| --- | Log | opened Sat Jan 24 00:00:32 2004 |
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| 00:25 | <fman> | hey all |
| 00:26 | <fman> | anyone know if myth build ok on PPC machines? |
| 00:29 | <DogBoy> | do the tv cards work there? |
| 00:29 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: ? |
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| 01:29 | <aceat64> | aww, MythWeb doesn't have it's own mini-web server? That would have been nice |
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| 01:32 | <dmitry> | aceat64: there are plenty of low weight web servers out there |
| 01:32 | <dmitry> | although i can't think of any right now :] |
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| 01:36 | <aceat64> | ya, but I was thinking of it from the laziness standpoint |
| 01:36 | <aceat64> | as in, all I want to do is download one program run it and get back to p0rn, err TV |
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| 01:37 | <michal> | hi.. does anyone here know if it's possible to get an ir keyboard to work as a linux keyboard via lirc? |
| 01:38 | <aceat64> | I haven't had much experience with lirc but I think it is possible |
| 01:39 | <michal> | i've been searching for info for a few days now.. i can't find anything helpful |
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| 01:41 | <michal> | short of trying to write my own lirc client which repeats keypresses to linux i don't know what i could do :( and that's a LOT beyond anything practical for the time being |
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| 01:42 | <aceat64> | is there an lirc chat room? if so they could probably help you the best |
| 01:43 | <michal> | no.. there's little to no way to get any info regarding lirc.. even the mailing list can have you waiting for months for a useless answer :/ |
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| 01:43 | <Truin> | hola |
| 01:43 | <Truin> | well, I've played with nuvexport. Found video encoding settings that I like for DivX. Now, if only I could get the audio to sync with the video. :( |
| 01:45 | <michal> | i think i had best try to return the keyboard :/ it's unlikely i;ll ever have the time to write drivers for it :( |
| 01:45 | <Truin> | at first, I thought it was the audio sampling rate.. ya know, 32kHz vs 48kHz. So, in the frontend settings, I sat the Default recording profile to use 48000. Consequently, it won't let me set it back to 32000 now, and I still can't get video and audio in sync. |
| 01:45 | <Truin> | Thoughts? |
| 01:47 | <Truin> | well, I'll keep fiddling with it. I'll let you all know if I find anything... |
| 01:49 | <Truin> | I *do* like how nuvexport reads the mythconverg db to get recorded program info... that's pretty handy! |
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| 02:16 | <hadees> | did everyone see the post on slashdot.org about pvr |
| 02:16 | <hadees> | s |
| 02:22 | <DJ_Rican> | no... what post? |
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| 03:05 | <Octane> | anyone know the xine cmd line to play vcd? |
| 03:05 | <Octane> | xine vcd://1 aint workin for me |
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| 03:42 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 03:42 | <Octane> | hello there\ |
| 03:43 | <Chutt> | all in favor of removing one 'brad allen' from the mailing list? |
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| 03:43 | <Chutt> | *aye* |
| 03:43 | <Chutt> | all opposed? |
| 03:43 | <Chutt> | <crickets> |
| 03:43 | <Octane> | me!!! |
| 03:43 | <Chutt> | and the motion passes unanimously |
| 03:43 | <Octane> | i dont see any posts by him |
| 03:43 | <Chutt> | -dev |
| 03:43 | <Chutt> | just look for any posts over 20 pages long |
| 03:44 | <Octane> | LOL what the hell!! |
| 03:44 | <Octane> | what is he babbaling about |
| 03:44 | <Chutt> | The myth list people don't follow traditional list post protocols |
| 03:44 | <Chutt> | (e.g., being sure to cc all those who are concerned), and constantly |
| 03:44 | <Chutt> | whine about standard practice in the most rude ways. I would tread |
| 03:44 | <Chutt> | very, very, very carefully if I were you. |
| 03:45 | <Octane> | make sur eyou pay attention to the article he posted from 1997!! |
| 03:46 | <Octane> | wow he wrote a whole book |
| 03:49 | <Octane> | hes setting an example of how one should email by ccing himself in his replies |
| 03:53 | <Octane> | Chutt do you even use myth nowadays |
| 03:53 | <Chutt> | err |
| 03:53 | <Chutt> | all the time? |
| 03:58 | <Octane> | what one tv show made you wan tto start a pvr project, lol |
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| 03:58 | <Chutt> | wasn't a tv show |
| 03:58 | <Chutt> | i just wanted something to mess around with |
| 03:59 | <Octane> | you knwo what made me find mythtv? |
| 03:59 | <Octane> | i posted on some forum a thread like... |
| 03:59 | <Octane> | "what should i do with this celeron 333?" |
| 03:59 | <Octane> | and someone was like, "mythtv!" |
| 04:15 | <Octane> | but who cares! |
| 04:19 | <FryGuy> | heh nice octane :) |
| 04:20 | <josephk> | what the hell...this via board is hella stable |
