| --- | Log | opened Fri Jan 09 00:00:34 2004 |
| 00:05 | <captbunzo> | Octane: you still here? |
| 00:05 | <Octane> | yes |
| 00:05 | <captbunzo> | what kernel should I be using? |
| 00:05 | <captbunzo> | what would you recommend, that is. |
| 00:06 | <captbunzo> | and are there any special patches that I should have applied to it before compiling? |
| 00:06 | <Octane> | xfs |
| 00:06 | <Octane> | uhmmmm low latency i think |
| 00:06 | <Octane> | a bunch of stuff that are recommended |
| 00:07 | <Octane> | READ the ML! |
| 00:07 | <captbunzo> | so, it's better for me to search for a needle in a haystack then for you to just give me the help that I need? |
| 00:08 | <Octane> | fuck off |
| 00:09 | <Octane> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Users_F11/ |
| 00:09 | <Octane> | searchable mailing list |
| 00:09 | <Octane> | thats how ever user did it, and so should you. or read the many docs and howtos |
| 00:09 | <captbunzo> | thanks, punk. |
| 00:09 | <captbunzo> | bullshit. |
| 00:09 | <Octane> | http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/ has many tuts |
| 00:09 | <Octane> | captbunzo one thing i learned about the mythtv users is that its most a do-it-yourself. you will not get spoonfed every command |
| 00:10 | <Octane> | there is a wonderful mailing list where you can get assistance on issues that have not been discussed. but most of them have, so many of us hate repeating ourselves, over and over again |
| 00:10 | <Octane> | the questions you are asking are the most basic questions |
| 00:10 | <Octane> | neither i or anyone else will waste their time on a user who has obviously not read a single mythtv-related sentence |
| 00:11 | <captbunzo> | you know what, if you guys put together a decent FAQ or whatnot, jackass, you wouldn't have to repeat yourself so many times. |
| 00:11 | <Octane> | okay im done with you, really |
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| 00:11 | <captbunzo> | don't be an asshole - I have worked on Open Source Software projects for years. I understand having the "same old questions" asked. |
| 00:12 | <captbunzo> | you can do the best you can by actually putting the material together in a usable format. |
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| 00:12 | <Octane> | then you out of everyone should know to trfm first |
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| 00:13 | <Octane> | checkout knoppmyth out http://www.mysettopbox.sk perhaps its more suited for you |
| 00:14 | <captbunzo> | I did RTFM first, you jackass. |
| 00:14 | <Octane> | ... |
| 00:15 | <captbunzo> | the FM doesn't have the F answer. |
| 00:15 | <captbunzo> | I did every F thing the FM said. |
| 00:15 | <Octane> | new mythtv acro: RTFML |
| 00:15 | <captbunzo> | bah, no excuse to be an asshole. |
| 00:15 | <captbunzo> | it's fine to say "I'm sorry, I don't have time to help you now". |
| 00:15 | <captbunzo> | it's another thing to just be a jerk. |
| 00:17 | <Octane> | look over our entire conversation and see why i got frustrated dude |
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| 00:18 | <captbunzo> | you got rude when your quick fix didn't fix the problem. |
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| 00:44 | <tdb30_> | hey, when I tell mythweb to record a show it seems to remove any shows I had scheduled before from the list of shows to record. what am I doing wrong? |
| 00:45 | * | DJ_Rican hasn't messed with mythweb... trying to setup mythgame... :) |
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| 00:50 | <captbunzo> | Octane: I am SURE you'd be glad to know I am having some success. |
| 00:54 | <Octane> | !!! |
| 00:54 | <Octane> | yah!! nice |
| 00:54 | <captbunzo> | Octane: I apologize for being a bit offensive earlier. |
| 00:55 | <Octane> | 'sall good |
| 00:55 | <captbunzo> | of course, I still don't have audio. |
| 00:56 | <captbunzo> | and the video seems to hickup about once per second. |
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| 00:58 | <DJ_Rican> | hmm... does anyone know ho to make mame games appear fullscreen? |
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| 00:59 | <Salec> | can someone help me? I have a pvr 350 and cannot get the output to work with X |
| 00:59 | <captbunzo> | here's an easy one, how do I change the channel? |
| 00:59 | <Salec> | all the drivers are installed |
| 00:59 | <Salec> | and I can dd fine |
| 00:59 | <Octane> | capt |
| 01:00 | <Octane> | captbunzo |
| 01:00 | <Octane> | rmmod ivtv |
| 01:00 | <captbunzo> | ah, again. |
| 01:00 | <Octane> | cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/media/video |
| 01:00 | <Octane> | mv msp3400.o msp3400.o.back |
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| 01:00 | <Octane> | then modprobe ivtv |
| 01:01 | <Octane> | depmod -a first though |
| 01:02 | <Salec> | i did that |
