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| 02:26 | <tmk> | anybody else get a msg from "marc_" that just says 'got mail?' |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 02:28 | <tmk> | nevermind :) |
| 02:29 | <Chutt> | are you on my dev list? |
| 02:31 | <tmk> | technically |
| 02:31 | <tmk> | but i have delivery disabled |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2004-January/017581.html |
| 02:32 | <tmk> | great |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | yup |
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| 02:36 | <tmk> | does that mean you're holding off on ivtv-cvs? |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | figured :) |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | it's a pain in the ass to update on the epia-m |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | as it requires a reboot |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | i have it all automatic |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | i just make install |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | and type reboot |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | come back in 3 mins or so |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | well, i've never set things up to auto start =) |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | since i'm too lazy |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | :) |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | yeah that was actually a real pain |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | i had to use fvwm's auto-start stuff |
| 02:38 | <tmk> | as none of the way it's documented to auto-start actually work |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | so if i do that, my wife'll wonder why it's just a black screen with a white cursor |
| 02:38 | <tmk> | heh "what's that X?" |
| 02:39 | <Chutt> | naw, it doesn't even start X right now =) |
| 02:39 | <tmk> | oh that. heh. Does fiddling with the alpha fix that? |
| 02:39 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 02:39 | <tmk> | hm |
| 02:39 | <Chutt> | at least, i don't think it does |
| 02:39 | <mechou> | Chutt, are u saying you are only using fb? |
| 02:39 | <Chutt> | mechou, no, i didn't say anything of the sort |
| 02:39 | <tmk> | well someone asked if they could code some stuff for ivtv.. i told them to fix the colormap |
| 02:39 | <tmk> | let's see if they do |
| 02:40 | <Chutt> | tmk, the cursor shows up, so i doubt it's the alpha =) |
| 02:40 | <tmk> | yea |
| 02:41 | <tmk> | chutt: so you're opposed to switching to streaming for mythtv? |
| 02:41 | <Chutt> | i'm happy with what's working now |
| 02:41 | <Chutt> | but i wouldn't reject a patch |
| 02:41 | <tmk> | i see |
| 02:42 | <tmk> | i'm trying to figure how to do yuv-out |
| 02:42 | <tmk> | i think it's probably too much data for write() |
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| 03:04 | <tmk> | bedtime |
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| 03:13 | <Netslayer> | where is that mythannouce program? i don't see it under /programs |
| 03:21 | <Netslayer> | gosh where is it heh..caller id stuff mythannounce or something |
| 03:24 | <Netslayer> | mythnotify |
| 03:25 | <Netslayer> | auh it's under contrib |
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| 10:44 | <rkulagow> | morning. chutt, docs update please. |
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| 11:27 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt(2): i hear you. no imlib. |
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| 11:32 | <Chutt2> | sorry, but =0 |
| 11:32 | <Chutt2> | err, =) |
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| 11:32 | <rkulagow> | chutt: docs sync please. |
| 11:33 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 11:33 | <pahli_bar> | not a big problem. i myself was a bit wary. sometime in the future, i myself would like to try out directfb and then imlib will cause problems |
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| 11:34 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, done =) |
| 11:34 | <rkulagow> | thanks. |
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| 11:48 | <pahli_bar> | hmm... does anyone really use the zoom features in mythgallery? |
| 11:49 | <Chutt> | the guy that added it, possibly |
| 11:50 | <Chutt> | i don't =) |
| 11:50 | <pahli_bar> | i would leave it in. |
| 11:52 | <kvandivo> | having never even used mythgallery i can safely chime in that i don't use zoom |
| 11:53 | <steelep> | pahli, I use them all the time |
| 11:54 | <steelep> | rotate alot too |
