| --- | Log | opened Fri Jan 23 00:00:50 2004 |
| 00:01 | <nulltank> | well, i found it using the wayback machine, and let me just say it was every thing i had hoped it would be and more, o so much more, too much really |
| 00:02 | <Truin> | I'm sorry. |
| 00:05 | <Truin> | ok, last smoke break of the night, then I better finish up some work so I can go home on time. Gotta be back here 9 hours from now. :( |
| 00:05 | <CyberKnet> | =( |
| 00:07 | <Truin> | what is it with the Chinese anyway? Thinking they need a whole week to celebrate one day... it's a new year... only takes on day, people. Sheesh. |
| 00:07 | <Truin> | BRB |
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| 00:31 | <Chutt> | hey thor? |
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| 00:45 | <Octane> | god damnit! |
| 00:45 | <Octane> | mythtv really needs a "warning youre in your playback buffer, hitting X button will cause you to lose it, are you sure" |
| 00:46 | <Octane> | i just did it on a 2 hour buffer :( |
| 00:46 | <thor_> | Chutt |
| 00:46 | <thor_> | what'd I do ? |
| 00:47 | <FooBar01> | I think first they have to fix the LiveTV bugs where it crashes randomly upon watching live tv....today it crashed while it was paused! |
| 00:48 | <Chutt> | if it crashes |
| 00:48 | <Chutt> | get a backtrace. |
| 00:48 | <Octane> | sounds like a problem with your setup dude |
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| 00:48 | <FooBar01> | can't get a backtrace if it freezes my computer |
| 00:48 | <Chutt> | thor, naw, wanted your input on the metadata patch, but i figured out what i was seeing wrong |
| 00:48 | <FooBar01> | it crashes bad |
| 00:48 | <Chutt> | foobar01, then it's not a mythtv problem. |
| 00:48 | <thor_> | sue! |
| 00:48 | <Octane> | do the microsoft dance FooBar01 |
| 00:48 | <Octane> | format reinstall |
| 00:49 | <Chutt> | a userspace program, like mythtv, can _not_ cause your machine to freeze |
| 00:49 | <FooBar01> | but usually its the problem that most people have been having, where it does the "Waiting 2 seconds..." repeating message |
| 00:49 | <thor_> | modprobe myth !! |
| 00:49 | <thor_> | (joking) |
| 00:49 | <Chutt> | foobar01, so start debugging |
| 00:50 | <Truin> | "Waiting 2 seconds..." repeating message for me is resolved by unloading and reloading the ivtv module... but if you're not using ivtv, could be something different. |
| 00:51 | <FooBar01> | Octane: Why would I ever install Microsoft? How would that make things better? |
| 00:51 | <Octane> | ... |
| 00:51 | <Octane> | its a phrase |
| 00:51 | <thor_> | Chutt, you wanting to fiddle with the album art stuff before 0.14 ... I was planning on letting the debate settle down about where the images should sit ... |
| 00:51 | <Octane> | you know when something breaks on windows, you have to uninstall and reinstall |
| 00:51 | <thor_> | (was that why you "paged" me?) |
| 00:51 | <FooBar01> | Truin: not using ivtv...I have a basic WinTV tuner...not the DVR one. |
| 00:52 | <Truin> | hm |
| 00:52 | <thor_> | but I could it put it in sooner with a setting to turn it off |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | thor, i'll just apply it for now |
| 00:53 | <thor_> | k |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | since i already did |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 00:53 | <thor_> | that was easy |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | it can be changed later |
| 00:53 | <FooBar01> | I heard that they fixed the problem in CVS, but I don't think the fix has made it to the Debian package yet. |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | of course it hasn't. |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | there are only packages of releases. |
| 00:54 | <FooBar01> | I'm hoping for a release soon, and that the fix gets included with the release. |
| 00:54 | <thor_> | I'm hoping that someone accidently mails me the title deed to, say, a medium sized European principality |
| 00:55 | <Chutt> | foobar01, so basically, you're just lazy and willing to whine about it instead? |
| 00:55 | <FooBar01> | The problem I've been having has been plaguing many people in the past month. |
| 00:56 | <Chutt> | so? |
| 00:56 | <Chutt> | if you think it's fixed in cvs |
| 00:56 | <Chutt> | try using cvs to see |
| 00:57 | <FooBar01> | Chutt: Nah, more like I'm seeing if anyone in here has anything info about it. |
| 00:57 | <thor_> | no one here but us l003er3 |
| 00:58 | <Truin> | not a problem I've run into, and not one I've heard mentioned... but then again, I built mythtv from source, so, can't help ya with any packaged versions. |
| 00:58 | <FooBar01> | Chutt: The thought entered my mind, but I'd rather use a release. I'm debating whether to switch to CVS or just wait for the next release. |
| 00:58 | <Chutt> | if you have a problem with the latest release |
