| --- | Log | opened Fri Jan 30 00:00:12 2004 |
| 00:00 | <flyer> | hello |
| 00:02 | <Rince> | Hmm, can anyone tell me what (in the recorded-video-display) the dollar-sign with the crossed red band means? that there is no commercial found? |
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| 00:05 | <Rince> | re |
| 00:05 | <thor_> | has been flagged for commercials |
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| 00:10 | <Rince> | Hmmm |
| 00:10 | <Rince> | I really have to learn more about the lird... ,-) I want to be able to skip without keyboad ;-) |
| 00:11 | <thor_> | you can hit 1 in Watch Recordings to find out what the icons mean |
| 00:22 | <overridex> | thor_: got it working |
| 00:22 | <thor_> | cool ... some missing argument or something ? |
| 00:24 | <overridex> | hehe nope, it actually was running as root |
| 00:24 | <overridex> | and the script used the 'rc' command without the full path |
| 00:24 | <overridex> | and gentoo has a command called rc to change runlevels apparently |
| 00:24 | <thor_> | ah |
| 00:24 | <overridex> | so it was using that /sbin/rc instead of the lirc one when run as root |
| 00:25 | <Rince> | ;-) |
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| 00:31 | <ShockValue> | hi all.. where can i find a complete list of commands for the lircrc file for mythtv? ive been surfin around the web, but all i can find are pre-made examples with are a mish mash of differnt functions |
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| 00:32 | <cmorgan> | in keys.txt in the mythtv source directory |
| 00:32 | <cmorgan> | oh |
| 00:32 | <cmorgan> | good thing i read 25% of that ;-) |
| 00:32 | <cmorgan> | not sure on the lircrc interface stuff |
| 00:33 | <Aridhol> | I've been following this guide http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/#setupmythtv and all seems to go well except up to the capture test. I always get an input/output error even after rmmod'ing the driver and reloading |
| 00:34 | <thor_> | do an irrecord, and get a name for each button on your remote, then figure out how you want to map those to keyboard presses in irxevent ... it is not rocket science |
| 00:35 | <ShockValue> | yes, ive done the irrecord.. i have lirc working fine.. i just dont know the whole list i have to work with in myth |
| 00:35 | <thor_> | see cmorgan, re: keys.txt |
| 00:35 | <ShockValue> | i think keys.txt should be a good enough example that i can figure it out though |
| 00:35 | <thor_> | or fire up mythweb |
| 00:35 | <thor_> | where you can map actions to any _keyboard_ key you like |
| 00:36 | <thor_> | Aridhol, could be a bazillion things .... |
| 00:37 | <Aridhol> | it was working last night but I rebooted and now it doesn't want to co-operate. The device shows in lspci properly and modprobing returns no errors |
| 00:37 | <Aridhol> | I am doing the cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg as root |
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| 00:38 | <thor_> | PVR-x50? |
| 00:38 | <Aridhol> | yeah pvr250 |
| 00:38 | <thor_> | ivtv 0.19 ? |
| 00:38 | <Aridhol> | yep |
| 00:38 | <Aridhol> | kernel 2.4.22 |
| 00:38 | <thor_> | correct firmware for 0.19? |
| 00:39 | <Aridhol> | I believe so, it was working last night. I capture 2 shows |
| 00:39 | <Aridhol> | err captured |
| 00:39 | <thor_> | dunno, could be firmware, could be your BIOS likes to move interrupts around on boot ... could be lots of things |
| 00:39 | <Aridhol> | I had the same error earlier and I had to remove and reload and it worked |
| 00:41 | <thor_> | you didn't build/install a kernel in between? (ie. right saa7whatever module still in place ?) |
| 00:44 | <Aridhol> | no I don't remember redoing my kernel but I need to add vfat support anyways so I'll redo iy |
| 00:44 | <Aridhol> | it |
| 00:45 | <ShockValue> | somethign else ive been wondering. Occasionally, while watching TV in myth, during high frame movement (like a fast camera pan) i get a bit of stutter. What do you think is my bottleneck? (PVR250, 700Mhz, 640MB ram, GeForce2/32) . need to figure out whats most in need of upgrade to get rid of that issue. |
| 00:47 | <thor_> | is the stutter _in_ the video, or just in playback |
| 00:48 | <ShockValue> | hrm, good question |
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| 00:48 | <ShockValue> | ill go pop on the TV and see if i can discern |
| 00:55 | <ShockValue> | hrm.. how rude.. seems the ebuild for mythtv in gentoo doesnt inclue lircrc.example |
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| 01:07 | <plac3bo> | anyone have experience w/multiple tuners? is it pretty stable? |
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| 01:17 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | lots of people have multiple tuners. some on the same machine, some spread over several machines. I have 4 myself (1 using software encoding in the master backend and 3 AVerMedia M179 cards in another machine). no stability problems here. |
