| --- | Log | opened Mon Jan 12 00:00:55 2004 |
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| 00:49 | <kwenda> | uno question, por favor |
| 00:49 | <kwenda> | i'm trying to play a video with myth video |
| 00:50 | <kwenda> | here's a sample line from videometadata: |
| 00:50 | <kwenda> | | 52 | 715 - Its Christmas in Canada | Unknown | None | NR | 00000000 | 1895 | 0 | 0 | 1 | /spark/715 - Its Christmas in Canada.rm | No Cover | |
| 00:50 | <kwenda> | so as you can see, there is data in the dbase |
| 00:50 | <kwenda> | here is the command that gets run: |
| 00:50 | <kwenda> | /usr/bin/mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv "" |
| 00:51 | <kwenda> | why is it not putting in anything for the filename? |
| 00:52 | <thor_> | Setup --> Video --> Player Settings --> Default Player has a %s in the command line ? |
| 00:52 | <kwenda> | yes it sure does |
| 00:52 | <kwenda> | VideoDefaultPlayer | /usr/bin/mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s | busted |
| 00:52 | <thor_> | host is called busted |
| 00:53 | <thor_> | ? |
| 00:53 | <kwenda> | lol yes |
| 00:53 | <kwenda> | its a laptop with no screen and no keyboard |
| 00:53 | <thor_> | you are trying to play something on a machine with no screen ? |
| 00:54 | <kwenda> | ... i'm using NTSC out to my TV |
| 00:54 | <thor_> | ah |
| 00:54 | <kwenda> | its just called busted because the actual laptop is busted |
| 00:54 | <kwenda> | i doubt that's why it's not behaving correctly though =] |
| 00:55 | <thor_> | hostname is important to gContext->getSetting() |
| 00:55 | <thor_> | hang on, all those all the columns ... what version of myth are you running ? |
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| 00:55 | <thor_> | _are_ those all the columns |
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| 00:56 | <kwenda> | yeah they're the columns |
| 00:56 | <kwenda> | i was running .13... i backed down to .11 to see if that would do anything different |
| 00:56 | <thor_> | that's like version 0.10 or something ? |
| 00:56 | <thor_> | ah |
| 00:56 | <thor_> | sorry .. no idea ... that code is _old_ |
| 00:57 | <kwenda> | i probably should go back up to latest anyway... it's just a PITA because i have to do 5 machines |
| 00:57 | <kwenda> | thanks for looking though =) |
| 00:57 | <thor_> | yup, np |
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| 01:10 | <Netslayer> | hmm wonder if knoppmyth R4 can be used to watch recordings as a frontend to my CVS setup |
| 01:11 | <Netslayer> | prob not cause of all those new db changes in .13 R4's .12 will mess it up..or am i wrong |
| 01:11 | <thor_> | I wouldn't hold out much hope, but there's one way to know for sure :-) |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | the knoppmyth people really need to update stuff. |
| 01:12 | <Netslayer> | heh, ah for the family, don't have myth boxes everywhere, but there are laptops |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | still distributing 0.12 is doing a disservice to people |
| 01:13 | <Netslayer> | there can't be that much difference in .12 to .13 since they have .12 working |
| 01:13 | warlord | is now known as warlord-afk |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | exactly |
| 01:14 | <Netslayer> | ah not worth my time, i tweak mythweb so that it generates me an asx file with all the recordings listed for media player in windows |
| 01:14 | <Netslayer> | it's too hard to convince family to put a dual boot on their laptops |
| 01:14 | <thor_> | patch ? |
| 01:14 | <Netslayer> | heh |
| 01:15 | <Netslayer> | i do it manually but i should make a patch for myself, will learn how when i have time |
| 01:15 | <thor_> | WOO HOOOOO |
| 01:16 | <Netslayer> | 1. make the title of the episodes hyperlinks to the file itself..hardcoded but not hard to figure out i'm sure. 2. I add it to a file, and include all the asx formating |
| 01:16 | <thor_> | (sorry that was me congratulating myself) |
| 01:16 | <Netslayer> | heh np |
| 01:16 | <Netslayer> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=85847;search_string=asx;guest=2017400&t=search_engine#85847 |
| 01:17 | <Netslayer> | k i'm going to try that spdif out now |
| 01:17 | <Netslayer> | and if anyone asks 54G works great with myth :-) |
| 01:18 | <kwenda> | i'll tell you what doesnt work great with myth |
| 01:18 | <kwenda> | recompiling myth while mythbackend is recording 2 streams from 2 bttv cards |
| 01:19 | <Netslayer> | heh |
| 01:19 | <Netslayer> | eekk |
| 01:19 | <thor_> | should be fine on ... say, a quad Opteron box |
| 01:20 | <kwenda> | lol... well my poor p4/1.8 is sucking so much juice that i keep getting these: |
| 01:20 | <kwenda> | Broadcast message from root (Mon Jan 12 00:19:35 2004): |
| 01:20 | <kwenda> | Load Warning! The UPS loads heavily. |
| 01:20 | <Netslayer> | i'm having fun balancing two backends that share the same recording profiles. Ones a 1.33 and the others a 2400 athlon, so i'm really pushing the slower machine with 720x480 mpeg4 @4500kbpx |
