| --- | Log | opened Mon Jan 05 00:00:19 2004 |
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| 00:04 | <witten> | any idea what would cause the backend to spontaneously die? |
| 00:04 | <witten> | I'm not seeing anything helpful in the logs |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | get a backtrace? |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | don't run it as a daemon until you've got things working properly? |
| 00:05 | <witten> | run it from gdb? |
| 00:05 | <tmk> | speaking of backtraces |
| 00:05 | <tmk> | did you ever look at mine chutt? |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | unless it's printing out a message that's not being logged. |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | tmk, yeah |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | i can't reproduce it |
| 00:06 | <tmk> | ah well |
| 00:06 | <tmk> | thanks |
| 00:06 | <Chutt> | i know what's wrong, though |
| 00:06 | <tmk> | ah |
| 00:06 | <tmk> | old rev? :) |
| 00:06 | <Chutt> | it's not noticing that the remote backend went away |
| 00:06 | <Chutt> | naw, nothing's changed in there recently |
| 00:06 | <tmk> | cool. youdaman |
| 00:06 | <tmk> | you hear from mr. engel recently? |
| 00:06 | <Chutt> | i'm just not sure what to do, as on my setup, if i kill a remote backend, the master notices and deals with it properly |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | he was supposed to be out of town until this weekend |
| 00:07 | <tmk> | cool |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | so he'll hopefully be back around soon |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | going to work on his stuff soon? |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | i'd like to get that in mythtv =) |
| 00:07 | <tmk> | yeah i'm half done |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | excellent, thanks =) |
| 00:07 | <tmk> | got the stream stop/flush in there |
| 00:07 | <tmk> | just need to do the ff one |
| 00:07 | <tmk> | also i put in a stop caputre one |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | non-blocking writes? |
| 00:08 | <tmk> | hmm didn''t remember that |
| 00:08 | <Chutt> | was only a few lines for that |
| 00:08 | <tmk> | i'll look over his patch again |
| 00:08 | <tmk> | yeah i'll probably take that straight from the patch |
| 00:09 | <tmk> | lots of new subsystem-id's coming out lately |
| 00:09 | <tmk> | not sure if that's good or bad |
| 00:09 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 00:09 | <Chutt> | just card variants |
| 00:09 | <tmk> | 3 in the last week |
| 00:09 | <tmk> | right |
| 00:09 | <Chutt> | i'm just wondering if their inputs are differently ordered |
| 00:10 | <tmk> | yeah the 0.2.0 code will have all that easily configurable |
| 00:10 | <tmk> | or at least configurable :) |
| 00:10 | <vagrant> | ergh. |
| 00:10 | <vagrant> | are the keys configurable in mythtv? |
| 00:10 | <Chutt> | of course. |
| 00:10 | <tmk> | chutt: do you prefer any particular input name? I was thinking of changing "Tuner 0" to "Television" |
| 00:10 | <Chutt> | run mythweb, go to the settings page in there |
| 00:10 | <vagrant> | hrm. |
| 00:11 | <Chutt> | tmk, be prepared to break everyone's myth machine :p |
| 00:11 | <tmk> | right |
| 00:11 | <tmk> | i'll have to do that anyhow i think |
| 00:11 | <tmk> | for some people at least |
| 00:11 | <Chutt> | i can auto-upgrade people's databases |
| 00:11 | <tmk> | ie if they have the cards with inputs named differently |
| 00:11 | <tmk> | ie if composite 4 is the tuner |
| 00:11 | <Chutt> | i don't use the input number, i use the name of it |
| 00:11 | <tmk> | that's gonna have to change |
| 00:11 | <tmk> | right |
| 00:12 | <vagrant> | gah. I hate mysql. |
| 00:12 | <tmk> | perhaps i can commission a script from someone |
| 00:12 | <tmk> | to convert the database |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | i'll handle that |
| 00:12 | <tmk> | k |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | no worries |
| 00:12 | <tmk> | also 0.2.0 will support v4l2 streaming |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | i'll just have to make a decision on when to convert things over |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | eh, doesn't really matter to me |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | the one frame reads work well enough |
| 00:12 | <tmk> | well if you want yuv out |
| 00:12 | <tmk> | ;) |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | i don't, so =) |
| 00:13 | <tmk> | really? people don't want to playback their mpg4''s on the pvr350 |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | oh, true |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | i figured that'd work the same as the current decoder |