| 01:21 | <plac3bo> | cool, im thinking about adding another pvr250, but this thread http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=92417;search_string=dual%20tuners;guest=2180536&t=search_engine#92417 said there were a few problems...wasnt sure if this or other things were still an issue |
| 01:23 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | that guy's talking about having 2 different sources on his two tuners. that's not a stability issue. |
| 01:24 | <Chutt> | blah blah blah |
| 01:24 | <ofer> | my pvr250 crashes my epia m relativly often |
| 01:24 | <ofer> | doesnt crash on my pIII 866, does have a funky audio problem when recording every once and a while |
| 01:25 | <ofer> | i think ill just get a more powerful cpu and record in mpeg4 |
| 01:25 | <Rince> | it dies? |
| 01:25 | <Rince> | it does? How? |
| 01:25 | <ofer> | halts |
| 01:25 | <Rince> | strange |
| 01:25 | <ofer> | probably ivtv problem |
| 01:25 | <Rince> | I have an epia M2 with a 350 |
| 01:25 | <Rince> | works like a charm |
| 01:25 | <Chutt> | ivtv problems |
| 01:26 | <Chutt> | via chipsets =) |
| 01:26 | <ofer> | this is an epia 933 |
| 01:26 | <ofer> | yeah,, i hate this via, im happy im only borrowing it from work to see how well it works =) |
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| 01:26 | <Chutt> | i've been seriously pondering replacing my epia-m with one of those ultra cheap dell servers |
| 01:26 | <Rince> | well - okay, I have it "only" two weeks now, but it works quite lovely |
| 01:27 | <ofer> | i like how quiet the epia is |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | mine's not quiet enough |
| 01:27 | <thor_> | heh |
| 01:27 | <thor_> | mine is :-) |
| 01:27 | * | Rince wants to replace the fan with a passive cooling system, then it _is_ quiet |
| 01:27 | <ofer> | my 866 is like a jet |
| 01:28 | <ShockValue> | grrr |
| 01:28 | <ofer> | but im thinking, i should just put the pvr 250 in my router |
| 01:28 | <thor_> | and powerful enough to calculate pi to 6 digits |
| 01:28 | <Rince> | question: does anyone here uses a 350 with TV-Out? do you use xine for dvd-watching? how? ;) |
| 01:28 | <thor_> | hmmmm pie |
| 01:28 | <ShockValue> | i manage to hammer my /home/mythtv/lircrc file into non-workingness :) |
| 01:28 | * | ShockValue thinks programming remotes + vodka is a bad plan |
| 01:29 | <thor_> | more vodka, less programming |
| 01:29 | <ShockValue> | gotta work late tomorrow... |
| 01:29 | <Rince> | ShockValue: sounds like fun ;-) |
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| 01:29 | <overridex> | hi guys... something i was wondering |
| 01:29 | <Rince> | overridex: shoot |
| 01:29 | <Chutt> | i suppose i should apply patches or something |
| 01:29 | <thor_> | heh |
| 01:29 | <ofer> | anybody using a pvr with the dshow mythtv filters? |
| 01:30 | <ShockValue> | what is wrong with this lineL |
| 01:30 | <ShockValue> | begin |
| 01:30 | <ShockValue> | prog = mythtv |
| 01:30 | <ShockValue> | button = 9 |
| 01:30 | <ShockValue> | config = Key 9 CurrentWindow |
| 01:30 | <ShockValue> | end |
| 01:30 | <Rince> | ofer: not yt |
| 01:30 | <Rince> | yet |
| 01:30 | <overridex> | now that i changed my video input, and the prefix on my recordings has changing to 70 (used to be 50) will it still remember what shows it's recorded and not re-record them, even those the chanid isn't the same? |
| 01:30 | <overridex> | i guess the channel doesn't really matter does it? |
| 01:31 | <thor_> | ShockValue, you want prog=mythtv, or prog=irxevent ? |
| 01:32 | <ShockValue> | mythtv, im using built in functionality |
| 01:32 | <thor_> | k |
| 01:32 | <ShockValue> | but for some reason myth has quit responding to commands after modifying that file |
| 01:34 | <Chutt> | thor, whaddya think of that mythvideo imdb patch? |
| 01:35 | <thor_> | with the perl? |
| 01:35 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 01:35 | <Chutt> | on one hand, it'd be nice to have it in for 0.14 |
| 01:35 | <Chutt> | so if the format changes, it'd be easier for people to fix |
| 01:35 | <thor_> | yup ... |
| 01:35 | <Chutt> | on the other, release is soon, and that's a possible bigass bug |
| 01:35 | <thor_> | dunno ... would really like to C++'ify |
| 01:35 | <Chutt> | on the gripping hand.. |
| 01:35 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:36 | <Chutt> | naw, i agree with the perl |
| 01:36 | <thor_> | hmmm |
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| 01:36 | <thor_> | well, stick it in, and if there's a huge problem, people can just manually edit metadata for a month or so |
| 01:37 | <thor_> | (that's not a very good answer) |
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| 01:37 | <Chutt> | it _is_ just mythvideo |
| 01:37 | <thor_> | yup |
| 01:37 | <Chutt> | and 0.13 doesn't work with imdb right now anyway |
| 01:37 | <Chutt> | so, no loss |
| 01:37 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 01:37 | <Chutt> | allright, it's going in |
| 01:37 | <thor_> | no harm, no foul |
