| --- | Log | opened Thu Feb 12 00:00:30 2004 |
| --- | Log | closed Thu Feb 12 00:01:13 2004 |
| --- | Log | opened Thu Feb 12 00:06:21 2004 |
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| 00:12 | Octane | anyone here on the mythtv community at orkut? |
| 00:12 | Octane | there are 70 people in it! |
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| 00:30 | | NetslayerZZZ | heh, guess i should clean these occasionaly: |
| 00:30 | | NetslayerZZZ | -rw-r--r-- 1 chris users 9700367455 Feb 11 19:20 mythfrontend.log |
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| 00:44 | Captain_Murdo | | Chutt, you around? |
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| 01:54 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: you saw my message? :) |
| 01:55 | Captain_Murdo | | bout what? |
| 01:55 | Captain_Murdo | | the delete popup? |
| 01:55 | Captain_Murdo | | or the background not drawing right? |
| 01:56 | o_cee | both three ;) |
| 01:56 | o_cee | mohahha |
| 01:56 | o_cee | uhm |
| 01:56 | o_cee | help popup legend thingie.. |
| 01:56 | o_cee | those single letters aren't that obvious |
| 01:57 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, I have to look them up in the source sometimes to remember. :) |
| 01:57 | o_cee | saw you commited a fix for the live tv thingie, great :) |
| 01:57 | o_cee | heheheh |
| 01:58 | o_cee | and yeah, the background drawing happens all the time here as well (the old ones still work like they use to) |
| 02:02 | Captain_Murdo | | and I took back out the "even if empty" dup method and immediately had a few recordings fire off that wouldn't have with the empty method. :) |
| 02:02 | o_cee | hahah, great ;) |
| 02:02 | o_cee | maybe i'll be able to use those things soon |
| 02:02 | o_cee | another swede here started doing a script that fixes up some listnings |
| 02:03 | o_cee | like, all re-runs just get a simple desc instead of a full desc |
| 02:03 | o_cee | so it finds the show it's a re-run of and copies its desc, making the identical |
| 02:03 | o_cee | also puts the episode number or something in subtitle |
| 02:03 | o_cee | so that'll hopefully be great ;) |
| 02:03 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah. need to write a pre-parser. keep old program info in the DB instead of removing daily, keep a month retention or something to match against. |
| 02:04 | o_cee | oh, okay.. (because of this issue i haven't really folloed the scheduler things) |
| 02:04 | o_cee | only annoyance i have is that it doesn't automatically use tuner2 when i'm watching livetv and a recording is about to start |
| 02:08 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, my wife "discovered" LiveTV the other day. she had been switching back to our Sat dish to watch un-recorded TV then she found she could watch it through Myth. with only one tuner I tried to steer her away from that, but I have 4 up and runing now so it's no big deal except for the problem you describe. |
| 02:09 | o_cee | we're not that used using the pvr the other way yet :) |
| 02:10 | o_cee | one of the reasons beeing that it's nice to look at something else during a comercial.. and no, watching it afterwards to be able to skip all comercials feels strange to, heh, just not used to it |
| 02:13 | Chutt | captain_murdoch, hey |
| 02:13 | Captain_Murdo | | my wife is hating real live TV now. |
| 02:13 | Captain_Murdo | | chutt, was that patch better? :) |
| 02:13 | Chutt | much |
| 02:13 | Chutt | thanks |
| 02:13 | Captain_Murdo | | It hit me all the sudden, just eliminate the false items rather than trying to figure out the true. |
| 02:13 | Chutt | it actually makes sense |
| 02:13 | Captain_Murdo | | much less complicated. |
| 02:14 | o_cee | maybe it'll get easier to record what i want with better listnings |
| 02:14 | Chutt | stuff should be obvious what it's doing without having to step through it =) |
| 02:16 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: you'd want to change mythweb as well right? |
| 02:17 | Captain_Murdo | | for what? |
| 02:17 | o_cee | the dupecheck |
| 02:18 | Captain_Murdo | | ahh, yeah, need to eliminate that from the dropdown list. I have one other item I haven't committed yet to take that out of scheduler.cpp as well. getting ready to do that right now. |
| 02:20 | o_cee | "Same here I use 2200 for my card as well. I heard this is MPEG-2 quality." <-- that makes sense.. |
| 02:24 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee, mythweb updated. |
| 02:24 | o_cee | cool |
| 02:28 | | * Captain_Murd wonders why "IsSameProgram() always returns true for kFindOneRecord." according to bjm. |
