| --- | Log | opened Thu Jan 15 00:00:05 2004 |
| 00:04 | <bobnvic> | I have a problem getting xmame to run fullscreen. when I run it, from command line or mythgame, it crashes X. I'm guessing it's setting the resolution to something my tv-out doesn't like, but setting it 640x480 in mythgame settings doesn't help |
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| 00:13 | <jmblack> | are their docs nad or a faq available on 'features' of mythtv or a howto on how to use it? Specifically right now I want to end a recording but not delete what is currently recorded.. I know it can be done but I cant fumble through how ;) |
| 00:13 | <jmblack> | nad == and ;) |
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| 00:14 | <Chutt> | jmblack, just hit m on the watch recordings screen |
| 00:14 | <Return0> | hey |
| 00:15 | <Return0> | what's the apt-source for mythtv? |
| 00:16 | <Return0> | for .13 |
| 00:16 | <Return0> | I have sarge |
| 00:17 | <mdz> | Return0: http://www.google.com/search?q=mythtv%20debian |
| 00:17 | <thor_> | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#precompiled |
| 00:18 | <Chutt> | or http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=Web_Links -> binary packages section |
| 00:19 | <Return0> | mdz I tried the mdz source at first I was using woody but now since I am using sarge I tried unstable so I could get .13 but it didn't work when I tried apt-get |
| 00:20 | <mdz> | in that case, still, what you need to know can be found at the above URLs |
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| 00:24 | <Return0> | I'm only seeing .11 on those docs |
| 00:26 | <Return0> | unless I change the apt source from woody to unstable |
| 00:26 | <jmblack> | Chutt, thx |
| 00:27 | <Return0> | I try apt-get install mythtv (mythtv-suite seems non-existant) and it says it depends on mythtv- back and front end but it is not going to be installed. |
| 00:28 | <jmblack> | wow, the gant theme is nice :) |
| 00:28 | <Return0> | that's for unstable though and I'm using sarge... |
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| 00:36 | <Return0> | dangit! |
| 00:36 | <Return0> | I can't figure this out |
| 00:36 | <jmblack> | is their a setting somewhere to 'delay x seconds' beforre recording? or maybe execute channel changing script x seconds before a recording? |
| 00:37 | <jmblack> | I can record MORE before or after a recording.... I want to record less ;) I keep picking up the previous channel in my recordings ;( |
| 00:37 | <Return0> | I have deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu:8088/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv |
| 00:38 | <Return0> | but it gives me dependency errors |
| 00:38 | <jmblack> | hrm.... solve those dependancies? ;) |
| 00:39 | <Return0> | but it's apt it's supposed to do it |
| 00:39 | <Chutt> | maybe it doesn't know where to get the packages to solve those dependencies? |
| 00:39 | <Return0> | they are on the same apt-source |
| 00:39 | <Chutt> | what packages? |
| 00:40 | <Return0> | mythtv-frontend |
| 00:40 | <Return0> | and backend |
| 00:40 | <Chutt> | no |
| 00:40 | <Chutt> | that just says it's not going to install those |
| 00:40 | <Chutt> | for _another_ reason |
| 00:40 | <Return0> | oh |
| 00:40 | <Return0> | but if I try to do those manually... |
| 00:41 | <Return0> | ok so somewhere deep in this dependency tree there is something missing probably? |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | it should tell you what, yes. |
| 00:41 | <jmblack> | Am I dreaming of a feature that does not exist.... or should I go re-read the documentation again ;) |
| 00:43 | <Chutt> | jmblack, you can tell it to record later |
| 00:43 | <Chutt> | but, just fast forward when you start watching |
| 00:43 | <Chutt> | i don't see it being a big deal |
| 00:43 | <jmblack> | hrm... k, I'll dive into the docs |
| 00:43 | <Return0> | chutt so what should I do? |
| 00:43 | <jmblack> | its not a 'big deal' .. it would just look nicer :) |
| 00:44 | <Chutt> | return0, figure out which package it's dying on? |
| 00:44 | <thor_> | I'm trying to get the channel changing script to start my hot air popper 4 minutes before a movie starts, but the butter is not melting properly |
| 00:44 | <Return0> | so just try to install a dependency until I find the problem? |
| 00:44 | <jmblack> | thor, sigh :) I wasnt being that newbish :P |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | return0, it should tell you what the missing dependency is. |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | as i've said. |
| 00:45 | <Return0> | it doesn't |
| 00:45 | <jmblack> | maybe one day I'll be 'in the know' enough to add the delay Im hoping for :) |
