TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#mythtv:2004:01:21

---	Log	opened Wed Jan 21 00:00:10 2004
00:02	<tmk>	so is it a user choice
00:02	<tmk>	or isn't it
00:04	<Netslayer>	if i have a .nuv file (mpeg4) how do i extract the audio with mythtranscode? i've tried start times like mythtranscode -s 20040117190000, but it says it can't find it
00:05	<Netslayer>	"Couldn't find recording 1833 Fri Nov 19 00:00:00 2004"
00:06	<Niqo>	no, it does not look like max/min is an option, but you should be able to reach 16x if i've read it right
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00:08	<Niqo>	and you could add to the seek_speed_array without code implications (well coded, whoever did it (searching mythtv commits))
00:13	<tmk>	if speed > 3.0 return false
00:13	<tmk>	:)
00:13	<tmk>	videoout_ivtv.cpp
00:13	<Niqo>	bah
00:14	<Niqo>	that's just nasty (david?)?
00:14	<Niqo>	or maybe it has a purpose (wouldn't think so tho)...
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01:30	<Chutt>	tmk, going faster requires work from mythtv to do some skipping, iirc
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01:44	<tmk>	chutt: :ah thx
01:45	<tmk>	i tried setting it faster and it just went back to normal speed :)
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01:45	<tmk>	what about rewinding.. i think if you transfer the GOP's in reverse order (and remove the check from ivtv) it will play inrewind properly
01:51	<Chutt>	again, just requires work from mythtv to do
01:51	<Chutt>	so, sometime in the future :p
01:51	<tmk>	:)
01:51	<tmk>	i'll just bug david
01:54	<Chutt>	he wants that decoder position ioctl
01:54	<Chutt>	first =)
01:55	<tmk>	eh?
01:55	<tmk>	you mean the windowed decoding
01:55	<Chutt>	yeah
01:55	<tmk>	yeah that was interesting
01:55	<tmk>	later in 0.2.x
01:55	<tmk>	:)
01:55	<Chutt>	he mentioned writing a patch for 1.9 for it, i think
01:55	<tmk>	cool
01:56	<Chutt>	unless you're planning on getting the 0.2. stuff stable sometime soon
01:56	<tmk>	eh
01:56	<tmk>	it loads now
01:56	<tmk>	mostly
01:56	<Chutt>	heh
01:56	<tmk>	i could probably get it working with the old buffering in a few days
01:56	<tmk>	so as it would be functional
01:57	<tmk>	speaking of which
01:57	<tmk>	my backend just crashed
01:57	<Chutt>	get a backtrace :p
01:58	<tmk>	maybe i will
01:58	<tmk>	maybe i will..
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02:03	<tmk>	how come when i schedule a show to record that's already started
02:03	<tmk>	i have to restart mythbackend to get it to record
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02:07	<tmk>	chutt: i guess it's not crashing, but i get a "ReadStringList timeout" when i try and watch a currently-recording show'
02:07	<tmk>	on my remote frontend
02:07	<srl>	If mythmusic stops for a few seconds, then continues playing the music (from a samba share), is it probably some wireless ethernet issue?
02:09	<tmk>	chutt: hmm. it seems that it announces the connection to the backend has been lost, but if i click 'OK' it plays the video anyways
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02:18	<srl>	I wonder if the wireless is messing stuff up, or the playing off a samba share
02:18	<tharvey>	just joined - what problems srl? I play files off samba share
02:20	<srl>	tharvey: There are random pauses during songs that last a few seconds
02:20	<srl>	tharvey: Then the song continues
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02:21	<srl>	tharvey: Are you using any options when mounting the share?
02:24	<tharvey>	I have a external NAS, Mythtv system mounts using NFS (rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192), mounted also via SMB windows... play from either system fine
02:25	<srl>	So, it is a wireless issue
02:25	<srl>	Hmmm
02:25	<srl>	Maybe I should see if disabling WEP helps
02:25	<srl>	heh
02:25	<tharvey>	802.11b?