| 01:02 | <Salec> | everything but ivtv-fb is loaded |
| 01:02 | <Salec> | i have a voodoo3 PCI and a WinTV PVR 350 fyi |
| 01:02 | <Salec> | when i run modprobe ivtv-fb my terminal display on my monitor just sits there and hangs |
| 01:03 | <Salec> | but i can still type |
| 01:03 | <captbunzo> | Octane: lirc_dev and lirc_i2c are not required for audio, correct? |
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| 01:06 | <captbunzo> | woooho, audio working. |
| 01:06 | <Salec> | now my prob :) |
| 01:08 | <Salec> | anyone? |
| 01:08 | <Salec> | someone in here has to have a pvr 350 :( |
| 01:09 | <tdb30_> | I have a 350 |
| 01:10 | <tdb30_> | but I'm a nobody |
| 01:13 | <tdb30_> | hey, when I tell mythweb to record a show it seems to remove any shows I had scheduled before from the list of shows to record. what am I doing wrong? |
| 01:22 | <Salec> | tdb30!!!! |
| 01:23 | <Salec> | can you help me to get it working in linux? |
| 01:25 | <tdb30_> | you should go to channel #ivtv-dev there are more knowledgable people than I there. |
| 01:25 | <tdb30_> | and that channel is devoted to the PVR 350 and 250 cards |
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| 01:25 | <Salec> | i am in there |
| 01:25 | <Salec> | and they can't help me :( |
| 01:25 | <tdb30_> | did you read the documentation? |
| 01:26 | <Salec> | yea |
| 01:26 | <Salec> | the problem is using ivtv-fb |
| 01:26 | <Octane> | captbunzo: those are for lirc www.lirc.org |
| 01:27 | <captbunzo> | yep. |
| 01:27 | <captbunzo> | I'm working on other pieces of the equation. |
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| 01:28 | <captbunzo> | Got to recompile my kernel to enable DMA. |
| 01:28 | <dyrty> | anyone running mythtv in gentoo? |
| 01:28 | <dyrty> | I do not see a setup directory in /usr/share/mythtv on my gentoo box |
| 01:29 | <captbunzo> | is lirc compiled with the main kernel, or seperately? |
| 01:29 | <dyrty> | I'm on step 9 in myth tv documentation |
| 01:29 | <captbunzo> | (if it is with the main kernel, then I want to compile that now) |
| 01:31 | <captbunzo> | looks like I can compile the module individually... |
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| 01:42 | <dyrty> | what do I put for my videi device and VBI device when using a PVR250? |
| 01:42 | <dyrty> | video |
| 01:43 | <dyrty> | anyone here? |
| 01:46 | <tdb30_> | do you have /dev/vb0 |
| 01:46 | <tdb30_> | or something like that? |
| 01:46 | <tdb30_> | err vbi0 |
| 01:47 | <dyrty> | can look |
| 01:47 | <dyrty> | video1934? do not see vbi0 |
| 01:48 | <captbunzo> | must reboot |
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| 01:48 | <tdb30_> | I don't know then |
| 01:48 | <tdb30_> | I have a /dev/vbi0 |
| 01:48 | <dyrty> | u have a PVR250? |
| 01:48 | <tdb30_> | 350 |
| 01:49 | <dyrty> | hmm 250 here |
| 01:49 | <tdb30_> | also you proably want to use /dev/video or /dev/video1 or whatever for your video.. to answer your first part. |
| 01:49 | <dyrty> | ok |
| 01:49 | <overridex> | has anyone here made this ir blaster? http://www.lirc.org/improved_transmitter.html |
| 01:50 | <dyrty> | ug lol just see video1934 |
| 01:50 | <tdb30_> | I'm not familiar with vbi on the 250 .... I'm not familiar on it on a 350 either but I know that /dev/vbi0 exists for me |
| 01:50 | <tdb30_> | is it symlinked to /v4l/something |
| 01:50 | <dyrty> | using 2.6 kernel should I switch back to 2.4? |
| 01:51 | <tdb30_> | don't know if it would help or not. |
| 01:53 | <o_cee> | there is no vbi suppport with the x50 cards |
| 01:53 | <tdb30_> | not even on the 350? |
| 01:57 | <Salec> | damn |
| 02:02 | <Octane> | hi o_cee |
| 02:02 | <o_cee> | hello |
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| 02:10 | <captbunzo> | dma working now, audio down again. |
| 02:11 | <Chutt> | oh wow |
| 02:11 | <rehan> | hi - is there a way to setup mythtv without using mythtv-setup? I don't have an X server on the backend machine |
| 02:11 | <Chutt> | is someone on the users list actually saying that they want to display hdtv resolution, fully decoded video across a network? |
| 02:11 | <Chutt> | rehan, export the display. |
| 02:11 | <rehan> | yep - tried that, mythtv-setup segfaults |
| 02:11 | <o_cee> | is the guy who wrote myth_categorize here? |
| 02:12 | <captbunzo> | Octane: should I be using us-bcast or us-cable? |
| 02:12 | <captbunzo> | I assume cable for cable, right? |
| 02:12 | <o_cee> | maaaaybe |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | captbunzo, cable |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | rehan, exporting the display works perfectly here |
| 02:14 | <rehan> | is there a text-mode setup or a guide on how to configure some text files |
| 02:14 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 02:14 | <Octane> | Chutt, any idea why my video is interlaced even though deinterlace is checked? i compiled with xvmc, it worked but w/ interlaced video.... recompiled w/o but now its interlaced |
