| --- | Log | opened Mon Jan 26 00:00:46 2004 |
| --- | Day | changed Mon Jan 26 2004 |
| 00:00 | * | Netslayer tried emerging lm-sensors yesterday w i2c stuff. Took him 4hrs to fix all the things it screwed up with bttv |
| 00:03 | <John-Kimble> | Chutt2: you coded much streaming backends before ? |
| 00:03 | <pigeon> | hmm is there a cut list settings to avoid that too close warning? |
| 00:03 | <Chutt2> | john-kimble, err, mythtv perhaps? |
| 00:03 | <thor_> | heh |
| 00:04 | <Chutt2> | pigeon, nope |
| 00:04 | <pigeon> | hmm... kind of annoying, i cannot just strip out this perhaps 10 seconds of stuff. |
| 00:05 | <Morph> | Chutt2: are you using an epia box for both front and backends or do you have the 350 card in another box? |
| 00:05 | <Chutt2> | morph, it's a standalone machine |
| 00:06 | <Morph> | Chutt2: no DMA issues like im seeing? |
| 00:06 | <Chutt2> | nope |
| 00:06 | <Morph> | hmm.. |
| 00:06 | <Chutt2> | the driver shits itself very occasionally |
| 00:06 | <Morph> | wait. which driver? |
| 00:06 | <Chutt2> | but i don't see any dma errors in the logs |
| 00:06 | <Chutt2> | ivtv |
| 00:06 | <Morph> | oh okay.. |
| 00:07 | <moegreen_> | Chutt2: Did you see my monster commit the other day? |
| 00:07 | <thor_> | heh |
| 00:07 | <Chutt2> | moegreen, yeah =) |
| 00:07 | <Chutt2> | good you're here still =) |
| 00:08 | <moegreen_> | I keep my eye on the mailing lists and this channel |
| 00:08 | <pigeon> | grrrrr hmm... with manual transcoding by pressing X, which transcoding profile it's going to use? Default or Transcode? |
| 00:11 | <Netslayer> | think it's transcode |
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| 00:11 | <pigeon> | hmm, everytime i got it to transcode, its quality is bad, even i've set everything to highest in the profile. |
| 00:11 | <Salec> | how can I get mythtv running on directFB |
| 00:12 | <Netslayer> | hey how would i go about deleting profiles after i create them? single ones and the whole group |
| 00:12 | <Chutt2> | netslayer, hit menu on the profile |
| 00:12 | <Chutt2> | group, not individual |
| 00:12 | <Netslayer> | cool thanks |
| 00:12 | <Chutt2> | pigeon, you know the min/max quality settings? |
| 00:12 | <Chutt2> | pigeon, where the help text says 'don't touch these unless you know what they mean'? |
| 00:13 | <pigeon> | Chutt2: Hmm I've been using the default settings, the quality is bad, and so I tried changing them. |
| 00:13 | <thor_> | phht, damn conjunctions |
| 00:13 | <Chutt2> | pigeon, higher is lower quality. |
| 00:14 | <pigeon> | Chutt2: Even for minimum? |
| 00:14 | <pigeon> | And bitrate? |
| 00:14 | <Chutt2> | yes. |
| 00:14 | <Chutt2> | not for bitrate |
| 00:14 | <pigeon> | alright, let's try this again... |
| 00:16 | <Netslayer> | sweet i love auto commercial skipping ;-) |
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| 00:19 | <pigeon> | Chutt2: Ah thanks... it's doing what I want at last... |
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| 00:49 | <John-Kimble> | what do you guys think on the idea that coding is the most anti-social thing you can do ? |
| 00:52 | <Rince> | why should it be? |
| 00:54 | <Captain_Murdoch> | can't talk now, I'm coding... |
| 00:55 | <Chutt2> | captain_murdoch, you see that 'alternative commercial detection' stuff? |
| 00:55 | <Chutt2> | the patch didn't look well integrated to me |
| 00:55 | <Captain_Murdoch> | haven't looked at it yet. I saved it so I could though. |
| 00:56 | <Chutt2> | looked like he bypassed your multiple detection methods stuff |
| 00:56 | <Chutt2> | 'course, then he said it didn't really work that well, so the whole thing may be moot |
| 00:57 | <Captain_Murdoch> | just got a segfault when running cvs mythbackend as it updated my db to 1022. :( |
| 00:57 | <Chutt2> | hrm |
| 00:57 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, the multi stuff still isn't worked out yet fully in my head. I'm thinking of going with some form of weighting/rating method. |
| 00:58 | <Chutt2> | ah, i see the problem with 1022 |
| 00:59 | <Chutt2> | hrm |
| 00:59 | <Chutt2> | maybe not |
| 00:59 | * | Captain_Murdoch goes and stops his backend so he can fix the DB manually if necessary. |
| 01:00 | <dmitry> | i dont quite understand. i created a profile that does a transcoding after capure.. but it's not visible when i go into recording mode |
| 01:00 | <pigeon> | hmm is there a reason why watching livetv with mythtv uses a lot more cpu than watching a currently recording livetv? |
| 01:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | if you delete entries from a vector doesn't its size get smaller? |
| 01:00 | <Chutt2> | all i see is the wrong delete call |
| 01:00 | <Chutt2> | shouldn't |
| 01:00 | <Chutt2> | not deleting the entry, just the pointer |
| 01:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ah, ok. |
| 01:01 | <Captain_Murdoch> | maybe a flakey machine... haven't had problems before, this is my master backend and it's been up running for months without a hitch. |
