| --- | Log | opened Wed Jan 28 00:00:02 2004 |
| --- | Day | changed Wed Jan 28 2004 |
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| 00:00 | <Netslayer> | anyone checkout CVS in the last few minutes? this is kind of mysterious |
| 00:01 | <Truin> | well, the key is being able to have one tuner per room, and then some. |
| 00:01 | <Netslayer> | although wouldn't put it past my connection |
| 00:01 | <thor_> | works fine here |
| 00:01 | <Truin> | works for me. |
| 00:01 | <Netslayer> | great..probably the rain |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | i'm checking in stuff |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | and i've been doing diffs for the past twenty minutes |
| 00:02 | <Netslayer> | alright heh I believe ya |
| 00:02 | <Truin> | Netslayer: got wireless? |
| 00:03 | <Netslayer> | well i'm trying to update both machines, one is wireless. Both can connect with teh login, but neither can download |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | well, wait a few minutes |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | i'm doing a big commit right now :p |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | and you'd likely get a broken checkout, even if it did complete |
| 00:03 | <Netslayer> | great heh, guinea pigs |
| 00:04 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 00:04 | <Chutt> | just GANT and the rest of the japanese patch |
| 00:04 | <billytwowilly> | sweet. |
| 00:04 | * | billytwowilly goes to look at commit logs |
| 00:04 | <billytwowilly> | nm;) |
| 00:04 | <billytwowilly> | not interesting to me after all;) |
| 00:04 | <Truin> | heh |
| 00:04 | <Netslayer> | thanks for warning me heh |
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| 00:06 | <billytwowilly> | so we can now actually have all of the menus in japanese characters? |
| 00:06 | <Chutt> | and everything else, yeah |
| 00:06 | <billytwowilly> | that is actually pretty cool, if completely incomprehensible to me, but still cool;) |
| 00:07 | <billytwowilly> | anyhoo, cheers |
| 00:07 | * | billytwowilly is going to lift weights |
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| 00:11 | <cmorgan> | Chutt: just mailed the patch to you that should fix the playback issues |
| 00:11 | <mdz> | dammit |
| 00:11 | <mdz> | I just compiled all of mythtv without remembering to save my one-line change to mythcontext.h |
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| 00:12 | <thor_> | I searched the list for a similar problem to no avail... <--- yeah, whatever |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | cmorgan, thanks |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | mdz, what change? |
| 00:13 | <mdz> | Chutt: protocol version, if you know a better place to put it |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 00:21 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:21 | <Chutt> | i need to thread off the livetv buffer file unlink |
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| 00:23 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | i think i know how i want to do the theme translation stuff now |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | just have to write a couple little programs to automate the conversion |
| 00:24 | <cmorgan> | night |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | cmorgan, i'll test your patch |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | just compiling other stuff at the moment |
| 00:24 | <cmorgan> | Chutt: alright. any issues just email me ;-) |
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| 00:26 | <Netslayer> | interesting a blank commit http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-commits/2004-January/002878.html |
| 00:26 | <Netslayer> | or are u drawing a line on purpose heh |
| 00:26 | <mdz> | Chutt: hey, you have an ati tv wonder ve, right? |
| 00:26 | <thor_> | blank commits are new directories |
| 00:27 | <Netslayer> | huh, never seen that before |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | not anymore |
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| 00:27 | <mdz> | oh |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | i can't find mine |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | it's here somewhere... |
| 00:28 | <mdz> | do you remember what tuner type it had? |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | philips ntsc |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | type 2, isn't it? |
| 00:28 | <Netslayer> | i'm running one in the other room |
| 00:28 | <mdz> | tuner(bttv): type forced to 2 (Philips NTSC (FI1236,FM1236 and compatibles)) [insmod] |
| 00:28 | <mdz> | it gets autodetected as "Temic PAL* auto (4006 FN5)" |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | right |
| 00:28 | <mdz> | wanted to make sure I'm forcing it to the right thing |
