| --- | Log | opened Sun Jan 04 00:00:08 2004 |
| 00:00 | <ShockValue> | wow, easytag is really borked.. 25% of my 6000 files just dont have (readable) tags.. even though when i load them in EasyTag it says they do.. myth and xmms can't see them. |
| 00:01 | <cmorgan> | xmms is funny with tags |
| 00:01 | <cmorgan> | might be reading only id3v2 tags if no v1 tag is present or something |
| 00:01 | <ShockValue> | no, cause it reads the other 75% fine. 100% of them are id3v1 |
| 00:02 | <cmorgan> | hmm |
| 00:02 | <ShockValue> | before i just re-did all my tags, i stripped all tag information just to make sure there wasnt multiple formats etc. |
| 00:03 | <ShockValue> | or at least, accodring to EasyTag I did :D |
| 00:03 | <cmorgan> | ahh, was just throwing that out |
| 00:03 | <ShockValue> | nah its cool |
| 00:03 | <cmorgan> | someone mentioned some issue with tags in #xmms and something like that |
| 00:03 | <ShockValue> | alternative viewpoints are nice, often pointes out my own flawed reasoning :) |
| 00:04 | <ShockValue> | so far im still convinced easytag isnt working as-advertised :) |
| 00:04 | <ShockValue> | well thats good at least.. its way easier for me to find a new tagger than it is to try and debug myth.. |
| 00:05 | <DJ_Rican> | where do find the READMEs for the different myth modules? |
| 00:05 | <pahli_bar> | DJ_Rican: if you compiled from source readmes are in the source tarballs for each module. |
| 00:06 | <pahli_bar> | DJ_Rican: if not its packaging dependent |
| 00:06 | <ShockValue> | looking for docs, one sec |
| 00:07 | <ShockValue> | try: |
| 00:07 | <ShockValue> | . /usr/share/doc/* |
| 00:07 | <DJ_Rican> | i didn't they were all rpms |
| 00:09 | <DJ_Rican> | thx found them |
| 00:11 | <pahli_bar> | hmm. sodipodi is real nice. only if it didn't crash so often |
| 00:11 | <ShockValue> | what is sodipodi? |
| 00:12 | <pahli_bar> | ShockValue: vector editor like adobe illustrator |
| 00:12 | <ShockValue> | ah cool |
| 00:12 | <ShockValue> | was hopign it was a tagger that I had missed >:) |
| 00:13 | <pahli_bar> | ShockValue: if you like commandline... id3ed is nice |
| 00:14 | <mikekedl> | cmorgan: for now (on my machine at least) I have mythmusic working with a bunch if #ifdef ARTS |
| 00:14 | <mikekedl> | after I started looking into it, it was much easier; so much other junk going on |
| 00:14 | <cmorgan> | mikekedl: nice |
| 00:14 | <mikekedl> | sounds great so far :-) |
| 00:15 | <mikekedl> | I didn't want to rewrite all the mutex/thread/visual stuff whoever wrote it had integrated all thru the audio out code |
| 00:15 | <ShockValue> | pahli_bar: does it support multiple files at a time? |
| 00:16 | <cmorgan> | mikekedl: yeah. that stuff should be refactored a bit so it isn't so tied to the output driver |
| 00:16 | <mikekedl> | is the mythmusic maintainer here? still don't know if they'll take it :-/ |
| 00:16 | <cmorgan> | that code can probably only take so many more ifdefs ;-) heh |
| 00:17 | <mikekedl> | cmorgan: do you maintain it? |
| 00:17 | <cmorgan> | i do not |
| 00:17 | <mikekedl> | lol |
| 00:17 | <cmorgan> | heh |
| 00:17 | <cmorgan> | but i can look into changing it to make it easier to support other output types |
| 00:17 | <cmorgan> | is arts selectable at runtime? |
| 00:17 | <cmorgan> | or is that a compile time thing? |
| 00:18 | <mikekedl> | at this exact moment in time its compile time |
| 00:18 | <mikekedl> | since if you don't have arts includes/libs it won't even compile |
| 00:18 | <pahli_bar> | ShockValue: oh yes. |
| 00:19 | <mikekedl> | cmorgan: on my system I could make it run time selectable, but that wouldn't let it even compile then for people that don't have arts |
| 00:19 | <mikekedl> | and seems kind of odd to have compile time switch and then runtime select as well, but I guess you can do that.... xmms does.... |
| 00:19 | <mikekedl> | eh, I guess that makes sense |
| 00:20 | <cmorgan> | mikekedl: yeah. need to do a configure test and decide whether to build the code or not. or optionally dlopen the arts library at runtime |
| 00:20 | <mikekedl> | I'll just send along this patch and see who sticks their head up to see what they want to do about multiple choices; this seems to be the first "choice" for mythmusic audio output |
| 00:21 | <mikekedl> | this will allow people to play with it; but whole mythmusic audio thing should probably get tweaked to do oss/alsa, arts, jackit thingy, etc. |
| 00:22 | <mikekedl> | I find it interesting that I had to massage the audio out in mythtv (like oss does IIRC) but not in mythmusic.... |
| 00:23 | <mikekedl> | off to make a patch file.... |
| 00:25 | <pahli_bar> | again just being curious. what is the motivation behind multiple app soundcard access for myth |
| 00:26 | * | DJ_Rican is gonna crawl under a rock and... i can't get mythtv to re-rip the same track... :( |
| 00:35 | <DJ_Rican> | this sucks... if i rip a track and sound doesn't work, i can't re-rip it using a different sound option... :( |
| 00:35 | <mikekedl> | pahli_bar: if you are asking me why? because I run multiple apps that try to open the sound device: AIM, Window Manager (sound effects), mplayer, xmms, etc, apps I am writing... |
