| --- | Log | opened Tue Feb 03 00:00:07 2004 |
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| 00:03 | <warlord> | Chutt: FWIW, it's clearly not 100% reproducible. When all I was doing was LiveTV it was having problems. When I was recoding on tuner 2 but watching livetv on tuner 1 it was having problems. But now I'm recording on 1 and 2, warching livetv on #3 and it's reading and playing at 30fps... |
| 00:03 | <warlord> | It's kind of acting like an ivtv race condition. |
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| 00:04 | <warlord> | (actually, it's still reading faster than it's playing, but only by about 3-5 frames every 5 seconds) |
| 00:04 | <Omnic> | is there a known problem with the cvs repository? |
| 00:04 | <Omnic> | cvs update: Updating libs/libdvbdev |
| 00:04 | <Omnic> | cvs update: cannot open directory /var/lib/mythcvs/mythtv/libs/libdvbdev: No such file or directory |
| 00:04 | <Omnic> | cvs update: skipping directory libs/libdvbdev |
| 00:05 | <warlord> | Omnic: IIRC that library was removed from CVS |
| 00:06 | <Chutt> | warlord, i'm seeing the same very slow increase, with just one live tv instance |
| 00:07 | <Omnic> | warlord: hrm. |
| 00:07 | <Omnic> | warlord: and I bet they removed the directory from the cvs repo. |
| 00:07 | <Omnic> | evil bad |
| 00:08 | <Chutt> | no, it moved. |
| 00:08 | <Chutt> | and rather than lose change history, i moved it in the repository |
| 00:09 | <Omnic> | Chutt: hrm. ok, that's a pain |
| 00:09 | <Chutt> | since change history is, to me, much more important than users complaining about a rather meaningless warning :p |
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| 00:09 | <Omnic> | Chutt: one thing cvs doesn't do well. :/ |
| 00:09 | <livesN[box]> | has anyone built an ir transmitter for use with lirc/mythtv ? |
| 00:10 | <livesN[box]> | i got lirc installed and (i think) working -- but i don't think I wierd my transmitter correctly. |
| 00:11 | <Omnic> | Chutt: as an aside, did you ever look at the patch that Oscar Carlsson wrote for making the html status thing much prettier? |
| 00:11 | <warlord> | Chutt: well, at least you're seeing it :) |
| 00:11 | <warlord> | I'm heading to bed. Good night. |
| 00:11 | <warlord> | And thanks... :) |
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| 00:13 | * | Omnic prods Chutt |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | omnic, err, it's in cvs |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | and the 0.14 release |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | and the 0.13 release |
| 00:14 | <Omnic> | oh, cool. |
| 00:14 | * | mdz bonks Omnic |
| 00:14 | <Omnic> | I hadn't updated cvs since I applied it, and it had conflicts. |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | so, it's been in for a few months now. |
| 00:14 | <Omnic> | Chutt: my apologies, I was looking for an 'Applied' mail from you... :> |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | there was one, several months ago |
| 00:15 | * | Omnic tickles mdz |
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| 00:15 | <Omnic> | Chutt: ok, again, sorry, I must have missed it. |
| 00:16 | <Omnic> | I just decided to do a long overdue upgrade |
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| 00:18 | <hadees> | anyone been having trouble when after you press right a few times (durning playing a recording) it skips ahead fine but eventually it starts to freeze when you do it for a while then starts back up playing again |
| 00:18 | <hadees> | i am not doing it all at once, i know that causes it |
| 00:19 | <hadees> | this is more spread out |
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| 01:03 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
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| 01:21 | <livesN[box]> | is anyone here who might not mind helping me with a homebrew IR transmitter using lirc ? |
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| 01:52 | <eyver> | Ah man, not a user support channel. I was hoping this would be the back-up in case of no response on the mailing list. ;) |
| 01:57 | <mdz> | eyver: #mythtv-users |
| 01:57 | <eyver> | Awesome, thanks. |
| 02:02 | <hadees> | theres a mythtv-users now, opps |
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| 03:12 | <NotFro> | I was in the other day saying my computer was freezing while recording shows sometimes and someone suggested some acpi lilo options but I neglected to save it. Does anyone have a clue what it could have been |
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| 03:36 | <hadees> | not sure try the mailing list |
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| 03:56 | <Omnic> | gah. |
| 04:02 | <Omnic> | hadees: well, you're here too... is mythweb known to be busted? (wrt protocol mismatches whilst talking to mythbackend) ? |
| 04:03 | <hadees> | not that i heard of but i don't use mythweb |
| 04:06 | <Omnic> | hrm |
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| 04:06 | <Omnic> | it appears with the protocol checking mdz commited a few days ago I think. (looking at commit logs, and ml archives) |
| 04:07 | <Omnic> | mdz: you around still? or sleeping? |
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| 04:07 | <Uberbot> | Any gentoo users here? |
| 04:07 | <hadees> | yup |
| 04:07 | <hadees> | already build your case? |
| 04:07 | <Uberbot> | I'm trying to emerge mythtv and I get errors with libwww |
