| --- | Log | opened Fri Jan 16 00:00:21 2004 |
| 00:09 | cbreen | is now known as cbreen-away |
| 00:19 | * | DJ_Rican is back... |
| 00:22 | warlord-afk | is now known as warlord |
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| 00:26 | <DJ_Rican> | where do the shared libraries go for mythtv? |
| 00:32 | <ChamPro> | sleep time |
| 00:32 | <ChamPro> | see y'all tomorrow |
| 00:33 | <ChamPro> | I got through 33 of the 38 packages needed for mythtv |
| 00:33 | <ChamPro> | it's up to perl-tk |
| 00:33 | <ChamPro> | funky chicken |
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| 00:35 | <GreyFoxx> | What do you need perl-tk for ? |
| 00:35 | <DJ_Rican> | can someone do a locate liblirc_client.so.0 and tell me where it is? |
| 00:35 | <GreyFoxx> | oops, he's gone |
| 00:35 | <GreyFoxx> | heh |
| 00:35 | <DJ_Rican> | :) |
| 00:37 | <DJ_Rican> | Grey: can you locate liblirc_client.so.0 and tell me where it is? |
| 00:37 | <GreyFoxx> | Not on my box, I don't use LIRC with my remote, sorry |
| 00:37 | <DJ_Rican> | mythtv installs it not lirc |
| 00:37 | <GreyFoxx> | ahhh, ok |
| 00:38 | <DJ_Rican> | :) |
| 00:38 | <DJ_Rican> | it's a dependency.. |
| 00:38 | <GreyFoxx> | Only if you enable lirc support in settings.pro :) |
| 00:38 | <GreyFoxx> | which I didn't |
| 00:38 | <GreyFoxx> | It's commented out by default |
| 00:38 | <DJ_Rican> | hmm... i don't think i did... :( |
| 00:38 | <DJ_Rican> | ok |
| 00:39 | <GreyFoxx> | My system seems my remote as a USB keyboard and mouse |
| 00:39 | <GreyFoxx> | I didn't want to bother with LIRC |
| 00:39 | <DJ_Rican> | ok, thx... i deleted that file and now mythbackend needs it... :( |
| 00:39 | <DJ_Rican> | i have the file... i just don't know where it goes... |
| 00:39 | <GreyFoxx> | did you compile from source? Just go do another make install ? |
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| 00:40 | <DJ_Rican> | I compiled LIRC from CVS but it said to delete certain files first.... |
| 00:40 | <DJ_Rican> | that was one of the files... |
| 00:41 | <DJ_Rican> | i installed mythtv from rpms... |
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| 00:42 | <GreyFoxx> | Ahh, I've only ever done it via source. I would have no idea what any of the rpms might provide |
| 00:42 | <DJ_Rican> | i had everything working except remote... remote works now but mythbackend is asking for that file |
| 00:42 | <GreyFoxx> | But that lib is part of LIRC, not myth |
| 00:43 | <Netslayer> | what would cause lirc to just stop working or irxevent, sometimes it just stops and comes back in about 30 seconds..it's bizare |
| 00:43 | <GreyFoxx> | That file is part of lirc, not myth |
| 00:44 | <DJ_Rican> | Grey: ok... it's in /usr/local/lib but mythbackend still complains about it |
| 00:44 | <GreyFoxx> | is /usr/local/lib in your /etc/ld.so.conf ? |
| 00:45 | <DJ_Rican> | hmm... let me check |
| 00:45 | <DJ_Rican> | yes |
| 00:45 | <GreyFoxx> | ok, type ldconfig |
| 00:45 | <GreyFoxx> | and then run ldconfig -v | grep liblirc |
| 00:46 | <GreyFoxx> | see if it finds it |
| 00:46 | <DJ_Rican> | it found it |
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| 00:47 | <GreyFoxx> | Then Myth should find it, what exactly is it saying ? |
| 00:47 | <DJ_nixbox> | [root@media .libs][root@media .libs]# ldconfig -v | grep liblirc |
| 00:47 | <DJ_nixbox> | liblirc_client.so.0 -> liblirc_client.so.0.0.0 |
| 00:47 | <DJ_Rican> | ohh it started after ldconfig... :) |
| 00:47 | <GreyFoxx> | :) |
| 00:47 | <DJ_Rican> | thx dude |
| 00:48 | <GreyFoxx> | np, always a good habit to rerun ldconfig if you move around libraries |
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| 00:48 | <DJ_Rican> | ahh... :) i just finished installing lirc and didn't do that... :) |
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| 00:50 | <DJ_Rican> | ok... :( remote works outside myth but not in myth... back to the old drwing board... |
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| 00:59 | <Chutt> | warlord, you here? |
| 01:01 | <tmk> | chutt: he went to bed |
| 01:01 | <tmk> | or so he claimed |
| 01:01 | <tmk> | chutt: did you see my question earlier |
| 01:03 | <Chutt> | no |
| 01:03 | <Chutt> | define 'bug' =) |
| 01:04 | <thor_> | something someone does who can't keep their panties on ? |
| 01:04 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 01:04 | <Chutt> | tmk, are there any errors in the frontend/backend logs? |
| 01:05 | <Netslayer> | great, heh what did i do: mythfrontend: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 01:05 | <Chutt> | tmk, as far as i'm aware, current cvs works fine on that screen |
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| 01:07 | <Netslayer> | wow |
| 01:07 | <Netslayer> | chris@server qt $ cd 3 |
| 01:07 | <Netslayer> | chris@server 3 $ ls |
| 01:07 | <Netslayer> | ls: reading directory .: Input/output error |
| 01:07 | <Netslayer> | that's not good |
| 01:08 | <Netslayer> | guess i'll try rebooting |
