| --- | Log | opened Sat Jan 31 00:00:01 2004 |
| --- | Day | changed Sat Jan 31 2004 |
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| 00:08 | <Chutt> | niqo, since you've not done any debugging on that issue, and i can't reproduce it, it's up to you to fix it. |
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| 00:18 | <Deadkitty> | What good mythtv forums are there? |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | the mailing lists. |
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| 00:28 | <Deadkitty> | www.gossamer-threads.org? |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | those are the mailing list archives. |
| 00:36 | <bline> | wow, i didnt know we owned .org |
| 00:47 | <Deadkitty> | It's probably just a 30 year lease |
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| 00:55 | <[alpha]> | Anyone got mythtv to work with a DVB card? [looking to purchase hardware] |
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| 01:05 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, about the "deleting a recording while it's being commflagged" question from rkugalow... I thought I had it checking to see if the recording still existed before writing the positionmap out but I can't find any code that does that check. I put it high up on my TODO list to do something about this and also to try to signal the commflagging thread to stop when it's show is deleted. |
| 01:06 | <thor_> | Chutt, I have looked over the AlbumArt stuff ... actually seems to work fine ... I have a small patch that will draw a "?" instead of a completely black pixmap if nothing is found .... not sure if I should commit that or not? |
| 01:07 | <Chutt> | thor, that's fine to commit |
| 01:07 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, cool =) |
| 01:07 | <thor_> | helps to know you're not just running Blank I guess ... not sure if it's really useful |
| 01:08 | <Captain_Murdoch> | what would you guys think of a popup menu that would let you zoom the video as well as changing position onscreen? I keep getting annoyed by stations that decide that school closings are more important than me being able to watch CSI fullscreen. :) |
| 01:08 | <thor_> | sounds like a "zoom out the ticker" filter |
| 01:09 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, sometimes it's just the bottom and sometimes it's like they keep the aspect ratio correct and there's a bar on the left and bottom. |
| 01:09 | <thor_> | bit fiddly to get it to work right |
| 01:09 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'm thinking more manual to begin with. I've seen DVD players that do things like that. |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 01:13 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I have "recording groups" working as well. Can put all my shows into one group, wife's into another, stuff we both watch into a third, etc.. On the playbackbox screen you can view a single group or all. Group can have a password as well. |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | what _i_ want is a generic osd menu |
| 01:13 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, I was thinking about that, just haven't thought of a way to do it. :) |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar's uilistbtntype |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | or whatever it is |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | would work nicely as a OSD type as well |
| 01:14 | <thor_> | heh, you read my mind |
| 01:15 | <thor_> | need a nice way for you to be able to make quick menu choices (especially what's playing on other boxes) without neccesarily killing the current video as the mfd goes forward |
| 01:15 | <Captain_Murdoch> | don't know if I know what that looks like. need something, using NewDialogBox doesn't look too good sometimes. |
| 01:16 | <Captain_Murdoch> | and a "Start" button of course ;) |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/mythnews2.png |
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| 01:17 | <Uberbot> | Hi. |
| 01:17 | <Uberbot> | Can someone recommend somewhere to buy a nice htpc chassis? |
| 01:17 | <thor_> | if we could do that in (and out of ) OSD .... it would be great for things like "DVD inserted->1 RIP it, 2 Play it, 3 Go Away |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | thor, naw, regular popup box outside of tv viewing |
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| 01:18 | <Sobek_> | can someone help me figure out a sound issue> |
| 01:18 | <thor_> | (user configurable) it would be _really_ nice to not matter if video was playing or not |
| 01:18 | <Sobek_> | I have a worbleish sound while watching live tv. |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | well, yeah, but we can popup something different outside |