| 00:58 | <Truin> | FooBar01: depends on how willing you are to wait for a release to see if it fixes it. |
| 00:58 | <Chutt> | and you see it mentioned that the particular problem you're having is fixed in cvs |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | why would you still whine about that problem being in the release? |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | and not just spend the half hour or less it'd take to install cvs and see? |
| 00:59 | <Truin> | THEN EITHER INSTALL THE CVS, OR WAIT! :) sorry, couldn't resist. ;) |
| 01:00 | <Truin> | my frist mythtv build took longer than 30 minutes, but then again there were a lot of deps. |
| 01:00 | <Truin> | the install doc was well written, tho. Had no problems getting it all together. Only problem was in figuring out the key commands... took me a month before I found keys.txt |
| 01:01 | <Chutt> | no one reads the README anymore |
| 01:01 | <Truin> | I hear ya. :( |
| 01:01 | <thor_> | there's a README ?! |
| 01:01 | <thor_> | crap |
| 01:01 | <Truin> | lol |
| 01:02 | <Chutt> | thor, hey, want me to update mfd or do you? |
| 01:02 | <Chutt> | just needs to get rid of the gContext definition in your main.cpp |
| 01:02 | <thor_> | oh yeah |
| 01:03 | <thor_> | I did that already |
| 01:03 | <Chutt> | really? |
| 01:03 | <thor_> | well, not committed |
| 01:03 | <Chutt> | i just committed the libmyth change half a minute ago |
| 01:03 | <thor_> | heh |
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| 01:04 | <thor_> | I had a problem when I was checking if it still builds with --disable-mythlib |
| 01:04 | <thor_> | so I changed that around a little |
| 01:05 | <thor_> | lemme try and build your new commits and see what that does to me |
| 01:11 | <thor_> | ah |
| 01:11 | <thor_> | I see |
| 01:11 | <thor_> | I'll fix it |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | I would like to fix this and was wondering how do I go about, committing the modified sources? (currently read-only cvs access) |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | Or do all patches etc. have to be send in by mail (seems unlikely)? |
| 01:13 | * | thor_ thor looks around in total confusion |
| 01:16 | <Truin> | home time. nighterz, guyz. |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | thor, some random guy emailed me that |
| 01:16 | <thor_> | ah |
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| 01:18 | <Octane> | Chutt, what are the chance of having that "are you sure" dialogue that i spoke about above? |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | if you write it, 100% |
| 01:19 | * | Octane knew that was coming |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 01:19 | <Octane> | i was hoping you would reply to my latest thread |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | hey, about that nes title patch? |
| 01:19 | <Octane> | i gave up coding it |
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| 01:19 | <Octane> | im like derrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | bah |
| 01:19 | <Octane> | i tried doing another patch, something with favorites in mythgame |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | it's just sql wrapped in some tiny bit of c |
| 01:19 | <Octane> | that one worked well, until it got to the file i changed |
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| 01:21 | <sc00p> | Octane: you might want to try turning on browse mode |
| 01:22 | <Octane> | alright |
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| 01:25 | <Chutt> | sfr, hey, where's your streaming code again? |
| 01:25 | <sfr_> | good morning Chutt. here: http://sfr.dyndns.org/mythtv |
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| 01:27 | <Chutt> | sfr, i want to try to get that applied so at least the stuff's started in cvs =) |
| 01:30 | <sfr_> | hmmmm. but test it with local playback before. might be i broke wma playback and/or other decoders again. |
| 01:30 | <Chutt> | you did =) |
| 01:30 | <Chutt> | but i'll fix |
| 01:31 | <sfr_> | iirc mp3 and cd still played fine. |
| 01:31 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 01:31 | <Chutt> | it looked like you broke em, but, no worries |
| 01:31 | <Chutt> | i'll fix everything =) |
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| 01:32 | <sfr_> | got a bit frustrated with trying to keep it well organised. ;) |
| 01:32 | <billytwowilly> | any idea what could make a previously working remote frontend display a black screen with sound playing on mythtv? |
| 01:33 | <Chutt> | billytwowilly, error messages on the console |
| 01:33 | <thor_> | black screen .... no sound .... power failure? |
| 01:33 | <billytwowilly> | nothing on the console. |
| 01:33 | <billytwowilly> | I just ssh'd in and am rebooting it. |