| 01:01 | <Chutt> | naw, it's probably something wrong in there |
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| 01:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | doesn't look like 1022 was too important though, I can just set commflagged = 1 everywhere. :) |
| 01:04 | <Chutt> | would be nice to know what the crash is, though |
| 01:04 | <Chutt> | so it doesn't happen to other people when they upgrade to 0.14 |
| 01:05 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I have a dump of my db from last night I can restore that temporarily and try it again. |
| 01:06 | <gore> | Hmm, seems I can't get my channels table filled properly using mythfilldatabase. It wasn't inserting channum or freqid into the database. |
| 01:06 | <Captain_Murdoch> | should maybe have a "select distinct recorded.chanid, recorded.starttime" in there instead of just "SELECT recorded.chanid, recorded.starttime" |
| 01:06 | <Captain_Murdoch> | nevermind, has a group by |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | do you know why it's even doing that vector thing? |
| 01:10 | <Captain_Murdoch> | don't know, could be simpler |
| 01:10 | <Chutt> | is it still crashing for you? |
| 01:10 | <Captain_Murdoch> | getting ready to retry, wanted to make sure I had a DB dump from before and after |
| 01:10 | <Chutt> | would be pretty easy to rewrite it not to create that vector at all |
| 01:10 | <Morph> | hmm hmm |
| 01:11 | <Morph> | Chutt: can I use the decoder on the 250 rev1 with myth? |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | nope |
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| 01:12 | <Morph> | rats. |
| 01:12 | <paulc35> | Hey: Working on tv-out here with pvr-350. Got the test screen so I know connections / drivers are working. Not sure about the video device to use in the "enable pvr 350 decoder) section..any help? |
| 01:13 | <gore> | Holy crap, MythTV finally works for me... this is like a religious experience :) |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | paulc35, default should work, unless it's not the first pvr card in the machine |
| 01:15 | <paulc35> | ...ok, and the audio has to come from the pvr card, or can you still use your sound card? At least for testing (I imagine there could be some delay with the sound card) |
| 01:15 | <Chutt> | has to come from the pvr card |
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| 01:17 | <paulc35> | ok..and one final question: To have the tv display on the pvr tv-out and still use your computer monitor (for regualr stuff, not tv) do you have to have multiple screens, or if you just have one screen for your computer and ... |
| 01:17 | <paulc35> | tell myth to use the pvr tv-out, will that work? |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | you really should just read the walkthrough in the ivtv wiki on setting up mythtv to use the pvr-350 |
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| 01:19 | <paulc35> | I think I have, if you're refering to the same thing I just went through..it ha the multiple screens...right? (I had them up when I had myth going through the video card S-video out..no problem, just curious) |
| 01:20 | <paulc35> | I'll look on the ivtv site and see if you're talking about the same "pvr tv-out howto" I was just looking at. It didn't mention anything about the sound settings, for example... |
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| 01:23 | <paulc35> | Chutt: Where is that located? |
| 01:23 | <paulc35> | In the docs section of the mythtv website? |
| 01:23 | <Chutt> | in the ivtv wiki. |
| 01:25 | <cygnus> | i am having a problem watching livetv in myth |
| 01:25 | <cygnus> | i can record a program and i can see the small preview video on the watch recordings screen |
| 01:25 | <cygnus> | but when i go to watch the recording or watch live tv i just get a black screen |
| 01:25 | <cygnus> | any ideas? |
| 01:26 | <Chutt> | error messages on the console |
| 01:26 | <paulc35> | Chutt: Yeah, that was the same thing I read. Do you leave your sound settings in mythtv to still use your sound card, but you hook up the sound *cables* to the pvr sound out.? |
| 01:27 | <cygnus> | i get some errors about not being able to open sound devices (i have to get my sound card working right)...coudl that be it? |
| 01:27 | <paulc35> | cygnus: yeah, sounds like it |
| 01:27 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, only 1 item in recorded has commflagged set to 1 after that segfault. I'm redoing to eliminate the vector and will retest. |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | paulc35, the sound output for tv is ignored completely when using the pvr-350 |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, great, thanks =) |
| 01:29 | <paulc35> | Ok, thanks |
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| 01:31 | <Octane> | in schedule recordings, is there a way to set the days to record? or is it just for one show? |
| 01:33 | <cygnus> | k, thanks |
| 01:33 | <cygnus> | i will get sound working and see if that does it |