| 00:29 | <Chutt> | that's the standard 'my channels are off by one and look like shit' bug |
| 00:30 | <mdz> | that card sure is cheap |
| 00:30 | <mdz> | but the lack of an audio line in is annoying |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | and it doesn't look as nice as slightly more expensive cards |
| 00:31 | <mdz> | a friend of mine bought two of them for a system I'm helping him build |
| 00:32 | <mdz> | for less than the price of one wintv |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | they _are_ cheap |
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| 00:34 | <Netslayer> | what's funny is that in windows I could never get the card to record at 720x480 properly, and it runs almost perfectly in my slave nux backend |
| 00:34 | <Netslayer> | think i paid $30 for it at best buy like 3 years ago |
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| 00:35 | <Netslayer> | Chutt, are u done the commits for tonight or should i wait? |
| 00:36 | <thor_> | it's that cheap Canadian dollar |
| 00:36 | <Chutt> | i'm not done, but it should be safe to update |
| 00:36 | <Netslayer> | heh |
| 00:36 | <Netslayer> | actually, it's not cheap anymore :-/ |
| 00:36 | <thor_> | well, not as cheap |
| 00:37 | <Netslayer> | is gant replacing blue as the default? getting that feeling with the commits |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | not yet |
| 00:38 | * | Netslayer loves gant |
| 00:38 | <mdz> | I can't seem to get it to tune properly though. that, or he's disconnected something since I left |
| 00:38 | <mdz> | I'm trying to finish setting it up remotely |
| 00:39 | <Chutt> | should work ok with tuner type2 |
| 00:39 | <thor_> | BAH! |
| 00:39 | <thor_> | wnat to erase from the front of a std::vector |
| 00:39 | <Chutt> | pop_front |
| 00:39 | <Chutt> | ? |
| 00:39 | <thor_> | ok |
| 00:40 | <Chutt> | iirc |
| 00:40 | <Chutt> | been awhile since i used a normal vector |
| 00:40 | <Aridhol> | has anyone setup mythtv with a matrox g550? |
| 00:40 | <mdz> | it records a mostly green frame with some noise at the top |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | mdz, it's in pal mode somewhere |
| 00:41 | <mdz> | Chutt: that's what I initially thought, but I changed it to PAL and it looks different |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | thor, v.erase(v.begin()) |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | mdz, the tuner, or the setting in mythtv? |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | unpatched 0.13? =) |
| 00:41 | <mdz> | v4lctl and ffmpeg actually |
| 00:42 | <Netslayer> | interesting, "Myth_Video_Conference_Plugin" but of course i could only call myself at the momment |
| 00:42 | <mdz> | and it's running the debs, of course =) |
| 00:42 | <thor_> | I have a reference to where I want to erase to like: v.erase(v_begin(), my_reference), but my_reference is an integer and not an iterator ... |
| 00:43 | <Chutt> | an index int, or data from the thing? |
| 00:43 | <thor_> | index int |
| 00:44 | <Chutt> | dunno |
| 00:44 | <thor_> | .at(my_reference) returns a reference, not an iterator |
| 00:44 | <Chutt> | right |
| 00:44 | <Chutt> | use a different container class? |
| 00:44 | <thor_> | as does operator[] |
| 00:44 | <thor_> | heh |
| 00:44 | <thor_> | probably fastest |
| 00:44 | <Chutt> | something in Qt may be better |
| 00:44 | <thor_> | QValueVector here I come ... |
| 00:45 | <mdz> | I can switch the norm with v4lctl, and it shows it changed, but something's not going right |
| 00:45 | <mdz> | which is why I asked about the tuner type |
| 00:46 | <Netslayer> | heh gosh that's hilarious, 7 emails from the same guy on the dev list |
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| 00:53 | <thor_> | well, that worked |
| 00:53 | <thor_> | awesome! |
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| 00:54 | <thor_> | me playing daap audio streams |
| 00:54 | <thor_> | he he |
| 00:54 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:54 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 00:54 | <thor_> | music there, sound here |
| 00:54 | <thor_> | still amazes me |
| 00:55 | <thor_> | now, to seek! |
| 00:55 | <Truin> | "on a clear disk, you can seek forever." |
| 00:55 | <Truin> | sorry, couldn't resist. |
| 00:56 | * | Netslayer snickers |
| 00:57 | <Netslayer> | hey thor if i installed the mfd, what functionality does it take over right now? It replaces the music plugin? |
| 00:57 | <thor_> | not unless you consider telnet a mmusic replacement |
| 00:58 | <thor_> | :-) |
| 00:58 | <Netslayer> | auh i think i get it |
| 00:58 | <tmk> | and i do.. |
| 00:58 | <thor_> | there's no client at the moment |
| 00:58 | <Truin> | I could sit and listen to telnet all day.... |
| 00:59 | <Netslayer> | isn't telnet like ssh? |
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| 00:59 | <thor_> | but you can telnet into it |
