TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#mythtv:2004:02:07

---	Log	opened Sat Feb 07 00:00:23 2004
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02:36	thor__	Chutt, you know of any easy way to calculate a limit on simultaneous CD access ?
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02:38	thor__	cdparanoia and/or my trusty TDK drive seems to be able to serve out 4 different tracks to four different mfd audio plugins simultaneously, but I have no idea how to precalculate a limit?
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02:58	ShockValue	anyone have any luck getting dolby prologic out of mythtv? im stumped
03:00	Netslayer	interesting the clock strikes midnight and i get a frontend crash: Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busypure virtual method called
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03:30	Chutt	thor, i would've assumed that you only could do one
03:31	Chutt	shockvalue, default settings are to encode in plain stereo, which preserves any dolby surround encoding in the audio.
03:31	thor__	heh
03:31	thor__	nope, happy with 5 possibly more
03:33	Chutt	funky
03:33	thor__	yeah, it's actually very cool
03:35	thor__	on to the ripper/transcoder framework
03:35	Chutt	cool =)
03:36	thor__	think I sorted out the segfault thing, and the answer was not that there's some high fallutin difference between a_pointer and &(*a_pointer)
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03:37	Chutt	heh
03:37	Chutt	what was it?
03:38	thor__	it was getting deleted in two places .... I was just getting confused by all the threads
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03:42	thor__	heh, that was cool
03:42	thor__	just moving some files around in my music collection
03:42	thor__	and iTunes suddenly updated
03:42	thor__	still amazes me
03:59	thor__	is it just me, or did image pre-scaling get a whole lot faster?
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07:47	Spida	hi
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09:08	jDeGraw	I have a PVR250 and mythtv working really nice. However, I do have a question. It seems the pvr250 captures video in mp1 format and video in mp2. When I load it up in an editing program like virtualdub it chokes on the audio. Lists it as unknown. audio: mp2/48000hz/stereo/384ks. video: mpeg1video. Do I have to convert the .nuv file using nuvexport or should I be using some other setting in mythtv?
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10:29	_rkulagow	chutt: did you change your stance on packaged binaries of CVS?
10:36	_rkulagow	mdz: here?
10:36	Snow-Man	I doubt he has, why?
10:41	_rkulagow	just curious; there's a message in the mailing list of someone offering either an RPM of .14 (which there already is one over at Thac's site) or of CVS.
10:41	Snow-Man	heh.
10:49	kvandivo	chutt said that he would allow something a week or so back.. don't remember the exact wording
10:49	kvandivo	it was relatively restrictive..
10:50	kvandivo	(he said it here.. not on the list)
10:50	kvandivo	(i'm pretty sure)
11:02	_rkulagow	anyone running debian unstable? i've done a build-dep mythtv based on mdz's stuff and i'm still gettng a "QSqlDatabase warning: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded" error.
11:02	_rkulagow	when i try to run mythfrontend
11:05	_rkulagow	huh. is there some way to get apt to tell me which package provides "libqsqlmysql.so"? aptitude doesn't seem to do that.
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11:13	Snow-Man	You can search on debian.org for it.
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11:39	_rkulagow	thanks. that helped. wonder why build-deps didn't catch that.
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11:47	max\|home	can one of the devs suggest what other information I need to get from this user to figure out why his livetv is crashing? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38650
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12:11	Chutt	max\|home, without the output of the backend, a bug report is rather useless.
12:11	max\|home	Chutt, ok I'll ask for that. thanks.
12:12	max\|home	in fact I might be able to provide one myself...I noticed that symptom the other day, but really didn't have time to investigate.
12:12	o_cee	pahli_bar: the swedish translation doesn't seem to kick in when using mythgallery? not mythnews either.. your or my fault? :)
12:16	pahli_bar	o_cee: the translations files seem upto date
12:17	Rince	ppl with PVR350: has anyone already tried to give the Framebuffer-Stuff out on the S-VHS instead of Composite? Should this work out-of-the-box?
12:17	o_cee	Rince: yes.
12:17	Rince	hm. strange.
12:17	Rince	testing
12:17	o_cee	pahli_bar: does it work for you?
