| --- | Log | opened Sun Feb 08 00:00:08 2004 |
| 00:00 | Octane | text is always blurry, normal for tv output, have you tried video? |
| 00:01 | vuud1 | Octane, I was playing with the overscan / underscan percentages, but they seemed like they were not having any effect... |
| 00:01 | vuud1 | Video output to a monitor is fine... |
| 00:01 | Octane | to a tv? |
| 00:01 | Octane | youre not going to get clear text on a tv like amonitor |
| 00:01 | Octane | not even close |
| 00:01 | Octane | what kind of video card? |
| 00:02 | vuud1 | Octane, I am at the almost unreadable stage (like I cant read what the selections are on the record screen) |
| 00:02 | vuud1 | Its an Hauppauge pvr350 |
| 00:02 | Octane | oh |
| 00:02 | Octane | sorry at a loss then |
| 00:02 | vuud1 | Does the overscan settings affect the gui also? or just playback? |
| 00:02 | Octane | i dont think it even effects the 350 |
| 00:03 | Octane | but hey, what do i know |
| 00:03 | vuud1 | balz |
| 00:03 | vuud1 | oh well... |
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| 00:04 | Octane | sorry =( |
| 00:05 | vuud1 | s'okay |
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| 00:15 | vuud1 | "A goverment scientist accidentally revives a werewolf she fitter with a metal skin" - this is why I got mythtv? geeez the crap they will put on these days |
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| 00:19 | Salec | how well does the mythtv transcoder work? |
| 00:19 | Salec | would it be considered stable? |
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| 00:25 | ofer | yep, now you can skip the show andd watch the commercials |
| 00:27 | vuud1 | aw man... just when I thought it was okay... If I go into watch tv, hit M for the guide, then hit M again to go to a show it goes all black |
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| 01:04 | pcjabber | anyone here using a TiVo remote? |
| 01:04 | pcjabber | whoops, sorry, didn't realize we'd totally changed over to -users for support =) |
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| 03:52 | pigeon | hmm, how can i set the prefix for mythtv for make install? configure doesn't seem to be doing it with --prefix |
| 03:54 | Chutt | edit settings.pro |
| 03:57 | pigeon | Chutt: thanks, that works. |
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| 05:13 | bline | morning |
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| 05:27 | pigeon | hmm |
| 05:27 | pigeon | never managed to get this xmltv thing right with mythtv. |
| 05:30 | Slaytanic | XMLTV for what country? |
| 05:30 | pigeon | australia |
| 05:31 | pigeon | the channel table looks right. |
| 05:31 | pigeon | but, for example, i cannot change channel while watching tv. |
| 05:31 | pigeon | mythepg tends to segv too |
| 05:33 | pigeon | i thought tv_sort might help a bit with tv_grab_au, but it doesn't. |
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| 05:38 | Slaytanic | Have you checked the frequency id's in the channel editor? |
| 05:39 | pigeon | where is the "channel editor"? |
| 05:41 | pigeon | there are programmes in the "program finder" |
| 05:41 | pigeon | but if i goto "program guide", there's nothing in it. |
| 05:41 | pigeon | and if I press an arrow key, it segvs. |
| 05:42 | pigeon | one thing, is that possible to run the mythtv without hiding the X cursor? |
| 05:46 | pigeon | hmm, it's all blank and "0" in the channel recording priorities setting screen. |
| 05:47 | pigeon | i guess this is not a good sign then. |
| 05:50 | pigeon | ok |
| 05:50 | pigeon | in the channel table, all the 'freqid' field are empty. |
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| 06:52 | pigeon | what should the freqid be in the channel table? |
| 06:56 | Rroet | moin all |
| 07:02 | Rince | pigeon: do you use ivtv? or bttv? |
| 07:03 | pigeon | neither |
| 07:03 | pigeon | got a saa7134 card. |
| 07:03 | pigeon | well, i have finally fixed the channels stuff. |
| 07:03 | pigeon | i guess, it's tv_grab_au's fault ;) |
| 07:05 | Rince | pigeon: here is an extract of mysql on me |
| 07:05 | Rince | mysql> select chanid,channum,freqid,callsign from channel; |
| 07:05 | Rince | +--------+---------+--------+----------+ |
| 07:05 | Rince | | chanid | channum | freqid | callsign | |
| 07:05 | Rince | +--------+---------+--------+----------+ |
| 07:05 | Rince | | 1000 | 16 | SE12 | 3Sat | |
| 07:05 | Rince | | 1001 | 1 | E5 | ARD | |
| 07:05 | Rince | | 1002 | 15 | E10 | ARTE | |
| 07:05 | Rince | chanid is myth-internal |
| 07:05 | Rince | channum is the number _you_ want to have it on your list |
| 07:05 | Rince | freqid is the frequency itself in the scheme-numbering |
| 07:05 | pigeon | right |