| 01:33 | <billytwowilly> | black screen, but sound plays. |
| 01:33 | <thor_> | ah |
| 01:33 | <thor_> | never mind |
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| 01:34 | <billytwowilly> | I know the recording is good because I watched one before and the new one I'm trying to watch has a working picture in the display.. |
| 01:34 | <billytwowilly> | on mythweb.. |
| 01:34 | <billytwowilly> | I'm hoping the trick I learned running windows 98 will work:0 |
| 01:34 | <billytwowilly> | err. |
| 01:34 | <billytwowilly> | ;) |
| 01:35 | <billytwowilly> | hmm. reboot didn't work. |
| 01:37 | <billytwowilly> | score! |
| 01:37 | <billytwowilly> | I did a killall totem on the frontend and that fixed it. silly improperly exiting totem... |
| 01:38 | <billytwowilly> | it's funny how just asking your question somewhere can help you figure it out. |
| 01:38 | <billytwowilly> | anyhoo, I'll stop spamming the channel now and go watch csi;) |
| 01:38 | <billytwowilly> | thanks. |
| 01:47 | <Octane> | Chutt you have been much nicer lately, how come |
| 01:47 | <Octane> | i have noticed an increase in your smiley usage |
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| 01:58 | <srl> | haha |
| 01:58 | <srl> | Octane: Maybe I've annoyed him less |
| 02:00 | <sfr_> | Chutt: so, did you already delete the patch in disgust? |
| 02:03 | <thor_> | hmmm ... we seem to be at LIBVERSION 14 |
| 02:04 | <Octane> | lol srl |
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| 04:17 | <czn> | 'morning everyone |
| 04:18 | <czn> | I'm trying to get mythtv going with pvr 350 (pal-b/g) and debian unstable |
| 04:18 | <czn> | however, it keeps defaulting to NTSC even thought I've set the std to pal |
| 04:19 | <czn> | I'm using the 0.13 .deb packages from http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu:8088/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/ |
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| 04:20 | <czn> | are there any better versions available? maybe in cvs? |
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| 05:39 | <o_cee> | pahli_bar: galleryfolder.png in my theme is obselete now, right? |
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| 08:19 | <Niqo> | chutt: around? |
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| 08:36 | <Matt> | gah, ananova killing listings is a real pita |
| 08:54 | <Peit|work> | Matt, have you converted to the other grabber yet? |
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| 08:55 | <Matt> | in the process of doing so |
| 08:56 | <Matt> | but kinda hard as it's at home and I'm at work :&) |
| 08:56 | <Matt> | and this ssh is laggy |
| 08:56 | <Matt> | following up on http://www.bleb.org/tv2 (as posted to list) |
| 08:57 | <Matt> | might write a script to read in those xml files and spit out something mythtv can use |
| 08:58 | <UKP> | there is a new xmltv grabber using http://www.broadcastingdata.com/listing/download.html coming out soon |
| 08:59 | <Matt> | it's a real shame digiguide refuse to help |
| 08:59 | <Matt> | considering I use that on the windows machines |
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| 09:01 | <Matt> | ukp, still, that's good news |
| 09:04 | <UKP> | seems to have listing up till the end of march |
| 09:04 | <UKP> | obviously there will be amendements before then |
| 09:05 | * | Matt nods |
| 09:09 | <Matt> | ~R~? |
| 09:09 | <Matt> | peh |
| 09:09 | <Matt> | ssh is acting up |
| 09:10 | <Matt> | I think BT is dropping packets |
| 09:10 | <Matt> | either that or ntl is - I suspet BT |
| 09:10 | <Matt> | google refuses to work as well |
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| 09:17 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: here? |
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| 10:12 | <pahli_bar> | o_cee: yes. galleryfolder.png is obsolete now |
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| 11:38 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, docs sync? |
| 11:50 | <mdz> | _rkulagow: I was looking for info on a kernel oops that I've seen a number of times, and came across a post of yours about a similar problem to lkml (generic_file_write). Did you ever get a resolution to your problem? |
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| 11:59 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: should i change the rotate cw/ccw to right/left? |
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| 12:02 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, up to you |
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| 12:03 | <pahli_bar> | some people seem to be complaining about it. http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=News&file=comments&op=showreply&tid=458&sid=100&pid=457&mode=&order=&thold=#458 |
| 12:03 | <Chutt> | it may make it slightly more clear what it's doing, that's all |