| 11:55 | <steelep> | I look forward to the autodetect and add for external media, the canon utilities are crap |
| 11:55 | <steelep> | a slideshow with a linked playlist from mythmusic is going to be cool too :) |
| 11:58 | <steelep> | anyone know why Xine would slow the hell out of mythfrontend after play a couple movies? |
| 11:58 | <steelep> | I have to ctrl-alt-bksp to get it to respond snappy again |
| 12:04 | <Chutt> | nothing weird in the process table? |
| 12:05 | <pahli_bar> | maybe its causing heavy swapping |
| 12:05 | <steelep> | swapping shouldn't be a problem, this machine has 1G ram |
| 12:06 | <pahli_bar> | heh |
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| 12:06 | <steelep> | I don't see any processes still loaded that shouldn't be |
| 12:06 | <steelep> | I thought it wasn't closing Xine properly, but it seems to be |
| 12:07 | <pahli_bar> | hd dma enabled? |
| 12:07 | <steelep> | of course |
| 12:08 | <steelep> | it probably the ATI drivers, they really suck |
| 12:08 | <steelep> | I need to just go get an nVidia |
| 12:08 | <steelep> | this ati is ancient... an AIW 7000 |
| 12:08 | <pahli_bar> | steelep: bdale garbee was here the other day. and he mentioned good experiences with SIS 315. lot cheaper than a nvidia |
| 12:09 | <steelep> | I have an SIS onboard |
| 12:09 | <steelep> | it wasn't all that good |
| 12:09 | <steelep> | and won't do the resolutions I want correctly |
| 12:09 | <steelep> | I could get it to even go into 1280x720 at all |
| 12:10 | <steelep> | nor 1920x1080 |
| 12:12 | <pahli_bar> | not a 4:3 monitor i assume |
| 12:12 | <steelep> | nope, hd |
| 12:13 | <steelep> | using a transcoder from vga-> component |
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| 12:15 | <bbeattie> | anyone have an url to a doc explaining how to setup postfix so all e-mail sent to a non-valid user at a domain goes to a specific user? |
| 12:16 | <sfr> | bbeattie: set luser_relay and the doc is in main.cf |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | wonder where o_cee's been |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | he had said something about an update to gant, then disappeared for 2 weeks |
| 12:32 | <kvandivo> | he's in hiding |
| 12:45 | <warlord> | still recovering from that new-year's hangover? |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:45 | <warlord> | well, he IS from "that part of the world"... Sweden, IIRC.. |
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| 13:00 | <racer32> | Pahli: i use the zoom too! |
| 13:00 | <pahli_bar> | ok. i wasn't planning to take it out. |
| 13:03 | <bdale> | pahli_bar: the sis 315 agp card I have is fine for svideo output, but I suspect I'm going to end up with an nvidia card to generate 720p ... |
| 13:03 | * | bdale would prefer something with an open source driver, but something that works is priority one |
| 13:04 | <pahli_bar> | i have had generally good experiences with nvidia (all my machines have one). but the underscan issue is a bit bothering |
| 13:09 | <pahli_bar> | heh. the nigerian spammers have become yugoslavian |
| 13:10 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 13:10 | <Chutt> | unofficial unofficial kde debs |
| 13:11 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: nigerian spam? Noo, i got 40,000,000 USD transferred to my swiss bank account recently. All i invested were ~1500 EUR. Believe me, it's not spam! |
| 13:11 | <pahli_bar> | sfr: maybe i need to fwd this yugoslavian "ham" to you :) |
| 13:11 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, someone said you had said you were thinking of redoing the mythmusic selection screen with your new list type? |
| 13:12 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: thanks for your kind offer, but i've already enough money. |
| 13:12 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: yeah. i find listviews a bit clumsy to use with a remote. |
| 13:13 | <pahli_bar> | sfr: heh |
| 13:13 | <Chutt> | i think that'd work out well |
| 13:13 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: all in efforts towards total WAF |
| 13:13 | <Chutt> | could even finally do a tri-state checkbox =) |
| 13:14 | <pahli_bar> | tri? |
| 13:14 | <kvandivo> | 3 |
| 13:14 | <kvandivo> | :-P |
| 13:14 | <sfr> | hm, yes no maybe? |
| 13:14 | <pahli_bar> | lol |
| 13:14 | <Chutt> | say, for an album that has some, but not all tracks selected |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | makes it easier to see what's selected |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | qt didn't add a tri-state checkbox to the listview until 3.2, iirc |