| 04:08 | <Uberbot> | Na, I'm just looking at it on my laptop. |
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| 04:08 | <Uberbot> | I've done an emerge sync. |
| 04:08 | <hadees> | i never got libwww errors, check those out in the gentoo forum |
| 04:09 | <Uberbot> | I've been asking. No response. I may have to post to the list. |
| 04:09 | <hadees> | libwww is really out of the realm of this channel |
| 04:09 | <hadees> | Uberbot: post the entire error in the gentoo forums |
| 04:09 | <Uberbot> | Ya, I know. I was just wondering if it was a known issue. |
| 04:09 | <Uberbot> | I will. |
| 04:09 | <hadees> | you will usally get a response in a day |
| 04:09 | <Uberbot> | Yup. |
| 04:09 | <hadees> | i didn't get it and i emerged like a week ago |
| 04:10 | <Omnic> | hadees: yep... commenting out mdz's protocol check fixes it... hrm |
| 04:10 | <Uberbot> | So, I'll be able to run through the menus and watch avi's on the laptop, right? |
| 04:10 | <Uberbot> | The laptop has a dvd.... |
| 04:10 | <hadees> | Uberbot: yeah, well you can watch avis with mythvideo |
| 04:11 | <Uberbot> | Ok, I just want to be able to show the wife what the pvr will be like when we build it. |
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| 04:13 | <hadees> | Uberbot: yeah you can do everthing but record your favorit episode of Golden Girls |
| 04:19 | <Uberbot> | Well, that's a good thing. <grin> |
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| 06:08 | <Slaytanic> | s |
| 06:08 | <Slaytanic> | sry |
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| 06:47 | <Slaytanic> | Excuse me for asking... But apt-get install nvidia-graphics4363-kmdl-`uname -r` gives me "nvidia-graphics4363-kmdl = 1:1.0_4363-45.rhfc1.at is needed by (installed) nvidia-graphics4363-1.0_4363-45.rhfc1.at" and fails - how can I resolve this? |
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| 08:20 | <kslater> | did I miss the solution to the settings.pro change from a couple days back? No sign of my other plugins at this stage.. |
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| 11:05 | <mdz> | Omnic: if you're talking about CVS, someone updated the protocol version and mythweb needs to be updated to match |
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| 11:27 | <rkulagow> | the fact that tivo knows that the janet jackson bare-breast thing during the superbowl was the most replayed moment ever should not make people with tivo's feel good. |
| 11:28 | <bma> | ok, mythtv people, why is mythtv giving me an echo on all audio? |
| 11:28 | <rkulagow> | because you didn't read the howto all the way through? |
| 11:28 | <bma> | cool |
| 11:28 | <bma> | I always wanted to be rtfm'd |
| 11:28 | <rkulagow> | there's a section that deals with that. |
| 11:28 | <Chutt> | poor bma |
| 11:29 | <bma> | Chutt: obviously, I got things working. I had to change the tuner= option to bttv |
| 11:29 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 11:30 | <Chutt> | xawtv help? |
| 11:30 | <Chutt> | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html#ss7.1 |
| 11:30 | <Chutt> | start there for your audio stuff |
| 11:30 | <Chutt> | well, the top of the page may be better |
| 11:31 | <bma> | yea, I used xawtv for debugging |
| 11:31 | <bma> | cool. |
| 11:32 | <bma> | :) |
| 11:39 | <bma> | ok, if I set it up to record and then watch the recording, it has no static |
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| 11:39 | <bma> | i spoke too soon. |
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| 11:43 | <Chutt> | warlord, can you test something? |
| 11:43 | <warlord> | Sure |
| 11:44 | <Chutt> | in the PICTURE_START clause of MpegPreProcessPkt |
| 11:44 | <warlord> | yep -- there now.. |
| 11:44 | <Chutt> | int type = (bufptr[1] >> 3) & 7; |
| 11:44 | <Chutt> | if (type >= 1 && type <= 3) |
| 11:44 | <Chutt> | and wrap the rest of the clause in that if |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | i'd generate a patch, but i'm lazy |
| 11:45 | <warlord> | ok.. |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | it's basically just trying to verify that the header is what it says it is =) |
| 11:45 | <warlord> | Ok. |
| 11:46 | <warlord> | I presume the "break" should be outside the if? |
| 11:46 | <Chutt> | cleared up the increasing framesRead here, at least |
| 11:46 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 11:46 | <warlord> | ok.. let me test it. |
| 11:48 | <warlord> | looks good so far... |
| 11:48 | <warlord> | let me let it run for a while and then test it. |
| 11:48 | <Chutt> | allright |
| 11:49 | <Chutt> | i ran it through a bunch of recorded programs (with a separate parser program i put together) and it looked good to me |
| 11:49 | <Chutt> | constant sized gops, at least |
| 11:49 | <warlord> | Ok. I'm running it on livetv right now. |
| 11:49 | <warlord> | (which should be constant-size gops) |
| 11:49 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 11:49 | <warlord> | it definitely seems to be keeping up pretty close.. |
| 11:49 | <Chutt> | like 50 or so off? |
| 11:50 | <Chutt> | well, it'd depend on your bitrate |
| 11:50 | <warlord> | Yea... |
| 11:51 | <warlord> | I'm seeing (currently) 47-51 difference between framesRead and framesPlayed.. |
| 11:52 | <warlord> | Which is about 1.5 seconds of buffering. |
| 11:54 | <warlord> | But yea, it looks to be keeping up perfectly now. :) |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | great |