| 07:05 | Rince | callsign is the name of the channel |
| 07:05 | pigeon | i just manually fixed channum |
| 07:05 | Rince | ok ;) |
| 07:05 | pigeon | and then set freqid to be the same as channum |
| 07:06 | pigeon | and it seems to be happy now. |
| 07:06 | Rince | Hmm, shouldnÄt |
| 07:06 | pigeon | is channum and freqid supposed to be from the xmltv as well? |
| 07:06 | Rince | pigeon: I _guess_ you can and should take freqid from xmltv |
| 07:06 | Rince | but I can not really answer you this since I use ivtv, so I have a different viewpoint ;) |
| 07:06 | pigeon | the problem is... hmm, from the output of xmltv, channum and freqid are both blank, after mythfilldatabase. |
| 07:07 | Rince | hmm, maybe you have to type them in manually |
| 07:09 | pigeon | i also hacked mythfilldatabase to run tv_sort for the output of the tv_grab_* |
| 07:10 | pigeon | gr |
| 07:10 | pigeon | i missed charlie's angels on tv. |
| 07:11 | Rince | ;-) |
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| 08:17 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: your latest patches.. are those strings tr:ized? or do i need to do lupdate or something? ca' |
| 08:17 | o_cee | can't find "change recording group" for instance |
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| 08:32 | Rule | Hi all. Is there anyone working on CC/teletext/vps/pdc etc for mythtv ? finding stuff on these subjects proves surprisingly difficult using google :) (did Eric Arendse merge some code already ?) |
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| 08:48 | o_cee | there's cc support |
| 08:50 | Rule | ah nice |
| 08:50 | o_cee | as far as i know there's no work beeing done on the rest that i know about at least |
| 08:51 | Rule | ok, I saw some posts from Mr Arendse, but I now found his personal web page that states he stopped working on myth and started soing his own pvr :) |
| 08:51 | o_cee | ok |
| 08:51 | Rule | He is right in saying that for us Europeans, VPS or PDC would be extremely useful |
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| 08:53 | Rule | it seems he was doing quite a bit of work on myth, but never got the patches merged because of "high speed coders" :) seems cvs was a target moving too fast |
| 08:53 | Rule | bah :( |
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| 11:36 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee, I didn't run lupdate/lrelease. |
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| 11:58 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: ran it myself, worked like it chould, got the strings now |
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| 13:43 | Berto | hi |
| 13:43 | Berto | noticed new station available (76 ENCORE), re-run --configure |
| 13:43 | Berto | noticed new station available (99 TBN), re-run --configure |
| 13:44 | Berto | what program do i --configure |
| 13:44 | Berto | i forget :) |
| 13:44 | max|home | setup |
| 13:44 | max|home | but this isn't a user support channel... |
| 13:45 | Berto | oh i see. well thanks anyway |
| 13:45 | | * Berto reads topic |
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| 13:52 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: isn't it possible to zoom when in live tv? |
| 13:55 | max|home | ugh...there's no way to build two drivers into lirc, is there? |
| 13:55 | mdz | of course there is, they're separate modules |
| 13:55 | mdz | except in the case of the variants of lirc_sir |
| 13:56 | max|home | mdz, yeah, thats what I mean |
| 13:56 | max|home | i need hauppauge and act200l |
| 13:56 | max|home | doing --with-driver=any doesn't enable the ACT200L #define... |
| 13:57 | max|home | (this is for packaging it on gentoo) |
| 13:57 | max|home | unless I'm missing something very obvious |
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| 14:06 | mdz | max|home: right, you can only build that particular module one way |
| 14:07 | max|home | thanks mdz |
| 14:08 | max|home | I did get the runtime stuff allowing multiple agents with the same install...oh well...users can build it twice: once with --with-driver=any and once with --with-driver=act200l |
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| 14:27 | Captain_Murdo | | o_cee, you could, there's just no way to turn on zoom mode in livetv right now. need a menu somewhere. :) |
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| 15:03 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: allright, that's what i thought :) |
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| 15:14 | zaQer1231 | hi, I have a problem with my LVM partition... df command reports ~27% utilization, but the disk is full. Any idea why ? |
