| --- | Log | opened Sat Jan 10 00:00:11 2004 |
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| 00:10 | <Salec> | is there anything i need to specify for multihead? |
| 00:12 | <robbie> | google for xinerama |
| 00:13 | <robbie> | if you use an nvidia card with the drivers from nvidia then read the readme, its got everything |
| 00:13 | <robbie> | and the nvidia stuff installs some examples in doc |
| 00:13 | <Salec> | i have a voodoo3 in there right now |
| 00:13 | <Salec> | with a pvr 350 |
| 00:25 | warlord | is now known as warlord-afk |
| 00:34 | <Salec> | how do i specify a dual head display in X? |
| 00:34 | <Salec> | i have the config files setup |
| 00:35 | <Salec> | currently i just run startx |
| 00:35 | <Salec> | and it blanks out my tv screen and i get xfree on the monitor |
| 00:35 | <Salec> | can i then specify mythfrontend to run on the screen? |
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| 01:47 | <Salec> | how can i grant user access to /dev/video? |
| 02:00 | <bline> | chmod/chown |
| 02:01 | <Salec> | hmm |
| 02:01 | <Salec> | when i try to playback video |
| 02:01 | <Salec> | all i get is a black screen |
| 02:01 | <Salec> | and no sound |
| 02:02 | <Salec> | using pvr 350 |
| 02:13 | <Salec> | hey guys i'm having some probs with mythtv and a pvr 350 |
| 02:14 | <Salec> | i have Xfree running on ivtv-fb |
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| 02:36 | <Sembiance> | How does everyone handle syncing your local computer time with the time source used by your cable channels? |
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| 02:38 | <Sembiance> | I'm thinking maybe I should hack up mythtv and add support for a 'time offset' on a per channel basis from system time. |
| 02:39 | <Sembiance> | This way if Comedy Central is 30 seconds faster than system time, and MSNBC is 10 seconds slower, I can input the correct settings so that MythTV will record on time. |
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| 02:46 | <Netslayer> | anyone know how to set the playback settings like color, brightness? I can go through the settings on the screen but there is no way to change them, the keys.txt says to use the arrow keys, which don't work. Any ideas? |
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| 02:52 | <Sembiance> | Also I plan on hacking up mythtv so it will use mplayer to play back recorded TV shows and also play live feeds from PVR 250's. |
| 02:52 | <Sembiance> | because MythTV's own 'video player' SUCKS MAJOR |
| 02:59 | <Salec_> | how does it suck? |
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| 03:04 | <Sembiance> | Well MythTV deals with lots of different tuners. |
| 03:04 | <Sembiance> | Some need to be combined with sound input on sound cards. |
| 03:05 | <Sembiance> | So Myth has a lot of code to combine video and audio. |
| 03:05 | <Sembiance> | This is great for those people with those tuners. |
| 03:05 | <Sembiance> | But for those of us that use tuners built in this millennium (PVR250/350), they just output a raw MPEG stream including audio. |
| 03:06 | <Sembiance> | and I know that I get 10 times better performance using MythVideo and mplayer to play my recorded .nuv's than I do trying to use Myth to watch my recorded shows. |
| 03:07 | <Sembiance> | anyways. It won't be a problem once I hack up Myth to support ysing mplayer for everything. |
| 03:07 | <Salec_> | let me know when you do :) |
| 03:07 | <Salec_> | i know with dd i get 1% cpu viewing livetv |
| 03:07 | <Salec_> | with my nice pvr 350 |
| 03:10 | <Salec_> | i'm having problems with mythtv and it though |
| 03:10 | <Sembiance> | Yah, MythTV is major OVERKILL for the Pvr250 cards. All I want myth to do is 'cat /dev/video0 > videofile.mpg' at the right times :) |
| 03:10 | <Salec_> | it displays a black screen when viewing livetv :( |
| 03:10 | <Sembiance> | And use 'mplayer /dev/video0' for playing tv ;) |
| 03:10 | <Salec_> | hehe yea! |
| 03:10 | <Sembiance> | salec: you can use mplayer to play live tv, pause, etc. |
| 03:10 | <Salec_> | really? |
| 03:11 | <Salec_> | mplayer runs in x right? |
| 03:11 | <Sembiance> | yup. just need to instruct mplayer not to cache |
| 03:11 | <Salec_> | sweet |
| 03:11 | <Sembiance> | mplayer runs in everything including x. there is also a framebuffer version and sdl version and more |
| 03:11 | <Salec_> | i just want something that will use the ivtv's framebuffer |
| 03:12 | <Sembiance> | sigh, I really should write my 'WinTV PVR250/PVR350 ONLY' MythTV competition some day ;) |
| 03:12 | <Salec_> | and have an onscreen program guide etc. :) |
| 03:12 | <Sembiance> | ahh, see I use MythWeb for everything |
| 03:12 | <Sembiance> | with 4 tv tuner cards, I set it up to record all sorts of things I want to watch |
| 03:12 | <Salec_> | lol |
| 03:12 | <Sembiance> | then I casually watch them when I get around to it |
| 03:12 | <Salec_> | i can't imagine it being so hard to simply write a program |
| 03:13 | <Salec_> | that snags the mpeg from ivtv |
| 03:13 | <Salec_> | and adds a layer on top |
| 03:13 | <Salec_> | i need to toy with the fb alpha handling |
| 03:13 | <Sembiance> | hehe, it's not hard at all |
| 03:13 | <Salec_> | perhaps you could play the mpeg directly and just do all the extra drawing on the fb |
