| --- | Log | opened Wed Jan 14 00:00:22 2004 |
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| 00:01 | <ehate> | hey all, anyone know how I can not have a core pointer in my XF86Config? |
| 00:01 | <ehate> | in other words run myth w/out a mouse |
| 00:02 | <meth> | core pointer? |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | tell x that it's ok not to have a mouse defined? |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | what exactly does that have to do with mythtv? |
| 00:03 | <ehate> | chutt, myth runs on x, i would assume many ppl have mythboxes w/out mice, :. someone might have run into this |
| 00:04 | <Chutt> | ask on the mythtv-users list. |
| 00:04 | <Chutt> | this isn't #help-me-configure-xfree86 |
| 00:04 | <ehate> | jesus... |
| 00:07 | <ehate> | if you gusy are only going to tolerate dev chatter you should start mythtv-dev |
| 00:08 | <pmowry> | It's not enough for myth to hide the pointer? Mine is plugged in under the cabinet just in case myth loses focus, or I want to stop the frontend and do someting else. |
| 00:08 | <ehate> | pmowry....better not talk about that here |
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| 00:11 | <Chutt> | there |
| 00:11 | <Chutt> | nice little legend popup for the watch recordings icons |
| 00:12 | <pahli_bar> | popup with a key? |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 00:13 | <pahli_bar> | info? |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | i need to decide if i want a global help key |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | just made it '1' for now |
| 00:24 | <o_c> | F1? commonly used for help things ain't it? |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | right, but i don't know if i want to go through everything and make up help screens |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | so where's this gant update? =) |
| 00:24 | * | pahli_bar has no more keys left on his remote |
| 00:25 | <o_c> | blerh :) i'm working this week.. studys continue next week, so i'll have more time then |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, i don't either |
| 00:26 | <o_c> | plus i have a website to make.. but i'll try to get something together like next week :) |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 00:29 | <newtroot> | o_c: you made the gant skin? |
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| 00:32 | <fulbert> | is the theme system such that if I wanted to make a 16:9 layout, I could make the text areas wider? |
| 00:34 | <ShockValue> | hrm.. im torn. i have a video card with a DVI output.. Im getting a new TV soon with DVI in... now, the debate is weather or not to get a PVR250 and use the videocard with DVI as output, or a PVR350 for ourput via SVideo |
| 00:34 | <o_c> | newtroot: yes |
| 00:34 | <fulbert> | I'd suggest the dvi if you know your tv can sync to it. |
| 00:35 | <ShockValue> | yeah, im not fond of using svideo output when there are better alternatives |
| 00:35 | <fulbert> | I moved from the svideo out on the nvidia to a dvi and it's a better. |
| 00:35 | <newtroot> | o_c: it's a great theme. thanks. it's the one i am using. |
| 00:36 | <fulbert> | be aware that many sets lock modes (like lock into 16:9) when you use the dvi or vga ports. |
| 00:36 | <fulbert> | you may loose aspect control with a move to dvi is the point. |
| 00:36 | <ShockValue> | hrm |
| 00:36 | <ShockValue> | ill have to verify |
| 00:36 | <thor_> | ... hmmm start a dev channel ... there's a bright idea |
| 00:37 | <o_c> | newtroot: thanks :) |
| 00:37 | <o_c> | hi thor |
| 00:37 | <fulbert> | you also have the option of using a VGA to component converter |
| 00:37 | <o_c> | bye thor |
| 00:37 | o_c | is now known as o_cee\work |
| 00:37 | <tmk> | chutt: released 0.1.9 |
| 00:38 | <o_cee\work> | great news, guess i'll have to try the 350 again :) |
| 00:38 | <tmk> | :) |
| 00:38 | <tmk> | wait till david's patches go into mythtv |
| 00:38 | <o_cee\work> | yeah |
| 00:38 | <tmk> | should make things much nicer |
| 00:38 | <o_cee\work> | :) |
| 00:38 | <o_cee\work> | later all |
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| 00:54 | <pahli_bar> | time to go to sleep. good nite all |
| 00:54 | <thor_> | dream in 3 dimensions |
| 00:55 | <pahli_bar> | heh |
| 00:55 | <pahli_bar> | that will be nightmare |
| 00:55 | <thor_> | an WorldView matrix inversions .... |
| 00:56 | <Chutt> | tmk, great, thanks =) |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | tmk, what was the eventual patch to the vsync stuff? |
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| 01:06 | <DJ_Rican> | how can i remove the lirc module safely? It wants to uninstall all of mythtv if i do... ? |