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| 01:16 | <Chutt> | hrmm |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | it's not a bug with it ending a recording in the preview screen |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | that seems to work fine |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | wonder how that's getting an invalid pointer |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | i really need to keep rankings of 'most annoying poster to mythtv-*' |
| 01:20 | <DJ_Rican> | if i installed myth using an rpm, is there a way to enable native lirc support? |
| 01:21 | <Chutt> | doubt it |
| 01:21 | <DJ_Rican> | unless the rpm already had it enabled? |
| 01:21 | <Chutt> | right |
| 01:22 | <DJ_Rican> | how can i check? |
| 01:22 | <Chutt> | if stuff's linked against the lirc client library |
| 01:22 | <DJ_Rican> | yes it is... |
| 01:22 | <thor_> | stan ! |
| 01:23 | <DJ_Rican> | ok... so i do have native lirc support... cool |
| 01:23 | <Chutt> | yeah, stan's definitely up there |
| 01:24 | <thor_> | and the guy who went through 5 e-mail addresses .. always asking the same thing ... started with an M I think |
| 01:24 | <Chutt> | oh yeah |
| 01:24 | <Chutt> | he thought his stuff wasn't going through |
| 01:24 | <thor_> | what the hell was he asking all those times .... |
| 01:25 | <Chutt> | no idea =) |
| 01:25 | <thor_> | heh |
| 01:35 | <DJ_Rican> | hmm... i know it's not related but...would anyone know why irw works but not irxevent or irexec? |
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| 01:55 | <tmk> | chutt: i didn't load backend with -v all |
| 01:55 | <tmk> | frontend just said something about a query of some kindd |
| 01:56 | <Chutt> | wouldn't matter for error messages |
| 01:56 | <Chutt> | oh? |
| 01:56 | <Chutt> | what'd it say? =) |
| 01:56 | <tmk> | lemme look |
| 01:56 | <ChaosExiguum> | DJ_Rican, probably a config issue with your lircrc |
| 01:57 | <tmk> | QUERY_GETALLPENDING |
| 01:57 | <Chutt> | was that all? |
| 01:58 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 01:58 | <tmk> | it knows there are recordings scheduled |
| 01:58 | <tmk> | but they don''t show up |
| 01:58 | <Chutt> | dunno |
| 01:59 | <Chutt> | not a version mismatch between frontend and backend? |
| 01:59 | <tmk> | shouldn't be |
| 01:59 | <tmk> | i'll check |
| 02:00 | <tmk> | nope, same rev |
| 02:01 | <tmk> | what's the name of the table it pulls that from |
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| 02:13 | <louiscipher> | can anyone help me with my WinTV-PVR250 under linux? |
| 02:14 | <Netslayer> | that new windows program from WD works great. he posted the link on the user list, I can now run it, click a recording and it launches apps for it :-) + shows the png |
| 02:14 | <tmk> | lous: see #ivtv-dev |
| 02:15 | <thor_> | mmmmm brownies |
| 02:15 | <louiscipher> | tmk: thanks |
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| 02:15 | <ShockValue> | wooo hoo |
| 02:16 | <ShockValue> | just ordered a pvr250 and a g4-mx400 with DVI out |
| 02:17 | <tmk> | chutt: if i load mythbackend, it prints the scheduled recordings out just fine |
| 02:17 | <tmk> | hmm |
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| 02:19 | <tmk> | and now it works! whatever |
| 02:20 | <FryGuy> | chutt: do you remember a while back I had problems with the video device not opening which caused an infinite, and then i wrote a patch to fix it but you said it was too much of a hack? well can you look at my newer version of the patch? it's at http://burntpopcorn.net/deleteme/mythupdate.diff |
| 02:22 | <Chutt> | that looks better |
| 02:22 | <Chutt> | mind just sending it to the -dev list with patch somewhere in the subject? |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | i'll be doing patches tomorrow |
| 02:23 | <FryGuy> | i don't think i'm on the dev list |
| 02:23 | <FryGuy> | but ok |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | or just send it to me, then |
| 02:23 | <FryGuy> | attached or copy/paste? |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | attached |
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| 02:38 | <FryGuy> | ok sent it to the list. thanks in advance |
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| 03:12 | <Netslayer> | heh what happened on the list err, i replied to "Re:MythHelper: A Windows application to aid in transcoding recordings" and it ended up under "Questions about MythMusic & MythVideo Future Development " |
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| 04:02 | <pigeon> | hmm hi all, perhaps a dumb question. mythtv "must" use qt? |
| 04:02 | <sfr_> | yes. that or qt embedded. |
| 04:03 | <pigeon> | alright, thanks. |
| 04:03 | <pigeon> | I assume that's a must for mythtv frontend only? |
| 04:03 | <pigeon> | is that possible to have mythtv with just the web interface? |
| 04:04 | <thor_> | nope, you got QString, QThread, etc., etc. all over the backend |
| 04:04 | <pigeon> | ah |
| 04:04 | <pigeon> | ok fair enough |
| 04:05 | <thor_> | you could pull it all out (c_string, pthread, etc.), but I can't imagine why you'd want to ? |
