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| 01:06 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: yeah |
| 01:07 | | * Captain_Murd thinks (2 hours later) :) |
| 01:07 | Captain_Murdo | | not sure who wrote stickey-keys. |
| 01:08 | Captain_Murdo | | and did the "use program categories" thing make sense? |
| 01:09 | o_cee | :) |
| 01:09 | o_cee | yeah i think so |
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| 01:09 | Captain_Murdo | | it only applies to the playbackbox screen, allows you to display only a particular category as if it were a recording group. |
| 01:10 | o_cee | okay, so it's not a real group |
| 01:10 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah because categories already exist. |
| 01:10 | o_cee | yepp |
| 01:10 | o_cee | you think disabling stuff like the other thing in the settings would be possible? |
| 01:10 | Captain_Murdo | | it just gets a list of all categories from the recorded table and displays those as possible "groups" to view in addition to the existing recording groups as well. |
| 01:11 | o_cee | ok |
| 01:11 | Captain_Murdo | | which thing? |
| 01:11 | o_cee | sticky keys |
| 01:11 | o_cee | like to disable settings for sticky keys if they aren't enabled |
| 01:12 | o_cee | no logo code yet? i just woke up :) |
| 01:12 | Captain_Murdo | | on the main setup? |
| 01:13 | o_cee | yeah |
| 01:13 | Captain_Murdo | | was away watching a movie, doing a final test now actually. getting ready to go to bed here. :) |
| 01:13 | o_cee | :) |
| 01:15 | Captain_Murdo | | taking out all my debug statements that print junk to the screen when flagging runs. |
| 01:18 | o_cee | breakfast |
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| 01:44 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee: logo detection code is in CVS if you want to play with it. |
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| 01:56 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: great, reading and updating now |
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| 02:06 | o_cee | won't be able to try it until this afternoon, have to run now.. later |
| 02:15 | o_cee | Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg2video, 720x576, 25.00 fps |
| 02:15 | o_cee | Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 384 kb/s |
| 02:15 | o_cee | Logo SearchSegmentation fault |
| 02:15 | o_cee | heh |
| 02:16 | Captain_Murdo | | that's a bug in current cvs I think. someone was complaining about segfaults when playing mpeg2 files on the list. I have one, let me try under the debugger. |
| 02:16 | o_cee | oh |
| 02:16 | o_cee | yeah, just fired up gdb here |
| 02:16 | o_cee | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 02:16 | o_cee | [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 11598)] |
| 02:16 | o_cee | 0x404a0dad in ff_mpegcontext_flush (s=0x8110d60) at mpegvideo.c:3595 |
| 02:16 | o_cee | 3595 if(s->picture[i].data[0] && ( s->picture[i].type == FF_BUFFER_TYPE_INTERNAL |
| 02:16 | o_cee | Current language: auto; currently c |
| 02:17 | o_cee | is that enough? |
| 02:17 | o_cee | or maybe this is something for isaac |
| 02:18 | Captain_Murdo | | something for Isaac, he said nothing has changed in there but I wonder if something else had a side-effect. |
| 02:19 | o_cee | i'll send a bt to -dev then |
| 02:19 | Captain_Murdo | | my mythcommflag on a mpeg2 file is running fine. weird.. they were segfaulting earlier. |
| 02:19 | o_cee | hmm, short thread apply all bt full.. |
| 02:21 | o_cee | there, send it |
| 02:21 | o_cee | need to run off now |
| 02:21 | o_cee | talk to you later, go to bed now :) |
| 02:22 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, ttyl |
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| 04:47 | yebyen | mem |
| 04:53 | Chutt | captain_murdoch, you need to call GetFrame() before you can seek. |
| 04:54 | Chutt | you're not doing that in the logo detection loop. |
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| 07:34 | CaCtus491 | evening |
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| 08:23 | Spida | hi |
| 08:24 | Spida | is there an agreement with msnbc.com regarding ripping of weather data for mythweather? |
| 08:25 | dja | not to my knowledge (but I'm not the one who wrote mythweather :) |
| 08:26 | dja | I'd be more worried about zap2it.coom. :) |
| 08:27 | Spida | ? |
| 08:27 | Spida | I am thinking about patching mythweather to use other sources for weather-data |
| 08:27 | dja | there's no agreement with zap2it.com -- they could make our life hell by randomly changing the html in the tvguide data...image life without the guide... |
| 08:28 | GreyFoxx | There was talk here the other day that zap2it may be finally moving toward allow people o subscribe and get an xml feed |