| 04:20 | <FryGuy> | my dad wants one, and i give him my old 1.333ghz athlon as a hand-me-down so he might use his old p3-450 as a pvr |
| 04:21 | <FryGuy> | although he bought the wrong kind of ram, so he's going to get another motherboard+cpu at frys and i guess the tbird is going to my mom then |
| 04:21 | <josephk> | I'm having better luck with my apollo via board, cheapy msi micro-atx than my bx2 |
| 04:23 | <FryGuy> | now if I could get gentoo to boot.. i'm reinstalling linux on my myth box because i needed a newer version of alsa and suse 8.2 was upsetting me |
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| 04:25 | <ShockValue> | hi all.. i finally got ivtv to show me some TV pictures (pvr250), but im having some trouble getting it to start automatically at boot (GENTOO) |
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| 04:26 | <ShockValue> | when I "modprobe ivtv" it says module not found.. but if i insmod it with the full path it works ok.. any clue? |
| 04:26 | <tharvey> | anyone know a good way to check a file to make sure its executable by current process? |
| 04:26 | <knight-> | ShockValue, have you run depmod -a? |
| 04:27 | <ShockValue> | i dont think so.. im not sure what that does |
| 04:27 | <ShockValue> | let me rephrase.. No, what does depmod -a do? :) |
| 04:27 | <knight-> | depmod - handle dependency descriptions for loadable kernel modules |
| 04:27 | <Chutt> | tharvey, http://doc.trolltech.com/3.1/qfileinfo.html |
| 04:28 | <knight-> | The normal use of depmod is to include the line |
| 04:28 | <knight-> | /sbin/depmod -a |
| 04:28 | <knight-> | somewhere in the rc-files in /etc/rc.d, so that the correct module |
| 04:28 | <knight-> | dependencies will be available immediately after booting the system. |
| 04:28 | <Chutt> | tharvey, i assume that's for your imdb perl script? |
| 04:28 | <knight-> | Note that the option -a is now optional. |
| 04:28 | <ShockValue> | hrm.. well i ran it to see.. no output at all |
| 04:28 | <knight-> | thats fine |
| 04:28 | <knight-> | now rmmod ivtv, then modprobe. |
| 04:29 | <knight-> | If you have any problems still, it might be better to go to #ivtv-dev or #gentoo |
| 04:29 | <ShockValue> | hey nice! that seems to have worked |
| 04:29 | <knight-> | Congradulations. |
| 04:29 | <tharvey> | Chutt, thanks! thats the one |
| 04:29 | <ShockValue> | they were busiing fighting over why girls didnt like linux in #gentoo. :D |
| 04:29 | <tharvey> | Chutt, yes I'm adding a check to videomanager to notify user if script doesn't exist |
| 04:29 | <Chutt> | great |
| 04:30 | <knight-> | tharvey++ |
| 04:30 | <knight-> | validation routines are great |
| 04:30 | <Chutt> | i didn't check, but you're not using any non-standard perl modules, right? |
| 04:30 | <knight-> | He's using libwww isnt he? |
| 04:30 | <tharvey> | yes... I haven't touched perl in about 10 years, so I'm really REALLY rusty |
| 04:30 | <tharvey> | I'm using LWP::Simple, HTML::Entities |
| 04:31 | <knight-> | yep LWP is part of libwww |
| 04:31 | <ShockValue> | i think once i get myth setup like i want (liek 20 years from now at this rate ;) i;m going to se about coding an album-cover display for mythmusic. |
| 04:32 | <tharvey> | ShockValue, I'm planning on adding that... next todo |
| 04:32 | <Chutt> | someone just submitted one. |
| 04:32 | <ShockValue> | oh :) good, then i can just go back to drinking. |
| 04:32 | <Chutt> | and it's in cvs |
| 04:32 | <tharvey> | What was submitted was for visualizations |
| 04:32 | <Chutt> | unless you mean a selection method |
| 04:32 | <ShockValue> | yeah, thats good for me.. just visualization is nice |
| 04:32 | <tharvey> | ya... I want to see album cover and details about current selection |
| 04:33 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 04:33 | <Chutt> | anyway, i'm off to bed |
| 04:33 | <tharvey> | also want to add current playlist stats, such as time etc |
| 04:33 | <knight-> | Chutt, anyone submitted general developer docs? |
| 04:33 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 04:33 | <tharvey> | I could really use some of those myself :) |
| 04:33 | <knight-> | i.e. Coding Standards & Style, Qt 3.1, etc |
| 04:34 | <knight-> | If I have time tomorrow, I might begin to scavage the mailing lists for stuff and cram into a document |
| 04:34 | <ShockValue> | any of you use a pvr250 with standard cable tv coax input? |
| 04:34 | <knight-> | ShockValue, many |
| 04:34 | <Chutt> | that'd be cool. |
| 04:34 | <knight-> | yeah |
| 04:35 | <tharvey> | ShockValue, yes I use 250 and 350 |
| 04:35 | <knight-> | I should have a patch for the theme installer ready soon |
| 04:35 | <ShockValue> | on setup option #3, what input should i choose? i understand that adding the wrong ones can cause display issues. |
| 04:35 | <ShockValue> | (like tuner -> video0, composite -> ?) etc? |
| 04:35 | <tharvey> | ShockValue, that sets the source input... if your using cable, set it to tuner |
| 04:35 | <knight-> | Chutt, where would you like to see the theme installer? Settings? |
| 04:36 | <ShockValue> | sorry for newb questions.. tonight is the first time ive gotten video out of the cat /dev/video0 command after fighting with it for 2 weeks. |
| 04:37 | <tharvey> | ShockValue, it can be a painfull experience... I know :) |