| 02:14 | <Chutt> | octane, nope |
| 02:14 | <Octane> | should i try cvs? |
| 02:15 | <Chutt> | if you want |
| 02:15 | <Octane> | would it matter on this issue? |
| 02:15 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 02:16 | <Chutt> | since it's a config issue on your end |
| 02:16 | <Octane> | Deinterlace is set to 1 though ugh, it worked before i messed with xvmc |
| 02:16 | <Octane> | that was stupid of me to try xvmc |
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| 02:20 | <Octane> | Chutt any steps i cant take to troubleshoot/debug? |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | not that i'm aware of |
| 02:21 | <Octane> | maybe myth still thinks im using xvmc so it ignores Deinterlace's value |
| 02:21 | <o_cee> | do a distclean, that always helps :) |
| 02:21 | <Octane> | i did |
| 02:22 | <dyrty> | anyone here use a PVR250? |
| 02:22 | <Octane> | make clean distclean you mean? |
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| 02:22 | <Salec> | hey guys i'm trying to get the tv out of the pvr350 to work and am having a few probs |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | salec, ask in the ivtv channel. |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | or on the ivtv list. |
| 02:23 | <o_cee> | Salec: wtf |
| 02:24 | <thor_> | Chutt, yes ... and they seem very proud of their GigE interface |
| 02:24 | <Chutt> | o_cee, hey, so, have you touched gant at all? |
| 02:24 | <Octane> | i was just about to ask that |
| 02:24 | <Octane> | thats the only theme i use :) |
| 02:24 | <o_cee> | Chutt: nope, not really.. just moved the files and change the dirname ;) |
| 02:24 | <Chutt> | thor, uncompressed hdtv is something like 750mbps |
| 02:25 | <Chutt> | o_cee, you had said something about an update before you took off last month :p |
| 02:25 | <Salec> | kthey are being dicks in that chan |
| 02:25 | <thor_> | and if I parsed correctly, the same little box is supposed to be a firewall and mail server ? |
| 02:25 | <o_cee> | heh, yeah :) i know... i'll try to look at it asap |
| 02:25 | <Chutt> | thor, i thought one guy was wanting to use an xbox |
| 02:25 | <Chutt> | which, afaik, only does 100mbps =) |
| 02:25 | <thor_> | yeah, something like that |
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| 02:25 | <captbunzo> | grrrr.... |
| 02:26 | <thor_> | :-) |
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| 02:26 | <thor_> | how goes the micro-myth-app framework ? |
| 02:27 | <captbunzo> | something has gone all to heck |
| 02:27 | <captbunzo> | I rebooted. |
| 02:27 | <captbunzo> | and now I can't get sound to work. |
| 02:27 | <captbunzo> | and I am getting this vertical banding that sucks. |
| 02:27 | <captbunzo> | arg! |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | sound's probably the wrong msp3400 |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | and the vertical banding should go away after changing the inputs |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | either way, you're in the wrong channel to be discussing ivtv related problems |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | thor, i haven't touched anything, been working and stuff |
| 02:29 | <thor_> | ah, work |
| 02:29 | <thor_> | yup |
| 02:29 | <captbunzo> | woohoo! |
| 02:29 | <captbunzo> | Chutt: is there a RIGHT channel around here? |
| 02:30 | <o_cee> | ivtv-users mailinglist |
| 02:30 | <Chutt> | #ivtv-dev |
| 02:30 | <o_cee> | noooo |
| 02:30 | <Chutt> | or whatever the hell it's called |
| 02:30 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | i'm really quite fed up with people bitching to _me_ about ivtv problems |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | instead of to kevin =) |
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| 02:31 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 02:31 | <captbunzo> | I used to run an open source project called SquirrelMail. |
| 02:31 | <captbunzo> | I was just glad that people were interested in our software. |
| 02:32 | <o_cee> | Chutt: no news from Mr. Engel? seems to be very promising progress on the 350 support |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | o_cee, he posted an updated patch a few hours ago |
| 02:32 | <o_cee> | oh? haven't gotten it yet then |
| 02:32 | <o_cee> | getting quite large delays sometimes |
| 02:33 | <Chutt> | captbunzo, ya, see, that 'just glad to have users' feeling goes away once your -users mailing list starts getting > 100 messages a day |
| 02:33 | <o_cee> | hehehehe |
| 02:33 | <captbunzo> | hmmnn, let me think, SquirrelMail was Sourceforge Project of the Month for Dec 02 (or so) |
| 02:34 | <captbunzo> | did we have busy mailing lists, let me remember. |
| 02:34 | <captbunzo> | </sarcasm> |
| 02:34 | <captbunzo> | how about for some real fun - help me figure out what the heck is causing this vertical banding. |