| 13:15 | <pahli_bar> | ah.... like good ole ms-windows (i remember the MSOffice installation) |
| 13:16 | <sfr> | or like the Solaris installation |
| 13:25 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: whats wrong? i kindly asked you NOT to fwd this mail to me. ;) |
| 13:26 | <pahli_bar> | sfr: forgot to have your coffee in the morning, eh! :) |
| 13:27 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: maybe too much coffee |
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| 13:29 | <pahli_bar> | i love this program: tora. forgot who recommended it (someone on this channel) |
| 13:32 | <Rroet> | hi hoooo ;) |
| 13:32 | <Rroet> | how's everyone today? |
| 13:40 | <kvandivo> | tora the oracle thing, or something else? |
| 13:42 | <pahli_bar> | kvandivo: yup. does mysql too |
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| 13:58 | <bdale> | I'm seeing the vertical banding problem with my pvr-250, which is reputed to be a firmware issue "solveable" by using cron to wiggle the input once a day or so... anyone have a suitable script handy, or do I go get to remember how test_ioctl works? |
| 13:59 | <Chutt> | ./test_ioctl -p 0 ; ./test_ioctl -p 4 |
| 13:59 | <Chutt> | assuming input 4's your tuner input and that's what you're using |
| 14:00 | <dja> | bdale: <A HREF="http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~alden/reset_pvr">http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~alden/reset_pvr<;/A> |
| 14:00 | <dja> | the script figures out what it was set to, changes it to another type and changes it back :-) |
| 14:00 | <bdale> | dja: cool, thanks! |
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| 14:05 | <Octane> | its amazing what using catver.ini does |
| 14:06 | <pahli_bar> | hmmm. if you are scrolling with arrow keys how would you expect the screen to behave: say press left. screen should go left or should it go right |
| 14:07 | <pahli_bar> | i would say press left, screen should slide to right |
| 14:08 | <Chutt> | for an image viewer? |
| 14:08 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: yes (should have been more specific!) |
| 14:08 | <Octane> | left is left, right is right |
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| 14:09 | <pahli_bar> | Octane: open a long page in mozilla. scroll with arrow keys and see how it behaves |
| 14:09 | <Octane> | i use firebird |
| 14:09 | <pahli_bar> | screen slides opposite to arrow key |
| 14:09 | <pahli_bar> | Octane: same |
| 14:09 | <Octane> | not in mine |
| 14:09 | <Octane> | at least not that i recall |
| 14:09 | <Octane> | let me see |
| 14:09 | <Octane> | is that just on an image? |
| 14:09 | <Octane> | because thats opposite to a normal page |
| 14:09 | <pahli_bar> | Octane: no anything |
| 14:10 | <steelep> | hit left, you get more view of what is offscreen to the left, so pahli is correct it scrolls right |
| 14:10 | <sfr> | i'd say pressing left should scroll a picture to the right, showing the left part of an image |
| 14:10 | <pahli_bar> | steelep: current mythgallery has it right for left/right but wrong for up/down |
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| 14:11 | <steelep> | yes, I noticed that |
| 14:11 | <kvandivo> | i'd say just get rid of zoom. at least two of us don't use it, and that would solve the problem |
| 14:11 | <steelep> | it's would also be nice to understand how zoom to hieght works |
| 14:12 | <steelep> | I can never get it to do that correctly |
| 14:12 | <pahli_bar> | here's what i plan to do. 1x zoom = fit in page. 2x zoom = 2*(1x) and similarly. |
| 14:12 | <pahli_bar> | no screenwidhth/screenheight zoom. confusing to say the least |
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| 14:15 | <steelep> | I zoom to width frequently |
| 14:16 | <steelep> | what I want to do is, rotate, zoom to width |
| 14:16 | <steelep> | then arrow up and down, but not by whole pages |
| 14:17 | <steelep> | some type of smooth scroll would be good |
| 14:17 | <steelep> | like ctrl-arrow or something to scroll by pixel |
| 14:18 | <pahli_bar> | steelep: only way to get to a screenwidth zoom is to go 2x zoom and then zoom down. |
| 14:18 | <pahli_bar> | steelep: i find that very unintuitive |
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| 14:19 | <sfr> | i hope not! |
| 14:19 | <pahli_bar> | heh. |
| 14:19 | <pahli_bar> | there goes the project |
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| 14:20 | <pahli_bar> | phew... |
| 14:21 | <sfr> | :) |
| 14:22 | <pahli_bar> | how about this: zoomin/out go in increments from 0.5-1-2-4 and i use separate keys for screenwidth/screenheight fit |
