| --- | Log | opened Sun Jan 25 00:00:02 2004 |
| --- | Day | changed Sun Jan 25 2004 |
| 00:00 | <pahli_bar> | aceat64: i don't use it. read it on the dev list that the developer (Chutt?) is not maintaining it anymore |
| 00:00 | <Niqo> | aceat64: because gentoo is still for the one which looks around himself |
| 00:01 | <pahli_bar> | pmowry: its like asking: should a wear the red jacket or the blue one! |
| 00:01 | <Niqo> | phali_bar: he wrote it for the users, shouldn't anyone be satisfied then? |
| 00:01 | <pmowry> | =) |
| 00:01 | <pahli_bar> | Niqo: ?? |
| 00:02 | <Niqo> | phali_bar: nobody cares! |
| 00:03 | <pahli_bar> | Niqo: at least i don't |
| 00:03 | <Niqo> | ie: no-one's caring enough to fix it... (he wrote the main code...)... |
| 00:03 | <pahli_bar> | Niqo: ahh. |
| 00:04 | <Niqo> | and he's not even using it himself, so... |
| 00:04 | <pahli_bar> | Niqo: thats what ive heard |
| 00:05 | <Niqo> | i belive Chutt (Isaac) has a mini-itx (epia m10k) |
| 00:06 | <Niqo> | i bet there is plenty of features for the one that cares to fix xvmc though (clearer picture) |
| 00:07 | <Niqo> | because, the decoding would not be in the libavcodec anymore, but the nvidia chip (or intel) and that's got to be an enhancement |
| 00:09 | <aceat64> | aww mythnews doesn't allow viewing the whole story? |
| 00:09 | <pahli_bar> | aceat64: rss feeds only have so much info |
| 00:09 | <aceat64> | oh |
| 00:09 | <aceat64> | :( |
| 00:09 | <pahli_bar> | aceat64: what you are seeing is all the info it can get |
| 00:11 | <ChaosExiguum> | OT: opportunity landed OK |
| 00:12 | <thor_> | the little green men are just waiting for dark |
| 00:12 | <pahli_bar> | heh |
| 00:13 | <ChaosExiguum> | lol |
| 00:15 | <aceat64> | little green men? they're blue, it's just that the camera's colors are off |
| 00:21 | <Niqo> | ;) |
| 00:22 | <skywarper> | is there anyway to change the installation directory? |
| 00:22 | <skywarper> | s/anyway/any way/ |
| 00:22 | <pahli_bar> | skywarper: look at settings.pro |
| 00:23 | <skywarper> | ah, thnx! |
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| 00:27 | <Niqo> | so Chutt is actually playing with his laptop still :) he has never (at least to my knowledge) been out of this channel for this long.. |
| 00:28 | <Niqo> | he dropped in very late yesterday though (very early here) |
| 00:29 | * | DiMaestro beats his head onto his deask. |
| 00:29 | <DiMaestro> | excuse me, I just figured out something that's been bugging me for a while, and I feel my 'tard level increased by 3. |
| 00:29 | <pahli_bar> | amazing... some comparisons for loading a 1600x1200 jpeg image: imagemagick 0.216558s, qimage 0.183069s, imlib2 0.005131s |
| 00:29 | * | Niqo wonders if DiMaestro has problems inside or outside his head |
| 00:29 | <DiMaestro> | Both. :) |
| 00:30 | <DiMaestro> | I'm just installing KnoppMyth on my sk41G w/ pvr-250 and didn't have any mpeg audio.. turns out it was muted. |
| 00:30 | <Niqo> | ;) |
| 00:31 | * | Niqo thinks that would be related to inside...hehe |
| 00:31 | <DiMaestro> | hahahaha |
| 00:31 | <DiMaestro> | yea, the vast empty spaces inside. :) |
| 00:31 | <Niqo> | why not just chop it of, ja? |
| 00:31 | <DiMaestro> | That would help those issues, but I fear other problems would crop up because of that. |
| 00:32 | <Niqo> | aha, det ville vert ille |
| 00:32 | <Niqo> | ups: aha, that would be bad |
| 00:32 | <DiMaestro> | haha, thanks. :) |
| 00:33 | <DiMaestro> | now just to figure our LIRC config. |
| 00:35 | * | Niqo wonders how one would go forth to reboot a mind (I want to do that, sad, but true)? |
| 00:36 | <DiMaestro> | soft or hard reboot? |
| 00:37 | <Niqo> | hard, but soft would do if it would work.. |
| 00:38 | <DiMaestro> | damnit, it loses the testio_ctl mute setting on reboot. |
| 00:38 | <skywarper> | hard reboot probably would involve some highvoltage electronics |
| 00:39 | <skywarper> | that means, do not try at home |
| 00:39 | <Niqo> | that has nothing to do with my mind reboot, //kick DIMeaestro ;) |
| 00:39 | <DiMaestro> | sorry. :) |
| 00:39 | <DiMaestro> | Yea, good voltage should init a reboot process, but it may harm the filesystem. |
| 00:40 | <skywarper> | that's not a problem if you have a backup |
| 00:40 | <Niqo> | good sugesstion at least, and even considering the consequences |
| 00:40 | <skywarper> | you should always have a backup anyway |
| 00:40 | <Niqo> | how to recover from a failure |
| 00:41 | <Niqo> | when the main cpu won't actuall y work |
| 00:42 | <skywarper> | how much would you pay for a pvr-250 card? |
| 00:42 | <DiMaestro> | I paid 139 USD. |
| 00:46 | <skywarper> | ok |
| 00:46 | <pahli_bar> | skywarper: are you planning on buying retail? |
| 00:46 | <skywarper> | hmm.. i found a used one for 60 euro |
| 00:47 | <skywarper> | but i'm not sure what model it is.. he's not sure either |
| 00:47 | <pahli_bar> | skywarper: ebay usually has them cheaper... |
| 00:47 | <skywarper> | it has a remote and scart-thing |
| 00:48 | <skywarper> | it has FM too, can it be a PVR-350? |
| 00:50 | <DiMaestro> | time to sleep, g'nite all. |
| 00:50 | = | DiMaestro [~DiMaestro@host-187-244-9-69.midco.net] quit ("My wookie tells me to burn things.") |
| 00:50 | <Niqo> | skywarper: you should avoid buying used equipent (at least in my country) {, love to hear about rules in yours}? |
| 00:50 | <skywarper> | digood night |
| 00:51 | <skywarper> | Niqo: why, you mean it might be stolen? |