| 08:28 | Spida | I am using a different guide, but I would probably have the same problem... |
| 08:28 | GreyFoxx | one with more data available than we can get now byu screen scraping |
| 08:29 | dja | Hopefully the data will be better...I've found zap2it doesn't always have the latest data (at least compared to my cable company) |
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| 10:10 | Captain_Murdo | | Chutt, you around? |
| 10:14 | Captain_Murdo | | replied to that email about GetFrame() and asked a question if you could take a look sometime. |
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| 12:16 | o_c | Captain_Murdoch: logo detection a couple of shows now.. the first one was like 90% succesful, it got confused by some comcercials the tv-station itself sends (for other shows) where they have an almost opaque logo.. and when it changed to the normal halftransparent it seems like it got a little confused.. but i'll need more testing with it |
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| 12:18 | o_c | ttyl, will bbl |
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| 12:55 | mdz | was seeking while paused knowingly broken? |
| 12:56 | mdz | pre-0.14? |
| 12:57 | | * Captain_Murd says wasn't me |
| 12:57 | mdz | Captain_Murdoch: is it broken for you too? |
| 13:00 | Chutt | knowingly broken? |
| 13:00 | Chutt | behavior changed |
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| 13:07 | thor_ | hit s to segfault |
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| 13:13 | Captain_Murdo | | can't test, at work now. |
| 13:14 | | * Captain_Murd uses S for something else so he changed the segfault key to ALT-S |
| 13:14 | Chutt | so that getframe bit worked? |
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| 13:25 | mdz | Chutt: what's the new behavior? |
| 13:25 | mdz | seek by one frame? |
| 13:26 | Chutt | yup |
| 13:26 | mdz | that's much less useful |
| 13:26 | Chutt | i think you can disable it somewhere |
| 13:26 | Chutt | no one complained when it went in =) |
| 13:29 | mdz | I didn't notice until today :-P |
| 13:35 | Captain_Murdo | | chutt, yeah fixed the getframe and replied to that email you sent. would you mind if JumpToFrame, ClearAfterSeek, and GetFrame were public instead of private? then I could just have a CommDetect->FindLogo(this) call in NVP instead of that big block of code. |
| 13:35 | Captain_Murdo | | or can you think of another way I could do less of that code in NVP and more in CommDetect? |
| 13:36 | Chutt | i replied to you :p |
| 13:36 | Captain_Murdo | | ah, ok. haven't checked in the past hour or so. :) busy with real work unfortunately. |
| 13:36 | Chutt | you can either make it public, or make it a friend class |
| 13:36 | Captain_Murdo | | ok, have to read up on friends. never used those. |
| 13:37 | Captain_Murdo | | actually just checked and I don't have that reply yet. I'll read it when it comes in. |
| 13:37 | Captain_Murdo | | thanks. |
| 13:38 | Chutt | heh |
| 13:38 | Chutt | allright |
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| 14:50 | racer | o_cee? |
| 14:51 | racer | anybody saw these theme screenshots? xlr8shun |
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| 14:51 | racer | oops |
| 14:52 | racer | i mean: http://myhtpc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6185 see topic from : xlr8shun |
| 14:53 | racer | Nice icons!!! |
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| 14:57 | GreyFoxx | Those do look pretty nice |
| 14:58 | GreyFoxx | I like the transparent overlay look :) |
| 14:59 | racer | Overall MyHTPC looks nice but MYTHTV rocks with it TV functionality! |
| 15:00 | Rince | ;-) |
| 15:00 | racer | Icons are from the MYTHTV-G.A.N.T. theme! |
| 15:01 | GreyFoxx | God I hate waiting for stuff to finishbefore I can carry on with my work |
| 15:02 | | * GreyFoxx throws rocks at his machine to speed it up |
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| 15:25 | o_cee | hahahha, funny mail from Paul Koster :) |
| 15:27 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: does 'on-the-fly' logo detection work? like, do i press z when a comercial start? |
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| 15:42 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee, no because it doesn't know what the logo looks like. only on-the-fly detection is blank-frame. |
| 15:43 | o_cee | okay |
| 15:43 | o_cee | maybe it should store it for that purpose |
| 15:43 | Captain_Murdo | | I think I mentioned that on the setup page in one of the help texts. |
| 15:44 | o_cee | messing with all translations, probably missed it |
| 15:44 | o_cee | running half english half swedish :) |
| 15:45 | Captain_Murdo | | I think it's for the combobox for the skip method. |