| 00:46 | * | thor_ starts thinking about X10 modules in the mfd ... oh dear |
| 00:46 | <jmblack> | haha |
| 00:47 | <Return0> | going down the dependecies it looks like libqt is not a high enough version |
| 00:47 | <jmblack> | scary.... your on vacation... and come home to a floor full of popcorn becuase you forgot to tell your mythtv box you were going out of town... and it didnt need to pop the popcorn ;) |
| 00:48 | <thor_> | hmmm butter |
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| 00:50 | <Chutt> | warlord-afk, are you around? |
| 00:55 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
| 00:55 | <Chutt> | want someone to test this pip code |
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| 00:57 | <thor_> | 350 pip code ? |
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| 01:00 | <Chutt> | yeah |
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| 01:07 | <Chutt> | huh, i wonder how i left off the beginning letter on that commit |
| 01:07 | <Chutt> | weird. |
| 01:08 | <thor_> | heh |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | oh well |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | time to start the long and arduous recompile on the epia-m |
| 01:11 | <thor_> | heh |
| 01:12 | <thor_> | try it on a via 500 or whatever that thing they sent me was ... |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | you asked for that :p |
| 01:12 | <thor_> | nice case :-) |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | coulda gotten the m10k |
| 01:13 | <thor_> | less than 10" deep, sitting on my bookshelf between two other books driving a little Nakamichi running an mfd |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | so, when d'ya think mfd will be ready to start getting integrated into other stuff? |
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| 01:14 | <thor_> | 'bout a month |
| 01:15 | <thor_> | thought as a first test I'd hack mythmusic to look for it and run as normal if it can't find it |
| 01:15 | <Chutt> | that'd be cool. |
| 01:16 | <thor_> | really wants new clients, but it's a transition path |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | what about the transcoding stuff? |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | is that in there at all yet? |
| 01:16 | <thor_> | music yes |
| 01:16 | <thor_> | dvd no |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | cd ripping? |
| 01:16 | <thor_> | not as such |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | i want background cd ripping =) |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | with a little menu plugin that shows it's still going |
| 01:17 | <thor_> | yup |
| 01:17 | <Teflon> | heh |
| 01:17 | <Teflon> | that'd be nice |
| 01:17 | <thor_> | you'll get it, and network wide |
| 01:17 | <Teflon> | then i can ditch EAC |
| 01:17 | <thor_> | still a bit more hill to climb, then it'll start to get easy to through stuff in |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | great |
| 01:20 | <Chutt> | thor, i'm thinking 0.14 in a couple weeks |
| 01:21 | <thor_> | yup ... other than a little thing here and a little thing there, I'm head down on the mfd stuff in any case |
| 01:21 | <thor_> | oh, that reminds me, mmusic french translation ? |
| 01:21 | <Chutt> | oh, yeah |
| 01:21 | <Chutt> | i was going to do that today, then got distracted |
| 01:22 | <Chutt> | i'll do it tomorrow |
| 01:22 | <thor_> | yup |
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| 02:18 | <return0> | hey |
| 02:18 | <return0> | I just got things set up a bit |
| 02:19 | <return0> | I can "watch tv" but I can't tune (up and down just brings up an empty box at the bottom) |
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| 02:19 | <return0> | and there are some various other things |
| 02:20 | <return0> | I had xawtv scan for channels and it got all the ones that can be tuned as ??? |
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| 02:32 | <mchou> | Chutt, am I supposed to get subscribe confirmation almost immediately for myth-dev list, or does it take a while? |
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| 02:50 | <return0> | so any ideas why I cant tune with "watch tv"? |
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| 03:03 | <ofer> | hello |
| 03:03 | <ofer> | can anybody point me to documentation on setting up myth to encode in mpeg2? |
| 03:03 | <ofer> | via software? |
| 03:03 | <ofer> | i have an epia but no hardware mpeg2 encoder |
| 03:05 | <return0> | everyone's like asleep or something |
| 03:05 | <ofer> | you arent! =) |
| 03:05 | <return0> | but I just have questions like you |
| 03:05 | <return0> | not answers :P |
| 03:06 | <ofer> | what are your questions? |