| 00:51 | <pahli_bar> | Niqo: what county would that be |
| 00:52 | <skywarper> | i've gotta go, bye |
| 00:52 | <Niqo> | Norway |
| 00:52 | <Niqo> | bye |
| 00:52 | <Niqo> | night |
| 00:54 | <Niqo> | skywarper: no, it might be that when you pay for the packet at the post office, it does not contain what was intented at all... |
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| 00:55 | <Niqo> | offcourse this abuse is traceable in our country, it makes the customer go through a lot of legal procedures |
| 00:55 | <michal> | i thought i'd give it another go before i returned the keyboard.. does anyone here know if it's possible to get an ir keyboard working at the linux console via lirc? |
| 00:56 | <pahli_bar> | michal: usb receiver? |
| 00:56 | <michal> | yes |
| 00:56 | <thor_> | ir keyboards really suck (line of sight) |
| 00:56 | <michal> | via lirc though |
| 00:56 | <Niqo> | thor_: agree |
| 00:56 | <pahli_bar> | michal: then it should work as a normal keyboard. (lirc not needed/won't work) |
| 00:57 | <michal> | better than no keyboard at all |
| 00:57 | <thor_> | touche |
| 00:57 | <ChaosExiguum> | rf keyboards really suck (in my house) rf interference |
| 00:57 | <michal> | it can ONLY work via lirc.. unless i write new drivers for it (which i won't) |
| 00:57 | <pahli_bar> | michal: where did you get that info? |
| 00:57 | <Niqo> | michal: na, get a real remote |
| 00:58 | <Niqo> | ChaosE.: ?? like interference from what? |
| 00:58 | <michal> | so there's no way to get lirc to repeat keys to the linux console? |
| 00:59 | <michal> | i have 8 real remotes |
| 00:59 | <michal> | i don't like any of them |
| 00:59 | <michal> | i keep buying them but i can't find anything decent |
| 00:59 | <ChaosExiguum> | Niqo, I dont know, but I'm always having to hold the KB at odd angles or move closer or pick a new frequency to make it work happy |
| 00:59 | <michal> | pahli_bar: which info? |
| 00:59 | <Niqo> | michal: lirc sucks bigtime on repeating (my ati remote wonder sends 5 codes, and then repeats by sending x amount but lirc,, not) |
| 00:59 | <pahli_bar> | michal: that the keyboard will work only with lirc |
| 01:00 | <michal> | well i have the same problem with the remote i currently use |
| 01:00 | <michal> | a Loewe one |
| 01:00 | <michal> | the mode i use to control the pvr sends an nec code but then sends rc5 codes on repeat :/ |
| 01:00 | <pahli_bar> | http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Infrared-HOWTO/infrared-howto-s-keyboard-connection.html |
| 01:01 | <michal> | pahli_bar: because the usb transceiver only supports lirc |
| 01:02 | <michal> | http://www.irtrans.de/english/index.htm |
| 01:02 | <Niqo> | ChaosE. : that might be because of range as I have the same issue here (although i did not with my prev keyboard/mouse setup (this is for my desktop so i don't care much, but it might be that there was to much 'hacking' hoing on with the old ranges)) |
| 01:02 | <Niqo> | s/hoing/going/ |
| 01:02 | <michal> | the problem is it would be pointless to have the ir keyboard if i can only use the tv controls on it and not the other keys |
| 01:04 | <michal> | so.. anyone know of any way to repeat lirc keys to the linux console? |
| 01:04 | <michal> | or any way of emulating a keyboard via lirc at all |
| 01:04 | <ChaosExiguum> | Niqo, I figured much the same thing.. if I am close enough (3-5ft) they keyboards signal is strong enough to get past, so its works okay |
| 01:05 | * | Niqo thinks it's very cool that you (US) have landed successfully on mars for the second time! |
| 01:05 | * | ChaosExiguum wishes he had NASA TV |
| 01:06 | * | Niqo thinks that beagle should have made it (bah) |
| 01:06 | <pahli_bar> | michal: irpty? |
| 01:07 | <Niqo> | Chaos E. : yea, that's the ditance, strangely, it seems overcencitive to angle changes... |
| 01:07 | <michal> | pahli_bar: hmm.. havn't heard of that yet |
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| 01:08 | <Niqo> | michal: can't you configure the board to emit different key events? |
| 01:10 | <michal> | Niqo: what do you mean? i can't configure the keyboard to do anything at all.. i can use the irtrans transceiver to capture the signals it sends and assign lirc button names to those.. and that's all i can do |
| 01:11 | <pahli_bar> | if you follow Niqo's suggestion and fully map all the keys to keyevents, you can use it under X11 with irxevent |
| 01:12 | <michal> | how do you map lirc events to keyevents? |
| 01:12 | <pahli_bar> | michal: just like you did for myth |
| 01:13 | * | Niqo Everyone should remember that; Everything is possible; what matters is how fast the penguin can walk! |
| 01:13 | <michal> | i don't actually use myth.. but i use another pvr app that uses lirc |
| 01:13 | <pahli_bar> | throw michal out :) |
| 01:14 | <Niqo> | yea |
| 01:14 | <pahli_bar> | what is this general purpose support channel. |
| 01:14 | <michal> | lirc |
| 01:14 | <michal> | this is the only channel on the planet that knows anything about it |
| 01:15 | <pahli_bar> | whatever. read the docs for irxevent, you will find the answers there |
| 01:15 | <michal> | well i don't run X on the box so i don't know if it will be helpful :/ |
| 01:16 | <Niqo> | switch to mythtv, and enable native lirc support |
| 01:16 | <michal> | or is the X nothing to do with X11 ? |
| 01:16 | <michal> | mythtv doesn't support my hardware |
| 01:16 | <Niqo> | bah |