| 14:23 | <Octane> | anyone here use a gravis gamepad with mame? |
| 14:23 | <Octane> | just weant to know if i should go ahead and bid on it |
| 14:23 | <Octane> | on i know linux supports it |
| 14:23 | <pahli_bar> | 7-9 = zoomout/in. 2-6-8-4 = scroll. 0 = restore. 1-3 = screenwidth/screenheight fit. |
| 14:27 | <pahli_bar> | scroll by small increments should not be difficult |
| 14:27 | <pahli_bar> | looks better too |
| 14:28 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, so when you going to check stuff into cvs? |
| 14:29 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: before this weekend |
| 14:29 | * | kvandivo proceeds to make a patch of the rank stuff and copy it onto a second frontend for testing. |
| 14:30 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 14:31 | <steelep> | sounds good to me pahli |
| 14:32 | <steelep> | except, what is rotate? |
| 14:32 | <thor_> | have to be 5 |
| 14:33 | <steelep> | it might be more intuitive for 5 to be restore (center) and 0 (round) to be rotate |
| 14:34 | <steelep> | but R and L are unused too |
| 14:34 | <steelep> | you'd have to map them to a remote though |
| 14:34 | * | thor_ checks his remote for an R key .. |
| 14:35 | <steelep> | if I ever get a remote to actually work I might care :-) |
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| 14:48 | <pahli_bar> | steelep: [ ] rotate |
| 14:49 | <pahli_bar> | steelep: default keybindings. [,1 rotate left. ],3 rotate right |
| 14:52 | <pahli_bar> | also as seen from this sshot: https://pooh.tam.uiuc.edu/screen.png you have the option to rotate from the thumbnail view itself |
| 14:56 | <kvandivo> | if i didn't know better i'd think you were related to o_cee, pahli_bar. you two are the only people i know that deeply care about using https for a pic you put on a website |
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| 14:57 | <pahli_bar> | root: not a good idea to be root and be on irc |
| 14:57 | <pahli_bar> | kvandivo: heh. i don't run apache regular only apache-ssl |
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| 14:59 | <thor_> | pahli_bar, looks sweet |
| 14:59 | <kvandivo> | i agree. i don't know what old version looked like, so i hadn't said anything |
| 15:00 | <Chutt> | screenshot on the website |
| 15:01 | <kvandivo> | ahh.. ya.. that's quite a delta |
| 15:01 | <pahli_bar> | heh. thanks. my icon-making abilities suck. wish there was an "official" graphics designer for myth |
| 15:02 | <kvandivo> | i've always been curious.. what show is http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/pip2.jpg from? |
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| 15:03 | <thor_> | looks like an ad to me |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | some ad, west wing in the corner, i believe |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | really ancient screenshot |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | i should take a better looking one |
| 15:04 | <kvandivo> | you against the idea of having screenshots in the docs? (i can see why we wouldn't want it) |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 15:05 | <kvandivo> | i was thinking of adding a 'this screen means this' page that explains a bunch of this crap that people repeatedly ask |
| 15:05 | <kvandivo> | (in my free time, of course0 |
| 15:05 | <kvandivo> | something for the 'using myth' section... |
| 15:05 | <kvandivo> | that explains options and what they mean, etc etc.. |
| 15:08 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 15:12 | <kvandivo> | the problem, of course, with having screenshots in the docs is that it makes 'keeping current' one level harder than just having to tweak some text.. |
| 15:14 | <kvandivo> | i also had a random thought (not for very long, mind you) of making an 'interactive webpage' that had the myth screens with imagemaps where you could click through the interface and get the new screen with accompanying explanatory text |
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| 15:22 | <lykke> | Good afternoon !... I have a problem with my RealMagic remote - LIRC lose contact with the mythfrontend after playing video. I have tried the mplayer -nolirc option, but doesn't make any changes. BTW... lirc work's fine except this ! |
| 15:22 | <thor_> | change your wm's focus policy |
| 15:23 | <lykke> | you think soo? why and how :) |
| 15:24 | <lykke> | maybe this is a common problem ? - can't find anything about it on google... |
| 15:25 | <thor_> | search here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Users_F11/ |