| 15:15 | zaQer1231 | is there some kind of minimal block size per file that I might have set too high, causing a large number of small files to eat up all disk space ?? |
| 15:16 | Rince | inodes? |
| 15:17 | zaQer1231 | don't know... |
| 15:18 | zaQer1231 | sorry, I guess mythtv-users is a little more appropriate; |
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| 15:24 | zaQer1231 | Rince: that seem to be it: for some reason, my lvm partition is only 20k inodes... Not sure what I have done wrong to create it with such a small number of inodes... |
| 15:24 | o_cee | anyone feeling bored and want something easy to code? |
| 15:24 | | * Rince can not code ... shellscripting yes, but no coding ;) |
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| 15:25 | o_cee | heh :) |
| 15:27 | Spida | Is there any way to see what frequency my tv-card (pvr 350) is tuned to? |
| 15:31 | Rince | Spida: test_ioctl -a |
| 15:32 | Spida | ah, thx |
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| 16:04 | Spida | YEAH, I GOT SOUND WORKING!!! *G* |
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| 16:35 | Octane | Spida well done |
| 16:35 | Octane | anyone know how get mythtv to update 1 or 2 channels w/o clearing all channel information in setup? |
| 16:35 | o_cee | "update" as in? |
| 16:36 | Octane | -update? |
| 16:36 | o_cee | -update? |
| 16:36 | Octane | well |
| 16:36 | Octane | i thought youw ere saying mythfilldb --update |
| 16:36 | Octane | update as in, update two channels which have been changed |
| 16:36 | Octane | 108 used to be style for me |
| 16:36 | Octane | now its uhm |
| 16:37 | Octane | some other shit |
| 16:37 | o_cee | dunno if NA people are supposed to use the chan editor.. |
| 16:37 | o_cee | --update in mythfilldatabase isn't what you want anyway |
| 16:37 | Octane | yah iknow |
| 16:38 | o_cee | --configure in that case |
| 16:38 | o_cee | but i know nothing about the NA situation on those things |
| 16:39 | Octane | maybe ill just reset my channels in setup |
| 16:39 | Octane | but i have taken out so many channels from the cahnnel tabl |
| 16:39 | Octane | e |
| 16:42 | cmorgan | Octane: still looking to fix your channel lineup? |
| 16:43 | Octane | lol yah! |
| 16:43 | Octane | only 2 channels, not as bad as yours |
| 16:43 | cmorgan | heh |
| 16:43 | Octane | the channel table it fine |
| 16:43 | Octane | is* |
| 16:43 | cmorgan | yeah, lots of channel changing for me |
| 16:45 | Octane | has your setupname.xmltv in .mythtv changed? |
| 16:45 | cmorgan | mine? |
| 16:47 | Octane | yah |
| 16:48 | cmorgan | i don't think so... how would it have changed? |
| 16:48 | Octane | well |
| 16:48 | Octane | whenever i update my channels |
| 16:48 | Octane | like take ones out |
| 16:49 | Octane | i update that as well |
| 16:50 | cmorgan | aahh, |
| 16:50 | cmorgan | if you run tv_grab_na --configure again it updates the channel list |
| 16:50 | Octane | oooh!! |
| 16:50 | cmorgan | i looked in the file and it has the correct channels now |
| 16:50 | Octane | i wonder if itll rewrite my tw.xmltv |
| 16:51 | cmorgan | now to run mythfilldatabase and then to check the web guide to see if it worked |
| 16:51 | cmorgan | doh, it reports lots of errors saying channels aren't available, telling me to rerun --configure |
| 16:51 | cmorgan | lets try that |
| 16:52 | Octane | im gonan back up my mythconverg |
| 16:52 | cmorgan | now the blah.xmltv file is back to its previous state...wtf |
| 16:53 | Octane | backing up the 140,000 lines in my mythconverg lol |
| 16:53 | Octane | err records |
| 16:54 | Octane | reading all this pvr350 stuff on the ml im so happy i dont have one :) |
| 16:56 | cmorgan | blah, ran mythfilldatabase and my .xmltv files are back to their previous state |
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| 16:57 | Octane | wtf? |
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| 16:59 | cmorgan | whats wrong with the 350? works great for me ;-) |
| 17:00 | Octane | dude |
| 17:00 | cmorgan | alright |
| 17:00 | Octane | all tv_grab_na --configure do is create a new xmltv file |
| 17:00 | Octane | which is what you need |
| 17:01 | cmorgan | moved my .xmltv file out of the way, copied the .xmltv file from ~/.xmltv/ to ~/.mythtv/ and i'm all set now i think |
| 17:02 | cmorgan | so mythfilldatabase has the correct ordr |
| 17:03 | cmorgan | but according to the web channel guide it is still off... |
| 17:04 | cmorgan | i'll just wait until the filldatabase is done... |
| 17:06 | Octane | did you empty out program ? |
| 17:06 | cmorgan | ? |
| 17:06 | Octane | the program table |
| 17:06 | cmorgan | how would i do that? |