| 00:13 | <tmk> | we'll see |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | just writing full images instead of compressed stuff |
| 00:13 | <tmk> | yuv's a lot more data |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | please don't make it _too_ different :p |
| 00:14 | <tmk> | it'll work the same as currently |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | i'd like to use the same output class, if possible |
| 00:14 | <tmk> | jsut depends if you do the streamoff streamon stuff |
| 00:14 | <tmk> | optional to do streaming |
| 00:14 | <tmk> | hopefully write() is fast enough |
| 00:14 | <tmk> | i'm going to try doing zero-copy |
| 00:14 | <tmk> | we'll see how that goes |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | will i have to pre-scale things? |
| 00:14 | <tmk> | not sure |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | and how's audio sync going to work? |
| 00:15 | <tmk> | it scales mpg currently |
| 00:15 | <tmk> | there's a delay ioctl i'll have to write |
| 00:15 | <tmk> | :/ |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | it'd be neat if it could act as a dsp device for audio as well =) |
| 00:15 | <tmk> | yeah that'll take some r&d |
| 00:15 | <tmk> | it MAY be possible |
| 00:15 | <tmk> | but i havne't seen anything in the docs that indiciates it's possible |
| 00:15 | <tmk> | or not |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | nothing in those firmware docs about it, but |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | it'd make sense |
| 00:15 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 00:16 | <tmk> | that'd be nice |
| 00:16 | <tmk> | and if i can write audio-out |
| 00:16 | <tmk> | audio in should be pretty much the same |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | no soundcard =) |
| 00:16 | <tmk> | and i can finally have radio |
| 00:16 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 00:16 | <tmk> | my epia has it all builtin |
| 00:16 | <tmk> | :) |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | yeah, but the cabling mess is annoying |
| 00:16 | <tmk> | but it'd be really nice to get the sound out internally |
| 00:16 | <tmk> | cause the epia can't output digital out from an analog line-in |
| 00:17 | * | tmk shakes fist angrilyl |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | i really want to replace mine |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | i want two tuners |
| 00:17 | <tmk> | get a riser card |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | and i don't want to buy a new case |
| 00:17 | <tmk> | ahh |
| 00:17 | <tmk> | i still need to find a working powersupply for mine |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:17 | <tmk> | did i tell you about that? bought a flex-atx powersupply |
| 00:17 | <tmk> | long and thin |
| 00:18 | <tmk> | worked 1 out of 10 times |
| 00:18 | <tmk> | and the network didn't really work |
| 00:18 | <Chutt> | heh, sucks |
| 00:18 | <tmk> | so i returned it |
| 00:18 | <Chutt> | which powersupply? |
| 00:18 | <tmk> | got a new one |
| 00:18 | <tmk> | same problem |
| 00:18 | <tmk> | HEC-200 |
| 00:18 | <Chutt> | i've got a crappy flex-atx one with a loud 40mm fan in it |
| 00:18 | <tmk> | lemme find link |
| 00:18 | <Chutt> | so i replaced the fan with something quieter, so i'm waiting for it to die of heat |
| 00:19 | <ChaosExiguum> | Im using a 90w ac-dc converter and a dc-dc powersupply, no fans, no underpowering trouble |
| 00:19 | <tmk> | http://directron.com/hec200srt.html |
| 00:19 | <tmk> | ChaosExiguum: might work, but i'll be running 2 pvr cards and the epia |
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| 00:20 | <Chutt> | and a harddrive |
| 00:20 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 00:20 | <tmk> | and a dvd |
| 00:20 | <Chutt> | ah, no, i don't have that one.. |
| 00:20 | <tmk> | dvd/cdrw |
| 00:21 | <tmk> | i like the shape |
| 00:21 | <ChaosExiguum> | hmm, dunno about with 2 pvr cards... and all that stuff, I could get out the multimeter |
| 00:21 | <Chutt> | http://www.power-on.com/flexatx.html |
| 00:21 | <Chutt> | i've got the flex atx-135pf |
| 00:21 | <ChaosExiguum> | what sort of cases are you guys using? |
| 00:21 | <tmk> | does it work wiht the epia? |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | yeah, works fine |
| 00:22 | <tmk> | ChaosExiguum: i made mine :) |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | it's _loud_, though |
| 00:22 | <tmk> | oh hm |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | and i really didn't like performing surgery on mine |