| 01:19 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I remember seeing that now. that could work well. might be nice to have popup menus elsewhere. if they had the same api.... |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | just need a message object that can know the difference |
| 01:19 | <thor_> | yup ... exactly |
| 01:19 | <Sobek_> | I am using alsa on fedora and there is a really anoying issue with the sound |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | sobek, ask on the users mailing list/ |
| 01:20 | <Sobek_> | Why not in the users irc room>? :-) |
| 01:20 | <Chutt> | because this isn't a users help channel? |
| 01:20 | <Captain_Murdoch> | sure, goto #mythtv-users and ask there. ;) |
| 01:20 | <mikegrb> | Captain_Murdoch: indeed |
| 01:20 | <Sobek_> | What is the purpose of this channel? |
| 01:20 | <Chutt> | and i'm _trying_ to have a little dev discussion, which you're rudely interrupting |
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| 01:21 | <Chutt> | anyway |
| 01:21 | <Chutt> | there's a difference between a popup like that dvd thing and a multi-tiered menu |
| 01:22 | <thor_> | yup |
| 01:22 | <Chutt> | something like the existing osd dialog class would work for that |
| 01:22 | <Chutt> | just needs an interface that can decide between that and a mythpopup |
| 01:23 | <Chutt> | event listener, or just a function in the context? |
| 01:23 | <thor_> | I dunno ... I just keep thinking about how to have a really brain dead client to talk to the mfd |
| 01:23 | <Chutt> | event listener, then |
| 01:24 | <thor_> | and trying to keep remote keypresses down to a tiny set |
| 01:24 | <Chutt> | get a message over the socket |
| 01:24 | <Chutt> | pass it along to whoever's on top (ie, video display, or a mythdialog-subclass) |
| 01:25 | <thor_> | I guess ... I've been going in circles on it ... won't really know what I mean till I start actually trying to write it/adapt it |
| 01:25 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:26 | <Chutt> | hate having to clean up patches |
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| 01:26 | <Chutt> | and waiting for globalsettings to compile |
| 01:26 | <thor_> | heh |
| 01:26 | <thor_> | bloated library, should be all plugins |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, your instant record thingie is in, you know. just disabled |
| 01:27 | <Captain_Murdoch> | that seems to compile so much faster on my work laptop with 1G of ram. |
| 01:27 | <hadees> | does anyone know if having alot of coax cable together can cause interference with the signal going into the computer |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | since no one was fixing the problems |
| 01:27 | <Captain_Murdoch> | chutt, yeah, that's why I said rework or whatever word I used. :) I did look into that at one point. |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | oh yeah |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | i misread your first sentence |
| 01:29 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I think I looked at that once and thought it might be overcomplicating things but don't remember. not a high priority, but on my list. |
| 01:29 | <Chutt> | it was overcomplicating things |
| 01:30 | <thor_> | bah, AlbumArt never comes up if you're in Random mode |
| 01:30 | <thor_> | oh well ... if I go in there and mess with it, I'll probably screw something up |
| 01:30 | <Chutt> | this 'warn on channel change' patch is the last non-bugfix/doc thing i'm committing |
| 01:30 | <Captain_Murdoch> | that's what I thought. and that's why I was thinking rewrite if necessary. |
| 01:33 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I demoed myth to somebody at work the other day tunneling 6543 and mysql through ssh to my server at home over the cablemodem. even played video. because of buffering it would pause 5 seconds, play 1/2 second of video then pause again, etc.. :) they were impressed though. |
| 01:43 | <Chutt> | damnit |
| 01:43 | <Chutt> | this patch doesn't work at all |
| 01:43 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, do you mind an undocumented (ie, not even in mythbackend's help) commandline argument called --nosched. it disables the scheduler. it will crash if anything tries to use the scheduler but makes development easier because I can work on a copy of my real database but don't have to worry about it trying to fire off recordings. |
| 01:43 | <thor_> | heh .... there seem to be a lot pf patches recently that fix 2/3rds of a problem |
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| 01:45 | <Chutt> | sure, that's fine |
| 01:46 | <Chutt> | and i noticed a typo in the help text for the new option |
| 01:46 | <Chutt> | so i get to recompile globalsettings _again_ |
| 01:46 | <Chutt> | yippee |
| 01:46 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ok. figured I'd check first. |