| 01:39 | <thor_> | is that most recent attempt to fix the album art stuff in already (from a few days ago)? |
| 01:40 | <Chutt> | think so |
| 01:41 | <thor_> | k ... I keep meaning to look at it ... |
| 01:45 | <thor_> | I miss stan |
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| 01:54 | <thor_> | _rkulagow, the Tivo and Replay blurbs are slightly messed up (at least in the latest sync on the website) |
| 01:55 | <Chutt> | hrm? |
| 01:55 | <thor_> | Tivo text section is empty, appears in Replay section |
| 01:56 | <thor_> | (it may be intentional) |
| 01:58 | <billytwowilly> | good evening, |
| 01:58 | <thor_> | .. tonight, Dinosaurs ... |
| 01:58 | <billytwowilly> | thor_: I remember back to you telling me mfd stuff would probably be ready for 0.15. How's it going? |
| 01:59 | <thor_> | there'll be something in there for 0.15 |
| 01:59 | <billytwowilly> | nifty. |
| 01:59 | <billytwowilly> | keep up the good work;) |
| 01:59 | <thor_> | actually, I can't do too much more without a client, as it's just getting too damn confusing |
| 02:00 | <billytwowilly> | well, I look forward to seeing it working. |
| 02:00 | <thor_> | heh, join the club |
| 02:00 | <billytwowilly> | wouldn't mythtv also be the client? |
| 02:00 | <billytwowilly> | I think I started it;) |
| 02:00 | <billytwowilly> | or atleast jumped on the band wagon early;) |
| 02:01 | <thor_> | yup, but it needs to learn to talk to the mfd |
| 02:01 | <billytwowilly> | ahh, then the mfd would share out music, videos, etc right? |
| 02:01 | <thor_> | yup ... and do all the in the background stuff (cd ripping, dvd transcoding, etc.) |
| 02:02 | <billytwowilly> | that's cool. |
| 02:02 | <thor_> | well, that's the plan |
| 02:02 | <billytwowilly> | I'm off to bed, I just saw you active so I thought I'd ask. |
| 02:02 | <thor_> | yup, g'night |
| 02:02 | <billytwowilly> | I hope it all works out. |
| 02:02 | <billytwowilly> | cheers. |
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| 02:16 | <o_cee> | Chutt: did you commit the mythweather stuff? |
| 02:16 | <Chutt> | not yet |
| 02:16 | <Chutt> | getting to it :p |
| 02:17 | <o_cee> | it's not possible to put them in a seperate dir, right? think i looked at that back when i first the the theme |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | i don't think so |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | as it needs to override the default images |
| 02:17 | <o_cee> | yeah.. ah well |
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| 02:17 | <o_cee> | gets kinda crowded |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | i'll get it in cvs soon |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | got one more patch to go before i get to that |
| 02:21 | <o_cee> | okay |
| 02:21 | <o_cee> | just noticed something.. mythgallery doesn't seem to like foreign (swedish) characters in the dirnames.. |
| 02:22 | <o_cee> | it works, but its displayed with a square instead of the right char |
| 02:22 | <thor_> | probably an .ascii() versus .local8Bit() thing |
| 02:22 | <o_cee> | hmm, or a samba thing |
| 02:22 | <o_cee> | mythtv@dragon 2004 $ ls |
| 02:22 | <o_cee> | Omm?lning sovrum |
| 02:22 | <o_cee> | it's busted there as well |
| 02:22 | <o_cee> | nevermind then :) |
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| 02:24 | <ShockValue> | well, despite the spirits, ive gotten my remote working pretty well :) |
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| 02:32 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | the perl imdb stuff doesn't seem to work. |
| 02:32 | <thor_> | heh |
| 02:33 | <thor_> | I know nada about perl |
| 02:33 | <o_cee> | did anyone try the new mythweb backend status checkie thingie? |
| 02:33 | <thor_> | it changed again? |
| 02:33 | <o_cee> | maybe not |
| 02:33 | <o_cee> | but the original one |
| 02:34 | <o_cee> | i'm just getting: Warning at /home/mythtv/mythtvcvs/mythweb/includes/mythbackend.php, line 114: |
| 02:34 | <o_cee> | explode(): Empty delimiter. |
| 02:34 | <o_cee> | and other odd stuff |
| 02:34 | <thor_> | hmmm ... I'm in the middle of a couple of rebuilds ... :-) .... won't be able to check for a bit |
| 02:34 | <o_cee> | did you try it before? |
| 02:35 | <mdz> | o_cee: perhaps you didn't read -commits? |
| 02:35 | <thor_> | I know it worked at one point |
| 02:35 | <o_cee> | mdz: i'll re-read it.. hmm |
| 02:36 | <mdz> | o_cee: if you update mythweb you must update your backend |
| 02:36 | <o_cee> | it is |
| 02:36 | <Chutt> | mdz, familiar with perl at all? |
| 02:36 | <o_cee> | doing a distclean then |
| 02:36 | <mdz> | Chutt: yes |
| 02:36 | <Chutt> | have a minute? |
| 02:36 | <mdz> | yes |
| 02:36 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 02:36 | <mdz> | about that long :-> |
| 02:36 | <mdz> | bedtime soon |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | you see tim harvey's imdb thingie on mythtv-dev? |
| 02:37 | <o_cee> | sleep is overrated |
| 02:37 | <mdz> | no, but I'll look at it |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | it's not parsing options like it's supposed to |