| 02:29 | | * Captain_Murd goes and reads bjm's message on the -dev list instead of wondering. |
| 02:29 | o_cee | because it's supposed to record _any_ showing of a program? |
| 02:30 | o_cee | but just one time? |
| 02:34 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, but that could be confusing if it's not documented right. I'd assume that if I said "find one episode" of CSI w/ subtitle "Early Rollout" that it would find one occurance of that episode, not any occurance of CSI. |
| 02:35 | Captain_Murdo | | s/"find one episod"/"find one record"/ |
| 02:36 | o_cee | oh.. i think it's supposed to be Find one showing of this program and record it.. like, for trying something new ;) |
| 02:36 | o_cee | dunno |
| 02:37 | Captain_Murdo | | I guess the terminology "Record one showing of this program" on the adv rec options screen explains it enough as long as it doesn't get lost in translation somewhere. :) |
| 02:37 | Captain_Murdo | | because single-record is "record this showing" |
| 02:37 | o_cee | btw, i just looked at playbackbox.. the recording group should be an indicator to show you what group you're browsing instead, very confusing not to see that actually.. there's room in the upper right above the list, temporarily at least |
| 02:38 | o_cee | yeah, i'm trying to translate things the right way ;) it's not easy |
| 02:39 | Captain_Murdo | | just not sure about making anothe container for that or what. |
| 02:40 | Captain_Murdo | | I gotta run. need to run do something and then hit the bed. |
| 02:40 | Captain_Murdo | | later.. |
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| 02:40 | o_cee | uuuhm :) alriiight |
| 02:40 | o_cee | later |
| 02:40 | o_cee | bah |
| 02:43 | o_cee | Chutt: why did you say the other day that i wasn't up to date with cvs (the translation strings)? i updated after that, but it wasn't more than a couple of strings more |
| 02:43 | o_cee | or am i missing out something big? :) |
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| 04:10 | FryGuy- | is the mythweb guy lists at forevermore dot net? |
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| 09:07 | rkulagow | that can't be good: Device: /dev/hdf, SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 102 to 108 |
| 09:13 | dja | I wish mine was only 102/104...:-) Mine is around 125... |
| 09:14 | rkulagow | really. huh - i'm trying to figure out why my LVMed myth store is going wonky; lots of DMA lost, type crap and i can't even mount it anymore. i was hoping it was heat related. |
| 09:15 | dja | I hope not, or else I'm in big trouble...:-)...I've got 4 drives that run between 1150 and 127 |
| 09:15 | dja | time to go to a website and check specifications...:-) |
| 09:17 | dja | hmm...it says 5 to 55 C, 41 to 131 F...I hpoe that the smart sw is mistating and is really showing F, not C. |
| 09:21 | bline | morning |
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| 09:23 | dja | hmm...I just ran smartctl -a on each of my disks and none of them show up as being more than 35... |
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| 09:37 | dja | rkulagow: have you run smartctl by hand on /dev/hdf to see what it's reporting? |
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| 09:40 | silly1 | does anyone know if there is a bug with the video playback x/y window adjustment? |
| 09:40 | o_cee | i know i used it last week |
| 09:41 | o_cee | with a geforce fx5200 running tvout |
| 09:42 | silly1 | o_cee i have that exact card and am getting a blue edge on the left and top of my mplayer playback window... no prob with the GUI |
| 09:43 | silly1 | i tried to adjust the x/y and it had no effect |
| 09:43 | o_cee | yeah well take a quick guess if mplayer stuff is realted to mythtv. |
| 09:43 | o_cee | related |
| 09:44 | silly1 | did you have the same problem? |
| 09:44 | o_cee | no. |
| 09:46 | silly1 | is there anyway for me to take a look at your XF86? |
| 09:46 | o_cee | not really |
| 09:47 | silly1 | anyway you could e-mail me a copy? |
| 09:49 | silly1 | o_cee ok so you guys know there is a bug with the x/y adjustment for playback.. i just wanted to let you guys know |
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| 09:50 | o_cee | <o_cee> i know i used it last week |
| 09:51 | silly1 | o_cee since you pointed out that it isn't an Myth problem that i am getting the blue.. can you suggest a forum for getting assistance on tweeking it so i can get rid of it? |
| 09:52 | o_cee | search google for the mplayer site? you said yourself it happens in mplayer. |