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| 04:36 | <pigeon> | xmltv is the epg stuff right? can I run mythtv without bothering it? |
| 04:37 | <pigeon> | since xmltv doesn't seem to support my country yet. |
| 04:49 | <Netslayer> | it'll run but it will not be able to tune anything really..cause there wouldn't be any channels setup |
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| 04:54 | <pigeon> | hmm, but then while configuring video device, it lets me pick a frequency table. |
| 04:54 | <pigeon> | "capture card" i mean in fact. |
| 04:55 | <pigeon> | ops |
| 04:55 | <pigeon> | i'm getting old |
| 04:55 | <pigeon> | i mean in the "general" in mythtv-setup |
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| 05:14 | <hardwired> | you can use it without xmltv |
| 05:14 | <hardwired> | but you need a way of storing channels/frequencies |
| 05:15 | <pigeon> | hmm how do i tell mythtv which input source to record audio? |
| 05:15 | <pigeon> | I can pick a dsp device, but not which input. |
| 05:16 | <hardwired> | dunno |
| 05:18 | <pigeon> | ah |
| 05:18 | <pigeon> | fixed audio |
| 05:29 | <pigeon> | so i can't just get mythtv to use a xawtv-like frequency table? |
| 05:30 | <hardwired> | of course, it's an mythfilldatabase option |
| 05:30 | <hardwired> | you can give it an zawtvrc file as input |
| 05:30 | <pigeon> | ah ok thanks. |
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| 05:56 | <HenkPoley> | The docs for setting up de initial database say "cd /database" where was that to begin with? |
| 05:56 | <HenkPoley> | errr "cd database/" (slash at other end) |
| 05:57 | <hardwired> | dunno, hold on a sec |
| 05:58 | <hardwired> | in what section is that? |
| 05:58 | <HenkPoley> | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html |
| 05:59 | <HenkPoley> | I guess it should be something like {/mnt/store | or whatever)}/database ? |
| 06:00 | <pigeon> | hmm alright, mythfilldatabase doesn't seem to work. |
| 06:01 | <HenkPoley> | The part before it (sec. 5) is even non-consistent, in the sense that different distro sections end up in root or non-root (so it's unpecified) |
| 06:03 | <hardwired> | HenkPoley: looks like it depends on your distro |
| 06:03 | <hardwired> | updatedb and then locate mc.sql :) |
| 06:04 | <pigeon> | xawtvrc might not contain freq info, and mythfilldatabase doesn't know about the freqtable xawtvrc is referring to, it seems. |
| 06:05 | <hardwired> | oh? what table is it? |
| 06:06 | <pigeon> | hmm, does mythfilldatabase assume xawtvrc is going to contain the freq of channels? |
| 06:07 | <pigeon> | mythfilldatabase seems to have imported channels, but not the freq for the channels. |
| 06:07 | <hardwired> | that's ok |
| 06:07 | <HenkPoley> | but err, where does mythtv (or better mysql) store it's tables, is that specified in the mc.sql file? |
| 06:08 | <pigeon> | hmm |
| 06:08 | <pigeon> | now i can't change channel in mythtv |
| 06:08 | <hardwired> | the general frequency table such as 'pal-europe-west' together with the channel name, such as 'E5' defines the frequency |
| 06:08 | <pigeon> | i'm using pal-australia btw. |
| 06:08 | <hardwired> | HenkPoley: db mythconverg |
| 06:09 | <HenkPoley> | eh? |
| 06:09 | <pigeon> | i've checked the channel table, channels are imported. |
| 06:09 | <HenkPoley> | btw, I'm first figureing out what and how I need to set the mysql password |
| 06:10 | <HenkPoley> | or can you import this mc.sql file without setting it |
| 06:10 | <hardwired> | pigeon: pal-australia + channel 53 means frequency 702.250 |
| 06:10 | <hardwired> | fotr example |
| 06:10 | <hardwired> | for |
| 06:10 | <pigeon> | but when i change channel, either nothing happens (by typing numbers), or I get 'QTime::fromString: Parameter out of range.' (from the console) |
| 06:10 | <hardwired> | myth computes the frequency from table name+channel |
| 06:10 | <pigeon> | hmm |
| 06:10 | <hardwired> | pigeon: then the channel database is hosed. look at it with mysql |
| 06:11 | <pigeon> | they look ok in the database. |
| 06:11 | <pigeon> | the channel table, i have 6 entries, imported by mythfilldatabase i think |
| 06:12 | <pigeon> | the time shifting in mythtv is very well done, btw. |
| 06:12 | <hardwired> | didn't have a chance to look at it yet, i am trying to bring my channel frequencies into myth :) |
| 06:13 | <pigeon> | now only if i can change the channel ;) |
| 06:25 | <pigeon> | another weird things is i don't seem to be able to run mytv as a normal user |
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| 07:12 | <HenkPoley> | Just pokeing :: fact 1, though mythtv know a couple of european frequency tables they are pretty useless. fact 2, european cable channels are given in (M)Hz. Then why not add these as an "HZxxx.xxx" string to the database? |
| 07:13 | <HenkPoley> | I mean, if someone wrote a patch, would this be a good solution? (mythtv must convert the channel freqeuncy table to MHz anyways |
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| 08:07 | <overridex> | anybody know of a howto for making an ir blaster for use with lirc? :) |