| 12:03 | <Chutt> | i don't really mind either way |
| 12:04 | <pahli_bar> | ah well. since its only one person, i will just wait for more complaints after the release |
| 12:04 | <kvandivo> | what does "rotate left" mean? that the top of the image moves to the left side, or that the bottom of the image moves to the left side? |
| 12:05 | <pahli_bar> | there is a special place for people who think so much as you do :) |
| 12:05 | <kvandivo> | my point is that clockwise and counterclockwise is very clear, unless you have one of those strange bar clocks that runs backwards.. |
| 12:07 | <pahli_bar> | kvandivo: its definitely more clear. the problem here is that because of space-limitations i abbreviated them to CW and CCW |
| 12:13 | <Chutt> | keep em as they are |
| 12:13 | <Chutt> | final decision! |
| 12:13 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 12:13 | <pahli_bar> | heh. |
| 12:15 | <kvandivo> | it has been spoken, and thus it shall be |
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| 12:18 | <Chutt> | kvandivo, hey, you had time to work on your patch at all? |
| 12:20 | <kvandivo> | what needs done to it? I've changed the table names.. |
| 12:20 | <Chutt> | did you resubmit it? |
| 12:20 | <kvandivo> | not yet. had been meaning to talk to you to see if there was anything else to do before resubing |
| 12:20 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 12:20 | <Chutt> | i'll look things over again, then |
| 12:20 | <kvandivo> | the proposal went out on monday and i've been in recovery mode since then |
| 12:23 | <kvandivo> | now that i'm starting to find some time, i need to reread bjm's comments (and my response to it) and see if there was anything in there that i needed to do.. |
| 12:23 | <kvandivo> | i can't recall, off the top of my head |
| 12:24 | <Chutt> | neither can i =) |
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| 12:26 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: docs sync please. |
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| 12:26 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, i did it a little earlier -- again? |
| 12:26 | <_rkulagow> | whoops. let me check if i'm cached. |
| 12:26 | <_rkulagow> | sorry, my bad. forced a refresh and there it was. thanks. |
| 12:26 | <kvandivo> | could that be automated? a script on the webserver or something that that password protected.. |
| 12:27 | <kvandivo> | second 'that' -> is |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | probably |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | i'm lazy, though |
| 12:27 | * | kvandivo grins evily. |
| 12:27 | <_rkulagow> | ick. the whole uk grabber thing sucks. i haven't seen any messages on the s00per-sekrit US offering in a long time. |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | neither have i |
| 12:28 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: hey, i vote for CW/CCW |
| 12:28 | <pahli_bar> | sfr: too late. the master overlord has made his decision (though in your favor) |
| 12:29 | <sfr> | right, just spotted it |
| 12:30 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: is john danner still around? he did mythweather, correct? |
| 12:32 | <Chutt> | he's in here occasionally |
| 12:33 | <Chutt> | hasn't contributed code in a while |
| 12:33 | <Chutt> | and yeah, he did mythweather |
| 12:33 | <_rkulagow> | ok; a user has sent me a "missing city" report for mythweather. |
| 12:33 | <Sastraxi> | hey, does anyone know what version of mythdvd ripping was added into? is it CVS still? |
| 12:34 | <Chutt> | the very first version of mythdvd |
| 12:34 | <sfr> | _rkulagow: Bagdad? |
| 12:34 | <pahli_bar> | lol |
| 12:35 | <sfr> | but that would probably be a 'missing country' report |
| 12:35 | <kvandivo> | atlantis, actually.. |
| 12:35 | <Sastraxi> | hmm... do you have to enable it in setup? I don't have a button for it... i have DVD and VCD... |
| 12:35 | <kvandivo> | forecast: wet, wet, wet.. |
| 12:35 | <_rkulagow> | "Disentis, Western Europe (Switzerland)" |
| 12:35 | <_rkulagow> | bbl. |
| 12:36 | <pahli_bar> | _rkulagow: should be very easy to add that. accid.dat |
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| 13:10 | <pahli_bar> | ah screwballs. sourceforge cvs offline for the weekend |
| 13:10 | <Chutt> | ah, the wonders of having my own machine for everything =) |
| 13:12 | <pahli_bar> | heh. |
| 13:12 | <pahli_bar> | how much does it cost to maintain the domain-name and bandwidth |
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| 13:19 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, i'm sharing the machine with other people, it's $100 a month total |
| 13:19 | <Chutt> | i currently pay $20 of that |
| 13:20 | <Chutt> | which reminds me, i need to send a check to snow-man |
| 13:20 | <Snow-Man> | I agree. |
