. pvr-350 has no trouble keeping things in sync
20:10	o_cee	cmorgan: that option isn't for that
20:11	knight	vuud, mfd is a daemon being written by thor. It runs parallel to the backend, and offers services like DAAP (itunes) to all computers on the network, and vice versa
20:11	knight	vuud, also, you can put a cd into one machine running mfd, and play it on any of the other mythfrontend
20:11	knight	s
20:11	knight	the idea is to seperate all services into threads in mfd
20:11	cmorgan	o_cee: i know. i never had the problem
20:11	knight	allowing mythtv to be more flexible, etc.
20:11	cmorgan	i think it did fix some sync issues on my other pc though with a normal video out
20:12	o_cee	cmorgan: bttv
20:12	lmatter	shadow dragon has bttv card and he is having trouble getting capture set right on the sound card. Usual stuff.
20:12	cmorgan	ahh
20:12	cmorgan	those bttv cards cheap cards?
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20:13	o_cee	yeah, no acceleration
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20:13	vuud	knight, so there are provisions for the threads to communicate?
20:16	Chutt	oh my
20:17	Chutt	most offtopic question to -users ever
20:17	o_cee	hehehe
20:17		* o_cee looks
20:17	o_cee	"Is this possible? Is it a job for my ISP, and not MythTV?" that one? hehehhe
20:18	Chutt	exactly
20:18	Chutt	oh, and yeah, i got your .ts patch
20:18	o_cee	:)
20:18	o_cee	good
20:18	Chutt	just been too lazy to go through and apply people's patches yet
20:18	o_cee	had serious problems with my connection yesterday
20:18	o_cee	np :)
20:18	knight	vuud, i cant quite say really... mfd is fairly new. it's been in cvs for some time now
20:18	knight	vuud, but really, you'd want to create something in mfd that would send out notifications
20:19	knight	then, other mfd daemons or other apps could respond
20:19	knight	i.e. a little app sitting on a winxp box that shows the notification on the screen
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20:22	vuud	knight, yeah hook into an IM system :)... Well I am still at the point where I get error messages that make me go "WTF does that mean"... Don't expect something new tomorrow :)
20:26	o_cee	"Things that I had otherwise
20:26	o_cee	been told were impossible, such as using Mythgame with the PVR 350,
20:26	o_cee	worked flawlessly using KnoppMyth. I could never get any emulator to
20:26	o_cee	work before with Gentoo and my 350, but they all work with Knoppmyth." <-- hmmm
20:26	o_cee	that, i'd love to know how he did, hehehhehe
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20:30	dja_	o_cee: I think I fixed my recording group problem, I'm waiting for the next recording to start to confirm it. :-)
20:30	o_cee	oh? what was it?
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20:31	dja_	if I'm correct, chris forgot to include recgroup when writing the data to the recorded table. :-)
20:31	o_cee	makes sense :)
20:34	dja_	cool, it worked. I'll send a patch to mythtv-dev.
20:38	dja_	patch away (sent to mythtv-dev)...time to get some wife-time (spent way to much working on myth this evening :-)
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20:43	o_cee	no mr. pinkham today :/
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20:55	thor_	where is the setting in myth to control the fluoride level in my drinking water
20:59	o_cee	general -> water settings of course
20:59	thor_	backend or frontend ?
21:00	o_cee	backend (because you know you have the fridge in the back..) so, it's the back(end) of all eternity
21:00	thor_	k
21:01	o_cee	it's in the howto
21:01	thor_	can't read that, don't own a mouse
21:02	o_cee	dang
21:02	thor_	just a pile of scroll wheels
21:02	o_cee	you got one pointing frim your fingers to your elbow?
21:06	o_cee	thor_: you got time now to do the thing?
21:06	thor_	o_cee, if you want to try the trans-atlantic mfd thing, you'll need this: http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/rendezvous/source/Rendezvous.tar.gz
21:06	o_cee	allright
21:06	thor_	to proxy my machine as a "local" daap resource
21:07	o_cee	lemme grab it
21:07	thor_	and I need to flip a couple things arounf
21:07	thor_	around
21:07	o_cee	Length: 3,012 [text/html]
21:07	o_cee	blah
21:07	thor_	free registration required
21:08	o_cee	k
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21:08	knight	thor, trans-atlantic?