| 01:20 | <Netslayer> | what ups do u have? |
| 01:21 | <kwenda> | belkin... something |
| 01:21 | <kwenda> | its at the bottom of my rack, i'd have to dig under there to see the model numbers of them |
| 01:21 | <Netslayer> | should try to get that to work |
| 01:21 | <kwenda> | http://www.kylewenda.com/pics/rackcrap.jpg |
| 01:21 | <Netslayer> | remember the name of the software? |
| 01:21 | <kwenda> | my backend and one of my frontend is in there |
| 01:21 | <Netslayer> | wow |
| 01:22 | <Netslayer> | that's a tight fit heh |
| 01:22 | <kwenda> | heh yeah... i hardly watch anything on that one though |
| 01:22 | <kwenda> | i usually watch on the frontend in the livingroom on a 35" tv |
| 01:23 | <thor_> | 'dem switches look like Cisco's (too loud to hear anything in that room anyway) |
| 01:23 | <kwenda> | they're baystacks, thor_ |
| 01:23 | <kwenda> | i'm using three of them as shelves |
| 01:24 | <kwenda> | on the one i'm acually using i disconnected the fans inside of it |
| 01:24 | <kwenda> | it was LOUD |
| 01:24 | <thor_> | yup |
| 01:24 | <kwenda> | but if it dies... i've got 3 more ;) |
| 01:25 | <Netslayer> | SPDIF IS WORKINHG |
| 01:25 | <Netslayer> | SWEET!!!!! |
| 01:25 | <Netslayer> | oh wait |
| 01:26 | <Netslayer> | that's my tv errr :-/ |
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| 01:31 | <Netslayer> | guess i need to setup a .asoundrc file |
| 01:31 | <captbunzo> | grrr. |
| 01:31 | <captbunzo> | anyone here that has the Hauppauge PVR-250 remote control working? |
| 01:33 | <Chutt> | ivtv docs mention how to get it working |
| 01:34 | <captbunzo> | ah, another place to look. :) |
| 01:34 | <captbunzo> | I'll check there now then. |
| 01:34 | <captbunzo> | the instructions in section 22 of the mythtv docs didn't work. |
| 01:35 | <captbunzo> | probably something simple. |
| 01:37 | <captbunzo> | Chutt: can you point me somewhere specific? |
| 01:38 | <Netslayer> | mplayer "MMX supported but disabled" oh that's nice |
| 01:40 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 01:40 | <Chutt> | you can look through the ivtv docs, or i can |
| 01:40 | <Chutt> | which do you think i'd prefer? :p |
| 01:40 | <Netslayer> | heh |
| 01:41 | <thor_> | excellent ... daapclient is working |
| 01:41 | <Netslayer> | hey thor can u post your /home/../.asoundrc file? |
| 01:42 | <thor_> | uhm ... let me see .... |
| 01:42 | <thor_> | I dunno got one |
| 01:42 | <Netslayer> | interesting and spdif out works for u |
| 01:43 | <Netslayer> | gentoo? |
| 01:43 | <thor_> | I have an /etc/asound.state |
| 01:43 | <thor_> | (set this up a long time ago, alsa is 0.9.6 |
| 01:43 | <thor_> | ) |
| 01:43 | <Netslayer> | i think that's your cards features, and settings |
| 01:43 | <Netslayer> | i'll figure it out, thx |
| 01:43 | <thor_> | yup |
| 01:43 | <Netslayer> | u running 2.4 series right |
| 01:44 | <thor_> | on that box, 2.4.20 slackware |
| 01:50 | <Netslayer> | which /dev/ are u playing back on /dev/dsp, adsp? |
| 01:51 | <Netslayer> | dang i'm stupid |
| 01:51 | <Netslayer> | didn't have the mplayer flag set, now mplayer works! now for myth |
| 01:52 | <thor_> | I have /dev/dsp and "Enable AC3 to SPDIF passthrough" is NOT checked |
| 01:52 | <kwenda> | In file included from NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp:18: |
| 01:52 | <kwenda> | NuppelVideoRecorder.h:15:23: lame/lame.h: No such file or directory |
| 01:52 | <kwenda> | *sigh* |
| 01:52 | * | Netslayer endulges in digital sound |
| 01:52 | <Netslayer> | huh |
| 01:53 | <thor_> | as per README, you need lame (-devel if that's what your distribution calls things you can build against) |
| 01:54 | <Netslayer> | must have lame in here, not sure about devel |
| 01:54 | <Netslayer> | 3.93.1-r1, and ya mplayer works great..hey does that mean it will do ac3 pass through |
| 01:54 | * | Netslayer goes to configure mythvideo |
| 01:55 | <thor_> | Netslayer, that was to kwenda |
| 01:55 | <Netslayer> | heh |
| 01:59 | <kwenda> | thor_, i figured that - just something new to trip me up |
| 01:59 | <kwenda> | i wasn't asking for help, i was just sighing ;) |
| 01:59 | <thor_> | ah |
| 02:01 | <kwenda> | it didnt used to -require- it if you were only using it as a frontend i guess |
| 02:02 | <Chutt> | yes it did |
| 02:02 | <captbunzo> | grrr... |
| 02:02 | <captbunzo> | no luck!!!1 |
| 02:03 | <kwenda> | i wonder how the heck i built it in the first place then |
| 02:04 | <Chutt> | the lame library's been a requirement since the very first release |
| 02:04 | <kwenda> | lame is on my backend... but it's on none of my 5 frontends =/ |
| 02:05 | <kwenda> | not that i don't believe you |
| 02:05 | <kwenda> | i wonder if i did something so stupid as to have just copied the binaries over instead of building it the first time |
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| 02:06 | <captbunzo> | is there anyone around here with a working PVR-250 Remote Control/MythTV Setup? |
| 02:06 | <captbunzo> | I need help, please! |