| 13:20 | <Snow-Man> | :) |
| 13:21 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: thats not bad at all. for the amount of bandwidth mythtv.org thats a very good price |
| 13:21 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: Do we use even 1/10th the bandwidth yet? |
| 13:22 | <Chutt> | snowman, based on the weekly average, yeah |
| 13:22 | <Snow-Man> | Looks like were currently using around 14%. |
| 13:22 | <Chutt> | i think, unless my math's wrong |
| 13:23 | <Snow-Man> | I was looking at the monthly graph average. |
| 13:23 | <Snow-Man> | Then X/8*(60*60*24*30.5) or so. |
| 13:23 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 13:25 | <Snow-Man> | The alternative is to just compare 1000*8/(60*60*24*30.5) to the average in + average out. :) |
| 13:25 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 13:25 | <Chutt> | awstats 6.0 is out now |
| 13:26 | <Snow-Man> | That'd be 59.6+387.7 / 3183.29, btw. :) |
| 13:26 | <Chutt> | debian packages are still stuck at 5.4 or whatnot |
| 13:27 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf. |
| 13:27 | <Snow-Man> | The maintainer said he'd package up new debs 15 Sep 2003. |
| 13:27 | <Chutt> | 6.0's supposedly faster |
| 13:27 | <Chutt> | ie, less time spent spinning at 100% cpu :) |
| 13:27 | <Snow-Man> | Yeah, can't complain about that really. |
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| 13:31 | <Chutt> | waiting for the ups guy is boring |
| 13:33 | <Chutt> | heh, number 1 referrer for the month is that japanese mythtv thingie |
| 13:33 | <Snow-Man> | heh. |
| 13:35 | <pahli_bar> | from the ask mythtv section: how do you deal with co-developers who use terrible coding styles? |
| 13:39 | <Chutt> | i don't give people cvs access until their coding style's readable =) |
| 13:39 | <Snow-Man> | Well, that maintainer *appears* active, on some stuff at least... |
| 13:40 | <Snow-Man> | He's got a whole crapload of packages. |
| 13:42 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: delivering a MVP-1000, right? |
| 13:42 | <Chutt> | new laptop |
| 13:42 | <Chutt> | i did almost go for the mvp for $70 at circuitcity deal, though |
| 13:42 | <_rkulagow> | ah, almost as good. dell? |
| 13:42 | <Chutt> | decided i didn't have the time to figure stuff out, though |
| 13:42 | <Chutt> | yeah, dell 600m |
| 13:43 | <_rkulagow> | i'm hoping that my $20 gift card from CC comes today or tomorrow so i can pick one up. |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | they do look neat |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | but i don't want to spend time making it work =) |
| 13:44 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, I've pinged him again and said I'd take it over if he's too busy |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | i'd get one if it just worked |
| 13:45 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: So maybe soon you'll just have me to bitch at when a new version comes out. :) |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 13:46 | <Snow-Man> | He did a new version of 5.6 a little over a month ago. Heh. |
| 13:47 | <Chutt> | that's stupid |
| 13:47 | <Chutt> | 5.9 was out then |
| 13:47 | <Snow-Man> | Yeah, I know. |
| 13:48 | <Snow-Man> | There's also a patch to make the Debian stuff work with 5.9 that's been in the bug report for a while. |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | hmmmm |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | i'm pondering replacing my mini-itx with a micro-atx board |
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| 15:14 | <o_cee> | thor? |
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| 15:21 | <littlezoper> | anyone using a mini-itx board in a mythtv box? i'm wanting to build one, but I need to know who has had success with which boards... |
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| 15:22 | <lmatter> | I use frontend only. http://linpvr.org |
| 15:23 | <littlezoper> | hrm... |
| 15:26 | <littlezoper> | that via board does OK with decoding? |
| 15:27 | <lmatter> | It does now, http://ivor.it/cle266 |
| 15:28 | <littlezoper> | gotcha...thx... |
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| 15:34 | <knight-> | heh |
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| 16:03 | <lmatter> | Anyone know of the X double buffer extension is a benefit to MythTV? |
| 16:03 | <lmatter> | s/of/if/ |
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| 16:36 | <pahli_bar> | lmatter: not very sure here. qt widgets tend to do double buffering of their own. so do most of the myth plugins when using custom themeable UITypes. i don't know how the tv/video playback works |
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| 16:40 | <lmatter> | pahli_bar, thanks. |
| 16:45 | <pahli_bar> | lmatter: if you don't see any flickers anywhere, then you don't need to worry about it |