| 15:46 | kvandivo | cm, you are the one that committed that change to let per-channel commercial skip be set? where the heck is that setting actually at? |
| 15:46 | kvandivo | (in the gui) |
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| 15:46 | o_cee | channel editor |
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| 15:47 | kvandivo | where is the channel editor of which you speak? |
| 15:47 | kvandivo | ;) |
| 15:48 | o_cee | ./setup |
| 15:48 | kvandivo | i was going to play with that over the weekend, and spent entirely too much look looking through the settings and never did find it. |
| 15:48 | o_cee | heheheh |
| 15:48 | kvandivo | aha.. i had wondered if it was in setup |
| 15:48 | o_cee | the backend setup proggie |
| 15:48 | o_cee | :) |
| 15:48 | kvandivo | figures |
| 15:48 | kvandivo | methinks i'll add it to my todo list to move that into mythfrontend proper |
| 15:49 | o_cee | uhm |
| 15:49 | o_cee | the channels are on the backend |
| 15:49 | o_cee | should be in there where it is i think |
| 15:50 | kvandivo | by that definition virtually everything is on the backend |
| 15:50 | o_cee | channels are affected on all frontends |
| 15:50 | o_cee | that better? :) |
| 15:50 | o_cee | all settings are host specific.. |
| 15:50 | o_cee | channels aren't.. |
| 15:50 | kvandivo | no, not really. the choice of whether or not to flag commercials, by your definition, is also a backend setting |
| 15:50 | kvandivo | but you can make that choice from the frontned |
| 15:51 | o_cee | true. |
| 15:51 | o_cee | but then again, why at all have ./setup |
| 15:51 | o_cee | because you should be able to setup a backend alone |
| 15:52 | Captain_Murdo | | kvandivo: it's supposed to be in the channel setup. I'd like to convert that commfree field to a commMethod field to have per-channel commercial detection methods. |
| 15:52 | Captain_Murdo | | I didn't add that, I just applied the patch by someone else. |
| 15:52 | kvandivo | sure.. i understand. :) |
| 15:53 | kvandivo | it does sound like a firm definition of what goes in ./setup versus what is exposed by the settings option would be a good thing |
| 15:53 | Chutt | the channel setup could easily go in to the frontend |
| 15:53 | kvandivo | i'm sure that such a definition exists.. |
| 15:53 | Chutt | since it doesn't really require any backend resources |
| 15:54 | o_cee | bah :) |
| 15:54 | Chutt | everything could be moved into the frontend if someone were to write a protocol to proxy all the local requests (v4l, dvb, etc) |
| 15:54 | Chutt | from the frontend to the backend that the user is configuring |
| 15:55 | kvandivo | makes sense |
| 15:55 | Chutt | i'm not interested in doing that myself, though |
| 15:55 | o_cee | Chutt: you want .ts updates when i'm finished or in smaller chunks? got _alot_ of new stuff now.. but ~150 strings left |
| 15:55 | kvandivo | ya.. well, it actually sounds like we are relatively close to optimal with the two binaries.. it's just a couple of things that could be moved, and otherwise it flows nicely |
| 15:56 | Chutt | whenever you want |
| 15:56 | o_cee | feels like i should back it up |
| 15:56 | o_cee | the things chris changed with some %1 and %2 stuff seemed to mess things up a little.. didn't have time to look at it more |
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| 15:57 | o_cee | pita to have 700 strings in the same subgroup, hehe.. |
| 15:58 | o_cee | i also don't know why i got a CaptureCard now.. already have CaptureCardEditor..? subgroup of strings.. |
| 15:58 | Chutt | they're different. |
| 15:59 | o_cee | hmm, allright |
| 15:59 | o_cee | you saw the untranslated string? i think i send it to the list |
| 16:00 | Chutt | yes |
| 16:00 | Chutt | i'm busy, haven't applied patches. |
| 16:01 | o_cee | np |
| 16:01 | o_cee | (would be easier with cvs access ;) hehe, j/k |
| 16:02 | enki | anyone know what processor core the a 2.4ghz celeron is built around? |
| 16:02 | enki | the same as a p4? |
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| 16:10 | o_cee | "Channel Recordings will receive this additional recording priority value." <-- does that refer to "Always record this program on this channel"? |
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| 17:12 | Octane | i just realized something which ive been too stupid to realize earlier. those who want more than one tuner and need a settop box, need a second settop box |
| 17:13 | Octane | it took me 5 months of mythtv to realize that! |
| 17:21 | tmk | eh? |
| 17:21 | Chutt | tmk, hi |
| 17:21 | tmk | sup chutt |
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| 17:25 | o_cee | sup means 'schnaps'/'dram' where i live (sorry, no american dictionary, that might be brittish) :) |
| 17:25 | o_cee | i sure hope that's not what you're saying :) |