| 04:37 | <ShockValue> | yesterday i almost took the card back to get an xbox.. but i decided to give it one more shot :D |
| 04:38 | <knight-> | ShockValue, I'm sure you already know, but the docs and the mailing lists are a resource of valuable information for most problems. |
| 04:38 | <FryGuy> | yes, they are |
| 04:38 | <ShockValue> | yeah, i surf gossamerthreads at work and i have a 100 page printout on my lap.. it was just ivtv was being stubborn. |
| 04:39 | <FryGuy> | gentoo forums are great too |
| 04:39 | <tharvey> | ShockValue, are you using Jarod's guide? Other than that, docs are limitted... the mailing list has too much data - difficult to scan |
| 04:39 | * | ShockValue flips to the 3rd section of his Myth Handbook. |
| 04:39 | <ShockValue> | yep, jarods... modified for kernel 2.6 :) |
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| 04:40 | <tharvey> | I would really like to see someone setup a Wiki for MythTV |
| 04:41 | <ShockValue> | i think im good now though, i got ivtv working (i think>) that was the only thing that was holding me up.. ive been using Myth for DVD and Music playback for a couple months now |
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| 05:22 | <rOOfus> | mornin |
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| 05:23 | <Morph> | greetings. |
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| 05:30 | <orangebits> | Has anyone got any experience with using tv_grab_uk_rt to get non-south-east channel listings? |
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| 06:53 | <ceed> | hey |
| 06:54 | <Rule> | hi |
| 06:54 | <ceed> | are there any great differences between old and new models of a Hauppauge WinTV PVR 250 ? |
| 06:55 | <Rule> | Apparantly the rev1 had the decoder, like the 350, but lacks the output port :P |
| 06:55 | <Rule> | iirc |
| 06:57 | <ceed> | humm what do i need an output port for? |
| 06:57 | <Rule> | you mean like the pvr350 ? for hardware decoding |
| 06:58 | <Rule> | I use it to output to the tv. awesome quality and 0% cpu |
| 06:58 | <Rule> | helps on my epia :) |
| 07:01 | <Rule> | If I'd have to build it again, I'd still get a pvr250 and do decoding through the via mainboard mpeg2 decoder |
| 07:08 | <ceed> | why would you prefer the software decoding? |
| 07:09 | <ceed> | because i'm just trying to evaluate wether i get a 250 or 350 on ebay :) |
| 07:09 | <Peit|Home> | rule how's your epia handling mpeg4 decoding? |
| 07:09 | <ceed> | there is an old 250 sellling in a few hours, some kind of version with FM and Teletext |
| 07:10 | <Peit|Home> | they all do fm and teletext don't they? |
| 07:10 | <ceed> | current 250 doesn't |
| 07:10 | <Peit|Home> | then again... teletext yes, radio dunno, mine doesn't |
| 07:10 | <Peit|Home> | sure its a 250, not a straight pvr? |
| 07:11 | <Rule> | Peit|Home, it doesn't |
| 07:11 | <Rule> | that is cpu based |
| 07:11 | <Rule> | but it can manage |
| 07:11 | <ceed> | maybe a straight PVR then |
| 07:12 | <ceed> | should i get a recent 250 then or can i go with this old one? |
| 07:12 | <Rule> | ceed, in answer to your question regarding sw-decoding : the epia has an mpeg2 slice decoder onboard |
| 07:12 | <Rule> | the old one will work fine |
| 07:12 | <Rule> | in fact the old one might have more features, as you said |
| 07:13 | <ceed> | is the encoder good enough? |
| 07:13 | <Rule> | it's the same as on the 350 and more recent 250s basically |
| 07:13 | <Rule> | make sure it's a pvr250 tho, there are some other products out there |
| 07:14 | * | Rule might buy a Yuan card for the next pvr project |
| 07:16 | <ceed> | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2781403103&category=38863&rd=1 |
| 07:16 | <ceed> | i'd have no clue how to find out |
| 07:16 | <ceed> | hehe |
| 07:16 | <Rule> | you could compare the picture :) |
| 07:17 | <ceed> | i head the xbox makes a good frontend to mythtv? |
| 07:17 | <Rule> | yeah |
| 07:17 | <Rule> | very tempting |
| 07:17 | <Rule> | but frontend only |
| 07:18 | <Peit|Home> | rule so you only playback mpeg2 captures on your epia board? |
| 07:18 | <Rule> | and I'm not sure about the ones you'd buy in the store now... maybe they have the Dashboard bug patched |
| 07:18 | <Peit|Home> | pitty myth can't show what the format of the file in the browser is yet |
| 07:19 | <Rule> | Peit|Home, currently I use the pvr350, but I can play anything on the epia really.. |
| 07:19 | <Peit|Home> | Rule: i nkkow it can do hardware accel of mpeg2, but i don't know how well it would cope throwing mpeg4 out of the pvr-350, or do you select between the two video outputs |
| 07:24 | <ceed> | i got an old one with does the frontend decode the mpeg2 stream, or does the server do it? |
| 07:24 | <ceed> | erm, does the frontend decode the mpeg2 stream, or does the server do it? |
| 07:30 | <Rule> | Peit|Home, it won't be able to play it through the pvr350 out, I switch outputs |
| 07:31 | <Rule> | but if I had to do it again, I'd save money and just use the epia for all output |
| 07:33 | <Rule> | and get the lower-profile Yuan card probably |
| 07:33 | <Rule> | ah hindsight... |
| 07:35 | <Rule> | does anyone here have a mythtv auto-archive method set up ? (transcode to xvid or so) ? |