| 00:22 | <tmk> | just the one fan? |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 00:22 | <tmk> | well, at least i know flex atx works with the epia |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | that came with the case i first got for the mini-itx |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | which won't fix a pvr-350 |
| 00:23 | <tmk> | i was concerned that the flex-atx was missing some power |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | fit |
| 00:23 | <ChaosExiguum> | tmk, thats really the best way to go I think now (having a $250 case thats really only worth $100) |
| 00:23 | <tmk> | ChaosExiguum: yeah, it's pretty cool and all |
| 00:23 | <tmk> | but the powersupply thing is killing me |
| 00:23 | <vagrant> | oh you sonsabitches. |
| 00:23 | <tmk> | returning internet orders sucks |
| 00:23 | <tmk> | don't get replacements for like 3 weeks |
| 00:23 | <vagrant> | I *know* you didn't make mythweb depend on apache mod_php. |
| 00:23 | <vagrant> | apparently you did though. |
| 00:24 | <vagrant> | beautiful. |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | vagrant, oh boohoo |
| 00:24 | <ChaosExiguum> | heh |
| 00:24 | <vagrant> | let's see what I have to do to fix this. |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | i'm pretty damn sure it's not dependent on it. |
| 00:25 | <DJ_Rican> | yep... and Apache mod_php can be hacked.... |
| 00:26 | <vagrant> | Chutt: setting php values in .htaccess needs mod_php - it's not the only way to do that, I don't think - I'm investigating it - but this is generally a "Bad Thing"(tm). |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | it's an example .htaccess |
| 00:27 | <vagrant> | DJ_Rican: are you making a poor attempt at being sarcastic? |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | nothing in there's _necessary_, iirc |
| 00:27 | <DJ_Rican> | me? no never... i can't be sarcastic.. i'm not a mythtv developer... :) |
| 00:27 | <vagrant> | Chutt: that's the first step I'm trying, disabling it. |
| 00:27 | <vagrant> | DJ_Rican: mod_php doesn't exactly have the best security record. |
| 00:28 | <DJ_Rican> | i know :) |
| 00:28 | <vagrant> | and it's especially not secure in a multi-user hosting environment |
| 00:28 | <DJ_Rican> | so it's not really sarcastic if it's true huh? |
| 00:28 | <vagrant> | ah. |
| 00:28 | <vagrant> | DJ_Rican: I thought you were implying I'm being anal about mod_php security. heh. |
| 00:28 | <DJ_Rican> | no dude |
| 00:29 | <Chutt> | yeah, mythweb works fine without the example .htaccess that's in there. |
| 00:29 | <vagrant> | excellent. |
| 00:29 | <vagrant> | gah. stupid apache. |
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| 00:33 | <vagrant> | I must set the REDIRECT_STATUS CGI variable. ergh. |
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| 00:35 | <DJ_Rican> | what's with the little jumping icon thingy when i view an mpg? |
| 00:35 | <Chutt> | what icon thingy? |
| 00:37 | <DJ_Rican> | ok.. i read in the user list that a .nuv file is simply a .mpg file renamed... so i renamed one to .mpg and when i view it... there's an icon jumping all over the place... a little white box with a dot |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | it's only a .mpg if you're using a pvr-250/350 or similar card. |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | if you're asking about some other player software than mythtv, that's not my problem |
| 00:38 | <DJ_Rican> | i am using a pvr-250 :) |
| 00:48 | * | nvision away init 0 |
| 00:49 | <tmk> | pvr-250 .nuv files are just .mpgs |
| 00:50 | <tmk> | you can play them in mplayer or whatever |
| 00:51 | <DJ_Rican> | tmk: i know... but if i copy them to my winders, thay have that elecard icon thingy, no matter what player i use... :( |
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| 00:53 | <tmk> | elecard? |
| 00:54 | <tmk> | probably because they supplied your mpg decoder |
| 00:54 | <extremis> | so... on the DVB settings, what is the option for record from transport stream? |
| 00:54 | <extremis> | rather, what does it imply |
| 00:56 | <vagrant> | there we go. |
| 00:56 | <DJ_Rican> | darn it, i deleted that elecard no i can't play them at all!! :( |
| 01:07 | <extremis> | saa7115.c:1118: unknown field `dec_use' specified in initializer |
| 01:07 | <extremis> | anyone gotten that before when compiling ivtv? |
| 01:07 | <tmk> | ext: uncomment the -DNEW_I2C line |
| 01:07 | <tmk> | in Makefile |
| 01:08 | <extremis> | thanks tmk |
| 01:08 | <tmk> | http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=1#q28 |
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| 01:28 | <vagrant> | wow. |
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| 02:27 | <shamoun_> | later all |
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| 03:06 | <tmk> | chutt: released new cvs-latest, with non-blocking writes, flushing 'stop decode' ioctl, and more complete speed ioctl |