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| 02:02 | <thor_> | wooo hooo |
| 02:02 | <thor_> | Major improvements for PVR 350 output support. |
| 02:02 | <DJ_Rican> | :) |
| 02:03 | <DJ_Rican> | anyone know why my irw would give me a connection refused? |
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| 02:03 | <HenkPoley> | hi |
| 02:03 | <HenkPoley> | Does anybody here know about the TV-out on the Asus Pundit? |
| 02:04 | <HenkPoley> | I connected it yesterday to my TV and I could only get grayscale |
| 02:04 | <HenkPoley> | Setting PAL (yes I live in Europe) or NTSC in the bios didn't change anything |
| 02:24 | <Chutt> | tmk, david just checked his patch into CVS. |
| 02:24 | <thor_> | I really gotta get me one of those 350's :-) |
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| 02:27 | <Chutt> | they are quite nice |
| 02:27 | <thor_> | so I hear |
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| 02:36 | <tmk> | great thx chutt |
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| 02:50 | <mythtv> | hey |
| 02:51 | <mythtv> | I had a bad harddrive |
| 02:51 | <mythtv> | and I had to reinstall everything :P |
| 02:51 | <mythtv> | oops |
| 02:51 | mythtv | is now known as Ret0 |
| 02:51 | <Ret0> | hehe |
| 02:51 | <Ret0> | but I had a problem apt-get installing mythtv |
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| 02:53 | <Ret0> | after the apt-get when it configures it, it has a bunch of errors |
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| 02:54 | <Ret0> | it says failed to connect to database: Access denied for user : root@localhost (using password: YES) at -e line 5, <> line 1 |
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| 03:11 | <h2odysee> | what database is mc.sql supposed to be inserted into? |
| 03:12 | <h2odysee> | should I CREATE DATABASE mythtv; use mythtv; before I run mc.sql? |
| 03:18 | <thor_> | look at the first line of mc.sql |
| 03:18 | <h2odysee> | CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS recordingprofiles |
| 03:19 | <h2odysee> | the error which i'm trying to fix is |
| 03:19 | <h2odysee> | Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' |
| 03:19 | <h2odysee> | not really sure what i'm doing.. |
| 03:19 | <thor_> | that's not myth, that's your mysql setup |
| 03:19 | <thor_> | mysql -p -u root |
| 03:21 | <h2odysee> | my password should be blank, right? |
| 03:21 | <thor_> | I have no idea, depends how you set mysql |
| 03:22 | <h2odysee> | does mythtv want my root mysql password to be blank? |
| 03:22 | <thor_> | it doesn't care |
| 03:23 | <h2odysee> | any idea what the problem is then? i can access mysql through the console just fine, but mythtv can't seem to access it. |
| 03:23 | <thor_> | mysql -p -u root |
| 03:23 | <thor_> | ? |
| 03:23 | <thor_> | no problems |
| 03:23 | <thor_> | ? |
| 03:23 | <h2odysee> | nope. that works. |
| 03:23 | <thor_> | so why can't you do mysql -p -u root < mc.sql ? |
| 03:24 | <h2odysee> | ERROR 1046 at line 1: No Database Selected |
| 03:24 | <h2odysee> | what's the name of the database supposed to be? mythtv? |
| 03:26 | <thor_> | mythconverg, mc.sql creates that for you .... what mc.sql are you looking at ? |
| 03:26 | <h2odysee> | /usr/share/mythtv/sql/mc.sql |
| 03:27 | <h2odysee> | my problem arose because i installed mythtv before i installed mysql i think. |
| 03:28 | <thor_> | what version of myth ? |
| 03:28 | <thor_> | ... ah ... this is like a debian package or something .... 0.11 or so ? |
| 03:28 | <h2odysee> | yes. debian package. i'm not sure of the version. |
| 03:29 | <h2odysee> | i guess i should get the newest version, and uninstall this one. |
| 03:30 | <thor_> | I dunno, know nothing about Debian, but it's probably not a bad idea |
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| 05:49 | <Desiac> | im trien to build mythtv from the debian packages, i keep gettin the dependency error, requires linux-kernel-headers so i installed kernel-headers.2.4.18 and i still get the error, im using 2.4.24 . wondering if anyone knows which version i should install |
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| 06:17 | <FryGuy> | you need the kernel-headers that correspond with the compiled version of your kernel |
| 06:19 | <Desiac> | using 2.4.24, most recent was 2.4.18 |
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| 06:30 | <nchip> | Desiac: just apt-get build-dep mythtv to get all the build-depencies installed |
| 06:31 | <Desiac> | yeah thats wat im trien to do ;) thats wats giving me the errors |
| 06:31 | <Desiac> | cause i went for .24 not . |
| 06:31 | <nchip> | woody,sid,sarge? |
| 06:31 | <Desiac> | 18 |