| 00:35 | <mikekedl> | I get tired of starting/killing artsd |
| 00:35 | <mikekedl> | waiting for an app to exit, etc |
| 00:36 | <mikekedl> | if I have xmms paused, it doesn't release the audio, so I can't watch a 30 minute show on myth; I have to kill xmms; if I want to pause mythmusic and watch a dvd; I have to kill myth; etc |
| 00:36 | <mikekedl> | make sense? |
| 00:37 | <mikekedl> | with a sound server of hw capable of mixing (I wish I had I guess) you can run lots of apps that share the device and none have to close or exit or get in "the right state" |
| 00:37 | <mikekedl> | of=or |
| 00:38 | <cmorgan> | well if all of those apps supported your sound server you'd be all set ;-) |
| 00:39 | <mikekedl> | they do |
| 00:40 | <mikekedl> | xmms, mplayer, aim, stuff I work on, and myth |
| 00:40 | <cmorgan> | yep |
| 00:40 | <mikekedl> | and xine |
| 00:41 | <ShockValue> | does arts cause a loss in fidelity? I wouldnt mind using arts for myth, but not if it sacrificed quality |
| 00:41 | <mikekedl> | wmorgan: and the wm itself of course; everything all nice and happy now :-) |
| 00:41 | <mikekedl> | shockvalue: sounds the same to me; the only issue I know of, as cmorgan pointed out, is does the latency cause problems |
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| 00:42 | <pahli_bar> | mikekedl: ah. |
| 00:42 | <mikekedl> | with music it shouldn't be an issue; with tv it could |
| 00:42 | <monkeyBox_> | Hi all. I'm having trouble playing mythmusic files that are mounted over NFS.. I keep getting a decoder error. When I play the music locally it seems to work fine. |
| 00:42 | <monkeyBox_> | I've made sure |
| 00:42 | <mikekedl> | but it "looks" ok to me; but I've only watched a few hours with arts... |
| 00:42 | <ShockValue> | except for perhaps gapless playback(?) |
| 00:43 | <pahli_bar> | mikekedl: unlike you i run a dedicated mythbox |
| 00:43 | <monkeyBox_> | I've made sure that the mythtv user has permissions on the files as well |
| 00:43 | <ShockValue> | monkeyBox_: strange that.. i have it playing via nfs OK with no errors currently |
| 00:43 | <mikekedl> | pahli_bar: I am testing in that mode at the moment; since I don't want to break my "wifes" system |
| 00:43 | <mikekedl> | (my laptop has a tv tuner built in) |
| 00:44 | <pahli_bar> | mikekedl: nice. what laptop and what tuner? |
| 00:44 | <ShockValue> | monkeyBox_: can you play the NFS files with a different audio player (like xxms or something) ? |
| 00:44 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: you awake? |
| 00:44 | <monkeyBox_> | ShockValue: Yes, I can play mp3s w/ mpg123 or madplay ... What's your export line look like? |
| 00:44 | <ShockValue> | umm, let me check |
| 00:44 | <mikekedl> | pahli_bar: sager 2.4Ghz P4, Avermedia tv system; came with a remote and everything :-) |
| 00:45 | * | pahli_bar drools |
| 00:45 | <mikekedl> | work bought it of course |
| 00:45 | <mikekedl> | I beat the #$%%$ out of it day and night :-) |
| 00:45 | <mikekedl> | it is off like 60 minutes a day as I drive to/from work |
| 00:46 | <ShockValue> | ./raid/audio 10.1.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw) |
| 00:46 | <ShockValue> | ./raid/video 10.1.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw) |
| 00:46 | <ShockValue> | (minus the "." to make it paste OK" |
| 00:46 | <mikekedl> | pahli_bar: over a year and a half old now; should be pretty cheap |
| 00:46 | <mikekedl> | ie, 1200-1500 I would guess now (USD) |
| 00:46 | <pahli_bar> | mikekedl: i think i'm going apple for my next purchase |
| 00:46 | <mikekedl> | ug |
| 00:47 | <mikekedl> | my grandfather in law loves them :-) |
| 00:47 | <mikekedl> | I haven't used them much since the "old days" when I used to sell them |
| 00:47 | <monkeyBox_> | ShockValue: what about "sync" or "async" ? |
| 00:47 | <mikekedl> | owned so many apple 2, 2+, 2e, mac 128, mac ... stuff |
| 00:47 | <ShockValue> | isnt that in fstab? |
| 00:47 | <ShockValue> | (im kinda new to nfs) |
| 00:47 | <pahli_bar> | i meant a powerbook/ibook. those things look lickingly good |
| 00:48 | <mikekedl> | pahli_bar: now that they're going *nix I may take a peak |
| 00:48 | <ShockValue> | well, what i posted there is my entire exports file |
| 00:48 | <mikekedl> | pahli_bar: but pc stuff is so cheap |
| 00:48 | <mikekedl> | and multi-source |
| 00:48 | <mikekedl> | apple == 1 source |
| 00:48 | <pahli_bar> | mikekedl: thats my motivation exactly. bsd base |
| 00:48 | <monkeyBox_> | hmm.. ok. I'll take a look at it some more... |
| 00:49 | <pahli_bar> | mikekedl: used to love freebsd. till the hw support started going down |
| 00:49 | <ShockValue> | im not very linux smart, but since i have it workin ok, let me know if you want any more copy+paste :D |
| 00:49 | <mikekedl> | pahli_bar: http://sagernotebooks.com; the model on the front page is the same line I have, just its great great grandchild |
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| 00:50 | <mikekedl> | its a honkin big machine though :-) |
| 00:50 | <mikekedl> | 10.5 lbs |
| 00:51 | <pahli_bar> | thats what i would to avoid. my old dell weighs about 8lbs and i got shoulder burns from lugging it around |