| 17:06 | cmorgan | manually? |
| 17:06 | Octane | in mysql |
| 17:07 | Octane | yah i think thats what you wanna do so that you mythfilldb updates everythign |
| 17:07 | cmorgan | oh, no |
| 17:07 | cmorgan | hmm |
| 17:07 | Spida | is it normal that I have to hit the record button to get sound in tv working? |
| 17:07 | cmorgan | Octane: did that fix it for you? |
| 17:08 | Octane | cmorgan: i already did that manually |
| 17:08 | o_cee | Spida: check your recording profile for live tv |
| 17:08 | Octane | i have the new channel list file and i renamed it to tw.xmltv |
| 17:08 | Octane | my config |
| 17:08 | Octane | im contemplatign what to do next |
| 17:09 | Octane | drop program and channel tables hmm |
| 17:09 | cmorgan | Octane: do i want to do the same with the channel table as well? |
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| 17:09 | cmorgan | maybe i can easily rename them ;-) |
| 17:09 | Octane | cmorgan: yah make sure you back them up though :) |
| 17:09 | Octane | or rename |
| 17:09 | Octane | use mysqlcc |
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| 17:11 | cmorgan | i'm using tora |
| 17:11 | cmorgan | ahh screwit |
| 17:11 | cmorgan | i'll just drop those tables |
| 17:11 | cmorgan | worst case i can reschedule the shows to record again |
| 17:13 | Octane | i just emptied them too |
| 17:13 | Octane | O_O |
| 17:13 | Spida | o_cee: anything special that I should check there? my profiles (livetv, default, highquality and lowquality) have all the same settings... |
| 17:15 | Octane | now to see if itll read my xmltv file :) |
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| 17:17 | Octane | cool |
| 17:17 | Octane | mythfilldb skips the "not channels" |
| 17:17 | Octane | actually thats xmltv |
| 17:17 | Octane | good bye |
| 17:17 | Octane | boy* |
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| 17:17 | o_cee | Spida: just an idea why you didn't have sound in live tv (live tv profile having wrong audio settings or something) |
| 17:18 | Spida | o_cee: is it normal that I have 5 default profiles in the db? |
| 17:19 | o_cee | probably |
| 17:19 | o_cee | there's different groups |
| 17:19 | Spida | o_cee: maybe choosing the wrong group...? |
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| 17:22 | o_cee | Captain_Murdoch: the thing you commited that lets you jump x amount of minutes from within livetv, it's not possible to use if you have the direct channel switch option turned on right? or how does it work? |
| 17:22 | Octane | QTime::setHMS Invalid time 28:00:00.000 |
| 17:22 | Octane | QDate::setYMD: Invalid date 2935-93-02 |
| 17:22 | Octane | whats that all about |
| 17:22 | cmorgan | Octane: doh, mythfilldatabase failed, tables not found ;-) heh |
| 17:22 | Octane | cmorgan, silly should have emptied them not removed them :) |
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| 17:25 | cmorgan | oh, i'll just rerun the backend config app |
| 17:29 | cmorgan | hmm, that didn't appear to create the table |
| 17:30 | Octane | want the sql statement to create it? |
| 17:31 | cmorgan | i found some stuff in dbcheck.cpp |
| 17:31 | cmorgan | trying to figure out how to cause that to be run |
| 17:31 | Octane | thats for .13 |
| 17:31 | Octane | but it has the program db |
| 17:31 | Octane | actually one sec ill send you a .14 one |
| 17:32 | Octane | there you go |
| 17:32 | Octane | .14 |
| 17:32 | Octane | need channel too? |
| 17:33 | Octane | there is channel |
| 17:33 | cmorgan | thanks ;-) |
| 17:33 | Octane | accept :) |
| 17:34 | cmorgan | alright, think i can cause it to happen without executing those sql commands |
| 17:35 | Octane | running mythfilldb here |
| 17:36 | Octane | everythings looking good |
| 17:36 | Octane | its amazing, before i manually took out some channels from the channel table, i had around 600 channels. now i have 167 |
| 17:38 | cmorgan | i'm thinking that the backend should be creating those tables if they aren't present |
| 17:38 | cmorgan | Chutt: would that be an acceptable patch? |
| 17:39 | o_cee | that would mean you've mucked with stuff, meaning you should fix it yourself, no? :) |
| 17:40 | cmorgan | perhaps. its easy to correct automatically so why not? |
| 17:40 | o_cee | true |
| 17:41 | cmorgan | it also provides a pretty easy way of allowing lineup changes by simply dropping the programs and channels tables and letting them be rebuilt on the next startup |
| 17:43 | Chutt | why would you drop them? |
| 17:43 | cmorgan | Chutt: i was hoping they would get recreated. |
| 17:43 | Chutt | it's not trivial to recreate them, because they're initially created with an older version and then updated |