12:17	Chutt	max\|home, it's probably due to the standard gentoo bug of crazy opts passed to gcc
12:18	Chutt	in which case, i don't really care =)
12:18	max\|home	those darn gentoo users! :)
12:19	max\|home	does the mythtv build system pluck CFLAGS from the environment?
12:19	Chutt	some parts of it will
12:20	pahli_bar	o_cee: how do you change the language
12:20	o_cee	pahli_bar: appearance settings
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12:20	pahli_bar	Svenska?
12:20	max\|home	Chutt, ah! that would definitely be a problem...know which parts? or would it be easier just to zero-out CFLAGS?
12:20	o_cee	yepp
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12:21	Chutt	not offhand
12:21	max\|home	ok
12:22	Rince	Hmm... no, doesn't work yet
12:22	Rince	but ok... not a real problem...
12:22	pahli_bar	o_cee: one sec
12:22	Rince	o_cee: do you also use digital audio by any chance?
12:23	o_cee	Rince: nope
12:23	Rince	ok, then I will just try on ;)
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12:24	pahli_bar	o_cee: same problem here. investigating...
12:25	o_cee	okay, great
12:26	o_cee	partly afk
12:26	pahli_bar	hmm... music seems i18ned. only my plugins are not
12:28	Chutt	max\|home, oh, it'd also probably be good to ask if there's any errors from the ivtv driver in the syslog from the time when mythbackend quit
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12:38	pahli_bar	o_cee: found the problem. typo in the path to search for the .qm files
12:39	pahli_bar	at least in mythnews. checking in mythgallery...
12:40	Chutt	heh, sorry
12:40	pahli_bar	heh. i wasn't sure whether it was me or you
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12:43	Spida_	hi
12:44	Chutt	i actually approved a moderated message to the list
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12:58	Chutt	heh
12:58	Chutt	fix threading problems by removing all the mutex locks
12:58	Chutt	that's smart
13:00	pahli_bar	Chutt: QString a = tr("some string"). so from now on "a" should be the translated string, right
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13:03	Chutt	yup
13:03	pahli_bar	hmmm...
13:06	vuud1	Anyone know why I would get i2c client addr not founds when I try to cat the video device (gentoo w / 2.4.24 and a PVR350)?
13:12	pahli_bar	funny.. it needs the Q_OBJECT macro for proper translation even if no signals/slots exist in the class.
13:12	Chutt	yup
13:13	pahli_bar	or use QObject::tr
13:13	pahli_bar	heh. nobody told me
13:16	pahli_bar	o_cee: both fixed.
13:17	o_cee	great:)
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13:27	Octane	does anyone else here sometimes get double mails
13:27	Octane	both on -dev and -users
13:28	josephk	anyone else experiencing ring buffer pauses with a pvr350 on channel changes ala http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=105081;search_string=pvr%20stutter%20channel%20change;guest=2253331&t=search_engine#105081 ?
13:28	josephk	I'm trying to track it down now
13:28	Chutt	josephk, use cvs.
13:31	Octane	il take that as a no
13:36	josephk	no Octane
13:36	josephk	thanks Chutt
13:36	josephk	I should know now that I can never exist in release land
13:37	Chutt	heh
13:37	Octane	ty josephk
13:37	Chutt	doesn't hurt to try cvs before embarking on a debugging adventure
13:39	Captain_Murdo	\| or like the guy on -users running month-old CVS complaining about duplicate recording problems.
13:39	josephk	yeah I should know...but I thought I might actually be able to use a release for once
13:39	thor__	<Chutt> fix threading problems by removing all the mutex locks
13:39	thor__	that in the music stuff ?
13:39	pahli_bar	heh. every developer seems to be following their preferred variable naming in uitypes
13:39	Chutt	thor, yeah
13:40	pahli_bar	m_wmult, m_context and then screen_area and then again drawFontShadow
13:40	thor__	though that looked wrong
13:40	josephk	my new child is making me forget things
13:40	thor__	pahli_bar, short = moe, long = me
13:40	pahli_bar	heh
13:41	Chutt	thor, i suggested how to better fix it
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13:41	thor__	k
13:41	Chutt	but i obviously can't test
13:41	thor__	he just needs to shorten the lock time, not rip them out
13:41	Chutt	yeah
13:42	Chutt	i said to try removing the lock for when it's sitting in select()
13:42	thor__	hmmm
13:42	josephk	hey...using the ivtv patch for mplayer and playing divx files with a lavc filter only locks the box some of the time
13:42	Chutt	heh
13:45	josephk	apparently some files have an "evil aura"
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13:46	josephk	very repeatable though so I guess I could step through the movies to see what is causing it
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13:50	racer	hello?