| 00:51 | <pahli_bar> | small and sleek is what i'm going for |
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| 00:53 | <monkeyBox_> | ShockValue: Cool.. Got it to work. I guess I had some strange options in my fstab file |
| 00:54 | <ShockValue> | nice |
| 00:55 | <ShockValue> | Sanguine:/raid/video /Video nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr 0 0 |
| 00:55 | <ShockValue> | thats what my fstab entry looks like. |
| 00:56 | <mikekedl> | pahli_bar: does what I want is what I'm looking for :-) small and sleek is nice, but functionality comes first for me |
| 00:57 | <mikekedl> | besides, I need the exercise! |
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| 01:18 | <mikekedl> | mythmusic patch off the the mailing list; now to finish the patch for mythtv |
| 01:18 | <mikekedl> | arts should work for music if you run "configure --enable-arts" |
| 01:18 | <DJ_Rican> | whenever the developer of mythdvd especially the rip part comes in, could someone let me know please... |
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| 01:29 | <pahli_bar> | DJ_Rican: still struggling with the rip |
| 01:30 | <DJ_Rican> | i kinda gave up until someone that knows how to fix it comes along... |
| 01:30 | <pahli_bar> | DJ_Rican: let me try. i have never used mythdvd though. |
| 01:31 | <DJ_Rican> | well, if you rip a track and it comes out wrong, it won't let you re-rip it... |
| 01:31 | <pahli_bar> | DJ_Rican: as root. type mysql |
| 01:31 | <pahli_bar> | once you get the mysql prompt type use mythconverg; |
| 01:31 | <DJ_Rican> | i'm not going into that... i'm watching a movie right now... thx |
| 01:31 | <pahli_bar> | DJ_Rican: fine |
| 01:32 | <DJ_Rican> | if you know the exact field and the table that mythdvd writes to, then that could help... |
| 01:33 | <pahli_bar> | only way i can do that is by installing mythdvd, which i have no use for |
| 01:34 | <DJ_Rican> | thx bud, don't go through the trouble... it's a pain... |
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| 01:44 | <pahli_bar> | DJ_Rican: i just parsed the source quickly and there are two tables for mythdvd: dvdinput and dvdtranscode. |
| 01:47 | <DJ_Rican> | ok... i know dvdtranscode was one... |
| 01:48 | <mikekedl> | just emailed mythtv patch to the list to use arts sound daemon; YMMV |
| 01:48 | <DJ_Rican> | maybe if i delete the records in those tables, i can rip again.... |
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| 02:26 | <vagrant> | augh. |
| 02:26 | <vagrant> | this is driving me nuts. |
| 02:26 | <vagrant> | I go to watch tv, and the screen goes blank. |
| 02:26 | <vagrant> | 2004-01-04 01:23:09 ReadStringList timeout (quick). |
| 02:26 | <vagrant> | QSocketDevice::writeBlock: Invalid socket |
| 02:26 | <vagrant> | 2004-01-04 01:23:09 Error writing stringlist |
| 02:26 | <vagrant> | Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... |
| 02:27 | <vagrant> | the last line is repeated indefinitely as far as I can tell. |
| 02:29 | <DJ_Rican> | vagrant: i had that problem yesterday.. it was related to not using the correct ivtv drivers... someone in #ivtv-dev helped me fix it... |
| 02:31 | <vagrant> | hrm. |
| 02:31 | <vagrant> | it seems to work fine when I mplayer /dev/video though. |
| 02:32 | <vagrant> | did. seem to work fine. |
| 02:32 | <vagrant> | ergh. |
| 02:33 | <vagrant> | DJ_Rican: got a little more info? what exactly wasn't correct? the cvs snapshot version? an option? |
| 02:35 | <DJ_Rican> | i ended up recompiling and installing again |
| 02:35 | <vagrant> | hrm. |
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| 10:44 | <Rroet> | hihooo |
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| 11:45 | <nchip> | 2004-01-04 18:44:07 Not compiled with any useable video output method. |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | why did you disable xv support? |
| 11:46 | <MythMichale> | Guten Morgen :) |
| 11:46 | <nchip> | duh. cvs requires CONFIG += using_xv |
| 11:47 | <nchip> | I just copied my working .13 settings.pro and assumed it would work with cvs. sorry for the noise |
| 11:47 | <Chutt> | why did you disable it? |
| 11:47 | <Chutt> | oh, that's stupid |
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| 12:02 | <DJ_awake> | hmm... something is eating up my HD space... :( |
| 12:03 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Is it a sneaky little rodent, crawling around your house and terrorizing your computer system? |
| 12:03 | <DJ_awake> | might be... |
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| 12:28 | * | DJ_awake has given up trying to get remote working for now... hanging around channel to learn stuff... :) |
| 12:28 | <MythMichale> | What??? |
| 12:29 | <DJ_awake> | i can't get this thing to work... |
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| 12:47 | <DJ_Rican> | why when i start mythbackend i get multiple running processes? |
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| 13:00 | <DJ_Rican> | can i take snapshots from live tv? |
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| 13:14 | <ShockValue> | woo hoo! finally got Myth to recognise my entire audio collection properly.. |