| 15:25 | <thor_> | Your search for focus returned 962 results |
| 15:26 | <thor_> | :-) |
| 15:26 | <lykke> | hehe |
| 15:26 | <lykke> | I was actually thinking about this... but it seems a little weird! |
| 15:28 | <lykke> | ok thanx! |
| 15:28 | <thor_> | yup |
| 15:28 | <lykke> | It's a common problem for sure!... funny |
| 15:32 | <lykke> | OK thanx- it's actually working now :) |
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| 15:34 | <pahli_bar> | setting max zoom to 4. anymore causes swapping on my machine with 512MB ram |
| 15:34 | * | pahli_bar waits for the protest flags to raise |
| 15:35 | <sfr> | ram is cheap these days. i want zoom factor 10 :) |
| 15:35 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: are you serious? |
| 15:36 | * | pahli_bar cuts a vein on sfr to slowly drain out all the coffee |
| 15:36 | <sfr> | *g* |
| 15:37 | <sfr> | you've got to think about aunt tilly too. after compiling her kernel for lirc/bttv/whatnot she wants to _see_ the pics of her grandchilds. |
| 15:38 | * | pahli_bar throws up his arms in disgust and orders a full scale brain removal |
| 15:39 | <sfr> | Will i dream Dave? |
| 15:39 | <pahli_bar> | heh |
| 15:40 | <pahli_bar> | yes. and your dream will be full of stars |
| 15:40 | <sfr> | Thank you Dave. |
| 15:40 | * | sfr opens the air lock |
| 15:48 | * | bdale avoids the temptation to give just a *little* push... |
| 15:49 | <bdale> | gotta watch that first step |
| 15:49 | <thor_> | as humans we dream, and when we dream, we dream of money |
| 15:49 | <thor_> | (free copy of MythTV to someone who can name the film) |
| 15:50 | <kvandivo> | spanish prisoner |
| 15:50 | <thor_> | wow, two copies for speed |
| 15:50 | * | nchip thinks google is to be attributed |
| 15:51 | <kvandivo> | but yahoo doesn't even use google anymore. google is on its way out |
| 15:51 | <kvandivo> | the end is near. apocalypse now |
| 15:51 | <GreyFoxx> | I don't think I've used yahoo in like 4 years for searches. Except for Yahoo Maps :) |
| 15:52 | <sfr> | to each his own search engine. shakespeare |
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| 16:03 | <racer32> | Why don't the colors of the dropdown boxes change when you enter them |
| 16:03 | <racer32> | all boxes change color except these ones |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | because you're not using cvs |
| 16:03 | <racer32> | heh, i am sorry! |
| 16:04 | <racer32> | i mean i am using CVS! |
| 16:05 | <Chutt> | fixed it a couple weeks ago |
| 16:05 | <racer32> | my cvs is from yesterday |
| 16:06 | <racer32> | if i go for example to advanced rec. screen and go to the drop down |
| 16:06 | <Chutt> | time to start debugging, then |
| 16:06 | <racer32> | i only see a small dotted line |
| 16:06 | <racer32> | on TV hardly to see |
| 16:06 | <racer32> | are we talking about the same? |
| 16:07 | <racer32> | is it theme related? |
| 16:07 | <Chutt> | qt theme, most likely |
| 16:08 | <racer32> | yeah but not the txt file mentioned before on the list |
| 16:08 | <racer32> | i can change colors for all buttons but not the selected dropdown boxes |
| 16:09 | <racer32> | looks like the dotted line has the color for the selected button option in the qtlooks.txt (?) file |
| 16:09 | <racer32> | sorry don't have it here |
| 16:09 | <racer32> | am i talking bullshit? :) |
| 16:10 | <Chutt> | pretty much |
| 16:10 | <Chutt> | use a different qt theme. |
| 16:11 | <racer32> | okay shall not ask you how to do that! |
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| 16:11 | <racer32> | :) |
| 16:12 | <Rroet> | heads up, epia-sources-2.4.24 will hit the site in about 15 minutes ;) |
| 16:14 | <racer32> | damn |
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| 16:26 | <steelep> | geez, answer 5 of thos correctly... |
| 16:26 | <steelep> | http://www.script-o-rama.com/superhard.shtml |
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| 17:05 | <Netslayer> | noticed a couple mythnews commits, do any of them allow for zooming into an article from the headline so it's actually readable? |
| 17:10 | <pahli_bar> | Netslayer: what version are you using? |
| 17:11 | <Netslayer> | i was using cvs around .13 release, now i'm upgrading to latest cvs |
| 17:12 | <Netslayer> | i'm astonished at how many commits occurred in the last two weeks |
| 17:12 | <pahli_bar> | Netslayer: try it out and let me know if you feel the fonts are too small. |
| 17:12 | <Netslayer> | sure |
| 17:12 | <pahli_bar> | Netslayer: also mention your resolution/dpi |
| 17:12 | <Netslayer> | i believe my tv out is running at 1024x768 |
| 17:13 | <Netslayer> | my fonts are all defaults though, so i might have to change them |