21:09	thor_	heh
21:09	vuud	Can someone tell me if channel.channum could ever not be numeric? Its varchar now.. Is there a reason?
21:09	thor_	gonna see if o_cee can play my content via mfd <--> mfd
21:10	o_cee	"Please make up a question and answer that you will remember to help us verify your identity if you forget your password:" i really hate those
21:11	knight	thor, _pimp_
21:12	knight	thor, are you tunnelling?
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21:12	thor_	building on a laptop, then going to put that outside the firewall
21:13	thor_	crap, old ssl .... this may take a little while
21:13	knight	i.e. how are you connecting across the web? custom socket code to broadcast the rendevous across, or a tunnel?
21:13	knight	s/web/internet/
21:13	knight	I can't believe I just said that.
21:13	knight	I called the internet "the web"
21:14	o_cee	ahem
21:14	thor_	daap server and client is just socket stuff, need the Apple dns proxy to make o_cee's machine realize there's a daapserver out beyond the first router hop
21:15	thor_	I have to tell him the IP and port number
21:15	knight	ahhh, then you wrote code to connect to it?
21:15	thor_	it's not designed (by, uhm, design) to work beyond the lan
21:15	knight	right
21:16	thor_	mfd has both daap client and daap server built in
21:16	o_cee	uhm, what do i need to do with this file?
21:16	thor_	compile it
21:16	o_cee	wich dir
21:16	thor_	on its own
21:16	thor_	/usr/local/src/
21:16	thor_	or whatever
21:16	knight	thor, yeah i was just trying to see how you were connecting them... so the dns proxy
21:17	knight	run it on each end, and have each end talk to the other proxy?
21:17	thor_	the Mdns proxy, yup
21:17	thor_	just for discovery
21:17	knight	yep
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21:31	o_cee	there you are :)
21:32	Captain_Murdo	\| yeah, saw you looking for me and was hiding.
21:32	Captain_Murdo	\| haven't had a chance to look at that segfault yet, getting ready to.
21:32	o_cee	thought so :)
21:32	o_cee	cool
21:32	o_cee	only think it happens if there's more than one recording..
21:33		* pcjabber is away: Sorry, AFK atm...Will be back soon! (XChat 2.0.7)
21:33	o_cee	logo detection is working really well btw.. at least on one of my channels, havent' had that much time to try it on the other yet
21:33		* pcjabber is back (gone 00:00:03)
21:33	Captain_Murdo	\| hmm, each recording should have it's own commdetect and player.
21:35	Sir-Al	can't compile mythdvd-0.14
21:35	Sir-Al	complains about xinerama even though i have nothing to do with it
21:35	o_cee	wrong channel
21:37	Captain_Murdo	\| o_cee, so you had 3 recordings total. two started, then one finished and started flagging while a third started recording. is that right?
21:38	o_cee	yeah, that should be right
21:38		* pcjabber is away: BRB...going to load up some tune-age =)
21:39	o_cee	at least there was 2 in progress, but i think a third one started as well
21:39	o_cee	ah yeah it did
21:40	Captain_Murdo	\| why is it saying it recorded "Omaka systrar" twice at the same time on the same channel/card/input.
21:41	o_cee	one sec, lemme check
21:41	o_cee	where do you see that?
21:41		* pcjabber is back (gone 00:02:53)
21:43	Captain_Murdo	\| hmm, must have been cause I used the scrollbar to scroll up instead of cursoring up in vi. :)
21:43	Captain_Murdo	\| nevermind. :)
21:43	o_cee	hehhe :)
21:43	Captain_Murdo	\| thought it was weird.
21:52	o_cee	Captain_Murdoch: confusing?
21:53	Captain_Murdo	\| yeah, got interrupted for a bit though.
21:54	o_cee	i don't wanna know (or do i) hmm.. this work thing isn't good for me, i've been on speed all day
21:54	Captain_Murdo	\| there was only 1 flagging running because there's only 1 "recordingonly to none" and 2 concurrent recordings going on also.
21:54	pcjabber	Semi-OT: I am planning on developing a picture for the LPP startup screen (http://freshmeat.net/projects/lpp/?topic_id=143) for Myth. Interested?