| 07:38 | <ceed> | sorry to be repetitive, but does the frontend (i.e. the xbox) handle the decoding, or the server? |
| 07:39 | <ceed> | and if the devoding is done on the server side, does that go to the xbox over ethernet or do i have to add another a/v-cable? |
| 07:39 | <ceed> | actually that wouldn't make sense at all hehe |
| 07:39 | <Rule> | frontend decodes :) |
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| 07:43 | <Peit|Home> | otherwise you're transferring full screen video data over ethernet,... |
| 07:43 | <Peit|Home> | Rule: i've heard the epia mepg2 out isn't anywhere near as nice as the 350... have you compared them? |
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| 07:52 | <Snappi> | can anyone dcc send my mythmusic/metadata.sql |
| 07:53 | <Snappi> | I am emerging mythmusic in gentoo but it doesn't creat this file |
| 07:53 | <Snappi> | anyone know why? |
| 07:54 | <Snappi> | and I can watch tv in tvtime but not in mythtv, I have a MT2050 chipset |
| 07:54 | <Snappi> | if anyone are fammiliar with this problems pls reply |
| 07:54 | <sfr> | what version of mythtv |
| 07:54 | <Snappi> | .13 |
| 07:55 | <Snappi> | I want this mythmusic/metadata.sql because it says "database is out of whack" |
| 07:56 | <sfr> | iirc starting with 0.13 and up the database tables are created automatically. just create the db and the db user and you are set. |
| 07:56 | <Snappi> | I have done that |
| 07:56 | <Snappi> | what is the name of the database? |
| 07:57 | <Snappi> | I have mythconverg |
| 07:57 | <Snappi> | and I am not good @ mysql |
| 07:57 | <sfr> | that's correct |
| 07:57 | <ceed> | what is preferable? pvr350 hardware mpeg output or xbox software decoding? |
| 07:57 | <ceed> | i mean there's nothing else running on the xbox obviously, celeron 733 with 64 megs of ram |
| 07:57 | <Snappi> | can xbox take tv-in? |
| 07:57 | <ceed> | nope |
| 07:58 | <Snappi> | sfr, but it's now working |
| 07:58 | <Snappi> | *not working |
| 07:58 | <Snappi> | I still get database is out of whack |
| 07:58 | <Rule> | ceed, I don't know what sort of image quality it woudl give you |
| 07:58 | <Snappi> | I have googled but havn't found a solution |
| 08:00 | <sfr> | Snappi: on the mysql host, type 'mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg' |
| 08:00 | <Snappi> | k |
| 08:00 | <Snappi> | sec |
| 08:00 | <Snappi> | I thought I did that but with root. this could be the problem |
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| 08:05 | <sfr> | Snappi: you see the mysql> prompt? |
| 08:05 | <Snappi> | yes |
| 08:05 | <Snappi> | I use root as user insteed (know its dumb) |
| 08:05 | <Snappi> | I don't have the user mythtv |
| 08:06 | <Snappi> | what do I do in the mysql promt? |
| 08:06 | <sfr> | Snappi: so create it as described in the docs |
| 08:06 | <Snappi> | *prompt |
| 08:06 | <sfr> | Snappi: what mysql user did you define in mysql.txt for mythtv to use then? |
| 08:06 | <Snappi> | mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql right? |
| 08:07 | <Snappi> | I will check |
| 08:08 | <Snappi> | opps |
| 08:08 | <Snappi> | changed that now :) |
| 08:08 | <Snappi> | the error is gone |
| 08:09 | <sfr> | Snappi: but don't use the mysql root user with mythtv ;) |
| 08:09 | <Snappi> | I will change that when everything works |
| 08:09 | <Snappi> | were do I define the path to search for music in? |
| 08:10 | <sfr> | in the frontend settings for myhtmusic |
| 08:10 | <Snappi> | k |
| 08:10 | <Snappi> | thx a lot sfr I really love this app |
| 08:11 | <sfr> | k |
| 08:12 | <Snappi> | u know why I can only see TV in tvtime and not in mythtv? |
| 08:12 | <Snappi> | and when I rip music it creats flac and not mp3. can I change that some how? |
| 08:13 | <sfr> | Snappi: change the settings for myhtmusic |
| 08:13 | <Snappi> | I have to lame(mp3) |
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| 08:13 | <Snappi> | but it creats filename.flac |
| 08:14 | <sfr> | read the help text about the default quality setting. Perfect will always encode as flac |
| 08:14 | <Snappi> | k |
| 08:14 | <Snappi> | thx |
| 08:15 | <Snappi> | and when I try to change the languages it doesn't change. I change from english to swedish but it doesn't change |
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| 08:29 | <thor_> | ah |
| 08:34 | <Snappi> | are there any plans on making a shoutcast plugin? |
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| 09:07 | <Snappi> | I have choosed language=swedish and mysql show this but mythfronted havn't changed languages? |
| 09:07 | <Snappi> | anyone had this problem? |
| 09:07 | <thor_> | Myth --> setup --> |
| 09:08 | <Snappi> | I have done that |
| 09:08 | <Snappi> | and mysql looks okey |
| 09:09 | <thor_> | you did Myth-->setup->Next->Next->Next->Language->Swedish and then went to the end and did Finish > |
| 09:09 | <thor_> | ? |
| 09:09 | <Snappi> | yes |
| 09:09 | <thor_> | well, everything is in Swedish here now |
| 09:09 | <Snappi> | than it refreshed but didn't change languages |
| 09:09 | <Snappi> | k |
| 09:10 | <thor_> | which is a bit of a problem, since I don't speak Swedish |
| 09:10 | <thor_> | ah, that's better |