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| 02:16 | <captbunzo> | actually, I have a better question. |
| 02:16 | <captbunzo> | who here is using lirc to use a remote control with mythtv? |
| 02:17 | <captbunzo> | or, at least, who knows how it works. |
| 02:17 | <captbunzo> | lirc itself seems to be working properly - the irw test yields good irc signals. |
| 02:17 | <captbunzo> | however, somehow or another the connection isn't being made to myth. |
| 02:17 | <captbunzo> | that's the part I am lost on. |
| 02:17 | <captbunzo> | any suggestions? |
| 02:18 | <kwenda> | captbunzo, are you using builtin lirc support |
| 02:18 | <kwenda> | or irxevent |
| 02:18 | <Netslayer> | thor it all works, thx for your advice :-) had to unmute the output in alsamixer |
| 02:18 | <captbunzo> | well, I believe builtin. |
| 02:19 | <captbunzo> | yeah, definately builtin support. |
| 02:19 | <thor_> | Netslayer, cool |
| 02:19 | <kwenda> | did you build mytg with support |
| 02:20 | <Netslayer> | i'm trying to figure out if ac3 pass through is actually working with mythvideo, but i love this..no more interfearance :-) |
| 02:21 | <captbunzo> | well, I installed the debian packages at marillat.free.fr |
| 02:21 | <thor_> | man mplayer, something about hw ac3, and put an extra comma on the end |
| 02:21 | <captbunzo> | kwenda: is there a way to check what was compiled into myth? |
| 02:21 | <thor_> | captbunzo, it is extremely unlikely that a prebuilt package will have native lirc support compiled in |
| 02:22 | <thor_> | see man irxevent |
| 02:22 | <kwenda> | captbunzo, thor is right |
| 02:22 | <kwenda> | you will want to use irxevent to pass your signals to myth |
| 02:22 | <captbunzo> | well, that'd suck. |
| 02:22 | <captbunzo> | I assume compiling myth is pretty easy? |
| 02:22 | <Chutt> | just use irxevent. |
| 02:22 | <Chutt> | works just as well |
| 02:22 | <captbunzo> | how do I configure that? |
| 02:23 | <captbunzo> | i.e. where do I find instructions? |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | that's all in the mythtv docs, there's an example config or two in contrib/ |
| 02:23 | <thor_> | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-8.html |
| 02:23 | <captbunzo> | yep, just read it/. |
| 02:23 | <captbunzo> | looks like all I need to do is hit go. |
| 02:24 | <kwenda> | Chutt, i figured it out - the 5 frontends i had always installed packages on - the only one i built from scratch was the backend ... so i never needed lame before |
| 02:24 | <thor_> | never needed lame-dev |
| 02:25 | <captbunzo> | well that didn't work! |
| 02:26 | <kwenda> | indeed |
| 02:29 | <Netslayer> | wow mplayer has a lot of options |
| 02:29 | <thor_> | do /ac3 in man mplayer |
| 02:29 | <captbunzo> | any clue why irw would return codes, byt irxevent would do nothing? |
| 02:30 | <Netslayer> | this apparently is ac3, going to try it: -format 1024 |
| 02:31 | <captbunzo> | when I run irw and hit the "TV" button, I get "000000000000100f 00 TV Hauppauge" |
| 02:31 | <thor_> | Netslayer, you want: -ac hwac3,a52, |
| 02:31 | <Netslayer> | oh thx |
| 02:31 | <captbunzo> | would the button name for that be "TV" or "TV Hauppauge" |
| 02:31 | <captbunzo> | ? |
| 02:32 | <thor_> | whatever the hell you called it in lircd.conf |
| 02:34 | <captbunzo> | ah :) |
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| 02:42 | <captbunzo> | woohoo, success. |
| 02:42 | <captbunzo> | badly setup .lircrc |
| 02:42 | <captbunzo> | so, let me get this straight. |
| 02:42 | <captbunzo> | if I get everything working with myth via irxevent. |
| 02:43 | <captbunzo> | than I recompile with lirc support builtin. |
| 02:43 | <captbunzo> | all I should have to do is copy my .lircrc to /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc |
| 02:43 | <captbunzo> | and switch the irxevent parts to mythtv. |
| 02:43 | <captbunzo> | eh? |
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| 02:44 | <kwenda> | DAMN... 1.1 gigs/15 minutes |
| 02:44 | <kwenda> | .13 does NOT carry over recording profiles |
| 02:44 | <kwenda> | =] |
| 02:44 | <thor_> | dunno, I've never compiled native lirc for myth |
| 02:44 | <captbunzo> | well, I suppose so. |
| 02:44 | <captbunzo> | btw. |
| 02:45 | <captbunzo> | how does commercial skip work? |
| 02:46 | <thor_> | http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/mythtv/libs/libmythtv/commercial_skip.cpp?content-type=text%2Fplain&rev=1.21 |
| 02:46 | <Netslayer> | ic my dolby digital light lighting up thor! :-) |
| 02:47 | <captbunzo> | hehe - cool. :) |
| 02:47 | <thor_> | it's a nice little glow |
| 02:48 | <captbunzo> | now, how do you activate it within MythTV? |
| 02:48 | <captbunzo> | Commerical Skip, that is? |
| 02:48 | <thor_> | Setup |
| 02:49 | <kwenda> | okay thor_ |
| 02:49 | <kwenda> | i'm still having the problem of the blank filenames |
| 02:49 | <kwenda> | after upgrading all boxen to .13 |
| 02:49 | * | Netslayer jumps for joy as he hears surround sound working for the first time in linux |
| 02:49 | <thor_> | in mythvideo ? |
| 02:50 | * | Netslayer nods |
