| --- | Log | opened Wed Jan 07 00:00:10 2004 |
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| 00:27 | * | kvandivo looks around. |
| 00:28 | <thor_> | I look around, I look around |
| 00:31 | <kvandivo> | jim paris's thing works fine for me.. |
| 00:38 | <Chutt> | have to be in 'always use advanced recording screen' mode |
| 00:39 | <kvandivo> | boom. :) |
| 00:39 | <Chutt> | i'll recompile in debug mode after i get done rearranging the recording profile option setups |
| 00:40 | <Chutt> | unless you want to run it through valgrind, kvandivo? =) |
| 00:41 | <kvandivo> | sure.. give me a sec |
| 00:46 | <kvandivo> | doesn't seem to like deleting 'record' in the ProgramInfo destructor |
| 00:47 | <mdz> | valgrind should tell you why |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | obviously, but why? :p |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | that was in the gdb backtrace =) |
| 00:48 | <kvandivo> | getting an invalid read of size 4 on that line, and an invalid write of size 4 in settings.cpp line 42 |
| 00:49 | <kvandivo> | got 3 or 4 in a row invalid writes on line 42.. |
| 00:50 | <Chutt> | that's just the invalid record variable, i'd think |
| 00:50 | <kvandivo> | then the invalid read on the iterator..... |
| 00:50 | <kvandivo> | Use of uninitialised value of size 4 on line 46 |
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| 00:51 | <Chutt> | oh, oops |
| 00:51 | <Chutt> | programinfo doesn't overload =, does it? |
| 00:52 | <kvandivo> | negatory |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | that'd be it |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | lemme clean stuff up and then i'll commit a fix |
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| 00:55 | <Chutt> | default = operator would copy the value of record |
| 00:55 | <Chutt> | shouldn't do that =) |
| 00:57 | <kvandivo> | nope. that's not real helpful in this instance |
| 00:57 | <Chutt> | i'll look over your patch and stuff tomorrow, k? |
| 00:57 | <kvandivo> | guess that explains why it made it through the loop a couple of times first as it properly killed off things |
| 00:57 | <kvandivo> | ya.. that's totally fine |
| 00:58 | <Chutt> | right off, i'd like the table names to be a little longer |
| 00:58 | <kvandivo> | i've got it working fine in my tree. when you decide to bestow it upon the world is up to you. :) |
| 00:58 | <Chutt> | better to not abbreviate |
| 00:58 | <kvandivo> | not a problem |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | that's just a search and replace, though =) |
| 00:59 | <kvandivo> | yep. |
| 01:00 | <kvandivo> | prgRankHelper -> programRankHelper, prgRank -> programRank |
| 01:00 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 01:05 | <kvandivo> | done in my local tree |
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| 01:13 | <Netslayer> | hmm i just commented out a few dozen channels in my .xmltv file and running mythfilldatabase put them back any ideas? |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | how'd you comment them out? |
| 01:14 | <Netslayer> | #... |
| 01:14 | <Netslayer> | well wait |
| 01:14 | <Netslayer> | oh |
| 01:14 | <Netslayer> | it just says they are available ic |
| 01:15 | <Chutt> | that's not commenting them out properly. |
| 01:15 | <Netslayer> | what's the proper way? |
| 01:15 | <Chutt> | read the comments at the top of the file. |
| 01:16 | <Netslayer> | :-) |
| 01:16 | <thor_> | or watch a lot of Wayne's World |
| 01:17 | <Netslayer> | just got three seg faults in a row while trying my first recording with cvs :-S hopefully they will go away everything is set heh |
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| 01:19 | <Chutt> | thanks for getting backtraces |
| 01:20 | <Netslayer> | if it's persistant i'll do that |
| 01:20 | <Netslayer> | even dropped my old db for today |
| 01:21 | <Netslayer> | i love that new visor theme by the way, cudos |
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| 02:03 | <ShockValue> | hi all.. |
| 02:04 | <ShockValue> | when i rip a dvd fromwithin myth.. it seems to keep all audio info (english, spanish, 2 channel, 6 channel etc etc) even though i only select "en 6ch".. is this avoidable, or does it do this for some reason? |
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| 02:10 | <thor_> | perfect is perfect (it removes no information) |
| 02:10 | <ShockValue> | hrm |
| 02:11 | <ShockValue> | i guess I understood 'perfect' to be 'quality', not literal |
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| 02:30 | <robbie> | is it normal for my recorded markup tables to be around 53Mb ? |
| 02:35 | <FryGuy> | has anyone seen errors like this: |
| 02:35 | <FryGuy> | Jan 6 22:26:12 linux kernel: ALSA pcm_lib.c:204: BUG: stream = 1, pos = 0xffff0800, buffer size = 0x800, period size = 0x100 |
| 02:35 | <FryGuy> | Jan 6 22:39:20 linux kernel: ALSA pcm_lib.c:204: BUG: stream = 1, pos = 0xffff0800, buffer size = 0x800, period size = 0x100 |
| 02:37 | <FryGuy> | related to my problem here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=87296;search_string=stopping;guest=1974560&t=search_engine#87296 |