| 03:07 | <tmk> | mention it to mr engel if you see him before i do |
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| 03:48 | <mchou> | dmitry: you around? |
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| 04:33 | <squinky> | hey so like |
| 04:33 | <squinky> | I just got mythmusic working |
| 04:33 | <squinky> | is it supposed to take about 15 seconds between songs, or am I just hosed |
| 04:34 | <squinky> | ? |
| 04:35 | <sfr> | it's not supposed to wait 15 secs. |
| 04:35 | <squinky> | aha |
| 04:36 | <squinky> | I'm mainly making sure this wasn't some kind of ill-advised design feature before I try chasing its source down |
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| 04:38 | <squinky> | it's probably got something to do with the POS machine I'm running it on |
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| 09:52 | <rcam> | Hello. |
| 09:53 | <rcam> | seen cecil |
| 09:53 | <rcam> | Seen cecil? |
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| 11:36 | <bitbyte> | sfr you there? |
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| 11:47 | <sfr> | bitbyte: hi |
| 11:48 | <bitbyte> | myth~sfr: i just got the file off that machine, works great |
| 11:48 | <bitbyte> | very nice uqlity |
| 11:48 | <bitbyte> | quality |
| 11:48 | <sfr> | great. i'm glad it works |
| 11:48 | <bitbyte> | me too |
| 11:48 | <bitbyte> | i really appreciate it! |
| 11:49 | <bitbyte> | my wife can't wait to see it |
| 11:49 | <bitbyte> | hehe |
| 11:49 | <bitbyte> | been a long time |
| 11:49 | <bitbyte> | i was reading online that it's from the 1920's |
| 11:49 | <bitbyte> | i didnt know it was that old |
| 11:49 | <kvandivo> | a file from the 1920s? that's impressive |
| 11:50 | <sfr> | hah. btw, nuvexport automatically created a SVCD file in PAL. that wouldn't have helped you i think. |
| 11:50 | <sfr> | kvandivo: yeah. i typed for 3 weeks 0's and 1's off an old book |
| 11:51 | <sfr> | bitbyte: i don't know about the story itself, but the movie is from the late 50's afaik. |
| 11:51 | <bitbyte> | really, thats interesting |
| 11:51 | <bitbyte> | sfr, i just read on a website that it's from the 1920's |
| 11:51 | <bitbyte> | hang on |
| 11:52 | <bitbyte> | http://german.about.com/library/weekly/aa010101a.htm |
| 11:52 | <bitbyte> | It's a bit bizarre when you think about it. A short British cabaret sketch from the 1920s has become a German New Year's tradition. Yet, although “Dinner for One or the 90th Birthday” is a famous cult classic in Germany and several other European countries, it is virtually unknown in the English-speaking world, including Britain, its birthplace. |
| 11:52 | <kvandivo> | never heard of it |
| 11:54 | <bitbyte> | kvandivo, what country do you live in? |
| 11:54 | <sfr> | funny that the quotes are in german too. i've never seen this sketch being played in german. |
| 11:54 | <bitbyte> | i've only seent he introduction in German |
| 11:54 | <bitbyte> | which is odd, because usually german tv overdubs the original soundtrack |
| 11:55 | <kvandivo> | usa |
| 11:55 | <bitbyte> | i wa windering if the german announcer at the beginning was part of the original film or if they overlayed him in the scene somehow |
| 11:55 | <bitbyte> | usa, so do i, i've never ever seen it int he US and other than myself and my wife i don't know anyone here who has heard of it |
| 11:55 | <bitbyte> | unless they are german or european |
| 11:56 | <sfr> | usually = 99% of all foreign movies :(. but playing it in english gives it a different atmosphere i think. |
| 11:56 | <bitbyte> | sfr, agreed, but they translated alf |
| 11:56 | <bitbyte> | hehe, you havent lived til you've seen alf, golden girls and John Wayne in german |
| 11:56 | <bitbyte> | hehee |
| 11:56 | <sfr> | hehe. must sound very strange if you know the original |
| 11:57 | <bitbyte> | very strange |
| 11:57 | <bitbyte> | :P |
| 11:57 | <bitbyte> | in .be and .nl they subtitale, although soemtimes they don't even do that, most everyone speaks english |
| 11:57 | <bitbyte> | subtitle |
| 11:59 | <sfr> | i wish they would do that in germany too. |
| 11:59 | <Sobek> | Hey guys quick question I am running RedHat 9 on my myth box and after mplayer runs the window focus is wrong and the remote obviously does not get the job done. I am using the default window manager is there a way around this besides changing window mangers? |
| 12:00 | <thor_> | change focus policy |
| 12:01 | <pahli_bar> | what plugin pops up mplayer? |
| 12:01 | <thor_> | mythvideo |
| 12:01 | <Sobek> | Cool.. mythvideo |
| 12:01 | <Sobek> | I will try that |
| 12:01 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: or mythdvd |