| 02:37 | <mikegrb> | o_cee: indeed |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | i'm looking for the cause, but my perl's _real_ rusty |
| 02:37 | <o_cee> | perl is odd.. |
| 02:37 | <mdz> | Chutt: I don't see it in my current folder; how long ago? |
| 02:37 | <mdz> | you sure it was -dev? |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | yesterday |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | Tim Harvey |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | er, the 29th |
| 02:38 | <mdz> | hmm, that's today |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | well, it's almost 3 am here |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | :p |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | abstract IMDB queries, a reply to his original thread |
| 02:38 | <o_cee> | [mythtv][mythtv] [PATCH] abstract IMDB queries into external scripts |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | 'here's my follow up patch', yadda yadda yadda |
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| 02:40 | <mdz> | yeah, found it now |
| 02:40 | <mdz> | it's inside like 3 levels of tarballs |
| 02:40 | <Chutt> | yeah |
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| 02:41 | <mdz> | ah |
| 02:41 | <mdz> | I see the problem |
| 02:41 | <Chutt> | mythvideo's running it like: imdb.pl -M tv=no;video=no <video name> |
| 02:41 | <Chutt> | and it's not parsing the -M stuff |
| 02:41 | <mdz> | add colons after D, M and P in the getopt |
| 02:42 | <mdz> | oh, it's still broken |
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| 02:43 | <mdz> | what's it supposed to do? |
| 02:43 | <Chutt> | pull down the movie info for the given title |
| 02:44 | <Chutt> | well, pull down a list of possibly matching movies |
| 02:44 | <mdz> | so <video name> is a title string? |
| 02:44 | <mdz> | ah |
| 02:44 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 02:45 | <mdz> | ok, fixed it |
| 02:46 | <o_cee> | (me wonders how this guy can send in a script that doesn't work?) :) |
| 02:46 | <Chutt> | what's the fix? |
| 02:47 | <mdz> | emailed |
| 02:48 | <mdz> | I don't know exactly how it was intended to work, but I changed it to be more like it should work |
| 02:48 | <thor_> | Notable Quotables, here I come |
| 02:50 | <mdz> | -P doesn't seem to work |
| 02:50 | <mdz> | at least, I don't get any output from it for any of the movieids I tried |
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| 02:53 | <mdz> | Chutt: flaky connection? |
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| 02:53 | <Chutt2> | hrmph |
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| 02:54 | <mdz> | what the hell did that guy mean by "I've done some modeling, and I have a dog"? |
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| 02:54 | <o_cee> | heheh, no idea :) |
| 02:54 | <thor_> | I was wondering about that |
| 02:54 | <mikegrb> | means he smokes to much weed while sending emails |
| 02:54 | <Chutt2> | mdz, this doesn't work for me |
| 02:54 | <thor_> | since you responded with "removed debugging code", I figured it was some coding expression I'd never heard before |
| 02:55 | <mdz> | thor_: the first sentence in his email made just enough sense that I understood his problem |
| 02:55 | <Chutt2> | does P need a :? |
| 02:55 | <thor_> | heh |
| 02:55 | <mdz> | Chutt2: yes. I said it but didn't do it |
| 02:55 | <mdz> | Chutt2: I also sent a second patch which fixed the help() test |
| 02:56 | <mdz> | yeah, that was what broke -P. works now |
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| 02:56 | <Chutt2> | Use of uninitialized value in rindex at /usr/local/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl line 228. |
| 02:56 | <mdz> | thor_: I had hardcoded the backend IP to 127.0.0.1 so I could test it with my test backend rather than my real one |
| 02:56 | <Chutt2> | bunch of those :p |
| 02:57 | <mdz> | Chutt2: with what args? doesn't happen here |
| 02:57 | <Chutt2> | imdb.pl -M tv=no;video=no The Fellowship of the Ring.avi |
| 02:58 | <mdz> | Chutt2: you have the ';' quoted in the actual invocation, right? :-P |
| 02:58 | <Chutt2> | i have no idea |
| 02:58 | <mdz> | perl imdb.pl -M 'tv=no;video=no' "The Fellowship" |
| 02:58 | <mdz> | 0120737:Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, The (2001) |
| 02:58 | <mdz> | 0052829:Frosch mit der Maske, Der (1959) |
| 02:58 | <Chutt2> | apparently not |
| 02:59 | <Chutt2> | ok, so i need to add some quotes |
| 02:59 | <Chutt2> | to mythvideo |
| 03:00 | <thor_> | after escaping quotes in the movie title, o' course |
| 03:00 | <mdz> | that script doesn't even use perl's HTML parser |
| 03:00 | <mdz> | seems like it could just as easily be done inside mythvideo |
| 03:00 | <mdz> | thor_: there is no way to escape (single) quotes in the shell. it's funny like that. |
| 03:00 | <Chutt2> | yeah, but this way it's easier to replace if it breaks |
| 03:00 | <Chutt2> | oh |