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| 11:59 | <warlord> | Ok, it's now up to 54 frames apart. :) |
| 11:59 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:59 | <Chutt> | oh no |
| 11:59 | <Chutt> | it's going to break horribly again |
| 12:00 | <Chutt> | so does it fix the seeking problems? |
| 12:00 | <warlord> | Yes |
| 12:00 | <warlord> | how is it going to break horribly? |
| 12:00 | <Chutt> | i was just being sarcastic :p |
| 12:00 | <warlord> | :-P |
| 12:01 | <warlord> | now if only we could fix the livetv+epg hang............... |
| 12:01 | <Chutt> | that's tmk's thing |
| 12:01 | <warlord> | yea, I know. |
| 12:01 | <Chutt> | since it seems to be related to globalalpha mode |
| 12:02 | <warlord> | it is. |
| 12:02 | <Chutt> | it might be worthwhile to mess with the fbdev driver and make it fill in 255 for the alpha part of the pixel instead of 0 |
| 12:02 | <warlord> | it appears to be a problem where it turns off some interrupts but then never turns them back on again. |
| 12:02 | <Chutt> | and then just use localalpha |
| 12:03 | * | warlord isn't sure what's involved in that. |
| 12:04 | <Chutt> | neither am i =) |
| 12:05 | <warlord> | Once I finish up this contract (in a couple days) I'll go comb the code for interrupt masks and see if I can find something. |
| 12:05 | <warlord> | (and thanks for fixing this one :) |
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| 12:23 | <bma> | hey Chutt: when I do 'info' it's chopping hte 'm' in PM off. FAQ? |
| 12:34 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: around? |
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| 12:39 | <slestak> | is it possible to use mythtv minus video capture card, just as a lan media server for existing files? |
| 12:40 | <slestak> | the dosumentation looks like it says that at least one capture card is required |
| 12:40 | <slestak> | s/dos/doc |
| 12:40 | <mikegrb> | topic might help |
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| 12:41 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: hey. |
| 12:41 | <Chutt> | hi |
| 12:41 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: couple of screenshots for you: https://pooh.tam.uiuc.edu/sshot1.png https://pooh.tam.uiuc.edu/sshot2.png |
| 12:41 | <Chutt> | what's up? |
| 12:41 | <slestak> | sorry mikegrb , is there a user support channel on freenode? |
| 12:42 | <pahli_bar> | work in progress. just wanted to check with you first. |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | heh, cool |
| 12:42 | <mikegrb> | -users but yes you can use it without capture card |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | i was thinking, have the bottom be an info section |
| 12:42 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: its a scrollview. slides to left and right. |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | looks nice |
| 12:42 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: yup. detailed info on current selection |
| 12:42 | <slestak> | thx, I'll head there for anything else |
| 12:43 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:43 | <bma> | Chutt: the static is gone, but alsa is being a pain and wont'let me mute thecapture device |
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| 12:43 | <Chutt> | bma, ah |
| 12:43 | <bma> | so there's a very low-volume echo |
| 12:43 | <pahli_bar> | ipod/nextstep inspired treeview. |
| 12:43 | <Chutt> | how'd you get rid of the static? |
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| 12:43 | <bma> | dunno |
| 12:43 | <bma> | rebooted |
| 12:43 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, yeah, i think that'll work |
| 12:43 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: cool. |
| 12:44 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: i will try and wrap it up by this weekend. |
| 12:44 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: i disabled the scrollbars. maybe a ui theme can show scroll images |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | probably should have arrows somewhere |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | doesn't matter who draws em, though |
| 12:46 | <bma> | Chutt: is there an option to pick up where you left off watchign a recording? |
| 12:46 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: default arrows overridable? |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | bma, yeah, turn on the automatic position saving |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | or just hit space/enter before leaving watching a recording |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, sure |
| 12:46 | <Spida> | re |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | how's it do the scrolling? |
| 12:47 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: its a scrollview. setContentsPos |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | so it scrolls over? |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | nice |
| 12:47 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: the internal container is bigger than screensize |
| 12:47 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: yes |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | ah, makes sense |
| 12:48 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: fortunately the uitypes don't have screenspace limitations. so you can place them anywhere |
| 12:48 | <killerbun> | anyone knows if its possible to play radio in mythmusic ? |