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| 09:28 | <chiphead_> | overridex, lirc.org has schematics |
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| 09:36 | <HenkPoley> | hmm, I've ran mythfilldatabase, isn't that program supposed to read XMLTV data? |
| 09:36 | <HenkPoley> | Or do you need something extra in europe? |
| 09:36 | <HenkPoley> | netherlands.. |
| 09:38 | <overridex> | chiphead_: yeah i meant more than schematics... more like instructions for someone who doesn't know what they're doing completely ;) |
| 09:38 | <chiphead_> | have you looked at the pages. its has everything you need |
| 09:39 | <StuartL> | overridex: If you're not happy with soldering and basic electronic circuits you should probably try to find someone who is or buy a ready made unit. |
| 09:44 | <HenkPoley> | hm tv_grab_nl exits with "getting list of channels: could not fetch http://www.tvgids.nl, aborting" :-/ |
| 09:45 | <chiphead_> | MAYBE THE SITE IS DOWN. CHECK WITH THE XMLTV LISTS |
| 09:45 | <chiphead_> | sry caps |
| 09:46 | <HenkPoley> | err, I can reach the site with lynx |
| 09:46 | <HenkPoley> | and it grabs the html pages, so... |
| 09:47 | <HenkPoley> | but off coarse I'll look there |
| 09:49 | <chiphead_> | maybe the format has changed |
| 09:50 | <hardwired> | while we are at this topic. what does xmltv do? fetch only program info or also channel frequencies? |
| 09:51 | <krash314> | StuartL: do you have recommendations for a ready-made ir transmitter that will work with dish network boxes? |
| 09:51 | <HenkPoley> | hardwired: depends on your place on the globe, US = plus freq, other, without |
| 09:52 | <hardwired> | HenkPoley: ah ok, thx |
| 09:52 | <HenkPoley> | MythTV expect it more or less to be within XMLTV |
| 09:52 | <krash314> | anyone, recommendations for ir transmitter that works with dish network boxes |
| 09:52 | <HenkPoley> | Isaac being US citizen.. |
| 09:52 | <overridex> | StuartL: i bought a ready-made unit, but the driver it uses with lirc doens't let me change the frequency, and i need to for it to work with my cable box |
| 09:54 | <HenkPoley> | chiphead_: where can I find the xmltv mailinglist archives? all links on the xmltv site lead to dead sourceforge adresses |
| 09:57 | <StuartL> | krash314: In short no, I made my own from the LIRC pages :) |
| 09:58 | <StuartL> | overridex: Are you able to modify the driver code or find someone else who has? |
| 09:58 | <krash314> | StuartL: want to make me one and send it to me. equipment is usually better off if i stay away from it with a soldering iron :) |
| 09:59 | <overridex> | StuartL: yeah, i tried just changing the define and it didn't work, but reading some mailing list archives of lirc they were all just telling the guy he needed to use the lirc-serial module, which meant not using his prebuilt ir blaster |
| 09:59 | <chiphead_> | HenkPoley, looks like 0.5.27 made changes to nl |
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| 10:01 | <HenkPoley> | I seen that |
| 10:01 | <HenkPoley> | but it's not in portage :-/ |
| 10:01 | <HenkPoley> | dislike that |
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| 10:05 | <hardwired> | haha |
| 10:05 | <hardwired> | gentoo-spoilage |
| 10:06 | <HenkPoley> | yeah |
| 10:06 | <HenkPoley> | 'always up to date' was the slogan, heh? ;-) |
| 10:07 | <StuartL> | krash314: Haven't really got the time atm. Haven't turned on any of my home PCs since Tuesday. |
| 10:07 | <StuartL> | krash314: Too many social commitments :) |
| 10:07 | <hardwired> | i'm off, laters |
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| 10:07 | <HenkPoley> | hmm, if I compile all of it myself, won't emerge then mown when I 'emerge xmltv' lateron... |
| 10:08 | <overridex> | HenkPoley: just copy the old version's ebuild to a new filename with the new version number in it, then run ebuild filename digest , and then emerge it.... shouldn't have to even change anything in the ebuild file itself, just the filename |
| 10:13 | <HenkPoley> | eh? afaik it grabs the source from another 'gentoo source distribution' site |
| 10:13 | <HenkPoley> | so I don't think XMLTV will be there, but... who knows |
| 10:13 | <HenkPoley> | ..new version of XMLTV... |
| 10:15 | <HenkPoley> | Okay, just read the ebuild, and it seems like it grabs from sf.net |
| 10:16 | <HenkPoley> | Wha do I need to do? "cd /usr/portage/media-tv/xmltv/" "cp xmltv-0.5.25.ebuild xmltv-0.5.27.ebuild" ??? |
| 10:18 | <DJ_Rican> | why does 1/2 hr of tv take up 1gb of hd space? and how can i change that? |
| 10:18 | <krash314> | StuartL: I was only kidding. Guess too many social commitments is better than too many work commitments :) |
| 10:22 | <HenkPoley> | Hack somewhat works, though it's now waiting for http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/distfiles/XML-Parser-2.34.tar.gz |
| 10:23 | <HenkPoley> | Whow, takes some time to timeout... |
| 10:24 | <HenkPoley> | :-/ Connecting to gentoo.oregonstate.edu[128.193.0.3]:80... failed: Connection timed out. Retrying. |