| 09:53 | silly1 | thanks for the suggestion... nothing out there .. checked the mailing ists for myth and general googling for the past day and found nothing |
| 09:54 | o_cee | listen, you're saying this is a problem in _mplayer_, not mythtv. |
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| 10:02 | rkulagow | dja: i ran smartd and grepped through /var/log/messages. i've shutdown the system and will let it cool down, then see how long it takes to get from ambient to whatever temp. |
| 10:02 | dja | you might want to run 'smartctl -a /dev/hdf' and see what it reports...I'm thinking the syslog'd message from smartd isn't correct... |
| 10:03 | dja | I ran smartctl -a /dev/hde and got back 38, but a syslog message from 30 minutes before reported "changed from 124 to 123"... |
| 10:03 | rkulagow | dja: i'l do that after daughter goes for her nap. thanks for the suggestion. |
| 10:04 | dja | I'm hoping you find the same thing I am...otherwise I think my HD's might start a fire...:-) |
| 10:07 | rkulagow | the other problem is that there doesn't seem to be a way to shrink an LVM partition without having a new drive/drives with enough extents on them to take the old one out of service (even if there is sufficient free drive space in the pool) |
| 10:07 | rkulagow | so, 350GB free, 250GB drive needs to come out of service, but can't seem to do it with lvm. |
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| 10:12 | dja | that sucks |
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| 10:27 | kvandivo | when i get to a point where I have 350 gigs (nevermind 350 gigs free) i'm sure i'll feel extremely sorry for you. :-P |
| 10:29 | | * mikegrb feels sorry for kvandivo |
| 10:31 | rkulagow | well, bbiab. |
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| 12:21 | Chutt | heh |
| 12:23 | solarce[w] | Chutt. |
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| 12:31 | silly1 | o_cee... guess what.. the problem isn't with mplayer... running playback in window it doesn't show a blue line |
| 12:31 | thor_ | heh? |
| 12:32 | silly1 | it would appear that it is either Myth or my nvidia driver... but it would seem that standard release of myth does have a bug in the X/Y adjust ment |
| 12:33 | Captain_Murdo | | silly1, I said there might be. it also may be the border of your window. I get that on my dev machine when I run fullscreen. |
| 12:33 | Chutt | no, i don't think there's a bug in the x/y adjustment |
| 12:33 | Chutt | people are trying to use it with their width/height set to fullscreen, though, and that obviously doesn't work. |
| 12:35 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, too many ways to accomplish the same thing. I still don't see a difference between running in a window and not running in a window. |
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| 12:36 | Captain_Murdo | | amazing how much quicker "make install" is now that I put my source tree on a faster hard drive. :) |
| 12:37 | silly1 | chutt then i must have missunderstood what the playback X/Y adjustment is for.. i thought it was to adjust the X/Y positioning of the playback (ie xine, mplayer, etc) screen as you like |
| 12:37 | Captain_Murdo | | the x/y positioning is under the "TV" section of the setup so it only affects TV. |
| 12:37 | Chutt | it's for adjusting the x/y positioning of the mythtv window |
| 12:37 | Chutt | oh, that x/y positioning? |
| 12:38 | Chutt | who would use that? |
| 12:38 | steelep | ummm, I do, but differently |
| 12:38 | silly1 | thank you steelep |
| 12:38 | steelep | I use it to eliminate overscan |
| 12:38 | silly1 | there are 2 as you know |
| 12:38 | Chutt | you don't want to eliminate overscan :p |
| 12:38 | silly1 | one for the myth gui and one for playback |
| 12:39 | Captain_Murdo | | minimize, not eliminate. :) |
| 12:39 | steelep | I do, there is 60pixels! |
| 12:39 | silly1 | playback x/y |
| 12:39 | Chutt | right, but that's normal for tv playback. |
| 12:39 | steelep | cuts way too much off imo |
| 12:39 | Chutt | 5% on all sides is pretty standard for most everything |
| 12:40 | Chutt | that's why broadcasters don't put stuff on the outside edges |
| 12:40 | steelep | I just set the player to this: |
| 12:40 | steelep | /usr/bin/xine -BG 1168x660+24+6 -p %s |
| 12:40 | silly1 | if the playback x/y is not for positioning the window on the screen then what is it for exaxtly |
| 12:40 | Chutt | silly1, read the source. |
| 12:41 | Chutt | playback x/y doesn't touch the window positioning, it just affects the video inside the window. |
| 12:41 | silly1 | ok |
| 12:41 | silly1 | that makes more sense |
| 12:42 | silly1 | thanks |