| 12:48 | <Chutt> | are you using a qt scrollview, or something you wrote? |
| 12:48 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: qt scrollview |
| 12:49 | <Chutt> | allright |
| 12:49 | <Chutt> | that's all my questions =) |
| 12:49 | <Chutt> | great job |
| 12:49 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: i need to make it simpler for developers to use |
| 12:49 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: heh. thanks |
| 12:50 | <Spida> | killerbun: like, real, live radio, over the air? or more like internet-stream? |
| 12:50 | <killerbun> | internet streams. |
| 12:51 | <killerbun> | or/and live radio (windows media streams or winamp choutcast streams) |
| 12:51 | <warlord> | Chutt: FWIW, the difference is still _SLOWLY_ increasing, by about 1 frame every 10 minutes. I think that's acceptable. (after 30 minutes it was a difference of 56) |
| 12:51 | <Spida> | killerbun: hmmm, I would be intzerested in that, too, but I have no clue |
| 12:52 | <killerbun> | cant the decoder plug run thouse files ? |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | warlord, yeah, it's still not parsing right |
| 12:53 | <Chutt> | but this was a quick fix for the majority case |
| 12:54 | <bma> | hmmmm |
| 12:56 | <Spida> | what kernel should I use on gentoo with a pvr350 and a matrox g550? |
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| 12:58 | <warlord> | Chutt: yea.. I can definitely live with a 1/30 sec per 10minute drift. Sure, it means if I watch 8 hours of livetv i'll get 1.5 seconds of drift.... ;) |
| 12:59 | <warlord> | I dont think anyone will actually notice that. :) |
| 12:59 | <killerbun> | anyone knows anything about streaming and mythmusic ? |
| 13:00 | <killerbun> | read in the forum that somebody started on mythradio, but i dont think he finished it |
| 13:00 | <steelep> | I know I got it working in Xine but not mythmusic :) |
| 13:00 | <killerbun> | kinda pointless in xine.. |
| 13:01 | <steelep> | nah, I use xine for mythvideo |
| 13:01 | <steelep> | so I just stuck my internetradio streams in the video folder |
| 13:01 | <Captain_Murdoch> | RE: rkugalow's comment about Tivo and Janet Jackon. Now we'll start getting flooded with requests for MythShare so everyone can share out their superbowl recordings to Myth users who forgot to record it or watched tit in LiveTV. |
| 13:01 | <killerbun> | but kinda wierd to have radio in the video module |
| 13:01 | <steelep> | it uses goom, so not really |
| 13:02 | <steelep> | and there are video streams there too |
| 13:02 | <steelep> | at least until mythradio is ready for primetime it a decent solution |
| 13:03 | <steelep> | just make .pls files use a xine command line if you use mplayer for video |
| 13:04 | <killerbun> | but doesnt the decoder for mythmusic support streams ? |
| 13:04 | <steelep> | that that I could make work |
| 13:04 | <steelep> | but i'm an idiot sometimes :) |
| 13:05 | <lmatter> | steelep, I'm new to this internet radio stuff. Can xine play a shoutcast stream? |
| 13:05 | <steelep> | yes |
| 13:05 | <steelep> | that's what I'm talking about |
| 13:06 | <killerbun> | suåpose that you make a playlist with 1 stream ? |
| 13:06 | <lmatter> | steelep, cool. Any special plugins required? |
| 13:06 | <killerbun> | would mythmusic play it ? |
| 13:06 | <killerbun> | if it plays winamp playlists |
| 13:06 | <steelep> | try it killerbun, it did not work for me |
| 13:06 | <steelep> | but I may have had the pls formated wrong |
| 13:06 | <Chutt> | it doesn't. |
| 13:07 | <Chutt> | so don't even bother trying |
| 13:07 | <steelep> | thx chutt, so my solution is not so crazy after all |
| 13:07 | <steelep> | for example... |
| 13:07 | <steelep> | save this to disk with wget. |
| 13:08 | <steelep> | http://www.somafm.com/groovesalad.pls |
| 13:08 | <steelep> | it opens fine with xine |
| 13:08 | <steelep> | but if you make a playlist that has that url in it, it doesn't work |
| 13:09 | <killerbun> | hmm |
| 13:09 | <killerbun> | what about m3u format ? |
| 13:10 | <steelep> | shold be the same |
| 13:11 | <killerbun> | going to try it |
| 13:12 | <steelep> | if you don't use pls for anything else it my be a good idea to distinguish it as straming playlists.... made sense to me |
| 13:13 | <steelep> | if you don't like xine it should work for xmms or mplayer too |
| 13:13 | <steelep> | xmms looked crappy to me in the myth ui |
| 13:15 | <steelep> | if you are trying to play windows media streams... don't forget to put the codec in /usr/lib/win32 |
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| 13:17 | <killerbun> | hmmm. |
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| 13:18 | <killerbun> | where does mythmusic put its database ? |
| 13:18 | <killerbun> | mysql ? |
| 13:18 | <pahli_bar> | killerbun: read the topic. |
| 13:19 | <steelep> | hehe |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | patch applying is boring |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | i should just stop testing stuff |
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| 13:24 | <o_cee> | Chutt: you want me to make new screenshots for the homepage? |
| 13:24 | <o_cee> | for the themes section |
| 13:25 | <Chutt> | lemme do that, so they can match the existing ones |
| 13:25 | <Chutt> | i've just been busy |
| 13:25 | <o_cee> | okay |
| 13:25 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 13:27 | <AridWrk> | can mythweather be installed and setup via ssh or do I need to go use the frontend? |
