TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#mythtv:2004:02:10

---	Log	opened Tue Feb 10 00:00:58 2004
00:03	Snow-Man	Night.
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00:10	pmowry	Hi, a commit dated Feb-5 mentions adding download link for recorded programs to mythweb; where can I find more info about using it?
00:11	pmowry	Could not find anything inthe dev oruser archives
00:12	hadees	anyone been having trouble with lines on the m179
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00:22	billytwowilly	\| hi, I'm trying to edit the ati remote source to make a more usefull remote and I was reading the keys.txt file in mythtv. Is there a similar file for mythmusic and the other modules? I didn't see one and keys.txt doesn't appear to have any music related keys in it.
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01:16	jforman	maybe someone in here is more knowledable..i'm trying to delete a recorded program from a remote frontend. it does not delete. but i can delete it fine from a frontend running on the same machine as the backend..i get some odd sql errors and a file not found on the remote end. any ideas?
01:24	jforman	anyone have ideas?
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01:36	billytwowilly	\| jforman: nope.. probably permission problem though.
01:37	jforman	i have backend running as root, files are -rw-r--r-- 1 root root . is that right?
01:37	billytwowilly	\| I don't know.
01:37	billytwowilly	\| I'm just guessing...
01:40	billytwowilly	\| I'm trying to edit the ati_remote source to make it better for mythtv. It'll probably get included in knoppmyth as default config when I'm done.
01:40	billytwowilly	\| I get this error:
01:40	billytwowilly	\| ati_remote.c:151: `KEY_BRACKETLEFT' undeclared here (not in a function)
01:40	billytwowilly	\| ati_remote.c:151: initializer element is not constant
01:40	billytwowilly	\| for bracketleft, bracketright, bar and question.
01:40	billytwowilly	\| anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
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02:02	mchou	has anyone experienced any frontend crashes lately while watching an "almost live" (maybe timeshifted by 10 min) program?
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04:55	Slaytanic	Hey, wasn't Jarod supposed to update his guide with PVR350 info last weekend? There's nothing new in the guide... :/
04:57	Octane	god damn jarod, he is such a slacker!!!
04:57	Octane	someone else should maintain that guide, he is no good!
04:59	Octane	gn ;P
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05:09	Slaytanic	Haha, now that's NOT what I meant. ;)
05:09	Slaytanic	It's just that he wrote "I've got a 350, and I've written up some stuff about it, but I haven't yet had a chance to roll it into this guide. I swear I will by the end of the weekend, so look for another update ever so shortly..."
05:19	pigeon	ahha
05:19	pigeon	fixed the mythweb preview thumbnail problem.
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05:47	Slaytanic	Me too, yesterday... Did you change the owner of the mythweb directory?
05:47	pigeon	well, turns out to be the permission of the actual video spool.
05:51	Slaytanic	Oh, okey... I had problems with that too before...
05:53	pigeon	i'm running mythbackend as myself, and so it creates thumbnail with my umask i think, which is 077
05:53	Slaytanic	077?
05:54	Slaytanic	Doesn't sound logical...
05:54	pigeon	yeah, my umask
05:54	pigeon	my default umask that is.
05:54	Slaytanic	Oh, the umask... Not the actual permission...
05:54	pigeon	nod
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06:43	pigeon	hmm, is that possible to create new profile in a profile group other than just that four?
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09:15	Spida	hi
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11:00	Chiphead	anyone know if there are any issues with changing IVTV_MAX_MPG_BUFFERS to a higher value in the driver?
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14:56	Spida	May I ask some questions about a log entry?
14:58	thor__	No, now go away or I shall taunt you a second time
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15:04	o_cee	hahaha
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15:06	dja	ahh, I see it's that time of the year again (I especially love the "but if a forum provides all the features" statement :-)
15:06	kvandivo	you mean "it's that time of the week again"
15:07	dja	well, yeah...:-)
15:07	dja	I considered replying, but I got my sanity back...
15:07	kvandivo	not worth the muscle energy required to move the fingers on the keyboard
15:07	Chutt	see, just skip reading -users
15:07	o_cee	i seriously think i'll unsubscribe -users
15:07	o_cee	i have like 7000 unread mails in there
15:08	kvandivo	you might as well be unsubscribed already, then
15:08	kvandivo	hey... there's an idea.. i think -users might become digest for me...