| 12:42 | Chutt | which is why it's a pretty useless setting |
| 12:42 | Chutt | unless your display device is broken and has like 10% overscan on one side and 0% on the other |
| 12:42 | Chutt | and you'd want to compensate for that |
| 12:43 | silly1 | gotcha... sorry for dragging this out... |
| 12:44 | silly1 | i suppose that should have been obvious to me.. but somehow .. i was sure it was for the playback window positioning |
| 12:45 | Chutt | tv playback uses the same window as the rest of the ui |
| 12:46 | steelep | overscan is fine for live tv, I didn't like it for videos |
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| 12:54 | gerhard | Hi all, how do i get ridd of a playlist in mythmusic? |
| 12:55 | Captain_Murdo | | format c: |
| 12:55 | thor_ | highlight playlist, hit any number key |
| 12:55 | thor_ | or m |
| 12:55 | thor_ | or i (I think) |
| 12:56 | | * Captain_Murd was about to mention the -users list/channel. :) |
| 12:56 | thor_ | or ask on the -sers channel |
| 12:56 | thor_ | -users |
| 12:56 | thor_ | :-) |
| 12:56 | kvandivo | maybe he meant "get rid of the playlist via code, so that it never shows up at all" |
| 12:56 | kvandivo | that would be development... |
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| 12:57 | kvandivo | guess that wasn't what he meant... |
| 12:57 | dja | :-) |
| 12:58 | thor_ | a simple thank you would have been nice |
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| 12:59 | gerhard | thanks thor hitting 1 did the trick |
| 12:59 | | * kvandivo throws back his head and cackles with insane glee. |
| 12:59 | | * mikegrb punches kvandivo in the gut |
| 13:00 | | * kvandivo coughs loudy and sits back down. |
| 13:03 | | * Captain_Murd writes a new program called just L so he can have L-dev and L-users mailing lists. |
| 13:04 | mikegrb | pwahahaha |
| 13:05 | thor_ | np |
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| 13:07 | gerhard | thor: where u from you have a scandinavian name. I live in Norway |
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| 13:12 | o_cee | Chutt: the setup translation stuff _is_ working.. must have been something wrong with the .qm here |
| 13:12 | Chutt | heh |
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| 13:13 | o_cee | :) |
| 13:13 | o_cee | so don't bother about that |
| 13:17 | o_cee | you started thinking about how you want to make the clock thingie? |
| 13:17 | Chutt | i mostly know |
| 13:17 | Chutt | just have been busy |
| 13:17 | o_cee | allright |
| 13:18 | o_cee | heard (read) about your job :/ |
| 13:20 | o_cee | thor_: will it be possible for the mfd to grab music from iTunes? |
| 13:21 | lmatter | o_cee, that problem I mentioned to you that you said was fixed in cvs, was that fixed in backend or frontend (or both)? |
| 13:22 | o_cee | lmatter: it was a backend problem.. but you need to update both if you are going to do that |
| 13:22 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: was it you who made the new search listnings page? |
| 13:22 | thor_ | o_cee, assuming someone breaks their ridiculous "security" protocol |
| 13:23 | lmatter | o_cee, yeah, I was hoping I could track down the fix and "backport" it 0.14 so I could ship minimyth with 0.14. |
| 13:23 | o_cee | thor_: okay :/ |
| 13:23 | o_cee | lmatter: you better ask Chutt about that |
| 13:24 | lmatter | Chutt, the problem with stuttering in recorded programs but not live tv, o_cee said it was fixed in cvs. |
| 13:24 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee, no, david or bruce, can't remember which. |
| 13:25 | lmatter | Chutt, I'm trying to find it in the commit mails, but haven't found it yet. Can you help me narrow it down? |
| 13:25 | o_cee | lmatter: wasn't it live tv? |
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| 13:25 | lmatter | o_cee, live tv is perfect, recorded programs stutter. |
| 13:25 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: oh, okay.. just acts up if there's no categories in the database.. why aren't they here? blergh :) |
| 13:25 | o_cee | lmatter: this is with live tv going nuts when the ringbuffer is full and you switch channel (i think it was) |
| 13:26 | lmatter | o_cee, no not that. I remember that one. Index not getting reset or something. |
| 13:27 | lmatter | o_cee, This problem just happens on recorded shows. Prebuffering pause about every 20 secs. Live tv plays perfectly. |
| 13:28 | o_cee | ivtv-version? |
| 13:28 | lmatter | 0.1.9 |
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| 15:28 | Chutt | lmatter, i've not seen the stuttering in recorded programs at all |