| 13:27 | <o_cee> | installed yes, setup no |
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| 13:44 | <o_cee> | Chutt: i got myth livetv into a prepuffering pause mayhem today as well.. got no idea what triggers it more than a channel change.. skipping around and back a while made the stuttering go away for a while, then they came back... very odd indeed, nothing strange in dmesg or backend log.. |
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| 14:09 | <Omnic> | mdz: as I imagined... was this after 0.14 was released, OOC? |
| 14:10 | <mdz> | Omnic: what was? |
| 14:11 | <Omnic> | mythweb protocol thing |
| 14:11 | <mdz> | yes |
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| 14:19 | <racer> | pahli? |
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| 14:30 | <pahli_bar> | racer: yes |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, you here? |
| 14:49 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah |
| 14:51 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt: you here? :) |
| 14:52 | <pahli_bar> | you guys playing cat and mouse :) |
| 14:52 | * | Captain_Murdoch wonders if anyone wrote a dvdlabelgen like cdlabelgen that will make DVD case inserts so he can reuse these plastic cases that AOL insists on sending. |
| 14:52 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:52 | <Captain_Murdoch> | pahli_bar: figured I'd respond the same way. :) |
| 14:52 | <Chutt> | i was just wanting to tell you that i'm applying andrew bishop's patch to videooutbase.cpp |
| 14:52 | <Chutt> | don't know if that conflicts with the stuff you were doing |
| 14:53 | <Captain_Murdoch> | how recent was that on the list? |
| 14:53 | <Chutt> | from the 1st |
| 14:54 | <Captain_Murdoch> | that the over/underscan stuff? shouldn't conflict at all from looking at it. |
| 14:54 | <Chutt> | ok, good |
| 14:55 | <o_cee> | great, now afterwards when i removed the blue background from gant people starts whining.. ah well |
| 14:56 | <Chutt> | o_cee, i would've removed it anyway for size reasons |
| 14:56 | <warlord> | Chutt: FWIW, my box stopped being able to REW after the ringbuffer wrapped. I suspect it's one of my changes, so I'm testing something else. is there a simple way to resize the ringbuffer smaller for testing from the frontend? or do I need to run the setup program? |
| 14:56 | <thor_> | pahli_bar, the scrolling thing looks nice |
| 14:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'll merge my stuff in if it does. I'm hoping to commit tonight. have the commfree patch and recdups patch from the list as well as my recording groups playbackbox display patch and even added a simple zoom mode where you can zoom in and reposition the video on the screen. need to get the osd position fixed somehow. I noticed that when in the current letterbox modes and in my zoom the osd can go offscreen. |
| 14:57 | <o_cee> | Chutt: yeah.. and having two different colors for the background would be hard to maintain. |
| 14:57 | <pahli_bar> | thor_: hey. thanks |
| 14:57 | <o_cee> | pahli_bar: what scrolling thing? |
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| 14:57 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, cool, that's other stuff from my to-merge list |
| 14:57 | <Chutt> | less work for me =) |
| 14:57 | <pahli_bar> | thor_: as soon i get rid of your listview... i can rest in peace :) |
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| 14:58 | <o_cee> | Captain_Murdoch: zoom? cool, i've got that on my dvd, actually missed it in myth the other day.. |
| 14:58 | <Captain_Murdoch> | also the alternate scene change detection patch which I'm going to clean up some before committing. that's what's holding me up right now. I want to commit this then commit that patch right after. |
| 14:58 | <Chutt> | great |
| 14:58 | <thor_> | heh .... I struggled for weeks to make one list view let you edir playlists, move them around, change order, and have playlists within playlists :-) |
| 14:59 | <Chutt> | oh yeah, that's true |
| 14:59 | <Captain_Murdoch> | o_cee, yeah. zoom up to 200%, zoom out 50%, then you can move the video around the screen while it's playing. either leave it zoomed or ESC back out and return to normal. |
| 14:59 | <Chutt> | the replacement selector needs to handle playlists |
| 14:59 | <Captain_Murdoch> | o_cee, you use XV for display? |
| 14:59 | <pahli_bar> | thor_: sorry. heh |
| 14:59 | <thor_> | its still ugly :-) |
| 14:59 | <o_cee> | Captain_Murdoch: very cool.. and yes |
| 15:00 | <bma> | hmm |
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| 15:00 | <o_cee> | Captain_Murdoch: any news on logo detection yet? |
| 15:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | that's the only thing it's tested working with. I know it doesn't work on NO_XV mode. |
| 15:00 | <bma> | Chutt: I just had a popup ask me what I wanted to do with a show that was going to be recorded, and i said 'record and watch while recording' ... when it went to swithc channels mythtv exited |
| 15:00 | <o_cee> | Captain_Murdoch: okay.. planning on using the 350 tvout later on, but i'm using a regular graphics card at the moment |
| 15:00 | <Chutt> | bma, were you running mythtv, or mythfrontend? |
| 15:00 | <bma> | mythtv |