| 03:07 | <return0> | I can't tune for some reason |
| 03:07 | <return0> | when using 'watch tv' |
| 03:07 | <ofer> | i. e. it wont display anything? |
| 03:07 | <ofer> | or you cant change the channel? |
| 03:07 | <return0> | it starts on the channel I last tuned with xawtv |
| 03:08 | <return0> | but then when I press up and down it doesn't do anything |
| 03:08 | <thor_> | no channels in your database |
| 03:08 | <return0> | but... the guide has all the channels |
| 03:08 | <return0> | and it's populated. |
| 03:08 | <ofer> | did you accidently set an external program to change the channel? |
| 03:08 | <ofer> | what card do you have? |
| 03:09 | <return0> | bttv card=34 :P |
| 03:09 | <return0> | it's a winfast something or other |
| 03:09 | <thor_> | in ./setup you mapped a channel source to the tuner input on the bt card ... ? |
| 03:09 | <return0> | I didn't compile the source |
| 03:09 | <return0> | I'm using a deb package |
| 03:09 | <return0> | .13 |
| 03:09 | <thor_> | or mythsetup ... I think thats what Debian packages call it |
| 03:10 | <return0> | ah yes |
| 03:10 | <return0> | yeah I mapped it |
| 03:10 | <thor_> | you wouldn't want to check that just one more time (carefully) ? |
| 03:11 | <return0> | doing so |
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| 03:12 | <ofer> | thor: do you know how to configure myth for software mpeg2 encoding? |
| 03:12 | <thor_> | post recording transcoding ? |
| 03:12 | <ofer> | thor: i was hoping live recording etc. etc. |
| 03:12 | <thor_> | or straight encoding on a bt8** ? |
| 03:12 | <return0> | you're a genius |
| 03:13 | <return0> | it was mapped to the wrong one :P |
| 03:13 | <thor_> | send money to the EFF |
| 03:13 | <thor_> | :-) |
| 03:13 | <ofer> | thor: straight bt8** |
| 03:13 | <thor_> | ofer, one sec |
| 03:14 | <thor_> | sorry, uhm ... you want to do realtime encoding off a bt878 to mpeg2 ? |
| 03:14 | <ofer> | yeah |
| 03:15 | <ofer> | i can do it to mpeg4, why not mpeg2 ? =) |
| 03:15 | <thor_> | it's a compression thing |
| 03:15 | <thor_> | lots of work to do 30 times a second :-) |
| 03:15 | <ofer> | the second question is how do i invoke a via epia's mpeg 2 decoder |
| 03:15 | <ofer> | yeah, mpeg4 is (theoretically) more processor intensive in encoding than mpeg2 |
| 03:15 | <ofer> | or at least thats my impression |
| 03:16 | <thor_> | well, "mpeg2" and "mpeg4" are fairly loose categories .... I suspect you just want something realtime that you can watch on other OS's, no ? |
| 03:17 | <ofer> | i want to use the epias mpeg2 decoder |
| 03:17 | <thor_> | ah |
| 03:17 | <thor_> | I'm not going to be much help to you there ... |
| 03:17 | <ofer> | so i need to be able to have mythtv encode into mpeg2 so it can decode that mpeg2 on the epia |
| 03:17 | <thor_> | try -dev, or wait for someone who knows about epia's to show up |
| 03:17 | <ofer> | ok =) |
| 03:17 | <thor_> | myth don't encode to mpeg2 |
| 03:18 | <thor_> | at least, not realtime |
| 03:18 | <ofer> | theres no modules or anything to add more than just the rtjpeg and mpeg4? |
| 03:18 | <thor_> | nope |
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| 03:18 | <ofer> | oh |
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| 03:18 | <thor_> | not realtime |
| 03:18 | <ofer> | somebody should make a mythtv clone that uses gstreamer =) |
| 03:19 | <thor_> | looking forward to your patches |
| 03:19 | <thor_> | :-) |
| 03:19 | <ofer> | somehow i think that woudl be a complete overhaul |
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| 06:08 | <return0> | how do you stop a scheduled recording that hasn't finished yet? |
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| 07:57 | <Desiac> | can anyone suggest another program to setup the tuner, i've tried xawtv but i keep getting a segmentation fault, tried removeing and reinstalling, each time same error, any suggestions would be greatly appreicated |
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| 09:25 | <pahli_bar> | Desiac: tvtime |
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| 09:55 | <Desiac> | pahli_bar: thanks mate :) |
| 09:57 | <pahli_bar> | np |
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| 10:24 | <warlord> | Chutt: I'm here now. I can test that if you want. |
| 10:40 | <o_cee\afk> | pahli_bar: did you try out that fade effect? :) |
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| 10:41 | <pahli_bar> | not yet |
| 10:41 | <o_cee> | you might want to try brightness->up->back instead of fade to white.. |
| 10:43 | <pahli_bar> | fading to white is easy. not so easy to change brightness. |
| 10:44 | <pahli_bar> | or at least for me... |
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| 10:47 | <o_cee> | okay, do it fade to white then :) |