| 00:59 | <thor_> | and make it do stuff |
| 00:59 | <Truin> | Netslayer: uh, yeah, without the encryption. |
| 01:01 | <_rkulagow> | is the "This is an autoresponder. I'll never see your message." guy off the -users mailing list yet? |
| 01:01 | <thor_> | This is an autoresponder. I'll never see your message. |
| 01:01 | <Chutt> | what guy? |
| 01:01 | <Truin> | lmao |
| 01:04 | <_rkulagow> | "mythtv-users@neuon.com" -> i've seen a few of those from him/her. |
| 01:06 | <Aridhol> | does anyone know where i can get the ivtv-cvs ebuilds? |
| 01:07 | <Truin> | thor_: mfd? So, what is it? A daemon, obviously, and you mentioned something about being able to telnet to it? I'm assuming 'it' is the pvr? |
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| 01:11 | <thor_> | it is the front end |
| 01:11 | <Truin> | a new replacement front-end? |
| 01:12 | <thor_> | sort of |
| 01:12 | <Truin> | kewl. |
| 01:12 | <Rince> | morning |
| 01:12 | <Truin> | hey Rince. |
| 01:12 | <thor_> | thing that keeps running even if the user is somewhere else (cd ripping, dvd transcoding, etc.) |
| 01:13 | <Truin> | ah |
| 01:14 | <thor_> | http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/mfd/README?content-type=text%2Fplain&rev=1.9 |
| 01:16 | <o_cee> | Fix the image cache for multiple directories in a theme (ie, GANT). <-- does that mean i can put the mythmusic stuff back into /mythmusic ? |
| 01:17 | <Netslayer> | thor, might give that a compile tonight |
| 01:17 | <Netslayer> | sound cool |
| 01:17 | <Truin> | thor_: looks sweet. Should be much easier to manage/develop plugins with the mfd. |
| 01:17 | <thor_> | have a box with iTunes on it ? |
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| 01:19 | <Netslayer> | um nope, if u need a tester to just sit here and play music heh, i can do that |
| 01:19 | <thor_> | if you have iTunes on the same lan, it automagically see all your mythmusic content when you start the mfd |
| 01:21 | <Netslayer> | kinda lost.. iTunes creates a shared dir on windows? and the mfd recognizes it like samba? |
| 01:22 | <thor_> | nope, iTunes speaks DAAP, and the mfd speaks DAAP, and they both speak Rendezvous |
| 01:22 | <thor_> | (DAAP is like http) |
| 01:22 | <Truin> | nice. My room mate has itunes. I should check that out. |
| 01:23 | <Netslayer> | oh ic |
| 01:23 | <thor_> | would be nice to know if it works _anywhere_ else ... |
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| 01:23 | <Truin> | I'll try playing around with it, will get back to ya. |
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| 01:24 | <thor_> | k, thanks |
| 01:24 | <Truin> | right now, it's home time. Been a long day, I'm ready to go home and crack open a beer. |
| 01:24 | <Netslayer> | i might also, depending on how long it takes me to compile cvs |
| 01:24 | <Truin> | Night, guys! |
| 01:24 | <thor_> | night |
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| 01:58 | <thor_> | ogg seek is pissed |
| 01:58 | <thor_> | ^^ that's an ogg error message |
| 01:58 | <thor_> | :-) |
| 01:59 | <Rince> | nice |
| 02:01 | <o_cee> | thor_: the volume thingie in mm, is it possible to just make it a textlabel wich says like "89%" and so on.. haven't looked at it at all |
| 02:02 | <Aridhol> | does anyone know of a better gentoo + pvr250 + mythtv guide than the one on the gentoo forums? it's not working for me |
| 02:02 | <Aridhol> | + 2.6.1 kernel |
| 02:02 | <thor_> | possible, but would require code change (of course) .... you can easily make the display left right ... |
| 02:02 | <o_cee> | the one on mythtv.org |
| 02:02 | <o_cee> | okay.. just preparing you for my requests, muheheheh :) |
| 02:02 | <thor_> | yup |
| 02:02 | <o_cee> | i think that'll be easier, not take up as much space |
| 02:02 | <o_cee> | also |
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| 02:03 | <o_cee> | a timeline would be nice as well |
| 02:03 | <thor_> | could be a really small image of some dots somewhere |
| 02:03 | <o_cee> | for the current song |
| 02:03 | <thor_> | yup |
| 02:03 | <thor_> | just an orientation value |
| 02:03 | <Aridhol> | does it work a lot better with kernel 2.4? |
| 02:04 | <o_cee> | Aridhol: everything does. |
| 02:05 | <Aridhol> | heh ok |
| 02:06 | <o_cee> | hmm, microsoft advertises .net on sf.net.. hmmm :) |
| 02:08 | <thor_> | they advertised unix services for windows on /. |
| 02:09 | <o_cee> | heh |
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| 02:12 | <Chutt> | o_cee, you can try to put stuff in mythmusic/ |
| 02:12 | <o_cee> | cool |
| 02:12 | <o_cee> | i just made title_dvd_setup.png |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | but i think that if you want to override the image |
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| 02:12 | <Chutt> | without changing the music-ui.xml or whatnot |