| 03:13 | <Salec_> | say the program guide etc. |
| 03:13 | <Sembiance> | fopen("/dev/video0", "r") |
| 03:14 | <Sembiance> | rofl |
| 03:14 | <Salec_> | hehe |
| 03:14 | <Sembiance> | You could use libsdl for the drawing, in a fullscreen transparent x-window |
| 03:14 | <Sembiance> | or something else ;) |
| 03:14 | <Sembiance> | heh, don't have much experience with x-windows programming |
| 03:14 | <Salec_> | i'm a windows game developer |
| 03:14 | <Salec_> | so i have no experience |
| 03:15 | <Salec_> | but i'm a very fast learner |
| 03:15 | <Salec_> | would it be possible to write directly to the framebuffer? |
| 03:15 | <Salec_> | that way i don't need to deal with X |
| 03:16 | <Sembiance> | well maybe you want to look at libSDL? It gives you direct access to the screen. And it runs in X or in framebuffer mode, and other stuff too. |
| 03:16 | <Sembiance> | I even thought about using Mozilla and XUL to make a mythtv type program |
| 03:16 | <Sembiance> | using webpages, javascript |
| 03:16 | <Salec_> | that would be slow |
| 03:16 | <Salec_> | you want fast ass performance :) |
| 03:16 | <Sembiance> | heh |
| 03:17 | * | Sembiance wishes he had like 6 months off from work where he could devote to making a Mythkiller. |
| 03:17 | <Salec_> | haha |
| 03:17 | <Sembiance> | of course mine would only work with the PVR250/350 cards |
| 03:17 | <Salec_> | i'm stuck writing a gamebryo game :( |
| 03:17 | <Sembiance> | I don't care about all the rest |
| 03:17 | <Salec_> | that's OK! |
| 03:17 | <Salec_> | :) |
| 03:17 | <Salec_> | fuck the rest man |
| 03:17 | <Salec_> | :D |
| 03:17 | <Sembiance> | hehe |
| 03:17 | <Salec_> | easy fix |
| 03:17 | <Salec_> | write an external program that takes the rest |
| 03:18 | <Sembiance> | I spend most of my days writing tcp/ip socket server daemons and web pages for work |
| 03:18 | <Salec_> | and encodes an mpeg stream |
| 03:18 | * | Sembiance is very tired and is going to bed. |
| 03:18 | <Sembiance> | night |
| 03:19 | <Salec_> | cya |
| 03:27 | <thor_> | http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,61849,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_4 |
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| 03:29 | <Salec_> | marc! |
| 03:29 | <Salec_> | do you have a pvr 350? |
| 03:29 | <marc> | morning |
| 03:29 | <marc> | yes |
| 03:30 | <Salec_> | can you get myth tv to work with it? |
| 03:31 | <marc> | just watching live tv :-) |
| 03:31 | <Salec_> | with mythtv? |
| 03:32 | <Salec_> | when i load up mythtv in X on the ivtv-fb |
| 03:32 | <Salec_> | and i go to watch live tv |
| 03:32 | <Salec_> | the screen goes black and i just hear audio |
| 03:32 | <marc> | mmmh |
| 03:32 | <Salec_> | however if i manually set the transparencies using ivtvfbctl and use dd i can watch tv |
| 03:32 | <Salec_> | but i don't see anything on X |
| 03:33 | <marc> | I'm not an expert - but it looks like something wrong with the localalpha/globalalpha settings |
| 03:33 | <Salec_> | anyidea where i can change those? |
| 03:34 | <marc> | can you play with ivtvfbctl while watching - and see if you can get a picture? |
| 03:34 | <marc> | sometimes myth gets it wrong for me, too. typically when switching channels and pressing the info button and the menu button all at the same time |
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| 03:38 | <lykke> | Morning :) anyone here running with an Terratec Cinergy 400 (saa7134) ? |
| 03:39 | <Salec_> | when i mess ivtvfbctl i get a mirror image on the screen |
| 03:39 | <Salec_> | like it was ripped or something |
| 03:39 | <marc> | mmmh. |
| 03:40 | <marc> | then this would be a good time for somebody more knowledgeable to join the discussion |
| 03:40 | <Salec_> | gonna reboot and write down the defaults :) |
| 03:41 | * | lykke will come back later - have to test my 2.6.1 kernel :) |
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| 03:46 | <Salec_> | odd |
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| 05:55 | <Netslayer> | hmm this is odd what happened to mapping page up and page down in mythmusic for next/previous track? it's fast forwarding instead now heh..i'm stuck at this song errf |
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| 10:03 | <Rroet> | hi all |
| 10:04 | <Rroet> | any1 have success yet with getting ivtv work under 2.6.x ? |
| 10:08 | <StuartL> | I'm having a minor issue with 2.4.24 |
| 10:08 | <Rroet> | hi stuart. |
| 10:08 | <Rroet> | I'm not having any issues atm |
| 10:08 | <Rroet> | well.. I have 1 |
| 10:08 | <Rroet> | that is unloading the viafb module, but since I don't use it anyways I don't mind. |
| 10:11 | <StuartL> | Gonna reboot, I think it might be the ivtv-fb module causing the issue. Two secs. |
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| 10:15 | <StuartL> | Yeah, it was ivtv-fb |
| 10:22 | <Rroet> | ;) |
| 10:22 | <Rroet> | ivtv-fb ... not for me ;) |
| 10:22 | <Rroet> | I have a 250 ;) |
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| 10:23 | <StuartL> | :) |
| 10:23 | <StuartL> | Just thrown some downloaded porn vids at the decoder out of curiosity :) |
| 10:23 | <StuartL> | Seems to work for about 3/4 of them :) |
| 10:24 | <Rroet> | ;) |