13:52	[DOA]Tarkie	hello!
13:53	josephk	oye vey!
13:53	racer	i'm looking for a off topic answer
13:53	racer	can i control the speed of my cdrom (safe) for playing music
13:53	racer	it makes to much noise
13:53	racer	at 40
13:54	racer	x
13:54	racer	hdparm?
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13:57	tmk	racer: i've seen that discussed on the web
13:57	tmk	google it
14:00	racer	thnx Kev! allready did, but some say its better not to do!
14:01	racer	because dvd speed is also affected
14:01	josephk	I remember that being a freevo option
14:01	racer	thought dvd is allways slower! :)
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14:10	tmk	racer: you should make a script to turn it slow then fast when cd is done
14:10	Chutt	tmk, yo
14:11	racer	think have to do that! thnx
14:11	tmk	sup chutt
14:11	Chutt	not much
14:12	Chutt	fixed some bugs wrt the pvr-350 in mythtv recently
14:12	tmk	oh?
14:12	Rince	what kind of bugs?
14:13	tmk	does it ff more than 3x yet? :)
14:13	Chutt	naw
14:13	Chutt	you should just update to cvs, is all
14:13	tmk	k
14:13	tmk	will do
14:13	josephk	the one I was snarfing about?
14:13	Chutt	josephk, yes, that's why i said to use cvs :p
14:13	tmk	chutt: has anyone else complained about remote backends not scheduling shows?
14:13	josephk	well it takes some time to compile
14:13	josephk	hehe
14:13	tmk	it works for livetv, but it won't record
14:14	Chutt	tmk, not that i've seen
14:14	tmk	k
14:14	Chutt	you have it set to the same video source as the main backend?
14:14	tmk	yeah
14:14	tmk	i redid it several times
14:14	Chutt	dunno
14:14	Chutt	run em with verbose turned on, see if there's anything in the logs?
14:14	tmk	yeah i haven't looked at it recently
14:14	tmk	the master knows about the slave
14:15	tmk	and the slave's picking up it's channel listings from the master
14:15	tmk	my db is probably messed up
14:15	tmk	when i move in a couple months (lord willing) i'll start from scratch
14:15	Chutt	logs might say more
14:15	Chutt	heh
14:16	tmk	thanks for myth btw. it's been working great for me lately
14:16	Chutt	i've just had one recent ivtv meltdown, too =)
14:16	Chutt	so my wife's happy
14:16	josephk	yeah...I'm warming my wife to it
14:16	josephk	"hey watch this"
14:17	billytwowilly	\| josephk: The best time to talk to her is after she's just missed her favorite show;)
14:17	josephk	"see that...now that nipple is immortalized and tivo doesn't know we watched"
14:17	josephk	lol
14:17	billytwowilly	\| hehe;)
14:17	billytwowilly	\| that works too;)
14:17	josephk	yeah...just have to make sure it never fails to record
14:18	billytwowilly	\| mines been running 0.12 from when it was released up until the release of 0.14 never missing a beat.
14:18	billytwowilly	\| It's now been running from the release of 0.14 to now without missing a beat either.
14:18	josephk	.14 is the best bar none
14:19	billytwowilly	\| I'm using a bt848 based tuner card though, I think the drivers are a little more stable than the ivtv drivers
14:19	billytwowilly	\| Yah, I agree. I switched from purple galaxy to gant.
14:19	billytwowilly	\| beautiful.
14:19	josephk	only had one problem and Chutt fixed it...ivtv is holding strong too
14:19	kvandivo	so billy, it cold up where you are?
14:19	billytwowilly	\| Plus WAY faster channel changing with my ati remote wonder
14:19	billytwowilly	\| kvandivo: It was -50 with windchill (that's in celsius, not your puny farenheight;)
14:19	billytwowilly	\| but now it's right around 0.