| 17:43 | cmorgan | Chutt: oops ;-) |
| 17:44 | Chutt | all you have to do to clear them out is say yes to the second question setup asks |
| 17:44 | cmorgan | ahh |
| 17:44 | o_cee | Chutt: hi |
| 17:44 | cmorgan | and that would take care of channel lineup changes? |
| 17:44 | Chutt | heu |
| 17:44 | Chutt | err, hey |
| 17:44 | o_cee | :) |
| 17:44 | Chutt | cmorgan, of course |
| 17:44 | cmorgan | is that in the faq? it might be good to have an entry for that ;-) |
| 17:44 | Chutt | aside from channel based records |
| 17:44 | Chutt | cmorgan, figured people would have run setup once or twice |
| 17:45 | cmorgan | yeah, so show recording is broken right? |
| 17:45 | o_cee | Chutt: you got room for an easy (i think) twoliner? |
| 17:45 | cmorgan | it will be recording the weather channel justl ike it was ;-) |
| 17:45 | o_cee | room = time |
| 17:45 | Chutt | cmorgan, right, since it's tied to chanid |
| 17:45 | cmorgan | Chutt: its easy enough to correct for that |
| 17:46 | Chutt | <shrug> |
| 17:46 | cmorgan | Chutt: by deleting and recreating the scheduled shows |
| 17:46 | Chutt | o_cee, not at the moment, but, what? |
| 17:46 | Chutt | how? |
| 17:46 | Chutt | manually? |
| 17:46 | cmorgan | yeah |
| 17:46 | o_cee | Chutt: the new behind real time thingie, it should warn when hitting exit as well i think.. |
| 17:46 | cmorgan | we might want to detect lineup changes and fixup the database for the end user |
| 17:47 | Chutt | sure, that'd be fine |
| 17:47 | o_cee | an additional check when leaving.. i'll see if i can find it myself, but i doubt it ;) |
| 17:48 | Chutt | o_cee, ok, remind me of it tomorrow? |
| 17:48 | o_cee | i'll try |
| 17:53 | o_cee | wish we had better guidedata here.. all the dupechecking is useless for me:/ |
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| 17:56 | pigeon | very nce. |
| 17:56 | pigeon | nice |
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| 18:00 | o_cee | what's "Channel recording"? is it when you record a program anytime it's on a specific channel? |
| 18:00 | o_cee | (trying to translate) heh |
| 18:01 | Spida | the sourceid that "mythfilldatabase --file " expects as first parameter, is that the xml-source-id, or the card-number? |
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| 18:01 | Chutt | sourceid in the database |
| 18:02 | Chutt | video source # generated when you created a video source in step 3 of the setup program |
| 18:07 | thor__ | so I think I'm going to go with first 1024 bytes of the file + file length + last 1024 bytes of the file as a message, run it through openssl md5 digest, and take all the even bytes as my persistent content id |
| 18:07 | thor__ | objections ? |
| 18:08 | o_cee | that should work ;) |
| 18:09 | thor__ | going once ... |
| 18:09 | o_cee | i saw your commited html stuff |
| 18:09 | o_cee | haven't looked at it |
| 18:10 | thor__ | it's a mess (the code) ... let me clean it up a bit before you try and make it proper |
| 18:12 | o_cee | heh, okay |
| 18:12 | o_cee | you got any idea what it should look like? |
| 18:12 | Chutt | thor, i'd use slightly more than 1k |
| 18:12 | thor__ | going twi ... oh |
| 18:12 | thor__ | 2? 4? |
| 18:13 | Chutt | 2 or 4 would be better |
| 18:13 | Chutt | just thinking that depending on metadata, etc |
| 18:13 | thor__ | o_cee, it should look as nice as the status stuff :-) |
| 18:13 | Chutt | you're no longer guaranteed unique, you know, if you only use even bytes |
| 18:13 | o_cee | right :) |
| 18:14 | Chutt | i'd store the entire thing in the db |
| 18:14 | Chutt | and drop bytes for when you need less |
| 18:14 | Chutt | and only when you need less =) |
| 18:14 | thor__ | Chutt, yup, ok .... just nice to be able to do everything with a uint64_t |
| 18:14 | Chutt | right |
| 18:15 | Chutt | could always just use a 16 char array, though, no? |
| 18:15 | Chutt | 64-bit math isn't all that fast |
| 18:15 | thor__ | yup, but QIntDict's have to become QMap's (not a big issue) |
| 18:15 | Chutt | ah |
| 18:16 | Chutt | heh |
| 18:16 | Chutt | i wonder if QMap is better implemented than the map<> in gcc 3.2 |
| 18:16 | o_cee | is qt3.3 final now? |
| 18:16 | Chutt | std::map is way too ram hungry |
| 18:16 | Octane | man that bruce dude aint shutting up |
| 18:16 | Chutt | o_cee, yup |
| 18:16 | thor__ | needs to be fast .... every new piece of metadata that arrives, lookup "have we seen this unique id before"? |
| 18:16 | o_cee | Chutt: anything useful? |
| 18:17 | Chutt | yup |
| 18:17 | Chutt | nothing that can be used in mythtv yet, since i'm only requiring 3.1 |
| 18:17 | Chutt | anyway, back later |
| 18:17 | thor__ | k |
| 18:17 | o_cee | bah, people just need to upgrade :) |