02:25	<srl>	Yeah
02:25	<srl>	USB adapter
02:25	<srl>	he
02:25	<srl>	h
02:25	<tharvey>	whats bitrate of song playing?
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02:26	<srl>	tharvey: 192
02:27	<tharvey>	shouldn't be any problem
02:27	<tharvey>	other things on your USB hub?
02:27	<tharvey>	cruddy drivers?
02:29	<o_cee>	just try without the wireless stuff to see if that's the problem.
02:30	<tharvey>	yup
02:31	<tharvey>	well, he copied file locally and it plays fine, so its definately wireless... not sure why
02:31	<tharvey>	how do you create a patch that adds files which were not previously existant in CVS (ie, cvs diff doesn't pick them up)
02:32	<o_cee>	hmm.. never done that.. search the archive, isaac writes it once a week or something :)
02:33	<tharvey>	well ya, how to create a patch, but when I did it, it didn't include files that I created as new
02:34	<o_cee>	i know what you mean
02:35	<tharvey>	searched before in archive but couldn't find any description of that, that things a bear to search
02:36	<o_cee>	yeah, only thing i found was diff -ud, but that's not ut
02:36	<o_cee>	and man diff didn't show anything useful in a quick scan
02:37	<srl>	Would changing the buffer size in maddecoder.cpp be a bad idea? :)
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03:11	<knight->	any qt gurus around?
03:11	*	thor_ looks around
03:11	<knight->	:)
03:12	<knight->	thor you have much experience with QUrlOperator?
03:13	<thor_>	not much no, but is it a complicated thing ?
03:13	<tharvey>	i've used it a bit
03:13	<knight->	not really, i made a really simple project and everything compiles fine
03:13	<knight->	.copy() doesnt seem to fetch my url object
03:14	<knight->	op->copy(url2, "file:/tmp", FALSE);
03:14	<thor_>	is the url file:/ ftp:// etc ?
03:14	<knight->	http://
03:14	<thor_>	this in myth, or something else ?
03:15	<knight->	well it will be for myth
03:15	<thor_>	(cause you gotta watch what thread your in if its in myth)
03:15	<knight->	but i'm testing code in a non QApplication
03:15	<thor_>	ah
03:15	<thor_>	you need the Qt event loop running
03:15	<tharvey>	you using it right? its copy(from, to)
03:15	<knight->	tharvey, indeed :)
03:15	<knight->	op->copy(url2, "file:/tmp", FALSE);
03:16	<knight->	thor, i do?
03:16	<thor_>	cause it's gotta open a socket, get stuff back, etc., etc., and that's all driven off internal events
03:16	<tharvey>	perms ok? can you 'wget' url2, and can you write to /tmp?
03:16	<knight->	tharvey, indeed, plus i'm running as root
03:16	<thor_>	you don't need a qt GUI, but you need the event loop
03:16	<knight->	thor, well i'm extending QNetworkProtocol with my class
03:16	<tharvey>	yup, thor's right bout that
03:16	<thor_>	(I'm, say 95% sure)
03:16	<knight->	and i've connected the op
03:17	<knight->	the network tutorial doesnt show anything about that :)
03:17	<thor_>	you don't get the file right away .... when it's all done, it will fire finished()
03:17	<thor_>	then you can "pick up" your file
03:18	<knight->	yeah
03:18	<knight->	i'm connecting finished()
03:18	<knight->	how do i "pick up" the file
03:18	<knight->	thought copy() does that
03:18	<thor_>	but finish will not get fired() if Qt doesn't have its event loop
03:18	<knight->	ahh
03:18	<thor_>	copy() just starts the process
03:18	<knight->	have a url for me?
03:18	<knight->	:)
03:18	<thor_>	but returns immediately
03:18	<tharvey>	finishing getting called? how about start, data, etc?