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| 01:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I have a cron job that runs nightly that copies my real database to my dev database and then links all recordings into the dev system's recordings directory. |
| 01:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | and updates a couple settings in the db to make the dev machine the master, etc.. |
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| 01:51 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I think the jumppoint for the manual recording scheduler actually jumps to the instant recorder. |
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| 02:16 | <Rince> | morning |
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| 02:31 | <ShockValue> | anyone have a gamepad hooked up and using it with mythgame? |
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| 05:04 | <DogBoy> | any suggestions for taking a screen capture of my mythtv? |
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| 05:37 | <Rule> | Hi Folks. Small question : How is the recordings screenshot taken ? Is it after 5 minutes into the show, or the first frame.. or.. The problem I have is that more often than not, I have a screenshot linked to the recording that is from the commercial just before the show. Can I define it to re-take an image that is outside of the commercial cuts ? |
| 05:38 | <thor_> | phew, only if you really want to fiddle with MythWeb code |
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| 05:39 | <o_cee> | Chutt: you around? |
| 05:39 | <Rule> | thor : hmmm haven't read it yet. I assumed it was the same image as used in the Myth GUI ? |
| 05:39 | <thor_> | o_cee, you have anything left for 0.14? |
| 05:39 | <o_cee> | yeah |
| 05:39 | <o_cee> | i need to fix something in gant |
| 05:40 | <thor_> | Rule, ah possibly .... |
| 05:40 | <o_cee> | but i'm not sure i'll have time to do it today.. but it's real easy and chutt could do it himself |
| 05:41 | <thor_> | something in the theme, or something to do with code ? |
| 05:41 | <o_cee> | theme |
| 05:41 | <o_cee> | is he asleep? |
| 05:42 | <thor_> | probably, it's quarter to 6 am in the NE |
| 05:42 | <o_cee> | text-blank.png needs to be cut a little in height |
| 05:42 | <o_cee> | oh :) |
| 05:42 | <o_cee> | if you select swedish, you see the top of the menu alternatives second line that wraps |
| 05:43 | <o_cee> | not pretty :) |
| 05:43 | <o_cee> | not pretty at all |
| 05:43 | <o_cee> | i'll try to fix it right away anyway |
| 05:43 | <thor_> | heh, I'm not going to touch anything at this point ... |
| 05:43 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 05:43 | <o_cee> | i need to touch this.. try switching to swedish and see for yourself :) |
| 05:44 | <thor_> | I believe you, just nothing I can do about it |
| 05:44 | <o_cee> | nah :) |
| 05:44 | <o_cee> | these kinds of things are just not fun fixing.. also, cvs tree and my tree doesn't exactly match at the moment :) |
| 05:46 | <ceed> | humm i just now installed my pvr250 |
| 05:46 | <ceed> | and trying it with my xbox as frontend, the picture seems to be jumping up and down about a pixel or two |
| 05:47 | <thor_> | ntsc/pal mismatch |
| 05:47 | <sfr> | update the ivtv driver or set the y resolution to 576 (for pal) |
| 05:47 | <ceed> | humm i set everything to pal i think |
| 05:47 | <o_cee> | ceed: try reading the docs. |
| 05:49 | <ceed> | ah |
| 05:49 | <ceed> | width is 720 and height is 576, right? |
| 05:50 | <sfr> | at maximum, yes. |
| 05:50 | <ceed> | wow |
| 05:51 | <ceed> | now what's left is fixing the color |
| 05:52 | <o_cee> | BAH. forgot make install in theme dir |
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| 05:52 | <o_cee> | now it's okay |
| 05:52 | * | o_cee wants cvs write access :) |
| 05:52 | <o_cee> | you want to commit it thor or should i email chutt? |
| 05:52 | <ceed> | humm do i need to adjust "hue" to get stronger colors? |
| 05:52 | <o_cee> | just try, it won't blow up |
| 05:52 | <o_cee> | that's what the rest of us does |
| 05:53 | <thor_> | no, email Chutt |
| 05:54 | <thor_> | in 24 hours (post 0.14) I'll commit anything you like :-) |
| 05:56 | <o_cee> | hehehhehe |
| 05:56 | <o_cee> | just emailed him, he should see it |
| 05:56 | <o_cee> | he will see it :) |
| 05:56 | <o_cee> | ah well, time for a shower.. |
| 05:56 | <o_cee> | go get some sleep thor :) |
| 05:56 | <thor_> | heh |
| 05:56 | <thor_> | yup |
| 05:56 | <o_cee> | talk to you later |
| 05:57 | <thor_> | yup |
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| 06:59 | <DogBoy> | .14 coming up eh |
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| 07:17 | <sfr> | in the geek world, all woman still seem to _love_ cooking. |
| 07:18 | <Rince> | s/woman/men/ |
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| 07:32 | <Toastie> | If I have a budget DVB card, what are my options for using a CI module? |
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| 08:27 | <Spida> | hi |