| 15:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | haven't messed with it in a while. somebody was looking at my code a few weeks back, I emailed him a patch but haven't heard back. I haven't had much incentive to work on comm detection because it works for 90% of the shows I watch. :( |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | don't :p |
| 15:01 | <bma> | heh |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | it's just a light weight player app, it doesn't have a bunch of logic that mythfrontend has |
| 15:01 | <o_cee> | Captain_Murdoch: hehe :) okay.. as i've never used the comm stuff, i don't know what i'm missing out, hehe |
| 15:01 | <bma> | Chutt: ah |
| 15:01 | <Captain_Murdoch> | anybody know if the current letterbox modes work on the pvr-350? if so the zoom stuff should because it uses the same stuff. just offsets the starting position and the video size. |
| 15:02 | <Chutt> | the 'record and watch while recording' selection exits live-tv, then starts it back up again in playback-only mode, then switches back to live-tv after the recording's over |
| 15:02 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, nope, they don't |
| 15:02 | <bma> | Chutt: TiVo lets me go to what's recording directly when I click on watch live tv, why can't mythtv? *ducks* |
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| 15:03 | <Chutt> | because i made it so you can't |
| 15:03 | <Chutt> | and i'm mean |
| 15:03 | <bma> | heh |
| 15:03 | <bma> | well, I knew that |
| 15:03 | <Captain_Murdoch> | and won't accept any patches to do so... |
| 15:03 | <Captain_Murdoch> | :) |
| 15:03 | <o_cee> | that error message should print what's recording i think.. have to fix that someday |
| 15:03 | <warlord> | you're only mean sometimes, chutt ;) |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:04 | <o_cee> | was that last commit to fix your problems warlord? |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | only when i feel people are wasting my time |
| 15:04 | <pahli_bar> | i would take this level of meaness anyday :) |
| 15:04 | <warlord> | *nods* |
| 15:04 | <warlord> | did you see my question a couple pages up? |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | oh, no |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | you have to run setup |
| 15:04 | <bma> | Chutt: on the whole, I like it. :) i wish there was a way to toggle fullscreen mode on the fly though |
| 15:04 | <warlord> | Chutt: FWIW, my box stopped being able to REW after the ringbuffer wrapped. I suspect it's one of my changes, so I'm testing something else. is there a simple way to resize the ringbuffer smaller for testing from the frontend? or do I need to run the setup program? |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | or just edit tv_rec |
| 15:04 | <bma> | instead of having to go through the prefs |
| 15:05 | <warlord> | Ok. |
| 15:05 | <warlord> | That's what I thought... |
| 15:05 | <Chutt> | (i'm currently running with a 100MB buffer) |
| 15:05 | <Chutt> | myself, since i'm trying to fix sfr's bug |
| 15:05 | <Chutt> | well, not just his, but.. |
| 15:05 | <o_cee> | the prebuffering stuff? |
| 15:05 | <Chutt> | no, the mythbackend taking abnormally large amounts of cpu after a while, or after channel change |
| 15:05 | <warlord> | o_cee: yes, that last commit fixes some of my problem.. Trying to see if there is another problem too (or whether I introduced it myself) |
| 15:06 | <o_cee> | Chutt: ah dammit, forgot to run top when i had it in that mode before today.. i managed to get normal playback for a whle after jumping around |
| 15:06 | <o_cee> | (in the file that is) |
| 15:06 | <o_cee> | not on the floor :) |
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| 15:11 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, oh, about the commfree patch -- i just committed some stuff that did some database updates, so that'll probably conflict |
| 15:11 | <Chutt> | and can you de-tabify his code? =) |
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| 15:14 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt: yeah, I always try to detabify. :) I'll make sure the db changes work. I usually try to keep my tree up to date with cvs then after everything works and I'm ready to commit I make a diff then apply that to a pristine cvs tree that I keep and commit off that . |
| 15:15 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 15:15 | <Chutt> | ok, cool |
| 15:15 | <Chutt> | just didn't want to cause you problems |
| 15:15 | <Captain_Murdoch> | thanks for the heads up. |
| 15:21 | <warlord> | Chutt: I added a bit more debugging and it looks like the gap between played/read is more like a wave.. it seems to fluctuate between about 30-60. (Once you skip-back you can't get as close to real-time as you would be if you hadn't skipped-back) |
| 15:22 | <warlord> | So I'm not 100% convinced it's actually growing -- would have to plot it and see. |
| 15:23 | <Chutt> | might just be due to small differences in bitrate |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | think i may have fixed the high-cpu bug |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | though i'm not completely certain yet |
| 15:25 | <racer> | pahli? |
| 15:26 | <Chutt> | libavformat's seek index stuff wasn't liking the continual streaming of new data |
| 15:26 | <pahli_bar> | racer: yes? |
| 15:26 | <racer> | saw my screenshots? |
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| 15:26 | <pahli_bar> | racer: oh. that was you. |
| 15:26 | <racer> | heh :) |
| 15:26 | <racer> | like it? |
| 15:27 | <racer> | maybe an idea for you! |