| 06:31 | <Desiac> | using woody |
| 06:31 | <Desiac> | trien to figure out howto backport it |
| 06:32 | <nchip> | well I think you are in trouble then |
| 06:32 | <Desiac> | :) |
| 06:32 | <nchip> | for starters you need a more modern qt-x11-free |
| 06:32 | <Desiac> | so u'd suggest going sid? |
| 06:32 | <Desiac> | its pretty stable isin't |
| 06:33 | <nchip> | I think you can just ignore the linux-kernel-headers if you remove the dvb lines from settings.pro |
| 06:33 | <nchip> | and ofcourse delete linux-kernel-headers from debian/control |
| 06:33 | <nchip> | you can probably find a good enough qt package from woody kde backports |
| 06:34 | <Desiac> | yeah running QT3 |
| 06:35 | <nchip> | I use sid at home |
| 06:35 | <nchip> | and woody + backports at work |
| 06:35 | <Desiac> | its prolly worth just upgrading the system, pretty much a clean install |
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| 06:50 | <tv_> | did you guys install mythtv from source or some package? |
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| 07:45 | <Return0> | is there no mythtv-setup for version 0.13? |
| 07:45 | <Return0> | or.. was mythtv-setup just part of the debian package? |
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| 08:50 | <krash314> | Return0: mytvsetup |
| 08:52 | <krash314> | s/mytvsetup/mythtvsetup |
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| 09:48 | <Return0> | i found the setup program in the setup directory. i guess it's been renamed/moved. |
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| 09:48 | <Return0> | anyone have the error "problem reading theme preview image" when trying to run the frontend? |
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| 10:06 | <bdunn13> | WOOT - 48 hours till my mythtv hardware arrives. |
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| 11:03 | <gerhard> | hi there, is someone using tv_grab_se? |
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| 11:06 | <pahli_bar> | ahhh. the quiet in the morning... |
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| 11:09 | <kvandivo> | the calm before the storm... |
| 11:10 | <gerhard> | which storm? |
| 11:13 | <kvandivo> | halle berry |
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| 12:22 | <cuban> | Anyone know why my remote ends would get a "Remote file timeout." error only on my frontends when playing back recordings? |
| 12:22 | <cuban> | er |
| 12:23 | <cuban> | Does anyone know why my frontend would get a "Remote file timeout." message when playing back recordings. LiveTV works fine. |
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| 13:03 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, did you mean to add a couple files in that last commit of yours? |
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| 13:06 | <pahli_bar> | anything missing? |
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| 13:08 | <thor_> | glsingleview.cpp |
| 13:08 | <pahli_bar> | oh crap |
| 13:08 | * | thor_ thinks pahli_bar may have misses a CVS add |
| 13:08 | <Chutt> | and the header =) |
| 13:08 | <pahli_bar> | hang on |
| 13:09 | <pahli_bar> | heh. always a good idea to checkout a fresh copy after big commits |
| 13:09 | <Chutt> | a cvs diff'll show any unknown files |
| 13:10 | <pahli_bar> | done |
| 13:10 | <pahli_bar> | thnx guys |
| 13:10 | <thor_> | ah, that's better |
| 13:13 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: you get a notification as soon as somebody commits? |
| 13:14 | <Chutt> | the commits list |
| 13:14 | <pahli_bar> | ah. i thought it was a once a day phenomenon |
| 13:14 | <thor_> | /usr/local/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmythgallery.so: undefined symbol: _ZTV12GLSingleView |
| 13:14 | <thor_> | wonder what I've done wrong |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | you have it on digest mode? |
| 13:15 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: duh. yes |
| 13:16 | * | pahli_bar fills stupid today |
| 13:16 | <pahli_bar> | heh s/fills/feels |
| 13:16 | <pahli_bar> | now i feel really-really stupid |
| 13:16 | <thor_> | I think this may be another one of those --export-symbols thingies ... checking |
| 13:17 | <pahli_bar> | thor_: maybe a simple make distclean, make install might help |
| 13:18 | <Chutt> | thor, rerun configure? |
| 13:18 | <thor_> | yup |
| 13:18 | <thor_> | that's all it was |
| 13:19 | <pahli_bar> | one caveat with the opengl singleview is that text rendering doesn't work (so no INFO or zoom text) |
| 13:19 | <pahli_bar> | qt opengl and my nvidia setup causes a segfault |
| 13:20 | <pahli_bar> | the only other option brings in X11 dependency |