| 02:50 | <kwenda> | yes sir |
| 02:51 | <thor_> | ok, but if we figure this out, then you and captbunzo and Netslayer all have to make a donation to the EFF _tomorrow_ ... |
| 02:51 | <Netslayer> | EFF? heh |
| 02:52 | <thor_> | kwenda, this on all files, or just some? |
| 02:54 | <kwenda> | all thor_ |
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| 02:55 | <thor_> | both from browse and list ? |
| 02:55 | <kwenda> | yes sir |
| 02:55 | <kwenda> | from browse i get the 'loading' screen for a split second when i hit play |
| 02:55 | <captbunzo> | woohoo. |
| 02:55 | <kwenda> | while its tryign to run mplayer with "" for a filename |
| 02:55 | <captbunzo> | found it - pretty awesome! :) |
| 02:56 | <captbunzo> | even got non-interlaced mode to work! :) |
| 02:56 | <thor_> | go into videotree.cpp, around line 574 and uncomment the cout line |
| 02:56 | <thor_> | (sorry, you know anything about C/C++?) |
| 02:56 | <kwenda> | no... i do know the wife is going to set me aflame in a minute |
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| 02:57 | <kwenda> | so i believe i'll work on this tomorrow |
| 02:57 | <thor_> | k |
| 02:57 | <kwenda> | thanks for the help today though |
| 02:57 | <thor_> | yup |
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| 03:03 | <captbunzo> | thansk for the pointers, night all. |
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| 03:03 | <hardwired> | g'morning |
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| 03:21 | <Netslayer> | next thing on my list :-) |
| 03:22 | <Netslayer> | anyone know what would cause image tearing in X? mythtv, mplayer, etc all video playback tears if there is a lot of movement, there is like one spot on the screen where in a lot of motion the image very quickly is torn like it's teared |
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| 03:23 | <Netslayer> | it's happening on two of my machines, with agp geforce 4 mx 440 cards, same drivers, gentoo, fluxbox, etc |
| 03:39 | <mchou> | anybody having problems compiling mythgallery sucessfully from tonight's cvs? |
| 03:41 | <godless> | having problems with mythtv, using a ivtv chip, mplayer /dev/video gives me video but if I run mythtv - watch tv I get a black screen |
| 03:41 | <godless> | could taht be because I don't have a xmltv list ? |
| 03:42 | <godless> | also are there belgian xmltv lists ? |
| 03:43 | <DJ_Rican> | how can i find what a movie's imdb# is? |
| 03:44 | <Netslayer> | i figured it out! it was twinview, it causes tearing |
| 03:44 | <Netslayer> | :-) |
| 03:52 | <DJ_Rican> | how can i find what a movie's imdb# is? |
| 03:53 | <DJ_Rican> | after i ripped the dvd, it can't find it on imdb! |
| 04:04 | <Netslayer> | go to the website and type in the movie, the imdb # is the last part of the url |
| 04:04 | <Netslayer> | think that's broken right now |
| 04:06 | <DJ_Rican> | ah... ok thx |
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| 04:15 | <StuartL> | Morning. |
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| 05:46 | <godless> | can someone maybe help me to get xmltv listings/xawtvrc file for belgium ? using a ivtv capture card |
| 05:46 | <godless> | starting mythtv watchtv I get a blank screen |
| 06:05 | <godless> | anyone know a good site to get xml tv listings (xmltv) for europe belgium |
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| 06:25 | <StuartL> | godless: Do the ivtv tests in the faq (the video0 and video16 test) work? |
| 06:25 | <godless> | yes |
| 06:25 | <godless> | I can get a picture, static and channels |
| 06:26 | <StuartL> | Can you play them back through the decoder? |
| 06:26 | <godless> | heh could you give the test faq again ? |
| 06:27 | <godless> | better make sure :) |
| 06:29 | <StuartL> | Ok, run a 'cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/capture.mpg' and prove that you can play that mpg file fine. |
| 06:29 | <StuartL> | 5 seconds of capture should be enough. |
| 06:29 | <godless> | brb |
| 06:30 | <StuartL> | Then run 'cat /tmp/capture.mpg > /dev/video16'. |
| 06:30 | <StuartL> | You may need to run 'ivtvfbctl -localalpha' to be able to view it and 'ivtvfbctl -globalalpha' to get Myth back again. |
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| 06:32 | <godless> | hmm |
| 06:32 | <godless> | isn't video16 the tv out ? |
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| 06:36 | <godless> | hmm I can't get 'cat /tmp/capture.mpg > /dev/video16' |
| 06:36 | <godless> | to work and also the ivtvfbctl says no file dir |
| 06:36 | <godless> | wich device should I give ivtvfbctl ? |
| 06:37 | <godless> | I'm using a pal pvr350 |
| 06:38 | <StuartL> | Are you using the TV out on the PVR? |
| 06:38 | <godless> | no |
| 06:38 | <godless> | I'm not using that, no tv |
| 06:38 | <StuartL> | Ah, you're playing back on the monitor? |
| 06:38 | <godless> | doing an mplayer /dev/video0 gives me picture and sound though |
| 06:38 | <godless> | yes |
| 06:39 | <StuartL> | Right, you need to configure MythTV so that your monitor is the output device. |