| 10:24 | <StuartL> | (the mpeg streams, haven't tried the avis, not expecting them to work) |
| 10:24 | <Rroet> | but the 350 only outputs mpeg2 right ? |
| 10:24 | <StuartL> | It seems to output mpeg1 too. |
| 10:24 | <Rroet> | no, it's a mpeg2 decoder chip... |
| 10:24 | <Rroet> | don't expect it to know what mpeg4 is |
| 10:24 | <StuartL> | Some mpeg1 it has a problem with but tried quite a few successfully. |
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| 10:25 | <StuartL> | Has an issue with non-standard audio too (e.g. MP3 audio). |
| 10:25 | <StuartL> | No surprises there. |
| 10:27 | <StuartL> | Ah dammit. |
| 10:27 | <StuartL> | It decodes the video for spaceballs just fine, no audio though :( |
| 10:28 | <StuartL> | Ooh, hangon, it is working just very cwiet. |
| 10:28 | <StuartL> | \o/ |
| 10:37 | <beetle110> | What works better for capturing from two tuners, and transcoding. Two PIII 933's, or One AMD 1800+? |
| 10:38 | <beetle110> | the PIII's are SMP. |
| 10:39 | <pahli_bar> | beetle110: what tuner cards |
| 10:41 | <beetle110> | currently have one pvr-250 |
| 10:41 | <beetle110> | avermedia m179 is on order. |
| 10:42 | <pahli_bar> | both are hardware encoders cards. cpu is hardly used for simply capturing. |
| 10:42 | <pahli_bar> | for transcoding more the cpu merrier it is |
| 10:43 | <pahli_bar> | not sure how 2 P3 933 will stack up against one 1800XP |
| 10:43 | <beetle110> | pahli_bar: guess I'll just have to find out. |
| 10:44 | <pahli_bar> | but i have a feeling it will become more io bound (hard disk write) when you have two captures running |
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| 10:44 | <hardwired> | cheers |
| 10:44 | <beetle110> | pahli_bar: I shouldn't have a disk I/O problem. |
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| 10:45 | <beetle110> | I used this drive array to capture and edit home movies off of my camera before I got the pvr-250 |
| 10:45 | <beetle110> | didn't drop frames then. |
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| 10:46 | <beetle110> | thanks for the information though. |
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| 11:17 | <Chutt> | warlord? |
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| 11:31 | <eauxnguyen> | is this dev only or can I ask stoopid user questions here? |
| 11:31 | <hardwired> | eauxnguyen: you can ask... provided you read the faqs and mailing list archives |
| 11:32 | <eauxnguyen> | agreed. I have spent a fair amount of time in the manual, faqs, and archives, my answer is probably there and I haven't found it yet |
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| 11:32 | <hardwired> | eauxnguyen: happens to everybody :) |
| 11:33 | <eauxnguyen> | I am running the 250 for capture and an aopen mx440 8x for tv out via s video and I can't get the tv display functioning |
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| 11:36 | <pahli_bar> | eauxnguyen: elaborate. |
| 11:36 | <eauxnguyen> | I understand I should clone it? When I look at the X1186 config it appears to only be set up for one crt at 1024x768? |
| 11:38 | <pahli_bar> | eauxnguyen: have you read the nvidia README which comes with the drivers |
| 11:39 | <eauxnguyen> | yes I read through it last night. If the answer is there I will go reread it before tying up people here. It was late ;) |
| 11:42 | <pahli_bar> | that would be your best source. if you can't figure it out, ask questions here |
| 11:42 | <pahli_bar> | or better on the mailing lists |
| 11:42 | <eauxnguyen> | thanks! |
| 11:44 | <StuartL> | This better? |
| 11:44 | <StuartL> | :) |
| 11:44 | <hardwired> | yeh :) |
| 11:45 | <StuartL> | hardwired: Please excuse me, I know loads about linux, kernels etc but I've never got the hang of X11. I use linux for servers so a desktop is new to me. |
| 11:45 | <hardwired> | StuartL: did you create a user for mythtv already? |
| 11:45 | <StuartL> | indeed. |
| 11:45 | <StuartL> | I've got mythfe (I was thinking about having mythfe and mythbe but mythbe doesn't exist yet :)) |
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| 11:45 | <StuartL> | Small steps, etc. |
| 11:46 | <StuartL> | MySQL has a user mythtv password mythtv granted. |
| 11:46 | <hardwired> | i mean a system user |
| 11:46 | <hardwired> | the one that is supposed to rn the frontend |
| 11:46 | <StuartL> | Aye. |
| 11:46 | <StuartL> | That's the mythfe user. |
| 11:47 | <hardwired> | just run the command startx as that user, you should get a very basic x, two xterms and some sort of clock |
| 11:47 | <StuartL> | Nope. |
| 11:47 | <hardwired> | then you should get errors instead :) |
| 11:47 | <StuartL> | I get a "caught signal 11" message... |
| 11:47 | <StuartL> | No other errors (like bad configs or anything). |
| 11:48 | <StuartL> | I don't have a mouse on that system, is that going to cause a problem? |
| 11:48 | <hardwired> | StuartL: uh, maybe /var/log/XFree bla log? |
| 11:48 | <StuartL> | Ooh, 2 secs. |
| 11:49 | <hardwired> | StuartL: yeh, it needs a mouse, or 'Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"' in the ServerFlags section of XFree86Config |
| 11:49 | <StuartL> | Nope, no errors in there. |
| 11:49 | <StuartL> | Ok, I'll check that. |