| 02:12 | <o_cee> | mailing it to you |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | it needs to be in the same place (ie, not in a directory) |
| 02:12 | <o_cee> | yeah |
| 02:12 | <o_cee> | like with mythweather |
| 02:13 | <Chutt> | you see my changes to the menu? :p |
| 02:13 | <Chutt> | i was just messing around |
| 02:13 | <o_cee> | yeah, no biggie :) just diffed them and checked |
| 02:13 | <o_cee> | will take a look at the tv very soon |
| 02:14 | <o_cee> | str BackgroundColor=darkgray <-- where's that one seen? haven't really messed with that file much:) |
| 02:15 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 02:15 | <o_cee> | heh |
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| 02:15 | <Chutt> | i was just changing random things when i was trying to get the button background darker |
| 02:15 | <o_cee> | hehehe, okay :) |
| 02:19 | <o_cee> | hmm. the darkening of the background doesn't work on "1", and not "D" anymore either..? |
| 02:19 | <o_cee> | and i don't have any selectionbar anymore :) |
| 02:19 | <o_cee> | hmm.. |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | heh, no selection bar here, either |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | did you forget to send it to me? |
| 02:20 | <o_cee> | before, it used the one in /default |
| 02:20 | <o_cee> | guess that changed with your cache changes? |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | possibly |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | i'll look into it tomorrow |
| 02:20 | <o_cee> | okay |
| 02:21 | <Chutt> | need to go to sleep |
| 02:21 | <o_cee> | yepp :) |
| 02:21 | <o_cee> | dream happy dreams |
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| 02:45 | <Chutt> | nevermind, fixed that bug |
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| 07:09 | <CaCtus491> | evening! |
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| 09:11 | <kees-jan> | Hi |
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| 11:19 | <Rince> | evening |
| 11:20 | <Slaytanic> | Hello |
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| 11:46 | <Rince> | Hmm... I seem to do seomthing wrong at transcoding. I would like to "cut out" the commercials, but when I tell the machine to transcode, the record gets splitty and without sound. Is there a way to prevent the quality but just to cut out the commercials? (and maybe to split one movie in different parts?) |
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| 12:01 | <_rkulagow> | ick. i just looked at GANT, and on my frontend an ongoing recording is orange, on a dark grey background, with a blue highlight bar. that's pretty low contrast. |
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| 12:05 | <Chutt> | the highlight bar needs replacing |
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| 12:29 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:29 | <Chutt> | the knoppmyth people made it possible to upgrade people's installations to 0.13 |
| 12:30 | <Chutt> | talk about timely releases |
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| 12:44 | <Slaytanic> | Anyone who can help me with mythfilldatabase? |
| 12:45 | <Slaytanic> | I'm trying to do a --file import of an XML tv listing, and I get: Ignoring invalid TimeOffset Adjusting program database end times... |
| 12:45 | <Slaytanic> | And "0 replacements made" |
| 12:45 | <Rince> | 0 replacements made is ok |
| 12:45 | <Rince> | does it get filled at all? |
| 12:45 | <Slaytanic> | Doesn't look like it... |
| 12:46 | <Slaytanic> | I'll check again, it didn't the previous x number of times... :/ |
| 12:46 | <Rince> | just a minute |
| 12:46 | <Rince> | how often comes the ignoring invalid.. thingie? |
| 12:46 | <Slaytanic> | Nopes, program guide is empty... |
| 12:47 | <sfr> | Slaytanic: 'Ignoring invalid TimeOffset' could cause all program times to be off by X hours but they will get imported nonetheless. |
| 12:47 | <Slaytanic> | Just once, and every time I run mythfilldatabase --file with my pre-hacked XML file. |
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| 12:47 | <Slaytanic> | Oh, ok. |
| 12:48 | <Slaytanic> | SO maybe there's something wrong with the XML file? But it's not complaining... WHat kind of file does it expect with --file, I assumed it expected a XMLTV file? |
| 12:48 | <Slaytanic> | Meaning XMLTV formatted XML file... |
| 12:49 | <sfr> | how did you start mythfilldatabase? |
| 12:49 | <Slaytanic> | It says "mythfilldatabase --file is an option if there isn't an XMLTV grabber for your country, but you do have an XML formatted listings file created by some other program." in the manual. |
| 12:49 | <Slaytanic> | mythfilldatabase --file 0 -1 myfile.xml |
| 12:50 | <Slaytanic> | --file <sourceid> <offset> <xmlfile> |
| 12:50 | <Slaytanic> | sourceid is an integer, right? I only have one card, guess it should be 0? |