| 02:35 | <Chutt> | change inputs on the card, like i said. |
| 02:35 | <Chutt> | hell, search the ivtv list archives |
| 02:35 | <Chutt> | that's been discussed often enough |
| 02:35 | <Octane> | when chutt will be old with grandchildren he will get the glad to have users feeling :) |
| 02:35 | <o_cee> | new patch sounds promising |
| 02:35 | <captbunzo> | hehe |
| 02:35 | <captbunzo> | change inputs on the card? |
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| 02:36 | <Chutt> | test_ioctl -p 0 ; test_ioctl -p 4 |
| 02:36 | <Octane> | captbunzo try running the test_ioctl stuff we did earlie again |
| 02:36 | <Chutt> | if that doesn't work, unload/reload the driver |
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| 02:37 | <captbunzo> | i've tried that./ |
| 02:37 | <captbunzo> | it didn't help! |
| 02:37 | <Octane> | okay |
| 02:37 | <Octane> | do this |
| 02:37 | <Octane> | remove your pvr250 |
| 02:37 | <Octane> | and mail it to PO Box 2391 |
| 02:37 | <Octane> | New York, NY 10025 |
| 02:37 | <captbunzo> | hehe |
| 02:38 | <captbunzo> | at least that was a good answer :) |
| 02:38 | <captbunzo> | I'm getting there, slowly but surely. |
| 02:38 | <Octane> | i will send you pictures of it working :D |
| 02:38 | <captbunzo> | and I figured out the DMA crap all by myself. |
| 02:38 | <Octane> | captbunzo it has taken the average mythtv user a month to set up his first mythtv box |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | i doubt that |
| 02:38 | <Octane> | that would actually be an interesting survey |
| 02:39 | <thor_> | Chi squared distribution I'd bet |
| 02:39 | <Octane> | i am talking about getting a 100% working mythtv box that needs no tweaking |
| 02:39 | <Chutt> | people who are smart and use knoppmyth or follow jarod's walkthrough perfectly should be up in a couple hours |
| 02:39 | <Chutt> | assuming their hardware doesn't suck |
| 02:39 | <captbunzo> | not suprising. |
| 02:39 | <captbunzo> | jarod's walkthrough - that sounds promising. |
| 02:39 | <captbunzo> | where can I find that? |
| 02:39 | <o_cee> | gogle |
| 02:39 | <Chutt> | it's for redhat |
| 02:40 | <Octane> | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/ |
| 02:40 | <Octane> | or fedora |
| 02:40 | <Octane> | the first time i set up myth i did jarod's walkthrough and it took me about 6 hours |
| 02:41 | <captbunzo> | gotta love it - "get and install apt"... |
| 02:41 | <captbunzo> | er, Debian, done... |
| 02:42 | <captbunzo> | hmmnn. |
| 02:42 | <Chutt> | if you're using debian, just go source :p |
| 02:42 | <captbunzo> | alsa. |
| 02:42 | <captbunzo> | for what, all of it? |
| 02:42 | <Chutt> | naw, just for mythtv |
| 02:43 | <captbunzo> | well, there's someone that has a apt repository for mythtv. |
| 02:43 | <Chutt> | yes |
| 02:43 | <captbunzo> | that part was no trouble. |
| 02:43 | <Octane> | atrpms |
| 02:43 | <Octane> | just do that |
| 02:44 | <captbunzo> | Chutt: is there some reason to not use that apt source? |
| 02:44 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:44 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 02:44 | <captbunzo> | okie, seems to be working fine. |
| 02:44 | <o_cee> | i've been running cvs from the beginning |
| 02:44 | <o_cee> | :) |
| 02:44 | <captbunzo> | hehe. :) |
| 02:44 | <Chutt> | you're just having problems with the ivtv driver |
| 02:44 | <captbunzo> | cvs is fun. |
| 02:44 | <captbunzo> | something like that, perhaps. |
| 02:44 | <Chutt> | not myth |
| 02:44 | <o_cee> | more exciting |
| 02:45 | * | captbunzo is looking over jarod's walkthough. |
| 02:45 | <captbunzo> | do you guys recommend using alsa or not? |
| 02:45 | <Octane> | yes |
| 02:45 | <rehan> | aha - found out why my mythtv-setup failed - i didn't install the mythtv-frontend deb, which contains the themes |
| 02:46 | <rehan> | i must say - it looks jolly nice |
| 02:46 | <Chutt> | alsa's only recommended because it supports full-duplex on more cards than the stock oss drivers do |
| 02:46 | <Chutt> | and newer cards, as well |
| 02:46 | <Chutt> | if the kernel drivers work, use em |
| 02:47 | <Salec> | anyone here have a pvr350? |
| 02:47 | <Octane> | why dont you ask one more time |
| 02:47 | <o_cee> | Salec: DAMMIT! i WAS helping you in the right channel |
| 02:47 | <Octane> | lol |
| 02:47 | <Salec> | no you werne't |
| 02:47 | <o_cee> | dumbfuck |
| 02:47 | <Salec> | you were being a dick |
| 02:47 | <Octane> | lol again |
| 02:47 | <Octane> | lol a third time |
| 02:47 | <o_cee> | hehe :) |
| 02:48 | <o_cee> | if you can't fugire out how to activate verbose logging for X, you're to stupid to play with myth anyway |
| 02:48 | <captbunzo> | does a remote frontend allow you to watch tv from another box? |
| 02:48 | <captbunzo> | as in one that the tv card is NOT in? |
| 02:48 | <Rroet> | hidiho |