03:18	<thor_>	(no blocking)
03:19	<Chutt>	knight, check out libs/libmyth/httpcomms
03:19	<knight->	tharvey, i suppose i should connect those
03:19	<knight->	Chutt, thanks
03:19	<Chutt>	getHttp(), to be specific
03:19	<knight->	yeah
03:19	<knight->	i've seen it
03:19	<knight->	it's a little different
03:19	<Chutt>	that demonstrates running the event loop while waiting for stuff to happen
03:19	<tharvey>	hey ya, use getHttp :P I wrote that
03:20	<knight->	sure i could do that
03:20	<knight->	i just didnt want to get too deep into myth specific stuff until i wrote most of my core stuff
03:20	<knight->	primarily because i'm developing over ssh, and not at the X terminal
03:20	<tharvey>	getHttp is basically for simplicity... it will block in your code until the http is done
03:20	<knight->	ahh
03:20	<knight->	perfect
03:21	<tharvey>	I did it specifically for things that you wouldn't want to save to a file, but get as a string
03:21	<knight->	libmyth isnt tied to QApplication right?
03:21	<tharvey>	and it handles redirects for you
03:21	<knight->	tharvey, yeah thats not what i want :)
03:22	<knight->	i'm using QUrlOperator.copy() specifically for binary files
03:22	<tharvey>	mythvideo/videomanager uses a QUrlOperator to copy like your doing... nothing special
03:22	<knight->	i saw that code
03:22	<knight->	i think the main thing is, i'm not running QApplication()
03:22	<tharvey>	you 'are' using this within Myth right? so qInitNetworkProtocols is being called? (vs doing it in a test program)
03:22	<knight->	no
03:22	<knight->	but yes, i'm calling qInitNetworkProtocols()
03:23	<knight->	i'm writing in a test program to develop the core code first
03:23	<knight->	then i'll tie into myth
03:23	<knight->	to keep it modular
03:23	<knight->	plus, i dont feel like exporting the DISPLAY yet :)
03:24	<tharvey>	sure, makes sense - I think thor's right about QApplication... has to be an event loop as its an asyn op
03:24	<tharvey>	easy to wrap it in that for a test
03:24	<knight->	how?
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03:26	<tharvey>	check the docs on QApplication... basically just create one on the stack then set main widget I believe
03:26	<knight->	yeah i dont want to do that :)
03:26	<knight->	requires X
03:26	<knight->	:P
03:27	<thor_>	QApplication::QApplication ( int & argc, char ** argv, bool GUIenabled )
03:27	<knight->	ahh
03:27	<knight->	ok FALSE :)
03:27	<thor_>	true
03:27	<tharvey>	ya, can make cmdline pgms with it fine
03:27	<knight->	i mean, GUIenabled FALSE
03:27	<thor_>	(as in you are correct)
03:28	<knight->	ahh
03:28	<knight->	haha
03:28	<thor_>	right, bedtime for bonzo
03:28	<knight->	nice thor thanks
03:28	<thor_>	yup
03:28	<tharvey>	thor, do you know how to include files in a patch that don't show from a diff? (new files)
03:29	<knight->	tharvey, should i extend QApplication?
03:29	<tharvey>	no need to extend it
03:29	<knight->	then create an instance of my class inside that class?
03:29	<tharvey>	put it on the stack, don't 'new' it
03:30	<knight->	just QApplication *app = new QApplication(); app->exec(); myclassstuffhere?
03:30	<tharvey>	put it in your 'main' test program wrapper
03:30	<tharvey>	I vaugely recall having problems with it if you dynamically create it
03:31	<knight->	yeah so just QApplication(blahblah); ?
03:31	<knight->	erm
03:32	<tharvey>	ya, you just need to add like 2 lines of code... QApplication(argc, argv, FALSE); return app.exec()
03:32	<knight->	QApplication app(argc, argv, FALSE); app.exec()
03:32	<knight->	yeah
03:32	<tharvey>	make sure you call app.exec() thats what does your msg loop
03:32	<knight->	before my code in main()?