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| 11:40 | <warlord> | Chutt: I just finished reading my email and noticed you committed the test code. I'll get to testing it this afternoon. Thanks! |
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| 12:13 | <G-funk|laptop> | hello |
| 12:14 | <G-funk|laptop> | quick question: when i update cvs, should i do a make clean too? |
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| 12:15 | <G-funk|laptop> | or should i just do the ./configure, qmake mythtv.pro, make and make install? |
| 12:16 | <sfr> | G-funk|laptop: depends on the changes. sometimes make distclean is required. |
| 12:16 | <G-funk|laptop> | sfr, oh, how can i find out? |
| 12:17 | <Chutt> | the commits list |
| 12:17 | <G-funk|laptop> | ok, i looked at that |
| 12:17 | <G-funk|laptop> | is it make clean distclean or just make distclean? |
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| 12:18 | <pahli_bar> | make distclean includes make clean |
| 12:18 | <sfr> | G-funk|laptop: or simply add a make distclean in your build script |
| 12:18 | <G-funk|laptop> | ok, thanks |
| 12:18 | <G-funk|laptop> | heh, my "build script" |
| 12:19 | <G-funk|laptop> | sorry about the stupid questions, been using linux a long time but don't compile much from source anymore, myth is beautiful though |
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| 12:21 | <G-funk|laptop> | one more question: is there anything i can do to get rid of the dang prebuffering pauses? this might be a question for the ivtv guys i guess |
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| 12:22 | <sfr> | reduce the resolution or get a faster computer. using a h/w mpeg encoder card also helps |
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| 12:23 | <G-funk|laptop> | i have 2 pvr-250's |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, hey, are you meaning for the thumbnails to be slightly zoomed in? |
| 12:28 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: hmm. wasn't planning that. any thoughts? |
| 12:28 | <Chutt> | no, they are |
| 12:28 | <Chutt> | edges are cut off |
| 12:28 | <pahli_bar> | that was intentional. |
| 12:28 | <Chutt> | ah, ok |
| 12:29 | <pahli_bar> | to make vertical and horizontal images look same |
| 12:29 | <Chutt> | that's all i was wondering |
| 12:31 | <G-funk|laptop> | should i use # or not before the channel in xmltv if i don't want the channel? |
| 12:31 | <G-funk|laptop> | it says not in the file but # in mythtv doc |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | do what it says in the file. |
| 12:31 | <G-funk|laptop> | last question, then i'll be out of your hair |
| 12:31 | <G-funk|laptop> | ok, thanks, that's what i did |
| 12:31 | <pahli_bar> | G-funk|laptop: same effect. with not xmltv won't complain |
| 12:31 | <G-funk|laptop> | cool |
| 12:50 | <warlord> | Chutt: FYI, the PiP code doesn't work, and it locks up the frontend key input. |
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| 13:00 | <bdunn13> | Quick question: Is there a better card for myth than the |
| 13:00 | <bdunn13> | Hauppauge |
| 13:00 | <bdunn13> | crap.. than the Happauge 250 |
| 13:01 | <pahli_bar> | 350 |
| 13:01 | <warlord> | yea, the Hauppauge PVR-350.. Gives you tv-out. Nice picture.. |
| 13:03 | <bdunn13> | I just had a friend a while back tell me there were driver issues with the 350.. so I guess those have been ironed out now.. thx |
| 13:03 | <tmk> | some issues remain |
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| 13:03 | <tmk> | but watching pre-recorded shows works fine |
| 13:03 | <tmk> | live tv (using the live-tv button) can cause issues |
| 13:03 | <tmk> | and the epg can cause issues |
| 13:03 | <tmk> | otherwise it's fine afaik |
| 13:03 | <bdunn13> | k.. thanks for the info |
| 13:12 | <Chutt> | warlord, does it do anything at all? |
| 13:13 | <Chutt> | ah, ya know, it's probably trying to use the decoder again |
| 13:13 | <warlord> | Chutt: nothing visibly... |
| 13:13 | <warlord> | (except hanging the UI interface). |
| 13:13 | <warlord> | The existing video continues to work just fine. |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | yeah, it's probably trying to use the decoder again |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | i just threw that code together last night, though =) |
| 13:15 | <warlord> | yea... i was surprised it came so quickly. ;) |
| 13:16 | <Chutt> | i'd been putting off doing pvr-350 stuff because i didn't want to interfere with dave's patch |
| 13:16 | <warlord> | *nods* |
| 13:16 | <warlord> | fair enough... |
| 13:18 | <warlord> | let me know if you'd like any more info from me, or have another pathc |