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| 03:58 | <Netslayer> | this is odd there are no errors, but my visor theme on my one myth box doesn't have that translucent/shaded background when in some menu's like tv-watch recordings. any ideas? |
| 04:00 | <thor_> | that myth box does not have have blending available (or it's turned off in Setup) |
| 04:00 | <Henk_Poley> | <clueless reply> Do you use nvidia drivers? |
| 04:00 | <Henk_Poley> | At least KDE won't do translucency on nvidia drivers on my box |
| 04:01 | <Netslayer> | yes both boxes have nvidia drivers installed and are pretty much exactly the same, i set them up at the same time with gentoo and fluxbox, one has visor working perfectly |
| 04:01 | <Netslayer> | blending? hmm |
| 04:02 | <Netslayer> | u mention 'turned off in Setup', which setup are u reffering to |
| 04:04 | <thor_> | Setup --> Appearance --> Next --> Next --> Next --> Use Transparent Boxes |
| 04:06 | <Netslayer> | i had that enabled, with it disabled it now has no background shading, hmm there is a post in the list i'm going through now hopefully i can get this to work |
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| 04:11 | <Netslayer> | dang i'm lost.. |
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| 04:16 | <Netslayer> | sweet i touched something and now it works |
| 04:17 | <Netslayer> | think it was in my qtconfig, change options i can't read on my tv and it works, i'm happy :-) |
| 04:18 | <Netslayer> | dang this theme needs to become the new default, hint hint |
| 04:21 | <Netslayer> | if i'm running two mythfrontends, both of them share the same mythmusic table in the db don't they? so i would have to physicaly go in and hardcode a new table if i want two seperate mythmusic setups. I don't want to listen to the same music as the rest of my family aka |
| 04:21 | <thor_> | playlists are per host |
| 04:21 | <thor_> | including active playlist |
| 04:22 | <Netslayer> | hmm |
| 04:22 | <Netslayer> | ya but the only way to make a playlist is to select one song at a time isn't it |
| 04:22 | <Netslayer> | or select all/none |
| 04:23 | <thor_> | anything that's selectable (artist, album, track, another playlist, etc.) |
| 04:23 | <Netslayer> | going to have to look into that |
| 04:24 | <Netslayer> | having some speed issues also, listing 45GB of mp3's takes about 2 minutes :-/ heh |
| 04:24 | <thor_> | they should come up in groups |
| 04:25 | <Netslayer> | i have it set to '.. tree' checkmark and 'artist album title', and id3 is on right now |
| 04:25 | <Netslayer> | if i go directory, it's only about 10 seconds, so might have to give up the sorting |
| 04:27 | <Netslayer> | wow 3 people put up wifi points in my neighborhood in the last 2 weeks, yikes |
| 04:27 | * | Netslayer crosses his fingers for no interfearance for his wireless myth box |
| 04:27 | <thor_> | that's nothing |
| 04:28 | <thor_> | I've got like 20 here |
| 04:28 | <thor_> | and most are wide open |
| 04:28 | <Netslayer> | wow |
| 04:28 | <Netslayer> | heh 3/4 without wep, all with > 50% signals |
| 04:29 | <Netslayer> | all of em are on channel 6, i'm on 11 heh should be fine unless they start tweaking theirs |
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| 09:27 | <G-funk|laptop> | !recap |
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| 10:07 | <kvandivo> | does that mean you are at the bar now? |
| 10:07 | <kvandivo> | (assuming that before, you were away) |
| 10:08 | * | pahli_bar pours his coffee over kvandivo |
| 10:08 | * | pahli_bar doesn't like funny people in the morning |
| 10:08 | <kvandivo> | mountain dew, man! it's the nectar of the gods! |
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| 11:27 | <eauxnguyen> | !recap |
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| 11:28 | <pahli_bar> | what does !recap do |
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| 12:18 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: ping |
| 12:19 | <Chutt> | hey |
| 12:19 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: mythgallery ready. |
| 12:19 | <Chutt> | sweet |
| 12:19 | <pahli_bar> | will merge within the next hour |
| 12:20 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: i have left the importdirs same as from before. |
| 12:20 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: it needs some work though |
| 12:20 | <Chutt> | that's fine =) |
| 12:20 | <thor_> | cool |
| 12:22 | <pahli_bar> | heh. do you like to put author names in .h/.cpp files |
| 12:22 | <Chutt> | i don't, but i don't mind if others do |
| 12:23 | <kvandivo> | they should have a license notice in them, as well... |
| 12:23 | * | kvandivo sits back down in the corner and hides. |
| 12:23 | <Chutt> | they should |
| 12:23 | <Chutt> | but that's a pain in the ass to do |
| 12:23 | <Chutt> | and keep up dated |
| 12:23 | <pahli_bar> | emacs does it automatically for me. |
| 12:24 | <kvandivo> | i just recently ran my yearly 'sed' script on our code here at work and updated everything.. |
| 12:24 | <pahli_bar> | some auto-insert-mode customization. author name-date-gpl |
| 12:27 | <thor_> | AHHHHH |
| 12:27 | <kvandivo> | need a cigarette, thor? |