| 08:35 | <Spida> | anybody awake here? |
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| 09:07 | <pahli_bar> | no one |
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| 10:27 | <o_cee> | Chutt: you awake yet? |
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| 10:29 | <pahli_bar> | hey o_cee. |
| 10:29 | <o_cee> | hi |
| 10:29 | <pahli_bar> | it might be afternoon before we see Chutt again. |
| 10:29 | <o_cee> | oh.. preparing for the big day ;) |
| 10:30 | <pahli_bar> | heh |
| 10:30 | <pahli_bar> | i was kind of expecting to wake up and see 0.14 released :( |
| 10:30 | <o_cee> | hehe |
| 10:30 | <o_cee> | think he said he'd pack it up today |
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| 10:50 | <Chutt> | bah, it's not even 11 yet, give me a little time :p |
| 10:50 | <o_cee> | heheheh :) |
| 10:50 | <o_cee> | you got my mail? |
| 10:53 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 10:53 | <o_cee> | good :) |
| 10:57 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: which of the following should i use in the docs: RTJPEG, RTJpeg, RTjpeg or something else? |
| 10:59 | <Chutt> | RTjpeg |
| 10:59 | <Chutt> | how's stuff looking for you? |
| 10:59 | <Chutt> | ooh, one thing, if you don't mind |
| 10:59 | <Chutt> | have you written anything about the 'channel editor' in setup? |
| 10:59 | <_rkulagow> | as far as commits? i've put up .14 already, but won't bump until after you've packaged, so everything will stay at .14 for now. |
| 11:00 | <_rkulagow> | i think bruce mentioned it in his filter docs. |
| 11:00 | <Chutt> | well |
| 11:00 | <Chutt> | it may be nice to have a note in there that people using tv_grab_na shouldn't use the channel editor until after they've run mythfilldatabase |
| 11:01 | <Chutt> | and that even then, they probably don't need to touch it |
| 11:01 | <_rkulagow> | ok, i'll see where to put it in. how long until packaging? |
| 11:02 | <Chutt> | i'm going through all the modules now, applying sfr's latest translation patch and making sure the version numbers are at 0.14 |
| 11:03 | <Chutt> | i'll wait until you say you're ready for the final packaging, though =) |
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| 11:03 | <_rkulagow> | ok, i'll work on it and let you know. bbl. |
| 11:04 | <Chutt> | thanks =) |
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| 11:32 | <aaearon> | has anyone had experience with motherboards that have nvidia soundstorm onboard audio? did you get it to work without much trouble? |
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| 11:57 | <pahli_bar> | heh. if you do a spell check in emacs it recognizes emacs as a valid word but not xemacs |
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| 12:02 | <_rkulagow> | when you ispell bruce markey's email address the recommended spelling is "bum". |
| 12:02 | <pahli_bar> | heh. |
| 12:05 | <Chutt> | writing up the release announcement takes forever |
| 12:06 | <pahli_bar> | heh. i just made a rc release of my app and my release announcement was: see changelog |
| 12:07 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:07 | <Chutt> | i never got in the habit of keeping a changelog |
| 12:07 | * | pahli_bar sneaks away to check if he put a changelog in mythnews and mythgallery |
| 12:08 | <pahli_bar> | duh. only in mythnews, and that too is not updated. |
| 12:08 | <Chutt> | i don't believe you did |
| 12:08 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:09 | <pahli_bar> | will update them after the release |
| 12:09 | <Chutt> | i've already made tarballs + uploaded them for everything but mythtv |
| 12:10 | <pahli_bar> | there goes my afternoon :) |
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| 12:20 | <thor_> | yeah |
| 12:21 | <Chutt> | hey thor |
| 12:21 | <thor_> | yup |
| 12:22 | <pahli_bar> | thor_: still groggy from last night's party? ;) |
| 12:22 | <thor_> | heh ... drinking coffee |
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| 12:27 | <Chutt> | Hi, |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | I was wondering if you have looked into a client server system? |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | The idea would be to have MythTv running as a server that pc or xboxes |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | could connect to and pull down content. One could even build a thin |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | Linux client that could connect directly to a TV. |
| 12:28 | <thor_> | that on a list somewhere ? |
| 12:28 | <Chutt> | private email to me |
| 12:28 | <thor_> | someone got closed proprietary Windows client |
| 12:29 | <pahli_bar> | heh |
| 12:29 | <thor_> | uhm, yeah we "do" that (wrong tense, right idea) |
| 12:30 | <thor_> | might even document the protocol (when it actually works) |
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| 12:41 | <o_cee> | internet explorer is so damn annoying when doing homepages |