| 17:26 | sfr | schnaps is swedish? |
| 17:26 | o_cee | snaps is swedish |
| 17:27 | o_cee | but yeah, same word |
| 17:27 | o_cee | :) |
| 17:27 | sfr | and means s/t containing 40% alcohol |
| 17:27 | o_cee | yeah >= 40% ;) |
| 17:29 | o_cee | sfr: if you enter the rec profiles settings -> transcoders.. what does it say at the top? |
| 17:29 | o_cee | translation stuff |
| 17:29 | o_cee | with german |
| 17:31 | o_cee | doesn't seem to translate that.. but i can't find it in the source.. probably sets the name of itself or something there, because there's no string to slap a tr() around as far as i can grep |
| 17:31 | sfr | o_cee: it just says 'Transcoders' |
| 17:31 | o_cee | good |
| 17:32 | o_cee | or, you know, not good, but same thing here |
| 17:32 | o_cee | Transcoders is translated already.. so |
| 17:32 | sfr | but i translated Transcoders in the selection menu |
| 17:32 | o_cee | exactly |
| 17:33 | o_cee | but if you grep for "Transcoders" you won't find it anywhere.. so it has to be the classname or whatever |
| 17:33 | sfr | o_cee: getting picky? |
| 17:33 | o_cee | yeh:) |
| 17:33 | sfr | good! |
| 17:33 | o_cee | good sign, isn't it? |
| 17:33 | o_cee | :) |
| 17:34 | niqo | profilegroup.cpp:88 |
| 17:36 | o_cee | niqo: i think that's the choice for the screen before? |
| 17:37 | niqo | yea, right |
| 17:39 | niqo | its in the database... |
| 17:40 | o_cee | but it's translated on the first screen |
| 17:40 | o_cee | ah well |
| 17:41 | niqo | and that's in dbcheck.cpp.. |
| 17:41 | niqo | 152+ |
| 17:42 | o_cee | don't think i want to change in the database |
| 17:43 | niqo | you could code a translation of those strings on load.. |
| 17:49 | o_cee | Chutt: translation for ./setup.. wouldn't it make sense to be able to configure the language if not set when you start it up? i mean, it's set from the frontend, and when you're about to run the setup for the first time you don't have any other lang specified.. |
| 17:52 | Chutt | sure |
| 17:52 | Chutt | it could ask first thing |
| 17:52 | o_cee | yeah, at least if the db hasn't been created or something |
| 17:53 | o_cee | feels rather pointless translating everything if no-one will see it ;) |
| 17:54 | Chutt | could just see if the language setting is blank and ask otherwise |
| 17:54 | Chutt | code it up :p |
| 17:54 | o_cee | right after i'm done translating it ;) |
| 17:57 | Chutt | great |
| 17:58 | Chutt | thor, i'm breaking out the GenericTree into its own file |
| 17:58 | o_cee | hehehe |
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| 17:59 | mdz | wouldn't it be more sensible to just pay attention to the LANG environment variable? |
| 17:59 | mdz | instead of prompting the user? |
| 17:59 | Chutt | sure |
| 17:59 | mdz | I would expect Qt to already do that |
| 17:59 | o_cee | mdz: i don't have it set.. i don't want a swedish OS |
| 17:59 | o_cee | :) |
| 17:59 | o_cee | i run english os all the time |
| 17:59 | kvandivo | you da man! |
| 18:00 | o_cee | it could to like: "Found your using language: "blah"; is this correct?" |
| 18:00 | kvandivo | Language detected: "blah" |
| 18:01 | o_cee | but that's out of my league now.. :) |
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| 18:37 | thor_ | Chutt, didn't we have problems with Brent Hill's thing ? |
| 18:37 | thor_ | Hills' |
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| 18:52 | rkulagow | thor: still here? |
| 18:57 | thor_ | yup |
| 18:57 | rkulagow | hey, do you use itunes on Mac or windows? |
| 18:57 | thor_ | windows |
| 18:58 | thor_ | well ... as a debugging tool ... don't really _use_ it |
| 18:58 | rkulagow | ah, ok. i was just wondering if all the coolio featyres had been tested on the windows version. |
| 18:58 | thor_ | yup |
| 18:58 | rkulagow | ok. |
| 18:59 | thor_ | still looking for someone to try a few things on a mac version in fact |
| 18:59 | rkulagow | don't have a mac, so i can't help you there. |
| 18:59 | thor_ | yup |
| 18:59 | thor_ | they seem rare :-) |
| 19:00 | thor_ | probably buy one soon anyway to get photo sharing to work with iPhoto (not available for Windows) |
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| 19:01 | rkulagow | sounds like an excellent plan. buy me one too, while you're at it. |
| 19:01 | thor_ | heh |
| 19:01 | thor_ | put a paypal link in your docs :-) |
| 19:01 | rkulagow | conflict of interest. |
| 19:02 | thor_ | yeah |
| 19:02 | thor_ | write a book on "Installing and Using MythTV" ? |
| 19:03 | thor_ | make coin on the dead tree version |
| 19:03 | thor_ | "Free copy of myth tv with every Book purchased ! " |
| 19:03 | thor_ | then buy a mac |
| 19:03 | rkulagow | waiting for a publisher to get back to me. we'll see. first, have to write it. editing is easy. words are hard. |