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| 12:28 | <thor_> | (note to self, do not ogg_pcm_seek an int when it wants a ogg_int64_t) |
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| 12:29 | <thor_> | sweet |
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| 12:38 | <pahli_bar> | mythgallery committed. let the flames begin |
| 12:40 | * | kvandivo fills his backpack with napalm. |
| 12:41 | <thor_> | someday this wars gonna end |
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| 12:42 | <Chutt> | qtiffio.cpp:54: warning: return of negative value `-1' to `toff_t' |
| 12:43 | <Chutt> | heh =) |
| 12:43 | <sfr> | mythgallery? |
| 12:43 | <sfr> | ;) |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, i generally leave out the 'or (at your option) any later version' of the GPL header |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | since, i don't trust rms =) |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | and perhaps a 'Hit 'menu' to activate this menu' somewhere on the screen? |
| 12:46 | <sfr> | then lameencoder.h|.cpp should be changed as well :) |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | since it's a little non-obvious how do do that |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | well, you wrote it, you get to decide what license it's under |
| 12:55 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, works pretty well =) |
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| 12:58 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: MENU toggles in/out of the menu |
| 12:59 | <Chutt> | yeah, i know |
| 12:59 | <Rroet> | hi all |
| 12:59 | <Chutt> | but it wasn't obvious =) |
| 12:59 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: yeah. its not obvious. :) |
| 12:59 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: maybe the first thumbitem can be a hit menu thingy |
| 13:00 | <Chutt> | or maybe just some text below the menu? |
| 13:00 | <Chutt> | since there's a lot of open space there |
| 13:01 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: heh. i was planning on using that space for exif/image info |
| 13:01 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: but there is room for an additional text item there |
| 13:01 | <Chutt> | or something |
| 13:02 | <Chutt> | i dunno =) |
| 13:03 | <racer32> | pahli: i have some dirs with subdirs, there is no icon for it! |
| 13:03 | <racer32> | pahli: why no text under the previews? |
| 13:03 | <racer32> | flame begun! |
| 13:04 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: it looks for images only one directory deep |
| 13:04 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: in the old version, the filenames used to get cut off. so i moved it to a different place |
| 13:05 | <racer32> | yeah i see, but maybe better to display a map icon for empty dirs? |
| 13:05 | <racer32> | now its just a empty place |
| 13:05 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: no icon at all. there should be a folder icon |
| 13:06 | <racer32> | i am missing the name because the overview is not so good this way i think! |
| 13:06 | <racer32> | now i have to scroll over all the previews to see what the description is |
| 13:06 | <racer32> | no icon at all! |
| 13:07 | <racer32> | brb, my daugther (2 years is yelling (?)) |
| 13:07 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: you need to do a proper cvs co. there are png images in a new subdirectory |
| 13:08 | <Chutt> | cvs -z3 update -PAd |
| 13:08 | <racer32> | i deleted the old dir and got the complete new version |
| 13:08 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: i can add back the text. should not be difficult. maybe make it a customizable option |
| 13:09 | <Chutt> | i like the text up top |
| 13:09 | <pahli_bar> | heh. me too :) |
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| 13:16 | <racer32> | pahli: the png files are there and they are used, if i go with the cursor on a preview i see the map icon under the preview |
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| 13:17 | <racer32> | if i go to the dir with subs i see the complete map icon |
| 13:17 | <racer32> | but if i am on a photo preview there is a empty space on the place of dir with subs |
| 13:17 | <racer32> | get it? |
| 13:18 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: ah. the alpha transparency might be too much for the theme you are using |
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| 13:18 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: or maybe the screen is too dark |
| 13:18 | <racer32> | Gant theme |
| 13:19 | <pahli_bar> | can you send me a screenshot (renchi@pooh.tam.uiuc.edu) |
| 13:20 | <pahli_bar> | the faded icons should be more visible with gant than with the blue theme |
| 13:20 | <kvandivo> | strange that i haven't yet gotten a commit message for that commit.. |
| 13:21 | <Chutt> | server's recovering |
| 13:21 | <kvandivo> | was it feeling under the weather? |
| 13:21 | <Chutt> | var filled up, mailman shat itself |
| 13:21 | <kvandivo> | ahh.. |
| 13:21 | <Chutt> | yadda yadda yadda |