| 03:01 | <Chutt2> | this is going to break on movie titles with single quotes in it? |
| 03:01 | <mdz> | if you use system(), yeah |
| 03:01 | <Chutt2> | it's using QProcess |
| 03:01 | <mdz> | if you use exec(), no |
| 03:01 | <Chutt2> | so i don't know what the hell it's doing |
| 03:01 | <mdz> | does QProcess use a shell? |
| 03:02 | <o_cee> | mdz: i'm still having problems with mythweb.. just recompiled myth with a distclean |
| 03:02 | <thor_> | I think it does a pipe, fork, system, cause you can get back output programmatically |
| 03:02 | <mdz> | o_cee: and installed it and restarted the backend? |
| 03:02 | <o_cee> | mdz: yeah.. |
| 03:02 | <thor_> | but that's just a guess |
| 03:03 | <mdz> | thor_: looks like it probably uses exec and not system because it explicitly says that things like environment variables aren't expanded |
| 03:03 | <o_cee> | mdz: and even tried running it ./mythbackend |
| 03:03 | <thor_> | ah |
| 03:03 | <mdz> | o_cee: because that's exactly what would happen if the backend didn't understand the version query |
| 03:04 | <mdz> | heh, less than an hour after the protocol version stuff went in, there's a patch to increment the version |
| 03:04 | <Chutt2> | it does indeed use qprocess |
| 03:04 | <Chutt2> | what patch? |
| 03:04 | <Chutt2> | erk |
| 03:04 | <Chutt2> | it does indeed use exec |
| 03:05 | <mdz> | Chutt2: Subject: [mythtv] [PATCH] Verson 2 - Duplicate Detection Methods |
| 03:05 | <Chutt2> | ah |
| 03:05 | <Chutt2> | there's another one, as well |
| 03:05 | <Chutt2> | but both are being held off until after the release |
| 03:05 | <mdz> | what does G.A.N.T stand for? |
| 03:06 | <thor_> | probably something swedish |
| 03:06 | <mdz> | couldn't the directory be called "gant" instead? ugh |
| 03:06 | <o_cee> | no idea, that's the name of the original artwork done by the guy who made them |
| 03:06 | <Chutt2> | i asked |
| 03:06 | <Chutt2> | he said no |
| 03:06 | <Chutt2> | :p |
| 03:06 | <o_cee> | if there'd be a "DisplayName" in theme.xml or something |
| 03:08 | <o_cee> | would also be nice with "Author" or somethign that'd show up when you pick themes |
| 03:08 | <o_cee> | and maybe "Description" :) |
| 03:08 | <Chutt2> | that's what knight- was working on |
| 03:08 | <mdz> | thor_: heh, did my remove-debug commit inspire yours? |
| 03:08 | <thor_> | yup |
| 03:08 | <thor_> | remembered a cout |
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| 03:09 | <Chutt2> | damnit |
| 03:09 | <Chutt2> | i can't get this stupid thing to escape properly |
| 03:09 | <mdz> | Chutt2: from the looks of QProcess, you shouldn't have to |
| 03:09 | <o_cee> | mdz: privmsg okay, and i'll show you the whole error i get? |
| 03:09 | <mdz> | o_cee: just send it to mythtv-dev |
| 03:10 | <mdz> | that way if anyone else is seeing the same thing, they'll find it |
| 03:10 | <Chutt2> | mdz, need to escape the tv=no;video=no |
| 03:10 | <Chutt2> | or whatnot |
| 03:10 | <Chutt2> | it's certainly not working |
| 03:10 | <o_cee> | hmm, maybe this is the thing.. |
| 03:10 | <o_cee> | Warning at /home/mythtv/mythtvcvs/mythweb/status.php, line 17: |
| 03:10 | <o_cee> | readfile(): URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration |
| 03:10 | <mdz> | Chutt2: if you start a "sleep 1000" or whatever inside a qprocess, does it execute "sh -c 'sleep 1000'" or just "sleep 1000"? |
| 03:11 | <mdz> | o_cee: that seems unrelated to my changes |
| 03:11 | <Chutt2> | i dunno |
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| 03:12 | <o_cee> | ah yeah i thought that status page was a version check page, but it's the backend status page thingie.. right |
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| 03:14 | <mdz> | ok, bedtime |
| 03:14 | <thor_> | g'night |
| 03:14 | <mdz> | night |
| 03:14 | <Chutt2> | later |
| 03:14 | <Chutt2> | thanks |
| 03:15 | <o_cee> | blergh, dammit |
| 03:15 | <Chutt2> | even though it's still not working from mythvideo :p |
| 03:15 | <o_cee> | mdz: don't you need a return; at the end of line 118 in mythbackend.php? i don't know anything about php tho :) |
| 03:21 | <o_cee> | anyway.. since my frontend works with my backend, and the frontend log says that the protocol check is ok (1), this is something wrong with mythweb |
| 03:24 | <o_cee> | also.. if i change protocol in mythweb, i get this in mythbackend, proving it's the right one.. |
| 03:24 | <o_cee> | 2004-01-30 09:24:37 MainServer::HandleVersion - Client speaks protocol version 0 but we speak 1! |
| 03:24 | <o_cee> | 2004-01-30 09:24:37 12 REJECT[]:[]1 |
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| 03:27 | <Chutt2> | try removing the explode($backend_sep |
| 03:27 | <Chutt2> | and just leave the backend_command2 part |
| 03:28 | <o_cee> | Wrong parameter count for explode() |
| 03:28 | <thor_> | feature request as bug |
| 03:28 | <thor_> | bah |
| 03:29 | <Chutt2> | i said, leave out the explode. |
| 03:29 | <o_cee> | oh |
| 03:29 | <o_cee> | $response = backend_command2("MYTH_PROTO_VERSION " . $our_version, $fp); |