| 13:26 | <thor_> | leaves an empty directory if there's nothing to import (i.e. cd not mounted) |
| 13:26 | <thor_> | still need a little "hit M for menu" or something |
| 13:26 | <pahli_bar> | thor_: i haven't touched the import code. need to work on it. |
| 13:27 | <pahli_bar> | thor_: will add that (Hit MENU for menu) |
| 13:28 | <pahli_bar> | btw, do we use action names or the default key in the text |
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| 13:28 | <pahli_bar> | like Hit MENU for menu or hit M for menu |
| 13:28 | <thor_> | heh, not sure |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | i'd say 'menu' |
| 13:29 | <Chutt> | or, 'Hit MENU ('m') for the menu' |
| 13:29 | <pahli_bar> | that sounds good. |
| 13:30 | <pahli_bar> | looking at some opengl tutorials. looks like freetype can be used to build fonts. myth has freetype dependency, right? |
| 13:31 | <thor_> | libttf Freetype 2 |
| 13:31 | <thor_> | the opengl stuff is really cool |
| 13:31 | <thor_> | (even on my crappy dev box that is slow as hell) |
| 13:31 | <pahli_bar> | heh. the wonders of opengl |
| 13:32 | <pahli_bar> | i'm sure someone with good opengl skills can improve it a lot. |
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| 13:32 | <pahli_bar> | i just started learning it on friday |
| 13:33 | <thor_> | heh |
| 13:33 | <Chutt> | looks great to me |
| 13:34 | <pahli_bar> | just a few more changes in the thumbnailing routine and it will be ready for testing |
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| 13:37 | <thor_> | key presses during the slide show seem a bit wonky (may just be my really slow video card) |
| 13:38 | <pahli_bar> | thor_: loading and generating textures in opengl is fairly slow |
| 13:38 | <pahli_bar> | compared to qt image -> pixmap |
| 13:38 | <thor_> | yup |
| 13:39 | <pahli_bar> | apart from that, rotation and zoom should be instaneous |
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| 13:44 | <Chutt> | i converted ThemedMenu into a ThemedMenu / ThemedMenuPrivate last night |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | trying to decide if i want to go that way or not, though |
| 13:44 | <pahli_bar> | like a d pointer? |
| 13:45 | <thor_> | don't think I understand what that means ? |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | check out mythmainwindow |
| 13:45 | <thor_> | k |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | all the private stuff's in a separate class in the source, not in the header |
| 13:45 | <thor_> | ahh |
| 13:46 | <Chutt> | so the size of the main class doesn't change if things are added to the private class |
| 13:46 | <pahli_bar> | yeah. a d pointer. some people call it a cheshire cat pointer |
| 13:46 | <Chutt> | lets you keep binary compatability without too much work |
| 13:46 | <thor_> | ahhhhhhhhh ...... |
| 13:46 | <Chutt> | but, messes up the code :p |
| 13:46 | <pahli_bar> | i like it. makes compilation faster also |
| 13:46 | <pahli_bar> | not having to include all those headers |
| 13:47 | <Chutt> | yeah, it does help |
| 13:47 | <pahli_bar> | qt uses it a lot. |
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| 13:48 | <thor_> | well, not really in a position to judge, but I'd be happy to do less distclean's |
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| 15:07 | <o_cee> | pahli_bar: haven't had time to look at your new opengl transitions, but i had an idea while watching tv.. a really cool effect that does something like fade to white while fading the image and fading back to normal before turning entirely white, and there was some blur going on as well.. three effects at the same time i think |
| 15:07 | <o_cee> | looked really sweet |
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| 15:07 | <o_cee\afk> | bbl |
| 15:10 | <pahli_bar> | o_cee\afk: that should be feasible. i can easily mix blend and fade with color additions too |
| 15:10 | <pahli_bar> | o_cee\afk: though i would need a bit more details on this effect you are talking about |
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| 15:47 | <o_cee\afk> | pahli_bar: well.. try just putting three effects at the same time: 1) fade to white (0%->50%->0%) 2) blur (0%->no idea..->0%) 3) image transition, normal fade.. uhm, i saw the effect when watching.. uhm, well, it wasn't really me.. hhehe. Bacholerette :) |
| 15:48 | <o_cee\afk> | away again |
| 15:51 | <thor_> | ooohhh, he's a _senior_ software architect |
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| 15:51 | <rkulagow> | well, that's why he'll work on stuff that doesn't work right now, like 90% of his wish list. |
| 15:52 | <thor_> | looking forward to those patches |