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| 17:13 | <pahli_bar> | tvout can be different from x11 resolution. xdpyinfo should give current res |
| 17:13 | <pahli_bar> | that is if you are running it fullscreen |
| 17:14 | <thor_> | Chutt, sortTreeByString seems to be doing odd things occassionally ... that sound possible to you ? |
| 17:14 | <Netslayer> | pahli_bar, don't have that program, any idea where it comes from |
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| 17:16 | <pahli_bar> | part of standard X11R6 |
| 17:17 | <Netslayer> | there it is, wasn't in my path |
| 17:17 | <Netslayer> | uh i need X for this heh..give me a few min i'll post it here |
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| 17:45 | <Netslayer> | dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (347x260 millimeters) |
| 17:45 | <Netslayer> | resolution: 75x75 dots per inch |
| 17:45 | <Netslayer> | there's my xdpyinfo |
| 17:45 | <Netslayer> | just setting up myth, will try mythnews in a sec here |
| 17:45 | <thor_> | you definitely want to change your DPI to 100x100 |
| 17:46 | <Netslayer> | ya probably, where would i do that |
| 17:46 | <Netslayer> | is that just for text or would my general resolution be better? |
| 17:47 | <thor_> | there's a command line switch (that I can never remember), or you can fiddle with DisplaySize in Section "Monitor" in your X config |
| 17:47 | <Netslayer> | auh |
| 17:47 | <thor_> | Section "Monitor" |
| 17:47 | <thor_> | DisplaySize 325 260 # mm |
| 17:47 | <thor_> | Identifier "Monitor0" |
| 17:47 | <thor_> | VendorName "SGX" |
| 17:47 | <thor_> | ModelName "1000" |
| 17:47 | <thor_> | HorizSync 31.5 - 90.0 |
| 17:47 | <thor_> | VertRefresh 40.0 - 150.0 |
| 17:48 | <thor_> | Option "DPMS" |
| 17:48 | <thor_> | EndSection |
| 17:48 | <pahli_bar> | Netslayer: my kdm server starts it as :0 local@tty1 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -dpi 100 vt7 |
| 17:48 | <pahli_bar> | startx -- -dpi 100 also works |
| 17:49 | <pahli_bar> | Netslayer: all default fontsizes have been tested for 800x600 with 100 dpi resolution |
| 17:49 | <pahli_bar> | thats standard for any myth plugin |
| 17:49 | <Netslayer> | let me give that a try |
| 17:51 | <Netslayer> | thor in your XF86Config is that DisplaySize what i'm looking for? |
| 17:51 | <Netslayer> | auh nm heh |
| 17:52 | <thor_> | DPI is the recipricol of Display dimensions, size down, DPI up |
| 17:54 | <Netslayer> | that's confusing, cause if i'm running 1024x768 then doesn't that physicaly change if i change the DPI |
| 17:54 | <thor_> | nope |
| 17:55 | <thor_> | it's just for font size scaling |
| 17:55 | <Netslayer> | ok so increasing DPI has no effect on my actualy video playback? it's just fonts |
| 17:55 | <thor_> | yup |
| 17:56 | <thor_> | fonts are in points, X uses DPI to figure out how pixels they should take up for a given DPI |
| 17:56 | <thor_> | (at least as far as _I_ know) |
| 17:56 | <Netslayer> | u think going to 800x600 would produce a sharper video then 1024x768 since it's closer to the capture resolution? |
| 17:56 | <Netslayer> | ya that makes sense |
| 17:57 | <thor_> | beauty is in the eye of the beholder |
| 17:57 | <Netslayer> | heh |
| 17:59 | <pahli_bar> | hmmm... wondering if any other plugins will benefit from a tiff image loader |
| 17:59 | <Netslayer> | cool new mythnews, i like it, any chance of mapping a button to expand the article to fullscreen? |
| 18:00 | <Chutt> | netslayer, i don't think you understand that that it's already showing all the information available in the article |
| 18:00 | <pahli_bar> | Netslayer: articles supplied through rss usually have very little content |
| 18:00 | <Netslayer> | oh really, auh ya |
| 18:01 | <Netslayer> | this is odd both my machines lost one day after the new year..heh |
| 18:02 | <Netslayer> | just got back home at it said jan 5th, good thing i wasn't planning on depending on myth |
| 18:02 | <pahli_bar> | Netslayer: use ntpdate in a crontab. or run ntpd |
| 18:03 | <Netslayer> | yup, i already have that set up :-) just have to figure out why the crons aren't running |
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| 18:07 | <mythMichale2> | moanin' |
| 18:09 | <Netslayer> | hmm i forgot the file i setup to startx on boot |
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| 18:19 | <Netslayer> | sweet i can read my fonts again |
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| 19:29 | <robbie> | hmm, do a dvb card would be a good replacement for a pvr card |
| 19:29 | <robbie> | being the digital stream is mpeg |