14:20	josephk	heat wave
14:20	billytwowilly	\| I want to get a pvr-250.
14:20	billytwowilly	\| the recording quality of my tuner card is crap.
14:20	billytwowilly	\| just no money/time right now.
14:20	billytwowilly	\| speaking of which, I gotta go.
14:20	billytwowilly	\| cheers.
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14:40	thor__	if I were interested in a 64-bit hash function, would it make any sense to do md5 and take, I dunno, every second byte ?
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14:50	kvandivo	whew.. just got done filing my taxes electronically. happy to have that over with
14:51	thor__	if only
14:51	o_cee	thor__: hash function? i'm actually just reading a course about those kind of things :)
14:52	thor__	I know nothing about hash functions ... and for annoying reasons it would be nice to have the hash by 8 bytes long
14:52	thor__	be 8
14:52	thor__	so I just need to choose something
14:52	thor__	but I'm completely ignorant
14:53	o_cee	guess there's alot of them out there to use, i guess we'll have to write them ourselves later on
14:53	mdz	thor__: crc32?
14:53	mdz	oh, 8 bytes
14:53	mdz	why is that a requirement?
14:54	thor__	this does not need to be secure, I just want to generate an 8 byte hash of content (mp3's, etc.) so that the mfd can tell if two things are the same
14:54		* Captain_Murd sees Chutt decided to end the discussion on -dev and just apply the channel visible toggle patch.
14:54	thor__	mdz, just so happens that both DAAP (for audio) and DPAP (for images) use an 8 byte "persistent id"
14:54	pahli_bar	md5 might be slow
14:55	thor__	it's not an absolute requirement
14:55	o_cee	Captain_Murdoch: you been thinking anything more about the things we talked about? (no, no.. not that.. the other thing we talked about)
14:55	thor__	but would be nice not to have to do workarounds
14:55	o_cee	thor__: what does daap use then?
14:55	thor__	dunno
14:55	o_cee	ah
14:56	o_cee	(the thing i'm reading is about hash tables btw.. but i guess that's not what you reffered to)
14:56	Captain_Murdo	\| haven't thought about it much. I think it would be best to put it somewhere else on the screen. also an info popup might be nice, my Dish Network receiver has something like that on the guide.
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14:56	thor__	hmmm man crc32 : No manual entry for crc32
14:56	o_cee	Captain_Murdoch: i really think the space is as used as it can be.. especially if you use previews
14:56	Captain_Murdo	\| was busy last night watching Myth and reformatting/merging-in the alternate scene change comm detection patch. now need to give it some testing.
14:57	o_cee	no use testing that here.. heh
14:57	Captain_Murdo	\| o_cee, yeah, I'm thinking something at the top maybe that just indicates what group you are viewing. obviously everything in the list is in that group (unless you're viewing the 'All' group).
14:58	Captain_Murdo	\| I need to make sure it didn't break existing stuff (looks like it's ok but want to verify). then if it does a better job than the current scene change stuff I might rip that out before committing.
14:58	o_cee	Captain_Murdoch: could work to yeah..
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15:00	pahli_bar	hmmm... might be a good idea to make layerset scrollable
15:02	thor__	The resulting checksum is 128 bits (16 octets) long, 64 bits of which are redundant.
15:02	thor__	that sounds promising
15:02	thor__	DES cipher-block chained checksum
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15:04	mdz	thor__: what is the purpose of the hash?
15:06	thor__	a checksum .... same file, same value .... different file (even by a "little" bit), different value
15:08	thor__	md5 would be fine ... but I don't want to say, take every second byte, and then have someone who actually knows something about this say, "well that was stupid"
15:08	thor__	you should have just done this ...
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15:32	mdz	thor__: yeah, if the idea is to check for equality, that's probably no good
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15:33	thor__	I'm thinking crc with 64 bits
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15:34	mdz	I'd imagine crc32 is probably sufficient
15:34	mdz	(and a lot faster)
15:34	thor__	ah ... just reading Numerical Recipes in C ...
15:34	thor__	(haven't got to speed yet)
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15:35	mdz	64-bit math on 32-bit systems is much slower than 32-bit math
15:36	thor__	hmm yup polynomials
15:36	thor__	order 64
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15:38	DogBoy	doh
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15:38	DogBoy	sorry about that
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15:41	thor__	mdz insanely dumb to do crc-32 on two halves of a file ?