| 13:24 | * | pahli_bar wonders how the new gallery looks on a tv. wife will kill him if he breaks anything in the upgrade |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | it'd take me forever to upgrade right now :p |
| 13:24 | <sfr> | ask her to wait at least until you fixed your bugsm pahli_bar |
| 13:25 | <Chutt> | and i don't have any images on the tv machine =) |
| 13:25 | * | pahli_bar challenges sfr to find one |
| 13:26 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: got the screenshot. looks like the x-server you are running doesn't handle alpha at all. the menu items on the left are supposed to have backgrounds too |
| 13:26 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: i'd have to upgrade to latest cvs, and anyways i've used mythgallery only once. So keep your bugs. :) |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | it probably does alpha, he just doesn't have xrender support enabled in qt |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | or font smoothing |
| 13:28 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: i never took into consideration the fact somebody will run it under vnc |
| 13:28 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: ah. maybe vnc doesn't have xrender extension |
| 13:29 | <roodee> | dang, my mythbackend has been running at 98% cpu for 40 minutes when usually its about 2%..I feel a crash coming.. |
| 13:30 | <pahli_bar> | heh. xchat doesn't have "slap sfr with a dead fish" option like mirc |
| 13:31 | <roodee> | sweet! stoping mythbackend panics the system.. |
| 13:31 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: and i already had fish for dinner |
| 13:31 | <dja> | vnc doesn't have RENDER (at least tight vnc doesn't) |
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| 13:33 | <pahli_bar> | phew. thats a relief. (for a moment it was scary. first bug in 5 minutes of committing) |
| 13:33 | <Chutt> | rest of the ui will look like crap without render as well, so =) |
| 13:34 | <racer32> | pahli: sorry i scared you, will try it in 15 min. on the tv |
| 13:34 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: :) |
| 13:34 | <racer32> | was with my daughter upstairs to test it, could not go to the tv |
| 13:36 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: images is the new directory mentioned before? |
| 13:36 | <pahli_bar> | sfr: yes. |
| 13:36 | * | sfr goes bug-searching |
| 13:36 | * | pahli_bar waits for a pile of bugreports from sfr |
| 13:37 | <pahli_bar> | heh. cool way of making sure your plugin is the most bugfree |
| 13:46 | <_rkulagow> | pahli_bar: just saw the commit on mythgallery. have you given a thought to presenting the EXIF data as well? i had started to look at libexif integration and then Real Life caught up. |
| 13:46 | <pahli_bar> | _rkulagow: on my todo list. |
| 13:47 | <_rkulagow> | great. |
| 13:48 | <pahli_bar> | planned list (in that order): slideshow transitions, exif info, gphoto2 support |
| 13:49 | <Chutt> | what's that image transition where it slowly zooms in and pans slightly called? |
| 13:50 | <_rkulagow> | isn't it called a "push" in movie-land? |
| 13:50 | <pahli_bar> | dunno :( |
| 13:50 | <Chutt> | there's an actual name for it |
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| 13:54 | <dpryo> | Any proud owners of MSI mega pc around? :) |
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| 14:00 | <kvandivo> | proud? |
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| 14:02 | <Henk_Poley> | MSI mega PC has bad audio AFAIK |
| 14:02 | <Henk_Poley> | But don't count on my word for that |
| 14:06 | <dpryo> | I'm setting mine up now. |
| 14:06 | <racer32> | pahli looks good! |
| 14:07 | <racer32> | on TV! |
| 14:07 | <racer32> | sorry again my mistake! |
| 14:07 | <_rkulagow> | chutt: docs update is on the way. also, can you slow down development so i can write user docs already?!?!!!!!!11!!!!!1! |
| 14:08 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:08 | <Chutt> | sorry! |
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| 14:18 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: good to hear |
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| 14:35 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: mythgallery doesn't compile: qtiffio.cpp:22:20: tiffio.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden. Does it now need another package on debian sid? |
| 14:36 | <pahli_bar> | libtiff3g-dev on sid |
| 14:36 | <sfr> | ok |
| 14:37 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: for the curious (me): where/what for do you use libtiff3g now? |
| 14:38 | <pahli_bar> | sfr: tiff loader. qt doesn't have support for tiff files |
| 14:39 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: aha. installing mythgallery now... |
| 14:39 | <pahli_bar> | i need to modify the readme to mention libtiff dev dependency |
| 14:39 | <lykke> | Good afternoon. I got a newbie quistion about the use of TV-tuner card's... When using Mythtv i see, that you have to use a tuner card to record onto you'r harddisk, but is it worth using as a tv-channel remote-thing instead of just switch back to TV on my tv remote from my AV2-s on my TV???... sorry it's a dumb quistion, but can't see what to use it for :) |