| 12:41 | * | o_cee is back (gone 01:34:19) |
| 12:41 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:41 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, what's the word? |
| 12:41 | <o_cee> | anyone who could check a page for me on konq or something? |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 12:42 | <o_cee> | updating the server |
| 12:43 | <_rkulagow> | well, i'm compiling now, but i've got to go pickup my wife's cousin from a sleepover. it'll be another hour or so before i can finish up. too late? |
| 12:43 | <o_cee> | http://trekotor.se/test1/index2.html (there's some image replacement going on on the header, it works as it should in moz and opera, but ie is strange) |
| 12:48 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, naw, that's cool |
| 12:48 | <Chutt> | just was wondering if you had an estimate, is all |
| 12:49 | <Chutt> | o_cee, what's it supposed to look like? |
| 12:49 | <o_cee> | i could take a screenshot here.. hold on |
| 12:50 | <o_cee> | or fire up mozilla :) |
| 12:50 | <Chutt> | it looks the same in mozilla or konq, here |
| 12:50 | <o_cee> | great |
| 12:50 | <o_cee> | then it's only IE left.. what a surprise |
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| 12:56 | <krash314> | Anyone here that can help me with the format of the vob files created when ripping a DVD using MythDVD? |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | they're a direct copy off the dvd. |
| 12:57 | <krash314> | and if I want to put them back on a dvd? |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | why exactly would you do that? |
| 12:58 | <krash314> | if my original dvd has problems? |
| 12:58 | <Chutt> | riiight. |
| 12:59 | <krash314> | :) |
| 12:59 | <Chutt> | ask elsewhere. |
| 13:00 | <ceed> | humm with a pvr 250 on a fast backend and a xbox as frontend, motion seems to kind of skip some frames |
| 13:01 | <krash314> | Chutt: not looking to do something illegal here. if i want to rip a dvd I can just copy the whole structure and then mkisofs and dvdrecord. that's not what i'm looking for |
| 13:02 | <Chutt> | still the same answer |
| 13:02 | <Chutt> | ask user-support questions on the mailing list |
| 13:03 | <krash314> | k. sorry to bother you |
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| 13:07 | <o_cee> | it was "line-height" that made IE go boom. microsoft never stops to amaze |
| 13:16 | <ceed> | hehe |
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| 13:18 | <paulc35> | Hey: Finally got the ivtv-fb / tv-out working on the pvr-350 card. Nice! Two questions though: |
| 13:19 | <paulc35> | First, I am not able to be recording and at the same time watch a recording, although I was able to do this when I was operating without tv-out on the pvr-350. Is this a limitation of the hardware, my hardware, or the ... |
| 13:19 | <paulc35> | software? |
| 13:21 | <paulc35> | Second question: How about the unloading of the ivtv-fb module? I tried the suggestion of loading another framebuffer module first, but then the ivtv-fb would load but tv-out didn't work. Was that perhaps because the ... |
| 13:21 | <paulc35> | framebuffer device for the pvr card moved, say from fb0 to fb1? |
| 13:22 | <paulc35> | Maybe I should ask these on the ivtv list?! :) |
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| 13:36 | <o_cee> | yeah, you should. |
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| 13:53 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: i'm back. gimme a few minutes and i should be good to commit. |
| 13:57 | <_rkulagow> | ok, i just looked at the channel editor. i guess post -.14 channel 2 can come before channel 7. (seems that the sort should maybe have an implied "0" for single-digit channels) |
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| 13:58 | <Morph> | hmm where is the setting for how often myth prebuffers playback? |
| 13:59 | <o_cee> | Morph: there is no such setting |
| 13:59 | <Morph> | hmm..seems to be prebuffering quite a bit here. |
| 14:00 | <o_cee> | after a time of watching live tv? |
| 14:00 | <sfr> | Morph: exit live-tv and reenter it and see if it's better then. |
| 14:00 | <o_cee> | using .13 or cvs? |
| 14:00 | <Morph> | no. on playback of a recorded show. |
| 14:00 | <Morph> | o_cee: cvs |
| 14:01 | <o_cee> | i've seen it while watching live tv for a while it starts to stutter.. |
| 14:01 | <o_cee> | very odd |
| 14:01 | <Morph> | this is right away.. |
| 14:01 | <o_cee> | using ivtv .1.9? |
| 14:01 | <Morph> | yeah. very odd. |
| 14:01 | <sfr> | happens here too, but only after switching channels a few times. |
| 14:01 | <Morph> | Yup. but that shouldnt be an issue...its a recorded show..not live tv. |
| 14:02 | <o_cee> | Morph: try playing it in mplayer? |
| 14:02 | <Morph> | yeah. looks fine. no stuttering. |
| 14:02 | <sfr> | o_cee: do you see an increased cpu load when it happens? |