| 10:24 | <HenkPoley> | now works, yay |
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| 10:27 | <HenkPoley> | building XMLTV failed, it needs a newer version of XMLwiter :: XML::Writer-0.4.1 is required, but 0.4 is installed |
| 10:27 | <HenkPoley> | Somebody help? overridex? |
| 10:28 | <Chiphead> | 0.4 != 0.4.1 |
| 10:28 | <HenkPoley> | duh, and? (sorry) |
| 10:29 | <Chiphead> | read your own statement |
| 10:29 | <Chiphead> | building XMLTV failed, it needs a newer version of XMLwiter :: XML::Writer-0.4.1 is required, but 0.4 is installed |
| 10:29 | <HenkPoley> | I'll try getting 0.4.1 okay :-) |
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| 10:33 | <HenkPoley> | Just checking, should I had added the -u flag to emerge, would it then have grabbed the latest XML-writer automagicaly? |
| 10:42 | <overridex> | HenkPoley: should of, yep |
| 10:43 | <DJ_Rican> | how can i tell if my video is being transcoded after recording? |
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| 10:45 | <HenkPoley> | And probably you need to give your channels in mythtv the same name as your grabber gives you (after you configured them) |
| 10:49 | <HenkPoley> | ..hehe, that was a question... forgot a '?' |
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| 10:51 | <kvandivo> | the Alter-Chutt has arrived |
| 10:52 | <Chiphead> | its an alian body snatcher |
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| 11:07 | <Chutt2> | someone needs to go kick Brad Allen in the head. |
| 11:07 | <kvandivo> | a piece of duct tape over the mouth might work.. |
| 11:08 | <Chutt2> | that'd leave his fingers still able to type really long annoying emails |
| 11:08 | <Chutt2> | Thank you for all your work, everyone! Now bad angry news: |
| 11:08 | <Chutt2> | CVS IVTV right now is the most unstable I've ever used! |
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| 11:09 | <Chutt2> | followed by 240 more lines of crap. |
| 11:09 | Chutt2 | is now known as Chutt |
| 11:09 | warlord-afk | is now known as warlord |
| 11:10 | <warlord> | Chutt: yea, it is... I reverted back to 0.1.9 |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | it's CVS |
| 11:10 | <warlord> | (plus a couple packages) |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | kevin even said it's unstable |
| 11:10 | <warlord> | yep.. |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | i'll have that end of file preview fix in CVS shortly |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | though i can't reproduce that at all |
| 11:10 | <warlord> | oh, cool. thanks. :) |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | i've had a 20 second recording looping for the past 15 minutes |
| 11:11 | <Chutt> | but i see how it could do bad things |
| 11:11 | <warlord> | I didn't know it was supposed to loop.. It's always just ended for me. |
| 11:11 | <warlord> | Before I set up the -350 it just stopped at the end. |
| 11:11 | <Chutt> | well |
| 11:11 | <Chutt> | just ending is the problem |
| 11:11 | <warlord> | Ahh |
| 11:11 | <Chutt> | it's cmeyer's new code that makes it loop |
| 11:12 | <warlord> | Ok. |
| 11:13 | <warlord> | I wonder if the Athlon MMX implementation is different from Intel's? |
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| 11:13 | <Chutt> | i've got an athlon |
| 11:13 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, hey, you here? |
| 11:14 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: hi |
| 11:15 | <Chutt> | i finally got around to updating mythgallery on my tv-out machine last night |
| 11:15 | * | pahli_bar crosses his fingers |
| 11:15 | <Chutt> | had to increase the fonts a little to make things more readable from a distance |
| 11:15 | <Chutt> | want a diff of the ui.xml changes? |
| 11:15 | <pahli_bar> | no. go ahead and commit it |
| 11:16 | <Chutt> | had to move some other things slightly, as well, to accomdate the new sizes |
| 11:16 | <pahli_bar> | in the code? |
| 11:16 | <Chutt> | makes the thumbnail area a tiny bit smaller |
| 11:16 | <Chutt> | no, no, just in ui.xml |
| 11:17 | <pahli_bar> | hmm. i'm curious. the thumbnail size is set by the size of the icons |
| 11:18 | <Chutt> | the blackhole area |
| 11:18 | <Chutt> | was what changed |
| 11:18 | <pahli_bar> | ah. |
| 11:18 | <Chutt> | oh, and i noticed it crashes if the images directory is set to something invalid =) |
| 11:19 | <pahli_bar> | heh. i will add a fix for that. |
| 11:19 | <Chutt> | is your thumbnail work going to add images for directories that just hold other directories? |
| 11:19 | <Chutt> | that's the only other thing I noticed |
| 11:20 | <warlord> | Chutt: my myth did something interesting last night. It was set up to record a few programs back to back, but appararantly the program times were overlapping. The first program was cut short, and the second program is broken into two sections (the first section ends when the first program should have ended). |