| 01:16 | <Niqo> | does lirc support your hardware? |
| 01:17 | <pahli_bar> | michal: you know that there is www.lirc.org and they have mailing lists there? |
| 01:17 | <michal> | lirc isn't directly involved.. only lirc clients are :/ |
| 01:17 | <michal> | the lirc server is provided by the irtrans device |
| 01:17 | <Niqo> | :that's called politics |
| 01:18 | <michal> | the lirc mailing lists are utterly useless.. still waiting for a response to soomething i asked about a year ago |
| 01:18 | <Niqo> | <Niqo> does lirc support your hardware? |
| 01:18 | <michal> | i already answered that question |
| 01:18 | * | pahli_bar is going to emulate the same here |
| 01:19 | <Niqo> | Is this the answer??: <michal> lirc isn't directly involved.. only lirc clients are :/ |
| 01:19 | <michal> | yes. i don't use the lirc server |
| 01:19 | <michal> | or lirc config files |
| 01:20 | <michal> | i can however use lirc clients |
| 01:20 | <michal> | including the ones that come with lirc |
| 01:20 | <Niqo> | bull, lirc is a lirc daemon...anything else is called hacking (which I enjoy) |
| 01:20 | <Niqo> | the core of lirc that is |
| 01:20 | <michal> | like i said.. http://www.irtrans.de/english/index.htm |
| 01:21 | <michal> | i don't use the daemon |
| 01:21 | <michal> | something OTHER than lirc provides the daemon |
| 01:22 | <michal> | "To integrate IR Trans into existing environments the server software supports LIRC Clients" |
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| 01:23 | * | Niqo browsed... |
| 01:24 | * | Niqo ...but the page was unclear, so he didn't bother |
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| 01:25 | <michal> | nothing unclear there.. it's clearly spelled out in English (and German) |
| 01:25 | <ChaosExiguum> | Niqo, the jist of it is that it pretends to be the lirc daemon |
| 01:25 | <michal> | isn't it gist? |
| 01:25 | <ChaosExiguum> | probably |
| 01:25 | <michal> | but that is the gist yes |
| 01:25 | <Niqo> | yea, tell me how to use the dvb-s card of www.linuxtv.org in less than 5min? |
| 01:26 | <michal> | download the drivers |
| 01:26 | <michal> | compile them |
| 01:26 | <michal> | load them |
| 01:26 | <michal> | use scan to generate a channels conf file |
| 01:26 | <Niqo> | and it won't wokr |
| 01:26 | <michal> | works for me |
| 01:26 | <Niqo> | irw? |
| 01:26 | <michal> | irw? |
| 01:27 | * | pahli_bar suggests the same for michal for his keyboard problem |
| 01:27 | <Niqo> | irw; is a program that is used for testing if the lircd daemon works |
| 01:27 | <michal> | i'm just wondering what this has to do with either your problem or mine :/ |
| 01:28 | <Niqo> | so, since that program emulates the daemon, it has to work |
| 01:28 | <michal> | but how does irw come into the picture? it doesn't actually do anything useful |
| 01:28 | <Niqo> | that program beeing the messy url you directed me to |
| 01:29 | <michal> | irw - sends data from Unix domain socket to stdout |
| 01:29 | <michal> | why would i want to send data to stdout? |
| 01:29 | <Niqo> | irw outputs anything that is received from the lircd daemon |
| 01:30 | <michal> | but how do i turn that into input for a linux console? |
| 01:30 | <Niqo> | arg, run ./irw and you'll see |
| 01:30 | <Niqo> | if it works that is |
| 01:30 | <michal> | ie.. how do i get irkbd_l followed by irkbd_s followed by irkbd_return to generate ls on the console followed by a carriage return |
| 01:30 | <michal> | and the resulting listing |
| 01:31 | <michal> | i KNOW the lirc daemon emulation works.. i've been using it for months |
| 01:31 | <Niqo> | what? |
| 01:32 | <ChaosExiguum> | michal, you could write a program to do just that |
| 01:32 | <Niqo> | if you know the lirc source, you should have figured this out by now (I did with my ati remote, a bug in the source) |
| 01:32 | <michal> | in theory i could.. but in practice i doubt it could do it in the time i could allocate to it.. there would be a lot of reading about how keyboard input under linux works necessary first |
| 01:33 | <Niqo> | hu? just watch and learn |
| 01:33 | <ChaosExiguum> | you may be able to hack up one of the existing input drivers rather quickly, I dont know for sure though |
| 01:33 | <Niqo> | you have some cells working right? |
| 01:33 | <michal> | i don't know the lirc source because i've had no need to.. but if i knew how to write a program that could echo keypresses to linux then i'd be almost all of the way there |
| 01:34 | <Niqo> | that's what the debugging options in lirc is fore |
| 01:34 | <michal> | even a program that could do essentially "keypress l" and send that eypress to the console as if it were a real keypress would solve all my problems |
| 01:34 | <pahli_bar> | michal: i suggest that instread of wasting your time here... get going with it |
| 01:35 | <Niqo> | <Niqo> that's what the debugging options in lirc is for |
| 01:36 | <michal> | well at this stage it doesn't look like i'll even have the time to start.. today is almost over, tommorow is out, and tuesday is the last chance for me to return the keyboard if i need to.. so i won't take a $100 risk on what i will very likely never have the time to do (it took me 2 monehts to find the time to teach my system the keys on the remote) |
| 01:36 | <michal> | considering that ii don't use lirc the debugging options in lirc don't really interest me |
| 01:36 | <Niqo> | <Niqo> that's what the debugging options in lirc is for |