| 09:10 | <Snappi> | can u see if u can change to swedish? |
| 09:10 | <thor_> | just did |
| 09:10 | <Snappi> | ouh |
| 09:11 | <thor_> | and back again |
| 09:11 | <thor_> | and messages on the console |
| 09:11 | <thor_> | ? |
| 09:11 | <Snappi> | I will see |
| 09:12 | <Snappi> | no messeges |
| 09:13 | <thor_> | you are 100% sure you pushed the _Finish_ button ? |
| 09:13 | <Snappi> | yes |
| 09:14 | <Snappi> | and mysql table shows swedish |
| 09:14 | <thor_> | hmmm |
| 09:14 | <thor_> | version? |
| 09:14 | <Snappi> | .13 |
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| 09:16 | <Snappi> | thor_, are u running gentoo? |
| 09:16 | <Snappi> | or another dist? |
| 09:18 | <thor_> | mostly slackware |
| 09:18 | <pahli_bar> | argh... |
| 09:18 | <thor_> | I dunno, never really played with the language stuff, but it works fine here ... |
| 09:20 | <pahli_bar> | another pvr article on slashdot.... this thing is really catching on |
| 09:20 | <thor_> | correction, another "clueless" pvr article on slashdot |
| 09:21 | <pahli_bar> | heh. he didn't get past the kernel boot stage |
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| 09:37 | <Peit|Home> | the author of mythweb doesn't come on here does he? |
| 09:45 | <o_cee> | thor_: did you see me msg? |
| 09:45 | <o_cee> | my |
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| 09:48 | <thor_> | ah .. yes ... |
| 09:48 | <thor_> | heh |
| 09:48 | <thor_> | permssions on the dirs? |
| 10:04 | <o_cee> | hello |
| 10:04 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 10:04 | <o_cee> | very odd since it worked via x-win |
| 10:04 | <o_cee> | i'll try xwin again |
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| 10:05 | <o_cee> | i could send the stuff to you soonish if you've got time? |
| 10:06 | <thor_> | send it to me ... |
| 10:06 | <o_cee> | gimme a minute.. |
| 10:07 | <o_cee> | doing way to much stuff at the same time := |
| 10:07 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 10:07 | <thor_> | yup |
| 10:07 | <thor_> | :-) |
| 10:07 | <o_cee> | now it doesn't work in xwin either.. i'll give it to you and see if you can find the error.. probably just something stupid |
| 10:07 | <thor_> | k |
| 10:08 | <o_cee> | Error loading image file: /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/default/simple_button_on.png |
| 10:08 | <o_cee> | xmparse.o: I can't find a file called music/simple_button_on.png |
| 10:08 | <thor_> | yeah, it's the default/ versus music/ thing |
| 10:10 | <o_cee> | or do you want it via email? |
| 10:10 | <thor_> | firewall, mail is better, mythtv@lamedomainname.com |
| 10:11 | <o_cee> | on its way.. |
| 10:11 | <o_cee> | it'll probably get stuck if you've got a spamtrap :) |
| 10:12 | <thor_> | nothing too defensive ... |
| 10:12 | <o_cee> | also the dir should be G.A.N.T. instead of G.A.N.T windows doesn't like dirnames with an ending . ?? very odd |
| 10:12 | <thor_> | windows is trying to help you |
| 10:13 | <o_cee> | blargh |
| 10:13 | <o_cee> | all of this works if i don't put the fies in music/, if i didn't make that clear |
| 10:14 | <thor_> | yup |
| 10:14 | <o_cee> | (and change the .xml of course) :) |
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| 10:16 | <servo> | lol I swear mythtv is gonna be the death of me! |
| 10:17 | <servo> | The first day I install it; 90% of it works. I have sound, and video, in NTSC... The next day NTSC began looking as pal (all messy) though NTSC was enables... and sound was fine... Today I only get a black screen and no audio... AHH! |
| 10:18 | <o_cee> | getting 90% to work the first day is probably better than most people ;) |
| 10:18 | <servo> | :-) lol |
| 10:19 | <servo> | ohh! The damn share directory doesn't have write access *sigh* that's prolly what caused the crash |
| 10:19 | <o_cee> | heh |
| 10:19 | <servo> | I have a question: Should I run mythbackend as root or as a normal user? |
| 10:19 | <o_cee> | thor_: got it yet? |
| 10:19 | <o_cee> | servo: normal user |
| 10:19 | <servo> | ok |
| 10:19 | <thor_> | got |
| 10:19 | <thor_> | fiddling |
| 10:19 | <thor_> | ... |
| 10:19 | <o_cee> | okay :) |
| 10:23 | <o_cee> | did you look at the albumviz stuff yet? |
| 10:23 | <servo> | ok =-) well now I get picture. The picture is not at all viewable. As I said before it looks like it's not setting the video source to NTSC |
| 10:24 | <o_cee> | what kind of tvcard? |
| 10:25 | <servo> | wintv theater |
| 10:25 | <servo> | 878 |
| 10:25 | <servo> | standard v4l card |
| 10:25 | <o_cee> | allright.. you able to do normal tests, like cat /dev/video0 or whatever you do with those cards? |
| 10:26 | <servo> | lemme try |
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| 10:26 | <servo> | cat /dev/video doesn't return anything |
| 10:28 | <pahli_bar> | cat /dev/video doesn't work for v4l/bttv cards |
| 10:28 | <pahli_bar> | try tvtime |
| 10:28 | <servo> | tvtime works just fine |
| 10:28 | <o_cee> | ah, okay :) |
| 10:29 | <servo> | mythtv does return the correct channels, and video but the picture doesn't look like it's in NTSC |
| 10:29 | <o_cee> | look at the channels table |
| 10:29 | <servo> | so it does see the card just find |
| 10:29 | <o_cee> | there's a column for pal/ntsc |