| 14:40 | * | pahli_bar wonders if anybody understood what lykke just said |
| 14:41 | <racer32> | Same little font again! |
| 14:41 | <sfr> | i think his question might have been if it's worth to use myth as a full TV set yet. |
| 14:41 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: what resolution. what dpi |
| 14:41 | <lykke> | Hmm.... will try again |
| 14:42 | <racer32> | how can i check dpi? |
| 14:42 | * | thor_ thinks his asking if he can use it as a glorified remote control |
| 14:42 | <lykke> | thor_: yep |
| 14:42 | <sfr> | what is a glorified remote control? |
| 14:42 | <pahli_bar> | and the suspense builds |
| 14:42 | <thor_> | sure, go for it |
| 14:42 | <pahli_bar> | racer32: xdpyinfo. look for resolution |
| 14:42 | <lykke> | thor_: but will i loose some picture quality |
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| 14:43 | <thor_> | I have no idea, 'cause in spite of my good guess, I'm not really sure what you're asking |
| 14:44 | <lykke> | thor_: see that's my problem i do not know what the use of a tuner card is! |
| 14:44 | <Henk_Poley> | lykke: problem is you can only record and watch from one channel, if you have obly one encoder card |
| 14:44 | <sfr> | lykke: are you wondering wether it's worth to use myth as a full TV set, replacing your telly? |
| 14:44 | <lykke> | sfr: no |
| 14:44 | <thor_> | don't thing "tuner", think "encoder" |
| 14:45 | <lykke> | thor_: ok |
| 14:45 | <lykke> | :) |
| 14:45 | <kvandivo> | i think he's wondering if he can use myth without the tuner card if he isn't planning to save to the hard disk |
| 14:45 | <pahli_bar> | aha. i think kvandivo got it |
| 14:46 | <lykke> | kvandivo: no wait a sec please.... wil try again |
| 14:46 | <sfr> | other suggestions? *g* |
| 14:46 | <kvandivo> | maybe he's wondering what the current price of tea in china is. |
| 14:46 | * | kvandivo giggles. |
| 14:46 | <thor_> | what the F*&$ does that have to do with anything ? |
| 14:47 | <sfr> | that reminds of reading source code. i can see it's c/c++ but don't have any idea about what it's doing. |
| 14:47 | <kvandivo> | anyway... |
| 14:47 | <kvandivo> | a) tuner cards are required for mythtv.. |
| 14:48 | <kvandivo> | b) don't think of it as 'copying onto the hard drive'. think of it as 'storing a show so you can watch it later' |
| 14:48 | <lykke> | ok will start over 1 quistion... can mythtv switch between TV-channels on my TV at AV2-s (My superVideo input on TV)? |
| 14:48 | <sfr> | lykke: if you have a tuner card installed in your mythtv box, then yes. that's how i use mythtv in my living room. |
| 14:49 | <pahli_bar> | lykke: in mythtv tv-channels are not switched on the tv. but on the tuner card. |
| 14:49 | <sfr> | lykke: and if your mythtv computer supports tv-out to S-Video |
| 14:49 | <thor_> | what's an AV2 ? |
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| 14:49 | <lykke> | ok 2 quistion... will i loose picture quality ? compared to using the normal TV-channel's |
| 14:49 | <sfr> | thor_: where you connect e.g. a VCR |
| 14:50 | <kvandivo> | coax -> tuner on computer -> mythtv magic -> video card output (possibly svideo) -> TV |
| 14:50 | <pahli_bar> | i guess he means second AV (audio-visual) |
| 14:50 | <thor_> | ah |
| 14:50 | <sfr> | thor_: or a camcorder |
| 14:50 | <Racer> | pahli: |
| 14:50 | <Racer> | it is racer32 |
| 14:50 | <Racer> | 800x600 |
| 14:50 | <Racer> | 75x75 dpi |
| 14:50 | <thor_> | Racer, you want 100x100 |
| 14:51 | <Racer> | how to change? |
| 14:51 | <pahli_bar> | Racer: 100 dpi is standard for mythtv (that how the plugin themes are written for) |
| 14:51 | <thor_> | startx -- -dpi 100 |
| 14:51 | <thor_> | or fiddle with your DisplaySize in Section "Monitor" in X config |
| 14:51 | <Chutt> | i should add some code to compensate for that |
| 14:51 | <Chutt> | there's a qt function to get the dpi |
| 14:52 | <thor_> | just put up a warning, no? |
| 14:52 | <Racer> | startx, have to look where that thing is |
| 14:52 | <sfr> | lykke: that's not easy to answer. depends on your hardware configuration. e.g. with a very powerfull cpu and software and software encoding you probably can keep the full PAL resolution giving you a very similar quality as your TV. but on a slow computer you have to reduce the resolution resulting in a not-so-good quality |
| 14:52 | <Racer> | brb |
| 14:52 | <Chutt> | naw, i could modify the size and stuff |
| 14:53 | <pahli_bar> | on some channels, i get better quality than regular tv |
| 14:53 | <thor_> | yup ... I guess ... seems like work though :-( |
| 14:53 | <Chutt> | there's really not that many places that load their own fonts these days |
| 14:53 | <Chutt> | i cut most of em out =) |
| 14:53 | <lykke> | sfr: ok you use this tuner-card for TV-watching all the time right? |
| 14:54 | <thor_> | ah |
| 14:54 | <lykke> | :) encoder-card |
| 14:54 | <sfr> | lykke: i use a hauppage pvr350 card, which does mpeg-2 encoding in hardware, so it uses a _lot_ less cpu power. and most of the time i use a remote frontend (my laptop) |
| 14:55 | <lykke> | sfr: cool... you really got into this! |
| 14:55 | <sfr> | like most other people who started with mythtv :) |