| 06:39 | <StuartL> | And I don't know how to do that :) |
| 06:39 | <godless> | and how do I do that ? |
| 06:39 | <godless> | :) |
| 06:40 | <fayep> | godless: turn off PVR350 output |
| 06:40 | <StuartL> | Mailing lists :) |
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| 06:40 | <fayep> | setup/tv/playback |
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| 06:41 | <godless> | hmm I already did that |
| 06:41 | <godless> | going to double check :) |
| 06:42 | <fayep> | godless, video16 only does TV out |
| 06:42 | <fayep> | you don't have a tv so nothing is wrong :) |
| 06:43 | <godless> | :) |
| 06:43 | <fayep> | also ivtvfbctl is just for tv out |
| 06:43 | * | StuartL noddles. |
| 06:43 | <StuartL> | I got that bit, just never tried Myth on a monitor... |
| 06:43 | <godless> | am I correct in that I can output to video16 and still tune/view on monitor from video0 ? |
| 06:44 | <godless> | fayep : I thought so, only at it for 6 hours :) |
| 06:44 | <fayep> | godless: you can output to video16 but you won' t see anything if there's no tv attached to the pvr350 |
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| 06:45 | <return0> | heya |
| 06:46 | <godless> | but still when I try mplayer to view tv I still get a black screen |
| 06:46 | <godless> | I double checked the 350 output thingy :) |
| 06:46 | <godless> | could it be because I don't have a tv list ? |
| 06:46 | <godless> | or shouldn't I get the last tuned channel ? |
| 06:46 | <fayep> | godless: use ivtv/utils/test_ioctl -p4 |
| 06:47 | <fayep> | it's probably showing svideo input or something |
| 06:47 | <godless> | hmm I can tune in mplayer |
| 06:47 | <fayep> | ? |
| 06:48 | <godless> | :) |
| 06:48 | <godless> | strange but true |
| 06:48 | <fayep> | so you can get a picture in mplayer? |
| 06:48 | <godless> | still black screen in mythtv |
| 06:49 | <godless> | yes |
| 06:49 | <godless> | mplayer works marvelous |
| 06:49 | <fayep> | mythtv will be setting the input to the one you specified in setup |
| 06:49 | <godless> | I even stopped the jittering etc |
| 06:49 | <fayep> | "default input" |
| 06:49 | <godless> | hmm, the mythtv-setup no ? |
| 06:49 | <fayep> | yup |
| 06:49 | <godless> | well I think that's ok |
| 06:50 | <fayep> | should be television IIRC |
| 06:50 | <godless> | no |
| 06:50 | <godless> | "tuner 0" here |
| 06:50 | <fayep> | ah ok |
| 06:50 | <fayep> | I use svideo |
| 06:50 | <godless> | :) |
| 06:50 | <godless> | well I just want to get mythtv working :) |
| 06:50 | <godless> | so I can build one as a present |
| 06:50 | <fayep> | good luck with that :) |
| 06:51 | <godless> | :) |
| 06:51 | <fayep> | ok, have you imported tv data? |
| 06:51 | <godless> | well I got mplayer working so maybe I could spend time writing lirc scripts |
| 06:51 | <godless> | :) |
| 06:51 | <godless> | no |
| 06:51 | <godless> | I have a big problem getting tv data |
| 06:51 | <godless> | I live in belgium Europe |
| 06:52 | <godless> | and scantv doesn't work |
| 06:52 | <fayep> | ah |
| 06:52 | <fayep> | scantv? |
| 06:52 | <godless> | I had a bttv card :) |
| 06:52 | <fayep> | http://membled.com/work/apps/xmltv/ |
| 06:52 | <fayep> | says that a new grabber is being worked on for belgium |
| 06:53 | <godless> | yeah |
| 06:53 | <godless> | I looked into that |
| 06:55 | <fayep> | myth isn't going to work until you have some channels and their xawtv channel number |
| 06:56 | <godless> | could you give me your's ? as a base to work on |
| 06:56 | <godless> | 2 examples should do it :) |
| 06:56 | <godless> | post in /flood please |
| 06:56 | <godless> | #flood :) |
| 06:58 | <fayep> | my box is out of action atm, partner put windows on it, need to put linux back on |
| 06:58 | <godless> | :) |
| 06:58 | <fayep> | why don't you just get xmltv and do a grab yourself for somewhere near |
| 06:58 | <godless> | I tried |
| 06:58 | <fayep> | you can put it in a file and import manually |
| 06:59 | <return0> | hey guys... I'm having issues getting my hardware setup. I'm using debian. I got a winfast tuner which if I take the sticker off says phillips and the lspci says bt878 rev 11 |
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| 06:59 | <return0> | I started with the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel and it didn't have alsa so I went to 2.4.24 |
| 07:00 | <return0> | but compiled it myself |
| 07:00 | <return0> | I load up bttv and I can tune a picture but I can |
| 07:00 | <return0> | can't get sounds working |
| 07:01 | <return0> | I have the speakers hooked up to the output of the tuner card right now and I don |
| 07:01 | <return0> | don't get any sound |
| 07:02 | <fayep> | isn't there a btaudio mixer device or something? not too familiar with the non-pvr cards |
| 07:02 | <godless> | hmm, maybe it's muted ? |
| 07:03 | <godless> | also try unloading all the other modules, and maybe try to do a "insmod bttv card=xx" |
| 07:03 | <return0> | I think it's card 2 or 10 |