| 15:53 | <rkulagow> | since my wife doesn't want to get me grand theft auto/vice city combo for x-box for my birthday, maybe she'll buy be a MVP instead. |
| 15:59 | <pahli_bar> | o_cee\afk: will try that. |
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| 16:12 | <Netslayer> | this is odd |
| 16:13 | <Netslayer> | on my remote backend/frontend i can watch recordings stores on the master backend perfect, but when i try to watch a recording in progress on the master backend, which is stored in the same dir, it is choppy |
| 16:13 | <hadees> | what is the best version of the nvidia driver to use with mythtv? |
| 16:13 | <Netslayer> | 2nd latest one i think |
| 16:13 | <Netslayer> | 4363 or something |
| 16:14 | <pahli_bar> | 3rd latest one |
| 16:14 | <Netslayer> | prob |
| 16:15 | <Chutt> | there, mythcontext converted over as well |
| 16:15 | <pahli_bar> | d pointers? |
| 16:15 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 16:17 | <Netslayer> | odd watching a prerecorded program streams ~550KB/s to the remote frontend, but watching a program being recorded streams ~650-700. Strange |
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| 16:19 | <Netslayer> | i just stopped the recording, and now it plays fine..wtf |
| 16:20 | <thor_> | you could have just asked the Sr. software engineer to do it |
| 16:22 | <Netslayer> | i lowered the profile and now it's at 1MB/s :-/ |
| 16:23 | <Netslayer> | should have stuck a wire to the box..not to mention i'm on a wireless laptop now heh |
| 16:25 | <Netslayer> | so my understanding is that there is a lot of overhead bandwidth added to programs still being recorded |
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| 16:27 | * | Netslayer chuckles at the soaps on tv now |
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| 16:37 | <Netslayer> | hmm u guys ever have that problem when watching a recording in progress that it will just exit as if it was finished, but it isnt |
| 16:39 | <Netslayer> | prob the latency in the connection |
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| 17:14 | <HenkPoley> | Quick question, (me in Europe) is it possible to enter MHz freq. for the channels for MythTV? |
| 17:15 | <HenkPoley> | aka, do I really need to convert my MHz table by hand to the "europe-west" table? (which would mean tweak values of -100 or so) |
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| 17:33 | <kvandivo> | regarding those major improvements for the pvr350 stuff wrt ivtv 0.1.9 etc etc.. let's hypothesize that i don't have a 350.. does gigem's version checking stuff only exist in the fb code, or am i going to have to upgrade ivtv regardless? |
| 17:33 | <Chutt> | only really matters to the output code |
| 17:33 | <kvandivo> | excellent |
| 17:33 | <Chutt> | but, newer driver is more stable |
| 17:34 | <Chutt> | so, ymmv :p |
| 17:34 | <kvandivo> | ya.. i know i need to do it eventually.. but i can upgrade to mythcvs very easily.. ivtv requires a bit more work.. so, i didn't know if i should hold off on myth until i had time to deal with ivtv at the same time.. |
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| 17:59 | <Netslayer> | can someone quickly explain what the masterbackend override setting in the setup does? i have a slavebackend, does that mean i should set it to record to a local folder and it will move the recordings to the masterbackends dir after they are finished recording? |
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| 18:26 | <rkulagow> | netslayer: the masterbackend override is used when you have a central NFS store for your recordings. normally, the backend that made a recording is the one that would stream it to the frontend. however, if you have backends that come and go, this would be a problem. with the MBO, the master backend will stream if the remote backend isn't available. |
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| 18:37 | <tmk> | how's the new myth cvs + ivtv 0.1.9 stuff working? |
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| 18:40 | <Chutt> | i haven't updated my pvr-350 machine yet |
| 18:40 | <thor_> | i don't have a pvr-350 :-( |
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| 18:47 | <tmk> | but no complaints aside from the guy who didn't update his ivtv? |
| 18:49 | <Netslayer> | rkulagow, cool |
| 18:50 | <Netslayer> | i have it setup now..so after it's done recording on the slave backend to it's local dir it should stream it to the master backend's dir right |
| 18:54 | <Chutt> | tmk, right |
| 18:54 | <Chutt> | netslayer, err, no. |