| 15:39 | lmatter | Chutt, it's been mentioned a few times on users list. Bizarre. Live tv at 720x480 is smooth (on me6000). |
| 15:39 | lmatter | Chutt, recorded at 480x480 stutters. |
| 15:42 | warlord | i've actually seen the livetv stuttering myself a couple times -- generally after several hours of livetv. |
| 15:42 | warlord | but I'm using cvs from shortly after 0.14, not current cvs |
| 15:42 | warlord | and I haven't looked into it much. |
| 15:43 | kvandivo | my god, won't they let the c++ thing die! |
| 15:43 | Chutt | warlord, that's the bug that should be fixed now |
| 15:43 | warlord | Chutt: yea, i thought so -- just haven't pulled down cvs recently .. |
| 15:47 | lmatter | So difference between live and recorded is seektable right? Anything else? |
| 15:47 | Chutt | not much |
| 15:48 | lmatter | would the seektable affect how it is streamed? |
| 15:49 | Chutt | nope |
| 15:49 | thor_ | I have a long hand version of K&R written by God himself, and it clearly states, "++i is the preincrement operator and i++ is Freudian shorthand for a large class of neuroses" |
| 15:50 | thor_ | and everyone should just write i = i + 1; |
| 15:50 | warlord | thor_: then god himself has been over-ridden by dogmatic law. |
| 15:50 | thor_ | hmmm ... there's a footnote here about. "and hey, try and be nice to each other" |
| 15:51 | thor_ | screw _that_ |
| 15:51 | warlord | heh |
| 15:52 | bline | dogma was such a great movie |
| 15:52 | warlord | it was |
| 15:53 | kvandivo | what happened to it? |
| 15:54 | warlord | it was released on DVD and rarely heard from again.. ;) |
| 15:54 | thor_ | excellent, we can move from a debate about pre/post increment operators to one about English verb tenses |
| 15:55 | | * kvandivo grins evily. |
| 15:55 | bline | heh |
| 15:55 | | * warlord smiles at the method to his madness |
| 15:55 | thor_ | smiled |
| 15:55 | warlord | mmm.. past imperfect :) |
| 15:59 | | * Niqo was happy with sid on his laptop, so he trew the debian testing cd in his desktop, and installed...then thoght: but hey, didn't I have a MythTV dev tree in there? hmmm |
| 16:05 | solarce[w] | :> |
| 16:10 | Chutt | niqo, you lose stuff? |
| 16:12 | thor_ | ... didn't I _use to_ have a ... |
| 16:12 | Niqo | mostly desktop improvement stuff, but i had almost given up on it because of uitype |
| 16:13 | Niqo | and some small bits here and there |
| 16:14 | Niqo | thor: yea, sorry, native vikings don't speak well english :) |
| 16:15 | Niqo | ah well, better start remembering.. |
| 16:16 | thor_ | huh |
| 16:16 | thor_ | me speak good |
| 16:16 | thor_ | (oh this is silly, perhaps we could go back to ++i vs i++) |
| 16:17 | Niqo | yea, i'll use i++ whenever i feel like using it, ok? |
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| 16:18 | thor_ | fine, if you want to just throw away perfectly useful cpu cycles |
| 16:19 | kvandivo | i've always been a fan of increment(i); where i is passed by reference. That way, different people can plug in libraries that do the increment however they feel is most appropriate |
| 16:19 | Niqo | btw, how many? |
| 16:20 | thor_ | according to the tattoo I got after a long evening of drinking with K&R, you should really be doing ii+ |
| 16:20 | thor_ | (should probably move this discussion to the forum) |
| 16:21 | Niqo | yea, and increase the traffic on it by a couple of % |
| 16:21 | kvandivo | if i can't access the forum using my newsreader, i'm not interested |
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| 16:49 | flash | Can anyone help me with a bttv video delay problem? |
| 16:50 | o_cee | lmatter: you say "<lmatter> Chutt, recorded at 480x480 stutters." and LiveTV at other resolution _doesnt_ stutter.. you know what you could try in that case? i know.. |
| 16:50 | thor_ | flash, mute your line in and set it as the recording source |
| 16:50 | flash | I'm using a wintv card in an Athlon 1.4ghz machine, and the video is about 3 seconds behind the audio... |
| 16:51 | thor_ | <thor_> flash, mute your line in and set it as the recording source |
| 16:51 | Niqo | thor: he's deaf! |
| 16:52 | flash | No, just confused, I didn't realize he was talking to me...:-) |
| 16:52 | o_cee | that's why he first wrote your nickname you know |
| 16:52 | o_cee | like i didn't |
| 16:52 | o_cee | Niqo: hey |
| 16:52 | Niqo | Hey o_cee, what's up? |
| 16:53 | flash | Hey now, are you expecting me to actually READ the responses to my questions? ;-) |
| 16:53 | o_cee | Niqo: translating myth to swedish.. heh |
| 16:53 | thor_ | beats reading the mailing list |
| 16:53 | o_cee | i don't read it anymore |