| 11:49 | <StuartL> | DOes it still need the pointing device command or should I comment that out? |
| 11:49 | <StuartL> | InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" |
| 11:51 | <hardwired> | i still have it in |
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| 11:51 | <StuartL> | Indeed, if I remove it it bombs out with an error. |
| 11:52 | <hardwired> | StuartL: try to run xf86config |
| 11:52 | <StuartL> | Hmm, ok. |
| 11:52 | <StuartL> | Shall I back up XF86config first? |
| 11:52 | <hardwired> | can't hurt |
| 11:53 | <abhi> | if i only have one line-in on my audio card, is it possible to have 2 tuners with audio? do any cards have digitial audio things for connecting to sound card inside? |
| 11:53 | <pahli_bar> | abhi: FAQ. |
| 11:54 | <rkulagow> | chutt: i'm at a loss as to why all of a sudden my boxes are sometimes timing out on frontend<->backend comms. any pointers? ReadStringList is timing out, usually after a QUERY_RECORDINGS Play on the frontend. i'm compiling for debugging now... |
| 11:56 | <rkulagow> | i'm also going to use an ethernet crossover cable between the boxes in case it's a switch issue. (that'll be easiest to check, but weird in a different way) |
| 12:01 | <hardwired> | StuartL: ehh, wait. |
| 12:01 | <hardwired> | StuartL: i meand xf86cfh |
| 12:01 | <hardwired> | StuartL: i meand xf86cfg even |
| 12:01 | <hardwired> | StuartL: not xf86config |
| 12:01 | <StuartL> | Too late. |
| 12:01 | <StuartL> | Got a picture, though. |
| 12:02 | <StuartL> | SO something fixed it. |
| 12:02 | <StuartL> | No mouse :) |
| 12:02 | <hardwired> | heh ok |
| 12:02 | <StuartL> | This is going to get interesting... |
| 12:02 | <StuartL> | Erm, don't have a working keyboard. |
| 12:02 | <StuartL> | That's not good. |
| 12:03 | <StuartL> | TTY switching doesn't work and num lock isn't responding. |
| 12:03 | <hardwired> | no, you need it to set up myth. you can ditch it after everything works though |
| 12:03 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, could try increasing the timeout amount |
| 12:03 | <hardwired> | StuartL: just a guess, did you use ctrl-alt-f1 or so to switch? |
| 12:03 | <StuartL> | Ok, I have no keyboard and no mouse. |
| 12:04 | <StuartL> | hardwired: I tried that, yeah. |
| 12:04 | * | StuartL tries control-alt-backspace |
| 12:04 | <hardwired> | StuartL: ah ok. just thought you tried alt-f1 only cause that's how one does it without x :) |
| 12:04 | <StuartL> | Nope, eevn that doesn't work. |
| 12:04 | <StuartL> | :) |
| 12:04 | <StuartL> | I dunno whether X has crashed or whether it's just the keyboard interface. |
| 12:05 | <StuartL> | Nope, X is fine. |
| 12:05 | <StuartL> | Damnit. |
| 12:06 | <StuartL> | I'll try a reboot with a PS/2 mouse installed, BRB. |
| 12:06 | <rkulagow> | chutt: i was thinking of that. the master backend is a p3-733 with gobs of ram. it's curious that something "lately" has pushed it over the edge. returning from watching a recording back to the "watch recordings" screen can take >20 seconds. i hate not knowing why something is happening... |
| 12:09 | <kvandivo> | frontend is beefy? |
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| 12:09 | <kvandivo> | it takes my xbox a while to do that (recording back to 'watch') but i've always blamed that on the frontend swapping |
| 12:10 | <rkulagow> | frontend is a p4 2.4Ghz with 512MB. it's not really doing anything else. |
| 12:11 | <kvandivo> | i'd say that's beefy enough. :) |
| 12:12 | <Chutt> | certainly should be |
| 12:12 | <rkulagow> | aggh, got to eat and clean mouse shit out of the garage. how's that for an afternoon? |
| 12:13 | <Chutt> | i get to do framing in the basement |
| 12:13 | <Chutt> | much more exciting |
| 12:14 | <kvandivo> | you really need to be leaning on your wife to get a projector for your new basement.. |
| 12:16 | <godless> | qustion : how do I tune/get channels for PAL pvr 350 ? |
| 12:19 | <StuartL> | hardwired: When setting the capture stuff in mythsetup what should I set for the audio recording device? I don't really want it to be dsp, do I? That's the motherboard sound card... |
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| 12:22 | <abhi> | is there any way to use an all-in-wonder card? (i know it doesnt have a full v4l interface and all) |
| 12:24 | <hardwired> | StuartL: dunno... does the doc say anything about it? |
| 12:25 | <StuartL> | Not that I can find :( |
| 12:25 | <hardwired> | StuartL: i set up alsa and use alsa for everything but mythmusic. though i did not set up tv, so i dunno what tv uses |
| 12:26 | <sfr> | StuartL: set it to none when using a pvr250/350 card |
| 12:26 | <StuartL> | sfr: Excellent, thanks. |
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| 12:31 | <hardwired> | anyone ever noticed that the garbled screen that myth presents after watching a video is only garbled as long as no tv has been watched before? |
| 12:31 | <hardwired> | once you watch tv for a second, the screen will never garble again |
| 12:34 | <StuartL> | Personally I notice that the mythtv setup program is bigger than a normal NTSC picture. |
| 12:34 | <Rroet> | this is brilliant,.... |
| 12:34 | <StuartL> | Which is annoying :) |
| 12:34 | <Rroet> | I've just updated to kernel 2.6 with ivtv and all the prebuff pauses dissappear |