| 02:48 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 02:49 | <captbunzo> | cool. |
| 02:49 | <captbunzo> | I suppose that'll really only work well on a LAN. |
| 02:49 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 02:49 | o_cee | is now known as o_cee\afk |
| 02:50 | <thor_> | hmmm ... WMA seeking patch |
| 02:50 | <captbunzo> | what's the url for that better interface to the list archives? |
| 02:50 | <Chutt> | linked to from the list section of the webpage |
| 02:50 | <Chutt> | the ivtv lists are elsewhere, 'course |
| 02:51 | <thor_> | play your WMA's on your PC in iTunes by copying them to your linux-based myth box .... gotta do it |
| 02:51 | <Octane> | captbunzo i gave you the url earlier |
| 02:52 | <captbunzo> | I know, I rebooted. |
| 02:52 | <captbunzo> | I guess I can check my history. :) |
| 02:52 | <Octane> | that would be too much work! |
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| 02:53 | <Octane> | your getting roytal treatment tonight compared to other users, dont waste it on url questions :D |
| 02:53 | <captbunzo> | woogoo... |
| 02:53 | <captbunzo> | that was meant to be a "woohoo" that I found the url. |
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| 02:54 | <captbunzo> | I am totally lost on this "switch inputs" and vertical banding goes away bit. |
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| 02:56 | <captbunzo> | ha! screw that. |
| 02:56 | <captbunzo> | it just magically went away... |
| 02:56 | <Chutt> | thor, did you see that patch? |
| 02:56 | <captbunzo> | hmmnn. get lirc working or sleep. |
| 02:56 | <Chutt> | it closes, reopens, and then seeks to the position |
| 02:57 | <captbunzo> | hmmnn... :) |
| 02:57 | <Chutt> | since those files don't have (afaik) seek tables or whatnot |
| 02:57 | <Chutt> | it's going to have to regenerate the internal data in libavformat each and every time you seek |
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| 02:59 | <Octane> | Chutt you must in your inifinite knowledge know of something |
| 02:59 | <thor_> | ah |
| 02:59 | <thor_> | crap |
| 03:00 | <Octane> | mythtv was working perfect, then being the overachiever i am, i compiled with xvmc and interlacing just wont go away even though i have recompiled w/o it |
| 03:00 | <captbunzo> | Octane: why do you want to get rid of interlacing? |
| 03:01 | <Octane> | captbunzo: youll see when you get your box running hehe |
| 03:01 | <captbunzo> | (I know that is a basic, stupid question) |
| 03:01 | <Octane> | it creaters terrible scanlines on fast-moving video |
| 03:01 | <captbunzo> | it's running |
| 03:01 | <captbunzo> | ah... |
| 03:01 | <Octane> | wow i really need to start using xchat, i have so many spelling mistakes |
| 03:02 | <captbunzo> | I'm curious to understand the technical side of what it means to "get rid of interlacing". |
| 03:02 | <Octane> | to make it de0interlaced |
| 03:02 | <Octane> | - |
| 03:02 | <Octane> | the nvidia drivers dont do it |
| 03:02 | <Octane> | on linux at least |
| 03:02 | <Octane> | so myth tries to |
| 03:03 | <captbunzo> | I assume there is a FM for that too? :) |
| 03:04 | <Octane> | lol no |
| 03:04 | <captbunzo> | hehe. |
| 03:04 | <captbunzo> | where can I find a list of the keys that control mythtv while watching tv? |
| 03:05 | <Octane> | keys.txt in mythtv |
| 03:05 | <captbunzo> | thanks. |
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| 03:06 | <thor_> | anyone used Windows Media Player .... I'm assuming I want "Protect Content" turned off in the Options Dialog |
| 03:06 | <Octane> | it doesnt make a difference but turn it off |
| 03:06 | <thor_> | k |
| 03:06 | <o_cee\afk> | thor_: get Zoom Player instead |
| 03:06 | <thor_> | I just need a .wma to test some stuff with |
| 03:07 | <o_cee\afk> | oh |
| 03:07 | <o_cee\afk> | nevermind :) |
| 03:07 | <captbunzo> | Octane: is that mythtv (for keys.txt) in the source, or what? |
| 03:07 | <Octane> | yes |
| 03:07 | <Octane> | or in /usr/share/doc or whatever |
| 03:08 | <Octane> | while on the subject of media players for windows, Media Player Classic is probably the best :D |
| 03:08 | <Chutt> | or just run mythweb, and go to the keybindings setup page in there |
| 03:08 | <Octane> | that too |
| 03:08 | <o_cee\afk> | or locate keys.txt |
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| 03:09 | <Octane> | that too |
| 03:09 | <Octane> | or slam your hands on the keyboard and have a pen & paper ready |
| 03:09 | <o_cee\afk> | anyone looked at the categorize script? dunno how to add foreign characthers.. now all my shows are "Reality" :) |
| 03:09 | <o_cee\afk> | that too |
| 03:09 | <o_cee\afk> | :) |
| 03:09 | <Octane> | or talk to your computer |
| 03:11 | <Octane> | here is media player classic if anyone is interested |
| 03:11 | <Octane> | http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/ |