| 16:53 | o_cee | it's alot easier to live that way |
| 16:54 | o_cee | me viking, you jane |
| 16:55 | Niqo | hmm, i should probably do norwegian, should be fairly easy, since you've already done most of the work :) |
| 16:55 | flash | You have just moved me one step closer to tossing out my ReplayTVs... |
| 16:55 | flash | Thanks. |
| 16:56 | thor_ | maybe I'll do a Swedish Chef translation, "Vatch de Bouncy TV" |
| 16:56 | thor_ | flash, yup |
| 16:56 | o_cee | thor_: that would be fun |
| 16:56 | Niqo | but, no, i don't care to, there was another norwegian looney toon in here earlier today... |
| 16:58 | o_cee | Niqo: Slaytanic started working on a nifty thing that will search up re-runs (wich you know are all empty here almost (dunno if no is the same)) and fill them in with the description from the showing it's a re-run of, making the mythtv dup code actually work here |
| 16:59 | o_cee | should be easy to get running in .no listnings as well since they're pretty much the same |
| 17:02 | o_cee | i always seem to scare people to silence |
| 17:02 | Niqo | reading up on dpkg-dev, sorry |
| 17:02 | flash | Any idea why I would start getting Seg fault when I try to view the channel guide? |
| 17:03 | Niqo | yea, that's a nifty feature!! |
| 17:03 | lmatter | o_cee, what can I try? (Sorry, putting out fire at work) |
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| 17:03 | o_cee | lmatter: sounds fun :) |
| 17:03 | o_cee | lmatter: try the same settings as LiveTV of course |
| 17:03 | o_cee | Niqo: yeah.. and it'll also fill in like "Avsnitt 1 av 50" in the sub-title |
| 17:04 | o_cee | Niqo: and hopefully flag movies with category |
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| 17:05 | o_cee | hehe |
| 17:05 | Niqo | ok, I already have the last two, is he going to submit to xmltv (is it actually in there)? |
| 17:06 | o_cee | nope, it's not in there.. and it's using another script called TV-tablå |
| 17:06 | o_cee | (not sure if it supports NO) |
| 17:06 | o_cee | but this will use php directly against the db anyway |
| 17:06 | lmatter | o_cee, tried that too. What I want to try is to watch a recording in progress just before it finishes, and see if stuttering starts when it finishes recording. |
| 17:06 | o_cee | this isn't the work of the grabber, the grabber is just supposed to grab the info as it is |
| 17:07 | o_cee | lmatter: just go to live tv and hit r? |
| 17:08 | o_cee | wow, mail to -dev showed up real quick :) |
| 17:08 | o_cee | mdz: response to you btw |
| 17:08 | o_cee | Niqo: what do you parse the movie for? |
| 17:08 | o_cee | Niqo: what characteristic? |
| 17:09 | o_cee | (hey, let us vikings write crappy english, m'kay?) :) |
| 17:10 | Niqo | hu? |
| 17:10 | o_cee | heh |
| 17:10 | o_cee | how do you search the listnings to find movies? |
| 17:13 | Niqo | genre |
| 17:15 | o_cee | uhm |
| 17:16 | o_cee | you mean you search the descs for all possible genres? not just movies that have genres in the desc |
| 17:36 | Niqo | most series have '\.*<genre>serie\.*' so i assume that '\.*<genre>\.*' is a movie, works okay |
| 17:38 | o_cee | oh, allright.. yeah maybe that's true |
| 17:41 | Niqo | how's he doing it? |
| 17:43 | o_cee | php |
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| 17:56 | Niqo | mdz: thanks for including dvb support in the mythtv debs! |
| 17:58 | Niqo | ah, you did that a long time ago :) |
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| 18:52 | o_cee | trying to translate |
| 18:53 | o_cee | what does this one mean "Delete oldest over Max" ? |
| 18:53 | o_cee | on adv rec page |
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| 18:54 | steelep | checks the max age, then deletes anything older |
| 18:55 | thor_ | 'cept I think it's max _number_, then the oldest |
| 18:55 | o_cee | hmm |
| 18:55 | thor_ | keep 3 most copies of the evening news, if you end up with four delete the oldest |
| 18:55 | thor_ | (I think) |
| 18:55 | o_cee | okay |
| 18:55 | o_cee | yeah, probbly right |
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| 19:02 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee, with that set it will delete the oldest recording when it records a new one and it's over the maxEpisodes. With it unchecked, it will just stop recording new episodes. |
| 19:03 | Captain_Murdo | | that screen needs a help section at the bottom for the various items, or popup context-sensitive help. :) |
| 19:04 | | * enki considers a wireless keyboard as an alternative to a remote/lirc |
| 19:04 | o_cee | ooooh, so yeah okay.. |