| 07:03 | <godless> | xx is the nr coresponding to you're card, you can find more info in the docs |
| 07:03 | <godless> | kernel doc's |
| 07:03 | <fayep> | are you in a pal region return0? |
| 07:04 | <return0> | but I've been doing rmmod bttv and modprobe bttv card=xx tuner=yy many times |
| 07:04 | <return0> | no |
| 07:04 | <return0> | ntsc |
| 07:04 | <fayep> | bcos different versions of pal put the audio in a different place. think ntsc is all one place though |
| 07:04 | <return0> | it's not muted |
| 07:04 | tattrdkat | is now known as virsys |
| 07:05 | <return0> | one thing that's frustrating is xawtv always starts in pal europe |
| 07:05 | <return0> | or something |
| 07:05 | <return0> | I have to change it to us-cable / ntsc every time I run it |
| 07:05 | <return0> | I figure I should get sound directly from the tuner before I try to fix the main sound |
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| 07:09 | <fayep> | have you googled for your card linux and sound? |
| 07:09 | <return0> | well I know what drivers it is supposedly (The sound card) but I wanted to get the tuner working first |
| 07:09 | <return0> | so no I haven't |
| 07:10 | <fayep> | if you google for your TV card linux and sound, it may tell you about what you need to get sound out of the TV card |
| 07:10 | <return0> | I'm not entirely clear what tuner / card I have I just know it's bttv :P |
| 07:10 | <fayep> | not talking about sound card |
| 07:10 | <fayep> | ah |
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| 07:10 | <return0> | errr |
| 07:10 | <return0> | bt878 rather |
| 07:10 | <godless> | return0 : the kernel/docs/bttv has a list with the name etc |
| 07:11 | <godless> | cardlist if I'm not mistaken |
| 07:11 | <return0> | yea... thanks godless I'm reading it right now |
| 07:11 | <godless> | :) |
| 07:11 | <fayep> | look for "Winfast" cards |
| 07:11 | <godless> | bah sourceforge is down |
| 07:11 | <return0> | ahh cool |
| 07:14 | <return0> | so I have a winfast2000 XP which is listed under leadtek |
| 07:15 | <godless> | :) |
| 07:16 | <return0> | where do I see what card ## to use for the leadtek? |
| 07:16 | <godless> | there is a file calles CARDLIST, the list is numbered :) |
| 07:17 | <return0> | sweet |
| 07:17 | <return0> | I just found sound-faq too |
| 07:17 | <return0> | I wish I thought of looking there before asking here :P |
| 07:17 | <return0> | thanks for you help by the way |
| 07:18 | <godless> | np |
| 07:18 | <godless> | glad to be of service |
| 07:18 | <return0> | sweeet |
| 07:18 | <return0> | SOUND |
| 07:19 | <fayep> | hehe |
| 07:19 | <godless> | :) |
| 07:20 | <return0> | now if I got an accurate tuner value :) |
| 07:20 | <return0> | the Tuners doc is a little confusing |
| 07:21 | <godless> | hmm |
| 07:22 | <return0> | nm |
| 07:23 | <godless> | anyone here from europe ? |
| 07:23 | <fayep> | yup. uk |
| 07:23 | <godless> | :) |
| 07:23 | <godless> | I may be having some success with the tv_grap_be_tvb thingy |
| 07:24 | <fayep> | excellent |
| 07:24 | <godless> | it's running and eating cycles |
| 07:24 | <godless> | just hope it ain't burning :) |
| 07:25 | <fayep> | they take time - one of the uk ones takes several hours - it's not very good |
| 07:25 | <godless> | ah |
| 07:25 | <godless> | hehe then I shoudn't be woried :) |
| 07:25 | <godless> | hehe |
| 07:25 | <godless> | I have a good feeling |
| 07:25 | <godless> | butterflies in my stomach |
| 07:25 | <godless> | it's love :) |
| 07:25 | <fayep> | lol |
| 07:25 | <godless> | btw mythtv is really looking good :) |
| 07:26 | <fayep> | yup, I am using myth with a DVB-t card and PVR350 video out atm and it's great |
| 07:26 | <godless> | :) |
| 07:26 | <fayep> | shame the PVR card stops recording if you use the TVout for framebuffer |
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| 07:27 | <godless> | well it's pretty cheap :) |
| 07:27 | <return0> | girls gone wild commercial |
| 07:27 | <return0> | it works! |
| 07:27 | <godless> | hehe |
| 07:27 | <fayep> | return0 is a happy bunny |
| 07:27 | <return0> | "you've never seen a girls gone wild video like this one" |
| 07:27 | <return0> | even the sound works |
| 07:27 | <godless> | :) |
| 07:27 | <fayep> | now to get your soundcard working |
| 07:28 | <return0> | yeah :) |
| 07:28 | <return0> | ok about that... |
| 07:29 | <return0> | at one point it was playing a single sample |
| 07:29 | <return0> | the type of thing you hear when you computer crashes and the sound repeats the last sample |
| 07:29 | <fayep> | right |
| 07:29 | <return0> | does xmms work with alsa btw? |
| 07:30 | <fayep> | not sure, definitely work with oss emulation though |
| 07:30 | <return0> | ok moving speakers to the sound card :P |
| 07:31 | <fayep> | and plugging tv card into line input |
| 07:31 | <return0> | is that necessary btw? |
| 07:31 | <return0> | is that how it records? |
| 07:31 | <fayep> | that's usually how it works |
| 07:32 | <return0> | I was thinking the tuner card did the encoding |
| 07:32 | <return0> | errr |