| 01:36 | <Captain_Murdoch> | you can set "any day", "a single weekday every week", or "a single instance and never again" |
| 01:36 | * | Captain_Murdoch wishes mysql had an "update table1 set blah from table1, table2 where blah" syntax. :) |
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| 01:39 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, were you thinking 2 db conns, one to query and another to update inside the while loop? |
| 01:40 | <Chutt> | don't really need 2 |
| 01:41 | <Chutt> | just db->exec(newquery) |
| 01:41 | <Chutt> | should work fine |
| 01:41 | <Captain_Murdoch> | so once you get query back from db->exec you can reuse db while processing query results? cool |
| 01:41 | <Chutt> | i've done it before, at least |
| 01:42 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'll test that in a minute to verify and commit it that way if so. |
| 01:46 | <Chutt> | it's fun not applying patches |
| 01:46 | <Chutt> | i should do this more often |
| 01:47 | <Chutt> | less work for me =) |
| 01:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | using db->exec worked fine. |
| 01:48 | <Captain_Murdoch> | master backend is up running current CVS finally. :) started on it 8 hours ago and got interrupted by a call from work. |
| 01:48 | <Captain_Murdoch> | gives you more time to release those daily cvs packages. ;) |
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| 01:49 | <Captain_Murdoch> | x0rfbserver is nice, lets me restart mythfrontend on my machine in the living room remotely. |
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| 01:50 | <DogBoy> | hey, don't most people use their myth box for watching recordings? |
| 01:50 | <DogBoy> | (rather than live tv) |
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| 01:52 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Myth does live tv? :) I only use that to test when I throw in a new tuner or occasionally to test something else.. |
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| 01:57 | <DogBoy> | why then in the interface is live tv the default menu choice? |
| 01:57 | <Chutt> | because it's first in the xml menu file |
| 01:58 | <Chutt> | rearrange to your heart's content |
| 01:59 | <Chutt> | compile compile compile |
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| 02:01 | <Chutt> | wait wait wait |
| 02:01 | <Chutt> | compile compile compile |
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| 02:01 | <Captain_Murdoch> | that's what I was thinking when I upgraded my P2-400 slave backend to current CVS. It's running a different distribution version currently so I couldn't use the copy I used for the rest of my systems. |
| 02:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | make distclean && make && goto sleep && goto work && come home && happy happy joy joy it's done && sudo make install |
| 02:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | not that bad but felt like it. |
| 02:03 | <Chutt> | this is my xp1800+ |
| 02:03 | <Chutt> | still takes an age to compile |
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| 02:18 | <Chutt> | no more segfault on 1022? |
| 02:19 | <Captain_Murdoch> | no, worked fine and I ran it a few times on 2 different machines. |
| 02:19 | <Captain_Murdoch> | committed the fix a while ago but haven't seen the commit email yet. |
| 02:19 | <Captain_Murdoch> | fix/rework. |
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| 02:20 | <Chutt> | i just saw the commit email |
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| 02:22 | <Chutt> | thanks for fixing that =) |
| 02:25 | <Captain_Murdoch> | no problem... now I just need to 'cvs update' my laptop tomorrow so I can work on stuff on there. time for bed now, all the other modules are compiling now. |
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| 02:34 | <mchou> | anybody with multiple tuners have issues where the same program gets recorded on two tuners at the same time? |
| 02:35 | <mchou> | all my backends are running NTP, so shouldn't be some funky issue with time..... |
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| 02:56 | <Chutt> | bah, i can't figure out how i want the search screen to work |
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| 03:58 | <paulc35> | Hey: Does anyone here have the tv-out on the pvr card working while using their computer monitor for other stuff at the same time? I have the pvr tv-out working on it's own, and with my video card I have simultaneous video ... |
| 03:58 | <paulc35> | out and dvi working well. |
| 03:59 | <StuartL> | Yus. |
| 03:59 | <paulc35> | maybe you could send me you XF86Config-4 file? |
| 03:59 | <paulc35> | or post it ..? |
| 03:59 | <Octane> | which pvr? |
| 03:59 | <paulc35> | pvr 350 |
| 04:00 | <paulc35> | I know it's working since on it's own everything is fine. And, I know I can do split screens since I did that with the video card. Maybe this isn't just an issue of the XF86Config file...? |
| 04:04 | <paulc35> | anyone any ideas? |