| 15:27 | <pahli_bar> | racer: yes. searching will have to wait till i get this current setup working. |
| 15:27 | <pahli_bar> | racer: shouldn't be difficult to add |
| 15:28 | <racer> | browsing by album is also nice! Let say it looks nice! |
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| 15:30 | <racer> | pahli: forgot to sent you one, interested/ |
| 15:30 | <racer> | ? |
| 15:30 | <pahli_bar> | racer: sure |
| 15:31 | <racer> | on its way |
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| 15:34 | <McQuaid> | hello all |
| 15:35 | <McQuaid> | since i upgraded to .14 i can't launch mythfrontend anymore, getting the error: access denied for user: mythtv@localhost using pass NO |
| 15:35 | <McQuaid> | i've since added myself to the mythtv group but didn't help. although I never previously had myself on the mythtv group and was able to launch it fine |
| 15:38 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | sounds like a MySQL error |
| 15:38 | <killerbun> | it is. |
| 15:39 | <killerbun> | it doesnt reconize the password/user for the mysql database |
| 15:39 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | did you install from CVS or packages? |
| 15:40 | <warlord> | Chutt: there's still something else going on now.. I can't rewind after the ringbuffer fills. |
| 15:40 | <hadees> | can you missmatch versions with a frontend and a backend? i want to run the current .14 frontend on a mythtv cvs backend |
| 15:41 | <warlord> | let me make sure it's not one of my changes... |
| 15:41 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | McQuaid, check out http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html |
| 15:41 | <pahli_bar> | racer: got it. good ideas overall. |
| 15:43 | <kvandivo> | hadees: that is destined to fail. if not today, tomorrow. |
| 15:44 | <hadees> | yeah i know... i want to use my laptop as a frontend also |
| 15:44 | <hadees> | i guess i'll go with cvs also just a pain to keep the ebuilds up to date |
| 15:45 | <McQuaid> | yeah i tried that stuff and still can't seem to access it |
| 15:46 | <McQuaid> | i tried the grant all on mythconverg... i tried it as is and also tried it with identified by "mcquaid"; |
| 15:46 | <warlord> | Chutt: yea, it was definitely one of my changes.. |
| 15:47 | <Chutt> | great, not my fault =) |
| 15:48 | <McQuaid> | oh and missed your question earlier, i installed from apt-get not cvs but just from the sid depositiory |
| 15:49 | <McQuaid> | and apt-get spit out the access denied while upgrading as well, i'd prefer if it would upgrade cleanly, if there is somewhere to avoid this for future upgrades |
| 15:49 | <Chutt> | you gave it a bad password or whatnot. |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | when setting up mythtv to talk to the database. |
| 15:50 | <McQuaid> | well i can get into mysql when i pass the -p option and input my password |
| 15:51 | <McQuaid> | i don't get where the password comes into play when actually launching mythfrontend |
| 15:51 | <McQuaid> | i was having this same problem when i first installed myth, and i just commented out the pass in the mysql.txt file and then it just worked for any user |
| 15:53 | <Chutt> | so basically, you broke it. |
| 15:53 | <Chutt> | fix the details in mysql.txt |
| 15:53 | <Chutt> | and it will work. |
| 15:54 | <McQuaid> | well what just uncomment the pass? that did nothing for me |
| 15:54 | <warlord> | nope, not your fault. :) |
| 15:55 | <warlord> | now to figure out what *I* did... |
| 15:55 | <Chutt> | no, give it the correct password. |
| 15:55 | <Chutt> | since it's telling you that the password you're using (ie, empty) is wrong |
| 15:55 | <Chutt> | i thought that would be pretty obvious |
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| 15:58 | <bma> | Chutt: hey, do I need to do anything beyond hitting space/enter in a recording for it to go tot he position automatically from watch recordings? |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 15:58 | <bma> | well, in that case it's not workin' |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | should say 'position saved' |
| 15:58 | <bma> | it does. |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | has to be a finished recording, as well |
| 15:58 | <bma> | oh |
| 15:59 | <bma> | that could be it. |
| 15:59 | <McQuaid> | i changed the pass that works when i login to mysql but same thing |
| 15:59 | <bma> | does it write the bookmark to the file, or the db? |
| 15:59 | <McQuaid> | well same error but using pass: YES |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | mcquiad, you didn't use the right password, obviously. |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | for that particular username. |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | bma, db |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | bma, but for analog recordings, it wants the entire file recorded before it'll do that |
| 16:00 | <bma> | seems silly |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | i don't really touch the analog recording stuff |
| 16:01 | <McQuaid> | hmm, ok where does mysql stores passes so i can see what exactly is going on |
| 16:01 | <Chutt> | it needs updated to a newer framework that's in place for the mpegrecorder stuff |
| 16:01 | <pahli_bar> | hmm... looks like the scrollview would have to be made a themeddialog |
| 16:01 | <Chutt> | mcquaid, see the topic? |