| 13:19 | <Chutt> | i'll take a look later today |
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| 13:19 | <warlord> | cool. |
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| 13:24 | <josephk> | yay |
| 13:27 | <tmk> | Chutt: have you tried the page-flipping thing since you put in the option to use fewer buffers? |
| 13:27 | <tmk> | for the osd |
| 13:27 | <Chutt> | nope |
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| 14:53 | <Snow-Man> | Anyone know this 'Ulmo' guy? |
| 14:53 | <Chutt> | regarding what? |
| 14:54 | <Snow-Man> | I dunno, he uses dyndns and it took a while to get mail to him and then all of a sudden it all went through and then a post went to -dev very shortly. |
| 14:54 | <Snow-Man> | "Things that make you go hmm" |
| 14:55 | <Snow-Man> | Erm. |
| 14:55 | <Snow-Man> | And the message he sent to the list showed up funny in the archive. |
| 14:56 | <Snow-Man> | Skipped content of type multipart/mixed-------------- next part -------------- |
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| 14:56 | <Snow-Man> | Desc: not available |
| 14:56 | <Snow-Man> | Url : http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/attachments/20040115/e991a184/attachment.pgp |
| 14:56 | <thor_> | he's alsoo CC'ing himslef |
| 14:56 | <thor_> | also |
| 14:56 | <thor_> | himself |
| 14:56 | <thor_> | ahhh |
| 14:56 | <HenkPoley> | pfff |
| 14:56 | <Snow-Man> | Did it show up sensibly in people's mail? |
| 14:56 | <thor_> | yup |
| 14:57 | <Snow-Man> | Hrm. |
| 14:57 | <Snow-Man> | I guess it's not a spam thing, but, well, weird. :) |
| 14:57 | <thor_> | no, it's a patch |
| 14:57 | <Chutt> | mr. security weenie himself complaning of someone signing their messages? :p |
| 14:58 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: No, just didn't actually see the message so was wondering if it was spam. :P |
| 14:58 | <Snow-Man> | Like, if a spammer had subscribed and set up a repost or something. |
| 14:58 | <Snow-Man> | blah, afk. |
| 14:59 | <warlord> | mr. security weenie??? |
| 14:59 | <warlord> | feels weird to be in a crowd where *I* don't have that title.. ;) |
| 14:59 | <Chutt> | snowman's not as bad as others, but =) |
| 15:00 | <thor_> | better than Mr. Weenie ! |
| 15:00 | <warlord> | LOL |
| 15:00 | <warlord> | "Oscar Meyer"? |
| 15:06 | <hardwired> | a football in the nuts? |
| 15:08 | <bitbyte> | my balogna has a first name |
| 15:08 | <bitbyte> | it's o-s-c-a-r |
| 15:08 | <bitbyte> | my balogna has a second name |
| 15:08 | <bitbyte> | it's m-a-y-e-r |
| 15:08 | <bitbyte> | ohhhh I love ot eat it everyday |
| 15:08 | <kvandivo> | i _so_ held myself back from doing that about 8 minutes ago.. |
| 15:08 | <bitbyte> | and if you ask me why i'll saaaay |
| 15:09 | <bitbyte> | cuz Oscar Myer has a way with bologna |
| 15:09 | <bitbyte> | cuz Oscar Myer has a way with b-o-o-g-n-a |
| 15:09 | <bitbyte> | feh |
| 15:09 | <bitbyte> | i screwed it up |
| 15:09 | <o_cee> | stop saying oscar, my irc-client blinks :) |
| 15:09 | <bitbyte> | hehe |
| 15:09 | <bitbyte> | sorry |
| 15:09 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 15:10 | <bitbyte> | is yer name 0sc4r? |
| 15:10 | <sfr> | you mean oscar? |
| 15:10 | <bitbyte> | haha |
| 15:10 | <bitbyte> | yes |
| 15:10 | <bitbyte> | sup sfr? |
| 15:10 | <sfr> | hi |
| 15:10 | <bitbyte> | how goes it? |
| 15:11 | <sfr> | ok |
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| 15:15 | <hardwired> | this isp is getting worse |
| 15:16 | <hardwired> | 2MBit for peanuts, but since they upgraded the bw they have issues |
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| 15:24 | <warlord> | they clearly just moved the location of the network-straw |
| 15:26 | <HenkPoley> | Chutt: do you have a MHz to 'channel value + tweak' calculator? |
| 15:26 | <Chutt> | why would i? |
| 15:26 | <HenkPoley> | I'm not really into that |
| 15:26 | <HenkPoley> | Well support and such |
| 15:26 | <HenkPoley> | Mythtv does do the reverse calculation |
| 15:26 | <Chutt> | i have absolutely no need of such a tool. |
| 15:26 | <HenkPoley> | so I need to tell mythtv what it want to knjow |
| 15:27 | <Chutt> | so why would i write one? |
| 15:27 | <HenkPoley> | I guess it would be simple for you, but well I know your opinion, thank yoy |
| 15:35 | <Chutt> | warlord, found one problem with the pip stuff |
| 15:35 | <Chutt> | not working yet, though |
| 15:35 | <warlord> | ok |
| 15:35 | <warlord> | I've got about 2h20 until my next scheduled recording. |
| 15:36 | <warlord> | and then about 2 hours after that. |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | oh, geez, i think i just found the other bug |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | stupid thing |