03:32	<tharvey>	no... exec won't return till you qapp->exit or something like that
03:33	<knight->	gotcha, so call app.exec() after
03:33	<knight->	and pass in app to my class to have it call exit
03:34	<Chutt>	qApp's global
03:35	<knight->	ok
03:35	<knight->	yay it worked :0
03:35	<tharvey>	no... qApp is a global that you can call. Basically: main(int argc, char** argv) { QApplication app(argc, argv, FALSE); MyWidget m(); m.dostuff(); app.setMainWidget(&m); dialog.exec(); }
03:35	<knight->	although, i only called two copy()'s and three finished() signals were called
03:35	<knight->	tharvey, yeah
03:35	<tharvey>	extra for all your troubles
03:35	<tharvey>	hehe
03:35	<knight->	thanks :)
03:36	<knight->	i'm wondering why three finished signals were thrown though
03:36	<tharvey>	look at param to finished... it will explain
03:36	<tharvey>	check state and error code of 'op'
03:36	<knight->	yeah
03:49	<knight->	this is fun
03:50	<knight->	is there any gzip/bzip2 library native to Qt?
03:50	<knight->	dont see anything on a google
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03:55	<knight->	i suppose i could always exec() /bin/gzip :)
03:57	<knight->	I need to find a qt channel :)
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04:04	<linagee>	how does mythtv perform using an NFS share instead it's own local storage?
04:05	<knight->	well
04:05	<knight->	i use NFS and SMB
04:06	<linagee>	knight-: isn't SMB slower than NFS?
04:06	<knight->	no problems.... mythmusic takes a long time to grab id3 tags initially obviously
04:06	<knight->	yes
04:06	<linagee>	knight-: it's just that i can get some large fast drives, but reading the specs, they look a little noisey. lol
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04:06	<linagee>	knight-: i'd much rather stick them in another room. heheh
04:07	<knight->	ofcourse
04:07	<linagee>	knight-: 35dbA idling! lol
04:07	<knight->	hah
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04:07	<linagee>	(but 735mbit/sec media transfer rate. heh)
04:07	<linagee>	knight-: 160gb storage space.
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04:09	<knight->	not very much space really
04:09	<knight->	i get more than that rate using my striping 800gb "raid" 0
04:10	<knight->	although, the pci bus limits it
04:10	<knight->	cant wait to move to SATA to get it off the pci bus
04:10	<knight->	i have a mobo that has onboard sata on it's own pci-x bus
04:10	<knight->	talk about super fast
04:11	<linagee>	knight-: it's not about speed or space for me. it's about lowest $ per gig. ;)
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04:12	<knight->	ahh
04:12	<knight->	how much for the 160gb drives?
04:12	<linagee>	knight-: and right now, you can easily get 160gb drives for like $100. hehehehe
04:12	<linagee>	knight-: on a college student's salary, it's always about the $. lol
04:14	<knight->	yeah
04:14	<knight->	i bought a 250gb drive for $114 after the mailin rebate :)
04:14	<knight->	instore was $170
04:14	<knight->	cant beat that price
04:28	<knight->	so hmm
04:53	<knight->	quiet tonight :)
04:53	<knight->	sleepers and coders
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05:01	<knight->	ungzip.cpp:13: no matching function for call to `QProcess::QProcess(UnGzip* const)'
05:02	<knight->	/usr/qt/3/include/qprocess.h:168: candidates are: QProcess::QProcess(const QProcess&)
05:02	<knight->	bah
05:14	<knight->	ok fixed
05:16	<knight->	i think i'm getting the hang of Qt now
05:16	<knight->	i like it
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05:31	<knight->	hey
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05:35	<knight->	shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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09:15	<killerbun>	anyone for a remote wonder from ati (does it work good with mythtv and linux) ?