| 01:37 | <michal> | and a ferrari is a great car.. but what has that got to do with this? |
| 01:37 | <Niqo> | you really dont care to listen, just nag!!!! |
| 01:37 | <Niqo> | <Niqo> that's what the debugging options in lirc is for |
| 01:38 | <michal> | what are the lirc debugging options for? debugging programs which are NOT lirc? |
| 01:38 | <Niqo> | what is linux for: the community; everyone contributes, if you don't care to do that, fine, bye |
| 01:38 | <Niqo> | <Niqo> that's what the debugging options in lirc is for |
| 01:38 | <michal> | don't be a tool. repeating something stupid doesn't make it intelligent. |
| 01:38 | <Niqo> | <Niqo> that's what the debugging options in lirc is for |
| 01:39 | <pahli_bar> | michal: get the hint and leave... |
| 01:39 | <Niqo> | <Niqo> that's what the debugging options in lirc is for |
| 01:39 | <michal> | i'm quite happy with having the retard repeat himself |
| 01:39 | <Niqo> | <Niqo> that's what the debugging options in lirc is for |
| 01:40 | <ChaosExiguum> | michal, #mythtv is not a freebie support channel, remember that you are lucky to get any help considering you are not using mythtv even |
| 01:41 | <pahli_bar> | its not even a user support channel. its "supposed" to be a dev channel |
| 01:41 | <michal> | ChaosExiguum: doesn't mean i have to put up with retards who repeat something juvenile despite having the reasons it's not relevant explained to them in a civilised manner |
| 01:42 | * | Niqo ; Yay, NASA put it's second probe safely... |
| 01:42 | <Niqo> | who had the bot control again? either me or him |
| 01:43 | * | Niqo ; nice wokr |
| 01:43 | * | Niqo ; to bad our beagle got cratered ;) |
| 01:48 | <ChaosExiguum> | its bed time here in EST zone (1am-ish), goodnight |
| 01:48 | <Niqo> | gnight |
| 01:49 | aceat64 | is now known as aceat64`away |
| 01:50 | <michal> | ugh.. i think i had better give up on the keyboard anyway.. the signals it sends aren't consistent and change totally depending on how long the keys are pressed.. problem solved :/ |
| 01:51 | <Niqo> | bah, that sucks |
| 01:51 | <michal> | amusingly enough it's designed for a set top box which runs linux :/ |
| 01:52 | <Niqo> | actually, I care with out, but yet again, not...if you see me...I tried...you where kinda rude... |
| 01:53 | <michal> | you were also rude screaming about lirc debug options whne i wasn't even running lirc |
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| 01:54 | <michal> | anyway.. the keyboard is for this thing.. http://player.teac.com.au/ |
| 01:54 | <Niqo> | then again, you where actually advertising very well that lirc was a part of it at least |
| 01:54 | <Zman> | Anyone get their PVR 350 and TV out working I am having a hell of a time... |
| 01:54 | <michal> | no. not a part.. it simple emulated the server part so that it eas transparent to lirc clientds |
| 01:56 | <Zman> | can any one offer any suggestions? |
| 01:56 | <Niqo> | Zman: try one of these: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Users_F11/ --- http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?guest=2130778&t=search_engine&do=search_results&search_forum=all&search_string=pvr+350+remote&search_type=AND&search_fields=sb&search_time=&search_user_username=&mh=25 |
| 01:56 | <pahli_bar> | Zman: i suggest an apple in the morning. |
| 01:56 | <pahli_bar> | sorry. |
| 01:57 | <pahli_bar> | Zman: http://www-isl.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de/~hi93/myth/mythtv_debian_epia_pvr350_walkthrough |
| 01:57 | <Zman> | Thanks I believe I have tried those sites.. I can partially get it working except the menu is on the PC and when viewing a recorded video that will show up on my tv |
| 01:57 | <Zman> | I am partly there but can not figure out what else needs to be done.. |
| 01:59 | <Niqo> | did you try my urls? |
| 02:00 | <Niqo> | sorry, michal: i can't figure it out |
| 02:00 | <Zman> | I am marking them down Niqo some of them look familar, but will go through them and see if they shed some light |
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| 02:06 | <ShockValue> | hey all.. is /dev/lirc supposed to be a directory? seems to be messin up my lirc experience. |
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| 02:12 | <pigeon> | hmm, this might sound dumb, but how do i stop a recording? |
| 02:12 | <pigeon> | stopping a recording started with instant recording option. |
| 02:16 | <Niqo> | go to the tv/guide screen and press 'I' and select 'stop recording' |
| 02:16 | <pahli_bar> | or just delete the recording |
| 02:17 | <Niqo> | ? |
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| 02:18 | <pigeon> | hmm |
| 02:18 | <pigeon> | there isn't a 'stop recording' when i press i |
| 02:18 | <Niqo> | then it have not started recording... |
| 02:19 | <pigeon> | hmm |
| 02:19 | <pigeon> | but it is still recording... |
| 02:19 | <Niqo> | you should press i on the show that's recording.. |
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| 02:20 | <pigeon> | hmm, the status is not "Not Recording" for that slot, but the backend is still recording it. |
| 02:22 | <Niqo> | hm, wiered, could you provide a backtrace? |
| 02:22 | <pigeon> | of...? |
| 02:22 | <Niqo> | the backend |
| 02:23 | <pigeon> | hmm, gdb it now you mean? |
| 02:23 | <Niqo> | would mess up your recording..but.. |
| 02:23 | <pigeon> | it's ok. |
| 02:23 | <Niqo> | yea, gdb <pid> |
| 02:24 | <Niqo> | and then it says it has terminated (or so the tasj) |