| 03:11 | <Octane> | the guy has worked on a trillion other open source video-related projects |
| 03:11 | <Octane> | they are all there |
| 03:11 | <Octane> | time to heat up some soup |
| 03:14 | <o_cee\afk> | Zoom Player is still the best. |
| 03:15 | <captbunzo> | fun stuff. :) |
| 03:16 | <Octane> | no! |
| 03:16 | <Octane> | try mpc please :) |
| 03:17 | <o_cee\afk> | never :) |
| 03:17 | <Octane> | do it or i stop using gant |
| 03:17 | <o_cee\afk> | d'oh. allright ;) |
| 03:17 | <Octane> | i bought two controllers today for my mythbox |
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| 03:17 | <Octane> | gamepads i mean |
| 03:18 | <o_cee\afk> | i bought an xbox instead :) |
| 03:18 | <o_cee\afk> | alot more fun |
| 03:18 | <Octane> | lol |
| 03:18 | <Octane> | 10 bucks each |
| 03:18 | <Octane> | and they rock |
| 03:19 | <captbunzo> | man, this is very cool... |
| 03:19 | <captbunzo> | I'm going to have to hookup a tv out now. |
| 03:20 | <Octane> | yes it is |
| 03:21 | <o_cee\afk> | captbunzo: now you just need a cooler theme. i recommend using G.A.N.T. ;D |
| 03:25 | <Octane> | i didnt know it was an acronym |
| 03:25 | <captbunzo> | hehe. |
| 03:26 | <captbunzo> | what how does one open the program finder? |
| 03:27 | <Octane> | captbunzo |
| 03:27 | <Octane> | i dont think i have ever met a lazier person |
| 03:28 | <o_cee\afk> | heheheh |
| 03:29 | <captbunzo> | oh give me a break. |
| 03:29 | <captbunzo> | its 2:30 AM here. |
| 03:29 | <Octane> | beat ya, its 3:30 here |
| 03:29 | <captbunzo> | I read the stinking keys.txt file. |
| 03:29 | <captbunzo> | oof! |
| 03:29 | <captbunzo> | the keys file doesn't say how to get to the program finder. |
| 03:29 | <Octane> | its in the gui dude |
| 03:29 | <o_cee\afk> | wich "program finder" do you mean? |
| 03:30 | <Octane> | did you run mythfilldatabase? |
| 03:31 | <captbunzo> | if I didn't run mythfilldatabase then I would have any channel data. |
| 03:31 | <captbunzo> | yes, I did. |
| 03:31 | <captbunzo> | I'm not a total dork. |
| 03:31 | <captbunzo> | I just can't figure out how to get to the program finder. |
| 03:32 | <Octane> | in the gui |
| 03:32 | <Octane> | TV |
| 03:32 | <Octane> | Schedule Recording |
| 03:32 | <Octane> | Program Finder |
| 03:32 | <Octane> | voila |
| 03:32 | <captbunzo> | hehe. |
| 03:33 | <captbunzo> | I hadn't gone into Schedule Recording yet. |
| 03:33 | <captbunzo> | hehe. |
| 03:33 | <Octane> | ... |
| 03:33 | <Octane> | lol |
| 03:33 | <o_cee\afk> | lazy :) |
| 03:33 | <Octane> | for all the patience ive had with you someone must help me with my interlaced video problem |
| 03:33 | <captbunzo> | ok. |
| 03:33 | <captbunzo> | tell me where you started. |
| 03:33 | <Octane> | lol |
| 03:34 | <captbunzo> | seriously. |
| 03:34 | <Octane> | i was being a smartass and i tried mythtv with xvmc support |
| 03:34 | <Octane> | when xvmc is enabled, video cant be manipulated, so no deinterlacing |
| 03:34 | <Octane> | i disabled it and recompiled |
| 03:34 | <Octane> | xvmc is off, but video is still interlaced |
| 03:35 | <captbunzo> | hmmnn. |
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| 03:35 | <captbunzo> | you were right. |
| 03:35 | <captbunzo> | me being able to help you with that IS funny. |
| 03:35 | <Octane> | lol :D |
| 03:35 | <captbunzo> | do you have an amazon.com wishlist? |
| 03:35 | <o_cee\afk> | muhahhaa :) |
| 03:35 | <Octane> | 1. i dont and 2. dude thanks but i dont deserve SHIT |
| 03:36 | <Octane> | none of the devs have one either btw |
| 03:36 | <captbunzo> | that's funny. |
| 03:36 | <captbunzo> | oh well. |
| 03:36 | <captbunzo> | they should |
| 03:36 | <Octane> | they ignore any wishlist/donation requests |
| 03:36 | <o_cee\afk> | kevin (the ivtv guy) has one |
| 03:37 | <Octane> | when i become the major developer for mythgame, ill have wishlist |
| 03:37 | virsucks | is now known as virsys |
| 03:37 | <captbunzo> | yep. |
| 03:37 | <Octane> | but that wont happen for another 4 years |
| 03:37 | <Octane> | lol |
| 03:37 | <Octane> | 4 million i mean |
| 03:37 | <captbunzo> | hehe... |
| 03:37 | <Octane> | o_cee\afk am i skipping a step |
| 03:38 | <Octane> | make clean distclean |
| 03:38 | <Octane> | configure |
| 03:38 | <Octane> | qmake mythtv.pro |
| 03:38 | <Octane> | make |
| 03:38 | <o_cee\afk> | ./configure |
| 03:38 | <o_cee\afk> | but, no |
| 03:38 | <Octane> | right right |
| 03:38 | <o_cee\afk> | do a cvs update as well maybe :) |
| 03:38 | <o_cee\afk> | check the db manually for the deinterlace setting |
| 03:39 | <o_cee\afk> | so that there's not two of the same setting or something fucked up like that |
| 03:39 | <o_cee\afk> | try disabling it, then enabling it.. |
| 03:39 | <o_cee\afk> | remember that you need to cycle throu it all to save it (finish) |
| 03:40 | <Octane> | dude |
| 03:40 | <Octane> | yah i did |
| 03:40 | <Octane> | dude i think i did it |
| 03:40 | <Octane> | i dropped my settings table |