| 19:04 | | * Captain_Murd reinstalls a fresh copy of Linux on his old work laptop before turning it back in. :) "give it back to them in better conditiion than when I got it since it came with Win2k" |
| 19:04 | o_cee | enki: very wise |
| 19:04 | o_cee | hah |
| 19:04 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: yeah a section at the bottom just like all settings have would be great for that screen |
| 19:05 | o_cee | and two pages probably |
| 19:05 | Captain_Murdo | | enki, need both so you don't have to break out the keyboard all the time. |
| 19:05 | enki | well i figure ill use the keyboard for most channel surfing etc...and ill have a usb joystick so i can play two gamers on emu games that need such |
| 19:05 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee, yeah, I have it on my TODO to take a look at that if I get a chance. :) need to delve into globalsettings.cpp to understand how that all works. I never used Qt until I started messing with Myth a little over a year ago. |
| 19:06 | o_cee | qt seemse pretty easy to use |
| 19:06 | thor_ | globalsettings is easy (just cut and paste) |
| 19:06 | thor_ | ah, but that's not a globalsettings dialog |
| 19:06 | thor_ | nm |
| 19:07 | o_cee | enki: using a wireless keyboard is very nice, then to that i use a MX500 uni remote to emulate the keyboard. works _very_ well |
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| 19:07 | Captain_Murdo | | thor, yeah so it'd be a big rewrite of that screen. :) |
| 19:07 | thor_ | yup |
| 19:08 | o_cee | hard to translate now since there's no room for anything |
| 19:08 | o_cee | and the sometimes longs descs i have always pushes everything to hell |
| 19:08 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee, yeah. |
| 19:08 | o_cee | did you figure out that 1inch darkening? |
| 19:11 | Captain_Murdo | | haven't looked at it yet. |
| 19:11 | o_cee | allright.. shouldn't it just be a flag to the popup constructor to tell it to darken the background? and no, i've not looked at that code at all :) |
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| 19:16 | o_cee | wb |
| 19:16 | o_cee | :) |
| 19:17 | Captain_Murdo | | just fired up the laptop. |
| 19:19 | o_cee | :) |
| 19:19 | o_cee | i've got a cat in my lap |
| 19:19 | o_cee | lap != laptop |
| 19:19 | o_cee | laptop != lapdance |
| 19:20 | o_cee | proof that girls are evil: |
| 19:20 | o_cee | girls require time and money.. |
| 19:21 | o_cee | girls=time*money |
| 19:21 | o_cee | time is money, therefor: |
| 19:21 | o_cee | time=money |
| 19:21 | o_cee | therefor: |
| 19:21 | o_cee | girls=money*money=money^2 |
| 19:21 | o_cee | and we all know that money is the root of all evil |
| 19:22 | o_cee | money = evil^0.5 |
| 19:22 | o_cee | and |
| 19:22 | o_cee | girls = evil^0.5^2 => girls = evil |
| 19:22 | o_cee | tadaa |
| 19:22 | o_cee | i'm bored |
| 19:23 | Prozach | Your Analytical mind is trully bewildering |
| 19:23 | o_cee | thanks. |
| 19:23 | Prozach | truely even |
| 19:24 | o_cee | sqrt(evil)^2 maybe looks better.. |
| 19:25 | billytwowilly | | the one problem with that is that girls require time AND money. |
| 19:25 | billytwowilly | | thus it's addition. |
| 19:25 | billytwowilly | | not multiplication;) |
| 19:26 | o_cee | that is true |
| 19:26 | billytwowilly | | so you'd get girls= 2*money |
| 19:26 | billytwowilly | | and girls=2 * sqrt(evil) |
| 19:27 | | * billytwowill is cleaning his room. |
| 19:27 | billytwowilly | | normally I wouldn't touch this argument, but hey, it lets me procrastinate on the room cleaning;) |
| 19:28 | o_cee | heheh :) |
| 19:28 | o_cee | 1:30am now.. maybe time to go to bed |
| 19:28 | billytwowilly | | girls are evil sounds so much better than 2 times the root of evil. |
| 19:28 | o_cee | hehe, yeah :) |
| 19:29 | billytwowilly | | if you go to bed I'll have to clean my room :( |
| 19:30 | o_cee | tough one |
| 19:30 | o_cee | thor_: i really need to see what you did with a commit msg like that |
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| 19:48 | o_cee | gnight |
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| 20:51 | NiteOwl | theory: epg osd display hang is due to improper use of osd mythtv api interfaces. BrowseInfo osd displays fine - so I'm examing these two areas of myth for ideas on the bug |
| 20:52 | NiteOwl | anyone else have thoughts on this theory? |
| 20:58 | josephk | Chutt has commented that they do nothing different for the EPG |
| 20:58 | josephk | tmk thought of that a while back |
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| 20:59 | josephk | have you tried setting the alpha under enable pvr350 output to a higher or lower setting? |