| 12:01 | <thor_> | heh, oh yeah |
| 12:01 | <thor_> | that too |
| 12:01 | <pahli_bar> | heh. |
| 12:01 | <pahli_bar> | thanks |
| 12:02 | <pahli_bar> | any plans of embedding it in a qwidget/qdialog |
| 12:02 | <thor_> | we need a native player |
| 12:02 | <thor_> | but mplayer is a handy stop gap |
| 12:03 | <pahli_bar> | that would be the ultimate goal |
| 12:03 | <bitbyte> | sfr, never happen, they translate EVERYTHING, even "microwave" haha.! |
| 12:03 | <sfr> | what format do you use for archiving recorded shows? especially when using a pvr350 card. |
| 12:04 | <sfr> | bitbyte: true. btw, do you know what a 'handy' is? |
| 12:04 | <bitbyte> | no |
| 12:05 | <thor_> | immediately useful (at hand) |
| 12:05 | <sfr> | it's a mobile phone :) |
| 12:05 | <pahli_bar> | heh |
| 12:05 | <bitbyte> | ahh |
| 12:05 | <bitbyte> | i was thinkin that |
| 12:06 | <bitbyte> | its the only thing i could think of |
| 12:06 | <sfr> | even cellphone makes more sense than 'handy' |
| 12:06 | <pahli_bar> | is that british slang? |
| 12:06 | <sfr> | probably if you don't know it, pahli_bar :) |
| 12:07 | <kvandivo> | definitely not _only_ british |
| 12:07 | <pahli_bar> | i haven't heard it being used here in us |
| 12:07 | <pahli_bar> | s/us/US |
| 12:08 | <thor_> | defintely sounds like Essex Man speak |
| 12:08 | <kvandivo> | Ready to the hand; near; also, suited to the use of the |
| 12:08 | <kvandivo> | hand; convenient; valuable for reference or use; as, my |
| 12:08 | <kvandivo> | tools are handy; a handy volume. |
| 12:08 | <kvandivo> | that's from websters 1913 dictionary |
| 12:09 | <pahli_bar> | oh no. i mean in as a synonym for a cellphone |
| 12:09 | <kvandivo> | ahhh..... hmmmm |
| 12:09 | <pahli_bar> | i know what handy means ... grrr |
| 12:09 | <kvandivo> | i thought the brits always called them 'mobiles'. (with a long 'i') |
| 12:09 | <sfr> | kvandivo: i don't think there's a meaningfull explanation for 'handy' that describes a phone. that's a prime example of denglish i think. |
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| 12:14 | <sfr> | why would windows media player v7 fail to play a SVCD? it doesn't recognize the mpeg file created by nuvexport |
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| 12:16 | <thor_> | becuase it sucks |
| 12:17 | <sfr> | i hope the svcd itself is ok. i don't have a standalone dvd player to test. |
| 12:17 | <thor_> | mplayer svcd:// ? |
| 12:17 | <bitbyte> | svcd is mpeg2 |
| 12:17 | <sfr> | that's working, but mplayer takes almost everything :) |
| 12:17 | <thor_> | handy |
| 12:17 | <bitbyte> | do you have the mpg2 codecs for it? |
| 12:18 | <bitbyte> | sometimes they just dont recognize the format |
| 12:18 | <sfr> | it's a default w2k instllation. |
| 12:18 | <bitbyte> | you can go into the mpegav folder and play the dat file as an mpg |
| 12:18 | <bitbyte> | win2k doesnt support mpg2 playback by defualt |
| 12:18 | <bitbyte> | you have to install some 3rd party playback codec |
| 12:18 | <bitbyte> | like windvd or power dvd |
| 12:19 | <bitbyte> | mpeg2 is proprietary and cant be licensed for free |
| 12:19 | <bitbyte> | whereas mpg1 is free |
| 12:19 | <sfr> | ok, i think i have windvd. checking |
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| 12:20 | <bitbyte> | pl |
| 12:20 | <bitbyte> | ok |
| 12:20 | <sfr> | of course i don't have it ;) |
| 12:20 | <bitbyte> | download the free trial version |
| 12:21 | <bitbyte> | i prefer powerdvd myself |
| 12:21 | <sfr> | looks like the trial version so that one i have |
| 12:21 | <bitbyte> | hehe ok |
| 12:21 | <sfr> | but not a licensed copy if you know what i mean |
| 12:21 | <bitbyte> | that will get you int he ballaprk |
| 12:21 | <bitbyte> | i can find you some codecs if you like |
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| 12:22 | <sfr> | you don't need to. i only use it for work stuff. |
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| 12:25 | <pahli_bar> | sfr: usually (s)vcd have some videostream resolution dependency. wmp might not play non-standard vcds. but i could be totally wrong |
| 12:25 | <pahli_bar> | s/dependency/restriction |
| 12:26 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: the format should be ok, the file is in PAL mode with 480x576 resolution |
| 12:28 | <pahli_bar> | sfr: how did you make the iso/cue-bin. using vcdimager? |
| 12:28 | <sfr> | pahli_bar: yes |
| 12:29 | <pahli_bar> | sfr: then should not be a problem at all. as bitbyte said, missing codecs might be the most likely reason |
| 12:30 | <sfr> | probably. and windvd's temp license also expired looong time ago. but what do i care. will test the cd somewhere else |
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| 12:36 | <bitbyte> | pahli may be right, but to my knowledge the only problem is that wmp doesnt support mpeg2 by default |