| 02:24 | <pigeon> | hmm there are quite a lot of threads... |
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| 02:25 | <ShockValue> | i figgered it out. kernel 2.6 makes it /dev/lirc/lirc0 |
| 02:25 | <Niqo> | do a: 'thread apply all bt full', and post a detailed description to mythtv-dev |
| 02:26 | <Niqo> | just to have all bases covered |
| 02:26 | <pigeon> | ok |
| 02:26 | <pigeon> | and what in particular I should be looking for in the trace? |
| 02:26 | <pigeon> | 16 threads i have here |
| 02:26 | <Niqo> | dunno really, i have not seen it yet ;) |
| 02:27 | <Niqo> | yea,sounds somewhat right |
| 02:27 | <Niqo> | (much ay) |
| 02:28 | <pigeon> | hmm according to the recorded table, its end time is coming soon. |
| 02:28 | <pigeon> | instant recording by default records one hour? |
| 02:30 | <Niqo> | instant recording should record the current program |
| 02:31 | <pigeon> | and will never stop? |
| 02:32 | <pigeon> | what about if i stop the backend now |
| 02:33 | <pigeon> | well |
| 02:33 | <pigeon> | that seems to stop the recording. |
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| 02:38 | <pigeon> | hmm, there isn't a way to toggle mythtv to not playback live tv from the buffer right? |
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| 02:39 | <pahli_bar> | pigeon: no |
| 02:39 | <pigeon> | ok |
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| 02:44 | <pigeon> | hmm one more question. is there a way to transcode/save what's in the live tv buffer into a recording? |
| 02:44 | <Niqo> | THIS NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED BEFORE RELEASE: After about an hour of watching LiveTV, there is some skipping/pausing. (mail for detailed info) |
| 02:46 | <Niqo> | pigeon: like when you are watching livetv and would have wanted to record the show that's in the buffer by pressing 'r', no, but i've thought about implementing it |
| 02:47 | <pigeon> | ok |
| 02:47 | <pigeon> | that's good. |
| 02:47 | <pigeon> | i was trying to record this tv ad. |
| 02:47 | <pigeon> | and i wasn't recording it. |
| 02:47 | <pigeon> | and it's just shown on tv. |
| 02:47 | <pigeon> | and it was still in the livetv buffer. |
| 02:48 | <Niqo> | you could go to the epg with 'm' and then press 'r' to record from now I think |
| 02:49 | <Niqo> | yea, would have been nice to at least be able to save the buffer... |
| 02:50 | <Niqo> | kinda, press 'r' and get a 'edit bar' (as the commercial one, if you've seen it), and edit roughly where you could record from |
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| 03:11 | <ShockValue> | ok, this is my first try at lirc+myth.. im getting the following error: |
| 03:11 | <ShockValue> | mythtv: could not connect to socket |
| 03:11 | <ShockValue> | mythtv: Permission denied |
| 03:11 | <ShockValue> | Failed to create lirc socket for mythtv |
| 03:11 | <ShockValue> | any pointers? |
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| 03:26 | <mdz> | reading the error messages would be a good start |
| 03:41 | <DogBoy> | anybody know why after a hard drive install that groovy mozilla icon turns into an "m" sooner or later? |
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| 03:57 | <ShockValue> | any suggestions? |
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| 04:54 | <tetra> | hello all |
| 04:54 | <tetra> | somebody please help me |
| 04:54 | <tetra> | I've been pulling my hair for three days now trying to get mythtv's mythfilldatabase --manual to work |
| 04:56 | <tetra> | the thing just freezes after getting listings, it finds the first channel, and freezes after it has displayed ### tvformat = then nothing has happened |
| 04:56 | <tetra> | anybody? |
| 05:02 | <tetra> | please...? |
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| 05:16 | <dmitry> | anyone alive in here? |
| 05:19 | <tetra> | i am, that i know of |
| 05:21 | <dmitry> | i see |
| 05:21 | <tetra> | lol |
| 05:21 | <dmitry> | ok im going to sleep |
| 05:22 | <dmitry> | brain no fucntion |
| 05:22 | <tetra> | niteynite |
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| 05:30 | <tetra> | I've been pulling my hair for three days now trying to get mythtv's mythfilldatabase --manual to work |
| 05:30 | <tetra> | the thing just freezes after getting listings, it finds the first channel, and freezes after it has displayed ### tvformat = then nothing has happened |
| 05:30 | <tetra> | can anyone help me, please? |
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| 05:53 | <tetra> | can anyone help me, please? |
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| 06:07 | <tetra> | anybody please, this is driving me crazy |
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| 06:58 | <ceed> | can you recommend any cards next to the hauppauge wintv pvr? |
| 06:58 | <ceed> | tetra: it doesn't freeze, it expects input |
| 07:01 | <tetra> | ceed, it won't go past even if i enter something |
| 07:03 | <tetra> | it worked before with mythtv 0.12, but since my filesystem crash, i installed a fresh system with mythtv-0.13, now it won't work |
| 07:03 | <tetra> | here's the output: |
| 07:03 | <tetra> | getting list of channels: ################################################## |
| 07:03 | <tetra> | getting listings: ################################################## |
| 07:03 | <tetra> | ------------------ End of XMLTV output ------------------ |