| 13:15 | <ShockValue> | turns out it was EasyTag either a) not completley compatible with MythTv, or b) EasyTag being partially broken :) |
| 13:16 | <sfr> | what version of easytag did you use? |
| 13:17 | <ShockValue> | 0.30c |
| 13:19 | <ShockValue> | about 25% of my music files that were tagged with easytag weren't showing up myth.. so I loaded them up in a different tagger and the tags didnt show up there either. Re-tagged them with tagger#2 and now they work fine. |
| 13:19 | <sfr> | weird. |
| 13:20 | <ShockValue> | yep, caused me quite some frustration... im good now though, just tired from tagging until 4am :) |
| 13:21 | <kvandivo> | interesting.. apparently the 'category' isn't reliably getting put into the programinfo object when viewing your list of prerecorded shows |
| 13:23 | <Chutt> | kvandivo, you're not seeing the segfault in the linear blend filter, are you? |
| 13:24 | <kvandivo> | nope |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | damn |
| 13:25 | <Chutt> | i need someone competent to help debug it :( |
| 13:25 | <kvandivo> | wait.. maybe i am.. let me rerun.. (haven't been using myth much for actual tv watching lately.. :) |
| 13:27 | <kvandivo> | videoout_xv.cpp:841 sound familiar? |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | sweet |
| 13:28 | <kvandivo> | let me throw valgrind, etc at it |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | nono |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | filters/linearblend/ |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | filter_linearblend.cpp |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | the linearBlendMMX() function |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | just in that function, can you try changing all ebx to edx? |
| 13:29 | <kvandivo> | one sec |
| 13:30 | <Chutt> | i think that fixes it, just need to confirm |
| 13:31 | <kvandivo> | hmm.. lotta those little suckers.. methinks a :.,'a/sebx/edx/g is in order |
| 13:32 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 13:32 | <Chutt> | can't, there's stuff in the cpuid function that needs ebx |
| 13:32 | <kvandivo> | well, i set a mark ( 'a ) at the end of the function and did that from the beginning. :) |
| 13:33 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 13:33 | <kvandivo> | the s and the / are transposed in that, though... |
| 13:33 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 13:33 | <kvandivo> | fixed it for me |
| 13:34 | <kvandivo> | video came up, nothing strange apparent, etc etc. |
| 13:34 | <kvandivo> | you wanna patch? |
| 13:35 | <Chutt> | already did it in my local tree |
| 13:35 | <kvandivo> | figured.. but thought i would offer.. |
| 13:36 | <Chutt> | thanks =) |
| 13:44 | <kvandivo> | well i'll be.. sure enough, HandleQueryRecordings isn't grabbing the category.. |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | it wasn't filled in originally |
| 13:48 | <kvandivo> | did you mean to say something in the response to Debabrata? :) |
| 13:48 | <Chutt> | yes |
| 13:48 | <Chutt> | i'm waiting to get the email so i can respond to it properly |
| 13:49 | <kvandivo> | just strange to see a reply from you without any text.. that's all.. no biggie |
| 13:50 | <Chutt> | clicked send before typing in 'applied' |
| 13:50 | <Chutt> | :p |
| 13:50 | <kvandivo> | that most often happens to me when attaching files.. i'll write some glorious description of something that i then don't bother attaching |
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| 14:19 | <vagrant> | anyone have a sample lircrc built for mythtv I can use? |
| 14:20 | <josephk> | there's an example in the contrib or configfiles directory I believe |
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| 14:21 | <vagrant> | hrm. didn't see one, I'll look again. |
| 14:21 | <vagrant> | thanks |
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| 15:07 | <FatLazyNinja> | Does anyone know how to get the snes or nes emulator to go fullscreen? |
| 15:16 | <thor_> | cool, first "why nupple" post of 2004 ! |
| 15:17 | <FatLazyNinja> | :) |
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| 15:21 | <DJ_Rican> | FatLazyNinja: you have them working under mythtv? :) |
| 15:22 | <FatLazyNinja> | yes |
| 15:22 | <FatLazyNinja> | but they are very small windows |
| 15:23 | <engie> | Does anyone know id a h323 chat plugin is being developed anywhere? If not I'll have a go! |
| 15:25 | <DJ_Rican> | ohh.. |
| 15:25 | * | DJ_Rican is going to try that later... :) xmame, snes, nes... |
| 15:25 | <FatLazyNinja> | I am using snes9x and fecu-sdl, let me know if you have better luck then me :P |
| 15:29 | <DJ_Rican> | FatLazyNinja: keep checking here... someone might post a reply... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123678 |
| 15:30 | <FatLazyNinja> | ok thanks, I'll bookmark it |
| 15:30 | <FatLazyNinja> | I saw a few threads on the mythtv mailing list too, but no answers |
| 15:31 | <DJ_Rican> | :( |
| 15:31 | <DJ_Rican> | did you read the mythgame README? |
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| 15:32 | <FatLazyNinja> | yeah, I don;t remember it talking about this issue |