| 11:20 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: couple of things.. go deeper into dirs searching for images. and thumbnail on demand (but still using threading) |
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| 11:20 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 11:20 | <Chutt> | sounds good =) |
| 11:20 | <pahli_bar> | should be done by this weekend. |
| 11:21 | <Chutt> | i'll check mythnews for font sizes sometime as well |
| 11:21 | <Chutt> | warlord, that's very odd |
| 11:21 | <warlord> | Chutt: yea, I know.. let me see if there are any log messages from that time period. |
| 11:21 | <pahli_bar> | that will be nice. i will install stuff on my box and check it out on tv as well |
| 11:21 | <pmowry> | Hey, the crashing is a feature, reminds me to restore my smb mounts. |
| 11:22 | <pahli_bar> | pmowry: :) |
| 11:22 | <pahli_bar> | pmowry: i will make sure to add some real obnoxious msg to remind you |
| 11:23 | <kvandivo> | throw in a 'rm -rf /' and find out if they are running it as root if they do that.. |
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| 11:23 | <pmowry> | =) |
| 11:24 | <warlord> | Chutt: logs don't have anything interesting, except the double-recording. |
| 11:25 | <HenkPoley> | mythfrontend is supposed to use OSS (or better, OSS emulation layer) when ALSA is present? |
| 11:26 | <pahli_bar> | HenkPoley: if you haven't compiled with native alsa support |
| 11:28 | <HenkPoley> | ehm, shouldn't USE="alsa ..." on gentoo do right that? |
| 11:30 | <HenkPoley> | hmm, I might just update to 0.13, now it is out of ~x86 (==unstable) in portage |
| 11:30 | <pahli_bar> | HenkPoley: for gentoo related myth questions see the user mailing list archives |
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| 11:46 | <warlord> | Chutt: thanks for the commit |
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| 11:57 | <Chutt> | hopefully it fixed it |
| 11:58 | <Chutt> | and, thank jason hoos for his explanation email =) |
| 12:10 | <shorawitz> | so, what are we talking about here now? |
| 12:11 | <shorawitz> | anyone here using native lirc support in myth currently? |
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| 12:17 | <pmowry> | shorawitz:native lirc in CVS from yesterday does not work for me. But I upgraded my kernel and ivtv at the same time. |
| 12:18 | <shorawitz> | me too |
| 12:18 | <shorawitz> | ok, I thought it was just something lame I did |
| 12:18 | <shorawitz> | I'm recompiling without it. I'll go back to irxevent then |
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| 12:46 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: the bigger fonts definitely look better :) |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | glad you agree |
| 12:47 | <pahli_bar> | heh |
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| 13:06 | <warlord> | Chutt: yea, that email was pretty consise. I'll test it shortly.. my recording just ended. |
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| 13:39 | <pahli_bar> | anybody good with opengl lighting |
| 13:42 | * | pahli_bar wonders where all the CS people are hiding ;) |
| 13:43 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 13:50 | <Misirlou> | Heh, no copy of the GPL is distributed with MythTV? |
| 13:52 | <shorawitz> | is it GPL'd? |
| 13:52 | <Chutt> | there's a link. |
| 13:53 | <Misirlou> | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhyMustIInclude |
| 13:53 | <Misirlou> | shorawitz: I guess it's not GPL'd yet. :) |
| 13:53 | <Chutt> | um |
| 13:53 | <Chutt> | that's a really stupid reason. |
| 13:53 | <shorawitz> | where's the link? |
| 13:53 | <Chutt> | in the COPYING file |
| 13:54 | <Chutt> | like the license should be? |
| 13:54 | <shorawitz> | ic |
| 13:54 | <Chutt> | i see no reason to bloat up the size of the tarball with a file that everyone already has several hundred copies of. |
| 13:57 | <Misirlou> | From what I've read, it won't be under the GPL until it's actually included. |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | um |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | no. |
| 13:59 | <Chutt> | if that were true, everything in debian wouldn't be GPL'd |
| 13:59 | <Chutt> | since none of their packages include a full copy of it. |
| 14:02 | <Misirlou> | Hmm, that should probably be corrected as well. |
| 14:02 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:03 | <Chutt> | you're funny. |
| 14:07 | <cmorgan> | if you can't find the gpl in 20 years you'll have trouble finding myth as well i think |
| 14:07 | <shorawitz> | "funny how, like I'm a clown - I amuse?" |
| 14:08 | <shorawitz> | sorry, had to slip some Pesci in there |
| 14:09 | <Misirlou> | Actually, Debian's fine since all packages are distributed as a part of a whole. |
| 14:09 | <Chutt> | no they're not. |
| 14:10 | <Misirlou> | Yes, they are. |
| 14:10 | <Chutt> | how? |
| 14:10 | <Chutt> | you can install debs on other systems than debian fairly easily. |
| 14:10 | <mdz> | every Debian system has a copy of the GPL on it, so if you install the package, you have the license |