15:08	o_cee	Chutt: is there a way to get a list of commits the time the mailings where dead?
15:08		* kvandivo goes off to edit his settings.
15:08	Chutt	they were all sent out
15:09	o_cee	kvandivo: all stupid people breaking threads for instance makes it impossible to read
15:09	o_cee	Chutt: ah, okay
15:09	kvandivo	ahhh.. now i'm digest on -users. i think my life just got incrementally better
15:10	o_cee	:D
15:10	kvandivo	(no comments on how sad that is)
15:10	o_cee	Chutt: you got your car real shiny?
15:10	Chutt	heh
15:10	Chutt	actually, no
15:11	Chutt	had a bit of pipe breakage
15:11	thor__	weird, I just got back from having a headlight replace
15:11	thor__	d
15:11	o_cee	(damn, that guy yesterday who made fun of my english really broke my self-conficence.. now i keep re-reading the stuff i just wrote to make sure it's correct.. blarh)
15:11	thor__	huh?
15:11	Chutt	so instead, i cleaned water out of my basement
15:11	o_cee	hehehe, well that's almost as fun
15:11	Chutt	all good fun
15:11	o_cee	:)
15:11	thor__	good thing you haven't finished framing :-)
15:11	Chutt	yup
15:12	Chutt	that part was done, though
15:12	o_cee	i didn't think you where supposed to have water in a basement..
15:12	Chutt	no drywall or anything
15:12	o_cee	inside pool maybe :)
15:12	thor__	shower !
15:12	kvandivo	temperature related, or what was the cause?
15:12	Chutt	think so
15:12	Chutt	looks like it was just the inside of the spigot
15:12		* o_cee looks up that word
15:13	Chutt	dunno how water got up inside there, i had things shut off inside
15:13	kvandivo	I'm in the (un)fortunate position of having my furnace down in the crawl space. This absolutely guarantees that I don't have freeze problems. It keeps the crawl space at a comfortable 70 degrees (and enough heat leaks out the side that it keeps all external connections well thawed as well)
15:13		* o_cee now knows what spigot means :)
15:13	Chutt	heh
15:13	kvandivo	i've put insulation up on the crawl space walls, etc.. and it essentially means that I have heated floors of a winter
15:15	o_cee	some guy on users (the photo thread) had all cables and stuff on the other side of the wall, very nice..
15:15	kvandivo	all things considered, I'd rather it not be that way, but hey.. every house has its unique "characteristics", right?
15:15	o_cee	especially old houses :)
15:15	thor__	1905
15:15	thor__	heh
15:15	Chutt	heh
15:15	Chutt	my house was built in 1982
15:15	Chutt	i'm just glad i have a basement =)
15:15	kvandivo	the main annoying thing about the furnace-in-the-crawlspace is that i have to crawl down their on my hands and knees periodically to change the furnace filter..
15:16	kvandivo	basements in my part of the country are very rare.. no hills, so there are water problems often
15:16	kvandivo	they've started doing basements in the past 10 years or so.. apparently technology has gotten them to a point where they can actually make a basement that doesn't perpetually leak
15:17	o_cee	amazing :)
15:17	kvandivo	it's strange.. houses built <1940 had basements, and they leak like crazy.. from 1940 -1990 or so they don't have basements..
15:17	kvandivo	and then the new ones are starting to have them again
15:18	thor__	large leaks here ... but condo, so not my problem :-)
15:18	thor__	at least not until it falls over
15:18	kvandivo	:)
15:19	o_cee	<input type="hidden" name="starttime" value="1076376600"> <-- what kind of starttime is that mythweb is using?? not the ones stored in the database? hmm
15:20	thor__	seconds since Disco ?
15:20	kvandivo	looks like that to me
15:20	o_cee	ah crap
15:20	o_cee	need to delete something from the db that's wrong.. thought i could use it for the sql
15:20	o_cee	anyone got a translator for it? :)
15:21	dja	mythweb likes to work with the seconds from the epoch -- makes it much easier to do date comparisons...:-)
15:21	thor__	QDateTime::fromTime_t(seconds_since_disco)
15:22	o_cee	thor__: a website or something?