| 03:29 | <o_cee> | Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: A |
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| 03:30 | <o_cee> | A as in ACCEPT? |
| 03:30 | <o_cee> | yeah, it is |
| 03:31 | <o_cee> | (got R if i changed mythweb protocolversion) |
| 03:31 | <Chutt2> | change the response[0] to just response |
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| 03:31 | <o_cee> | hehe |
| 03:31 | <o_cee> | Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: ACCEPT[]:[]1 |
| 03:32 | <thor_> | heh, there's still a #ifdef _OS_WIN32_ in audiooutput.h |
| 03:32 | <Chutt2> | print out $backend_sep in there somewhere |
| 03:33 | <o_cee> | hold on |
| 03:33 | <Chutt2> | in that function |
| 03:34 | <Chutt2> | ah |
| 03:34 | <Chutt2> | change $backend_sep to backend_sep in that function |
| 03:34 | <o_cee> | [][]:[] |
| 03:34 | <o_cee> | ? |
| 03:35 | <knight-> | any of you use svn? |
| 03:35 | <o_cee> | i'm getting the original file again |
| 03:35 | <Chutt2> | o_cee, what version of php are you using? |
| 03:36 | <o_cee> | one sec |
| 03:37 | <knight-> | what's the problem Chutt? |
| 03:38 | <o_cee> | 4.3.4 |
| 03:38 | <o_cee> | it works now, after removing that $ from the original line |
| 03:39 | * | o_cee is back (gone 13:12:40) |
| 03:39 | <knight-> | heh |
| 03:41 | <o_cee> | seems to be pretty recent, php 4.3.4 |
| 03:41 | <Chutt2> | it is |
| 03:41 | <Chutt2> | anyway, fixed in cvs |
| 03:42 | <o_cee> | okay, great :) |
| 03:42 | <knight-> | what was the problem? |
| 03:44 | <Chutt2> | wasn't using the right thing for the backend separator |
| 03:44 | <knight-> | for what though? |
| 03:46 | <Chutt2> | the protocol test. |
| 03:46 | <o_cee> | another thing that might cause headaches |
| 03:46 | <o_cee> | the new backend status proxy thingie |
| 03:46 | <o_cee> | readfile(): URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration |
| 03:47 | <o_cee> | i'm using pretty standard configurations, at least for gentoo |
| 03:47 | <knight-> | Chutt, protocol test? |
| 03:47 | <o_cee> | knight-: the frontend checks its version against the backend now |
| 03:47 | <knight-> | right |
| 03:47 | <knight-> | so you're updating mythweb to support that? |
| 03:47 | <o_cee> | the updated mythweb didn't work for me :) |
| 03:47 | <Chutt2> | already updated. |
| 03:47 | <knight-> | gotcha |
| 03:48 | <knight-> | bash |
| 03:48 | <o_cee> | mailing chris about that now |
| 03:49 | <Chutt2> | o_cee, you going to do anything else to the program playback screen? |
| 03:49 | <o_cee> | not at the moment at least |
| 03:49 | <o_cee> | why? |
| 03:50 | <Chutt2> | no reason |
| 03:50 | <Chutt2> | you're still using all the defaults, basically |
| 03:51 | <Chutt2> | heh |
| 03:51 | <o_cee> | hehe, yeah :) |
| 03:51 | <Chutt2> | need some snowflakes in the mythweather stuff |
| 03:51 | <Chutt2> | it's all rain drops |
| 03:51 | <o_cee> | yepp, i know :) |
| 03:51 | <o_cee> | but it'll have to work, it says below it what it's supposed to be.. |
| 03:53 | <o_cee> | there are no snowflakes in the original weather icons.. and he still haven't responded to my request about making ff/rew buttons.. hehe |
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| 03:55 | <knight-> | hey do you think it would be possible to share the overlay with mplayer at the same time? |
| 03:55 | <knight-> | i.e. grant mplayer a layer |
| 03:55 | <knight-> | perhaps with a pseudo device |
| 03:56 | <Chutt2> | not without X having a pseudo device. |
| 03:56 | <Chutt2> | and as it doesn't |
| 03:57 | <knight-> | no |
| 03:57 | <knight-> | i mean mythtv can register a device |
| 03:57 | <knight-> | mplayer talks to that device |
| 03:57 | <knight-> | mythtv mixes/blends, then outputs over X |
| 03:57 | <Chutt2> | no |
| 03:58 | <Chutt2> | not without myth being the x driver |
| 03:58 | <knight-> | why not? |
| 03:58 | <Chutt2> | you don't just register a device |
| 03:58 | <knight-> | we can make a skeleton module |
| 03:58 | <knight-> | sure we can :)\ |
| 03:58 | <Chutt2> | then you'd be dropping back to software rendering |
| 03:58 | <Chutt2> | and you might as well just do that |
| 03:58 | <knight-> | sad but true :) |
| 03:58 | <Chutt2> | and not even bother with the pseudo overlay |
| 03:59 | <knight-> | i'd still like to display my events, etc |
| 03:59 | <knight-> | scrollers |
| 03:59 | <Chutt2> | o_cee, your update's in CVS |
| 04:00 | <knight-> | Chutt, what about tapping into a xine or mplayer api? |
| 04:00 | <Chutt2> | both suck. |
| 04:00 | <knight-> | really? |
| 04:00 | <Chutt2> | really. |
| 04:00 | <knight-> | ok |
| 04:00 | <knight-> | I imagine this has been thought over many a times |
| 04:00 | <Chutt2> | mplayer doesn't have an api, really :p |
| 04:00 | <o_cee> | great |
| 04:00 | <Chutt2> | xinelib's slightly better |
| 04:00 | <Chutt2> | use mythtv's internal player |
| 04:00 | <Chutt2> | does most stuff |
| 04:01 | <knight-> | I'm surprised there isnt some semi-universal mpeg/avi decoding libraries out there |