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09:30	<b1nary>	hello folks.. is the c-media cmi8738 sound chip total crap?
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10:02	<_rkulagow>	chutt: docs sync please.
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10:10	<pahli_bar>	_rkulagow: the keybindings for mythgallery are incorrect in the docs
10:11	<pahli_bar>	_rkulagow: the README in mythgallery has the new keybindings
10:11	<_rkulagow>	ah, right. you just made some commits that changed them, right?
10:12	<_rkulagow>	i'll point to the readme instead of duplicating.
10:12	<pahli_bar>	_rkulagow: ok
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10:55	<killerbun>	.
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11:10	<Flarnor>	So I'm going to build a MythTV box. It'll be neato!
11:12	<DogBoy>	neato buritto
11:24	<Flarnor>	I wonder if I could make it fit into my old Tivo case.
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14:26	<DJ_Rican>	where do i find /mythtv/configfiles?
14:26	<kvandivo>	updatedb ; locate whateverFileYouAreLookingFor
14:27	<DJ_Rican>	i'm looking for mythfilldatabasecron can't find it anywhere! :(
14:28	<thor_>	http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mythtv/configfiles/
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14:29	<DJ_Rican>	thank you! :)
14:29	<thor_>	yup
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15:41	<servo>	hello
15:44	<hadees>	you get your stuff working?
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15:50	<servo>	for the most part; I got mythtv backend running well; as well as the front end. I just need to figure out where I can find one of those interlacers (to improve the picture) and I should be all set :-)
15:55	<servo>	hmm... All my tv stations are fuzzy... As if it was running PAL instead of NTSC...
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16:02	<hadees>	servo: are you sure you arn't
16:02	<hadees>	servo: are you using an nvidia graphics card?
16:05	<servo>	yes
16:06	<servo>	it's an nvidia card and running ntsc
16:06	<servo>	it worked just find last night...
16:06	<sfr>	what about posting the commit messages in #mythtv? Blake over at #netjuke runs a script to do that automatically.
16:06	<hadees>	what driver are you using with nvidia?
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16:06	<servo>	lemme check
16:07	<hadees>	servo: you want this one
16:07	<hadees>	http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-4363.html
16:07	<hadees>	then you can go to setup and enable all the cool advanced stuff
16:07	<hadees>	the later ones nvidia broke them some how
16:07	<servo>	i know mines realativly new
16:07	<servo>	lsmod doesn't list it though...
16:08	<hadees>	did you add it to your modules file?
16:08	<servo>	nvm it shows it; but not the version
16:08	<hadees>	well how long ago did you install nvidia?
16:08	<hadees>	you problay have the newest one
16:08	<servo>	not to long ago;
16:08	<hadees>	this one is the 3rd newest one
16:08	<servo>	about 1.3 months
16:09	<servo>	ago
16:09	<hadees>	alright then you don't have it
16:09	<hadees>	so go to http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-4363.html
16:09	<hadees>	and get this one
16:09	<servo>	the 1.0-4349 version?
16:09	<hadees>	no the 4363
16:09	<servo>	ok
16:10	<servo>	what's the idae behind this? (I mean what does it do)
16:10	<hadees>	you know in setup
16:10	<hadees>	on the frontend
16:10	<servo>	yea
16:10	<hadees>	not the setup program
16:10	<servo>	yea i know what your taking about
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16:10	<hadees>	there are all these things that you can enable about the output
16:11	<hadees>	they arn't enabled by default but some of them need that nvidia version to work
16:11	<servo>	ok ill check it out
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16:14	<pcjabber>	Anyone here?
16:14	<servo>	of course
16:14	<pcjabber>	=)
16:14	<Niqo>	servo: it's named jitter correction and experimental av sync
16:14	<pcjabber>	How, again, do I run MythFrontend or backend (or anything, for that matter), to get all the STDOUT output to a logfile
16:14	<pcjabber>	I know you can do command > logfile
16:15	<pcjabber>	but it doesnt get all the STDOUT
16:15	<sfr>	add 2>&1
16:15	<Chutt>	that will indeed get all of stdout.