| 19:04 | thor_ | heh |
| 19:05 | rkulagow | well, if i get a book published, i'll make sure i buy _you_ a mac. how's that sound? |
| 19:05 | thor_ | heh |
| 19:05 | thor_ | you're on |
| 19:07 | rkulagow | weirdest billboard i saw today: cow hydroponics |
| 19:07 | thor_ | growing dope in cow manure ? |
| 19:07 | lmatter | rkulagow, I was going to write up some notes on using mythgallery to add to your docs. Can I just send ascii text or do you want some other format. |
| 19:08 | rkulagow | lmatter: ascii is fine. i'll sgml it myself. if you have a special request just put an inline comment, since i basically read everything anyways. |
| 19:12 | lmatter | rkulagow, ok will do. |
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| 20:36 | thor_ | wooo hoooo better Generic Tree's |
| 20:37 | thor_ | if you can handle multiple sorts in the same tree, I'll be a happy camper |
| 20:40 | Chutt | i dunno |
| 20:40 | Chutt | just converted it to use the internal qt sort algorithm |
| 20:40 | thor_ | ah |
| 20:40 | Chutt | might have changed how stuff was sorted, but that's easy to fix |
| 20:40 | thor_ | heh |
| 20:40 | Chutt | didn't really test, these are changes from awhile ago |
| 20:40 | thor_ | just looking at it |
| 20:40 | o_cee | oh there's an issue with the sorting, maybe that's sorted (haha) now |
| 20:41 | Chutt | simplified some things by cutting down on redundant functions |
| 20:41 | o_cee | with small vs large chars, sorted a and A seperately |
| 20:41 | o_cee | you guys familiar with matlab? |
| 20:41 | thor_ | from a long time ago |
| 20:42 | o_cee | okay.. seems they changed \ into / in newer versions.. extremely odd |
| 20:42 | o_cee | x=A\b should be x=A/b now.. heh |
| 20:42 | mikegrb | unless I totaly messed up I don't know why people have so much trouble with pvr cards and the ivtv drivers |
| 20:42 | thor_ | Chutt, am I right in recalling that someone looked at the Brent Hill's patch and had a problem with it |
| 20:43 | thor_ | Hills' (again) |
| 20:43 | o_cee | mikegrb: me neither |
| 20:43 | mikegrb | tool 5 minutes to get the drivers, compile install etc |
| 20:43 | mikegrb | s/tool/took/ |
| 20:43 | mikegrb | of course now I have to shut the machine down and put the card in :p |
| 20:43 | o_cee | hehehe |
| 20:43 | o_cee | damn |
| 20:43 | o_cee | no hotswap? :) |
| 20:43 | Chutt | thor, yes |
| 20:43 | thor_ | thought so |
| 20:44 | Chutt | the combo box was my issue |
| 20:44 | thor_ | ah yes ... |
| 20:44 | Chutt | since it doesn't really seem like those 4 options should be mutually exclusive |
| 20:44 | thor_ | right, right |
| 20:44 | mikegrb | o_cee: I'm not that brave :p |
| 20:44 | thor_ | ok, phew, thought I had just overlooked it |
| 20:44 | thor_ | worried I had |
| 20:44 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: you here? when selecting a group to view in watch recordings it'd be good if you could press select without actually going to the ok button.. but just press select in the listbox. |
| 20:45 | o_cee | also Chutt, is there a way to open listboxes without the mouse now when it's disabled everywhere? i mean to get a look at all options? |
| 20:47 | Chutt | nope |
| 20:47 | thor_ | will usually crash the decoder within minutes |
| 20:47 | o_cee | :/ |
| 20:47 | thor_ | " " |
| 20:47 | Chutt | exactly :p |
| 20:47 | thor_ | becomes bah |
| 20:48 | thor_ | so I"m going to respond to Brent then |
| 20:48 | Chutt | ok |
| 20:48 | Chutt | thanks |
| 20:48 | thor_ | yup |
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| 20:51 | o_cee | 805/955 ~84% swedish translation finisihed now... mostly setup left i think |
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| 21:17 | o_cee | Chutt: think i should put a picture for the disabled shutdown menuitem in gant? |
| 21:17 | o_cee | watermark that is |
| 21:20 | Chutt | i wouldn't bother |
| 21:20 | Chutt | i don't even know if that works |
| 21:21 | o_cee | hehe |
| 21:21 | o_cee | just found it in the xml when i translated it |
| 21:22 | o_cee | you know what happened to geoff? haven't seen any mail from him in months |
| 21:23 | o_cee | would be nice to have mpeg2 cutting |
| 21:24 | Chutt | he said he'd be busy for a month or two |
| 21:25 | o_cee | okay |
| 21:26 | o_cee | really excited about the logo detection, it could work really well here.. didn't have time to play with it thatmuch today.. |
| 21:26 | o_cee | anyway, it's 3:30 now.. time to get some sleep. g'night |
| 21:27 | mikegrb | o_cee: yup it works :p |
| 21:28 | mikegrb | o_cee: so 5 frick'n minutes of work, what everyone bishes about I know not |
| 21:28 | Captain_Murdo | | mikegrb: what works? |
| 21:29 | mikegrb | I just got a pvr-250 card this evening :p |
| 21:29 | mikegrb | go me! |