| 07:32 | <fayep> | well the PVRx50 cards do, but they output mpeg2, not video frames |
| 07:33 | <fayep> | with normal capture cards, the sound is captured by the soundcard, the video by the tv card and the encoding is done on the PC |
| 07:35 | <return0> | By golly I found the original tuner to sound card cable |
| 07:35 | <fayep> | you're on a roll now |
| 07:36 | <return0> | hehe |
| 07:37 | <return0> | where to start... |
| 07:38 | * | return0 ponders |
| 07:38 | <godless> | :) |
| 07:39 | <return0> | there is a bt878 driver in the sound category of the kernel |
| 07:40 | <return0> | which says it gives me a oss-compatable dsp device I can record from |
| 07:40 | <return0> | does this mean it records from the encoder card and not from the line in on the sound card? |
| 07:41 | <fayep> | if it works, that certainly sounds like what it does |
| 07:42 | <return0> | I'm not very formiliar with alsa |
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| 07:43 | <return0> | my roomate was frustrated that I was working on the box and he couldn't do anything so he ssh'ed in and started installing stuff at the same time |
| 07:43 | <return0> | to make things frustrating for me |
| 07:43 | <return0> | the sound didn't work even before I attempted alsa |
| 07:43 | <return0> | in fact that's when it did that repeating sample thing |
| 07:44 | <return0> | Supposedly I know which driver it is in the kernel (Via 82c686) |
| 07:45 | <return0> | does alsa want this driver in the form of a module or does it matter? |
| 07:45 | <fayep> | alsa is normally done with modules, |
| 07:45 | <return0> | I think we might not be talking about the same module |
| 07:46 | <return0> | I mean the sound card driver itself |
| 07:46 | <return0> | not the alsa driver |
| 07:46 | <return0> | or is that the same thing? |
| 07:46 | <fayep> | one of the alsa modules is the sound card driver |
| 07:46 | <return0> | oooh |
| 07:47 | <return0> | so should I remove the sound driver from the kernel? |
| 07:47 | <StuartL> | That's a good point. I don't know if I've done the alsa stuff yet... |
| 07:47 | <fayep> | I usually build all of the sound stuff as a module |
| 07:47 | <return0> | k |
| 07:47 | <return0> | so what about the oss sound module |
| 07:48 | <return0> | this is probably not what I think it is actually. |
| 07:48 | <fayep> | snd_oss_pcm ? |
| 07:48 | <return0> | sound.o :P |
| 07:48 | <fayep> | you want sound.o as a module still I think |
| 07:48 | <StuartL> | Does ALSA use /dev/dsp? |
| 07:48 | <fayep> | or you don't get oss compatibility |
| 07:48 | <StuartL> | Cos I know /dev/dsp works... |
| 07:48 | <fayep> | oss and alsa use /dev/dsp |
| 07:49 | <StuartL> | Coolio, so setting up ALSA should now be a piece of cake. |
| 07:49 | <return0> | so is oss what is used if alsa is not? |
| 07:49 | <fayep> | yes |
| 07:50 | <return0> | one last thing in this sound catagory |
| 07:50 | <return0> | there's a TV card (bt848 |
| 07:50 | <return0> | mixer support |
| 07:51 | <fayep> | you can try it. not sure it works for your card |
| 07:52 | <return0> | yeah I have bt878 I have no idea if that works for all the bt cards or what |
| 07:52 | <return0> | I guess I'll just make the module :P |
| 07:53 | <return0> | so my roomate compiled the alsa source since we couldn't get a deb for the right kernel version ... |
| 07:53 | <return0> | and that adds a kernel module I presume? |
| 07:54 | <fayep> | I think it adds all the modules, including soundcard driver |
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| 07:57 | <return0> | but since I just recompiled my kernel I'm thinking I'll have to recompile alsa |
| 07:58 | <return0> | because I probably just overwrote the modules.conf |
| 07:58 | <return0> | I don't know I'm still a newbie |
| 07:58 | <return0> | :P |
| 07:58 | <fayep> | yup |
| 08:01 | <return0> | oh well I have no idea what's going on there so I'll just go for a ./configure, make, make install |
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| 08:02 | <return0> | interesting ... |
| 08:02 | <return0> | aparantly it compiled all of the sound card drivers. just like you said x.x |
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| 08:11 | <return0> | hrmmmm |
| 08:11 | <return0> | am I supposed to do something to modules.conf manually? |
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| 08:12 | <godless> | no, unless you want to add modules, it depends on what state it's in :) |
| 08:13 | <return0> | well I compiled alsa |
| 08:13 | <return0> | and did make install |
| 08:13 | <return0> | and I have no idea what that did really :P |
| 08:18 | <godless> | did you load the also modules |
| 08:18 | <return0> | just now I tried something like that |
| 08:18 | <godless> | modprobe alsa-snd-oss etc or something |
| 08:18 | <return0> | I did modprobe snd-card-via8233 |
| 08:18 | <godless> | well :) |
| 08:18 | <return0> | and modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 08:19 | <godless> | ah yes |
| 08:19 | <godless> | :) |
| 08:19 | <godless> | heh |
| 08:19 | <godless> | no sound ? |