| 12:50 | <Chutt> | it should be whatever it is in the database |
| 12:51 | <sfr> | usually it's 1 for a single tuner setup |
| 12:51 | <Slaytanic> | Okey, lemme try that. |
| 12:53 | <Slaytanic> | Didn't seem to help... :/ |
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| 12:54 | <sfr> | Slaytanic: so check what is set in the db |
| 12:54 | <Slaytanic> | YEah, I'm trying... Just installed phpmyadmin. |
| 12:57 | <sfr> | afaik it's set in cardinput |
| 12:57 | <Slaytanic> | Ok, I'll check manuallt. |
| 12:57 | <Slaytanic> | manuallY |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | or just the sourceid value in videosource |
| 12:58 | <Slaytanic> | THanks, it said sourceif 4. |
| 12:58 | <Slaytanic> | sourceiD... Excuse my poor spelling, I'm on my laptop. |
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| 12:59 | <Slaytanic> | Still no error message... Lemme see if I get this correctly. |
| 13:00 | <Slaytanic> | I've set up the card and the input... Can't get any TV listing to work over here, so I'm using an XMLTV formatted file that I've prepared. |
| 13:00 | <Slaytanic> | I import it with mythfilldatabase --file 4 -1 file.xml |
| 13:00 | <Slaytanic> | It says |
| 13:00 | <Slaytanic> | $ mythfilldatabase --file 4 -1 xmltv3.cgi |
| 13:00 | <Slaytanic> | ### bypassing grabbers, reading directly from file |
| 13:00 | <Slaytanic> | Ignoring invalid TimeOffset Adjusting program database end times... |
| 13:00 | <Slaytanic> | 0 replacements made. |
| 13:00 | <Slaytanic> | I enter mythtv and check the program guide, and it's empty... |
| 13:00 | <Slaytanic> | Is there a step I might have missed? |
| 13:00 | <sfr> | how did you define your channels? |
| 13:01 | <Slaytanic> | Good question, I thought mythfilldatabase did that? If not, where do I do that? |
| 13:01 | <Slaytanic> | I haven |
| 13:01 | <Slaytanic> | I haven't set any frequencies anywhere... |
| 13:02 | <Chutt> | channel section in the xmltv file |
| 13:02 | <Chutt> | or from xawtv's config file |
| 13:02 | <Chutt> | or from defining it manually |
| 13:02 | <sfr> | Slaytanic: then i'd try 'mythfilldatabase --manual --preset --file 4 -1 file.xml' |
| 13:03 | <Chutt> | what's with -1 for an offset? |
| 13:03 | <Slaytanic> | Ok, thanks guys, I'll try both methods... |
| 13:03 | <sfr> | Slaytanic: read the --help output of what the options do |
| 13:03 | <Slaytanic> | To remove all data. |
| 13:03 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 13:03 | <AridWrk> | does anyone have a gentoo + 2.6.1 + pvr250 solution working? I am having troubles |
| 13:03 | <Chutt> | don't use 2.6 |
| 13:04 | <AridWrk> | doh |
| 13:09 | <Slaytanic> | Hmmm, xawtv gives me a segfault when I run it... Common problem? I installed Myth through knoppmyth... |
| 13:09 | <sfr> | might be you are missing some fonts |
| 13:10 | <Rince> | another bad question ,-) |
| 13:10 | <Slaytanic> | Trying to read what it says on the TV... "Cannot convert string "-"-ledfixed" something... Yeah, and something about a font. |
| 13:11 | <Rince> | is here anyone using PVR350 with TV-Out and watching dvds? |
| 13:11 | <Rince> | what are you using then? |
| 13:11 | <Rince> | mplayer seems to have problems to sync audio with video... |
| 13:12 | <Slaytanic> | I've read about missing fonts somewhere, it has to be a FAQ... Can't find the answer now though, so I ask you... :) What fonts do I need to install? |
| 13:13 | <sfr> | you might find them on the xawtv website, or simply use debian ;) |
| 13:13 | <Slaytanic> | I am running debian... :) What's the name of the font package? |
| 13:13 | <Slaytanic> | ledfixed-medium, maybe? |
| 13:14 | <sfr> | hm, when i installed xawtv once it just worked |
| 13:14 | <sfr> | also on debian |
| 13:14 | <pmowry> | Rince: I'm just about to give it a try. I've read about a plug-in for mplayer to use the PVR-350's tv-out. Do you have that? |
| 13:14 | <Slaytanic> | Okey... Will try to reinstall xawtv using apt-get... |
| 13:15 | <Slaytanic> | tv-fonts was the package... |
| 13:17 | <Slaytanic> | Oh great, now xawtv dies with a segfault WITHOUT an error msg... :/ Bleh. |
| 13:19 | <Slaytanic> | Gonna try installing the latest version... |
| 13:19 | <sfr> | if all you want to do is set up your channels, then using mythfilldatabase should work as well |
| 13:20 | <Slaytanic> | But I have no idea what freqs the channels are at... :/ |
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| 13:21 | <sfr> | you don't need to know that, only the channel name, e.g. they are named like S5, SE15 here |
| 13:22 | <Slaytanic> | Okey... Just ran scantv to detect the channels, but it didn't find anything... But I don't need scantv to configure myth, right? |
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| 13:23 | <sfr> | not scantv but a working antenna |