| 21:29 | Captain_Murdo | | oh, ok. thought you meant you had tested the logo stuff. |
| 21:29 | mikegrb | though it is as much for my wife as me |
| 21:29 | mikegrb | oh, no not yet :/ |
| 21:30 | mikegrb | our myth backend hasn't gotten much use lately as a mythbackend |
| 21:30 | mikegrb | it has been server 3 remote x sessions lately so bttv card was just too much work for it |
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| 21:57 | Teflon | hmmm dvb-mplex eventually loses a/v sync. |
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| 22:05 | Chutt | if people have time and are able to test cvs, i'd appreciate that.. |
| 22:06 | thor_ | what have you done with Chutt ? |
| 22:06 | Chutt | (because of the ffmpeg update) |
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| 22:06 | thor_ | anyone know the office of homeland security number for reporting suspicous activity ? |
| 22:08 | pcjabber | sorry, not me |
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| 22:11 | livesNbox | hey guys... |
| 22:11 | pcjabber | i'm having a problem (no clue what it is), but i know this isnt the place to ask for help -- #mythtv-users |
| 22:11 | pcjabber | "no clue what it is" = no clue what it's related to |
| 22:11 | pcjabber | hello livesNbox |
| 22:11 | livesNbox | is there any plan for a windows based frontend ? |
| 22:11 | thor_ | mute your line in and set it as the recording source |
| 22:12 | pcjabber | livesNbox, there is one already for cygwin |
| 22:12 | livesNbox | really.. hmm... |
| 22:12 | pcjabber | thor_, who were you talking to? =) |
| 22:13 | livesNbox | what about plans for any windows native frontend ? |
| 22:13 | thor_ | I was trying to divine your problem by using mind reading |
| 22:13 | Billytwowilly | | livesNbox, That kind of defeats the purpose... |
| 22:14 | pcjabber | yep, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Dev_F10/%5BPATCH%5D_Win32_frontend_support_P102327/ |
| 22:14 | pcjabber | thor_, sorry to burst your bubble, but your mind reading doesnt work =) |
| 22:14 | thor_ | crap |
| 22:14 | pcjabber | =) |
| 22:14 | livesNbox | Billytwowilly: what purpose is that ? |
| 22:14 | thor_ | well, you'll probably have that problem in a day or so |
| 22:15 | Billytwowilly | | livesNbox, The complete and utter destruction of everything that is windows;) |
| 22:15 | pcjabber | uh, sure, whatever you say ;-) |
| 22:15 | livesNbox | Billytwowilly: good luck! |
| 22:15 | pcjabber | lol agreed, Billytwowilly |
| 22:15 | livesNbox | Billytwowilly: seems like the purpose would be to make mythweb the most popular and best pvr software out there. |
| 22:15 | Billytwowilly | | livesNbox, I'm just joking;) I don't think there has been enough interest by developers to make one for windows;) |
| 22:15 | pcjabber | thor_, my problem is this: when i am in myth, in the menus, i get fine feed. |
| 22:16 | livesNbox | Billytwowilly: hmm.. doesn't seem like it would be too difficult... |
| 22:16 | Billytwowilly | | livesNbox, Have you ever programmed for windows? |
| 22:16 | livesNbox | yeah... |
| 22:16 | livesNbox | it's what I do. |
| 22:16 | thor_ | have at it |
| 22:16 | livesNbox | hehe.. |
| 22:16 | livesNbox | i might |
| 22:16 | Billytwowilly | | then go nuts dude. |
| 22:16 | pcjabber | in the TV (any tv, watch prev. recorded, live, etc), I get feed with green bars every few centimeters (i am in the US) |
| 22:16 | pcjabber | even in the OSD |
| 22:16 | livesNbox | seems like it might not be all that nessisary though |
| 22:16 | Billytwowilly | | a windows frontend would do nothing but benefit the project. |
| 22:16 | livesNbox | if you do post-recording transcoding.. |
| 22:16 | pcjabber | im positive its not my feed - it was working today |
| 22:17 | pcjabber | earlier* |
| 22:17 | livesNbox | you could just have a web interface that would stream wmv's |
| 22:17 | livesNbox | hit up the mysql db for data. |
| 22:17 | thor_ | pcjabber, sounds like bad ground somewhere ... what's your video out ? |
| 22:17 | pcjabber | livesNbox, you are sounding like Snapstream/BeyondTV |
| 22:17 | pcjabber | composite out on the Pundit (RCA jacks) |
| 22:18 | thor_ | fuzzy green bars, or tight crisp perfect borders ? |
| 22:18 | livesNbox | pcjabber: nothing bad about that I guess.... |
| 22:18 | livesNbox | pcjabber: they make a pretty decent product. |
| 22:18 | pcjabber | fuzzy |
| 22:18 | pcjabber | yes they do livesNbox =) |
| 22:18 | pcjabber | i used that before i used myth =) |
| 22:18 | livesNbox | but I like myth better... |
| 22:18 | pcjabber | me too |
| 22:18 | thor_ | I'd bet a reasonable amount of money your pundit outlet is not grounded |
| 22:19 | pcjabber | hmm |
| 22:19 | thor_ | or you've got some RF wonkiness inside the case |
| 22:19 | livesNbox | however, I 'd like to flexibility to stream the recordings anywhere on my network |