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| 10:31 | <servo> | how would I view the table? |
| 10:31 | <o_cee> | mysql -p -umythtv |
| 10:31 | <o_cee> | password mythtv |
| 10:31 | <o_cee> | use mythconverg; |
| 10:31 | <o_cee> | uhm.. |
| 10:31 | <o_cee> | view channels; ? is that right? |
| 10:31 | <o_cee> | nah |
| 10:31 | <crabchips> | how well would a mini-itx system work for frontend? |
| 10:31 | <o_cee> | select * from channels; or something |
| 10:31 | <Matt> | crabchips, I'm guessing really well |
| 10:32 | <pahli_bar> | crabchips: very well... |
| 10:32 | <pahli_bar> | crabchips: lots of people use asus pundits as both frontend/backends |
| 10:32 | <Matt> | mysql> select chanid,callsign,tvformat from channel; |
| 10:32 | <o_cee> | but iwht pvr2/350's right? |
| 10:32 | <o_cee> | Matt: thanks :) |
| 10:32 | <crabchips> | asus pundits? |
| 10:32 | <o_cee> | haven't done sql stuff in a long time |
| 10:33 | <pahli_bar> | crabchips: just an example. its a mini-itx system |
| 10:33 | <Matt> | crabchips, I'm planning on building a mythtv system around a mini-itx board after I move |
| 10:34 | <Matt> | I'm holding out till then because it's going to cost enough to move as it is :&) |
| 10:34 | <servo> | Ok sry; phone |
| 10:34 | <thor_> | o_cee, this is going to take a second, can't get myth to recognize the theme |
| 10:35 | <o_cee> | thor_: okay |
| 10:35 | <o_cee> | odd |
| 10:35 | <o_cee> | might have missed a file or soemthing.. |
| 10:35 | <servo> | all I get is: Reading table information for completion of table and column names | You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A | Database changed |
| 10:35 | <thor_> | yeah, just downloaded two others, they're fine, I'm trying to figure out why it's not happy |
| 10:36 | <o_cee> | heh, let me know what you need ;) |
| 10:37 | <o_cee> | the preview image is untested |
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| 10:42 | <servo> | XMLTV is taken it's time... grr |
| 10:44 | <crabchips> | guys, is 802.11g sufficient for streaming playback? |
| 10:44 | <servo> | tv quality? |
| 10:44 | <crabchips> | not hdtv |
| 10:44 | <servo> | yuck that would be a strecht |
| 10:45 | <pahli_bar> | crabchips: check the user archives, you will find some answers there! |
| 10:45 | <servo> | how fast is g? 54mbits? or something |
| 10:45 | <crabchips> | something like that |
| 10:48 | <o_cee> | thor_: ...? |
| 10:49 | <thor_> | fooled into loading the theme ... rebuilding mythmusic (mythtv was up to cvs) |
| 10:49 | <thor_> | dev box |
| 10:49 | <thor_> | :-) |
| 10:49 | <o_cee> | allright :) |
| 10:49 | <pahli_bar> | o_cee: is gant going to be the default for 0.14? |
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| 10:50 | <o_cee> | dunno about default, but it'll go into cvs at least, so it'll be an alternative theme |
| 10:55 | <o_cee> | thor_: you really need to get a faster dev box :) |
| 10:55 | <thor_> | heh |
| 10:56 | <thor_> | mail your Opterons to ... |
| 10:56 | <o_cee> | aight |
| 10:56 | <thor_> | I think I know what the problem is |
| 10:56 | <thor_> | just checking the image caching code |
| 10:57 | <o_cee> | okay |
| 10:59 | <Snow-Man> | Hey |
| 10:59 | <Snow-Man> | How do you get the myhthfrontend to talk to a backend on a different server? |
| 11:01 | <Peit|Home> | doesn't the master backend handle all the re-directs? |
| 11:01 | <Snow-Man> | mdz: I was going to ask you how to get mythfrontend to talk to a backend server on a different host, since the debconf stuff doesn't appear to do anything. |
| 11:01 | <Snow-Man> | Peit|Home: Got me.. How would that work? |
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| 11:02 | <Peit|Home> | dunno how it does, i could guess, but as i'm waiting until tonight to setup my second backend.. |
| 11:03 | <o_cee> | Snow-Man: i think you need to change a .txt somewhere |
| 11:04 | <o_cee> | or in the setup |
| 11:04 | <drd-> | .... |
| 11:04 | <o_cee> | never done it |
| 11:04 | <drd-> | /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| 11:04 | <Snow-Man> | It looks like the frontend can talk to the backend database, at least. |
| 11:05 | <drd-> | cant believe nobody reads docs heh |
| 11:05 | <Snow-Man> | MasterServerIP is set to 127.0.0.1... |
| 11:05 | <Snow-Man> | drd-: Oh, really? Just what should I put in there? |
| 11:06 | <drd-> | ip address of the mysql server running with backend myth server |
| 11:06 | <drd-> | and database name, username, and pw |
| 11:06 | <Snow-Man> | Ah, right, so, not at all what I'm referring to, then. |
| 11:06 | <Snow-Man> | And, in fact, I already said that the frontend can talk to the database, which means that's all correct already. |
| 11:06 | <drd-> | <Snow-Man> mdz: I was going to ask you how to get mythfrontend to talk to a backend server on a different host, since the debconf stuff doesn't appear to do anything. |
| 11:07 | <drd-> | thats whut it sounds like to me |
| 11:07 | <Snow-Man> | drd-: The debconf stuff doesn't do anything and obviously there's more that has to be done than changing the couple values in mysql.txt. |
| 11:07 | <drd-> | no |
| 11:08 | <drd-> | u mean u want to make the mythbackend run on different computer than mysqld ? |
| 11:08 | <Snow-Man> | No. |