| 16:47 | <lmatter> | no flickers. Just trying to eek all the power out of my epia so it won't stutter during OSD transition. |
| 16:48 | <pahli_bar> | double buffering usually demands more video memory. in your case it can help to turn it off |
| 16:49 | <lmatter> | cool. |
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| 16:52 | <_rkulagow> | magic smoke left my 8 port switch. |
| 16:53 | <Rroet> | hello |
| 16:54 | <kvandivo> | not good if it lost its ability to contain the magic smoke.. |
| 16:54 | <Rroet> | I just compiled mythtv-cvs as of tonights cvs... it gives me a hickup video/audio every 2 seconds. |
| 16:54 | <Rroet> | I'm using viaslice btw |
| 16:55 | <lmatter> | _rkulagow, lemme guess. Linksys. |
| 16:56 | <_rkulagow> | nope. want another guess? |
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| 16:57 | <o_cee> | thor_: i need you... |
| 16:58 | <lmatter> | _rkulagow, no thanks. Just had bad luck with Linksys. What was it? |
| 16:58 | <_rkulagow> | hawking. |
| 16:58 | <lmatter> | is that a cheapie? |
| 16:58 | <_rkulagow> | fairly cheap i suppose. it's no 3524 or anything like that. |
| 16:58 | <kvandivo> | linksys rocks |
| 17:00 | <lmatter> | 3 linksys components, 2 dead in 1 year. I'm very happy with my netgear now. |
| 17:01 | <kvandivo> | sorry to hear about your bad luck.. here where i work and among coworkers we have about 10-15 linksys boxes and have had great luck with them |
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| 17:53 | <pahli_bar> | how many of you don't have univers condensed font. check by fc-list |grep -i univers |
| 17:54 | * | sfr raises his hand |
| 17:54 | * | mecraw_ too |
| 17:54 | <pahli_bar> | is that a yes or no? |
| 17:55 | * | mecraw_ doesn't have it |
| 17:55 | <sfr> | a yes, i don't have this font installed |
| 17:55 | <pahli_bar> | damn you people. go get some decent fonts installed... |
| 17:55 | <sfr> | what for? |
| 17:56 | <lmatter> | I use Zapf Dingbats so no one knows what I've recorded. |
| 17:56 | <pahli_bar> | looking for some condensed fonts here... so that i can use bigger fonts in mythnews and still fit in text. |
| 17:58 | <sams__> | no univers font here either |
| 17:58 | sams__ | is now known as sams2100 |
| 17:59 | <sams2100> | I got a font called Georgia though! |
| 17:59 | sbh | is now known as sbh-{ |
| 17:59 | sbh-{ | is now known as sbh-at-work |
| 17:59 | <o_cee> | i don't have it either pahli_bar |
| 18:00 | <pahli_bar> | ah well... i seem to be the only one |
| 18:00 | <o_cee> | heh |
| 18:00 | <o_cee> | while you guys are at it |
| 18:00 | <o_cee> | you all have impact right? |
| 18:00 | * | pahli_bar has everthing... (except georgia) |
| 18:00 | <sams2100> | no impact |
| 18:00 | <pahli_bar> | sams2100: what do you have then :) |
| 18:01 | <sfr> | o_cee: yes |
| 18:01 | <sams2100> | woops, nm, needed a -i |
| 18:01 | <sfr> | courier? |
| 18:01 | <sams2100> | I have it |
| 18:01 | <o_cee> | good :) |
| 18:01 | <sams2100> | only regular though, no bold or anything |
| 18:01 | <o_cee> | wonder where chutt is |
| 18:01 | <pahli_bar> | impact doesn't have bold |
| 18:01 | <sams2100> | how can it be like an impact with no bold? |
| 18:01 | <o_cee> | pahli_bar: do you know your way around qtlook.txt? |
| 18:02 | <pahli_bar> | o_cee: nope. sorry |
| 18:02 | <o_cee> | allrighty |
| 18:02 | <pahli_bar> | sams2100: impact by default is very bold. any more bold it will be smudge |
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| 18:05 | <pahli_bar> | arial narrow it is then |
| 18:05 | <o_cee> | i don't have that one :P |
| 18:05 | <o_cee> | j/k |
| 18:05 | <sams2100> | has anyone attempted to write a gaim plugin before that would allow for a ticker like thing that could run at the bottom of the screen while you watch tv? |
| 18:05 | <pahli_bar> | oh crap. i think i should just let the theme designers worry about it then |
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| 18:06 | <pahli_bar> | sams2100: gaim? |
| 18:06 | <sams2100> | gaim |
| 18:06 | <o_cee> | pahli_bar: i was just kidding :) |
| 18:06 | <sams2100> | you know... IM |
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| 18:06 | <pahli_bar> | o_cee: phew. |
| 18:06 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 18:07 | <o_cee> | but |
| 18:07 | <o_cee> | mythtv@dragon mythtvcvs $ fc-list |grep -i arial |
| 18:07 | <o_cee> | Arial:style=Regular |
| 18:07 | <o_cee> | Arial Black:style=Regular |
| 18:07 | <o_cee> | Arial:style=Bold Italic |
| 18:07 | <o_cee> | Arial:style=Italic |
| 18:07 | <o_cee> | Arial:style=Bold |
| 18:07 | <o_cee> | no narrow it seems.. :/ |
| 18:07 | <pcjabber> | does native LIRC behave differently than IRXevent? |
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| 18:07 | <pahli_bar> | sams2100: don't know how much interest is there for that kind of thing. it sort of means a single user frontend |