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| 19:04 | <mchou> | I'm very confused about multiple tuner scheduling logic in myth.... does it now always try to record programs on one tuner (doesn't seem to assign recordings to the second tuner), almost always "overrides" |
| 19:06 | <mchou> | Is that the correct behavior even if the program record setting is "channelrecord?" |
| 19:06 | <tmk> | i think it just goes in order |
| 19:06 | <tmk> | ie if the first one is busy, go to #2 |
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| 19:07 | <mchou> | tmk, no, I doesn't seem to do that on mine...... |
| 19:07 | <mchou> | oops, it* |
| 19:07 | <tmk> | well i don't really know anything :) |
| 19:08 | <mchou> | tmk, dont you hack that part of the code? :) |
| 19:08 | <tmk> | no i wrote ivtv |
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| 19:08 | <mchou> | hey, ok. maybe u can help me out with q on pvr350 then |
| 19:09 | <tmk> | heh |
| 19:09 | <tmk> | that's what #ivtv-dev is for |
| 19:10 | <mchou> | yeah, but I'm here already :). can you use apps like xine to play dvd to the tvout? |
| 19:10 | <tmk> | i wrote a hack for mplayer to do so |
| 19:10 | <tmk> | but it's just a hack |
| 19:10 | <tmk> | as soon as i get yuv output support written |
| 19:11 | <tmk> | a'rpi will write a proper -vo module |
| 19:11 | <tmk> | for mplayer |
| 19:11 | <mchou> | ok but thereticall I can go w/o vga card in system w pvr350? |
| 19:11 | <mchou> | theoretically* |
| 19:11 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 19:11 | <mchou> | X, dvd on tvout.... |
| 19:11 | <tmk> | the framebuffer works as a x display |
| 19:11 | <tmk> | and i've played dvd (hw decoded no less ;) on it |
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| 19:12 | <mchou> | heh, that was my next q....:) |
| 19:12 | <tmk> | it'll take prety much any mpg2 or mpg1 |
| 19:12 | <tmk> | and decode it |
| 19:12 | <mchou> | now that's pretty cool..... |
| 19:12 | <tmk> | :) |
| 19:12 | <tmk> | the tv-out is great too |
| 19:12 | <tmk> | pixel-perfect |
| 19:13 | <mchou> | yeah, chutt told me that. |
| 19:13 | <mchou> | any problems w/ over/underscan? |
| 19:14 | <tmk> | well, it outputs the whole 720x480 |
| 19:15 | <tmk> | so it's up to you to set myth's resolution |
| 19:15 | <tmk> | it'll hang off the screen if you leave it fullscreen |
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| 19:15 | <tmk> | it also records the whole 720x480, so the image on the tv is same as broadcast pretty much |
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| 19:16 | <mchou> | heh, that's good to know..... |
| 19:17 | <mchou> | so what's the reason vbidecode (cc) doesn't work? just haven't got around to it yet, other? |
| 19:17 | <Netslayer> | Chutt, so it just leaves the recordings localy on the slave backend? I just recorded two programs. The masterbackend took the first, the slavebackend took the second and the slave had it's local dir. Now I see two programs in the watch recordings but only the local recording is available to the master backend |
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| 19:19 | <mchou> | tmk, so what's the reason vbidecode (cc) doesn't work? just haven't got around to it yet, or some other reason? |
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| 19:20 | <tmk> | i don't use/need it |
| 19:20 | <tmk> | someone's gotten it to work in the last week |
| 19:20 | <tmk> | he's going to send a patch |
| 19:20 | <mchou> | cool.... |
| 19:21 | <Netslayer> | i guess i can just make a script to move the videos over every night |
| 19:22 | <mchou> | Netslayer: if you have read perms on dir all BE should be able to play remote files..... |
| 19:22 | <mchou> | and frontends too.... |
| 19:23 | <Netslayer> | i'm pretty sure i do |
| 19:23 | <mchou> | as long as backends are up. |
| 19:23 | <Netslayer> | masterbackend has a path /mnt/raid/video, and the slavebackend has a local path /home/chris/video, and has the other one NFS'd |
| 19:23 | <mchou> | no, I think you must be doing s/t "wrong" |
| 19:23 | <Netslayer> | I have master backend override on |
| 19:24 | <mchou> | what is MBE override? |
| 19:24 | <Netslayer> | before I had both set to /mnt/raid/video but the slavebackend is on 54G |
| 19:24 | <Netslayer> | "netslayer: the masterbackend override is used when you have a central NFS store for your recordings. normally, the backend that made a recording is the one that would stream it to the frontend. however, if you have backends that come and go, this would be a problem. with the MBO, the master backend will stream if the remote backend isn't available." |
| 19:24 | <Netslayer> | this is exactly my setup |
| 19:25 | <mchou> | well, I dont have that setup :) |
| 19:25 | <Netslayer> | since the slavebackend is on 54G it looks like having it record to the NFS and playback that live is too much |