15:22	dja	... AND starttime=FROM_UNIXTIME(1076376600) ... should work
15:22	thor__	it's a standard thing ... php would have it as well .... even mysql can do it
15:22	o_cee	http://www.glassgiant.com/misc_unix-timestamp.php
15:22	o_cee	dja: oh, cool, thanks
15:23	dja	yer welcome...:-)...
15:24	o_cee	it worked :) cool, will have to remember that.. happens sometimes that i get like 10hour blocks covering the right listnings..
15:24	kvandivo	did you search for "convert unix timestamp", o_cee ?
15:24	dja	I wish Chris hung around here...I'm wondering what he thought of my recent mythweb patches...oh well, I'll be patient...:-)
15:24	o_cee	kvandivo: something like that..
15:25	kvandivo	http://www.glassgiant.com/misc_google.php
15:25	o_cee	ah, hehhe :)
15:25	o_cee	nope, that's not mine
15:26	o_cee	later
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16:00	pigeon	can i have more than just 4 recording profiles in a profile group?
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16:00	Chutt	no.
16:19	o_cee	Chutt: you ever thought about including that bootsplash i did?
16:19	Chutt	not really
16:20	Chutt	thought about it, that is
16:20	o_cee	been using it for a long time now, pretty nice.. don't see it that often tho :)
16:20	o_cee	was going to make one for gant as well
16:22	NiteOwl	Hi o_cee :-) Myth works fine except a few (but important) issues - actually I think it's all one issue (PVR350, tvout, ivtv-fb) and there seems
16:23	o_cee	NiteOwl: huh?
16:23	NiteOwl	to be discussion on the problem.
16:23	NiteOwl	on the ivtv-devel mailing list
16:23	NiteOwl	o_cee: what is confusing you?
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16:23	o_cee	what you're talking about?
16:24	NiteOwl	A few problems I'm seeing 1) OSD of EPG causes hard lockup of system requiring reboot
16:24	o_cee	why'd i care?
16:25	NiteOwl	ahh...when I was setting up, you answered a question or 2...w/in the last week
16:25	o_cee	doesn't make me your personal support guy
16:25	o_cee	i'm gone
16:26	NiteOwl	o_cee: I didn't ask for any additional help...in fact I was sort of saying thank you...by letting you know it all worked out
16:31	o_cee	right, okay, you're welcome ;) the epg issue is known btw, no fix at the moment
16:31	Chutt	and it's an ivtv problem, not mythtv's
16:32	o_cee	Chutt: got some lang updates for sweden (xml files).. will run them thru another swede first, then you'll get a diff
16:33	Chutt	cool.
16:39	kvandivo	in just the past hour and a half i've noticed a decrease in the mail arriving in my inbox. digest mode rocks
16:43	Chutt	heh
16:43	Chutt	but now you can't reply properly!
16:44	Chutt	that's a big deal!@!#!
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16:45	jforman	i'm still confused bout this transcoding thing, getting it down to mpeg4..do i turn on "auto transcode after recording" in the software encoders part or the transcoders part of the dialog ?
16:46	NiteOwl	o_cee: thank you again. My research also uncovered that the OSD EPG issue was a known bug. Looks like it may fix all my probs too...but I won't get into it. I just sent an email to two ppl involved asking them
16:46	NiteOwl	to summarize what the problem they are working on may also fix.
16:46	NiteOwl	to myth-users
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16:46	Chutt	keep ivtv crap off of mythtv-users.
16:46	Chutt	i don't understand why people insist on mailing the users list about ivtv problems.
16:47	NiteOwl	oops
16:47	kvandivo	they figure that it will be automatically dispatched to the right place
16:47	NiteOwl	no more chat about that
16:47	NiteOwl	no, it slipped in becuase the two are very connected
16:47	NiteOwl	sorry about that
16:47	Chutt	they're not connected _AT ALL_
16:47	krash314	maybe it would be easier if it was a forum :-0
16:47		* krash314 ducks
16:48	Chutt	yeah, because then i wouldn't be reading it at all
16:48	NiteOwl	I think you know what i mean, they are hard to tell apart problem wise, since nothing else I know of is using ivtv
16:48	krash314	:-D
16:48	NiteOwl	anyway - enough of that
16:57	mdz	heh
16:57	mdz	I was just thinking it would be good to have a "record once" record type and I see bruce committed one a few days ago
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17:00	Chutt	wonderful how that works =)
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17:02	Chutt	snow-man, lists are slow
17:03	Chutt	load on the machine's only 10 =)
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17:09	Chutt	'course, i'm adding to that
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17:19		* mdz peers at search.php in mythweb
17:19	mdz	it seems impossible that php does not provide a way to unify access to GET and POST data
17:20	Chutt	heh
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17:24	o_cee	Chutt: what's the best thing to do here:
17:24	o_cee	<text>DVD</text>
17:24	o_cee	<text lang="DE">DVD</text>
17:24	o_cee	or leave it with no trans?