| 04:04 | <paulc35> | the pvr 350 tv-out howto doesn't cover multiple screens... |
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| 05:07 | <Salec> | how can I have mythtv use qt-embedded as opposed to qt? |
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| 05:34 | <CaCtus491> | evening |
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| 05:43 | <Salec> | hey |
| 05:44 | <Salec> | how can i compile mythtv to use qt-embedded? |
| 05:45 | <CaCtus491> | unfortunately that's something I've never tried and don't know. |
| 05:45 | <Salec> | damn |
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| 05:45 | <CaCtus491> | searched the lists? |
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| 05:48 | <CaCtus491> | Salec: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=99404;search_string=qt-embedded;guest=2140360&t=search_engine#99404 |
| 05:51 | <CaCtus491> | Salec: what are you trying to run it on? |
| 05:54 | <Salec> | gentoo linux |
| 05:54 | <knight-> | 70 programs, using 169 GB out of 749 GB |
| 05:54 | <knight-> | got plenty of room left :) |
| 05:57 | <CaCtus491> | Hmm, that's like 3x my capacity :) |
| 05:59 | <knight-> | hehe |
| 06:00 | <knight-> | just the ability to use a raid storage array is one feature that passes up TiVo/ReplayTV/UltimateTV |
| 06:01 | <Salec> | the ability to have mythtv on the framebuffer would be quite nice :) |
| 06:01 | <Salec> | no dicking around with X :D |
| 06:01 | <knight-> | true |
| 06:01 | <Salec> | which then! |
| 06:01 | <knight-> | i agree |
| 06:01 | <Salec> | allows me to run X for another screen |
| 06:02 | <Salec> | currently X only allows for one VT so if you want to run mythtv one a tvout card..the monitor is then useless |
| 06:02 | <knight-> | the framebuffer is not for anything but video decoding though |
| 06:02 | <Salec> | what do you mean? |
| 06:03 | <knight-> | the ivtv-fb driver for the PVR-350 is for MPEG decoding only. |
| 06:03 | <Salec> | it works for more than that |
| 06:03 | <knight-> | since when? |
| 06:03 | <Salec> | right now i run X on it and run mythtv on it (though i need to get the newest cvs code with the better support for ivtv) |
| 06:04 | <Salec> | ivtv-fb is a framebuffer device |
| 06:04 | <Salec> | you can run xfree on it |
| 06:04 | <Salec> | you can't do a multihead display however |
| 06:04 | <Salec> | but you can set it up as a single display to that framebuffer |
| 06:04 | <Salec> | then just run mythtb |
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| 06:04 | <Salec> | works quite well |
| 06:04 | <knight-> | why not just run multiple X instances? |
| 06:04 | <Salec> | doesn't work |
| 06:04 | <knight-> | each using a different ScreenLayout? |
| 06:04 | <knight-> | sure it does |
| 06:05 | <Salec> | i've tried it |
| 06:05 | <knight-> | I've run 5 X instances on a 5 headed box before |
| 06:05 | <knight-> | Then try again :) |
| 06:05 | <knight-> | -layout Nameofyourscreenlayout |
| 06:05 | <Salec> | startx -layout "TVLayout"? |
| 06:06 | <Salec> | TVLayout is one of my names in my config |
| 06:06 | <knight-> | you'll need to create another layout |
| 06:07 | <knight-> | in your config, that describes your monitor |
| 06:07 | <Salec> | i have multiple ones |
| 06:07 | <knight-> | right so start each x with the appropriate layout |
| 06:07 | <Salec> | i have defaultlayout and tvlayout |
| 06:07 | <Salec> | i just tried |
| 06:07 | <knight-> | and... |
| 06:07 | <Salec> | and i got server is already active for display 0 |
| 06:08 | <knight-> | heh |
| 06:08 | <Salec> | how do i get around that? |
| 06:09 | <knight-> | you arent specifying the right Screen then |
| 06:09 | <Salec> | startx -- -layout "TVLayout" is my command |
| 06:09 | <knight-> | and in Screen you're not defining the proper Device then |
| 06:09 | <Salec> | i'm positive i am |
| 06:09 | <knight-> | you need two Device's, two Screens, and two layouts |
| 06:09 | <Salec> | yup |
| 06:09 | <Salec> | i've switched between layouts in the past |
| 06:09 | <Salec> | running 1 at a time however |
| 06:09 | <knight-> | and you sure you have your two devices set up right? |
| 06:10 | <knight-> | add -display x |
| 06:10 | <knight-> | hence |
| 06:10 | <knight-> | startx -- -layout "TVLayout" -display 0 |
| 06:10 | <knight-> | startx -- -layout "DefaultLayout" -display 1 |
| 06:12 | <Salec> | there is no such option as -display |
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| 06:20 | <knight-> | dunno |
| 06:21 | <Salec> | hmm i'm thinking about switching to another distro |
| 06:21 | <Salec> | gentoo is great with it's portage system |
| 06:21 | <Salec> | but the second you want to do something other than portage |
| 06:21 | <Salec> | the whole system gets screwy |
| 06:21 | <knight-> | heh |
| 06:21 | <knight-> | the distro should have little to do with your X11 problem |
| 06:22 | <Salec> | oh no it's not that |
| 06:22 | <Salec> | i was wanting to build qt-embedded 3.3 |
| 06:22 | <Salec> | gentoo doesnt have an ebuild for that |