| 18:08 | <sams2100> | pahli_bar, why would that require a single user frontend? |
| 18:09 | <pcjabber> | does native LIRC behave differently than irxevent? That is, does it not just pass straight commands to mythtv? |
| 18:09 | <pcjabber> | and whats everyone's opinion on native LIRC vs irxevent? |
| 18:09 | <pahli_bar> | pcjabber: are you using X11? |
| 18:09 | <sams2100> | have not tried native here yet... irx works so I stick with it |
| 18:09 | <pcjabber> | yes pahli |
| 18:10 | <pcjabber> | brb |
| 18:10 | <pahli_bar> | pcjabber: if you are there's no advantage to using native lirc |
| 18:10 | <pahli_bar> | sams2100: it doesn't but for people with families there could be a situation like person A getting annoyed by IM messages intended for person B |
| 18:11 | * | o_cee is away: asleep |
| 18:12 | <sams2100> | pahli_bar, yes, I can see that... but for a dedicated mythtv box, have you heard of a plugin like that? if not, I might look into making one because I tried gaim the other night and it worked great (with large fonts of course) |
| 18:12 | <pahli_bar> | sams2100: ahhh... you are talking about a plugin for gaim.... i thought for myth.. |
| 18:13 | <sams2100> | oh, no... sorry, should have been more clear |
| 18:14 | <sams2100> | mythtv plugins are basically limited to one running at one time right? Like you cant play mp3's and play a rom |
| 18:14 | <pcjabber> | pahli, what do ou mean by that? |
| 18:14 | <pcjabber> | you* |
| 18:14 | <pahli_bar> | pcjabber: if you are there's no advantage to using native lirc |
| 18:14 | <pcjabber> | why not? |
| 18:14 | <pahli_bar> | pcjabber: why not what? |
| 18:15 | <pcjabber> | sams, at the moment, yes |
| 18:17 | <sams2100> | think he's wanting to know what the differences are between them... if any |
| 18:17 | <pahli_bar> | if you are not using X11 like running a framebuffer, your only option is to use native lirc |
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| 18:21 | <pcjabber> | ahh |
| 18:27 | <drd-> | nvtv prog is pos :( |
| 18:29 | <drd-> | anyone here using it? can joo show me the command line u use to make it so picture fits your tv? :( |
| 18:29 | <pahli_bar> | nvtv kept crashing for me. i gave up and learnt to live with a little underscan |
| 18:30 | <pahli_bar> | there are some old nvidia drivers which do the over/under scan ok. |
| 18:30 | <pahli_bar> | search the user mailing lists |
| 18:32 | <o_cee> | 4363 wich is the recommended version works without problems |
| 18:33 | <pahli_bar> | omg o_cee talks in his sleep and still sounds reasonable |
| 18:34 | <o_cee> | wah |
| 18:34 | <o_cee> | thor woke up so i'm still up a little |
| 18:34 | <o_cee> | ;) |
| 18:34 | * | o_cee is back (gone 00:23:06) |
| 18:34 | <o_cee> | dammit |
| 18:34 | <o_cee> | :) never going to get any sleep |
| 18:35 | <sfr> | should we sing you a lullaby? |
| 18:36 | <o_cee> | i'm happy now, my problem got solved ;) |
| 18:37 | <thor_> | hurrah |
| 18:37 | * | pahli_bar is not very sure he wants to know what problem o_cee was solving on his bed |
| 18:37 | <o_cee> | hey! :) |
| 18:37 | <sfr> | is showering involved? |
| 18:38 | <thor_> | hmmm sveedish girlfriends |
| 18:38 | <o_cee> | riiiight |
| 18:38 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 18:40 | * | o_cee is away: now i'm going to bed for real :) |
| 18:40 | <o_cee> | bye bye |
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| 18:59 | <drd-> | well foook |
| 18:59 | <drd-> | are there svideo to composite connectors? |
| 18:59 | <thor_> | yup |
| 18:59 | <drd-> | coz my tv overscans thru the composite but not svideo |
| 19:00 | <drd-> | and nvtv no work :( |
| 19:00 | <thor_> | little $4 thingy at crap shack (if you're in NA) |
| 19:00 | <drd-> | coo |
| 19:04 | <drd-> | thinky all i have left to do is make it record tons of shit ;o |
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| 19:50 | <kelt> | wow... |
| 19:50 | <kelt> | can anyone tell me what this error means? |
| 19:50 | <kelt> | BlackRose:/ # /etc/cron.daily/mythtv-backend |
| 19:50 | <kelt> | Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| 19:51 | <Justin_> | kelt: some qt thing, ignore it? |
| 19:52 | <kelt> | Justin_, ok.. but shouldn't there be more output afterwards? |
| 19:52 | <Justin_> | kelt: cat /etc/cron.daily/mythtv-backend |
| 19:55 | <kelt> | Justin_, ok... |
| 19:56 | <kelt> | could you tell me what this means? |
| 19:56 | <kelt> | BlackRose:/home/kelt # /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start |
| 19:56 | <kelt> | Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| 19:59 | <kelt> | same thing i'm guessing? |
| 20:01 | <Justin_> | yes |
| 20:02 | <Justin_> | it being the exact same message and all |
| 20:03 | <kelt> | hmm |
| 20:03 | <kelt> | lol |
| 20:03 | <kelt> | sorry |