| 14:56 | <sfr> | lykke: but mythtv will not improve the TV programm quality :( |
| 14:57 | <kvandivo> | not directly, anyway |
| 14:57 | <kvandivo> | PVRs, in general, make it easier to watch good shows and ignore bad shows |
| 15:00 | <lykke> | sfr: Right now, i got as far as this... Mythtv running with a lot of pictures, from my digi-cam, and some video's too, I'am using lirc with my Realmagic remote, to control it. Weather-plugin is set to local- works fine. But i would like to use the TV-program guide xmltv, without a tuner (haven't got one yet), I got some of it working, but mythtv seem's to be unstable when using it withou a tuner/encoder-card... |
| 15:04 | <sfr> | lykke: surprise, surprise. i really never used myth without a tuner card. i think except the watching-tv function it should work _if_ you get to start mythbackend without any configured tuner card. Chutt might be able to answer that more accuratelly |
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| 15:06 | <lykke> | sfr: jesper@lykke jesper $ Starting up as the master server. |
| 15:06 | <lykke> | ERROR: no capture cards are defined in the database. |
| 15:06 | <lykke> | 2004-01-07 21:05:57 Enabled verbose msgs : important general |
| 15:07 | <lykke> | sfr: you see... but it crashes often when trying to acces the program guide! |
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| 15:09 | <sfr> | i don't think it's related to the missing tuner card but as i said, i never used myth without one. |
| 15:10 | <lykke> | OK, thanx for the great answer's |
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| 15:10 | <sfr> | np |
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| 15:14 | <dja> | question on the dpi issue -- so if I change my DisplaySize (in XF86Config) so that it "lies", i.e., I am running in 800x600 and to get 100x100dpi I have to claim my monitor is ~8x6 -- how does that affect myth? |
| 15:14 | <Peit|Home> | I appear to have managed to somehow generate a 16Gig mpeg4 file from a 4gig mpeg2, anyone else think that's strange? |
| 15:15 | <kvandivo> | all depends on the creativity of the author when making choices.. |
| 15:15 | <sfr> | sounds perfectly fine to me 4gig x mpeg_4_ -> 16 :) |
| 15:15 | <thor_> | dja, it will make your fonts purty |
| 15:16 | <dja> | ok, I'll do it. :-) |
| 15:16 | <Henk_Poley> | Peit|Home: all I frames? |
| 15:20 | <Peit|Home> | Henk_Poley: hmm, dunno actually, is there a linux tool that can tell me? mplayer really doesn't like the file (it doesn't like any of the .nuv files bar the mpeg2 ones) |
| 15:21 | <Henk_Poley> | I really don't know |
| 15:21 | <dja> | thor: did you get my patch for dvdprobe.cpp (changes a setSize from '040' to '704')? |
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| 15:22 | <thor_> | dja, I don't think so .... |
| 15:23 | <dja> | ok -- I'll resend it...btw, do you have any database entries for transcoding 704x480 videos? |
| 15:24 | <thor_> | no, don't thinks os |
| 15:24 | <thor_> | so |
| 15:24 | <thor_> | 704? |
| 15:24 | <thor_> | PAL'ish ? |
| 15:24 | <dja> | shucks, was hoping someone else had already figured it out...yup, I have several videos that are 704x480...nope, ntsc...this is what mtd is reporting back...odd thing is that tscan reports 720x480 and ifo_dump shows that as both 704x480 and 720x480...one is Spaceballs and another is The English Patient... |
| 15:25 | <dja> | I've bounced the original message I sent you that asked about this and included my patch...:-) |
| 15:25 | <thor_> | I would guess a problem with libdvdread |
| 15:25 | <thor_> | but who knows |
| 15:26 | <dja> | btw, you can ignore my question about adding "--avi_limit 999999" to the transcode command line -- the next version of transcode is going to default to unlimited size. :-) |
| 15:28 | <thor_> | ah |
| 15:28 | <thor_> | cool |
| 15:31 | <lykke> | One last quistion today... what must the resolution at the card be at my 28inch PAL 16:9 TV |
| 15:32 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: i found a bug! flying around my crt. |
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| 15:38 | <bainster> | elo |
| 15:38 | <thor_> | electric light orchestra ? |
| 15:38 | <bainster> | anybody from za here ? |
| 15:38 | <bainster> | that can help setting up mythtv for za ? |
| 15:38 | <sfr> | Zaire? |
| 15:39 | <bainster> | South Africa ;P |
| 15:39 | <bainster> | confusing .. I know ;P |
| 15:39 | <sfr> | hehe |
| 15:39 | <kvandivo> | they only have tv in black and white there, right? |
| 15:39 | <Henk_Poley> | Zuid Afrika? Nee dat is een eindje weg van hier |
| 15:39 | <Henk_Poley> | kvandivo: don't be hars, South Afrika is not like that |
| 15:40 | <sfr> | is that Africaans? |
| 15:40 | <kvandivo> | hars? |
| 15:40 | <bainster> | hehe .. ZA is actually for Zuid Africa ;P |
| 15:41 | <bainster> | kvandivo: yeah .. and lions in the streets ... and we use elephants for showers ;P |
| 15:41 | * | kvandivo throws back his head and cackles with insane glee. |
| 15:41 | <Henk_Poley> | kvandivo: sorry harsh |
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| 15:41 | <kvandivo> | i think it would rock to have an elephant shower |