| 03:40 | <o_cee\afk> | wh00p :) |
| 03:40 | <Octane> | and ran the statesments to set it back to defaults |
| 03:41 | <Octane> | omg oc oh no!! it made blue my default theme, what should i do!!! |
| 03:41 | <o_cee\afk> | muhahhaha! :) |
| 03:41 | <o_cee\afk> | settings -> appearance |
| 03:41 | * | Octane faints |
| 03:41 | <o_cee\afk> | quickly! |
| 03:41 | <Octane> | lol |
| 03:41 | <Octane> | i cant its too late |
| 03:41 | <Octane> | i have melted |
| 03:41 | <o_cee\afk> | d'oh |
| 03:45 | <captbunzo> | one more dumb question, then I'll install my themes and go to bed,. |
| 03:46 | <captbunzo> | what a shame |
| 03:46 | <captbunzo> | I figured it out for myself. :) |
| 03:47 | <o_cee\afk> | :P |
| 03:48 | <captbunzo> | for installing themes, do you just copy them to the themes directory, or is there something more? |
| 03:48 | <o_cee\afk> | that's it |
| 03:48 | <captbunzo> | gotta install G.A.N.T., afterall. :) |
| 03:48 | <o_cee\afk> | yeah :) |
| 03:48 | <o_cee\afk> | hehe |
| 03:51 | <Octane> | im back in business baby! |
| 03:51 | <o_cee\afk> | :D |
| 03:51 | <captbunzo> | woohoo, "installed". |
| 03:51 | <captbunzo> | let's give er a try... |
| 03:51 | <captbunzo> | Octane: regular, or your fancy non-interlaced mode? |
| 03:51 | <Octane> | captbunzo im in a good mood, so ask me as many questions as you want! |
| 03:51 | <captbunzo> | hehe |
| 03:52 | <Octane> | my soups all cold now |
| 03:52 | <Octane> | i was mtythvsetup happy |
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| 03:53 | <captbunzo> | hehe. |
| 03:53 | <captbunzo> | my glass of orange juice is warm. |
| 03:53 | <Octane> | im going to drink from the coke bottle now brb |
| 03:53 | <captbunzo> | ooooh, pretty. |
| 03:54 | <Octane> | im gonan call my gf and tell her i fixe dit |
| 03:54 | <Octane> | she was pissed off at me cuz i was ignoring her while we were on the phone |
| 03:54 | <Octane> | because i was trying to fix it |
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| 03:54 | <captbunzo> | man, mythtv is freakin awesome. |
| 03:54 | <Octane> | werd. |
| 03:54 | <Salec> | don't say that |
| 03:55 | * | Salec can't get it to work with his pvr 350 ;_; |
| 03:55 | <knight-> | heh |
| 03:55 | <knight-> | hey |
| 03:55 | <captbunzo> | so, are there other additional themes besides the 4 on the main site? |
| 03:56 | <Salec> | knight-: you wouldn't by anychangce have a pvr350 would ya? |
| 03:56 | <Octane> | LOL |
| 03:56 | <Salec> | ;_; |
| 03:56 | <Octane> | Salec now youre like that bum outside of mcdonalds in my neighborhood |
| 03:56 | <o_cee\afk> | Salec: WRONG CHANNEL STILL |
| 03:56 | <knight-> | Salec, no i use pvr250's... you need to visit the ivtv website. |
| 03:57 | <knight-> | captbunzo, yes, but you'll have to search the mailing lists for them. |
| 03:57 | <o_cee\afk> | you need to wait a couple of weeks before getting the 350 up, drivers and myth cvs should be alot better by then. |
| 03:57 | <captbunzo> | that's ok. |
| 03:57 | <o_cee\afk> | captbunzo: none that's updated and work with cvs i'd say |
| 03:57 | <captbunzo> | I probably don't care that much. |
| 03:57 | <o_cee\afk> | or .13 |
| 03:58 | <captbunzo> | Purplegalaxy is broken. |
| 03:58 | <o_cee\afk> | probably just gant and visor that actually works |
| 03:58 | <captbunzo> | ah. |
| 03:58 | <captbunzo> | what a shame. |
| 03:58 | <o_cee\afk> | yeah |
| 03:58 | <captbunzo> | PG is pretty. |
| 03:58 | <o_cee\afk> | *ahem* |
| 03:58 | <captbunzo> | ahem? |
| 03:59 | <o_cee\afk> | i made gant if you didn't notice.. that's the one you should use :) |
| 03:59 | <captbunzo> | ah... hehe. |
| 03:59 | <captbunzo> | gant was the one I looked at first. |
| 04:00 | <captbunzo> | my wife's favorite color is purple. |
| 04:00 | <captbunzo> | she REALLY likes purple. |
| 04:00 | <o_cee\afk> | bah |
| 04:00 | <knight-> | really, myth should identify what version themes are, and then should use limited theme functionality for old themes |
| 04:00 | <o_cee\afk> | sissy |
| 04:00 | <o_cee\afk> | :) |
| 04:00 | <captbunzo> | so I have this natural inclinations towards all things purple... :) |
| 04:00 | <knight-> | to maintain "backwards compatibility" |
| 04:00 | <captbunzo> | hehe. |
| 04:00 | <captbunzo> | yeah, it'd be nice if mythtv didn't just explode when it had a theme issue. |
| 04:01 | <captbunzo> | hmmnn, let's see if sleek blows up as well.... |
| 04:01 | <o_cee\afk> | it's pretty new |
| 04:02 | <captbunzo> | Octane: btw, aside from lirc/remote control, I seem to have gotten mythtv up and working in just a couple of days? |
| 04:02 | <captbunzo> | with a little help. :) |
| 04:03 | <captbunzo> | sleek works. |
| 04:03 | <captbunzo> | pretty simple, not bad. |
| 04:03 | <captbunzo> | gotta try out visor... |
| 04:03 | <captbunzo> | then I'll switch back to gant. :) |
| 04:06 | <Octane> | captbunzo: well done :D |