| 08:19 | <return0> | not really |
| 08:19 | <godless> | alsa is usually muted |
| 08:19 | <godless> | run alsamixer |
| 08:19 | <godless> | also do you have access to the /dev/xxx ? |
| 08:19 | <return0> | I'm root atm |
| 08:19 | <godless> | so you have access :) |
| 08:19 | <return0> | ya |
| 08:20 | <godless> | and the alsamixer ? |
| 08:20 | <return0> | ok I actually already tried that |
| 08:20 | <return0> | alsamixer-0.5 |
| 08:20 | <return0> | and I turned stuff up |
| 08:20 | <return0> | and unmuted everything |
| 08:20 | <return0> | but nothing |
| 08:20 | <godless> | ah |
| 08:20 | <return0> | and here's something weird |
| 08:20 | <godless> | did you connect the tv-out to line-in ? |
| 08:21 | <godless> | audio that is |
| 08:21 | <godless> | do tell |
| 08:21 | <return0> | yesterday when I tested the sound with xmms it blasted really loud that one repeating sample from the first part of a song |
| 08:21 | <return0> | and so I hit the volume control on the xmms |
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| 08:21 | <return0> | and my roomate was ssh'd in using the alsa mixer |
| 08:22 | <return0> | and he showed me how when I moved that volume control it changed it on his screen |
| 08:22 | <return0> | in the mixer |
| 08:22 | <return0> | but now |
| 08:22 | <return0> | I had turned everything up and unmuted all of ti |
| 08:22 | <return0> | but when I load xmms I hear no sound and the bar doesn |
| 08:22 | <return0> | 't move |
| 08:22 | <return0> | for progress of the sound |
| 08:22 | <godless> | did you configure xmms for alsa ? |
| 08:22 | <return0> | and the volume doesn't effect the mixer |
| 08:23 | <return0> | I don't know :P |
| 08:23 | <return0> | probably not |
| 08:23 | <godless> | :) |
| 08:23 | <godless> | check the outplug plugin in xmms :) |
| 08:24 | <return0> | ok I tried another something actually |
| 08:24 | <return0> | I started up bttv |
| 08:24 | <return0> | and xawtv |
| 08:24 | <return0> | and then went to the mixer |
| 08:25 | <return0> | and unmuted all |
| 08:25 | <return0> | and turned them all up |
| 08:25 | <return0> | nothing |
| 08:25 | <fayep> | have you got any .wav files? |
| 08:25 | <godless> | what fayep says :) |
| 08:25 | <fayep> | if so try playing them with aplay |
| 08:28 | <return0> | I have an mp3 :) |
| 08:29 | <fayep> | then you need to have an alsa enabled mp3 player to do that. wav is easier |
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| 08:29 | <fayep> | since we know aplay can play wavs to alsa |
| 08:29 | <return0> | k |
| 08:29 | <fayep> | the windows "ping" sound will do |
| 08:29 | <fayep> | doesn't have to be a big file |
| 08:29 | <return0> | xwindows? |
| 08:29 | <return0> | not seeing any |
| 08:30 | <fayep> | no I actually meant the M$ one |
| 08:30 | <fayep> | can't you find somthing to download on the web? |
| 08:31 | <fayep> | http://findatlantis.com/music_dl.aspx?dir=%2FMusic%2FSamples%2FKyma+Sounds |
| 08:33 | <return0> | I don't have a browser on the linux box atm how do I get a file from http if I have the full address |
| 08:34 | <godless> | wget ? |
| 08:34 | <godless> | links |
| 08:34 | <fayep> | wget http://findatlantis.com/music/Music/Samples/Kyma Sounds/boing.wav |
| 08:34 | <return0> | already did apt-get install wget and got it |
| 08:34 | <return0> | hehe |
| 08:34 | <godless> | :) |
| 08:35 | <fayep> | might need to replace the space with %20 |
| 08:35 | <return0> | ok it made noise but... not the right noise :P |
| 08:35 | <return0> | I got a 1 second wav and what played lasted for about 4 seconds and sounded like wind |
| 08:36 | <return0> | err someone blowing on a mic |
| 08:36 | <return0> | it did unsigned 8-bit rate 8000hz mono |
| 08:36 | <return0> | maybe it's sampled higher |
| 08:42 | <return0> | that was a different wav... trying that boing one |
| 08:43 | <return0> | it says using sound card blah blah, |
| 08:43 | <return0> | "Aplay: cannot found WAVE data chunk" |
| 08:46 | <godless> | sorry don't have any further ideas, maybe the wav is the wrong format |
| 08:46 | <return0> | I'm sure I have something messed up :P |
| 08:47 | virsys | is now known as virzyz |
| 08:48 | <godless> | :) |
| 08:48 | <godless> | you'll find it |
| 08:48 | <godless> | take a break maybe |
| 08:48 | <godless> | :) |
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| 09:03 | <StuartL> | How are you trying to play the file? |
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| 09:12 | <return0> | does mythtv use hdparm automatically? or should i manually do stuff with hdparm? |
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| 09:34 | <sams> | mornin guys.. had a question about some of the development going on with mythtv... |
| 09:35 | <sams> | been reading up on the new mfd for the new thinner front end and also about DAAP... whill there be the possibility to stream video from something like a web browser with this new mfd? |
| 09:43 | <godless> | anyone running mythtv in belgium ? |
| 09:43 | <godless> | I'm having proble |