| 12:35 | <hardwired> | StuartL: yes... you can resize myth once it's running |
| 12:36 | <StuartL> | hardwired: Myth maybe but I couldn't the setup screen... |
| 12:36 | <hardwired> | StuartL: yes, still worked for me somehow, even if it was annoying. |
| 12:37 | <StuartL> | Oh yeah, I could shuffle the screen around and guess where the buttons were but not handy :) |
| 12:38 | <hardwired> | oh well, you only have to do this once :) |
| 12:38 | <StuartL> | :) |
| 12:39 | <hardwired> | does someone have an xawtv file for me? any xawtv file with a few channels will do, i just need the file format |
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| 12:40 | <sfr> | hardwired: i can dcc you mine |
| 12:40 | <hardwired> | sfr: ok, hold on a sec though |
| 12:41 | <hardwired> | sfr: dcc it to hw_dcc please |
| 12:42 | <hardwired> | sfr: thanks! |
| 12:42 | <sfr> | hardwired: np |
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| 12:45 | <DJ_Rican> | if i install a new hd, mount it, configure myth to the new paths, and move all my video, music, etc files to the new paths, do i have to do anything to the database? |
| 12:47 | <StuartL> | Doubt it, it'll be referencing them by path. |
| 12:47 | <sfr> | DJ_Rican: configuring myth already will 'do anything to the database' so i'd think no. |
| 12:47 | <StuartL> | You might want to restart though, in case anything was open at the time. |
| 12:47 | <hardwired> | sfr: doesnt't that xawtvrc file include frequencies? |
| 12:48 | <sfr> | hardwired: not directly afaik, they are determined through the freqtab + the channelname |
| 12:49 | <hardwired> | sfr: what freqtable? |
| 12:49 | <sfr> | hardwired: europe-west in my case |
| 12:49 | <sfr> | hardwired: in the global section |
| 12:49 | <hardwired> | sfr: that is standard for every country in europe-west? |
| 12:50 | <StuartL> | Yay. mythbackend running. |
| 12:50 | <StuartL> | hardwired: How do I get X to run mythfrontend correctly (right window geometry, run on startup etc)? |
| 12:50 | <sfr> | hardwired: i don't know. i'm in germany using cable-tv |
| 12:51 | <sfr> | hardwired: don't you have a channels table from your tv provider? |
| 12:52 | <hardwired> | StuartL: go into setup/appearance and set windo geometry. on gentoo, i made an rc script that just does a startx as my mythtv user, and that user has mythfrontend in his ~/.xinitrc |
| 12:52 | <hardwired> | sfr: yes, but it looks different from yours: |
| 12:53 | <hardwired> | sfr: (name, freq, band, channel) : (ard, 161.48, VHF USB, S09) |
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| 12:53 | <hardwired> | sfr: in your file, ard is just E5 |
| 12:53 | <hardwired> | bbl, got to go |
| 12:54 | <sfr> | hardwired: on my channels table S09 (Pro 7) matches SE9 in my xawtvrc file |
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| 13:14 | <ShockValue> | hi all, where are 'videos' put into playlists? when i go to browse videos, they are all in playlist 1,2,3,4 but not on playlist 0.. which is inconvenient since mythvideo starts on playlist 0 by default. |
| 13:15 | <ShockValue> | ooooo.... just dawned on me.. is PL = parantel level, and not playlist? :) |
| 13:16 | <ShockValue> | the question remains though... video browser starts on "PL 0" and i dont see an option to put my video's on PL0 |
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| 13:18 | <thor_> | parental level |
| 13:18 | <thor_> | hit 1, 2, 3, 4 |
| 13:19 | <ShockValue> | ok, but can i make the VideoBrowser start on 1,2,3, or 4 instead of 0? |
| 13:19 | <thor_> | yup, setup Default PL |
| 13:19 | <hardwired> | yeh i want to do that as well |
| 13:19 | <ShockValue> | ah i see, let me try |
| 13:20 | <ShockValue> | hrm.. i set in setup -> video -> general -> 4 - Highest |
| 13:21 | <ShockValue> | (starting parantal level that is) |
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| 13:21 | <thor_> | mmm k |
| 13:21 | <ShockValue> | but when i go into browse video's, it starts at PL 0 |
| 13:22 | <ShockValue> | (i dont have kids or porn, so i dont really care about video level filtering) |
| 13:22 | <thor_> | Browser or Tree or both ? |
| 13:22 | <ShockValue> | um |
| 13:23 | <ShockValue> | it says PL 0 in Tree, but im able to see all my movies there. |
| 13:23 | <ShockValue> | umm actually, weird |
| 13:23 | <thor_> | don't know how you got it to zero |
| 13:23 | <ShockValue> | whatever PL level I am, is how many copies of the movies show up... so if I am at PL=3 in the TRee view, i see 3 copies of each video |
| 13:24 | <thor_> | go into manager ? |
| 13:24 | <ShockValue> | yeah, it seems that once i leave PL0, i cant go back to it. |
| 13:25 | <thor_> | sounds like your settings table is bit off |
| 13:25 | <ShockValue> | it just starts at PL0 in browse and tree. |
| 13:25 | <thor_> | try this: |
| 13:25 | <thor_> | mysql -p -u mythtv mythconverg |
| 13:26 | <pahli_bar> | ooh wow. qglwidget doesn't like being deleted on close |
| 13:26 | <ShockValue> | thor_ ok, that took me into mysql.. nowwhat? |
| 13:26 | <thor_> | one sec ... |
| 13:26 | <thor_> | trying to find the thing ... |
| 13:27 | <ShockValue> | k |
| 13:28 | <thor_> | SELECT * FROM settings WHERE value = "VideoDefaultParentalLevel" ; |