| 04:06 | <Octane> | captbunzo: but now youll see what i mean itll take you a month untl you leave it alone |
| 04:06 | <captbunzo> | Octane: fun to tweak. |
| 04:06 | <Octane> | sure is |
| 04:07 | <captbunzo> | Octane: is there a way to get change the number of channel rows in the EPG? |
| 04:07 | <Octane> | edit the database or use mythweb to do it |
| 04:07 | <Octane> | ohh oops |
| 04:07 | <Octane> | yes in the setup |
| 04:07 | <Octane> | under uhmm |
| 04:07 | <Octane> | i forget |
| 04:07 | <Octane> | tv settings somewhere |
| 04:12 | <captbunzo> | yep |
| 04:12 | <captbunzo> | found it |
| 04:12 | <captbunzo> | anyhow, thanks again for the help. |
| 04:13 | <captbunzo> | sorry again for being a bit crabby earlier. |
| 04:13 | <captbunzo> | Octane, I assume you are active on the lists? |
| 04:13 | <captbunzo> | ah, whatever. |
| 04:13 | <captbunzo> | night all. |
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| 04:13 | <Octane> | lsnot at all |
| 04:14 | <Octane> | not active* |
| 04:14 | <Octane> | well i am active when i have a problem or on that rare ocassion where ive done something useful lol |
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| 05:57 | pcjabber | is now known as PCjabber-solderi |
| 05:59 | <PCjabber-solderi> | heh, diodes matter, on which way they are soldered, right? |
| 05:59 | PCjabber-solderi | is now known as PCjabber |
| 06:00 | <PCjabber> | and if so, how do I tell the direction of them? |
| 06:00 | <StuartL> | There's a black stripe. |
| 06:00 | <StuartL> | That black stripe is the cathode/negative. |
| 06:00 | <StuartL> | That's "downstream". |
| 06:00 | <StuartL> | So if you connected the cathode to 0v and the anode to 5v it would conduct and short out your supply. |
| 06:00 | <StuartL> | The other way round wouldn't. |
| 06:04 | <PCjabber> | k thanks =) |
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| 06:38 | <overridex> | has anyone here made this ir blaster? http://www.lirc.org/improved_transmitter.html |
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| 07:51 | <bernd> | hello |
| 07:52 | bernd | is now known as ronino2 |
| 07:52 | <ronino2> | hello again |
| 07:52 | <ronino2> | i'm trying to compile 0.13 |
| 07:52 | <ronino2> | but i doesn't go on with globalsettings.cpp |
| 07:52 | <ronino2> | the computer is getting slow, the compiler seems to grab all the cpu |
| 07:53 | <ronino2> | is this a known issue? |
| 07:53 | <ronino2> | i had the same problem with globalsettings.cpp with version 0.12 |
| 07:54 | <oc> | no such problems |
| 07:54 | <oc> | do "make clean && make distclean && make |
| 07:54 | <oc> | do "make clean && make distclean && make" |
| 07:55 | <oc> | no |
| 07:55 | <oc> | do "make clean && make distclean && qmake && make" :) |
| 07:55 | <ronino2> | hehe |
| 07:55 | <ronino2> | maybe it's got to do with the -march=pentiumpro gcc flag |
| 07:55 | <ronino2> | i'm running an amd duron |
| 07:55 | <oc> | why so? |
| 07:55 | <ronino2> | i don't know |
| 07:55 | <oc> | pentiumpro should always work |
| 07:56 | <ronino2> | i'm just trying to find out the reason |
| 07:56 | <oc> | what error do you get? have you tried distclean? are you running 0.13 or CVS? |
| 07:56 | <ronino2> | there is no error |
| 07:56 | <ronino2> | it just eats up all the cpu and doesn't get further with globalsettings.cpp |
| 07:57 | <ronino2> | it compiles that file for half an hour and more |
| 07:57 | <ronino2> | i guess that's not normal |
| 07:57 | <oc> | then it's more likely to be like a gcc problem |
| 07:57 | <oc> | depends on your cpu |
| 07:57 | <oc> | it takes time to compile myth |
| 07:57 | <ronino2> | i know |
| 07:57 | <ronino2> | but not hours for one file ;-) |
| 07:57 | <oc> | what version of gcc? |
| 07:57 | <oc> | you said 30 mins :) |
| 07:58 | <ronino2> | gcc (GCC) 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-4mdk) |
| 07:58 | <ronino2> | damn ;-) |
| 07:58 | <oc> | gcc (GCC) 3.2.3 20030422 (Gentoo Linux 1.4 3.2.3-r3, propolice) |
| 07:58 | <oc> | that one's working at least |
| 07:58 | <oc> | dunno, mail -users or something |
| 07:58 | <ronino2> | oc: can you send me your gcc? ;-) |
| 07:58 | <oc> | probably not a good idea :) |
| 07:59 | <ronino2> | hehe |
| 07:59 | <oc> | it's glocalsettings.cpp in mythfrontend? |
| 08:00 | <ronino2> | yes |
| 08:00 | <oc> | and you still didn't answer my questions before |
| 08:00 | <ronino2> | there's only one such file |
| 08:00 | <oc> | (mythvideo has one as well) |
| 08:01 | <oc> | (and mythmusic) |
| 08:01 | <ronino2> | i didn't try distclean |
| 08:01 | <ronino2> | and it's 0.13 |
| 08:01 | <oc> | try distclean |
| 08:01 | <oc> | and clean |
| 08:01 | <oc> | and ./configure |
| 08:01 | <oc> | and qmake |
| 08:01 | <oc> | and make |
| 08:02 | <ronino2> | qmake mythtv.pro exactly, right? |
| 08:02 | <oc> | i don't have to do that, but yeah |
| 08:02 | <oc> | something like that |
| 08:02 | <ronino2> |