15:41	mdz	thor__: redundant, I'd say
15:41	mdz	thor__: why not just use crc32 and store the result as a 64-bit quantity?
15:42	thor__	32 bytes would be empty?
15:42	thor__	which is fine, I guess
15:42	thor__	sorry, 32 bits would be empty
15:43	mdz	I still don't think I understand the point of it in the protocol though
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15:44	mdz	and if the protocol requires this, why it doesn't define how it should be calculated
15:44	thor__	daap is being reverse engineered
15:44	thor__	there's no "spec"
15:45	thor__	and I'm not actually going to use the has for talking to iTunes
15:45	thor__	use the hash
15:45	thor__	right now, two mfds that happen to have their music directories on the same nfs mount both see the data twice
15:46	thor__	so I want them to be able to say, ah, that's the same file
15:46	thor__	and the mfd's use daap to share music data
15:47	thor__	and daap's a binary protocol
15:47	thor__	and the only field I have left to play with is this persistent id thing
15:47	thor__	which is 8 bytes long
15:48	thor__	that make any sense?
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16:43	[DOA]Tarkie	does livetv mute the sound when playing static?
16:45		* jcw is away: I'm busy
16:49	mdz	thor__: yeah, I see
16:50	_rkulagow	mdz: good news, i'm now looking at CVS myth on my Xbox. bad news: i still need to get lirc configured so that i can do anything with it.
16:50	mdz	_rkulagow: you'll need the corresponding kernel-headers-x.y.z package for the kernel-image-x.y.z package you have installed
16:50	mdz	_rkulagow: or, rebuild your kernel from source
16:51	mdz	hopefully the xebian guys provided a kernel-headers package
16:51	_rkulagow	i'll check and see.
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17:06	vuud1	anyone pls: I am running myth on a pvr350... when I go to watch tv, I get a blank full screen monitor... is it trying to go to the pvr350 cards out or something?
17:07	vuud1	I also get a bunch of errors about writing strings: QSocketDevice:writeblockL Invalid socket
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17:20	[DOA]Tarkie	run up mythbackend with -v all
17:20	[DOA]Tarkie	and watch the errors
17:21	vuud1	[DOA]Tarkie, okay, I gotta run out - try that when I get back
17:26	_rkulagow	got all sorts of these though: Couldn't save cache cache image: /home/mythtv/.mythtv/themecache/blue.640.480/uparrow.png i guess nothing is explicitly creating the .mythtv directory if it doesn't already exist?
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17:39	cmorgan	Octane: you figure out how to fix the channel lineup?
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17:43	quink	nyone here have any sound issues? after ~20 minutes of live tv my sound goes funny
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18:14	Spida	Is there somebody with a pvr*50 card who could send (or let me download) a small live-tv-recording _with_audio_ for testing? That wiould help me very much...
18:14	Rince	Spida: is nuv enough?
18:15	Spida	when I can just put it in my recordings file and play it, yes
18:15	Spida	lets try
18:15	Rince	I fear that doesn't work
18:17	Spida	Rince: perhaps with the matching entries of the db...
18:19	Spida	Rince: just the length would do, I guess
18:20	Rince	Hm. other question: does the user running mythtv have the rights to use /dev/dsp and so on?
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18:20	Spida	Rince: I have audio when I run mythmusic....
18:21	Spida	so I believe that it isn't a permissions thing
18:21	Spida	video root $ id
18:21	Spida	uid=1000(myth) gid=100(users) groups=100(users),18(audio),19(cdrom),27(video),80(cdrw),85(usb)
18:21	Rince	Hmm, then I really do not know, sorry
18:21	Spida	Rince: can you give me a recording?
18:35	vuud1	Whoa - after days of banging my head against things - I got a tv picture... friggin amazing!
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18:38	Vanquish	what does "Found changes in the todo list" mean?
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18:43	vuud1	Now I am having a problem getting X to go to the television... I followed the ivtv howto for a PVR350 and everything works exept when I start X.. I get a black screen with XFree log errors about FBDEV(0) FBIOPAN_DISPLAY: Invalid argument
18:46	NiteOwl	what does /var/log/messsages say when you load ivtv-fb? What is the framebuffer device?