| 13:28 | <ShockValue> | VideoDefaultParentalLevel | 4 - Highest | Myth |
| 13:28 | <thor_> | eh |
| 13:28 | <thor_> | not just 4 |
| 13:28 | <thor_> | actually "4 - Highest" |
| 13:28 | <thor_> | ? |
| 13:29 | <ShockValue> | flood to you in private |
| 13:29 | <thor_> | yup |
| 13:29 | <thor_> | that's odd |
| 13:29 | <thor_> | lemme look at a couple things ... |
| 13:29 | <ShockValue> | ok |
| 13:29 | <ShockValue> | i need to reboot, ill be back in 2 seconds |
| 13:30 | <ShockValue> | or 60 |
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| 13:30 | <thor_> | ah |
| 13:31 | <thor_> | try 2 or 3 |
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| 13:32 | <ShockValue> | ok, reboot complete :) |
| 13:36 | <ShockValue> | hrm.. lircd runs, and irw runs, but i cant seem to get anything out of my remote |
| 13:38 | <hardwired> | ShockValue: then change the batteries :) |
| 13:38 | <ShockValue> | just pulled them out of the package this mornign :) |
| 13:39 | <pahli_bar> | hmm. has anyone else faced this. qglwidget and wdestructiveclose causing a segmentation fault |
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| 13:40 | <ShockValue> | any thoughts on the PL0 thing thor_ ? |
| 13:42 | <pahli_bar> | a simple way to test batteries to put the +ve against your tongue and complete the circuit by touching the -ve end. a slight metallic tingle will indicate battery is live |
| 13:42 | <pahli_bar> | obviously not recommended for anything greater than 1.5v |
| 13:43 | <thor_> | ShockValue, mystery to me, that version are you running |
| 13:43 | <thor_> | what |
| 13:43 | <kvandivo> | i've been trying to come up with a way that i can manually discharge my laptop battery without having it explode on me |
| 13:43 | <thor_> | ? |
| 13:44 | <pahli_bar> | kvandivo: try jumpstarting cars with it :) |
| 13:44 | <pahli_bar> | plenty of stranded strangers in this weather |
| 13:44 | <kvandivo> | 14 volts... and a bit too delicate for use outside in the weather.. |
| 13:45 | <kvandivo> | the thing says it has a full charge, but the instant i pull the power the machine shuts off.. |
| 13:45 | <chiphead> | make a big electro magnet and let it sit |
| 13:45 | <ShockValue> | thor_: 0.13 |
| 13:48 | <thor_> | pahli_bar, things getting destroyed in the wrong order? (cout's in destructors and/or gdb :-) ) |
| 13:49 | <pahli_bar> | thor_: hmmm. looks at qt bug. valgrind indicates so. also took one of qt examples and put in destructiveclose and crash-boom-bang |
| 13:49 | <pahli_bar> | s/at/like |
| 13:53 | <ShockValue> | hrm.. looks liek i need to buy a TV with DVI input.. i cant find a video card with component output :) |
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| 13:53 | <Hymie> | woo! |
| 13:53 | <Hymie> | hey, does anyone know why IMDB isn't working? |
| 13:54 | <ShockValue> | bash: woo!: command not found |
| 13:54 | <hardwired> | whoaaa. Hymie. |
| 13:54 | <hardwired> | haven't seen you in ages :) |
| 13:55 | <thor_> | pahli_bar, at the risk of sounding obvious, don't use Qt::WDestructiveClose ? |
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| 13:55 | <Hymie> | I don't know whom you are referring to sir, my name is Horace |
| 13:55 | <hardwired> | Hymie: i remember you from #a_w times |
| 13:56 | <Hymie> | hardwired: who is this hymie person! |
| 13:56 | <Hymie> | ;) |
| 13:56 | <pahli_bar> | thor_: thats what i'm doing now. deleting objects in a closeevent |
| 13:56 | <Hymie> | hardwired: what are you doing on here... I thought everyone on that channel was just a figment of my imagination.. I guess now I'll have to see that doctor again, now that those hallusionations are coming back to life ;) |
| 13:58 | * | hardwired vanishes in a cloud of smoke |
| 14:07 | <Hymie> | so, anyone else having problems with the IMDB side of things? Just sort of sits there, for me (.13) |
| 14:18 | <Sembiance> | How does everyone handle syncing your local computer time with the time source used by your cable channels? |
| 14:18 | <kvandivo> | ntp. the best you can do is make your computer right and hope others do as well |
| 14:19 | <pahli_bar> | trust the cable channels to keep sync with standard time and use ntp/nptdate |
| 14:19 | <Hymie> | so, anyone else having problems with the IMDB side of things? Just sort of sits there, for me.. never able to find the title.. however entering the number directly works (found a question like this on the mythtv-users mailing list, but no one answered there as well ;) |
| 14:29 | <Hymie> | please.. I beg you.. don't all answer at once, it is hard to make out what people are saying ;P |
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| 14:37 | <kvandivo> | ok. we can take a hint. we'll be quiet now. |
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| 14:47 | <rkulagow> | yay. someone else is seeing the same long pause going to/from the watch recordings screen that i'm seeing with CVS. |
| 14:47 | <kvandivo> | the mysql post? |
| 14:47 | <rkulagow> | yes |
| 14:47 | <kvandivo> | you have mysql logging turned on? |
| 14:47 | <rkulagow> | but i still have to keep cleaning mouse shit, so bbl. |
| 14:47 | * | kvandivo cackles. |
| 14:48 | <mikegrb> | Hymie: you know this is a development channel, not user support? |