| 15:41 | <kvandivo> | lions in the street i could do without.. |
| 15:42 | <Henk_Poley> | Those animals never stand still long enough to do your hair... |
| 15:42 | <Henk_Poley> | ;-) |
| 15:42 | <bainster> | kvandivo: it's not all thatf un .. and elephants here are not that friendly ... you;d be amazed how many toerists gets killed because they get out of cars to pet african animals .. |
| 15:43 | <kvandivo> | i don't doubt it... just driving through yellowstone, in the US, and watching the stupid tourists makes it hard for me to be amazed at stuff like that |
| 15:43 | <bainster> | anyway .. back to myth ;P |
| 15:44 | <Henk_Poley> | What's your problem? |
| 15:44 | <bainster> | we have two tv systems here .. one satelite and one state owned broadcast .. |
| 15:44 | <bainster> | first off .. how do I get the channel frequancies for the bcast .... I have tvtime working fine .. |
| 15:45 | <Henk_Poley> | you can 'somehow' import them if you set them up correctly in xawtv |
| 15:45 | <Henk_Poley> | the database generation script has a help option it will tell you more |
| 15:45 | <Henk_Poley> | I was told.. :-P |
| 15:45 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: i don't like moving around in a zoomed picture with 2,4,6 and 8. it's not comfortable on a keyboard. |
| 15:45 | <bainster> | keproblem is .. I cant get it working in xawtv ;P |
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| 15:47 | <Henk_Poley> | hmmm |
| 15:48 | <Henk_Poley> | Then... you could handimport them, I guess, but maybe someone can whip up an importscript for tvtime |
| 15:48 | <bainster> | tvtime does a nice xml format .. can somebody not make a nice converter for myttv :) |
| 15:49 | <sfr> | bainster: it might work to just write a xawtvrc file by hand. the format is really simple |
| 15:49 | <bainster> | http://www.pastebin.com/33072 <-- my sample .. |
| 15:49 | <bainster> | sfr: I'll look into that .. |
| 15:49 | <Henk_Poley> | Does xawtv give any special error, or what is going wrong? |
| 15:50 | <Matt> | I wish mythtv wouldn't do that |
| 15:50 | <bainster> | Henk_Poley: right now ... I use the uk video source ... since there is no za one ;P |
| 15:50 | * | Matt kills mythbackend and restart it |
| 15:50 | <bainster> | Henk_Poley: so .. nothing really happens .. |
| 15:50 | <bainster> | how can I add a tv_grab_za script ? |
| 15:50 | <Henk_Poley> | "uk video source"? |
| 15:50 | <Matt> | one of these days I'll actually sit down and work out what's happening |
| 15:50 | <Henk_Poley> | aha that's XMLTV, not xawtv |
| 15:51 | <bainster> | ummmm ok |
| 15:51 | <Henk_Poley> | xawtv is much like tvtime |
| 15:51 | <bainster> | I can get a xml source from http://download.flash.za.org/schedule/zaxmltv.php for our stations ... |
| 15:51 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: mythgallery looks nice athough i don't quite remember how it looked before. :) |
| 15:52 | <Octane> | anyone have any idea why my box beeps whenever I use my grey remote in mythfrontend? |
| 15:52 | <Octane> | it just started |
| 15:52 | <bainster> | but its the satelite source .. but does include the bcast stations as well |
| 15:56 | <pahli_bar> | sfr: about scrolling. its meant to work that way with your remote. or numkeypad (look at the way keys are organized. it will be intuitive) |
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| 15:56 | <pahli_bar> | pahli_bar: you can check out the old look at the screenshots on mythtv.org |
| 15:56 | <pahli_bar> | doh. talking to myself |
| 15:56 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: hrm, i almost never use the numkeypad. sorry. *feels_dumb* |
| 15:57 | <sfr> | ^^ me that is |
| 15:57 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: at least you don't ask yourself stupid questions :) |
| 15:59 | <sfr> | anyone knows what's the name/group who had a song back in the '80s it contained the words '... and you may ask yourself...' Was it Talk Talk, Talking Heads...? |
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| 16:01 | <thor_> | Talking Heads, Once in a Lifetime |
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| 16:02 | <sfr> | cool |
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| 16:24 | <roodee> | my cpu utilization on mythbackend has steadily climbed from 2% to 70% in the past 90 minutes any ideas on how I can debug this? |
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| 16:30 | <roodee> | weird, so when I stop watching a recording the mythbackend cpu util jumps to 98% and stays there |
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| 16:36 | <Peit|Home> | roodee: have you got it set to transcode when you finish recording? |
| 16:36 | <Octane> | what capture settings do people use in here |
| 16:36 | <roodee> | nope |
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| 17:10 | <roodee> | so it looks like about two hours of recording before the system dies.. |
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| 17:18 | <pmowry> | Hi anyone using recent CVS version of ivtv and myth? I'm havinf trouble exiting from live tv. |
| 17:19 | <sfr> | works fine here, but you really need to want to quit watching tv. |