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| 15:32 | <DJ_Rican> | you could also try running snes9x by itself, setting th fullscreen option then trying it from mythtv |
| 15:33 | <FatLazyNinja> | oh I have a question about that |
| 15:33 | <FatLazyNinja> | how do I launch an app in X fom console |
| 15:33 | <FatLazyNinja> | I think last time I tried to do snes9x it told me it couldnt connect to an x server |
| 15:34 | <FatLazyNinja> | from console that is |
| 15:34 | <DJ_Rican> | hmm.. did you have x running? |
| 15:34 | <DJ_Rican> | there should be an icon under games or create one that points to snes9x... |
| 15:35 | <FatLazyNinja> | oh sorry forgot to say, I'm running knoppmyth and its usinf fvwm |
| 15:36 | <FatLazyNinja> | I can switch to it by hitting ctrl alt f7 |
| 15:37 | <DJ_Rican> | ohh!! :( |
| 15:37 | <FatLazyNinja> | and I can grep xfree86 from ps |
| 15:37 | <DJ_Rican> | it might be missing something then |
| 15:37 | <FatLazyNinja> | so you think its an issue with the wm? |
| 15:38 | <DJ_Rican> | yes |
| 15:39 | <FatLazyNinja> | ok thanks I will try to attack the problem from that angle |
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| 15:41 | <davatar> | there's a bug in the new keybindings code, some older hardcoded keys are still honored, i.e. up/down=skip in playback... Where would this be done? |
| 15:42 | <davatar> | rather channelup/channeldown |
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| 15:58 | <etcp> | Hi, I'm trying to run mythfilldatabase, and it says: ...TV.xmltv does not exist..., so I try to run tv_grab_uk --configure manually and get: not well-formed (invalid token) at line 11, column 28, byte 287 at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2/i686-linux/XML/Parser.pm line 187. Does anyone have any ideas? thanks! |
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| 16:11 | <engie> | etcp: I understood tv_grab_uk was broken - I renamed the german one I think |
| 16:11 | <engie> | seemed to work |
| 16:15 | <etcp> | Ah, OK, then I'll give that a try - thanks |
| 16:16 | <engie> | Does anyone here know if there is any documented hints on how to produce myth plugins? |
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| 16:19 | <thor_> | engie, both mythweather and mythvideo are resonably well commented |
| 16:19 | <engie> | thor_: I'm flicking through mythweather now |
| 16:20 | <engie> | I've never done a QT app before though, it's a bit of a learning curve |
| 16:21 | <DJ_Rican> | how do i remove commercials from a video file? |
| 16:22 | <thor_> | engie, yup ... but there's not actually that much Qt left ... just the events mechanism really |
| 16:22 | <engie> | thor_: Right-e-o |
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| 16:38 | <girliegir> | Having trouble with myth, have Hauppauge! PVR-350 |
| 16:39 | <girliegir> | anyone around who can assist? |
| 16:39 | <Chutt> | mailing list. |
| 16:40 | <girliegir> | been there for the last 3 days |
| 16:40 | <girliegir> | thought i'd try here |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | then ask a question on it. |
| 16:41 | <girliegir> | we've got it working fine if we set tv out to be the pvr350, but how do we make it send it to the computer screen |
| 16:41 | <Chutt> | you don't. |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | if you want to use the pvr-350's decoder, you have to use the tv out on the pvr-350. |
| 16:42 | <girliegir> | it's impossible to watch tv on the screen if you have a pvr350? |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | unless you want to use software decoding |
| 16:42 | <girliegir> | i'll let the computer do the decoding, i just want to see it |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | in which case, it was pretty damn stupid to have bought the -350 |
| 16:42 | <girliegir> | that's fine, that's what i want it to do at this moment |
| 16:43 | <Chutt> | then follow the setup instructions in the mythtv docs. |
| 16:43 | <girliegir> | the 350 out is going to my projector tv |
| 16:43 | <etcp> | you can do: |
| 16:43 | <etcp> | mplayer /dev/video0 |
| 16:44 | <girliegir> | etcp, thanks changed the 350 out back and forth a couple times and it's all good |
| 16:44 | <girliegir> | so what made you full of sunshine today Chutt? |
| 16:44 | <etcp> | ok |
| 16:44 | <Chutt> | people asking stupid tech support questions in here? |
| 16:45 | <girliegir> | so what is the room for then? |
| 16:45 | <Chutt> | development? |
| 16:45 | <girliegir> | funny, it just says topic is Http://mythtv.org, perhaps making that known would prevent user questions |
| 16:46 | <josephk> | doubt it |
| 16:46 | <Chutt> | seeing as you went ahead and asked your questions _after_ i said to ask on the mailing list |
| 16:46 | <Chutt> | i doubt it |
| 16:46 | <etcp> | you did invite the question! |
| 16:47 | <Chutt> | on the mailing list |
| 16:47 | <etcp> | your invite wasn't clear to ask on the ML... |
| 16:47 | <girliegir> | well, if as a developer, that's your attitude, i'd suspect you ward off quite a few from becoming a developer |
| 16:48 | <girliegir> | enjoy |
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| 16:48 | <josephk> | sounds like someone from yesterday |