| 12:36 | <bitbyte> | hang on sfr, i can find you a free codec |
| 12:38 | <pahli_bar> | http://www.nwlink.com/~zachd/pss/pss.html#mpeg2 |
| 12:38 | <bitbyte> | thats a codec for him pahli? |
| 12:38 | <pahli_bar> | yes. not sure if its free |
| 12:39 | <sfr> | pahli_bar bitbyte thx. i |
| 12:39 | <pahli_bar> | hmm. nope. usual registration crap |
| 12:39 | <sfr> | 'll install it later |
| 12:39 | <bitbyte> | http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/encoding_plugin.html |
| 12:40 | <bitbyte> | those are marked as to wtherther they are free or not |
| 12:40 | <bitbyte> | http://www.digital-digest.net/downloads/files/encode/mpeg2codec_installer.zip |
| 12:40 | <bitbyte> | tadaaa |
| 12:40 | <bitbyte> | the power of google |
| 12:40 | <bitbyte> | hehe |
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| 13:04 | <sfr> | mpeg2codec doesn't work with media player. so be it. reboot into linux, please... |
| 13:06 | <sfr> | GM to give away 1000 cars? Hey VW you hear that! |
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| 14:04 | <crib2> | Question: I had to dump and rebuild my mythconverg database. I still have a directory with my .nuv files in it...any way to recover those? |
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| 14:06 | <Chutt> | contrib/myth.rebuilddatabase.pl |
| 14:07 | <crib2> | thx i'll try that |
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| 14:07 | <tmk> | Chutt: do you think david will be making another patch for myth/ivtv? or will you just modify his slightly? |
| 14:09 | <Chutt> | he'll probably check stuff into mythtv cvs |
| 14:09 | <Chutt> | if the driver stuff's all there |
| 14:09 | <tmk> | cool |
| 14:10 | <Chutt> | i may update his patch until he's able to do that, though |
| 14:10 | <Chutt> | as I want to try out current ivtv cvs |
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| 14:30 | <vagrant> | hrm. |
| 14:31 | <vagrant> | when it says "2004-01-05 13:28:59 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV", is that referring to lirc mode? |
| 14:31 | <sfr> | looks like it's time for someone to start mythradio :) |
| 14:32 | <vagrant> | eh? |
| 14:33 | <sfr> | vagrant: both, your question and my line are not related to lirc |
| 14:33 | <sfr> | someone reported succes on getting the tuner on a pvr350 card working |
| 14:34 | <vagrant> | ah. |
| 14:34 | <thor_> | FM tuner ? |
| 14:34 | <sfr> | yepp |
| 14:34 | <vagrant> | is there a tuner on the pvr250? |
| 14:34 | <thor_> | cool |
| 14:34 | <dja> | nope :-( |
| 14:34 | <sfr> | vagrant: no, sorry |
| 14:39 | <vagrant> | doh. |
| 14:39 | <vagrant> | lirc mode is for sticky keys, right? |
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| 14:43 | <vagrant> | geez. this documentation isn't very clear. |
| 14:43 | <thor_> | have no idea what you mean by "lirc mode" |
| 14:43 | <vagrant> | in lircrc |
| 14:44 | <pahli_bar> | vagrant: you r not being very clear |
| 14:45 | <vagrant> | ok then. |
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| 14:46 | <vagrant> | when using lirc, the linux infrared remote control programs, what exactly do modes in the lircrc do? |
| 14:47 | * | pahli_bar looks at his .lircrc and can't find any "modes" |
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| 14:47 | <vagrant> | pahli_bar: you obviously didn't put any in then, suggesting you haven't heard of them. I absolve you from answering my question. |
| 14:47 | <vagrant> | heh. |
| 14:48 | <thor_> | grep modes /etc/lircd.conf |
| 14:48 | <thor_> | nada |
| 14:48 | <vagrant> | thor_: did I say lircd.conf? |
| 14:48 | <racer_away> | modes in lircrc??? Nope |
| 14:48 | <vagrant> | lircd.conf sets up individual remote control keycodes. |
| 14:48 | <pahli_bar> | vagrant: no. you just made of yourself |
| 14:48 | <pahli_bar> | s/made/made a fool/ |
| 14:48 | <vagrant> | http://www.lirc.org/html/configure.html#lircrc_format |
| 14:49 | <racer_away> | why no use the sample lircrc from mythtv |
| 14:49 | <racer_away> | bye now! |
| 14:49 | <vagrant> | ... |
| 14:49 | <vagrant> | I *have* used the sample lircrc. |
| 14:50 | <thor_> | grep "mode" ~/.lircrc |
| 14:50 | <vagrant> | and I'm looking to extend functionality. |
| 14:50 | <thor_> | still nada |
| 14:50 | <vagrant> | thor_: just because you don't have it in your configuration doesn't mean it can't exist. |
| 14:50 | <thor_> | agreed |
| 14:50 | <vagrant> | sorry for even fucking asking, I assumed you guys might have looked a bit at configuring lirc. |
| 14:51 | <pahli_bar> | vagrant: hmm. the documentation (at the link you provided) is pretty clear at explaining what modes do |
| 14:52 | <vagrant> | fine then. I didn't find it very clear. |