| 16:01 | <Rule> | Is there currently a commercial cut (qs in, cut from mpeg file, not just mark) functionality in mythtv ? I've read some stuff on the ml about mpeg2>mpeg2 etc, not sure if any 'chop' function is present.. |
| 16:01 | <McQuaid> | ok i'll stop asking |
| 16:02 | <Rule> | s/qs/as |
| 16:02 | <bma> | Chutt: what's the alternative to analog, dvb? |
| 16:02 | <Chutt> | the pvr-x50 cards |
| 16:02 | <McQuaid> | but i've been searching for awhile and still haven't figured it out, there really needs to be a good mysql troubleshooting article concerning mythtv |
| 16:02 | <Chutt> | mcquaid, no, there doesn't |
| 16:02 | <McQuaid> | whenever i figure this stuff out i'd gladly write one |
| 16:02 | <Chutt> | you just need to not fuck with it, and it will do the right thing |
| 16:02 | <pahli_bar> | McQuaid: do we hear you volunteering... |
| 16:02 | <Chutt> | you fucked with it, so it broke |
| 16:03 | <McQuaid> | all i put it was one # symbol and have removed it |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | that's wonderful |
| 16:04 | <McQuaid> | and as i said everything was working fine until upgrading then the problems started |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | because the upgrade assumed you hadn't fucked with things. |
| 16:04 | <McQuaid> | but as i said i get the hint, i'll stop inquiring here about problems |
| 16:05 | <thor_> | how can I possibly have 102 unread -user messages ? |
| 16:05 | <Chutt> | thor, you didn't check your mail for a day :p |
| 16:05 | <thor_> | 12 hours |
| 16:05 | <thor_> | unbefrigginleavable |
| 16:05 | = | taco [thomppj@server.chem.okstate.edu] quit (Remote closed the connection) |
| 16:06 | <Spida> | thor_: just 102? slow ML... try lkml, gentoo-users, postfix-users, or even php-users |
| 16:07 | <thor_> | sure, but how many people develop code for php or "gentoo" ? |
| 16:10 | <Spida> | thor_: #gentoo has 864 people in it. don't know how many devs exist |
| 16:10 | + | taco [~eggdrop@server.chem.okstate.edu] joined #mythtv |
| 16:11 | <Chutt> | let's compare more apples and oranges |
| 16:11 | <Chutt> | shall we? |
| 16:11 | <Spida> | ok. |
| 16:12 | <Spida> | I have some apples here *g* |
| 16:12 | <Spida> | my apples do 300-400 mails per day |
| 16:12 | <Spida> | ok |
| 16:12 | <Spida> | I'll stop |
| 16:15 | <pahli_bar> | how much overscan to assume with 800x600. ive been using 20 till now. |
| 16:15 | <Chutt> | for the edges? |
| 16:15 | <pahli_bar> | yes |
| 16:16 | <Chutt> | that's a little low, but probably should be just fine |
| 16:16 | <pahli_bar> | ok |
| 16:16 | <pahli_bar> | heh. haven't heard anyone complaining, so should be ok |
| 16:16 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 16:19 | <kvandivo> | what would be better? 30, 40? |
| 16:19 | <Chutt> | 5% |
| 16:19 | <FryGuy> | is it possible to use lirc without a remote? |
| 16:20 | <kvandivo> | wow... 30 AND 40.. I'm good. :) |
| 16:20 | * | pahli_bar is in awe at kvandivo's abilities |
| 16:22 | <kvandivo> | at any rate, i'll make sure that the ranking stuff conforms to that.. |
| 16:23 | <pahli_bar> | 40 on each side. wow you are left only with 720x520 to play with |
| 16:23 | <Chutt> | yeah, so keep it to 20 |
| 16:24 | <pahli_bar> | will do |
| 16:25 | = | Rule [~Rule@D5777337.kabel.telenet.be] quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 16:25 | <pahli_bar> | wonder why valgrind always segfaults on exiting mythfrontend |
| 16:26 | <Chutt> | makes leak detection a tad difficult =) |
| 16:26 | <pahli_bar> | it prints all the leak info stuff before crapping out. |
| 16:26 | <Chutt> | it does? hm |
| 16:27 | <Chutt> | dies here before that |
| 16:27 | <Spida> | is it possible to change the language of mythfrontend/ the modules? |
| 16:27 | <pahli_bar> | let me check |
| 16:27 | <Chutt> | spida, appearance settings. |
| 16:27 | <hadees> | FryGuy: what would you use with lirc instead of a remote? |
| 16:27 | <Spida> | hadees: network |
| 16:27 | <pahli_bar> | yeah, it dumps the leak info before dying |
| 16:28 | <pahli_bar> | atleast here |
| 16:28 | <hadees> | Spida: you mean controll myth through a network, you can't do it yet but you will be able to |
| 16:28 | <hadees> | i think with mfd (i think thats the name of it) |
| 16:28 | <pahli_bar> | heh. should run valgrind within valgrind to see whats happening |
| 16:29 | <Spida> | hadees: just an idea, send remote commands via network to control myth... |
| 16:30 | <Spida> | hadees: don't know if that makes sense, though |
| 16:30 | <pahli_bar> | Spida: you don't use lirc for that. |
| 16:30 | <hadees> | yeah you wouldn't need lirc |
| 16:30 | <pahli_bar> | Spida: see what L.I.R.C. means |
| 16:31 | <hadees> | you would need a program like netremote.org or somthing else written just for mythtv |
| 16:31 | <Spida> | Chutt: I changed the language there, and the new language is displayed there, but everything is still english |
| 16:31 | <FryGuy> | yes that's what I want to do |
| 16:31 | <FryGuy> | my keyboard is in the closet |
| 16:31 | <FryGuy> | and it's difficult to get to |
| 16:31 | <FryGuy> | but the tv is visible from my other computer |
| 16:31 | <hadees> | FryGuy: well a remote would let you control it even if your keyboard is in the closet |
| 16:31 | <pahli_bar> | FryGuy: again lirc is not the solution here. |
| 16:31 | <FryGuy> | i don't have another serial port free |
| 16:31 | <Spida> | pahli_bar: why? lircd manpage lists |
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