| 19:29 | <robbie> | they are about 1/4 the price of pvr cards here in .au |
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| 19:31 | <robbie> | anyone know what the bitrate is for dvb? |
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| 19:34 | <pahli_bar> | might be good idea to start namespace wrapping plugins to avoid classname clashes |
| 19:36 | <pahli_bar> | heh. TiVo has filed a lawsuit against satellite TV provider EchoStar for infringing on its 'Time Warp' patent for DVR time-shifting. |
| 19:37 | <thor_> | (sigh) time to short TIVO |
| 19:41 | <extremis> | short tivo? |
| 19:41 | <thor_> | sell the stock short |
| 19:52 | <pahli_bar> | bbl |
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| 20:59 | <Chutt> | hmmm |
| 20:59 | <thor_> | ? |
| 20:59 | <thor_> | C&D from Tivo in you inbox ? |
| 20:59 | <Chutt> | trying to decide how to handle little in menu plugins |
| 20:59 | <Chutt> | dock apps, if you will |
| 21:00 | <Chutt> | want a clock |
| 21:00 | <thor_> | ah |
| 21:00 | <Chutt> | maybe a little weather applet |
| 21:00 | <Chutt> | maybe something to show status of the backend, et |
| 21:00 | <Chutt> | etc |
| 21:01 | <thor_> | OSD, or just over dialogs ? |
| 21:01 | <Chutt> | just over the main menu |
| 21:01 | <Chutt> | well, in any menu |
| 21:01 | <Chutt> | rip status, perhaps |
| 21:02 | <thor_> | theme designer sets "geometry" for how they should take up space if they exist (NW, down?) ? |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | i was thinking of being more strict than that |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | theme designer sets a number of possible positions, and they get filled in order |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | have a little thing in the frontend to configure what goes where |
| 21:03 | <thor_> | but are they "buttons" or just passive displays |
| 21:03 | <Chutt> | i was thinking passive display, with an entry in a popup menu if the user hits menu or info or whatnot |
| 21:04 | <thor_> | set of holes to hold pixmaps, then the miniapps get to decide what it's their pixmap and what to "launch" if they get an activation signal ? |
| 21:04 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 21:05 | <Chutt> | trying to decide how they get to know when to refresh |
| 21:05 | <Chutt> | ie, have them set a timer on their own, or tell the main app how often |
| 21:05 | <Chutt> | i think i'll have em tell the main app |
| 21:05 | <thor_> | clock often, weather less so |
| 21:05 | <Chutt> | exactly |
| 21:06 | <Chutt> | just a stupid little feature, really |
| 21:06 | <thor_> | heh |
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| 21:10 | <monkeyBox> | I've changed a buch of tags on my mp3's, and I can't get it to update in mythmusic. Do I have to change the file names in order for it to update? |
| 21:11 | <Chutt> | pretty much |
| 21:11 | <Chutt> | there isn't a 'scan and update' |
| 21:11 | <thor_> | you can point it at an empty directory, update, then point it back |
| 21:11 | <thor_> | (bit of a pain) |
| 21:12 | <Chutt> | loses your playlists |
| 21:12 | <monkeyBox> | hmm.. |
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| 21:12 | <thor_> | MD5 checksums for the mfd |
| 21:12 | <thor_> | :-) |
| 21:12 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 21:12 | <Chutt> | last modified timestamp on the file |
| 21:12 | <Chutt> | much quicker to get |
| 21:13 | <monkeyBox> | heh, good idea :) |
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| 21:13 | <thor_> | yes, but across the network (is _this_ blah.mp3 the same as _that_ blah.mp3) |
| 21:17 | <Chutt> | md5's take forever to calculate |
| 21:17 | <thor_> | yup |
| 21:19 | <thor_> | have bits and piece of an automirroring plugin |
| 21:19 | <thor_> | need a way to ask if two files are the same across the network |
| 21:20 | <thor_> | always open to suggestions |
| 21:20 | <thor_> | :-) |
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| 21:21 | <thor_> | btw, this on-the-fly ogg/flac decoding stuff is pretty much done |
| 21:22 | * | Octane makes love to chutt and thor |
| 21:22 | <Octane> | do you know how much i love mythtv |
| 21:22 | <Octane> | i wish i could help in more than just updating an nes database, lol |
| 21:22 | <Octane> | okay back to my recorded knick game |
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| 21:31 | <Octane> | i find myself rewinding some commercials... like bud light's mr way too much cologone wearer |
| 21:33 | <thor_> | heh |
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| 22:08 | <Jy> | anyone have any experience setting up a pvr-250? |