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| 15:49 | <Chutt> | thor, how's the mfd stuff coming? |
| 15:49 | <thor_> | moving along |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | just noticed your commits today =) |
| 15:50 | <thor_> | :-) |
| 15:50 | <thor_> | multithreaded http thingy works |
| 15:50 | <thor_> | just doing on the fly ogg/flac --> wav converting now |
| 15:51 | <Chutt> | oh, for itunes to play? |
| 15:51 | <thor_> | yup |
| 15:51 | <thor_> | we can advertise "play your oggs in iTunes" |
| 15:51 | <thor_> | hee hee |
| 15:51 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 15:52 | <thor_> | then need to finish the daap client plugin |
| 15:52 | <thor_> | then need to right a rudimentary client to see if any of this is working as planned |
| 15:52 | <thor_> | w/right/write |
| 16:03 | <kvandivo> | i'm sure it will be, of course |
| 16:04 | <kvandivo> | none of us have ever experience the working model not working exactly as planned |
| 16:04 | <thor_> | rudimentary, yes .... as planned, well, that's the plan :) |
| 16:05 | <Chutt> | ah, i see why mythmusic's deleting/reentering everything on every scan |
| 16:05 | <thor_> | something goofy I did ? |
| 16:05 | <Chutt> | naw, sfr missed one place |
| 16:06 | <thor_> | ah ... the /location/folder change |
| 16:06 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 16:06 | <thor_> | good to get that fixed ... tired of re-entering playlists |
| 16:07 | * | sfr doesn't use playlists :) |
| 16:07 | <sfr> | what/where did i screw up? |
| 16:07 | <Chutt> | BuildFileList() |
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| 16:07 | <Chutt> | in main.cpp |
| 16:07 | <Chutt> | it's using the full path |
| 16:12 | <sfr> | ah, shoot |
| 16:13 | <kvandivo> | bang |
| 16:13 | <thor_> | Chutt, at your leisure, you can rip out /mfd/mfd/plugins/daapserver/httpd_persistent from mfd cvs |
| 16:14 | <Chutt> | just cvs remove all the files in the directory |
| 16:15 | <thor_> | I'm trying to get rid of the directory itself |
| 16:15 | <thor_> | or we can just use -P |
| 16:15 | <Chutt> | cvs update -P |
| 16:15 | <thor_> | yup, just annoying to have it sitting there |
| 16:19 | <sfr> | i think i didn't miss it. my idea was that we always keep the full path and only cut if off for updates in the db. |
| 16:24 | <steelep> | with mfd are we going to finally be able to watch tv while playing music? |
| 16:24 | <steelep> | :) |
| 16:25 | <thor_> | yup ... well, that's the plan |
| 16:26 | <steelep> | awesome. |
| 16:26 | <steelep> | while you are doing daap, is it something winamp can connect to? |
| 16:26 | <steelep> | or just an iTunes thing. |
| 16:26 | <thor_> | as soon as winamp adds a daap client :-) |
| 16:27 | <steelep> | I really like winamp5 now, it fixed everything I ever hated about winamp |
| 16:27 | <steelep> | maybe a shoutcast server would suffice for my needs instead of daap for now |
| 16:28 | <steelep> | I just want to get at my home library from work |
| 16:28 | <steelep> | I hated downloading things over and over again |
| 16:28 | <sfr> | thor_: so how are playlists broken? my little test playlist is still there after exiting/restarting mythmusic |
| 16:29 | <thor_> | hmmm |
| 16:29 | <thor_> | after a scan ? |
| 16:29 | <Chutt> | actually, my problem was doubled //'s |
| 16:29 | <racer32> | yes after a scan |
| 16:29 | <steelep> | I have the autoplaylist thingy pretty close to being done in php |
| 16:29 | <sfr> | thor_: oh, one sec... |
| 16:29 | <steelep> | now I just need to convert it to c++ |
| 16:30 | <thor_> | (I'm hitting the same database with mfd stuff, so it could be that) |
| 16:30 | <steelep> | is someone doing cover art display in the visualizer? |
| 16:30 | <thor_> | it's a frequent request |
| 16:30 | <thor_> | but I don't think anyone's actively workin gon it |
| 16:31 | <steelep> | I have spent the last 3 days working on fixing all my tags and adding embedded coverart.... |
| 16:31 | <Chutt> | if i had a reliable way to grab coverart, i'd probably add it |
| 16:31 | <racer32> | visualizer? By selecting music showing the cover would be nice! |
| 16:31 | <steelep> | I am up to "B" :) |
| 16:31 | <Chutt> | but there isn't one, so i haven't ever bothered |
| 16:31 | <thor_> | I think you can do it through itms://, but I'm still poking at the xml |
| 16:32 | <racer32> | i talked to pahli and after his work on the gallery he's thinking about mythmusic! :) |
| 16:32 | <racer32> | Nice interface for selecting music! |
| 16:32 | <steelep> | creating a visualizer plugin that extracts the art from a file, or scans the directory for jpgs should be pretty straight forward, I'll add it to my list of things to do |
| 16:33 | <Chutt> | very straightforward |