| 20:03 | <kelt> | ok.. here's a good question |
| 20:03 | <kelt> | how do i fix this? (i try running mythtv) |
| 20:04 | <kelt> | mythtv: could not connect to socket |
| 20:04 | <kelt> | mythtv: Connection refused |
| 20:05 | <kelt> | ... and after taht i get something even worse |
| 20:05 | <kelt> | 2004-01-23 18:47:07 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| 20:05 | <kelt> | Connection timed out. |
| 20:05 | <kelt> | You probably should modify the Master Server settings |
| 20:05 | <kelt> | although my eth0 is 192.168.0.1 :( |
| 20:05 | * | bdale realizes his daughter has figured out how to change themes on the frontend in the family room... /o\ |
| 20:06 | <kelt> | and i did a /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart even |
| 20:10 | <kelt> | in my /var/logs/mythtv/ i have this |
| 20:10 | <kelt> | Database error was: |
| 20:10 | <kelt> | Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
| 20:10 | <kelt> | apparently i'm supplying the wrong password.. :/ |
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| 20:48 | <p0lar> | anyone want to help a noob with a pvr 250 IR remote prob? |
| 20:48 | <p0lar> | running knopix myth R4 |
| 20:48 | <p0lar> | I get the no device prob |
| 20:49 | <p0lar> | I have checked the perms 666 |
| 20:49 | <p0lar> | on the /dev/lirc etc |
| 20:49 | <p0lar> | but to cannot run irrecord or mode2 |
| 20:49 | <p0lar> | they both crash the lircd |
| 20:52 | <p0lar> | anyone here? |
| 20:53 | <p0lar> | am I even on this channel? i starting to hear voices in my head its so quiet |
| 20:54 | <Peit|Home> | ls /dev/lirc/0? |
| 20:55 | <Peit|Home> | see if it runs devfs |
| 20:55 | <Peit|Home> | if so lircd --device=/dev/lirc/0 apparently works |
| 20:56 | <p0lar> | its not running devfs |
| 20:57 | <p0lar> | dev/lirc is a char file |
| 21:01 | <Peit|Home> | dunno then, sorry |
| 21:03 | <p0lar> | thanks |
| 21:03 | <p0lar> | when is a good time to ask stuff in here? when is it most active? |
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| 21:11 | <asdlfjkklsj> | Anyone using their MythTV box with a Motorola DCT2000 cable box? |
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| 21:17 | <asdlfjkklsj> | i'm curious how the pc running mythv would control the channel of the DCT2000 box... |
| 21:19 | <pcjabber> | bbl |
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| 21:23 | <drd-> | what version of lirc comes with knoppix? |
| 21:24 | <drd-> | coz u need newest :/ |
| 21:26 | % | Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mdz |
| 21:26 | % | Netsplit over, joins: mdz |
| 21:26 | % | ServerMode/#mythtv: +bbb *!*dmitry@*.bchsia.telus.net *!*BigJim@*.paralynx.net fulmust!*@* by capek.freenode.net |
| 21:32 | <asdlfjkklsj> | lirc is used to control a cable or other box (i.e. to change channels, etc.) right? |
| 21:46 | <drd-> | who's usin nvtv successfully? :p |
| 21:47 | <cmorgan> | nvtv? |
| 21:47 | <DJ_Rican> | nvtv? |
| 21:48 | * | DJ_Rican can get lirc working with irw but not irxevent! any ideas? |
| 21:49 | <lmatter> | DJ_Rican, errors message? |
| 21:49 | <DJ_Rican> | none |
| 21:49 | <lmatter> | check /var/log/lircd? |
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| 21:50 | <DJ_Rican> | ok |
| 21:51 | <DJ_Rican> | no errors on /var/log/lirc |
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| 21:53 | <DJ_nixbox> | Jan 23 19:55:23 media lircd 0.7.0pre1: removed client |
| 21:53 | <DJ_nixbox> | Jan 23 19:55:38 media lircd 0.7.0pre1: accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
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| 21:54 | <DJ_nixbox> | that's what it says |
| 21:54 | <drd-> | why not use myth's support for it |
| 21:55 | <DJ_Rican> | because i didn't compile mythtv, i used Thac's RPMS |
| 21:55 | <drd-> | thac isnt sexy then :( |
| 21:56 | <drd-> | are u using a window manager? |
| 21:56 | <lmatter> | Don't need one for irxevent |
| 21:56 | <lmatter> | I'm not using one, works fine. |
| 21:57 | <lmatter> | Maybe time to break out strace. |
| 21:58 | <DJ_Rican> | window manager? |
| 21:59 | <aceat64> | what's the transcode flag for mythdvd (using Gentoo) used for? |
| 21:59 | <lmatter> | Yeah, don't need a window manager if yer just using mythfrontend and irxevent. |
| 21:59 | <DJ_Rican> | but my remote doesn't work with irxevent.... it does with irw tho... :( |
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| 22:00 | <drd-> | i had the same prob |
| 22:00 | <DJ_Rican> | how did you fix it? |
| 22:00 | <drd-> | but instead of tryin to figure out irxevent, i just used myth's thing |
| 22:00 | <DJ_Rican> | :( |
| 22:00 | <DJ_Rican> | i can't |
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| 22:13 | <rOOfus> | hello all |
| 22:14 | <rOOfus> | sorry for the newbie question, but would an athlon 900 be enough to use for a mythtv |