| 06:22 | <Salec> | and even if it did..the configurations and patches would be different than what i need |
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| 06:47 | <o_cee> | Chutt: you awake? |
| 06:54 | <Snappi> | I have the default mplayer options but I get the top frame when I choose it trought myth |
| 06:54 | <Snappi> | anyone know how to fix it? |
| 06:54 | <Snappi> | if I press f twice it goes away |
| 06:54 | <o_cee> | "the top frame" ? |
| 06:54 | <o_cee> | ah, non-fullscreen? |
| 06:54 | <Snappi> | the line were it says mplayer |
| 06:55 | <o_cee> | look at your mplayer settings |
| 06:55 | <o_cee> | to make it default to fullscreen or something |
| 06:55 | <Snappi> | the look right |
| 06:55 | <Snappi> | *it |
| 06:57 | <o_cee> | and if you launch mplayer with the same command line but not from inside MythVideo? |
| 07:02 | <o_cee> | right.. |
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| 07:17 | <Snappi> | it looks like it's a fluxbox misstake |
| 07:26 | <o_cee> | mythfrontend: cannot connect to X server dragon.lan:0.0 <--- hmm, anyone got an idea? trying to debug via ssh |
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| 07:45 | <Peit|work> | o_cee, you need to have permission to connect to the display, either with the correct cookie, or by telling X to allow that machine to write X dat to it (which xhost ) |
| 07:46 | <o_cee> | xhost? allright.. i solved it another way, but i'll have it in mind the next time |
| 07:46 | <o_cee> | pretty backtrace emailed to the devlist ;) |
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| 08:21 | <Salec> | anyone know how to specify what framebuffer to use in qt-embedded? |
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| 08:35 | <killerbun> | quistion.... how is mythtv video module support to work with imdb... |
| 08:35 | <killerbun> | when ever i pick a movie that i want to add... i have to pick the imdb number manually |
| 08:35 | <killerbun> | it times out every time |
| 08:36 | <o_cee> | they've changed things on imdb.com lately, not sure if .13 is changed |
| 08:36 | <o_cee> | or if those changes are in cvs.. |
| 08:36 | <killerbun> | ohh oki |
| 08:37 | <killerbun> | cause i can add it manually |
| 08:37 | <o_cee> | all i remember is that they've made changes.. |
| 08:37 | <o_cee> | haven't used it in a while |
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| 08:40 | <o_c> | hmm |
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| 08:45 | <Snappi> | anyone know if that that happend to dagenstv.com can happend to imdb.com? |
| 08:45 | <o_cee> | the imdb.com database is freely availible for download for non-comercial usage, so no, that's not likely |
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| 08:47 | <Snappi> | k |
| 08:48 | <Snappi> | wich button rewind in mythmusic? |
| 08:48 | <o_cee> | depends how you define it of course. |
| 08:48 | <Snappi> | default |
| 08:48 | <o_cee> | but normally that's pgup or pgdn i htink |
| 08:49 | <Snappi> | u are right thx alot |
| 08:49 | <Snappi> | :D |
| 08:49 | <Snappi> | this app is so amizing |
| 08:49 | <Snappi> | :D thx developers |
| 08:49 | <o_cee> | ;) |
| 08:50 | <Snappi> | is there some way to support this project (not economicly, I am in school so no money) |
| 08:50 | <o_cee> | yeah, submitting patches. |
| 08:50 | <Snappi> | k |
| 08:50 | <Snappi> | any speciall patches? |
| 08:51 | <o_cee> | features that you want yourself? |
| 08:51 | <Snappi> | k |
| 08:51 | <o_cee> | just send an email to the -dev list to make sure noone else is working on it already |
| 08:51 | <Snappi> | for example webbrowser, virtual keyboard with remote |
| 08:51 | <Snappi> | k |
| 08:51 | <Snappi> | would it be appreciated if I set up a phpbb forum for myth? |
| 08:52 | <o_cee> | webbrowser? that already exists.. |
| 08:52 | <o_cee> | not likely, no. |
| 08:52 | <Snappi> | k |
| 08:53 | <Snappi> | is it in the packages or is more of a plugin? |
| 08:53 | <o_cee> | of course you could make another unofficial thingie, but there won't be any official webboard |
| 08:53 | <Snappi> | in other words is it in mythtv.org? |
| 08:53 | <o_cee> | it's a plugin called MythBrowser |
| 08:53 | <o_cee> | it should be |
| 08:53 | <o_cee> | it's in CVS at least |
| 08:53 | <Snappi> | k |
| 08:54 | <o_cee> | This Page Is Valid XHTML 1.0 Strict! <-- weh :) |
| 08:56 | <Snappi> | any releas plans for .14? |
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| 08:59 | <o_cee> | soonish |
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| 09:01 | <Snappi> | k |
| 09:02 | <Snappi> | is there any points a custom theme have to follow, if I decied to create one? |
| 09:02 | <o_cee> | uhm |
| 09:02 | <killerbun> | yeah would be nice to know what they are doing for the next mythtv ;) |
| 09:02 | <Snappi> | I mean do I have to follow a standard when creating a theme? |
| 09:03 | <o_cee> | Snappi: 10% margin for overscan.. |
| 09:03 | <Snappi> | k |
| 09:03 | <Snappi> | format? |
| 09:03 | <o_cee> | 10% is the "text-safe" area |
| 09:03 | <o_cee> | and 5% is the "action-safe" area |