| 14:48 | <rkulagow> | logging is off AFAIK. |
| 14:49 | <Hymie> | mikegrb: no, since it doesn't say -dev anywhere, I didn't know that ;) Anyhow, myself, another user, and someone on the mailing list seem to be having this problem. ngrep shows that I'm communicating with imdb.com fine, but that mythtv isn't parsing things. I suppose I could take my question to the ml, but even if this is a dev channel, perhaps this be relevant info? |
| 14:49 | <Hymie> | mikegrb: if not, I'll plaster the ML with "help me" requests ;) |
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| 14:49 | <mikegrb> | mailing list, and many people delete messages with subjects like "help me" |
| 14:50 | <mikegrb> | you'll not that rkulagow and kvandivo there working on a problem are talking about determining the exact problem so they can fix it |
| 14:50 | <Hymie> | mikegrb: heh, I said "help me" requests, not "help me" subjects ;Þ |
| 14:51 | <Hymie> | mikegrb: oh, I see. You've never seen a person working on a problem, unless it is a dev channel, is that it? |
| 14:52 | <Hymie> | mikegrb: anyhow, I'll go bug the list |
| 14:53 | <chiphead> | rkulagow, yes I noticed a longer delay as well |
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| 14:55 | <rkulagow> | hrmm. time to diff CVS and at least 5 JAN CVS and see what's changed. mark rote has a p3-866, i've got a p3-733. chiphead: what do you have on the mysql box? |
| 14:55 | <chiphead> | p2-400 |
| 14:55 | <sfr> | rkulagow: what timeout have you been talking with Chutt about earlier? |
| 14:56 | <rkulagow> | sfr: the timeout i was getting was on the frontend after the QUERY_RECORDINGS Play. readstring would timeout, and the frontend would decide that the backend was gone, even though it wasn't. |
| 14:57 | <rkulagow> | i haven't actually checked any values in the code because i've been working in the garage, and the masterbackend is down now because i have to move it from where it was sitting before. |
| 14:58 | <sfr> | rkulagow: i'm also seeing frequent timeouts on the frontend. Selecting backend-related options (live-tv etc.) a 2nd time works usually |
| 14:58 | <rkulagow> | occasionally, the "watch recordings" _wouldn't_ timeout and i'd be able to start watching something. but there's an async update that happens, and so i might be watching and then i'd get a popup saying that it had lost the connection to the backend. anyway, others are seeing it, so that helps at least. i've got to go though... |
| 14:59 | <sfr> | rkulagow: sure |
| 15:00 | <chiphead> | rkulagow, I have also notices a longer delay after picking a recording to play and the start of the video. Prolly all related |
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| 15:07 | <rkulagow> | ok, diffing to 6 days ago gives me 12000 lines, much of which is my docs. cutting that makes it 3600, a lot of which looks like a ffmpeg resync, so at least there's somewhere to start looking. |
| 15:10 | <godless> | anyone here from belgium ? |
| 15:10 | <rkulagow> | mythbackend/mainserver looks like it's had some interesting changes. might be the place to start looking... |
| 15:13 | <thor_> | the threadpool changes are just from yesterday ... don't know if your problem existed before that |
| 15:15 | <rkulagow> | thor: CVS as of last week was OK; i think it was yesterday that things went south. i am walking away from the keyboard now. must clean garage. bbl. |
| 15:15 | * | kvandivo is tentatively happy that he hasn't updated cvs since day before yesterday. |
| 15:15 | <rkulagow> | once i have time i'll start rolling back day by day and seeing where the change happened. unless someone else with the same problem beats me to it. |
| 15:16 | <rkulagow> | besides, i don't want chutt to yell at us for not even making an attempt to figure out what's wrong. he can be a big meanie in his cvs commit logs. |
| 15:17 | * | kvandivo throws back his head and cackles with insane glee. |
| 15:18 | <thor_> | heh |
| 15:20 | <thor_> | I would go back to early yesterday ... I still don't really understand that threadpool patch (and it's only a few lines), but I was having problems with some very similar code in the mfd |
| 15:20 | <rkulagow> | "Changes committed by ijr on Sat Nov 15 00:56:01 2003 |
| 15:20 | <rkulagow> | Log Message: |
| 15:20 | <rkulagow> | Fix stuff. Thanks to everyone who sent in a patch for the memleak! Oh, wait, nevermind." |
| 15:20 | <rkulagow> | see? mean. |
| 15:21 | <rkulagow> | :) |
| 15:21 | * | thor_ smiles fondly at Chutt's wit |
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| 15:55 | <Salec> | anyone here use mythtv with a pvr 350? |
| 15:58 | <faye> | yes |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, i think i know what the issue is |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, it was fixing the hammer icon for kvandivo =0 |
| 15:59 | <kvandivo> | geez.. glad _i_ didn't submit the patch for that... |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | large mysql select |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | slows things down |
| 16:01 | <faye> | Salec: having problems? |
| 16:01 | <Chutt> | i _think_ that's it, at least |
| 16:02 | <Salec> | a few transparency garble probs |