16:15	<thor_>	mythbackend > logfile.log 2>&1
16:15	<thor_>	heh
16:15	<Chutt>	it will not get stderr, of course
16:15	<pcjabber>	thanks =)
16:16	<servo>	Nigo: where are these settings?
16:19	<pcjabber>	I am having a problem with DirectFB
16:20	<pcjabber>	even though I am not using it
16:21	<pcjabber>	my frontend log is posted here: http://paste.msunix.org/index.php?view=4647
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16:22	<Chutt>	then don't build mythtv with directfb support
16:22	<pcjabber>	...and my backend log is here: http://paste.msunix.org/index.php?view=4648
16:22	<pcjabber>	I'm not
16:22	<Chutt>	sure looks like you are
16:22	<pcjabber>	hmm
16:23	<pcjabber>	Well, if I am, how do I use DirectFB, so the errors will stop?
16:23	<pcjabber>	or should i recompile from scratch without DirectFB and use XV?
16:23	<Chutt>	yes.
16:23	<pcjabber>	k thanks
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16:24	<pcjabber>	hmm strange -- directFB is actually installed
16:24	<pcjabber>	no clue what it is though...
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16:35	<knight->	heh
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16:50	<T-Squared>	anyone do any dvd burning from pvr250/350 files?:
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17:10	<pcjabber>	sorry, not me
17:10	<pcjabber>	I will start in the future =)
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17:39	<pcjabber>	Thanks chutt
17:40	<pcjabber>	i recompiled and it works fine
17:40	<pcjabber>	i must have just forgot to comment DirectFB (or forgot to check it...or something =)
17:40	<pcjabber>	thanks =)
17:41	<kvandivo>	thou shalt not doubt the word of thy master
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17:51	<hadees>	what is the key for switching between tuners
17:52	<pahli_bar>	c
17:53	<kvandivo>	mythweb has your current keybindings, btw
17:54	<pahli_bar>	or the keys.txt
17:57	<knight->	pahli_bar, thanks for the help last night
17:58	<hadees>	i tried c, it kept bring up the first tuner
17:58	<knight->	i'm really getting a hang of Qt now
17:58	<pahli_bar>	knight-: np
18:00	<sfr>	hadees: you can't. mythtv will always pick the first (in the order you defined them) available one.
18:01	<hadees>	sfr so i can't view the input from the other tv tuner cards?
18:01	<hadees>	i just wanted to make sure they worked
18:02	<pcjabber>	make the first tuner busy (for instance, by setting a recording on a show)
18:02	<pcjabber>	then do Live TV, etc
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18:03	<pcjabber>	anyone got a TiVo 34-button remote working with Myth?
18:04	<pcjabber>	I have tried using the one from m0j0 at foofus.net
18:04	<pcjabber>	# contributed by m0j0 at foofus dot net
18:04	<pcjabber>	and it isnt working
18:04	<lmatter>	hadees, you could always enable PIP, swap tuners, then disable pip
18:04	<pcjabber>	true, true
18:04	<pcjabber>	=)
18:04	<sfr>	hadees: only if the first one is busy, as pcjabber said. tell us wether it's working for you. i'm having problems using the 2nd tuner.
18:05	<knight->	curious, can a mythfrontend have local avi's and music, while still using a mythbackend? or better yet, can a mythfrontend talk to multiple backends?
18:05	<pcjabber>	yes and no
18:05	<pcjabber>	respectively
18:05	<sfr>	lmatter: myth is 'cheating'. it's only swapping the channels but not the tuners.