| 07:03 | <tetra> | ### |
| 07:03 | <tetra> | ### New channel found |
| 07:03 | <tetra> | ### |
| 07:03 | <tetra> | ### name = TV 1 |
| 07:03 | <tetra> | ### callsign = |
| 07:04 | <tetra> | ### channum = |
| 07:04 | <tetra> | ### finetune = |
| 07:04 | <tetra> | ### tvformat = |
| 07:04 | <tetra> | nothing happens if I enter something in there |
| 07:04 | <StuartL> | tetra: Can you keep large pastes off channel please? |
| 07:04 | <tetra> | StuartL, sure, sorry about that |
| 07:04 | <StuartL> | np :) |
| 07:05 | <tetra> | I just thought that would explain better than my poor english |
| 07:06 | <StuartL> | Heh. |
| 07:06 | <StuartL> | Have you run strace on it to see where it's stopping? |
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| 07:07 | <StuartL> | You'll need a fair idea about *nix programming to understand the output... |
| 07:08 | <tetra> | noooooooooooooo |
| 07:12 | <ceed> | humm now i run into a problem myself |
| 07:12 | <ceed> | ran |
| 07:12 | <ceed> | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 07:12 | <ceed> | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 07:13 | <ceed> | when i try to switch a channel |
| 07:13 | <ceed> | that's from the mythbackend |
| 07:18 | <tetra> | oh crap |
| 07:18 | <tetra> | how do i use mythfilldatabase with --xawchannels ? what is cardinput? |
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| 07:37 | <ceed> | tetra: do you know sql? |
| 07:38 | <tetra> | ceed, very little |
| 07:38 | <ceed> | use mythconverg; |
| 07:38 | <ceed> | select sourceid from cardinput; |
| 07:38 | <tetra> | lol, that was easy |
| 07:38 | <tetra> | thanks, |
| 07:58 | <ceed> | humm, x11 doesn't consume all the available space of the tv screen |
| 07:58 | <ceed> | how can i stretch the area the x11 server uses ? |
| 08:08 | <tetra> | sounds like you don't have Xvideo extension working |
| 08:08 | <tetra> | I'm not sure though |
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| 08:38 | <ceed> | channel switching is giving me headaches |
| 08:38 | <ceed> | sigh |
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| 08:52 | <ceed> | any developer here? i run into some serious problems hehe |
| 08:53 | <ceed> | well no need for a developer probably |
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| 08:58 | <ceed> | alright this is really strange, channel switching really is giving me a headache, as i said, i set cardinput.externalcommand to /usr/bin/channelchange.sh, which looks like that: |
| 08:58 | <ceed> | #!/bin/bash |
| 08:58 | <ceed> | echo $0 $1 >> /tmp/changechannel |
| 08:58 | <ceed> | /usr/bin/v4lctl setchannel $1 |
| 08:59 | <ceed> | actually it's changechannel.sh, but nevermind |
| 08:59 | <ceed> | so when i try to switch a channel, the correct channel is shown in /tmp/changechannel, but the channel simply won't change |
| 09:00 | <ceed> | when i just copy & paste the last line of /tmp/changechannel, and execute it, it bloody changes the channel |
| 09:00 | <ceed> | i'm not getting this, some permission problem? |
| 09:00 | <skywarper> | are you sure you should use the second argument? |
| 09:01 | <ceed> | yes, $0 is the executable |
| 09:01 | <ceed> | the script being called |
| 09:01 | <ceed> | here is an example of /tmp/changechannel |
| 09:01 | <ceed> | /usr/bin/changechannel.sh SE16 |
| 09:01 | <ceed> | /usr/bin/changechannel.sh E2 |
| 09:01 | <ceed> | /usr/bin/changechannel.sh E10 |
| 09:02 | <ceed> | and now when i just copy & paste one of those lines, and execute it, the channel is changed |
| 09:03 | <skywarper> | ah ok |
| 09:04 | <skywarper> | seems strange |
| 09:23 | <ceed> | yes, that's a strange problem, indeed |
| 09:24 | <tetra> | arghhh, fsck. now mythtv complaints about unknown codec, what the hell is going on? |
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| 09:57 | <tetra> | well what do you know, i installed mythtv-0.12 and everything works like a charm again...so mythtv-0.13 is buggybuggybuggy |
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| 10:05 | <Peit|Home> | anyonw here got the hauppauge remote working for a pvr-350? |
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| 10:34 | <ceed> | oh well, i posted my problem on mythtv-users |
| 10:34 | <ceed> | let's see |
| 10:39 | <gerhard> | hi all, I need some help with mythgames. where do i find the games |
| 10:44 | <skywarper> | hehe :) |
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| 11:03 | <servo> | well I fudged up mythtv last night *sigh*. I though I would experiment by running mjpeg instead of standard v4l; which didn't work... So I set the changes back but mythtv didn't like that so I got that horrible fuzzy pictre again *sigh*. So now i'm following the same steps as before; killing off my database; and starting a fresh one :-) |
| 11:04 | <servo> | but xmltv is slow :-(... |
| 11:11 | <Peit|Home> | mysqldump is your friend :) |
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| 11:12 | <ceed> | yeah after setting up my channel table for a couple of times i started dumping it, too |
| 11:12 | <ceed> | hehe |
| 11:12 | <servo> | good idea Peit! I'll just back up the database! whoot |
| 11:13 | <servo> | that'll save me a load of time |
| 11:13 | <ceed> | why is it always me with the strange problems? |
| 11:17 | <servo> | I'm getting the strange problems also :-( |
| 11:17 | <servo> | but im still fighting |