17:24	o_cee	wich is faster/more efficient
17:27	Chutt	doesn't matter
17:27	Chutt	it's just load time
17:27	Chutt	easier to see that it's finished if it's in there
17:27	o_cee	okay
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17:34	Chutt	hrm
17:34	Chutt	lists look to be catching up, actually
17:34	Chutt	it's just mailman that's taking forever to process stuff
17:35	o_cee	:/
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17:45	mdz	I hate php so much
17:46	o_cee	mdz: i wrote my first php page yesterday :)
17:46	mdz	I want to add something completely trivial to mythweb and it breaks every time I change anything
17:46	mdz	the code isn't even indented properly
17:46	o_cee	that's why
17:46	Dibblah	Chutt: Thanks for fixing dvbchannel.cpp (appending stuff to a query)
17:49	Dibblah	Now... I'm going to be annoying. Can I work on / submit a patch to clean up the requirements for dvb_t? The labels in setup don't appear to be marked correctly as to what is required. They only seem correct for s / c...
17:49	Chutt	i don't care
17:49	Chutt	i don't do anything with the dvb code
17:49	o_cee	Dibblah: email kenneth about it
17:50	Dibblah	Thanks! Sorry - You may have noticed, but I'm new here ;)
17:50	o_cee	we're very friendly towards new people here..
17:51	kvandivo	i don't know whether to laugh or cry
17:51	o_cee	mouhahahhahaa
17:51	Dibblah	Hmmm... Sounds like #tivo.
17:52	Chutt	so, counting the pro and anti-forum posts in the latest thread
17:52	kvandivo	actually, as long as people remember the topic, and have memorized http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro i suspect that most channels are nice to new people
17:52	Chutt	i make it out to be around 4:1 against a forum
17:52	Chutt	how is that a majority of people, in any sense of the word?
17:53	Dibblah	Because the majority are too dumb to post?
17:53	o_cee	Chutt: i really don't understand how you can read all those mails :)
17:53	kvandivo	if they were on a forum, it would be a lot easier on him..
17:53	mdz	Chutt: yes, 4:1 does sound like a majority
17:54		* kvandivo snickers.
17:54	Chutt	mdz, sorry, for one
17:55	mdz	that doesn't count all of us who ^D-ed the thread instead of reading it
17:55	pahli_bar	splitting the ML might help
17:55	mdz	that group is clearly againts a forum, since it's harder to kill threads
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17:55	kvandivo	ya, let's split it.. let's have a users list and a developers list..
17:55	o_cee	only thing that would be positive with a forum is that people wouldn't be able to break threads :)
17:56	kvandivo	sure they would... they'd just start 6 threads for the same topic
17:56	Chutt	i'm considering an -offtopic list
17:56	pahli_bar	if you split out a gentoo specific list... :)
17:56	kvandivo	just call it !mythtv
17:58	o_cee	hmm: Thank you. For some reason on 0.13 the Channel Editor never worked on my
17:58	o_cee	system.
17:58	o_cee	duuh
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18:02	o_cee	anyone intrested in a gant bootsplash screen?
18:04	o_cee	Chutt: i'm not nagging about this, i'm just reminding you in case you forgot.. :)
18:04	o_cee	updated .xmls soon probably btw
18:05	Chutt	what was it again?
18:05	o_cee	warn about buffer on exit
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18:05	Chutt	hm
18:05	Chutt	does that make sense, though?
18:06	o_cee	well
18:06	o_cee	really annoying to loose it if you press the wrong button
18:06	o_cee	but no, not entirely
18:09	kvandivo	make it an option!