| 16:48 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:49 | <etcp> | Apart from the last point, I think she's got a point - it's non-obvious what this channel is for |
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| 16:49 | <PhracturedBlue> | Chutt, are you around? |
| 16:49 | <Chutt> | etcp, the channel isn't advertised _anywhere_ as a tech support channel |
| 16:49 | <engie> | Most dev channels say so in the title - or have #mythtv and #mythtv-dev |
| 16:49 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 16:50 | <etcp> | chutt, sure, but when in the channel, without seeing any adverts, how would I know that? |
| 16:50 | <PhracturedBlue> | I have a question about the seek table: in NuppelVideoRecorder, we update the seektable on 'S' frames, but in nuppeldecoder, we update it on the first frame found in a GetFrame call if no Position Map exists. |
| 16:50 | <Chutt> | you wait a little bit and see what people are talking about? |
| 16:51 | <etcp> | I have - there's alot of tech support going on! |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | phracturedblue, on the first frame found? |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | where's that? |
| 16:51 | <josephk> | I don't know about anyone else, but I come here to complain |
| 16:51 | <davatar> | eh.. how about just putting "development" in the topic.. |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | i had it in there last year |
| 16:51 | <PhracturedBlue> | yeah:if (!hasFullPositionMap) (*positionMap)[lastKey / keyframedist] = currentposition; |
| 16:51 | <nchip> | like anyone ever reads the topics :P |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | no one paid any attention to it then |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | phracturedblue, isn't that in the S type, though? |
| 16:52 | <PhracturedBlue> | currentpoition is only set at the beginning of GetFrame |
| 16:52 | <josephk> | just change the channel name to #not-mythtv |
| 16:52 | <etcp> | josephk: I'm not here to complain at all! I'm taking the newbie viewpoint, and trying to be constructive |
| 16:52 | <etcp> | or change the topic to "tech support channel is over -> there" |
| 16:52 | <Chutt> | it looks right to me |
| 16:52 | <josephk> | etcp: I'm talking about me:) |
| 16:52 | <etcp> | ;-) |
| 16:52 | <Chutt> | currentposition should be the beginning of that S frame |
| 16:53 | <PhracturedBlue> | Chutt, well it might be a bug in the transcoder, but can't NVR write an audio frame b4 the first video frame? |
| 16:53 | <etcp> | Anyway, said my piece - I'll shut up now! Thankyou all you lovely MythTV developers! |
| 16:53 | <Chutt> | true |
| 16:54 | <Chutt> | but, should that hurt anything? |
| 16:54 | <PhracturedBlue> | in which I could have: A,SV,SA,V |
| 16:54 | <PhracturedBlue> | and currentposition will point at the 'A' frame. |
| 16:54 | <Chutt> | why wouldn't it point to the SV frame? |
| 16:55 | <Chutt> | currentposition's updated at the beginning of each frame in ND::GetFrame |
| 16:55 | <PhracturedBlue> | because GetFrame always stops on the last VideoFrame....so I could have 'V,A,SV,SA,V' and GetFrame would start on that 'A' which is where currentposition would be set, |
| 16:56 | <PhracturedBlue> | oops. |
| 16:56 | <Chutt> | right, it'd read the A frame, process it |
| 16:56 | <PhracturedBlue> | never mind |
| 16:56 | <Chutt> | set currentposition again |
| 16:56 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:56 | <Chutt> | thought it was outside the while? |
| 16:56 | <PhracturedBlue> | yeah, I missed that it was in the gotvideo loop. |
| 16:56 | <PhracturedBlue> | grrr. |
| 16:57 | <PhracturedBlue> | well, then, there is a bug in the transcoder afterall, because it is setting the poition Map to the 'A' frame. guess I need to fix that. |
| 16:57 | <PhracturedBlue> | thx |
| 16:57 | <Chutt> | doesn't the transcoder just let the NVR do the position map? |
| 16:58 | <PhracturedBlue> | yeah, but not when doing mpeg4->mpeg4 |
| 16:58 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 16:58 | <PhracturedBlue> | anyhow, this one is easy to fix at least, as we have currentposition right here. |
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| 17:04 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: can i get write permissions to mythgallery cvs |
| 17:04 | <Chutt> | you don't have it? |
| 17:04 | <Chutt> | you should have write everywhere |
| 17:04 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: oh never tried. |
| 17:05 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:05 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: not ready to commit yet. still working on it |
| 17:06 | <davatar> | for the keybindings wouldn't it be better to make tv playback/live tv different contexts? since browsemode/channel change/etc dissappear.. |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | davatar, i decided that that wasn't worth it |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | lot of overlap |
| 17:08 | <davatar> | yeah, the overlap is where I'm having problems.. I thought I could get around it by assigned to same key to different actions in the same context, but only the first gets processed.. |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | which keys? |