| 16:33 | <thor_> | you can get aac previews via itms:// (with a robust query mechanim), and the returned aac has a jpeg inside it |
| 16:33 | <sfr> | thor_: yes, created a playlist exit/restart mythmusic. scan for music files exit/restart mythmusic. the playlist is still in the db. are they being deleted from the db for you? |
| 16:34 | <thor_> | they were, but as I said, it may well be mfd code that's doing it |
| 16:34 | <sfr> | Chutt: ? |
| 16:34 | <racer32> | my playlist are also gone for some reason |
| 16:34 | <Chutt> | i just committed some stuff to use QDir::cleanDirPath |
| 16:34 | <Chutt> | on the music path |
| 16:34 | <Chutt> | before blindly removing that many characters from the filename =) |
| 16:34 | <Chutt> | fixed all my problems |
| 16:35 | <thor_> | cool |
| 16:35 | <sfr> | Chutt: it was only doing it half-blindly. it knows how many characters to remove. ;) |
| 16:36 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:36 | <sfr> | Chutt: i really didn't expect _you_ to have '//' in your path. |
| 16:37 | <Chutt> | i didn't think i did |
| 16:38 | <sfr> | Chutt: but before it deleted your playlists? or all musicmetadata entries? |
| 16:39 | <Chutt> | deleted all the musicmetadata entries |
| 16:39 | <Chutt> | so, in effect, cleared out my existing playlists |
| 16:39 | <Chutt> | not that i had any on this machine =) |
| 16:39 | <steelep> | btw: does the new wma support include wm9? |
| 16:39 | <Chutt> | try it and see |
| 16:39 | <Chutt> | i have absolutely no idea |
| 16:39 | <steelep> | I will when I get home |
| 16:39 | <steelep> | I have to do a full cvs refresh tonight |
| 16:40 | <thor_> | sfr, new entries, new db id's |
| 16:40 | <sfr> | thor_: sure |
| 16:40 | <steelep> | wm9 video support would be nice, I have a few HD videos in wm9 |
| 16:41 | <Chutt> | that's up to other projects |
| 16:41 | <steelep> | I know, just blabbering |
| 16:43 | <sfr> | Chutt: thx |
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| 16:54 | <sfr> | Chutt: BuildFileList is actually ok then? |
| 16:56 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 16:56 | <Chutt> | it was |
| 16:57 | <sfr> | thinking about it, i'd think it should even work with // in the path, it's just one more character to remove from the filename string |
| 16:59 | <Chutt> | the filename returned by BuildFileList won't have the doubled / |
| 16:59 | <sfr> | ah, of course. i shouldn't drink (even reasonable amounts ;)) and think |
| 17:00 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:00 | <kvandivo> | don't drink and think... that's a new one |
| 17:00 | <thor_> | crap |
| 17:00 | <Chutt> | so, any word on that streaming code? |
| 17:00 | <thor_> | time to give up thinking |
| 17:02 | <sfr> | not really. didn't do much/nothing over the holidays. i have extraction of stream metadata working, but somehow it gets confused after a few songs. |
| 17:03 | <sfr> | maybe 'don't think, just drink' is a better option for some. |
| 17:03 | <thor_> | hiccup |
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| 17:06 | <mythMichale2> | moanin' |
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| 17:32 | <sfr> | Chutt: any idea how that could happen? 2004-01-05 23:05:20 Error writing stringlist <CR>Remote encoder not responding. <CR>ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/include/qt3/qvaluelist.h <CR>QSocketDevice::writeBlock: Invalid Socket . I have lots of these messages after ... hitting <PgUp> iirc. Live-TV still works but not Pausing/Rewind/etc... |
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| 18:13 | <sfr> | even when exiting my only (remote) frontend, there are still 16 open connections to 6543 listed on the backend and the frontend can't connect. thor, what about that 15 frontends you mentioned recently? |
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| 18:22 | <cjs_> | anyone want to buy a PVR-350? (almost new) |
| 18:23 | <mecraw> | how much and why are you selling it? |
| 18:24 | <cjs_> | $170... |
| 18:24 | <cjs_> | my box is having DMA isses |
| 18:24 | <cjs_> | issues |
| 18:24 | <cjs_> | and i cannot afford a new mobo |
| 18:24 | <pahli_bar> | cjs_: heh. newegg has it for 174$ with free shipping |
| 18:25 | <sfr> | cjs_: sell the mobo |
| 18:25 | <cjs_> | so im going to sell (or return) the pvr 350 |
| 18:25 | <cjs_> | not in stock, they don't |
| 18:25 | <pahli_bar> | might be out of stock |
| 18:25 | <cjs_> | sfr, its way old |
| 18:26 | <sfr> | hm |
| 18:26 | <cjs_> | and the cpu is only a p3 667 |
| 18:26 | <pahli_bar> | cjs_: not thinking of buying a new mobo/cpu? |
| 18:26 | <cjs_> | i guess im going to return the pvr-350...just thought i'd offer it to someone who can't find one |
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