| 13:24 | <_rkulagow> | i was just thinking of something. if i have a PVR-250 recording which is being commercial flagged and i delete it, i don't believe that the nice'd mythbackend exits immediately. what happens to all the entries that it's been adding to the recordedmarkup table? hasn't the delete action cleared all those entries up until that point but not any of the new ones that are being added by the nice'd mythbackend? |
| 13:24 | <Slaytanic> | Of course. :) The cable is connected already... |
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| 13:26 | <Slaytanic> | Whoah, the tv guide works! Thanks a lot!! |
| 13:27 | <Slaytanic> | I entered the channel freqs manually from my cable providers list... |
| 13:27 | <Slaytanic> | Now let's see if live TV works. |
| 13:28 | <Slaytanic> | Hmmm, didn |
| 13:28 | <Slaytanic> | didnt work... |
| 13:28 | <Slaytanic> | Black screen, that's it. |
| 13:29 | <sfr> | a faq. you (probably) have a problem with your soundcard |
| 13:29 | <Slaytanic> | Guess so... PLaying mp3:s worked just a few mins ago... |
| 13:30 | <kc135> | Slaytanic, are you usinga pvr-x50? |
| 13:30 | <Slaytanic> | Yeah, 350. |
| 13:31 | <sfr> | no wonder xawtv segfaulted. it doesn't work with a pvr250/350 |
| 13:31 | <kc135> | have you tried test_ioctl -p 0 |
| 13:31 | <Slaytanic> | I was just gonna ask you folks about that... I have tv-out on my geforce gfx card, but how do I activate mythtv output on the PVR350 output? |
| 13:31 | <Slaytanic> | sfr: Duh, wish I knew that. ;) |
| 13:31 | <Slaytanic> | kc: WIll do. |
| 13:31 | <kc135> | have you got output working on your monitor? |
| 13:32 | <Slaytanic> | So far, only TV-out from the Geforce card is working... And only in b/w, which is pretty frustrating. :/ |
| 13:32 | <killerbun> | which contry ? |
| 13:33 | <kc135> | try testing the input on 0 through 5 |
| 13:33 | <killerbun> | properly need to set it to to pal |
| 13:33 | <killerbun> | ;) |
| 13:33 | <kc135> | my prv 350 works on input 4 |
| 13:33 | <Slaytanic> | I'm in Sweden... |
| 13:33 | <Slaytanic> | It's already set to Pal... :/ |
| 13:33 | <killerbun> | its pal allright |
| 13:33 | <killerbun> | in xf86 config ? |
| 13:35 | <Slaytanic> | Yeah |
| 13:35 | <killerbun> | hmm |
| 13:35 | <killerbun> | try with nvtv |
| 13:36 | <killerbun> | http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-tv-out/ |
| 13:36 | <Slaytanic> | But can I get the X desktop and myth interface through the Hauppauge card instead of the geforce? I was planning to use it that way, and connect the Geforce by VGA to my "monitor", the projector. |
| 13:36 | <pmowry> | What version of ivtv and mythtv are you using? I'm using ivtv-0.1.9and myth CVS. I think if you are going to use the tv-out for games and such, you wouldbe better off using the geforce port that loadinf ivtv-fb. |
| 13:36 | <Slaytanic> | I'm using whatever came with the lastest knoppmyth, not sure about the exact versions. |
| 13:37 | <Slaytanic> | Installed nvtv the other day, nice proggie. Didn' |
| 13:37 | <Slaytanic> | Didn't help me with the b/w problem though, despite fiddling with most options. |
| 13:37 | <killerbun> | weird |
| 13:38 | <pmowry> | the350 tv-out is great for watching TV and such, but the framebuffer driver is a bit slow for mame use. |
| 13:38 | <Slaytanic> | So I've heard... That's okey, I can use the 350 for TV only... |
| 13:38 | <pmowry> | nevermind,thats why you want the monitor working to.... |
| 13:39 | <Slaytanic> | Yeah. |
| 13:40 | <Slaytanic> | So what should I do now to get live tv working - start watching "live tv" through the frontend and test various io_ctl options? |
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| 13:41 | <sfr> | Slaytanic: did you set up ivtv properly? check for errors in the log files |
| 13:41 | <sfr> | and, btw, there is #ivtv-dev ;) |
| 13:42 | <pmowry> | I believe the soucefile ivtv-fb.c has instructions for configuring X. // Have you been able to capture video from a command prompt? I'll look for the PAL how-to. |
| 13:42 | <Slaytanic> | Wouldn't want to disturb them as a newbie... ;) |
| 13:42 | <Slaytanic> | Yeah, capturing with cat /dev/video0 "works", doesn't give me any errors but the resulting video is just black. |
| 13:42 | <sfr> | but disturb the mythtv development channel instead :) |
| 13:43 | <Slaytanic> | Hey, it doesn't say #myth-dev, does it? ;) |
| 13:43 | <sfr> | Chutt: set a proper topic maybe? |
| 13:43 | <Slaytanic> | Ah, nice... Capturing with -p set to 4 gives me static, that's an improvement... |
| 13:44 | <pmowry> | hehe, there is also a #mythtv-users |
| 13:44 | <Slaytanic> | Oh? Damn, didn't know! Sorry about this then... |
| 13:45 | <Slaytanic> | Been hanging around here for 2 days and noone told me until now... ,) |
| 13:46 | <warlord-afk> | Chutt: FYI, if you set PiP to "upper right" (and I presume lower right, but haven't tested it) when using a PVR-350 tv-out, the PiP image is in the top-middle of the screen instead of top-right. |