| 17:12 | <davatar> | channelup/down and jump/ffwd/rwnd. |
| 17:13 | <davatar> | there is also a bug in which channelup/down is used for jump when watching pre-recorded... So after I fixed that it became impossible to get my channel buttons to do jump during pre-recorded |
| 17:13 | <davatar> | line 1417/1419 of tv_play.cpp |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | no, it's not a bug that channel up/down is jump when it's watching a recording |
| 17:14 | <davatar> | well the keybinding doesn't work :) |
| 17:14 | <Chutt> | works here |
| 17:15 | <davatar> | what I meant is it doesn't work when watching a recording.. it works only in livetv mode.. you're stuck with channelup/down otherwise. |
| 17:15 | <Chutt> | channel up/down during a recording act as jump back/forward |
| 17:15 | <Chutt> | that works fine here |
| 17:16 | <davatar> | say for example you wanted to use a unique pair of keys for jump regardless of what you're watching, that's not possible. It's not a bug in the sense it doesn't work they way it was intended.. |
| 17:17 | <Chutt> | there's a separate set of jump keys |
| 17:17 | <davatar> | ..which is ineffective while watching a recording :) |
| 17:18 | <Chutt> | erm, no, they work fine during a recording |
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| 17:19 | <davatar> | ok.. then it is a bug. When 'if (StateIsPlaying(internalState))' JUMPFFWD/RWND are never used. |
| 17:19 | <Chutt> | of course it's not in that if clause |
| 17:19 | <Chutt> | it's in higher up in that function |
| 17:20 | <Chutt> | that if clause is only things for playback |
| 17:20 | <Chutt> | just as the if clause immediately previous to that is only things for live tv mode |
| 17:20 | <Chutt> | the common actions are before _that_ |
| 17:20 | <davatar> | I see... |
| 17:21 | <Octane> | when setting up an external change channel command... do you need to put anything else beside the script's filename |
| 17:21 | <Chutt> | nope |
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| 17:23 | <Octane> | thanks |
| 17:24 | <Octane> | should the console show anything? i get a channel change and mythtv's osd but not channel change is transmitted |
| 17:26 | <Chutt> | if you have the verbose command line option on |
| 17:26 | <Chutt> | in 'channel' mode |
| 17:28 | <Octane> | thank you, ill take a look |
| 17:28 | <Octane> | i cant believe i actually got my blaster working, i can actually move the box next to the tv and take away the monitor |
| 17:29 | <robbie> | you hooking myth to your cable box? |
| 17:29 | <Octane> | its been hooked, but not i can control it |
| 17:29 | <Octane> | now* |
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| 17:29 | <robbie> | heh, i'm planing to do same tonight |
| 17:30 | <robbie> | my cable box has a serial port, so im trying that first |
| 17:35 | <DJ_Rican> | what can i use to convert .nuv to mpg or another format? |
| 17:37 | <DJ_Rican> | also, how do i edit commercials out? |
| 17:38 | <Chutt> | DJ_Rican, you _really_ need to use the mailing lists |
| 17:38 | <Chutt> | just search them for things |
| 17:39 | <DJ_Rican> | ohh... :) on the mythtv website? |
| 17:39 | <Chutt> | they're linked to from there, yes. |
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| 17:39 | <DJ_Rican> | ok.. |
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| 17:41 | <DJ_Rican> | hmm... i found them but no search |
| 17:42 | <Octane> | dude |
| 17:42 | <Octane> | its right there! |
| 17:43 | <DJ_Rican> | ok, this is where i'm at: http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users/ |
| 17:43 | <Octane> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?do=search;guest=1952080&t=search_engine |
| 17:43 | <Octane> | next time read the page |
| 17:43 | <Octane> | there is a link to it right there |
| 17:43 | <Octane> | actually im wrong, but there is a link to it from mythtv.org |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | it is in the sentence _after_ the link to the signup page |
| 17:44 | <DJ_Rican> | i went to the first myth-users link... gossamer is the second link :) |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | so it does require a person to read _two_ sentences |
| 17:45 | <Octane> | DJ_nixbox cute |
| 17:45 | <Octane> | damnit, two dj's |
| 17:46 | <DJ_nixbox> | it's my backup... hehe |
| 17:47 | * | DJ_Rican doesn't care what anyone says, you guys rock! :) |
| 17:48 | <Octane> | I changed the external channel change command yet mythtv wont use it, im sure im missing a really basic step |
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| 17:52 | <pahli_bar> | Chutt: do you mind if i do a complete rehaul of mythgallery. i found the current framework too restrictive for my modifications and the variable naming confusing. |
| 17:53 | <Chutt> | 'course not |
| 17:54 | <pahli_bar> | thanks. i will put up a link to a tarball for you to test before i make any commits |
| 17:54 | <Chutt> | make commits whenever you want |
| 17:55 | <Chutt> | a release is still a little way off, so i don't mind at all if things are temporarily broken |
| 17:55 | <pahli_bar> | thanks :) |