| 17:20 | <pmowry> | I'm making latest versions of each now; just to test the changes since yesterday morning PST. |
| 17:21 | <sfr> | myth is cvs as of ~1 hour ago. my ivtv drivers are cvs from a couple days ago. |
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| 17:57 | <Netslayer> | anyone know if the zoran based mjpeg cards tv out works? |
| 18:00 | <etcp> | I have one, but I've never tried it with mythtv |
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| 18:03 | <pmowry> | pahli_bar: Hi, your latest CVS changes will not compilefor me, what is needed for the TIFF support (qtiffio.cpp:22:20: tiffio.h: No such file or directory)? |
| 18:03 | <sfr> | pmowry: install libtiff3g. i had the same problem |
| 18:03 | <sfr> | err the -dev package if you use debian |
| 18:04 | <Netslayer> | ya i have one also in my hand heh, have a whole bunch of capture cards |
| 18:04 | <pmowry> | thanks, I'll look for an RPM (redhat 9, but I'm thinking about trying a new distro) |
| 18:05 | <Netslayer> | also curious how it works in mythtv, wonder if the zoran can only capture in mjpeg, or can myth convert it on the fly to mpeg4 |
| 18:06 | <etcp> | the zoran can only capture to mjpeg - you'll need a fairly beefy machine to transcode to mpeg4 on the fly! |
| 18:09 | <Netslayer> | i can live with mjpeg, it's just this machine is on 54g |
| 18:09 | <Netslayer> | streaming accross the network when recording with mjpeg scares me |
| 18:09 | <Netslayer> | i have a wonder ve in it now, but at 720x480 it's a tad choppy for my 1.33 tbird |
| 18:09 | <etcp> | heh - yeah, mjpeg is quite huge! |
| 18:09 | <Netslayer> | think i'll try o/c it |
| 18:10 | <etcp> | good luck! |
| 18:10 | <Netslayer> | what's that stream option in the setup all about? like a slave backend will record localy then stream it to the master when it's done? |
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| 18:10 | <etcp> | beyond me, I'm afraid |
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| 18:13 | <Snappi> | anyone succeded in getting the new PCTV Rave chipset to work? |
| 18:14 | <Snappi> | btw wich language is mythtv written in? |
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| 18:14 | <josephk> | b-sharp *rimshot* |
| 18:15 | <pmowry> | |
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| 18:16 | <pmowry> | BrB, my term emulation is not correct and BitchX is to hard to read... |
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| 18:17 | * | Octane is thinking of starting a mythtv blog |
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| 18:18 | <pmowry> | blah, that's worse |
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| 18:28 | <Netslayer> | so nobody knows how that stream feature works in the setup :-/ heh |
| 18:32 | <chiphead> | is there a way to send a backtrace to a file from within gdb? |
| 18:39 | <Octane> | why would one use native alsa support in mythtv? |
| 18:39 | <pahli_bar> | Octane: hmm. why not |
| 18:40 | <Octane> | i just recompile dmyth and enable dit |
| 18:40 | <Octane> | hoping to get rid of sound stutters when changing channels |
| 18:40 | <Octane> | just wondering though |
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| 19:29 | <sfr> | Chutt: might want to give a look at http://www.k-otik.com/exploits/12.21.r57phpnuke.pl.php not sure if it applies to www.mythtv.org |
| 19:30 | <sfr> | i wouldn't dare to test it ;) |
| 19:34 | <sfr> | apt-get install drupal anyone? not that i know drupal. |
| 19:36 | <mdz> | they pretty much all suck |
| 19:37 | <sfr> | everything php? |
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| 19:49 | <Chutt> | sfr, thanks, that's an old one though |
| 19:49 | <sfr> | good |
| 19:50 | <pahli_bar> | anyone know of programs with good image slideshows. i have stolen all the slideshows from digikam (which in turn took it from kde) |
| 19:54 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 19:55 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: what about number girls? |
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| 19:59 | <pahli_bar> | sfr: ?? |
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| 20:03 | <chiphead> | should all the keys taht work while watching a recording work when using the standalone player mythtv? |
| 20:03 | <pahli_bar> | you would think fadein/out would be easy... |
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| 20:07 | <chiphead> | pahli_bar, I wouldnt think its that tough... just itterate ofer some function that changes pixels to the new pic in some nice pattern |
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| 20:11 | <chiphead> | or take the 2 pixels, the old and new, calculate the difference, devide by the number of steps you want the transform to take and loop through appling the difference each time till the target pixel is hit |
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| 20:13 | <pahli_bar> | chiphead: hmm.. i was talking about fade to black and back or blending of images |
| 20:13 | <pahli_bar> | chiphead: you can't get pixels from qpixmaps or x11 pixmaps |
| 20:13 | <chiphead> | just substitute black pixel as the target or starting point |