| 18:17 | o_cee | later |
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| 18:22 | o_cee | thor__: what should be displayed on the page? |
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| 18:23 | killerbun | anyone with a nvidia card wanna help me a bit ? |
| 18:23 | thor__ | o_cee, easiest thing is to build it ... it's a small table that (currently) lets you play audio |
| 18:24 | o_cee | i'll co it |
| 18:26 | thor__ | top row of table/interface should/will be all available mfds, next row "buttons" for Satus, Audio, Video, Images (etc?) |
| 18:27 | thor__ | it's but ugly right now, but I'm sure you'll have thoughts on how to make it useful |
| 18:27 | thor__ | butt |
| 18:28 | o_cee | building it |
| 18:35 | o_cee | ah, it's done |
| 18:35 | o_cee | now what :) |
| 18:35 | Octane | muuuust get second pvr |
| 18:35 | Octane | card |
| 18:35 | thor__ | make install ; ldconfig |
| 18:35 | thor__ | mfd |
| 18:35 | thor__ | then browser to localhost:2345 |
| 18:36 | thor__ | (you may need to kill off an mtd if you have one running) |
| 18:36 | o_cee | hmm |
| 18:36 | thor__ | actually cd mfd, ./mfd -l 10 is better |
| 18:37 | o_cee | This app was compiled against libmyth version: 0.15.20040206-1 |
| 18:37 | o_cee | but the library is version: 0.14.20040123-1 |
| 18:37 | solarce | Has anyone heard of a line of STB/Brooktree tv tuner cards? |
| 18:37 | thor__ | ah |
| 18:38 | thor__ | you running bleading edge cvs ? |
| 18:38 | o_cee | yeah |
| 18:38 | o_cee | (of course) ;) |
| 18:38 | thor__ | change libversion in settings to 0.15 |
| 18:38 | o_cee | i'm the stupid kind that don't think things get broke |
| 18:38 | o_cee | okay |
| 18:38 | thor__ | sorry bout that |
| 18:38 | o_cee | :) |
| 18:38 | o_cee | rebuilding |
| 18:42 | Spida | what should I dod when my cableprovider has two programs on one channel (some childrens-channel in the morning/day, somthing else in the night)? how can I make sure that mythtv gets the epg-data right? |
| 18:44 | mdz | Spida: /topic |
| 18:46 | o_cee | mfd is running on a host called dragon |
| 18:46 | o_cee | we're in business |
| 18:46 | thor__ | yeah |
| 18:47 | thor__ | also, run iTunes somewhere |
| 18:47 | o_cee | ah shit, it grabed my songs from somewhere |
| 18:47 | o_cee | argh |
| 18:47 | o_cee | i'll see if i can do that |
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| 18:54 | thor__ | bbiab, daughter's bath time |
| 18:55 | o_cee | okay |
| 18:55 | pigeon | hey hmm... is the settings on mythweb per session only? |
| 18:56 | o_cee | no |
| 18:57 | pigeon | hmm somehow everytime i go there again, it's lost the settings. |
| 18:57 | pigeon | (All I've set is the date format) |
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| 18:57 | pigeon | time format in fact. |
| 18:57 | o_cee | pigeon: check conf file, you need to specify a host there ( think the readme says that as well) |
| 18:59 | o_cee | thor__: this ain't good |
| 18:59 | o_cee | i think |
| 18:59 | o_cee | 09/Feb/2004-00:59:44: WARNING: daap client plugin cannot talk to iTunes because |
| 18:59 | o_cee | it uses a totally undocumented Client-DAAP-Validation header |
| 19:13 | o_cee | lalala |
| 19:23 | o_cee | thor__: it's getting late, get back here dammit :) |
| 19:24 | thor__ | heh |
| 19:24 | thor__ | 09/Feb/2004-00:59:44: WARNING: daap client plugin cannot talk to iTunes because <-- that's ok |
| 19:24 | thor__ | can't share iTunes content (cause iTunes is stupid) |
| 19:24 | thor__ | but iTunes should see your myth content |
| 19:25 | thor__ | and you should be able to make the box the mfd is running play content via http://localhost:2345/ |
| 19:26 | o_cee | oh, okay |
| 19:26 | o_cee | yeah, itunes found it |
| 19:26 | thor__ | stick a CD in the mythbox |
| 19:27 | thor__ | audio CD |
| 19:27 | o_cee | have to try it when i've got the audio running |
| 19:27 | o_cee | got no cd-rom in it :) |
| 19:27 | thor__ | ah |
| 19:27 | thor__ | k |
| 19:27 | o_cee | itunes didn't report any size tho |
| 19:27 | thor__ | streams (doesn't know) |
| 19:27 | o_cee | okay.. there where lengths |
| 19:28 | thor__ | well, it does know, but doesn't bother to figure it out |
| 19:28 | o_cee | hehe |
| 19:28 | o_cee | are there any other daap client thingie? |
| 19:28 | thor__ | other software ? |
| 19:29 | o_cee | yeah |
| 19:29 | o_cee | instead of itunes |
| 19:29 | thor__ | at least a dozen or so, more coming I suspect |
| 19:29 | o_cee | any good? |
| 19:29 | thor__ | not particularily |
| 19:29 | o_cee | :) |
| 19:30 | thor__ | but they're getting better |
| 19:30 | o_cee | all music is on this computer.. so it goes from here, to myth, back here :) |
| 19:30 | thor__ | heh |