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| 13:49 | <Chutt> | huh, that's weird |
| 13:49 | <Chutt> | ah hah |
| 13:50 | <Chutt> | warlord, thanks, that'll be fixed in my next commit |
| 13:52 | <thor_> | Chutt, you want me to try and fix the album art stuff for 0.14 ? |
| 13:53 | <Chutt> | if you have time |
| 13:53 | <Chutt> | i don't really mind if it's broken :p |
| 13:53 | <thor_> | k, will have a look |
| 13:53 | <killerbun> | album art ? |
| 13:53 | <o_cee> | i've started a little on the mythmusic stuff |
| 13:53 | <o_cee> | got an idea i want to try |
| 13:54 | <o_cee> | but it won't be ready for .14 i think |
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| 13:55 | <Sobek> | what is the best video card for High Def? |
| 13:55 | <killerbun> | are you doing someting with pictures for mythmusic ? |
| 13:57 | <thor_> | somebody put in a patch for Album Art, but it's a bit broken at the moment |
| 13:57 | <o_cee> | it works a little for me |
| 13:58 | <thor_> | I just think he needs to be robust'ified |
| 13:58 | <thor_> | it |
| 13:59 | <o_cee> | thor, chutt: have a look at https://dragon.dyndns.tv/mythtv/mm |
| 13:59 | <o_cee> | https://dragon.dyndns.tv/mythtv/mm/ maybe is needed |
| 13:59 | <o_cee> | you think that could work? |
| 14:00 | <thor_> | getting a 404 |
| 14:00 | <o_cee> | oh? |
| 14:00 | <o_cee> | dammit |
| 14:00 | <o_cee> | change mythtv -> mythweb |
| 14:00 | <o_cee> | ops |
| 14:00 | <o_cee> | maybe .htaccess will kick in there tho |
| 14:01 | <thor_> | yup |
| 14:01 | <o_cee> | minute |
| 14:01 | <kvandivo> | batting a thousand so far there, o_cee |
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| 14:01 | <o_cee> | kvandivo: ? |
| 14:03 | <o_cee> | now |
| 14:03 | <sfr> | nope |
| 14:03 | <sfr> | i _love_ security ;) |
| 14:03 | <o_cee> | :P |
| 14:04 | <thor_> | yup, on the first URL |
| 14:04 | <thor_> | I'm guessing that's a "coutout" for buttons ? |
| 14:04 | <o_cee> | yeah |
| 14:05 | <thor_> | this is for the current track display |
| 14:05 | <o_cee> | yes indeed |
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| 14:06 | <thor_> | only 5 slots .... you want stop/play/pause as all one button ? |
| 14:06 | <o_cee> | hehe, haven't got any ff/rew buttons :P |
| 14:06 | <thor_> | ah |
| 14:06 | <o_cee> | so i thought a timeline would look nice as well |
| 14:07 | <kvandivo> | here's a good timeline.. http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm |
| 14:07 | <thor_> | timeline would be great, but a bit of a push to get it in for 0.14 .... |
| 14:07 | <o_cee> | probably |
| 14:08 | <thor_> | I could do it though, if you're raring to go |
| 14:08 | <o_cee> | don't worry |
| 14:09 | <o_cee> | not likely i'll get the other stuff ready in time |
| 14:10 | <o_cee> | you've seen the play buttons? |
| 14:10 | <thor_> | nope |
| 14:10 | <o_cee> | refresh |
| 14:10 | <o_cee> | play.png |
| 14:10 | <o_cee> | pretty nice |
| 14:10 | <o_cee> | need to fix pushed state and so on tho |
| 14:10 | <thor_> | very sweet |
| 14:11 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 14:11 | <thor_> | nice glowing blue for pushed state maybe ? |
| 14:11 | <o_cee> | maybe |
| 14:11 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 14:12 | <thor_> | and it would be fairly easy to make the outside black circle white/yellow/etc. for selected mode |
| 14:12 | <o_cee> | yeah.. there's some transparency going on as well tho i think |
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| 14:12 | <thor_> | (does anybody _not_ use keyboard accelerators in mmusic?) |
| 14:12 | <o_cee> | but yeah, pretty easy |
| 14:12 | <o_cee> | no idea |
| 14:13 | <o_cee> | wouldn't think so :P |
| 14:13 | <thor_> | no |
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| 14:14 | <o_cee> | will be back later |
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| 14:33 | <Netslayer> | anyone here use 2.6.x? |
| 14:34 | <Netslayer> | does it work well with mythtv and alsa? |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | if 2.4 works, why upgrade to something potentially broken? |
| 14:38 | <thor_> | hmmm ... so much for that new car :-( |
| 14:39 | <Netslayer> | heh |
| 14:39 | <Netslayer> | 2.6 speed? |
| 14:39 | <thor_> | I have the vaguest impression that user land preemption is "better" in 2.6, but I don't know where I got that from |
| 14:39 | <Chutt> | i won't be touching 2.6 until they're on .15 at least |
| 14:40 | <Netslayer> | 2.6 has a lot of O(1) functions as I hear |
| 14:40 | <kvandivo> | here here for chutt's comment |
| 14:40 | <Chutt> | which really won't help you at all for mythtv |
| 14:41 | <Chutt> | since you're not running tons of processes. |
| 14:41 | <Netslayer> | true |
| 14:41 | <Netslayer> | i'll put off the upgrade, maybe just goto 2.4.25 when it's out |
| 14:41 | <thor_> | perhaps we could ask the 2.6 kernel to sort GenericTree's :-) |