| 19:25 | <mchou> | and I have no problems :) |
| 19:25 | <Netslayer> | which is odd cause I can record and playback a recording that has finished recording, there is added overhead when watching something that isn't finished yet |
| 19:26 | <mchou> | no, u should be able to do that unless u're usine wireless. |
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| 19:26 | <mchou> | using* |
| 19:26 | <Netslayer> | do what? |
| 19:26 | <tmk> | pvr streams are 8mbit for example |
| 19:26 | <Netslayer> | oh ya i know |
| 19:26 | <Netslayer> | i'm doing mpeg4 @ 4MB/s |
| 19:26 | <ShockValue> | anyone successfully gotten LIRC to work with 2.6? |
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| 19:26 | <ShockValue> | kernel |
| 19:27 | <mchou> | 4 MB/sec is on hairy edge w/802.11b. you lucky if you can play that..... |
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| 19:27 | <Netslayer> | i'm using 54G, playback is fine, but recording -> masterbackend and playing back the same file live <- is 2x the bandwidth |
| 19:28 | <Netslayer> | but i'm saying it works perfectly if the file is finished recording..it's odd |
| 19:28 | <ChaosExiguum> | Netslayer, maybe your hd is too slow? |
| 19:28 | <Netslayer> | wait it's 4mbps ~ 500KB/s |
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| 19:28 | <mchou> | nfs locking? who knows? :) |
| 19:28 | <Netslayer> | nah |
| 19:29 | <Netslayer> | ok here is what happens |
| 19:29 | <Chutt> | bitch bitch bitch |
| 19:29 | <Chutt> | whine whine whine |
| 19:29 | <Chutt> | moan moan moan |
| 19:29 | <ChaosExiguum> | heh |
| 19:30 | <Netslayer> | slavebackend is recording a show -> NFS -> masterbackend, while the slavebackend's frontend is watching a prerecorded show <- NFS <- masterbackend. This works fine :-) |
| 19:30 | <Netslayer> | i know, it's cause i love mythtv |
| 19:30 | <Chutt> | it's not the bandwidth, it's the latency. |
| 19:30 | <Chutt> | using wireless for this is really dumb. |
| 19:30 | <Netslayer> | prob right :-) |
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| 19:31 | <Netslayer> | but isn't it odd that the above works, but doing the same thing with a recording that is still recording gets choppy |
| 19:31 | <thor_> | but c'mon, walking around the house with TV streaming on your laptop, I mean, how cool is that ? |
| 19:31 | <Netslayer> | ya that impresses people |
| 19:31 | <Chutt> | netslayer, i look forward to your patches. |
| 19:31 | <mchou> | hehe... |
| 19:32 | <mchou> | good luck solving that :) |
| 19:32 | <Netslayer> | :-) |
| 19:32 | <tmk> | Netslayer: just put 2 interfaces on your myth box |
| 19:32 | <tmk> | one for the backend |
| 19:32 | <Netslayer> | interfaces? |
| 19:32 | <tmk> | and one for the wireless |
| 19:32 | <mchou> | myself, I like working on tractable problems, u know? |
| 19:32 | <tmk> | nics |
| 19:33 | <Netslayer> | well it generaly works perfectly except for that one time.. that's why i don't see a point in connecting a cat5 to it |
| 19:33 | <tmk> | or 2 wireless cards :) |
| 19:33 | <Netslayer> | u would also need 2 AP's |
| 19:33 | <tmk> | a wireless card can be an ap |
| 19:33 | <tmk> | in linux |
| 19:33 | <tmk> | i believe |
| 19:33 | <Netslayer> | yup |
| 19:34 | <mchou> | tmk, ur correct. |
| 19:34 | <Netslayer> | still kind of lost as to what the masterbackend override does.. |
| 19:35 | <Netslayer> | is the goal to store files seperatly on each backend, and have both backends stream out to the frontends without moving the files |
| 19:35 | <Chutt> | rkulagow explained it to you |
| 19:38 | <Netslayer> | yup, just that "the master backend will stream if the remote backend isn't available." if we are talking about recordings doesn't that sound like it has a copy of the episode? |
| 19:39 | <tmk> | for NFS (aka shared) video stores |
| 19:39 | <Chutt> | i don't know how to explain it any clearer than that. |
| 19:39 | <Netslayer> | my setup is using NFS on the slave backend |
| 19:39 | <Chutt> | the master will stream the file to the frontend if it can, if that option is set. |
| 19:39 | <Chutt> | it's really fucking simple. |
| 19:40 | <Netslayer> | oh i think i know what u mean |
| 19:40 | <Chutt> | learn how to speak english. |
| 19:40 | <Netslayer> | ya should get out more heh |
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| 19:48 | * | tmk starts compiling mythtv |
| 19:48 | <tmk> | i expect it to finish by the time i get home from work |
| 19:48 | <tmk> | ... tomorrow |
| 19:49 | <mchou> | uh, shouldn't take that long unless u using 386 :) |