| 04:01 | <Chutt2> | would do more, better, with some minor tweaking |
| 04:01 | <Chutt2> | there is, and i'm using it |
| 04:01 | <knight-> | libav? |
| 04:01 | <Chutt2> | yup |
| 04:01 | <knight-> | why are we relying on mplayer then? |
| 04:01 | <Chutt2> | who the hell says we're relying on mplayer? |
| 04:01 | <knight-> | hah |
| 04:02 | <knight-> | we are for mythvideo last i checked |
| 04:02 | <Chutt2> | it's the default video playback option for a secondary module. |
| 04:02 | <Chutt2> | you can use whatever player you want, including mythtv's internal one. |
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| 04:03 | <Chutt2> | don't you read the mailing lists at all? |
| 04:03 | <Chutt2> | this whole thing was discussed this past month |
| 04:03 | <Chutt2> | in great detail |
| 04:03 | <Chutt2> | too much detail, even |
| 04:03 | <knight-> | has that been in for a long time ? |
| 04:03 | <knight-> | yeah, i try to stay close to dev and commit lists |
| 04:03 | <Chutt2> | what been in |
| 04:03 | <knight-> | I'm surprised I let that slip by. I'm sure it was one of those thread topics I avoided. |
| 04:04 | <knight-> | in cvs |
| 04:04 | <Chutt2> | what in cvs? |
| 04:04 | <o_cee> | the ability to use myth's itnernal player |
| 04:04 | <knight-> | mythtv internal playback for secondary modules |
| 04:04 | <Chutt2> | 'mythtv <file> |
| 04:04 | <Chutt2> | has worked for generic file types ever since mythtv got mpeg2 playback |
| 04:05 | <knight-> | hmm odd |
| 04:05 | <knight-> | well, i gotta try that :) |
| 04:05 | <o_cee> | btw, does the mpeg2 transcoder geoff is working on in any usable state? |
| 04:05 | <o_cee> | oooh, nice sentence.. :) |
| 04:05 | <Chutt2> | i wouldn't know |
| 04:05 | <Chutt2> | don't use the transcoding stuff |
| 04:06 | <o_cee> | okay, haven't seen him commiting anything on it for a while, so i thought maybe he was finished ;) |
| 04:07 | <Chutt2> | he tends to do dev on his own tree a lot before sending in patches/committing things |
| 04:08 | <Chutt2> | knight, anyway, as i said, the internal player works for most stuff, but needs bits of tweaking. it's really only tested on mpeg files |
| 04:08 | <knight-> | ahh |
| 04:09 | <Chutt2> | but all the codecs are there |
| 04:09 | <Chutt2> | it's mainly just making sure seeking works properly, etc |
| 04:12 | <thor_> | bah, I think when you type mutex()->lock; followed immediately by mutex()->lock:, it's time to go to bed |
| 04:13 | <o_cee> | heheh :) |
| 04:14 | <Chutt2> | thor, bah, deadlocks are fun |
| 04:15 | <knight-> | heh |
| 04:15 | <o_cee> | weh, now the backend status page works in mythweb as well :) needed allow_url_fopen in php.ini |
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| 04:23 | <o_cee> | Chutt2: how're you planning doing the clock stuff? i mean if i could prepare myself |
| 04:24 | <o_cee> | an analog clock could be really cool |
| 04:26 | <o_cee> | send you a file now :) |
| 04:36 | <Chutt2> | i dunno |
| 04:37 | <o_cee> | analog arms would look cool with a background like the one i just sent |
| 04:37 | <knight-> | show me :) |
| 04:37 | <o_cee> | bah |
| 04:38 | <o_cee> | it's a background for a docklet |
| 04:40 | * | o_cee is away: Gone |
| 04:40 | <o_cee> | later all |
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| 06:53 | <Peit|work> | acrck |
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| 10:46 | <livesNbox> | hey guys -- i'm going to buy a wintv pvr -- does it matter if I get the PCI or USB version ? |
| 10:48 | <_rkulagow> | only if you plan on using it on linux. |
| 10:48 | <livesNbox> | hahaha.. |
| 10:48 | <livesNbox> | yes I do. |
| 10:48 | <livesNbox> | should I go PCI then ? |
| 10:49 | <_rkulagow> | then don't buy that card, because the PVR is _not_ the PVR-250. there are no drivers. |
| 10:49 | <livesNbox> | that's what I meant, sorry.. wintv pvr 250 |
| 10:49 | <_rkulagow> | the HOWTO has an updated section. |
| 10:49 | <_rkulagow> | talks all about hardware capture cards. |
| 10:49 | <livesNbox> | i wish someone would post "buy this stuff and it will work the best" |
| 10:50 | <o_cee> | get pvr2/350 |
| 10:50 | <o_cee> | and only intel parts |
| 10:50 | <o_cee> | no via or amd |
| 10:50 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 10:50 | <_rkulagow> | best for me doesn't mean best for you. |
| 10:50 | <o_cee> | that's my advice |
| 10:50 | <livesNbox> | what's the difference between pvr2/350 and pvr/250 ? |
| 10:50 | * | bdale grumbles at his aging Sony DirecTV receiver... which seems to stop listening on the serial port every few days and needs a hard (pull the power plug, not just use the soft-power switch) reset to recover... grrr. |
| 10:50 | <livesNbox> | looks like the 350 just has a hardware decoder |
| 10:50 | <o_cee> | you better do some reading |
| 10:51 | <livesNbox> | i've done days and days of reading already |
| 10:51 | <kvandivo> | and you don't know if it matters if you go usb or pci? |
| 10:51 | <livesNbox> | i've installed myth 4 times and linux 6 times in the past week :) |