| 14:41 | <kvandivo> | other than just the gee whiz factor of knowing that i'm running the latest and greatest i don't have much desire to switch... although, i'm curious to see if the SMP support is much better.. |
| 14:42 | <Chutt> | early 2.4 had some really nasty bugs |
| 14:42 | <Chutt> | and by early, i mean anything < .18 or so =) |
| 14:42 | <Chutt> | i don't see why 2.6 would be any different |
| 14:43 | <Netslayer> | i jumped on the bandwagon at 2.4.20 so guess I missed those heh |
| 14:43 | <thor_> | well, it's backed by the full authority of SCO |
| 14:43 | <Netslayer> | i run 2.6.0pre9 still on my laptop, works perfectly |
| 14:43 | <Netslayer> | although i just turn it on and off, rarely use it |
| 14:45 | <thor_> | bah, ogg does some vey strange things on initialization |
| 14:45 | <Netslayer> | just ordered some UV round ata cables, and fans. Think i'm having heat problems with my backend box |
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| 14:46 | <thor_> | it immediately seeks to the front, and then to the _end_ of a file, expecting to get 0 from a read |
| 14:46 | <Netslayer> | about three times a day i get segfaults doing anything, then the screen garbles and locks |
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| 14:55 | <qwerty> | Whats the cheapest card that does onboard encoding/decoding? |
| 14:56 | <KeyserSoze> | you want mpeg2 decoding on the capture card? |
| 14:56 | <KeyserSoze> | i don't know of any that do that, except the pvr350 from hauppauge |
| 14:56 | <KeyserSoze> | it's pricery |
| 14:56 | <KeyserSoze> | er, pricey |
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| 14:57 | <KeyserSoze> | the avermedia m179 does mpeg2 encoding, it's $80 from newegg. |
| 14:58 | <qwerty> | KeyserSoze um, you said only th e pvr350 can, then you said the avermedia can? |
| 14:58 | <KeyserSoze> | you can get a via epia motherboard that does mpeg2 decoding, and there is a distro called minimyth for running mythtv on it |
| 14:59 | <KeyserSoze> | i said the pvr350 does *decoding* |
| 14:59 | <KeyserSoze> | most cards only encode, AFAIK |
| 14:59 | <qwerty> | SO if I want enconding/decoding I have only one choice? |
| 14:59 | <qwerty> | I got hauppage tech on the line brb. |
| 14:59 | <KeyserSoze> | most capture cards don't have a tv output, so they have nothing to decode for |
| 15:00 | <KeyserSoze> | if you are capturing, you want a encoder. if you are playing back, you want a decoder. |
| 15:02 | <qwerty> | KeyserSoze I want both anyways to replace my tivo right? |
| 15:02 | <KeyserSoze> | yes. |
| 15:02 | <qwerty> | What kind of system do you have set up on yours? |
| 15:03 | <KeyserSoze> | i don't have one. i only started looking for parts a few days ago |
| 15:03 | <qwerty> | Do you have a pvr? |
| 15:03 | <KeyserSoze> | what i plan to do, is add 2-3 aver m179s to my file server, and keep in in a closet. |
| 15:03 | <KeyserSoze> | then, i will either use xboxes, or via epia machines running minimyth as frontends |
| 15:03 | <qwerty> | What kind of capture card are you going to get? |
| 15:03 | <KeyserSoze> | no, no pvr. |
| 15:04 | <KeyserSoze> | i am planning on Avermedia m179's, since i heard they are as good of quality as a hauppauge pvr250, but much cheaper |
| 15:04 | <qwerty> | Speaking just from tivo, youll never be able to watch a normal tv again. I get sorta pissed off at friends houses watching their 'pesent' tvs. |
| 15:04 | <KeyserSoze> | http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=15-100-003&depa=1 |
| 15:04 | <qwerty> | Why not the 350? |
| 15:05 | <KeyserSoze> | i am going to have 1 machine that does all the capturing and storage, and 2-3 others that connect to it over the network and play stuff back on different tvs |
| 15:05 | <KeyserSoze> | a pvr350 is like a pvr250, except it adds tv out and an mpeg2 decoder |
| 15:05 | <qwerty> | So you dont need decoding? |
| 15:06 | <KeyserSoze> | i do need decoding, but only on the frontend machines |
| 15:06 | <qwerty> | What are you going to use for thoes? |
| 15:07 | <KeyserSoze> | either xbox's running xboxmyth, or build computers using a via epia motherboard with a mpeg2 decoder built into the motherboard |
| 15:07 | <qwerty> | Im righting thinking that on a single system I will need encode/decode? |
| 15:07 | <qwerty> | hehe righting. |
| 15:07 | <KeyserSoze> | yes, if you want one system to do everything, it needs to encode and decode. |
| 15:08 | <KeyserSoze> | you don't *need* to encode and decode in hardware, though |
| 15:08 | <qwerty> | Will my p3 450 be able to hand it? |
| 15:09 | <KeyserSoze> | http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInfo |
| 15:09 | <Chutt> | not without hardware accel. |
| 15:10 | <KeyserSoze> | Chutt, would he qwerty need hardware decoding and encoding, or maybe just hardware encoding? |
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