| 09:03 | <o_cee> | something like that |
| 09:03 | <Snappi> | yes I know |
| 09:03 | <o_cee> | just look at what there is |
| 09:03 | <Snappi> | action-safe? |
| 09:03 | <o_cee> | yeah.. like pictures and stuff |
| 09:03 | <o_cee> | ntsc standards |
| 09:03 | <Snappi> | k |
| 09:03 | <Snappi> | k |
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| 09:04 | <Snappi> | wich format, i.e jpeg,tiff,tga? |
| 09:04 | <o_cee> | just look at blue |
| 09:04 | <o_cee> | the theme |
| 09:04 | <Snappi> | k |
| 09:12 | <Snappi> | o_cee, is a kalender being developed? |
| 09:18 | <o_cee> | Snappi: a calendar that would be used in what way? |
| 09:20 | <Snappi> | meetings, notes, etc |
| 09:21 | <o_cee> | not that i know of, no. |
| 09:21 | <Snappi> | k |
| 09:24 | <Salec> | anyone here know qt-embedded? |
| 09:24 | <o_cee> | no. |
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| 09:31 | <livesNbox> | morning guys... I was hoping this channel would exist :) |
| 09:31 | <o_cee> | it's a dev-channel. |
| 09:31 | <livesNbox> | there any place I can ask a couple of questions ? |
| 09:32 | <o_cee> | ask ahead. |
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| 09:33 | <livesNbox> | well.. I saw in the docs that you can add support for an external tuner. |
| 09:33 | <livesNbox> | but when I followed the link, it wasn't much help... |
| 09:34 | <o_cee> | external tuner as a cable box? |
| 09:34 | <livesNbox> | any info on something like that? I have a dish network HD reciever. |
| 09:34 | <o_cee> | that's asked all the time and very well covered in the mailinglist archives. |
| 09:34 | <livesNbox> | ok I'll check into it.. |
| 09:34 | <livesNbox> | another question -- what's the preferred linux distro to use with mythtv ? |
| 09:34 | <Salec> | yes |
| 09:35 | <livesNbox> | i tried to install rh 9 on a new box last night, and it was awful. |
| 09:35 | <Salec> | RTFMA |
| 09:35 | <o_cee> | wichever, the main dev uses debian |
| 09:35 | <livesNbox> | it's still not up right. |
| 09:35 | <livesNbox> | ok.. |
| 09:35 | <livesNbox> | debian good for an all around media PC ? |
| 09:35 | <Salec> | grrr nobody will say HOW they got mythtv working in qt-e on the PVR 350 |
| 09:35 | <o_cee> | i use gentoo, i have no idea. |
| 09:36 | <livesNbox> | hehe.. ok.. |
| 09:36 | <livesNbox> | maybe I'll load up mandrake :) |
| 09:36 | <o_cee> | Salec: the qt-e stuff is very beta what i know |
| 09:37 | <livesNbox> | i think that's pretty much the only questions I have so far.. thanks |
| 09:37 | <Salec> | i have it running |
| 09:37 | <Salec> | but on my primary framebuffer |
| 09:37 | <Salec> | i can't get it to load on my ivtv-fb |
| 09:37 | <o_cee> | no idea, send an email to ivtv-devel |
| 09:39 | <Salec> | they are all asleep at the moment :( |
| 09:39 | <o_cee> | yeah, calm |
| 09:39 | <Salec> | would running mythtv on qte require i rebuild mythtv? |
| 09:39 | <o_cee> | uhm, probably? |
| 09:40 | <Peit|work> | Salec, why do you need qt-e? |
| 09:40 | <o_cee> | as always, why don't you search the mythtv-dev mailinglist? |
| 09:40 | <Peit|work> | mythtv works fine on my ivtv-fb |
| 09:40 | <Salec> | i don't want to have X running |
| 09:40 | <Peit|work> | ah |
| 09:40 | * | Peit|work shrugs |
| 09:40 | <Peit|work> | can't help you there then. |
| 09:41 | <Salec> | X doesn't support multiple VT's meaning I cannot use my monitor display for routine stuff and have mythtv outputing at the same time |
| 09:41 | <Peit|work> | salec multiple screens? yes it does |
| 09:41 | <Salec> | multiple screens yes |
| 09:41 | <Peit|work> | multiple virtual desktops? yes, but htat's a function of the display manager |
| 09:41 | <Salec> | however you cannot have multiplescreens while mythtv is using ivtv-fb |
| 09:41 | <Salec> | no not multiple virtual desktops |
| 09:42 | <Salec> | i have a hauppauge pvr 350 |
| 09:42 | <Salec> | it has it's own output using ivtv-fb |
| 09:42 | <Salec> | i display mythtv through that output |
| 09:42 | <Salec> | right now using X |
| 09:42 | <Salec> | X will blank out all other displays |
| 09:42 | <Salec> | because it only supports 1 virtual terminal (this is built into X and would require lots of nasty patching to get rid of) |
| 09:43 | <Salec> | so my monitor and other gfx cards are useless in the box |
| 09:43 | <Peit|work> | if you say so salec, I've not tried it to be honest, does it only blank when you go into the video playback?> |
| 09:43 | <Salec> | no |
| 09:43 | <Salec> | as soon as X starts |
| 09:44 | <Salec> | the monitor blanks |
| 09:44 | <Salec> | and the fb loads up |
| 09:44 | <Salec> | now i can run X to use multiple displays |
| 09:44 | <Peit|work> | wanna continue this in #ivtv-dev |
| 09:44 | <Peit|work> | before o_cee shouts at me :) |
| 09:44 | <o_cee> | *ahem* |
| 09:44 | <o_cee> | ;) |
| 09:44 | <Salec> | ;) |
| 09:44 | <Peit|work> | ;) |
| 09:44 | <o_cee> | just email ivtv-devel |
| 09:44 | <o_cee> | i wouldn't think anyone've tried it before Salec |
| 09:45 | <Salec> | people have done mythtv through qt-e |