21:55	o_cee	i've done oen alerady
21:55	pcjabber	really?
21:55	pcjabber	cool
21:55	o_cee	of course
21:56	pcjabber	do you have a screenshot?
21:56	o_cee	nope
21:56	o_cee	no digital camera
21:56	o_cee	but i can send it to you
21:56	pcjabber	k cool
21:57	pcjabber	thank you =)
21:57	pcjabber	how did you do that?
21:57	pcjabber	Sorry, i'm semi-new to IRC =)
21:57	o_cee	send the file? hehe..
21:57	o_cee	it's 4 am here.. heh.. won't explain that
21:57	o_cee	:)
21:57	pcjabber	lol
21:57	pcjabber	I know its DCC
21:58	o_cee	weh:)
21:58	pcjabber	better read up on IRC =)
22:00	pcjabber	looks great
22:00	pcjabber	even better, for bootsplash =)
22:01	o_cee	got something for gant here as well, but i haven't had time to finish it up
22:01	pcjabber	extract to /etc/bootsplash/ ?
22:01	o_cee	never restart it
22:01	pcjabber	heh
22:01	o_cee	can't help you there, too long ago i mucked around with it
22:01	pcjabber	k =)
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22:12	Captain_Murdo	\| o_cee, and had this successfully flagged any programs before or had you just used mythcommflag to flag them?
22:13	o_cee	you mean if i've ever used the auto flagging?
22:13	Captain_Murdo	\| with logo detection. just curious since I never actually did that. :)
22:14	o_cee	well
22:14	o_cee	i can't say for sure
22:14	o_cee	i think so, but i'm note sure
22:14	o_cee	not
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22:15	o_cee	i can try recording just one show now.. have to edit the db and change the autoflag setting
22:16	Captain_Murdo	\| I'm going to setup one, will know in about 15 minutes.
22:16	o_cee	k
22:18	Captain_Murdo	\| actually with the start-early/end-late I can find out quicker. :)
22:18	o_cee	clever :)
22:31	Captain_Murdo	\| recording a 5-minute recording now under gdb
22:35	thor_	Chutt, you about ?
22:38	Captain_Murdo	\| o_cee, how recent of cvs is that?
22:39	o_cee	Captain_Murdoch: before isaacs last three commits i think
22:40	o_cee	haven't got this: "Log Message:
22:40	o_cee	Redo some of the DB connection stuff in the TV/NVP classes. "
22:40	knight	how can I make just the frontend?
22:40	knight	(I'm installing mythfrontend on an xbox with linux)
22:40	o_cee	cd programs/mythfrontend && make?
22:41	knight	gotcha
22:41	knight	I still need the libs though ofcourse
22:41	Captain_Murdo	\| o_cee, ok, thanks. my one test recording went OK. going to schedule a back-to-back one and see if that shows anything.
22:43	knight	hmm, this xbox has qt 3.0.3
22:43	knight	will that work?
22:45	o_cee	think the req is 3.1
22:46	knight	i thought so too
22:46	o_cee	0.13 -> Qt 3.1 is now the minimum required for MythTV.
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22:48	knight	thats what i thought
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22:53	knight	bah
22:53	knight	stupid xebian
22:53	knight	dependancy issues
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23:00	Captain_Murdo	\| o_cee, 1 flagging and 1 recording running currently and no problems so far. :(
23:01	o_cee	hmm.. i have to go to sleep now, 5 am..
23:01	o_cee	but i'll cvs update tmorrow and try it againt
23:01	o_cee	there's no other settings that could affect the way it does things?
23:04	Chutt	thor, yeah?
23:05	thor_	just wanted to let you know that I just finished playing some of o_cee's content across the atlantic
23:05	Chutt	heh
23:05	Chutt	neat
23:05	thor_	so I think the daap stuff in the mfd is pretty solid
23:05	Captain_Murdo	\| o_cee: yeah, I tried to make it as simple as possible. :) on/off.
23:05	thor_	even sent me deltas as he copied files into his music dir
23:06	Chutt	captain_murdoch, how's the combined 'use all methods' stuff going?
23:06	Chutt	thor, excellent =)
23:06	knight	thor, n