| 22:19 | livesNbox | linux, windows, or anything else. |
| 22:19 | livesNbox | and it "seems" like that would be easy. |
| 22:19 | livesNbox | with the transcoding. |
| 22:19 | livesNbox | and the right player. |
| 22:19 | livesNbox | without really doing anything special |
| 22:20 | thor_ | livesNbox, go write a plugin to make myth talk VidoeLan, then you can watch the stuff anywhere |
| 22:20 | thor_ | VideoLan |
| 22:20 | thor_ | even on a PDA |
| 22:20 | livesNbox | anyone build a homebrew ir transmitter for lirc ? |
| 22:21 | pcjabber | thor_, im not getting bad feed on everything |
| 22:21 | pcjabber | just in the "watch tv" stuff |
| 22:22 | pcjabber | X and myth menus work fine |
| 22:22 | thor_ | pcjabber, ah |
| 22:22 | pcjabber | so is that still the probable cause? |
| 22:22 | thor_ | still could be a ground problem on the input side |
| 22:22 | pcjabber | and how would i check those things? |
| 22:22 | thor_ | but I don't really know very much about electronics |
| 22:22 | pcjabber | (RF and ground) |
| 22:22 | thor_ | or electricity |
| 22:22 | thor_ | $4 ground tester |
| 22:22 | pcjabber | oh |
| 22:23 | thor_ | ask Captain_Murdoch if he shows up |
| 22:23 | thor_ | he seems to know lots of things about wiring |
| 22:23 | pcjabber | ok thanks =) |
| 22:23 | thor_ | yup |
| 22:23 | pcjabber | any other possible problems/solutions? |
| 22:24 | pcjabber | because it worked fine 12 hours ago |
| 22:24 | thor_ | ah, probably your cable feed |
| 22:24 | pcjabber | around 8-10 hours ago it stopped working |
| 22:24 | pcjabber | but even watching old recorded programs, i get bad feed |
| 22:24 | thor_ | eh? |
| 22:25 | pcjabber | when i watch pre-recordeds, i get the green bars in it |
| 22:25 | pcjabber | and i know they dont have that |
| 22:25 | thor_ | older than 12 hours ago ? |
| 22:25 | pcjabber | yep, maybe a week ago |
| 22:25 | thor_ | heh |
| 22:25 | thor_ | gremlins |
| 22:25 | pcjabber | lol |
| 22:29 | pcjabber | i am going to try something..just a sec |
| 22:30 | Teflon | hmmm replex works real nice. |
| 22:31 | pcjabber | hmm...seems i screwed around with my XF86Config file, and thats 1/2 the prob =) |
| 22:32 | pcjabber | ive got to go for now, but ill bb later =) |
| 22:33 | pcjabber | thanks for your help |
| 22:33 | thor_ | yup |
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| 22:38 | pcjabber | ill take a picture of the screens tomorrow, and tell you what ive tried so far |
| 22:38 | pcjabber | thanks =) |
| 22:39 | | * pcjabber goes to sleep |
| 22:39 | | * pcjabber is away: Sorry, AFK atm...Will be back soon! (XChat 2.0.7) |
| 22:39 | rkulagow | captain_murdoch: here? |
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| 22:47 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, off an on. |
| 22:48 | rkulagow | looks like the modulo math or something else is off in the new min:sec OSD: i had it popup and let me know that there was a 3:60 commercial |
| 22:49 | rkulagow | but, let me double check and let you know the exact message. brb. |
| 22:49 | Captain_Murdo | | ok. |
| 22:52 | rkulagow | ok, got it now. it's missing a padded "0" if the seconds < 10. 3min, 6 seconds should be 3:06, but comes up 3:6 |
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| 22:52 | rkulagow | unless you wanted it that way |
| 22:54 | Captain_Murdo | | nah, guess I should use something other than the QString("Skip %1:%2") method. :) |
| 22:55 | Captain_Murdo | | thanks. I'll add that to my TODO to fix. |
| 22:56 | Captain_Murdo | | will fix it in a little while. |
| 22:57 | rkulagow | great. |
| 22:59 | rkulagow | breaking out my commodore-64 basic hat, that would be: seconds$=right$("0"+str$(skipped_seconds),2) |
| 22:59 | rkulagow | right? |
| 23:01 | rkulagow | just got an email from zap2it on their new service (maybe) thing. |
| 23:06 | Captain_Murdo | | :) think I'll use QString's sprintf() since that's used everywhere else. |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | looking at the questionaire, they've got: |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | If you use a digital video recorder (DVR), please indicate it below: |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | Freevo |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | MyHTPC |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | MythTV |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | SageTV |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | SnapStream |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | DISH Player-DVR |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | ReplayTV |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | TiVo |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | Cable system DVR |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | Other DVR |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | I do not own a DVR |