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| 19:55 | <blitzoid> | I'm trying to compile mythtv, I followed the guide, and when I do a 'make' on mythtv itself, it fails with a bunch of 'already defined' and 'syntax error' messages when it gets to mythdialogs.h |
| 19:55 | <blitzoid> | Anyone know of a fix for this problem? |
| 20:01 | <Netslayer> | have u tried searching the list for your specific errors |
| 20:02 | <Netslayer> | chances are it will show up there |
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| 21:01 | <Return0> | heya |
| 21:03 | <Return0> | I usually use packages to install mythtv but they were sort of out dated so I decided to compile it, but when I try to run it I get 'Problem reading theme preview image' |
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| 21:06 | <Return0> | ... |
| 21:06 | <Return0> | no ideas? |
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| 21:10 | <dwmurphy> | hey all. quick Q: I'm able to use nuvexport to transcode to SVCDs, but when i try to go to WMVs, ffmpeg seg faults. this is on debian unstable. any ideas? |
| 21:10 | <Return0> | I am having seg faults too |
| 21:10 | <Return0> | dwmurphy did you compile mythtv? |
| 21:11 | <Return0> | I get Problem reading theme preview image |
| 21:11 | <Return0> | seg fault right when I try to start up the frontend |
| 21:11 | <Chutt> | you're mixing packaged and compiled versions. |
| 21:11 | <Chutt> | don't. |
| 21:11 | <dwmurphy> | no.. i'm using the mythtv 0.13 debs. everythign else works. |
| 21:12 | <Chutt> | dwmurphy, i don't think ffmpeg segfaulting has anything to do with mythtv, right? |
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| 21:12 | <Return0> | what do you mean compiled and packaged versions of what? |
| 21:12 | <Chutt> | of mythtv. |
| 21:13 | <Return0> | So... I shouldn't compile mythtv? |
| 21:13 | <Chutt> | not unless you know what you're doing, no. |
| 21:13 | <Chutt> | that's why there's packages. |
| 21:13 | <Return0> | I started with packages using woody |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | there's 0.13 debs for unstable. |
| 21:14 | <Return0> | but my harddrive failed and I thought I'd try testing instead |
| 21:14 | <Return0> | and the deb package for mythtv is a bit out of date isn't it? |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | um |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | 0.13 is the latest released version. |
| 21:15 | <Return0> | one sec... now I'm confused :P |
| 21:15 | <Chutt> | there are debs of 0.13 |
| 21:15 | <Chutt> | 0.13 is the latest version of mythtv |
| 21:15 | <Chutt> | how the fuck is that confusing? |
| 21:15 | <Return0> | lol |
| 21:16 | <Return0> | my roomate has been working on this with me and I believed him when he said the version from the apt-cache was older than the source version |
| 21:16 | <Return0> | I didn't check into it |
| 21:16 | <dwmurphy> | Chutt: no, i don't think so.. but i figured someone else using it the same way might have seen this |
| 21:17 | <Chutt> | dwmurphy, i believe the nuvexport author hasn't touched the wmv output |
| 21:17 | <Chutt> | so, it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't working at all |
| 21:17 | <Return0> | how can I check the version of the mythtv package w/ apt-cache search? |
| 21:18 | <dwmurphy> | Chutt: ok.. the divx one dies too :( |
| 21:18 | <dwmurphy> | i'll bother the #ffmpeg guys :) |
| 21:19 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 21:19 | <Chutt> | it's a nuvexport problem |
| 21:19 | <dwmurphy> | so i'm stuf with SVCD? |
| 21:19 | <dwmurphy> | er.. stuck? |
| 21:19 | <dwmurphy> | if i use nuvexport? |
| 21:21 | <Chutt> | search the mythtv-users archive |
| 21:21 | <Chutt> | i'm sure it's been discussed in detail there. |
| 21:22 | <dwmurphy> | ok. ty |
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| 21:25 | <SuperID> | My program guide displays two lines for every channel. Is there a way to reset this easily? I tried mythfilldatabase. |
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| 21:25 | <Chutt> | you have two program sources? |
| 21:26 | * | Return0 smacks his roomate |
| 21:26 | <Return0> | my roomate likes to dirty up debian w/ source |
| 21:26 | <Return0> | it frustrates me and he convinces me there is no better way |
| 21:27 | <thor_> | I am reminded of an urban legend involving ether |
| 21:27 | <Return0> | we went to unstable so we could get newer version, and then he sets up the mythtv apt-source with woody sources and goes look it's the old version we need to get the source |
| 21:27 | <Return0> | sigh |
| 21:27 | <Return0> | I think I'm gonna reinstall so I have a bunch of crap on here |
| 21:27 | <SuperID> | chutt: no |
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