| 11:18 | <servo> | it seems to me that their is some bug with how the database is updated and how the backend read data... For example I changed from v4l to mjpeg; it didn't work so I changed back to mjpeg and v4l as it was normaly and it didn't come back to normal as it was suppose to =-(. |
| 11:18 | <servo> | there* |
| 11:19 | <servo> | I restarted mysqld, the backend and frontend. It still didn't change |
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| 11:21 | <Matt> | hmm |
| 11:21 | <Matt> | just thinking, is there any plan to integrate a screensaver in the menusystem? |
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| 11:22 | <servo> | would that be needed? If you use mythtv as a tv; then when your done watching it you could just turn off the tv. |
| 11:22 | <servo> | then again; doesn't the normal linux screensaver over draw on mythtv? |
| 11:23 | <Peit|Home> | hmm myth on one box is showing the channel ames in the epg, the other isn't |
| 11:24 | <Matt> | servo, just in case you're not watching, and forget to turn the tv off |
| 11:24 | <pmowry> | but is xscreensaver "TV aware"? dont want it to blank out in the middle of a game. |
| 11:24 | <Matt> | and the normal screensaver would happily draw overeverything |
| 11:25 | <Matt> | just noticed my DVD player has a screensaver when it's sat at the main screen |
| 11:25 | <servo> | good point |
| 11:26 | <servo> | hmm |
| 11:26 | <servo> | you could tailer a screensaver to turn on during low cpu usage? |
| 11:26 | <Matt> | I'm sure someone else has thought about it :&) |
| 11:26 | <servo> | or idle |
| 11:26 | <Matt> | but what if your box does other things :&) |
| 11:26 | <servo> | lol |
| 11:26 | <Matt> | I run mythtv on my desktop |
| 11:27 | <servo> | what is mythtv written in? |
| 11:27 | <Matt> | C++ |
| 11:27 | <servo> | awsome |
| 11:27 | <Matt> | it shouldn't be difficult to knock up a screensaver for it, I just don't have the time to work on much |
| 11:28 | <servo> | so you could create something in mythtv that would start a counter when option screen it loaded; so after a certain given time it would start an x-screensaver |
| 11:29 | <servo> | I'll have a break off of school in a few weeks; I'll see if I can do anything :-) |
| 11:31 | <pmowry> | Are there any packages for mythtv on cygwin or do you have to build from CVS? |
| 11:32 | <pmowry> | I'mbeing lazy this morning. |
| 11:32 | <Matt> | if I'm going to do anything mythtv related - it's going to be something to grab uk listings from bleb.org |
| 11:38 | <Peit|Home> | ah, Matt: have you successfully migrated to rt? i had to drop the channel db and restart it |
| 11:40 | <Matt> | I just tweaked the channel db by hand |
| 11:40 | <Matt> | all you have to update are the xmltvids |
| 11:41 | <Matt> | then I had to delete all the data in the program table before it'd update it properly |
| 11:41 | <Matt> | but it seems to be working now |
| 11:41 | <Peit|Home> | ah,.. i had a lot of channels missing.. |
| 11:41 | <Matt> | I only use the normal 5 :&) |
| 11:41 | <Peit|Home> | heh, NTL cable here, too many channels |
| 11:42 | <Peit|Home> | there's a site that does rss feeds of most of their content, i don't know if anyone has gotten in contact with them |
| 11:42 | <Peit|Home> | are you on the xml_tv lists? |
| 11:47 | <Matt> | no, but I should be really |
| 11:47 | <Matt> | I've got ntl cable |
| 11:47 | <Matt> | but the pc running mythtv isn't anywhere near the cable box |
| 11:47 | <Matt> | you got mythtv talking to the ntl box? |
| 11:50 | <servo> | Unknown video codec: strange error flushing buffer ... <= this is what mythbackend prints out some times... |
| 11:51 | <Peit|Home> | matt yeah, got one in the loft atm, which also does inet, and one downstairs (which is where my new hush box is going) |
| 11:52 | <Peit|Home> | www.redremote.co.uk is what i use |
| 11:52 | <Peit|Home> | works well |
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| 11:53 | <Matt> | servo, followed by a video error and the frontend locking up? |
| 11:53 | <ceed> | is mythtv-dev only for developing or can i post problems there as well (as long as i get no results from mythtv-users) ? |
| 11:54 | <Matt> | peit, nice - I'll have to look into that |
| 11:54 | <o_cee> | ceed: dev only |
| 11:55 | <servo> | Matt: nah frontend nor the backend don't lock up |
| 11:55 | <servo> | I also get: Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost! |
| 11:55 | <servo> | my problem is the video output is horrible. Almost as if it's not running in ntsc |
| 11:57 | <o_cee> | servo: and it's not the issue on mythtv.org "0.13 Release Followup" ? |
| 11:58 | <servo> | ill give it a try |
| 11:58 | <ceed> | o_cee: alright |
| 12:00 | <servo> | it looks like it's exaclty that problem... the green line on the bottom. Though it's during normal tv viewing; and strangly enough it USE to work just fine =\ lol. Strange ;-). I'll give it a shot since I fit all the criteria |
| 12:00 | <o_cee> | i think we told you to try that yesterday? |
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| 12:02 | <servo> | I might have missed it |
| 12:02 | <servo> | b/c I was in and out |
| 12:03 | <servo> | It says to run this: UPDATE channel SET tvformat = 'Default' WHERE tvformat = ''; | But should I run it as: UPDATE channel SET tvformat = 'Default' WHERE tvformat = 'ntsc'; ? |
| 12:03 | <o_cee> | no? |
| 12:03 | <o_cee> | it says what you should do. |
| 12:03 | <o_cee> | do that. |
| 12:03 | <servo> | ok |