18:51	vuud1	NiteOwl, which part would that be? There is a line saying it attached to the ivtv card... then just after it says fb1: .... tv out frame buffer device
18:51	vuud1	is that is
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19:55	solarce	hmm, no /dev/video entries, cute
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20:14	Octane	cmorgan: i have not
20:14	Octane	man its so lame, remember that guy selling the oem pvr's on ebay?
20:14	solarce	yeah
20:14	Octane	like a dozen people already have reauctioned it and are making 20-60 dollars off of it
20:14	solarce	oi
20:14	Octane	http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=pvr+250&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&ebaytag1=ebayreg&srchdesc=n&maxRecordsReturned=300&maxRecordsPerPage=50&SortProperty=MetaEndSort
20:15	solarce	oi
20:15	Octane	i think thats all the same person
20:15	Octane	look at the names
20:15	Octane	they are identical
20:16	solarce	yeah
20:16	Octane	the name of the auction that is
20:16	Octane	yah same guy
20:16	Octane	im emailing him a rant
20:16	solarce	haha
20:28	quink	anyone here have any sound issues? after ~20 minutes of live tv my sound goes funny
20:44	solarce	blah
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21:34	Netslayer	is someone working on mpeg2 myth transcoder support for those of use using mpeg4?
21:35	Captain_Murdo	\| Netslayer: use nuvexport if you want mpeg4 -> mpeg2, ask on the mailing list or -users for more info.
21:39	Netslayer	i use it already
21:40	Netslayer	just thought i heard something
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21:56	zardus	hello
21:57	zardus	does anyone know why mythtv would connect to localhost?
21:57	Octane	127.0.0.1
21:57	Octane	put that in
21:58	zardus	that's what I meant
21:58	zardus	i've tried telnetting to the port, too
21:58	ofer	is mythbackend running?
21:58	zardus	i can do it from my laptop, but not from my desktop (which is running the backend)
21:58	zardus	yup
21:58	zardus	by "do it", I mean telnet
21:59	ofer	when you telnet to your desktop, your not using 127.0.0.1
21:59	zardus	no, i'm using the actual ip
21:59	ofer	try to input your computers ethernet ip address
21:59	ofer	instead of 127.0.0.1
22:00	zardus	ok, one sec
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22:05	zardus	well, it no longer just sits there trying to connect. now it actually tells me the backend isn't running
22:05	zardus	when it is
22:07	ofer	zardus: heh
22:09	zardus	hmm.. if I set the server ip in myth-setup to 127.0.0.1 then no matter if the backend is running or not the frontend freezes as soon as it tries to connect to it
22:10	ofer	for me both the server ip and the frontend ip are the machines ip address
22:10	zardus	this thing gets a different dhcp address every day, though, so that's tough to set up
22:11	ofer	ahh
22:12	zardus	gah. i don't think the frontend cares about the backend at all
22:13	zardus	with 127 it just hangs regardless of the backend's status, and with the actual ip it just says its not there, again regardless of the backend's status
22:13	ofer	do you have some sort of firewalling enabled?
22:13	zardus	nope
22:16	zardus	hmm, you know what, i think this box is screwed
22:16	zardus	can't ssh to itself either
22:16	ofer	that's a good diagnostic
22:16	ofer	can it ping itself?
22:17	zardus	hmm.. can't ping localhost and gives a "connect: invalid argument" when I try to ping the hostname the dhcp server gave it
22:24	zardus	i am a moron
22:24	zardus	didn't have the loopback interface defined in /etc/network/interfaces
22:25	zardus	the test installer broke on me halfway through and i had configured the box myself. forgot that part
22:27	ofer	hehe
22:27	ofer	good you figured it out =
22:27	ofer	=)
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22:31	zardus	yup
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22:40	ofer	anybody here use the dsmyth filters?
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23:58	vuud1	hey all - when I put X to go to my television I have two problems : either of which any advice would be good on... #1) the myth interface and tv picture goes off the edges of the screen, #2) the text is all blurry and hard to read... any ideas?
23:59	Octane	vuud1
23:59	Octane	do you ahve overscan set?
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