| 19:30 | thor__ | if you had oggs and stuff, you could play them too (in iTunes) |
| 19:31 | o_cee | Please complain to Apple at: <--- hehhe, yeah, like they'd care :) |
| 19:31 | thor__ | can't hurt :-) |
| 19:31 | o_cee | oh.. only got mp3's tho |
| 19:32 | thor__ | via the mfd, you can even play wma's in iTunes :-) |
| 19:32 | thor__ | the 2345 should be a standin client .... make audio play, see images, etc. |
| 19:33 | thor__ | the server is built in, so we can make it do whatever we want |
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| 19:33 | o_cee | looks very impressive :) |
| 19:33 | thor__ | I just made it for debugging, but it could be quite powerful |
| 19:34 | thor__ | gotta run , and I think you have to sleep, but if you have any thoughts on what/how the 2345 stuff should work, I'd be more than happy to implement them |
| 19:35 | thor__ | and you want to do a "mfdctl stop" to shut it down, or the zeroconfig entries won't go away |
| 19:37 | o_cee | okay:) |
| 19:37 | o_cee | yeah, i'm going to bed very soon |
| 19:37 | o_cee | later |
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| 20:00 | mdz | does iTunes not support vorbis or wma out of the box? |
| 20:05 | solarce | nope |
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| 20:15 | jforman | i just finished the cable provider setup of myth, and i exited out of that menu, and now i just get a progress meter showing at 50% with no net, |
| 20:15 | jforman | HD or Proc activity |
| 20:15 | jforman | using version .14 on gentoo |
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| 20:17 | Octane | you know what would be cool, a history function that would support 3 channels |
| 20:20 | Chutt | octane, what would be even cooler would be a history function that supported any number of channels |
| 20:20 | Chutt | oh, wait, that's what the history function in mythtv does :p |
| 20:20 | Octane | LOL |
| 20:20 | Octane | damnit |
| 20:22 | Octane | on second thought most of the time you want the history channel to just do 2 chans i guess |
| 20:24 | mdz | yeah, I guess it would be nice to have a feature which made it simple to use it either way |
| 20:24 | mdz | oh good, that's EXACTLY WHAT IT DOES ALREADY |
| 20:24 | Octane | cute |
| 20:25 | Octane | was just thinking out loud |
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| 21:36 | thor__ | mdz, no |
| 21:36 | thor__ | no flac |
| 21:36 | thor__ | nor flac |
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| 21:45 | newtroot | does anyone have any experience setting up mythvideo with the PVR 350? |
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| 22:15 | Niqo | damn, second server crash in a couple of hours :( |
| 22:20 | Niqo | running a -pre kernel though, so I'm to blame |
| 22:21 | Niqo | I'm thinking of changing distro from Gentoo, how fast is sarge out with new packages (like kde 3.2)? |
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| 22:28 | Omnic | mdz: hmmm... appears I forgot to open this channel when I restarted irssi |
| 22:28 | mdz | Niqo: http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianKDE |
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| 22:29 | | * mdz mumbles about debian questions in #mythtv and mythtv questions in #debian-devel |
| 22:30 | Omnic | mdz: :P leave one then :) |
| 22:31 | Omnic | mdz: anyway, what I was going to ask... probably to the general channel population.. has there ever been a method of scheduled recording that works as a substring match on program title suggested before? |
| 22:31 | mdz | Omnic: not that I recall |
| 22:32 | Omnic | it would be very very useful here... the local network has a pretty crappy stream of data for programming information... |
| 22:32 | mdz | they can't even get the title right? |
| 22:32 | mdz | Omnic: what would the UI look like? |
| 22:33 | Omnic | take your pick from "Title: With Episode", "" or "Title", "With Episode" or "Title : With Episode", "" or "Title: .." or "Title - .." etc etc.... no consistency. |
| 22:34 | Omnic | mdz: I was thinking, take the title that you selected - an example - Thursday here, at 8:30PM, we have "Third Watch In Lieu Of Johnson". |
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| 22:34 | Niqo | mdz: Excelent! (I'm getting tired of compiling every upgrade, even with a dual 2.8mp+2.2xp+800celery in distcc..) |
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| 22:35 | Omnic | take that title, and put that up in a dialog box. the left and right arrows remove/add words from the right hand side until you get the title of the show. then the scheduler can look for program.title LIKE 'record.title%' - if that make sense? |