| 15:40 | <Chutt> | warlord, i got it displaying garbage now =) |
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| 15:46 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 15:46 | <Chutt> | closer |
| 15:46 | <Chutt> | looks like the alpha's off |
| 15:47 | <warlord> | Mmmm.. Garbage... |
| 15:47 | * | warlord has faith in you.. |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | i really should spend some time and learn mmx a little better |
| 15:52 | <kvandivo> | na.. if you did that you wouldn't be able to complain about not knowing it.. |
| 15:54 | <warlord> | Hmm, audio mute doesn't work out the -350 |
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| 15:55 | <Chutt> | volume doesn't work at all |
| 15:55 | <Chutt> | there isn't anything in the driver yet to control the audio |
| 15:55 | <warlord> | Ahh.. ok. |
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| 16:01 | <Snow-Man> | mwhwahahaha. |
| 16:02 | <Snow-Man> | delay=00:00:55, delay=00:00:56, delay=00:01:21, delay=00:01:22, delay=00:01:36, delay=00:01:38 |
| 16:02 | <Snow-Man> | Not too shabby. :) |
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| 16:05 | <hardwired> | HenkPoley: mhz to channel+tweak is dependend on your location |
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| 16:05 | <Netslayer> | i love the new visorosd in the screenshots but where do I get it? I have visor installed, but there is just blueosd/defaultosd |
| 16:06 | <HenkPoley> | yeah, I know but mythtv knows all the tables |
| 16:06 | <hardwired> | Netslayer: did you hear of google yet? |
| 16:07 | <Netslayer> | oh the theme was updated..no i already had it just an older ver |
| 16:07 | <HenkPoley> | even weirder (IMHO, but american wise it is not), why not store the MHz value in the db, the card needs it that way, so... |
| 16:07 | <hardwired> | HenkPoley: mythtv knows all the different tables, such as pal-europe-west, europe-east? |
| 16:08 | <HenkPoley> | yes |
| 16:08 | <HenkPoley> | I'll find it on the mailinglist, some ref to CVS |
| 16:08 | <hardwired> | didn't know that. up to now i planned to use that perl module on the ivtv website to get the channel name table for my area |
| 16:09 | <HenkPoley> | http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/mythtv/libs/libmythtv/frequencies.c?content-type=text%2Fplain&rev=1.5 |
| 16:09 | <HenkPoley> | frequency translation table, 'something' to MHz |
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| 16:10 | <Netslayer> | :-/ can someone tell me how to get this osd working? I have the latest visor installed but still only see blueosd/defaultosd in the playback properties: http://mythtv.sf.net/mc/visorosdtwo.png |
| 16:11 | <hardwired> | HenkPoley-afk: ah. interesting. |
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| 16:17 | <thor_> | nipple, muvs, whatever |
| 16:18 | <Snow-Man> | No one cares. :( |
| 16:19 | <kvandivo> | presumably it is assumed that we will know what they are talking about |
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| 16:22 | <HenkPoley-afk> | sorry I'm back |
| 16:22 | <HenkPoley-afk> | running between mythtv and pc |
| 16:22 | HenkPoley-afk | is now known as HenkPoley |
| 16:22 | <hardwired> | heh |
| 16:22 | <HenkPoley> | now trying to find out how to setup sshd as deamon under gentoo |
| 16:23 | <hardwired> | uh, it should already be |
| 16:23 | <HenkPoley> | well, it is now |
| 16:23 | <HenkPoley> | at least, it doesn't autostart |
| 16:23 | <hardwired> | HenkPoley: rc-update add default sshd |
| 16:23 | <hardwired> | or add sshd default |
| 16:23 | <HenkPoley> | ...unless my router has an X login, and I mistanly entered it's IP :-P |
| 16:24 | <HenkPoley> | hardwired: is it allright that starting 'sshd' from commandline fails with all kinds of errors about opening keys etc. ? |
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| 16:24 | <HenkPoley> | trying to start it as root btw |
| 16:25 | <hardwired> | probably... it needs to generate server keys and if they are not present it will complain |
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| 16:25 | <HenkPoley> | should I use ssh-keygen or something> |
| 16:25 | <HenkPoley> | ? |
| 16:25 | <hardwired> | you should start it with /etc/init.d/sshd start |
| 16:26 | <hardwired> | instead of just sshd |
| 16:26 | <HenkPoley> | kay, I'll go trying that |
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| 16:27 | <hardwired> | i just shut down my myth box so i have no way to doublecheck |
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| 16:28 | <hardwired> | ok, gotta go |
| 16:28 | <hardwired> | if the above doesn't work, do something like this: |