18:09	o_cee	heh
18:09	o_cee	i was about to say that but didn't
18:10	o_cee	haven't read the thread.. but what the hell does these guys smoke? [mythtv-users] mythfilldatabase tip - random start time
18:10	o_cee	well what a great idea.
18:10	o_cee	just mess up the epg by settings all programs start at random times :)
18:10	o_cee	ah, it was about the cron ;)
18:11	kvandivo	i've randomly set mine at 11:57pm
18:11	kvandivo	quite randomly on purpose
18:11	kvandivo	11:59, i meant..
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18:17	kvandivo	for -offtopic to work well, the forum-like ability to "move" threads (and actually enforce the move) would be a handy thing.
18:18	kvandivo	then you could just say "ahh.. an ivtv topic" and shove it off to -offtopic
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18:18	o_cee	is it possible to do that?
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18:31	o_cee	Chutt: made up your mind? :)
18:32	Chutt	dunno
18:33	o_cee	it could be an extra setting "Also warn on exit".. but, as always, to many settings..
18:35	o_cee	Chutt: would you accept a .qph in i18n as well? a wordbook kind of thingie for common translations, so that things get translated with the same phrases if different people work on it?
18:36	Chutt	long as it's not too large
18:36	o_cee	probably not..
18:37	o_cee	i'll start doing one and see
18:45	Slaytanic	Good idea, o_cee
18:45	o_cee	Slaytanic: yeah, thought so too.. :)
18:45	Slaytanic	My neigbor (who's living in Shanghai at the moment, yay) actually works as a technical translator... He could help us out a bit, o_cee.
18:46	o_cee	Slaytanic: there's some real tricky translations :)
18:46	Slaytanic	Indeed!
18:47	Slaytanic	Chutt: Are the translators credited anywhere? Except CVS commit notices... :)
18:48	Chutt	some of em are, if they added themselves to the authors file in one of their patches
18:48	Slaytanic	Haha, so they submit a patch to the "authors" file to be credited... :D
18:49	Chutt	i'm not going to bother, otherwise
18:49	o_cee	i'll fix that Slaytanic ;)
18:49	Slaytanic	You deserve some credit, o_cee .)
18:49	o_cee	you too ;)
18:50	Slaytanic	Those guys doing the german translation must have a hell of a time trying to fit those long sentences into the limited screen space... Swedish is bad, but German is far worse when it comes to word length.
18:50	Chutt	'guy'
18:50	Chutt	most of it's sfr
18:51	o_cee	i'm going to beat him as to having the most translated myth
18:51	Slaytanic	Good goal.
18:51	o_cee	;)
18:51	Slaytanic	What's his percentage?
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18:51	Chutt	the japanese translation's the most complete
18:51	o_cee	dunno, but pretty good
18:51	Chutt	at least wrt mythtv
18:52	o_cee	oh.. :) well then going to beat that
18:52	Chutt	german is 74% complete
18:52	o_cee	no problem
18:52	Chutt	current swedish translation is 45%
18:53	Chutt	japanese is 92%
18:53	o_cee	nice
18:53	Slaytanic	o_cee: What you at now, 80%?
18:53	o_cee	no idea
18:53	o_cee	Chutt: how do you check that?
18:55	Chutt	lrelease -verbose
18:55	o_cee	oooooh :)
18:56	o_cee	717 finished, 29 unfinished and 202 untranslated messages
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18:56	Chutt	you're not up to date with current cvs
18:57	o_cee	no?
18:57	o_cee	should be pretty up to date
18:58	o_cee	but might need lprepare
19:01	thor__	there are 20 messages on what to do with the messages
19:01	o_cee	huh?
19:02	thor__	people just write too many damn pointless things
19:02	o_cee	oh
19:02	o_cee	yeah
19:03	thor__	oh crap, now I have to wrap my head around a thread patch
19:04	thor__	heh, nm
19:04	o_cee	Chutt: odd, translations for setup doesn't seem to work? are they really supposed to be in mythfrontend_sv.ts?
19:06	o_cee	hmm, i'll have to get back on that one
19:06	o_cee	no, it doesn't work..
19:12	o_cee	and it doesn't show the right lang on the menu either..
19:17	o_cee	updated now:
19:17	o_cee	713 finished, 33 unfinished and 203 untranslated messages
19:18	o_cee	dropped obsolete as well
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19:24	o_cee	anyone feel like applying a patch?