| 09:45 | <o_cee> | but not ivtv-fb |
| 09:45 | <Salec> | they explain how pretty well on the mail archives |
| 09:45 | <Salec> | they just don't explain how to get it to work with ivtv-fb |
| 09:45 | <o_cee> | like i said |
| 09:45 | <o_cee> | i wouldn't think anyone've tried it before Salec |
| 09:46 | <Salec> | :-P |
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| 10:38 | <Rince> | evenin' |
| 10:42 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, you around? |
| 10:47 | <o_cee> | hey chris |
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| 10:51 | <livesNbox> | anyone in here ever built one of those serious IR transmitters ? |
| 10:51 | <livesNbox> | hehe.. serious = seial |
| 10:51 | <livesNbox> | serial even.. |
| 10:51 | <livesNbox> | i guess 90 minutes of sleep last night wasn't quite enough. |
| 10:52 | <o_cee> | never needed one |
| 10:55 | <Rince> | no, sorry ;-) |
| 10:55 | <livesNbox> | do you use some other method of controlling an external tuner? or just don't do it. |
| 10:55 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Hey o_cee... |
| 10:55 | <Rince> | question: is it possible to really delete the parts of a recorded movie which I told mythtv to skip? If so, how? |
| 11:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | transcode them after marking commercials with the cutlist, search on the mailing list and docs for more info. |
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| 11:02 | <killerbun> | anyone uses a ati remote ? |
| 11:02 | <o_cee> | search the mailinglist before asking questions dammit |
| 11:03 | <killerbun> | dont think im going to find a review of it under mythtv =) |
| 11:04 | <livesNbox> | wish you could search the whole mailinglist archive |
| 11:04 | <Rince> | will do, thanks |
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| 11:34 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 11:46 | <Peit|work> | chutt would you be interested in a patch to demultiplex the stream going to the pvr-350, to split off the audio so it can be sent out of an onboard S/PDIF? |
| 11:46 | <Chutt> | how would you keep a/v sync? |
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| 11:48 | <Peit|work> | dunno yet, it was an idea i had, i've not started looking into it, just dipping my toes into the water to see what the temperature(response) is |
| 11:48 | <Chutt> | i wouldn't be interested myself, but i'd certainly apply it if it were clean |
| 11:48 | <Peit|work> | cool |
| 11:48 | <cygnus> | i have a question about that small bug in the 0.13 release |
| 11:49 | <Peit|work> | i love the transparent overlay with the 350 output btw... cracking job |
| 11:49 | <cygnus> | i am noticing the discoloration that is mentioned on the website |
| 11:49 | <Peit|work> | the website tells you how to fix it, doesn't it? |
| 11:49 | <cygnus> | but also it is like everything is in slow motion |
| 11:50 | <cygnus> | is that also a symptom? |
| 11:51 | <Chutt> | probably |
| 11:51 | <Chutt> | encoding crappy video is much more difficult |
| 11:52 | <Chutt> | and if it's telling the tuner pal when it's supposed to be ntsc, that's certainly crappy video |
| 11:53 | <cygnus> | heh, yeah |
| 11:53 | <cygnus> | i thought perhaps that the pal standard had a higher framerate or something |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | it's a lower framerate |
| 11:54 | <cygnus> | oh, hmm |
| 11:54 | <cygnus> | if the problem is difficulty encoding should the cpu usage be high |
| 11:54 | <cygnus> | cause cpu util. is still <30% |
| 11:55 | <Chutt> | do the little fix that's on the website |
| 11:55 | <Peit|work> | lower framerate, more lines, and a sane method of encoding chrominance |
| 11:57 | <cygnus> | ok, yeah, i will do that and see if that fixes it |
| 11:57 | <cygnus> | thanks for indulging my curiosity ;) |
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| 12:22 | <Rince> | well |
| 12:22 | <Rince> | I did the cat |
| 12:22 | <Rince> | I transferred on a machine where I usually hear music or see short movies |
| 12:22 | <Rince> | Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3 |
| 12:22 | <Rince> | MP3lib: init layer2&3 finished, tables done |
| 12:22 | <Rince> | AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, 16 bit (0x10), ratio: 48000->192000 (384,0 kbit) |
| 12:22 | <Rince> | Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm:mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3) |
| 12:22 | <Rince> | but no sound :( |
| 12:24 | <Peit|work> | sounds like you don't have the audio working.. what input are you using to capture (tuner or composite?) |
| 12:24 | <Rince> | tuner |
| 12:24 | <Rince> | but |
| 12:24 | <Peit|work> | lets go back to #ivtv-dev |
| 12:24 | <Rince> | crystalball:~# dmesg|grep audio |
| 12:24 | <Rince> | saa7115[0] set audio: 0x02 |
| 12:24 | <mdz> | Rince: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html |
| 12:24 | <Rince> | ooops, sorry ;) |
| 12:25 | <Chutt> | that's only for analog cards |