| 16:28 | <hardwired> | /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -t rsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key -N '' |
| 16:29 | <HenkPoley> | the /etc/init.d/sshd start worked |
| 16:29 | <HenkPoley> | rc-update not... |
| 16:29 | <hardwired> | ah, then it does that automatically when there are no keys |
| 16:29 | <HenkPoley> | there isn't even a manpage of rc-update :-/ |
| 16:29 | <hardwired> | ls /etc/runlevels/default |
| 16:29 | <hardwired> | is sshd in there? |
| 16:29 | <hardwired> | or runlevel without s |
| 16:30 | * | hardwired doesn't use gentoo very often |
| 16:30 | <hardwired> | rc-update add sshd default |
| 16:30 | <hardwired> | that's the exact command |
| 16:30 | <HenkPoley> | yay logged in, trying now |
| 16:31 | <hardwired> | anyway, got to go. laters |
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| 16:33 | <kvandivo> | luckily the blind step up to bat and accurately describe muv files |
| 16:42 | <HenkPoley> | ? |
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| 16:47 | <Chutt> | with the ivtv output didn't look like shit at lower resolutions |
| 16:47 | <Chutt> | 'wish' |
| 16:48 | <Matt> | hmmm |
| 16:48 | * | Matt suspect lame needs upgrading |
| 16:49 | <Matt> | keeps freezing (at random) while watching livetv |
| 16:50 | <Matt> | oh well, I have a strange pc, that's in need of dragging up to date |
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| 16:59 | <tmk> | Chutt: i eagerly await your patch! |
| 16:59 | <tmk> | heh |
| 17:00 | <tmk> | actually there have been quite a few patches out lately that claim to improve low-res captures |
| 17:03 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: want a mythgallery screenshot with "real" images? |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | using blue |
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| 17:04 | <pahli_bar> | ok. will mail you one |
| 17:04 | <Chutt> | great =) |
| 17:04 | <warlord> | tmk: i should have a new cable tomorrow.. |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | warlord, one more test, then i'm committing working pip stuff |
| 17:06 | <warlord> | Chutt: cool. then I'll test it for ya! |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | i had to bump the capture resolution up to 320x240, though |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | for the pip window |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | so it's scaling down in software now |
| 17:07 | <warlord> | Oh, I thought it was always scaling down in software.... |
| 17:08 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 17:08 | <jbeimler> | question on my box. I'm having trouble w/ audio being shifted, using a PVR179. if I mplayer /dev/video0 I don't get the lag, but I do inside mythtv. any suggestions on whats going wrong? |
| 17:08 | <warlord> | (sort of like the preview video) |
| 17:08 | <Chutt> | it was only for dvb and hdtv pips |
| 17:08 | <Chutt> | others, it was just recording at tiny low resolutions =) |
| 17:08 | <warlord> | Ahh..... |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | actually, the pip window is probably being captured at normal bitrate |
| 17:09 | <tmk> | heh |
| 17:09 | <warlord> | anyways, let me know when you want me to test it.. |
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| 17:09 | <tmk> | 8mbit/sec for a postage stamp |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | tmk, no, default in mythtv is 4.5/6 |
| 17:10 | <tmk> | for what resolution? |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | 480x480 |
| 17:10 | <tmk> | ah |
| 17:10 | <tmk> | i use full-res |
| 17:10 | <warlord> | so do i, 720x480.. |
| 17:10 | <tmk> | it's deliciouser |
| 17:10 | <warlord> | I think I turned livetv down to 5.5/8 |
| 17:10 | <thor_> | deliciousest, I think |
| 17:11 | <warlord> | 350 output is reallly reallllllllly nice |
| 17:11 | <thor_> | grrr |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | i can't see a difference between 480x480 and 720x480 |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | except on tiny text |
| 17:13 | <tmk> | i can.. it's more blotchy |
| 17:13 | <tmk> | i switched between the antenna feed and the pvr box |
| 17:13 | <tmk> | really can't tell at 720x480 |
| 17:13 | <tmk> | 480x480 there was a difference |
| 17:14 | <thor_> | uberdeliciosity |
| 17:14 | <Chutt> | ther |
| 17:14 | <Chutt> | err, there |
| 17:14 | <Chutt> | pip works in cvs for the pvr-350 now |
| 17:14 | <Chutt> | it's not all that slow, either |
| 17:15 | <warlord> | cool, let me pull it down.. |
| 17:15 | <warlord> | Hmm, why do I get this: cvs update: cannot open directory /var/lib/mythcvs/mythtv/libs/libdvbdev: No such file or directory |
| 17:16 | <warlord> | (also for libvbitext) |