18:05	<pcjabber>	the second one is AFAIK
18:05	<pcjabber>	I havent read the dev/commits list lately, so I am really not sure if CVS has that ability
18:05	<pcjabber>	but im positive on the first one =)
18:06	<lmatter>	sfr, drat. Anyway, if you get PIP working then you know both tuners work.
18:06	<knight->	that a frontend can have avis and music too?
18:06	<pcjabber>	yep
18:06	<knight->	how is that configured right?
18:06	<pahli_bar>	knight-: video/music/images have to local to frontend
18:06	<pcjabber>	exactly my words =)
18:06	<pcjabber>	er...not exactly
18:07	<knight->	ok
18:07	<knight->	great
18:07	<pcjabber>	but exactly what i was going to say =) thanks for saving me some typing, pahli_bar =)
18:07	<pcjabber>	"anyone got a TiVo 34-button remote working with Myth? " --whoops -- meant LIRC to work with myth =)
18:07	<pcjabber>	I can create my own .lircrc
18:08	<pcjabber>	I just need a lircd.conf to go with it =)
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18:08	<kvandivo>	video/music/images have to be accessible directly from the frontend... i have mine on the backend, but nfs mounted on the frontend
18:08	<pahli_bar>	pcjabber: use irrecord to generate one
18:08	<pcjabber>	or talk to someone who has used irrecord
18:08	<pcjabber>	is it just as simple as irrecord <file> ?
18:09	<pcjabber>	brb
18:09	*	pcjabber is away: afk
18:10	<knight->	but this is my concern... what about the metadata? i have a frontend and backend here in my apartment, and my neighbor (who i have a gigabit line connecting our two apartments) has a frontend wants his own music/video
18:10	<knight->	we dont want to merge our video and music
18:11	<pahli_bar>	knight-: metadata is stored per host basis
18:11	<knight->	oh excellent
18:12	<knight->	does mythweb see both sets of metadata then?
18:12	<pahli_bar>	yes
18:12	<knight->	ok
18:13	<sfr>	pahli_bar: not for music metadata at least, but that should be simple to add.
18:14	<pahli_bar>	hmm. i don't have two frontends. but i remember seeing host selection in mythweb.
18:14	<pahli_bar>	so i assumed it will have separate music db metadata showing
18:17	<servo>	hello
18:17	<sfr>	olleh
18:18	<kvandivo>	lehol
18:18	<servo>	racecar.... racecar
18:18	<thor_>	a man a plan a canal panama !
18:19	<pahli_bar>	heh. good one
18:19	<kvandivo>	wasn't this a /. article a week or back?
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18:21	<pcjabber>	is it just as simple as irrecord <file> ?
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18:21	<kvandivo>	whew.. we were beginning to get worried, pc
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18:22	<pcjabber>	heh
18:22	<pcjabber>	why is that?
18:22	<pahli_bar>	pcjabber: RTFM
18:22	<pcjabber>	sorry =)
18:22	*	pahli_bar loves self when he does that
18:22	*	kvandivo pats pahli_bar on the head.
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18:24	<thor_>	dear god ... anybody understand libavformat
18:25	<pcjabber>	heh yikes
18:25	<pcjabber>	sorry thor, not me
18:25	<pcjabber>	Now hold down button "TIVO".
18:25	<pcjabber>	Something went wrong. Please try again. (9 retries left)
18:26	<pcjabber>	any suggestions?
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18:26	<pahli_bar>	isn't it a RC5 remote. they can be a pain to setup with lirc
18:26	<pahli_bar>	try someother button first
18:27	<pcjabber>	i dont think it is
18:27	<pcjabber>	but ok
18:27	<pcjabber>	it said "Signals are pulse encoded.
18:27	<pcjabber>	"
18:29	<pcjabber>	i've tried three different start buttons, and they dont work
18:29	<pcjabber>	same error
18:29	<pcjabber>	4 diff start buttons, if you count the TIVO logo
18:30	<pahli_bar>	what version of lirc. maybe its time to bug the lirc developers.