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19:28	o_cee	off to the list then.
19:28	o_cee	time for some sleep.. g'night all
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19:40	bbeattie	Anyone have an idea why when I added a new card (maybe unrelated) all my "scheduled recordings" show "don't record" / "never record" ?
19:41	bbeattie	I've got the latest cvs, and am using mythweb to verify the latest cvs didn't fix it.. Starting sunday it's not worked, I tried last night, and again today for the latest cvs.
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19:50	pahli_bar	major osdn failure? slashdot,freshmeat, sourceforge(partially) down
19:54	Dibblah	Seeing it from the UK, so maybe.
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20:08	mythtv_	hmm, anyway to get a history? I'm at home and am wondering if anyone had replied to my question
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20:08	mikegrb	mythtv_: thegrebs.com/irc/mythtv/
20:08	mikegrb	but this channel is for dev stuff not user support, see the topic
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20:37	Niqo	Hi
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21:54		* Captain_Murd wants to know if we can have the #mythtv channel made into a forum also.
21:55	thor__	let's take a friggin vote
21:58	thor__	Chutt, any idea what happens if the database version is higher than what's expected ?
22:00	Captain_Murdo	\| I think nothing would happen. it checks for specific versions then performs actions based upon the found version.
22:01	thor__	about to find out in any case :-)
22:01		* Captain_Murd creates an alias to /dev/null so people can send in their forum votes.
22:01	thor__	I vote for ... ah
22:01	thor__	nm
22:04	Chutt	thor, if it's higher?
22:04	Chutt	hmm
22:04	Chutt	stuff probably won't work, but it won't complain at all
22:05	thor__	add columns to music metadata
22:05	thor__	mfd
22:05	Chutt	and i'll respond to that email you sent me soonish, really, i will =)
22:05	thor__	no hurry here
22:05	thor__	:-)
22:05	Chutt	ah, if it's just added columns, i don't see it being a problem
22:05	thor__	figured, will know soon enough in any case
22:05	Chutt	i'd appreciate it if the changes happened in either mfd or mythmusic, though
22:06	Chutt	just so everyone has the same set, and stuff doesn't conflict
22:06	thor__	ah, yup
22:06	Chutt	if, say, steelep ever gets that arbitrary query stuff done =)
22:06	thor__	I need it for mfd, but I'll add it to mythmusic as well
22:06	Chutt	err, not either 'both'
22:06	Chutt	you understand what i'm sayin =)
22:06	thor__	yup
22:06		* Captain_Murd laughs at the -offtopic list comment
22:07	Chutt	which comment?
22:08	Chutt	not that people would move over to the -offtopic list
22:08	Chutt	but maybe it'd get used eventually
22:08	Captain_Murdo	\| yours
22:08	Captain_Murdo	\| :)
22:08	Captain_Murdo	\| literally laughed out loud
22:09	Chutt	it was that funny?
22:09	Chutt	heh
22:09	Captain_Murdo	\| done with perusing (and ignoring) all the forum messages now.
22:09	Captain_Murdo	\| just hit me as funny I guess. after all that, talk of forums, and other mythtv-* lists, and you comment on an -offtopic. :)
22:10	Chutt	wasn't that what the original thread starter said?
22:10	Captain_Murdo	\| get me in a good mood before I go off to pay a bunch of bills.
22:10	Captain_Murdo	\| yeah, he said he was suggesting other myth lists like mythtv-ivtv, mytthv-setup, etc..
22:10	Chutt	ah
22:10	Captain_Murdo	\| probably one of the few sensible suggestings out of all the people against the status quo.
22:10	Chutt	oh well
22:11	Captain_Murdo	\| anyway, enough forum talk, don't want anybody in here to get any ideas.
22:11	Chutt	if i split it, -users would be stated to be for actual mythtv issues
22:12	Chutt	and -offtopic would be for hardware, help me install l1n\|_\|x d00ds, etc
22:12	Captain_Murdo	\| ahh, ok. :) I thought it was meant as a joke.
22:12	Chutt	naw
22:12	Chutt	heh
22:12	Captain_Murdo	\| ok, makes sense now.
22:13	Captain_Murdo	\| must have taken it out of context since I didn't read what you were replying to.
22:13	Captain_Murdo	\| as if it was a place for people to go discuss forums.
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