| 10:51 | <livesNbox> | i didn't see anywhere that said "THE USB VERSION WON'T WORK" |
| 10:52 | <_rkulagow> | are you sure? |
| 10:52 | <bdale> | you want the pci version |
| 10:52 | <livesNbox> | ::sigh:: |
| 10:52 | <livesNbox> | thanks bdale |
| 10:52 | <_rkulagow> | did you look at section 3 of the HOWTO? |
| 10:52 | <_rkulagow> | i don't see how "Hardware known NOT to work and other issues." under hardware prerequisites could be any clearer. |
| 10:53 | <bdale> | pvr-250 or pvr-350 ... there are other cards that people are working on ivtv support for, but those are the two principal targets for that driver |
| 10:54 | <livesNbox> | bdale: ok -- and the main difference is the 350 has a hardware decoder ? |
| 10:54 | <Rince> | *nod* |
| 10:54 | <Rince> | and radio tuner |
| 10:54 | <bdale> | yes, maybe the 350 has an fm tuner too and the 250 doesn't? don't recall. I have a 350 and two 250s here, but only one 250 in use at the moment |
| 10:54 | <livesNbox> | Rince: does that mean that the 350 will work as an outgoing video device too ? |
| 10:55 | <Rince> | it does |
| 10:55 | <Rince> | livesNbox: I use the 350 in an mini-itx box. I have it directly connected via Composite-Video to the TV. There I am running X11 with MythTV on it |
| 10:55 | <livesNbox> | i think the 350 is the one I'd want |
| 10:56 | <livesNbox> | can I go svideo the whole way ? |
| 10:56 | <livesNbox> | in and out |
| 10:56 | <Rince> | you should, yes |
| 10:56 | <bdale> | yes |
| 10:56 | <bdale> | if you're only buying one card, the 350 isn't much more expensive and gives you options |
| 10:56 | <livesNbox> | yeah like $50 more |
| 10:56 | <bdale> | I'm not aware of any downside to a 350 vs a 250 |
| 10:57 | <livesNbox> | will it do simultaneous in and out |
| 10:57 | <livesNbox> | ? |
| 10:57 | <bdale> | (other than cash) |
| 10:57 | <bdale> | yes |
| 10:57 | <livesNbox> | seems like the way to go. |
| 10:57 | <livesNbox> | if I install myth will it (in theory) work out of the box ? |
| 10:58 | <bdale> | for good 350 support, you'll want the latest released ivtv driver, and either mythtv from cvs or the next stable release of mythtv... the latest release of mythtv will work, but there have been significant improvements in 350 support since then that are only in CVS right now |
| 10:58 | <livesNbox> | ok.. |
| 10:58 | <bdale> | capture support has been ok for a while, it's playback support that was recently improved |
| 10:59 | <livesNbox> | ok.. so this will eliminate me from having to buy a videocard too, right? |
| 10:59 | <livesNbox> | I have an oboard one |
| 10:59 | <livesNbox> | but I need another one with TV out |
| 11:00 | <livesNbox> | i'm "borrowing" one from my other computer at the moment. |
| 11:00 | <bdale> | also, even if you decide to use some other approach in the long run, starting with knoppmyth is the quickest path to having something working that I know of to play with and figure out what's what. |
| 11:01 | <livesNbox> | yeah I tried knoppmyth last night |
| 11:01 | <livesNbox> | but right now I have an ati radeon card which is hard to get working |
| 11:01 | <livesNbox> | it played fine on my monitor |
| 11:01 | <livesNbox> | just not on my tv ou |
| 11:01 | <livesNbox> | out |
| 11:01 | <livesNbox> | and never did get the sound to work |
| 11:01 | <bdale> | right, ntsc out is a pain with most cards |
| 11:01 | <livesNbox> | i have had myth working though... |
| 11:01 | <livesNbox> | damn there's like nowhere to buy this card in my area :( |
| 11:02 | <livesNbox> | i can find the 250.. but not the 350. |
| 11:02 | <bdale> | I got an agp card based on an sis 315 working well for NTSC output, but have since switched to an nvidia card with dvi to drive my new display device |
| 11:03 | <bdale> | a few notes on my blog, though I'm not really into lots of detail on what I did there... |
| 11:03 | <livesNbox> | where's it at ? |
| 11:03 | <bdale> | http://www.gag.com/cgi-bin/blosxom/bdale/pvr |
| 11:04 | <livesNbox> | so the 350 has a remote too.. how's that work? |
| 11:05 | <bdale> | both the 250 and 350 come with an IR detector on a cable that plugs into the card, and a remote control |
| 11:05 | <bdale> | the interface is supported by lirc |
| 11:06 | <livesNbox> | cool. |
| 11:06 | <livesNbox> | i really need something to control my dishnetwork box. |
| 11:07 | <bdale> | I use a serial cable to drive my oldish directv receiver, I gather many newer satellite receivers don't have a wired command interface like that and require you cobble up or buy an IR transmitter to hang on your mythtv box so you can command the other box(es) with IR... never been there, personally |
| 11:07 | <livesNbox> | yeah.. I'm not sure -- I've only checked one of my recievers. |
| 11:08 | <livesNbox> | but it didn't have a serial connection. |
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| 11:11 | <bdale> | time to maintain the pretense that I'm gainfully employed for a few hours... have fun. ;-) |
| 11:11 | <livesNbox> | thanks, see ya |