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| 22:33 | <Chutt> | thor, check file size, hash the first + last 128k of the file? |
| 22:33 | <thor_> | hmm |
| 22:33 | <thor_> | that sounds awfully clever |
| 22:33 | <thor_> | do we know where comments sit in flacs and oggs ? |
| 22:33 | <thor_> | beginning ? |
| 22:33 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 22:33 | <Chutt> | probably |
| 22:34 | <thor_> | but between size and 256k hash, that should be enough |
| 22:35 | <Chutt> | my oggs and flacs have the tags at the beginning |
| 22:35 | <thor_> | this is also very useful for persistent id's across database/playlist changes |
| 22:35 | <Chutt> | should work for most purposes |
| 22:36 | <thor_> | yup |
| 22:36 | <thor_> | it would be odd to put them anywhere other than the beginning, but I suspect ogg would technically let you put them anywhere |
| 22:36 | <thor_> | I'll check |
| 22:36 | <Chutt> | probably |
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| 22:40 | <thor_> | The Vorbis text comment header is the second (of three) header packets that begin a Vorbis bitstream. |
| 22:40 | <thor_> | http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html |
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| 22:43 | <Chutt> | flac should be similar |
| 22:43 | <Chutt> | id3v2 tags can technically be anywhere, but i've never seen them anywhere except at beginning or end |
| 22:43 | <thor_> | k |
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| 22:45 | <thor_> | A FLAC bitstream consists of the "fLaC" marker at the beginning of the stream, followed by a mandatory metadata block (called the STREAMINFO block), any number of other metadata blocks, then the audio frames. |
| 22:45 | <Chutt> | yeah, and flac is technically using ogg now as the container format |
| 22:46 | <thor_> | the vorbis comments could be passed 128k if there are a bunch of other metadata blocks (I guess) |
| 22:46 | <thor_> | past |
| 22:46 | <Chutt> | well |
| 22:46 | <Chutt> | i doubt that'd happen |
| 22:46 | <Chutt> | if it does, stuff can be changed |
| 22:46 | <thor_> | yup |
| 22:46 | <Chutt> | just 128k is relatively quick to read off disk |
| 22:46 | <thor_> | ok |
| 22:46 | <thor_> | (why is that?) |
| 22:47 | <Chutt> | it's not the whole file =) |
| 22:47 | <thor_> | ah |
| 22:47 | <thor_> | thought you were saying something insanely clever about PCI buses or something |
| 22:47 | <Chutt> | hah, naw |
| 22:47 | <Chutt> | where's tmk |
| 22:48 | <Chutt> | he didn't do all the ioctls that david wanted |
| 22:48 | <thor_> | saw that |
| 22:48 | <thor_> | are they trying to get rid of the firmware altogether ? |
| 22:48 | <Chutt> | he (and i) don't want any direct firmware calls in mythtv |
| 22:48 | <thor_> | ah |
| 22:49 | <thor_> | tainting ? |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | not good practices =) |
| 22:49 | <thor_> | k |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | that's what the driver's there for |
| 22:49 | <thor_> | yup |
| 22:49 | <thor_> | how are we on the idea of xine-lib ? |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | would _like_ to just use myth's internal player |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | but, if that works |
| 22:50 | <thor_> | yup (and yup) |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | and isn't a core requirement |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | i don't really have a problem with it |
| 22:51 | <Chutt> | oh, btw |
| 22:51 | <Chutt> | av from the -dev list is getting write access |
| 22:51 | <thor_> | cool |
| 22:51 | <Chutt> | soon as he emails me back a user name |
| 22:52 | <thor_> | is it just me, or have there been a lot more contributions in general in the last month or so ? |
| 22:52 | <Chutt> | that'll be 13 people with access =) |
| 22:52 | <Chutt> | 'course, moegreen and mdz don't do much anymore |
| 22:52 | <mdz> | :-P |
| 22:52 | <thor_> | still ... not bad numbers |
| 22:52 | <mdz> | I might if I actually had a mythtv box |
| 22:52 | <Chutt> | yeah, i'm happy |
| 22:52 | <Chutt> | mdz, what happened to yours? |
| 22:53 | <thor_> | do you have a permanent abode yet ? |
| 22:53 | <mdz> | Chutt: it's not unpacked yet |
| 22:53 | <mdz> | should be this week with luck |
| 22:53 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 22:53 | <Octane> | is there a last channel keybind? |
| 22:53 | <Chutt> | 'h' by default |
| 22:53 | <mdz> | I'm building a new one for a friend this weekend |
| 22:53 | <Octane> | thanks |
| 22:53 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 22:53 | <Octane> | <