| 21:00 | NiteOwl | josephk: ok, so they covered that theory... |
| 21:00 | NiteOwl | josephk: no, the thought did occur to me to try making it completely opaque |
| 21:00 | NiteOwl | NiteOwl: josephk: have you tried changing it? |
| 21:01 | josephk | no...I have no need |
| 21:01 | NiteOwl | ok, what value would be completely opaque?... |
| 21:01 | josephk | but its there for the changing |
| 21:01 | josephk | don't know...try higher or lower |
| 21:01 | NiteOwl | i'll check the source and try it |
| 21:02 | josephk | you can always check the normal settings with ivtvfbctl |
| 21:02 | NiteOwl | you mean the default settings. I think myth plays with them when you go between tv and gui modes |
| 21:03 | josephk | actually it has no need |
| 21:03 | josephk | but its possible |
| 21:03 | josephk | that could just be the localalpha and globalalpha settings |
| 21:04 | NiteOwl | That's what I'm thinking of, is that how osd is overlayed? or are those different settings? |
| 21:05 | josephk | well if it was you wouldn't see video:) |
| 21:05 | NiteOwl | oh..ok :-) |
| 21:06 | josephk | so I guess it's the same principle as the osd, at least when you specify a different alpha settings to show the epg at the same time |
| 21:06 | josephk | but Chutt says there's nothing special about it |
| 21:07 | josephk | so who the hell knows...unless they take a look for themselves or take Chutt's info |
| 21:07 | NiteOwl | Did Chutt write most of the code? |
| 21:08 | josephk | yeah |
| 21:08 | NiteOwl | The browsinfo display definately has an opaque background, in fact it gets the theme background from somewhere |
| 21:08 | NiteOwl | which code areas? |
| 21:09 | NiteOwl | if you know..probably not |
| 21:10 | josephk | you could look in libmyth for decoder-ivtv files |
| 21:11 | josephk | or videout |
| 21:11 | NiteOwl | I mean which areas did he write? |
| 21:12 | josephk | je pretty much wrote mythtv/mythvideo/parts of mythweb adn mythweather I think |
| 21:12 | josephk | sorry...burping the baby |
| 21:12 | josephk | lol |
| 21:12 | NiteOwl | ahhh :-) |
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| 21:36 | NiteOwl | josephk: found isaac's most recent checkin of videout_ivtv.cpp...looks like he turned off the program guide on Jan 28 - probably to avoud this |
| 21:37 | NiteOwl | issue with crashes. Yet he also changed one or two lines so that the alpha value is fetched from the PVR350 specific settings |
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| 21:38 | NiteOwl | I'm still running Myth 0.14, wonder what would happen if I rebuilt with the latest from CVS, removed his disabling of the epg, and turned off usealpha - might get opaque :-) |
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| 21:50 | josephk | I still have the program guide |
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| 21:54 | quink | hey, just curious but in the /configfiles dir, i noticed that there is no packard bell remote lircrc file, might you guys be interested in me sharing mine for future releases? |
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| 22:56 | NiteOwl | josephk: you using the pvr350? |
| 22:58 | NiteOwl | josephk: before i go changing code, i will try setting alpha to 0 and also 255 - one might make it opaque. |
| 22:58 | NiteOwl | (gotta wait 6 mins though - recording in progress) |
| 22:59 | NiteOwl | josephk: The code for browseinfo and for display of the epg looks very different to me so far - maybe If I dig enough they both get to the same level of detail |
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| 23:40 | NiteOwl | what tables do i need to modify to kill a currently recording program - I'm getting annoyed with this ui bug that doesn't let me do it |
| 23:42 | Captain_Murdo | | can't do it in a table, the backend sends a message to stop recording. |
| 23:43 | NiteOwl | if I remove the scheduled prog from the database, then restart the backend it won't think it needs to do anything |
| 23:43 | NiteOwl | just want to be sure i touch all the correct tables. |
| 23:44 | NiteOwl | I just hacked it by messing with the clock, then resetting...still curious about the tables though |
| 23:45 | Captain_Murdo | | you said kill though, didn't say you didn't mind restarting the backend. :) |
| 23:45 | Captain_Murdo | | just remove from record table. |
| 23:46 | NiteOwl | :-) ahh ok |
| 23:46 | NiteOwl | what is oldrecord? |
| 23:47 | NiteOwl | err oldrecorded - are they shows that already were recorded? |
| 23:52 | Captain_Murdo | | yes |
| 23:52 | Captain_Murdo | | used to detect duplicates. |
| --- | Log | closed Fri Feb 13 00:00:16 2004 |