| 16:02 | <faye> | define garble? |
| 16:03 | <Salec> | http://www.etcp.co.uk/garble.jpg |
| 16:03 | <faye> | not seen that, you're using the right colour depth? |
| 16:04 | <Salec> | 32 |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | you've got the wrong x w/h set |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | or something to that effect |
| 16:11 | <Salec> | nope |
| 16:11 | <Salec> | i have it set for 720x480 |
| 16:12 | <faye> | the image is 720x576 (ie pal) |
| 16:13 | <Salec> | i'm in ntsc |
| 16:13 | <faye> | that's the problem then, like chutt says |
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| 16:13 | <Salec> | what do i need to do then? |
| 16:16 | <faye> | I think the ivtv wiki has instructions on setting up X, did you follow them? |
| 16:16 | <Salec> | yup |
| 16:17 | <faye> | and you didn't copy the pal config by mistake? |
| 16:20 | <Salec> | nope |
| 16:20 | <Salec> | using 720x480 |
| 16:20 | <Salec> | as soon as i call ivtvfbctl /dev/fb1 |
| 16:20 | <Salec> | my screen goes garbled |
| 16:21 | <mdz> | my mythtv box is now semi-operational again |
| 16:22 | <mdz> | 3 months worth of unstable upgrades over nfs root takes a while |
| 16:24 | <Chutt> | salec, how are you loading saa7127? |
| 16:24 | <Chutt> | and why the hell aren't you asking about ivtv questions in the ivtv channel? |
| 16:25 | <faye> | cos there's no ivtv channel? |
| 16:25 | <Chutt> | of course there is. |
| 16:25 | <Chutt> | it's even fairly active |
| 16:25 | <faye> | on this server? |
| 16:26 | <faye> | cos on this net, I'm the only one there |
| 16:26 | <Chutt> | #ivtv-dev |
| 16:27 | <faye> | that'll be why then |
| 16:27 | <kvandivo> | he's talking as much or more there than he is here, chutt |
| 16:27 | <Chutt> | maybe i should enforce that |
| 16:27 | <Chutt> | boot to the head |
| 16:27 | <kvandivo> | just autokick anyone that mentions 'ivtv' in their msg. :) |
| 16:28 | <thor_> | my PVR-250 just wet the bed |
| 16:28 | <kvandivo> | did you name your dog 'my PVR-250' or something? |
| 16:28 | <Salec> | come here pvr250 here boy here |
| 16:29 | <thor_> | and someone named the cat Disonsphere |
| 16:29 | <thor_> | bah |
| 16:30 | <sfr> | next time get a grown-up pvr. my pvr350 has never done that. |
| 16:31 | <faye> | as long as I don't use the PVR350 for recording, X and Playback it's fine. the DVB-T card works great too |
| 16:35 | <MythMicha> | Couple small issues here.... :^( When I boot up my MythBox, I have it set up where the MYTH side of things should be displayed on the TV and the KDE side of things should be on the monitor.. But I get Myth on BOTH... I do have the ' export DISPLAY=:0.1' in mythtv user's .bashrc |
| 16:38 | <Salec> | MythMicha: rather than set up your X screen to be one display (ie having Screen "blah" LeftOf "blah 2" etc) |
| 16:38 | <Salec> | set up x to just have multiple screens that are not relative to each other |
| 16:38 | <Salec> | then just before executing mythfrontend do export DISPLAY=:0.1 (or whatever # your tv is on) |
| 16:39 | <MythMicha> | Salec Can I MSG you my XF86Config?? I thought that is how I had it set up... |
| 16:40 | <MythMicha> | Salec yea that's where I run into issues.. Since my mythfrontend is run from the KDE/Autostart, where exactly do I need to stick that export?? |
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| 16:50 | <knight-> | hey |
| 16:51 | <mdz> | Chutt: is anyone working on http streaming support in mythmusic? I think I have seen it come up a few times |
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| 16:51 | <thor_> | sfr had a patch, that I think he's still working on |
| 16:51 | <sfr> | mdz: i am, albeit slowly |
| 16:52 | <mdz> | sfr: care to send what you have to the list? I'm interested |
| 16:52 | <Netslayer> | is it possible to associate a button in .lircrc to run a script? it should be possible, any ideas? |
| 16:52 | <mdz> | I'd like to parse .pls files as well, to have metadata for http streams |
| 16:53 | <MythMicha> | OK I got fluxbox.. Is there anything I need to know about FluxBox as it pertains to MythTV that would not be in the Fluxbox Docs?? |
| 16:53 | <knight-> | sfr, tell me about your streaming patch |
| 16:53 | <Netslayer> | not really |
| 16:54 | <knight-> | MythMicha, fluxbox has nothing to do with MythTV |
| 16:54 | <MythMicha> | OK kewl.... Thanx :) |
| 16:59 | <sfr> | mdz: it's not really working atm. i duplicated code to handle http requests and kinda stopped in the middle of a rewrite before christmas. i just adapted it a little to latest cvs, so i could send you a patch. don't except a masterpiece though ;) |
| 17:01 | <sfr> | knight-: the first posted patch doesn't do much. it just knows how to connect to a shoutcast stream (mp3) directly. |
| 17:07 | <rkulagow> | chutt: thanks. |
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| 17:07 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, hey, so that email you forwarded me the other day? |
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| 17:16 | <rkulagow> | chutt: yes. |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | the guy called my house last night |
| 17:17 | <kvandivo> | this the brainiac wanting to sell boxes? |
| 17:17 | <rkulagow> | really. must have found you |