18:30	<pcjabber>	.6.6
18:30	<pcjabber>	0.6.6
18:31	<pahli_bar>	and what receiver
18:31	<pcjabber>	one from zapway.de
18:31	<pcjabber>	its a serial reciever
18:31	<pcjabber>	made for LIRC/WinLIRC
18:31	<pahli_bar>	pcjabber: do other remotes work?
18:32	<pcjabber>	not sure
18:32	<pcjabber>	let me check
18:32	<pahli_bar>	pcjabber: serial receiver,eh. does mode2 or xmode2 work
18:33	<pcjabber>	on my sony DVD remote:
18:33	<pcjabber>	Now hold down button "1".
18:33	<pcjabber>	Please enter the name for the next button (press <ENTER> to finish recording)
18:33	<pcjabber>	pulse-encoded too
18:33	<pcjabber>	let me try
18:33	<pcjabber>	just a sec
18:34	<pcjabber>	i wont flood the channel with output
18:34	<pcjabber>	but yes, i get some things like this:
18:34	<pcjabber>	pulse 586
18:34	<pcjabber>	space 95979
18:34	<pcjabber>	pulse 9039
18:34	<pcjabber>	space 2211
18:34	<pcjabber>	pulse 733
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18:34	<sfr>	omg pcjabber is in danger, sending SOS
18:35	<pcjabber>	huh?
18:35	<pahli_bar>	pcjabber: when irrecord tells you to press different keys, you _really_ should press different keys. not repeat keys
18:35	<pcjabber>	i am
18:35	<pahli_bar>	and also no more that 10 dots per button
18:36	<pcjabber>	i just press the buttons, and hold them like it says
18:36	<sfr>	pcjabber: nm, looked like beep,beeep,beep to me ;) time to go to bed i guess
18:36	<pahli_bar>	pcjabber: keep trying. if it still doesn't work, try the cvs lirc and/or contact lirc developers
18:36	<pcjabber>	and i have to repeat the sequence, because it requires 2x80 (2 rows at 80col)
18:37	<pcjabber>	so i am hitting TIVO thru ENTER and then repeating all the buttons
18:37	<pcjabber>	~40 total
18:37	<pcjabber>	so i have to hit them 2-3 times, IIRC
18:37	<pahli_bar>	http://www.foofus.net/m0j0/mythtv/TIVO34-lircd.conf
18:38	<pcjabber>	tried that
18:38	<pcjabber>	then restarted LIRCD
18:38	<pcjabber>	and ran IRW
18:38	<pcjabber>	and started hitting buttons
18:38	<pcjabber>	got no output
18:38	<lmatter>	pcjabber, you might try raw mode (irrecord -f I believe).
18:39	<pcjabber>	k thanks
18:39	<pahli_bar>	http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/tivo/TIVO
18:39	<pcjabber>	thats not the 34-button
18:39	<pcjabber>	thanks though =)
18:41	<pcjabber>	brb
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18:54	<hadees>	why does mythgallery need opengl support?
18:55	<pcjabber>	well, the raw mode worked at first
18:55	<pcjabber>	but IRW didnt recognize my codes
18:55	<pcjabber>	and the regular worked properly now (so it seemed)
18:55	<pcjabber>	then it started with its "something went wrong" crap again
18:56	<pahli_bar>	hadees: it doesn't. its upto you to decide if you want opengl slideshows
18:56	<pcjabber>	for slideshows, if you want to add that option, hadees
18:56	<pcjabber>	ahh
18:56	<pcjabber>	beat again =)
18:56	<hadees>	what is the diffrence with opengl slideshows?
18:56	<hadees>	just look nicer?
18:57	<pcjabber>	not sure on that one sorry
18:57	<pahli_bar>	hadees: heh. matter of personal opinion there
18:57	<hadees>	that was my real question, whats the point
18:57	<pahli_bar>	hadees: why don't you try it first?
18:58	<pahli_bar>	its lik