| 14:05 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: syncing now. |
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| 14:16 | <o_cee> | sfr: sorry, was on the phone. haven't checked that |
| 14:17 | <Morph> | looking closer..its prebuffering every second or so. |
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| 14:24 | <thor_> | <_rkulagow>, section 10.5 of the docs has (virtually) the same NOTE: twice |
| 14:27 | <_rkulagow> | yep, cut and paste error. i'll fix. |
| 14:28 | <quink_> | hey. i am having trouble watching live tv and i am not sure whats up |
| 14:28 | <quink_> | and whatever happens seems to kill the backend |
| 14:30 | <o_cee> | lovely error description. |
| 14:30 | <quink_> | well what would you like? |
| 14:30 | <thor_> | and 21.15/21.16 is a little confusing ... if you moved the first 2 paragraphs of 21.16 to 21.15, then addeded a no to the beginning of 21.16, that might be a little clearer .... but I'm being a bit nit picky ... |
| 14:30 | <racer> | where is the visor OSD theme downloadable? |
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| 14:30 | <racer> | i had it on my old box |
| 14:30 | <thor_> | www.mythtv.org |
| 14:31 | <racer> | but can't find it on the site |
| 14:31 | <racer> | all i see it the themes but no osd? |
| 14:31 | <racer> | site has changed |
| 14:34 | <_rkulagow> | thor: that was actually on purpose; i did the same thing on "canada cable" so that two entries fall down to the same answer. |
| 14:34 | <_rkulagow> | i'll relook after .14. |
| 14:34 | <thor_> | yup |
| 14:36 | <quink_> | when i go to live tv i get this: Unknown video codec: open: Device or resource busy |
| 14:38 | <racer> | visorosd not downloadable anymore? |
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| 14:41 | <_rkulagow> | captain_murdoch: here? |
| 14:44 | <dcas> | is there a list of mythfrontend key bindings somewhere? |
| 14:44 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | keys.txt? |
| 14:44 | <thor_> | keys.txt |
| 14:44 | <dcas> | thanks. |
| 14:44 | <_rkulagow> | keys.txt |
| 14:44 | <_rkulagow> | alltogether now! |
| 14:44 | <thor_> | keys |
| 14:44 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | keys.txt!!! |
| 14:44 | <sfr> | keys.txt |
| 14:44 | <thor_> | dot |
| 14:44 | <thor_> | txt |
| 14:44 | <_rkulagow> | ! |
| 14:45 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | i must do an introduction web site one day |
| 14:45 | <thor_> | no, then people will ask where the introductory site is |
| 14:45 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | :P |
| 14:45 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | good point |
| 14:45 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | 0.14 today or tomorrow? |
| 14:46 | <dcas> | you should add the key bindings to the Documentation portion of the website. |
| 14:46 | <thor_> | you can set them all through mythweb |
| 14:46 | <thor_> | and the README clearly says to look at keys.txt |
| 14:46 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | Its here : http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-8.html |
| 14:47 | <mikegrb> | keys.txt |
| 14:47 | <thor_> | nap? |
| 14:48 | <_rkulagow> | the very first sentence in the HOWTO under "using mythtv" tells you to look at keys.txt. |
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| 14:51 | <dcas> | I was thinking that perhaps some html could be generated from keys.txt and posted on the web. |
| 14:53 | <o_cee> | no point when the keys are customizable |
| 14:54 | <dcas> | where/how are the keybindings stored? |
| 14:55 | <o_cee> | the database? |
| 14:56 | <Pete__> | I agree it's there in the docs, but why not make it bold. It must be one of the most common questions. |
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| 14:57 | <dcas> | Or link to it from the TOC. |
| 14:57 | <o_cee> | not really, the most common question is probably: "bohoo, i can't watch live tv and all it says that it can access /dev/dsp/, bohoo, what should i doo.. oh, i have to setup audio tooo? bohoooo!" |
| 14:57 | <o_cee> | bah |
| 14:57 | <Pete__> | :-S |
| 14:58 | <quink_> | anyone willing to give me some help figuring out whats wrong with my install? |
| 14:58 | <o_cee> | use the mailinglist for that |
| 14:58 | <thor_> | keys.txt! |
| 14:58 | <thor_> | oh, nm |
| 14:58 | <o_cee> | :) |
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| 14:59 | <thor_> | quink_, sounds like your video card is not recognized .... what's lspci say? |
| 15:00 | * | o_cee is away: milkshake time :) |
| 15:00 | <sfr> | o_cee: hmmm, selfmade? |
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| 15:03 | <thor_> | hmmm swedish girlfriend ... shower ... milkshake |
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| 15:07 | <quink> | damn internet |
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| 15:13 | <o_cee> | sfr: yes indeed :) |