| 12:25 | <Peit|work> | mdz, i think rince is capturing with a pvr-[2|3]50 and thus that's not relevant :) |
| 12:25 | <Snow-Man> | mdz: In the debs, what made me pick 127.0.0.1 as the IP addy to give instead of a public addy? :) |
| 12:25 | <mdz> | Peit|work: I see that now; I think he was carrying over a conversation from another channel and I didn't have the context |
| 12:25 | <Rince> | mdz: alsa itself is working fine, since I can hear something with mpg123 |
| 12:25 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: that's the default |
| 12:26 | <Chutt> | rince, http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=1#q18 |
| 12:26 | <Snow-Man> | mdz: Gotta hack up the db then to get over-the-network play to work. :/ |
| 12:26 | <Chutt> | the last sentence in that answer is most often the problem |
| 12:26 | <Chutt> | snow-man, run setup |
| 12:26 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: you have to what? |
| 12:26 | <Peit|work> | and chutt beat me to it :) |
| 12:26 | <Snow-Man> | I did anyway. :) |
| 12:26 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: I already made the change. |
| 12:27 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: the debs don't attempt to do any configuration other than setting up the database |
| 12:27 | <Snow-Man> | mdz: mythfrontend looks up the IP addy of the master in the database. |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | you don't have to hack up the db, you just have to set it properly when you first run setup |
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| 12:27 | <mdz> | fucking xchat |
| 12:27 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: it displays a debconf note saying to run setup |
| 12:27 | <mdz> | which is where all of the configuration (other than the database) happens |
| 12:28 | <Snow-Man> | Erm, well, I changed the IP addy of the master in the database and that fixed mythfrontned being confused. |
| 12:28 | <Snow-Man> | I'm guessing setup must change that and not the debs then? |
| 12:28 | <Snow-Man> | Or do both set it? |
| 12:28 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: does it have to do with creating the mysql database? :-) |
| 12:28 | <Chutt> | needs both |
| 12:28 | <mdz> | that is all that the debs do |
| 12:28 | <Chutt> | one's what the frontend talks to to get to the master |
| 12:28 | <mdz> | set up the database |
| 12:29 | <Snow-Man> | mdz: That's the thing, the debs set up the database, which apparently was wrong, in this case at least. |
| 12:29 | <mdz> | everything else is done by setup |
| 12:29 | <Chutt> | the other is what that particular backend tells the frontend to use |
| 12:29 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: Ah, ok, yeah, I did have to change both. |
| 12:29 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: I am not following you at all. The debs create an (empty) database. setup is responsible for placing all of the configuration data there |
| 12:29 | <Snow-Man> | I just changed all the 127.0.0.1's to the right IP addy. |
| 12:30 | <Snow-Man> | mdz: I guess I just remember something in debconf asking me for the IP addy to use for the master on the backend or something. |
| 12:30 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: yeah, that was in older versions before that moved into the database |
| 12:31 | <mdz> | used to be in the text config file along with the database connection info |
| 12:31 | <Snow-Man> | Ah. I think you still need to remove it from the mythfrontend, anyway. It asks for the backend to talk to but doesn't do anything with it, apparently. |
| 12:32 | <mdz> | mythtv (0.13-6) unstable; urgency=low |
| 12:32 | <mdz> | * Add a check to ensure that the package isn't being built under /usr, |
| 12:32 | <mdz> | due to #180240 (which shows no signs of being fixed) |
| 12:32 | <mdz> | * Remove debconf prompts from mythtv-frontend which used to be used to |
| 12:32 | <mdz> | configure the backend location; this is now done inside the UI |
| 12:34 | <Snow-Man> | yay. :) |
| 12:34 | <killerbun> | which cheap tv-in is best ? |
| 12:34 | <killerbun> | most supported, gives best picture etc. |
| 12:35 | <Snow-Man> | mdz: Has that been uploaded yet? Did you just fix that in the last like day or two? :P |
| 12:35 | * | Snow-Man wonders why his laptop isn't on. |
| 12:37 | <Snow-Man> | I installed all this stuff over the weekend and I think I must have 0.13-5 everywhere atm. |
| 12:40 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: you emailed me about this like a week ago, and I fixed it right away |
| 12:40 | <Snow-Man> | I did? |
| 12:40 | <mdz>mythtv | 0.13-6 | http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu unstable/mythtv Packages |
| 12:40 | <mdz> | or said something on IRC maybe |
| 12:40 | <Snow-Man> | Maybe I'm off by a week. |
| 12:41 | <mdz> | Jan 24 08:01:42 <Snow-Man> mdz: I was going to ask you how to get mythfrontend to talk to a backend server on a different host, since the debconf stuff doesn't appear to do anything. |
| 12:41 | <mdz> | ok, 2 days ago |
| 12:41 | <m |