| 17:17 | <Chutt> | because i moved stuff around and cvs doesn't handle directory moves very well |
| 17:18 | <Chutt> | you can just delete those two dirs out of your checkout |
| 17:18 | <warlord> | Ok.. |
| 17:20 | <warlord> | Cool, it works.. |
| 17:20 | <warlord> | Except it doesn't go away when I turn it off... |
| 17:20 | <Chutt> | oh, i didn't test that |
| 17:20 | <warlord> | oops... :) |
| 17:24 | <Chutt> | one sec |
| 17:26 | <Chutt> | slow machine =) |
| 17:29 | <tmk> | heh |
| 17:30 | <Chutt> | there, fixed |
| 17:30 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:31 | <warlord> | cool... |
| 17:31 | <Chutt> | pip would've been done a _lot_ sooner today if i didn't have to keep running out to the living room to turn on pip mode |
| 17:31 | <warlord> | HEHE |
| 17:32 | <warlord> | pulling it down... |
| 17:32 | <warlord> | I can even build stuff while playing tv without skipping! |
| 17:32 | <warlord> | so cool |
| 17:32 | <Chutt> | hah |
| 17:32 | <Chutt> | try that on my epia-m |
| 17:32 | <Chutt> | no worky :p |
| 17:32 | <warlord> | why do you think I bought an athlon-xp 2600+? |
| 17:33 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:33 | <warlord> | I'll test it next commercial.. (watching Angel) |
| 17:33 | <Chutt> | just a one liner |
| 17:35 | <warlord> | Yep.. |
| 17:35 | <warlord> | cool. |
| 17:36 | <warlord> | wife will be happy |
| 17:36 | <warlord> | thank you |
| 17:37 | <Chutt> | welcome |
| 17:37 | <Chutt> | like i said, i've just been waiting for dave's stuff to get in =) |
| 17:38 | <warlord> | *nods* |
| 17:38 | <warlord> | do you have a (public) list of things on your To-do list? |
| 17:39 | <Chutt> | there's a rough one i posted to the -dev list earlier this month |
| 17:43 | <warlord> | ok. |
| 17:43 | <kvandivo> | are you looking for things to do, warlord? |
| 17:44 | <kvandivo> | ;) |
| 17:44 | <warlord> | Not particularly |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | want to get menu plugins done next |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | well, i'll do the two little pvr-350/epg things i mentioned |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | first |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, just updated the website with that image |
| 17:47 | <warlord> | kvandivo: I'm busy hacking on GnuCash right now.. |
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| 17:51 | <kvandivo> | hack it to give me more money each time it access my online bank... that'd be a useful hack.. |
| 17:53 | <warlord> | hehe -- send me a patch to do that and I'll include it. |
| 17:54 | <kvandivo> | busy right now writing a proposal... i'll try to get to that next week |
| 17:55 | <warlord> | ok |
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| 18:00 | <tmk> | Chutt: when you get a free moment, could you comment on the project i proposed on the ivtv list? (to the list) |
| 18:02 | <Chutt> | the direct mode live tv? |
| 18:03 | <Chutt> | doesn't fit in with the way things work at all in mythtv |
| 18:04 | <HenkPoley> | Just found a (hopefully) complete copy of the non-US FAQ on archive.org :-) |
| 18:07 | <tmk> | Chutt: yeah i know |
| 18:07 | <tmk> | but neither did david's patch really |
| 18:07 | <Chutt> | sure it did |
| 18:07 | <tmk> | had to switch the ff stuff out |
| 18:07 | <Chutt> | the slow motion / fast forwarding code was already in mythtv |
| 18:07 | <Chutt> | for software encoded stuff |
| 18:07 | <tmk> | hm |
| 18:08 | <Chutt> | his patch was really pretty minor |
| 18:08 | <tmk> | hm ok |
| 18:08 | <Chutt> | just changed how it talked to the driver |
| 18:08 | <tmk> | does the ringbuffer have a GOP list |
| 18:08 | <Chutt> | no architectural changes :p |
| 18:08 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 18:08 | <Chutt> | well, not the ringbuffer itself |
| 18:09 | <tmk> | but a table for the ringbuffer |
| 18:09 | <tmk> | right |
| 18:09 | <Chutt> | if someone wanted a direct-view tv mode |
| 18:09 | <Chutt> | that could probably be done with a separate player class |
| 18:09 | <Chutt> | and could conceivably be controlled with the same higher level code, etc |
| 18:11 | <Chutt> | bah, why's it going to take dell 2 weeks to put together my laptop |
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| 18:12 | <Netslayer> | :-) |
| 18:12 | <bline> | because their staff consists of high school/college students |
| 18:12 | <Netslayer> | in india |
| 18:12 | <krash314> | Chutt: when i bought my last laptop, took 20 days before they shipped it i believe |
| 18:12 | <bline> | in austin actually |
| 18:13 | <Netslayer> | at least i got a new dell lcd after mine developed particles |
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