| 15:14 | <o_cee> | thor_: yepp. actually one of her girl friends are here as well. uhm, yeah |
| 15:14 | <o_cee> | muhaha |
| 15:14 | <sfr> | o_cee: and it's ingredients are: 1x car,1x money, 1x mcdonalds :) |
| 15:15 | <o_cee> | nooooo! :) i promise, did them myself |
| 15:15 | <o_cee> | the milkshakes that is.. |
| 15:15 | <o_cee> | think i'm going to make another one |
| 15:17 | <thor_> | so ... just to recap ... _multiple_ swedish girlfriends, a shower, and _multiple_ milkshakes ... |
| 15:17 | <o_cee> | exactly |
| 15:18 | <o_cee> | life's good :) |
| 15:18 | <thor_> | plus an iPod |
| 15:18 | <sfr> | plus mythtv 0.14 |
| 15:18 | <o_cee> | well, not really mine, it's my girlfriends.. haven't been allowed to use it ;) |
| 15:18 | <o_cee> | with GANT :) |
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| 15:19 | <Spida> | hi |
| 15:19 | <thor_> | keys.txt |
| 15:19 | <o_cee> | haha |
| 15:19 | <sfr> | and you need a working soundcard |
| 15:20 | <o_cee> | and yes, you can use myth "on a network" |
| 15:20 | <thor_> | if ALSA, try OSS, and vice versa |
| 15:20 | <Spida> | I have problems compiling ivtv... |
| 15:20 | <mdz> | dammit, the one you missed |
| 15:20 | <mdz> | #ivtv |
| 15:20 | <o_cee> | -dev |
| 15:21 | <mdz> | that was yesterday's stock answer |
| 15:21 | <o_cee> | mdz: you saw what my problem with mythweb and your changes was? |
| 15:21 | <thor_> | cp ./utils/videodev2.h into ./driver/ |
| 15:21 | <mdz> | o_cee: I broke it and Chutt fixed it and I hate PHP |
| 15:21 | <o_cee> | yeah, we had some troubleshooting once i could prove i wasn't running the wrong backend ;) |
| 15:21 | <sfr> | and stay clear of cvs ivtv. use version 0.1.9 |
| 15:22 | <o_cee> | Spida: and don't unse those 2.6 kernels, please. |
| 15:22 | <Spida> | thor_: thx, that fixed it |
| 15:22 | <thor_> | yup |
| 15:22 | <o_cee> | mdz: but was it working for you? |
| 15:22 | <Spida> | o_cee: I am on 2.4.24 |
| 15:22 | <o_cee> | goodie |
| 15:22 | <Spida> | *g* |
| 15:22 | <o_cee> | hehehe |
| 15:23 | <o_cee> | anyone heard the grou "The Knife"? swedish (new) group.. listening to them now, absolutely gourgeous music |
| 15:23 | <sfr> | cool. new game: guess the solution. and the winner for this round is: thor! pick up your shiny new washing machine at ... |
| 15:23 | <o_cee> | weeh! |
| 15:23 | <o_cee> | come over here and grab a milkshake! |
| 15:24 | <mdz> | o_cee: it was, oddly enough. maybe a different version of php? |
| 15:24 | <thor_> | thank you, thank you, thank you very much |
| 15:24 | <thor_> | I won't tell you what I'd like to grab |
| 15:24 | <o_cee> | mdz: 4.3.4 here.. think it's the latest "stable" version |
| 15:24 | <sfr> | thor_: aren't you married? tsts |
| 15:24 | <o_cee> | thor_: :) |
| 15:24 | <thor_> | oh, yeah |
| 15:24 | <thor_> | darn |
| 15:24 | <o_cee> | d'oh |
| 15:24 | <o_cee> | ah well |
| 15:25 | <o_cee> | i'll grab som for you |
| 15:25 | <sfr> | hm, i'm not :) |
| 15:25 | <mdz> | o_cee: 4.3.3 here |
| 15:25 | <o_cee> | mdz: strange.. ah well, got it sorted before .14 :) |
| 15:25 | <o_cee> | that would have caused mailinglist traffic :) |
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| 15:34 | <Spida> | should ivtv's "./ivtvfwextract.pl /path/to/firmware/pvr250_16_21062.exe" give me any feedback? |
| 15:34 | <sfr> | at least two files |
| 15:34 | <Spida> | which ones? |
| 15:35 | <o_cee> | nah, it just does its thing |
| 15:35 | <sfr> | and btw, RTFREADME |
| 15:35 | <Salec> | be sure to ugh change /path/to/firmware ;) |
| 15:36 | <Spida> | yeah, I changed that path |
| 15:36 | <mdz> | also, #ivtv-dev |
| 15:37 | <Spida> | ok, I got the firmware-files extracted |
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| 15:38 | <o_cee> | good for you. |
| 15:38 | <drd> | yeh,,, readme makes u work :/ |
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| 15:39 | <Spida> | drd *g* |
| 15:39 | <drd> | they need to add stupid support for sis96x into kernel :( |
| 15:40 | <drd> | anybody here usin newer sis chipset? |
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| 15:41 | <o_cee> | *shrug* |
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| 15:42 | <drd> | anything that got assigned to irq 12 on my cheap mobo wouldnt work, sux, took me forever to figure out that everything would work fine if i plugged in a mouse |
| 15:42 | <drd> | on the compooter i got for mythtv heh |
| 15:46 | <DogBoy> | hehe |
| 15:46 | <DogBoy> | how _did_ you figure that one out |
| 15:46 | <drd> | shit wasnt working.... then after a while i realized everything that was getting assigned to irq 12 wasnt working |
| 15:47 | <drd> | so i fugred i'd plug a mouse in to see if bios would assign shit to that irq |
| 15:47 | <drd> | and then all was well :( |
| 15:48 | <drd> | so they did something that assumes you're going to have a mouse plugged in all the time |
| 15:48 | <drd> | piece of shit |
| 15:48 | <DogBoy> | lol |