| 23:13 | rkulagow | How many hours per week do you spend watching movies in the theatre? (Please round to nearest digit) |
| 23:14 | rkulagow | How many hours per week do you spend playing computer games? (Please round to nearest digit) |
| 23:14 | rkulagow | (last question): . How many hours per week do you spend reading? (Please round to nearest digit) |
| 23:14 | rkulagow | i wonder what the results of the survey (if everyone fills it out) will tell them? |
| 23:14 | thor_ | Do your hobbies include (tick as many as appropriate): Golf, Bridge, Masturbation |
| 23:15 | mdz | rkulagow: thanks for the forward |
| 23:15 | rkulagow | well, the welcome email said to share it with others who have my interests, so if you're interested go to http://labs.zap2it.com/ and put in Certificate code: TGYN-JE4M-CBUT when you go to setup a new account. |
| 23:16 | jams_ | hey guys any plans to have a visual indicator for lirc events to account for delays ? |
| 23:18 | Chutt | heh |
| 23:20 | Chutt | why does zap2it want to know how many hours a week i read? |
| 23:20 | mdz | so that they know what to try to sell you |
| 23:21 | rkulagow | We have 9 registered users |
| 23:21 | rkulagow | The newest registered user is rkulagow |
| 23:21 | Chutt | there's only one thing they could sell me |
| 23:21 | Chutt | that's silly, apparently you have to answer the question about 'what other DVR app are you thinking of using' |
| 23:22 | rkulagow | yes, that got me too. |
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| 23:24 | rkulagow | ok, so they've got a perl grabber. that's good. |
| 23:24 | Chutt | yeah |
| 23:24 | Chutt | the old one still works |
| 23:25 | mdz | oh, good, xtvd |
| 23:25 | mdz | because we didn't already have a standard |
| 23:26 | Chutt | the xmltv stuff doesn't fit their data |
| 23:26 | Chutt | since, well, their data is much more complete |
| 23:27 | Chutt | episode data is separate from specific showings |
| 23:27 | mdz | how different can it be that it couldn't add some new tags and attributes? |
| 23:27 | Chutt | it can be converted, but you lose some info |
| 23:28 | mdz | the program table doesn't really fit their data either, then |
| 23:28 | mdz | has someone written a converter already? |
| 23:28 | Chutt | there was one last year |
| 23:28 | Chutt | and yeah, the current db scheme doesn't fit their data |
| 23:29 | mdz | so you've probably already thought some about what to do to get this data into mythtv |
| 23:29 | Chutt | if they ever launch this service for real, i'll modify mythtv to support it more |
| 23:30 | Chutt | a tiny bit, but that was all last year |
| 23:30 | Chutt | so i don't really remember what i thought of changing |
| 23:32 | Chutt | if you want to look into doing that, i'd help =) |
| 23:33 | mdz | I'm not particularly motivated yet |
| 23:33 | mdz | maybe the next time their normal web service implodes |
| 23:34 | Chutt | heh |
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| 23:34 | ming | #mythtv-users |
| 23:34 | ming | sorry hehe |
| 23:36 | mdz | I'm trying to port UML to iai64 |
| 23:36 | mdz | ia64, that is |
| 23:36 | Chutt | scary |
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| 23:36 | mdz | it's a lot of annoying header mangling mostly |
| 23:38 | jams_ | chutt would you rather have bugs reported here or on the dev list ? |
| 23:39 | Chutt | the dev list |
| 23:39 | Chutt | if they're actually mythtv bugs, of course. |
| 23:41 | jams_ | pretty sure it is, I can consistently make the backend crash via the epg/recording |
| 23:41 | Chutt | just get a backtrace |
| 23:41 | jams_ | sure thing |
| 23:41 | Chutt | and steps to reproduce |
| 23:41 | mdz | jams_: there are instructions in the howto |
| 23:41 | Chutt | else i'll be likely to ignore you =) |
| 23:41 | jams_ | thanks mdz |
| 23:43 | jams_ | Let me ask this, is there a place to see what bugs have been fixed other then the commit list ? |
| 23:43 | Chutt | nope |
| 23:43 | jams_ | no point in wasted effort it's already been fixed |
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| 23:45 | | * Captain_Murd syncs up with cvs and starts getting the "Can't find a register in class" error message. |
| 23:47 | Chutt | oh, oops |
| 23:47 | Chutt | change libavcodec.pro to -O instead of -O0 for debug mode |
| 23:47 | Chutt | i'll fix that later |
| 23:47 | Captain_Murdo | | ok. thanks. was searching the mailing list. :) |
| 23:49 | Captain_Murdo | | is that because I'm on an old compiler? |
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| 23:55 | Chutt | naw, it's because there's some shady inline asm |
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