| 11:09 | <drd-> | in mythsetup did u put in ip address of network card interface? |
| 11:09 | <Snow-Man> | 2004-01-24 11:07:51 Connecting to backend server: 10.10.1.100:6543 (try 1 of 1) |
| 11:09 | <Snow-Man> | Connection timed out. |
| 11:09 | <Snow-Man> | ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/include/qt3/qvaluelist.h (372) |
| 11:09 | <Snow-Man> | Could not connect to server |
| 11:09 | <Snow-Man> | Could not connect to server |
| 11:09 | <Snow-Man> | Getting closer at least. |
| 11:11 | <thor_> | o_cee, themecache would have to be making more directories and then deleting theme ... it's a bit complicated ... doable, but not a 5 minute fix |
| 11:11 | <Snow-Man> | There we go. Odd that I had to modify the BackendServerIP for the server host, but, whatever. |
| 11:12 | <Snow-Man> | Now I need to figure find the keybindings info again. :) |
| 11:13 | <drd-> | at least it doesnt go off and be a whore and grab every ip it can find :p |
| 11:13 | <o_cee> | thor_: hmm, but why does type/ and some music/ stuff work? |
| 11:14 | <thor_> | some stuff does not use image cache |
| 11:14 | <o_cee> | oh. |
| 11:14 | <thor_> | (though it should) |
| 11:14 | <o_cee> | so it's not really anything wrong with my theme.. :) |
| 11:14 | <thor_> | no |
| 11:14 | <o_cee> | good to know |
| 11:14 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 11:15 | <thor_> | I would just stick to a flat directory ... if the objective is to be up to speed for 0.14 |
| 11:15 | <thor_> | longer term, need to modify the caching stuff |
| 11:16 | <Snow-Man> | 2004-01-24 11:15:48 prebuffering pause |
| 11:17 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, what's with that? |
| 11:17 | <o_cee> | okay. |
| 11:17 | <o_cee> | i'll ask isaac about it |
| 11:17 | <o_cee> | i'm way to organized to put all images in one folder ;) |
| 11:17 | <Snow-Man> | Should I increase the buffering size or something? |
| 11:17 | <Snow-Man> | Heh, if there's a way to? |
| 11:18 | <crabchips> | i'm seeing conflicting information.. does the 250 have hardware encoding? or just the 350? |
| 11:19 | <o_cee> | crabchips: the 350 has tvout, the 250 doesn't |
| 11:19 | <crabchips> | yes but does the 250 have hardware or software mpeg encoding |
| 11:19 | <o_cee> | hardware |
| 11:20 | <thor_> | o_cee, Chutt could probably change it fast and correctly, I don't want to mess with it as it's not my code and it would take me a while to get it right |
| 11:20 | <o_cee> | allright |
| 11:20 | * | o_cee is back (gone 16:39:53) |
| 11:20 | <Zeran> | hey guys |
| 11:20 | <Zeran> | you know the menu/dialog which appears if you are watching live TV and a recording is about to start? |
| 11:21 | <o_cee> | what about ut |
| 11:21 | <o_cee> | it |
| 11:21 | <Zeran> | if you don't answer in time.. |
| 11:21 | <Zeran> | what is meant to happen? |
| 11:21 | <pahli_bar> | i love half-baked questions |
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| 11:22 | <Zeran> | sorry, I was distracted :) |
| 11:22 | <pahli_bar> | default selected action will happen. which is it will start recording |
| 11:22 | <Zeran> | the reason I ask is that it happened earlier, and the machine froze up |
| 11:22 | <Zeran> | which seemed odd |
| 11:22 | <o_cee> | driver issue |
| 11:22 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 11:22 | <servo> | is there like a text file output of the ./setup program I can edit? |
| 11:22 | <Zeran> | I thought that was likely too |
| 11:22 | <Zeran> | but its rock solid everywhere else |
| 11:22 | <o_cee> | servo: mysql |
| 11:22 | <Zeran> | (finally) |
| 11:22 | <Snow-Man> | Grrr. |
| 11:23 | <pahli_bar> | machine froze up: as in x11 froze up. linux froze up. myth froze up. |
| 11:23 | <servo> | ok so it's in the database? |
| 11:23 | <o_cee> | yes |
| 11:23 | <Zeran> | recordings all perfect, playback all perfect.. just not when that message appears |
| 11:23 | <Zeran> | the machine became inaccessible from the network.. the TV displayed the last frame of live TV with the menu still overlayed |
| 11:24 | <pahli_bar> | kernel driver issues.. |
| 11:24 | <servo> | the database is called mythconverg right? |
| 11:24 | <Zeran> | I believe so servo |
| 11:24 | <sfr> | Snow-Man: with latest cvs i also see the prebuffering pauses. they usually start after a few channel changes, and also the cpu load is (much) higher than with live-tv just started. |
| 11:25 | <Snow-Man> | sfr: This is when trying to watch a recording. |
| 11:25 | <Zeran> | I'm sure the problem eventually became critical at the driver level, but I suspect something higher level lead to it |
| 11:25 | <pahli_bar> | its still a driver issue |
| 11:25 | <Zeran> | I dont think the driver is responsible |
| 11:25 | <Zeran> | more likely it was asked to do something that it isnt normally asked to |
| 11:26 | <Snow-Man> | I see it when watching live tv too though. |
| 11:26 | <Snow-Man> | I think anyway. |
| 11:26 | <Zeran> | I assume it tried to tear down the live TV Mode, but failed in the process of doing that |
| 11:26 | <pahli_bar> | its like saying I tried to download this huge file and machine froze up. |
| 11:26 | <Zeran> | which would suggest that the process by which live TV is exited from that menu is different to the process by which live TV is exited when you do a normal exit |