| 14:11 | <Chutt> | mdz, right, but there's absolutely nothing restricting the installation to a debian system. |
| 14:11 | <mdz> | no, and of course this has been debated over and over |
| 14:12 | <Chutt> | so, my point is just that misirlou is just a dumbass |
| 14:12 | <Chutt> | and really shouldn't be babbling about this |
| 14:12 | <cmorgan> | you can't just pretend that there is no copyright just because there is no notice |
| 14:12 | <mdz> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=no&bug=78341 |
| 14:13 | <mdz> | Misirlou: when you find that you are on the same side of an argument as RMS, it's time to rethink your position |
| 14:13 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:15 | <Misirlou> | We are already on the same side, only divided again. |
| 14:17 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, the cube effect's pretty cool. |
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| 14:18 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:19 | <Chutt> | i wonder how the gl transitions work on the pvr-350 |
| 14:19 | <Chutt> | especially considering that machine's underpowered already |
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| 14:22 | <Chutt> | mdz, hey, you know that marillat's debs moved? |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | your instructions don't work anymore |
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| 14:31 | <mdz> | Chutt: I noticed I was getting a 404 and commented out my sources.list entry, does that count as knowing? |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | i did the same for awhile =0 |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | er, =) |
| 14:32 | <Chutt> | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main |
| 14:32 | <Chutt> | works, i believe |
| 14:33 | <kvandivo> | [OT][OT] so what does everything think... would _you_ be willing to go on a one way trip to mars? |
| 14:33 | <mdz> | I'll update my pages, thanks |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | no, it's cold there |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | :p |
| 14:34 | <kvandivo> | i looked up a graph of that just last night... supposedly on the first day of 'summer' it gets up to around 1 degree F |
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| 14:38 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: heh. glad you liked it. |
| 14:39 | <pahli_bar> | i need to get hold of crappy old system to check out the effects with software rendering |
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| 14:49 | <pahli_bar> | my god. people really like to bitch. (ref: Questions about MythMusic & MythVideo Future Development) |
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| 14:51 | <Chutt> | where's that? |
| 14:51 | <pahli_bar> | on the mythusers mailing list archive. (first page now). i see that you replied to it |
| 14:53 | <Chutt> | oh wow, that's old |
| 14:53 | <Chutt> | someone's been replying to old posts to start new threads |
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| 14:53 | <pahli_bar> | i unsubscribed from the list. boy, am i glad i did it. the amount of mail volume is amazing |
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| 14:55 | <Chutt> | i just skim it now |
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| 14:57 | <hardwired> | mythtv depends on wget? |
| 14:57 | <hardwired> | or rather mythfilldatabase |
| 14:57 | <ricko> | How are all things myth going? |
| 14:58 | <ricko> | Possibly hw. I thought all distros has wget |
| 14:58 | <hardwired> | that's a broad assumption |
| 14:58 | <hardwired> | i just noticed that the ebuild doesn't require it |
| 14:59 | <Chutt> | it'd be easy to replace with some http getting code that's in libmyth, now |
| 14:59 | <ricko> | it might be, but it should be true of the mainstream distros. I honestly don't know the transport mechanism |
| 14:59 | <hardwired> | QString command = QString("wget ") + (*i).iconpath; |
| 14:59 | <hardwired> | system(command); |
| 14:59 | <hardwired> | hrm |
| 15:00 | <pahli_bar> | it might need a change in design as qt sockets tend to be non-blocking |
| 15:00 | <Chutt> | the stuff in libmyth is blocking |
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| 15:02 | <hardwired> | what is the standard way of non-us, non-xmltv countries to set up channels in myth? xawtv file and mythfilldatabase? |
| 15:02 | <Chutt> | yeah, or just mythfilldb --manual |
| 15:02 | <Chutt> | or the new section in setup |
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| 15:03 | <hardwired> | new as in later than 0.13 release? |
| 15:03 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 15:03 | <hardwired> | ohh, ok. i'll upgrade then |
| 15:04 | <hardwired> | what if i have a webpage from my provider with all the data+icons on it? |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | the xawtv stuff's probably easiest for most people, though |
| 15:04 | <hardwired> | make a script that prints an xawtv file? or write directly to the channels table? |