| 12:05 | <Matt> | I'm gonna have to start doing something about transcoding programs I think, or at least tweaking defaults for recording |
| 12:11 | <servo> | 0_cee: yea that worked :-) thanks a bunch |
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| 12:13 | <servo> | now to work on my sound lag issue. Thor told me to mute line in and set it to capture. but I don't understand that. (I can do it) but why? By line in does that mean the channel that the tuner is on? Because I got 5 line in's ;-) so I need to know exaclty why we are muting line in (so I can mute the right one) |
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| 12:15 | <servo> | ahh but from reading the documentation the audio goes through an ADC... so I must mute the line that has the tunner on it |
| 12:16 | <servo> | makes sense or far |
| 12:18 | <o_cee> | yeah, the doc is a good thing to read. |
| 12:27 | <McQuaid> | yeah servo mute the line in that your tuner uses |
| 12:28 | <McQuaid> | otherwise your hearing the live audio as well, which will seem like lag |
| 12:28 | <McQuaid> | but you only want to hear the audio from the recorded stream |
| 12:29 | <McQuaid> | for ex on my system my mobo only had 1 onboard internel connector for the cdrom, so i've daisychained my cdrom and tuner to the mobo |
| 12:29 | <McQuaid> | so for me it's cdrom i mute and set as the active record device. |
| 12:30 | <McQuaid> | but it would be nice if mythtv could mute the selected line for recording and unmute it on exit, as now lauching other apps like tvtime i have to manually unmute it again |
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| 12:33 | <McQuaid> | is the deinterlacing for on the fly viewing? or is it actually applied to the recorded stream |
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| 12:39 | <sfr> | ceed: using v4lctl in your channel changer script suggests that your bt848 card actually has a tuner on it. then you don't need an external changelchanger script at all. mythtv controls v4l/v4l2 devices just fine. |
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| 12:42 | <ceed> | sfr: so i'll just drop externalcommand and try again? |
| 12:42 | <sfr> | ceed: sure |
| 12:45 | <ceed> | sfr: cardinput.startchan, is that using channel.freqid based on channel.channum ? |
| 12:47 | <sfr> | here, startchan is 3 while the freqid's are SE8 and so on |
| 12:49 | <ceed> | sfr: alright, it works... DOH |
| 12:49 | <ceed> | thanks a lot |
| 12:50 | <sfr> | ceed: np |
| 12:50 | <ceed> | posted it on the ml as well |
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| 12:57 | <cbreen> | anyone here build a home brew transmitter from lirc page? i'm not having much luck |
| 12:58 | <mdz> | anyone know the correct bttv tuner type for an ATI TV Wonder VE? |
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| 13:12 | <jDeGraw> | Where can I find documentation on skipping commercials and using mkmovie to change nuv file? The myth site doesnt seem to tell alot. |
| 13:13 | <billytwowilly> | look through the mailing list archives. |
| 13:13 | <billytwowilly> | I think I saw it mentioned on there a couple times. |
| 13:13 | <jDeGraw> | Ok, Thanks very much. Ill give it a try |
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| 13:35 | <sc00p> | mdz, tuner type is 2, I'm pretty sure |
| 13:35 | <sc00p> | and it's card 64 |
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| 13:37 | <rOOfus> | has anyone built a serial->low speed data connector here? |
| 13:38 | <rOOfus> | to have the computer change the dss receiver channel? |
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| 13:40 | <mdz> | sc00p: thanks |
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| 13:41 | <bar11> | Hi, wasn't there supposed to be some kind of HW support for the cle266 (epia) mpeg decoder in mythtv 0.13 or am I mistaken? |
| 13:44 | <Peit|Home> | there was in cvs at some point, but i don't know what happened to it |
| 13:45 | <bar11> | Ok, I see. |
| 13:46 | <bar11> | Using gentoo (with a system compiled for the HW), the epia was just able to play back full res. mpeg2 streams. Using redhat (compiled for i368 I reckon), it's no-where close to being able to play the streams.. sux big. |
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| 14:48 | <s0be> | does the wintv-d have hardware mpeg encoding/decoding? |
| 14:54 | <o_cee> | don't think that card is supported under linux |
| 14:55 | <o_cee> | Chutt: i think i've got pretty much everything ready for you now |
| 14:55 | <o_cee> | need to apply the latest changes to ui.xml, that's all |
| 14:55 | <o_cee> | and i need to continue work on mythmusic and mythweather.. :) |
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| 14:56 | <dmitry> | hey guys.. any idea why "livetv" gives me a blank screen and causes my load to go crazy really quickly? |
| 14:56 | <dmitry> | i've looked at the guides/manuals and i can't see anything obvious |
| 14:57 | <dmitry> | and im using an older wintv with bt878 |
| 14:57 | <o_cee> | you probably don't have your sound setup |
| 14:57 | <dmitry> | hmm. |
| 14:58 | <dmitry> | when livetv starts it tells me it can't open /dev/dsp, even though it's readable by mythtv user |
| 14:58 | <cbreen> | anyone know of an irc server channel for lirc? |
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| 14:58 | <o_cee> | dmitry: fix that and you'll be happy. |
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