| 11:27 | <pahli_bar> | Zeran: doesn't matter. if the driver is unstable, the problem will crop up eventually |
| 11:28 | <Zeran> | yes, but what I'm saying is that ONLY that particular event causes the problem |
| 11:28 | <racer32> | Pahli: i saw your patch for mythnews, is there also hope for Gallery? |
| 11:28 | <Zeran> | its been running nicely for weeks doing everything except a timeout on that menu |
| 11:28 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: Chutt already bumped up the fonts for mythgallery |
| 11:29 | <racer32> | :) i thought it was because i changed to 100dpi |
| 11:29 | <crabchips> | can you watch live tv with two different channels on two frontends with only one tv card on the backend? |
| 11:29 | <pahli_bar> | no |
| 11:30 | <racer32> | so pahli whats next on your list? |
| 11:30 | <pahli_bar> | relax? |
| 11:30 | <racer32> | i like the work you are doing! |
| 11:30 | <racer32> | :) |
| 11:30 | <pahli_bar> | heh. just kidding. |
| 11:30 | <racer32> | okay take a break, i'll accept that! :) |
| 11:31 | <pahli_bar> | i need to add gphoto2/exif support to gallery |
| 11:31 | <pahli_bar> | post 0.14 release |
| 11:31 | <o_cee> | pahli_bar: have you looked at photoshop album? |
| 11:32 | <o_cee> | got some really cool features, like tagging of the images |
| 11:32 | <pahli_bar> | o_cee: i have read the reviews yes. |
| 11:32 | <racer32> | you dont need to do a thing! :) But music selection screen is high on my wish list! :) |
| 11:32 | <racer32> | pahli maybe there is still a little bug in the thumbnails |
| 11:32 | <o_cee> | pahli_bar: don't know how the tags are stored, but it'd be very cool to use them in mythgallery ;) ah well |
| 11:33 | <racer32> | is i select a folder which contains two other folders the thumbs are displayed |
| 11:33 | <racer32> | if i go in the tree and show the photos, and later go back to the root the thumbs are gone |
| 11:33 | <racer32> | get it? |
| 11:34 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: cvs which date |
| 11:34 | <racer32> | today |
| 11:35 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: really! let me think |
| 11:35 | <racer32> | really!!! |
| 11:35 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: thumbs are gone from the folder thumbnails? |
| 11:35 | <racer32> | yep |
| 11:36 | <pahli_bar> | somebody else reported the same problem. for the life of me, i can't reproduce it |
| 11:36 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: give me 2 mins |
| 11:37 | <racer32> | first time its okay, if i go back with exit it is gone |
| 11:37 | <Chutt> | i can't reproduce it either |
| 11:37 | <racer32> | i have a folder with 2 subs |
| 11:37 | <racer32> | in the subs there are the pics |
| 11:39 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: let me recreate the exact scenario here. |
| 11:40 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: root folder has one folder. two subfolders for root. subfolders have images in them. correct? |
| 11:41 | <racer32> | my path for photos is /hd2/foto |
| 11:42 | <racer32> | in this path there are several subs with photos |
| 11:42 | <racer32> | one sub has two more subs, which contain the photos |
| 11:42 | <racer32> | am i clear? |
| 11:43 | <pahli_bar> | yup |
| 11:43 | <racer32> | ok |
| 11:44 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: is mythgallery fresh from cvs today too |
| 11:44 | <racer32> | yes |
| 11:44 | <racer32> | i'll check |
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| 11:45 | <racer32> | i'm running MAKE again! to check it again. BRB |
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| 11:51 | <racer32> | ????? Don't know what is happening |
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| 11:52 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: are you compiling from source. or building from ebuilds or similar |
| 11:52 | <racer32> | but now the root screen does not show a thumb at all for the sub! |
| 11:52 | <racer32> | only the one which contains 2 subs |
| 11:53 | <racer32> | the other are fine |
| 11:53 | <racer32> | i don't know if it is meant this way? |
| 11:53 | <racer32> | i'm compiling from source |
| 11:53 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: ok. is it nfs mounted or something |
| 11:54 | <racer32> | nope local |
| 11:54 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: pardon me. just trying to get all info. |
| 11:54 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: what filesystem |
| 11:54 | <racer32> | np, hope that its not my problem! :) |
| 11:55 | <racer32> | hope for a little buggie! |
| 11:55 | <racer32> | if i look at the folders the is a file thumbcache |
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| 11:56 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: and can you see the file for the folder thumbnail |
| 11:56 | <racer32> | in the root, it contains all the subs except one! |
| 11:56 | <racer32> | you know which one |
| 11:56 | <racer32> | :) |
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| 11:57 | <pahli_bar> | humph... |
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