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| 15:05 | <Chutt> | either |
| 15:05 | <hardwired> | ok, but all i have to fill is in the channel table or elsewhere as well? |
| 15:05 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 15:05 | <Chutt> | just the channel table |
| 15:06 | <hardwired> | very well. thanks. |
| 15:09 | <hardwired> | it skips the finetune input with my generated xawtv file and --manual |
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| 15:12 | <nchip> | .oO( 2077 mails in 16 days in mythtv-users ) |
| 15:12 | <ricko> | cold enough for yah willy? |
| 15:12 | <chillywilly> | dunno where to ask this so I will satrt here but doesn anyone know to burn an XSVCD cause all I got is an mpg...unlike the SVCD with the .bin and .cue files...just wondering if I have to do anything special |
| 15:12 | <ricko> | I'm glad I changed to digest mode |
| 15:13 | <chillywilly> | my nick is a reference to the cartoon penguin of old |
| 15:13 | <ricko> | ah yes...but I see you're in wi and it is plenty cold here |
| 15:13 | <chillywilly> | yep :) |
| 15:13 | <chillywilly> | I am cold right now here int eh basement |
| 15:13 | <chillywilly> | in the |
| 15:14 | <chillywilly> | it's pretty frickin cold out today |
| 15:14 | <ricko> | I haven't looked at vcd/svcd's etc. Just dvd stuff |
| 15:14 | <ricko> | Wait til Tuesday |
| 15:15 | <chillywilly> | I downloaded the stargate ep that I missed but I'd rather watch it on my TV than on my computer...XSVCD is just like SVCD but with a higher bitrate...although it's an mpg file so that is wat is confusing...do I need o make soem kinda vcd image...dunno |
| 15:15 | <chillywilly> | hmmm, my typing sucks |
| 15:16 | <shorawitz> | anyone running hauppauge grey remote with ivtv-0.1.9 & mythv-cvs? |
| 15:16 | <ricko> | Where do you plan on watching it? (your computer or ??) |
| 15:16 | <shorawitz> | I can't seem to get the damn remote to work |
| 15:16 | <ricko> | I have the grey remote, not using it yet though |
| 15:16 | <chillywilly> | I need to get another shuttle XPC and make it into my PVR |
| 15:16 | <shorawitz> | ricko: is your box in production? |
| 15:16 | <hardwired> | shorawitz: there were mails about it being broken with latest |
| 15:16 | <chillywilly> | I'd like to watch it on my DVD player if I can get it to play XSVCD |
| 15:17 | <shorawitz> | yeah, but I can't even get irw to repond |
| 15:17 | <ricko> | My box is in working order, but not running myth right now. I was doing some video editing and had to turnoff the back end |
| 15:18 | <hardwired> | shorawitz: but did it work before you upgraded? |
| 15:18 | <shorawitz> | yeah |
| 15:18 | <ricko> | It's a sweet setup. I have a raid 5 array and a pvr250, running myth 0.13. Front end is a minimyth box with an EPIA EM6000 |
| 15:23 | <ricko> | http://www.satlug.org/~bigjnsa/vcd-linux.htm |
| 15:23 | <ricko> | There is a link for XVCD creation |
| 15:24 | <shorawitz> | so hw, is it an ivtv problem? Shouldn't it at least work with lircd & irw? |
| 15:24 | <pahli_bar> | www.vcdimager.org has enough information on (S/X)VCD creation |
| 15:25 | <ricko> | That too. chillywilly, you need to take that mpeg and convert it |
| 15:26 | <hardwired> | shorawitz: uh, i don't know |
| 15:27 | <shorawitz> | is anyone even using 0.1.9 with a remote then? |
| 15:27 | <shorawitz> | I guess wrong irc |
| 15:27 | <hardwired> | does it work when you do not load the ivtv modules? |
| 15:28 | <shorawitz> | I'll remove them and try, but I don't think so |
| 15:31 | <shorawitz> | nope |
| 15:31 | <shorawitz> | [root@pvr1 root][root@pvr1 root]# lircd -n |
| 15:31 | <shorawitz> | lircd 0.7.0pre2: lircd(hauppauge) ready |
| 15:31 | <shorawitz> | lircd 0.7.0pre2: accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| 15:31 | <shorawitz> | lircd 0.7.0pre2: could not open /dev/lirc |
| 15:31 | <shorawitz> | lircd 0.7.0pre2: default_init(): No such device |
| 15:31 | <shorawitz> | lircd 0.7.0pre2: caught signal |
| 15:31 | <shorawitz> | Terminated |
| 15:31 | <ricko> | are you using devfs? |
| 15:31 | <shorawitz> | no |
| 15:31 | <ricko> | then you need to create the device |
| 15:32 | <shorawitz> | sorry, it is running |
| 15:32 | <ricko> | if /dev/lirc doesn't exist how do you expect it to work? |
| 15:32 | <shorawitz> | [root@pvr1 lirc-0.7.0pre2][root@pvr1 lirc-0.7.0pre2]# ls -l /dev/lirc* |
| 15:32 | <shorawitz> | crw-r--r-- 1 root root 61, 0 Jan 16 11:39 /dev/lirc |
| 15:32 | <shorawitz> | srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Jan 16 12:31 /dev/lircd= |
| 15:32 | <shorawitz> | it does, that's the weird part |
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| 15:32 | <hardwired> | /dev/lircd= ? |
| 15:32 | <ricko> | hmmm. |
| 15:32 | <shorawitz> | that's the socket |
| 15:33 | <shorawitz> | [root@pvr1 lirc-0.7.0pre2][root@pvr1 lirc-0.7.0pre2]# lsmod | head |
| 15:33 | <shorawitz> | Module Size Used by Tainted: P |
| 15:33 | <shorawitz> | lirc_i2c 5124 0 (unused) |
| 15:33 | <shorawitz> | lirc_dev 10288 0 [lirc_i2c] |
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