| 15:49 | <drd> | which totally makes sense,, coz why would anyone need a computer without a mouse |
| 15:50 | <sfr> | by using a keyboard maybe? |
| 15:51 | <drd> | me was being sarcastic |
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| 15:51 | <mattfelsen> | are there any places aside from /usr/local/share/mythtv and ~/.mythtv that are searched for menu xml files? |
| 15:52 | <mattfelsen> | the text in the tv schedule menu doesn't match the tv_schedule.xml in either of those places |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | alttext |
| 15:53 | <mattfelsen> | ahhh and that automatically kicks in when the regular text is too long? |
| 15:53 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 15:54 | <mattfelsen> | neato |
| 15:54 | <Chutt> | since some themes have more room than others |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | i should probably do the release |
| 15:56 | <sfr> | after applying my last mythgallery translation patch |
| 15:57 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | anyone know any wireless keyboards with a mouse/trackball built in? |
| 15:57 | <Chutt> | sfr, i did mythgallery earlier today :( |
| 15:57 | <Chutt> | i was just leaving the mythtv tarball until rkulagow was done with his docs |
| 15:57 | <Chutt> | though, hmm |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | i'd just have to move the release tag |
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| 15:58 | <sfr> | oh, well. as long as it makes it into 1.0. |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | Updating 'mythgallery_de.qm'... |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | 35 finished, 0 unfinished and 0 untranslated messages |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | you've got em all there =) |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | german is by far the most complete translation |
| 15:59 | <sfr> | but not complete yet |
| 16:00 | <o_cee> | [DOA][DOA]Tarkie: i think mine is called Airboard or something |
| 16:00 | * | o_cee is away: another milkshake.. bye bye |
| 16:00 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | i can find lots on the net, but UK availability is a major issue |
| 16:01 | <o_cee> | Chutt: i might take a stab at .se translation later depending on how bored i'll get :) |
| 16:01 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 16:01 | <mattfelsen> | o_cee: i've done some mods to ui.xml |
| 16:01 | <sfr> | Chutt: i don't think. you did a final translations update in mythgallery which added a few strings to the .ts file. i sent a patch to the -dev list ~1.5 hours ago |
| 16:01 | <o_cee> | later as in next month or so.. |
| 16:01 | <o_cee> | mattfelsen: for gant? |
| 16:01 | <mattfelsen> | yes |
| 16:01 | <o_cee> | wich is? |
| 16:02 | <Chutt> | sfr, updated the release tarball =) |
| 16:02 | <sfr> | Chutt: cool |
| 16:02 | <mattfelsen> | changing the text to verdana and adjusting sizes/position so text isn't being cut off |
| 16:02 | <o_cee> | yeah but changing it to verdana will cause you trouble of course |
| 16:03 | <mattfelsen> | because it's wider? |
| 16:03 | <o_cee> | yeah |
| 16:04 | * | o_cee is away: now i'm gone |
| 16:04 | <mattfelsen> | mmk |
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| 16:20 | <Daeken> | hello all |
| 16:20 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | evenin |
| 16:21 | <Daeken> | i'm having an issue with either my tuner card or mythtv ... for some reason, lower channels work properly and match up with the program guide, but higher up channels say that they're one channel but are off by as much as 5 |
| 16:21 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | where are you? |
| 16:22 | <Daeken> | US |
| 16:22 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | which card? |
| 16:22 | <Daeken> | ati TV wonder |
| 16:22 | <Daeken> | other than that, it works very nicely. |
| 16:22 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | :P |
| 16:22 | <ceed> | humm with a pvr 250 on a fast backend and a xbox as frontend, motion of characters seems to kind of skip some frames |
| 16:23 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | i cant help with the ati, never used one |
| 16:23 | <Daeken> | ah, thanks anyway :) |
| 16:23 | <ceed> | is that something to do with motion detection missing on some part? |
| 16:23 | <ceed> | i think i head about something like that |
| 16:23 | <KeyserSoze> | ceed: is the CPU usage on the xbox pegged? |
| 16:24 | * | KeyserSoze wonders if it's a decoding issue, or a network bandwidth/server bandwidth/harddrive bandwidth thing |
| 16:24 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | im off to install FC1, cya later |
| 16:25 | <ceed> | humm good thinking |
| 16:25 | <[DOA]Tarkie> | hmm, if i can find the cd's :( |
| 16:25 | <ceed> | i'll find out, a fried is just hogging the xbox |
| 16:25 | <ceed> | playing nba ;) |
| 16:25 | <ceed> |