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| 18:11 | <Octane> | i dont get it, i defined an external channel change command and yet myth doesnt use it. anyone know off the top of their head the name of the variable that stores it? ill look in the db |
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| 18:27 | <Octane> | has anyone here gotten the external channel change command to work? my ir blaster is working after 3 weeks, but mythtv wont use the script although its specified |
| 18:32 | <Chutt> | set the script to 'echo' or whatnot |
| 18:32 | <Chutt> | so it'll print out the channel number it's turning to |
| 18:35 | <Octane> | it already does that |
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| 18:35 | <Octane> | #!/bin/csh |
| 18:35 | <Octane> | echo "changing to $1" |
| 18:35 | <Octane> | /usr/local/bin/channel.pl $1 & |
| 18:35 | <Octane> | just like the howto says |
| 18:36 | <Octane> | running change_channel.csh XX in console works just fine |
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| 18:36 | <Chutt> | which input on the capture card are you using? |
| 18:36 | <Octane> | svideo |
| 18:37 | <Chutt> | oh well |
| 18:37 | <Octane> | lol? |
| 18:37 | <Chutt> | if you were using television, it'd have been because you hadn't set the 'tuneto' channel, but that's not it =) |
| 18:37 | <Octane> | lol :( |
| 18:38 | <Chutt> | dunno what to tell you |
| 18:38 | <Octane> | do you know off the top off your head the name of the variable that holds on that string? |
| 18:38 | <Octane> | i cant seem to find it in settings |
| 18:38 | <Chutt> | it's in the cardinput table |
| 18:38 | <sfr> | bitbyte: you want a svcd? only 340MB to d/l *g* |
| 18:39 | <Octane> | ahh |
| 18:39 | <Octane> | yah its fine then |
| 18:39 | <Octane> | change_channel.csh $1 |
| 18:39 | <Octane> | does it append the $1? |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | shouldn't have |
| 18:41 | <Octane> | that was me in one of my tests |
| 18:41 | <Octane> | inputting '13' for example, changes mythtv, displays the osd, the cahnnel info, the program info |
| 18:41 | <Octane> | it doesnt execute the external command |
| 18:41 | <bitbyte> | i got the whole hting sfr |
| 18:41 | <bitbyte> | i think |
| 18:41 | <bitbyte> | gotta take it home to try it out |
| 18:42 | <pahli_bar> | Octane: maybe try entering the entire path |
| 18:42 | <Octane> | pahli_bar: tried that |
| 18:42 | <sfr> | ah, i tried nuvexport today, and suddenly it worked :/. |
| 18:43 | <Chutt> | octane, have you run it with '--verbose channel' yet? |
| 18:43 | <bitbyte> | dont deete it yet plz |
| 18:43 | <bitbyte> | delete |
| 18:43 | <bitbyte> | let me make sure it works |
| 18:43 | <Octane> | Chutt: i have not |
| 18:43 | <bitbyte> | the machine i tried it on got no vid, but ut did have audio |
| 18:44 | <sfr> | bitbyte: ok, the svcd is on CD now anyways |
| 18:44 | <Octane> | ill try now |
| 18:44 | <bitbyte> | ok, i meant the original. not the vcd tho |
| 18:44 | <bitbyte> | do you still have the nuv? |
| 18:45 | <DJ_Rican> | ok, you guys are probably going to answer sarcastically again but, after i select my cut-points and hit X, what to do next to cut the commercials? and yes, i've search the mailing lists already... and i have the printed key.txt and mythtv documentation here... :) |
| 18:45 | <sfr> | bitbyte: yes, i'll keep it for a while |
| 18:45 | <Chutt> | dj_rican, that's been discussed in the past couple days on the -users list. |
| 18:45 | <bitbyte> | thanks a bunch sfr |
| 18:45 | <bitbyte> | i gotta go grill some chicken |
| 18:45 | <bitbyte> | bbl |
| 18:46 | <Octane> | Chutt its not outputting anything when "channel channels" |
| 18:46 | <Chutt> | then it's doesn't think it has the option set for some reason |
| 18:48 | <DJ_Rican> | somehow i thought that was going to be the answer... :| |
| 18:49 | <Octane> | Chutt any ideas on what steps i should take? |
| 18:49 | <Chutt> | octane, not really |
| 18:49 | <abhi> | how's the suppourt for the pvr250/350? i read that captions werent working, but that was dated a few months back |
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| 18:50 | <Chutt> | captions still won't work |
| 18:50 | <Chutt> | as the driver doesn't support em yet |
| 18:51 | <Octane> | in cardinput, whats the cardinputid variable |
| 18:52 | <Chutt> | internal id |
| 18:52 | <Octane> | it was set to 2 |
| 18:52 | <robbie> | what are caption anyhow? |
| 18:52 | <robbie> | captions |
| 18:52 | <Octane> | robbie like for deaf people |
| 18:52 | <Octane> | like you have in bars |
| 18:52 | <Octane> | on a football game |
| 18:52 | <Octane> | what the announcers say |
| 18:52 | <robbie> | ahh |
| 18:52 | <robbie> | cool |
| 18:53 | <pahli_bar> | its nice to have captions. keep wife from waking up when you want to watch tv late at night |
| 18:53 | <robbie> | hehe |
| 18:54 | <Octane> | i guess ill email the list about my external command issue |
| 18:55 | <Chutt> | be best, someone else may have had the same problem |
| 18:55 | <pahli_bar> | hmmm.. avermedia has a new card M150 |
| 18:55 | <Chutt> | only other thing i can tell you is to check out the source |
| 18:55 | <Chutt> | pahli_bar, from the specs, it looks close |