| 22:35 | Omnic | I plan to write a patch that implements this... does it seem reasonable? |
| 22:36 | mdz | I've never had a need for anything like that, so I'm not sure |
| 22:36 | Omnic | heh... I do :) |
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| 22:36 | mdz | if you can make it fit into the UI without disrupting what's there, I don't see why not |
| 22:37 | Omnic | mdz: mainly because here, like i mentioned, the networks have a crappy data feed. and the feed even has contents that change... |
| 22:37 | mdz | Omnic: maybe it would be better implemented in xmltv |
| 22:37 | mdz | rather than mythtv |
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| 22:37 | mdz | mangle the data into a consistent form before it gets imported into mythtv |
| 22:38 | Omnic | mdz: hmm, perhaps, but xmltv then needs a way to know what title's you've previously had to know which to set right... |
| 22:38 | Omnic | How do you decide what the title is in "Third Watch In Lieu Of Johnson", without storing something somewhere? in mythtv, you get this in a table. |
| 22:38 | Omnic | and, it can also traverse channels in mythtv. |
| 22:39 | Omnic | (personally, I think xmltv is a piece of crap anyway..) |
| 22:41 | Niqo | hmm, I think it's pretty darn versatile..why crap? |
| 22:42 | Omnic | Niqo: it just feels really inelegant... |
| 22:42 | Omnic | doesn't help that tv_grab_nz is in python. |
| 22:45 | Niqo | blame the nz author...sn is in perl, and mine has been tweaked nicely to add features :) love it |
| 22:47 | Omnic | yeah... I don't like local tweaking. everything should be upstream... :/ |
| 22:47 | Omnic | (the other bad bit is that silly _nz uses a source that gives 7 days, when there's another available with 14 days |
| 22:48 | Niqo | some things is local, like my 100+ lines of regexp to match description keywords, than in effect makes my mythepg colorfull ;) |
| 22:48 | Niqo | it's ugly and not worth adding to the mainline |
| 22:49 | Niqo | Omnic: then rewrite a grabber to use the new source, and do it well |
| 22:49 | Niqo | the output format is just perfect (almost) |
| 22:50 | | * Niqo is going to stress test his server now, back in a bit |
| 22:50 | Omnic | Niqo: meh... that means I'd have to learn everything about xmltv. I'd rather not, I have a life :) |
| 22:52 | Niqo | oh |
| 22:52 | Omnic | I'll look at it one day |
| 22:57 | Niqo | yea, do that, my tv_grab_sn is ~700 lines with comments, and not all that to understand... |
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| 23:13 | Niqo | damn, still infected... |
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| 23:35 | max|home | Chutt, for whenever you have a chance ... I got that user to post a full changelog of the crash. I certainly can't make heads or tails of it, but you're the expert. (it's in the last comment of: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38650 ) |
| 23:35 | max|home | err... s/changelog/log/ |
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| 23:37 | Chutt | -funroll-loops |
| 23:37 | Chutt | why do people do that? |
| 23:38 | max|home | dunno.. should I have him try without it? should I filter that out as part of the build? |
| 23:38 | Chutt | naw |
| 23:38 | Chutt | i was just commenting |
| 23:38 | Chutt | it's an ivtv problem. |
| 23:38 | Chutt | ivtv: giving up waiting for DMA pending clear |
| 23:38 | max|home | i haven't made the switch to ivtv so I'm not privvy to versions...is there a different one he should try? |
| 23:39 | Chutt | and the: |
| 23:39 | Chutt | Couldn't read data from the capture card in 15 seconds. Game over, man. |
| 23:39 | Chutt | ivtv dying |
| 23:39 | Chutt | mythtv reports it as such |
| 23:39 | max|home | any idea what would cause that? |
| 23:40 | Chutt | i'd say to try it with a stock kernel |
| 23:40 | Chutt | but i doubt that that'd help |
| 23:41 | Chutt | it's a semi-common driver bug |
| 23:41 | Chutt | doesn't happen to anyone who can fix it, though |
| 23:42 | max|home | ok, thanks |
| 23:42 | Niqo | i've had severe problems with gentoo-sources (although with other half-open drivers, so I didn't bother with it) |
| 23:42 | Niqo | max|home: are you the gentoo mythtv maintainer? |
| 23:42 | max|home | Niqo: yup |
| 23:43 | Niqo | is the dvb part of it still commented out? |
| 23:43 | Chutt | there have been a number of reports of people having problems with the gentoo kernel |
| 23:43 | max|home | i enabled it as part of .14-r1 |
| 23:43 | Chutt | and they say that using a stock one helped |
| 23:43 | Niqo | thanks :) |
| 23:43 | max|home | Chutt: good to know, I'll have him try it. thanks again |
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