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| 01:01 | <nziarek> | chutt: what type of changes are being made to the playback box? |
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| 04:41 | <wigginjs> | website down? |
| 04:42 | <choenig> | seems to be |
| 04:42 | <wigginjs> | damn |
| 04:51 | <wigginjs> | hmm, only thing I can't figure out is this. When I use a program like XawTV to watch TV the audio stream sounds fine, but when viewing with mythtv the audio sounds garbled with artifacts. This happens with both MP3 compression and uncompressed audio, any ideas? |
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| 08:11 | <lydickaw> | stupid probably-faq-by-now question (but mythtv.org seems down?): is there support for mjpeg encoding in hardware via the matrox cards within mythtv? I googled and saw conflicting reports. |
| 08:12 | <lydickaw> | (i'm trying to decide on a good tuner card to get) |
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| 10:54 | <nziarek> | lydickaw: wait for the site to come back up :) i think there is, but I know very little about it |
| 11:07 | <orangey> | what site? |
| 11:07 | <orangey> | nziarek: SQOSD's first version is ready! |
| 11:08 | <orangey> | What are versioning standards? |
| 11:08 | <orangey> | Right now I'm going with the "whim" standard of version keeping |
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| 11:53 | <nziarek> | orangey: versioning for graphics? I don't know, cause I like to release stuff and then work on it a little. I guess I am a fan of the whim standard :) |
| 11:53 | <nziarek> | do you have the sasquatch OSD ready for dowload? I'd like to try it |
| 11:55 | <nziarek> | orangey: do you think the theme should include the OSD graphics, or should it be seperate (like now)? |
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| 11:56 | <nziarek> | ooops :) didn't see that orangey had quit :) |
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| 12:31 | <PeteCool> | weird, I can't get mythfrontend to display anything now |
| 12:32 | <PeteCool> | I did 'make distclean' |
| 12:33 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: does it not come up - does it say it's connected to the backend? |
| 12:33 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: yes, it says it's connecting, but nothing comes up on the screen |
| 12:34 | <PeteCool> | I am making it start from ssh, but like this: mythfrontend -- -display :0 |
| 12:34 | <PeteCool> | it has worked forever |
| 12:35 | <PeteCool> | and the script I used does make anything come up either |
| 12:35 | <PeteCool> | does make = doesn't make |
| 12:36 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: I'll try to find a ps/2 mouse and start it live from the X session |
| 12:36 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: hmmm...you could try exporting the DISPLAY varaible, that's what I do because I was having problems with the xv code not listening to the -display command line |
| 12:37 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: even with DISPLAY=IP:0 |
| 12:39 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: what about MythWeather or one of the other modules? |
| 12:39 | <Ripp> | think a 1.2g cel can handle 2 tuners? |
| 12:40 | <Ripp> | no live, just recording |
| 12:40 | <moegreen> | Ripp: that might be a bit much for a 1.2 celeron. Though you could drop the resolutions down enough that it would work |
| 12:41 | <Ripp> | it wouldn't be hi res or anything, probly 352x480 (or 240 even) |
| 12:42 | <Ripp> | trying to put a cheep box together |
| 12:43 | <Ndiin> | my 1.2 athlon can pull off one record at ~40%, live at ~65%, to give some scaling ideas |
| 12:44 | <Ripp> | what fmt/res/bitrate? |
| 12:45 | <Ndiin> | 480x480, 3000 scaled |
| 12:46 | <Ndiin> | mpeg4 |
| 12:48 | <Ripp> | does hi bitrate=less compression=less cpu% |
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| 12:49 | <Ndiin> | Not necessarily |
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| 12:54 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: mythweather does come up |
| 12:54 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: mythmusic too |
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| 13:08 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: were there changes made to cvs in the last few days that might make mythfrontend not display anything? |
| 13:09 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: other modules do show up |
| 13:10 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 13:11 | <PeteCool> | hmm... I plugged in a mouse, rebooted, and now it fine. weird |
| 13:13 | <Chutt> | might be somethin werid with X, i dunno |
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| 13:17 | <PeteCool> | QClipboard::setData: Cannot set X11 selection owner for PRIMARY... hmm. |
| 13:17 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: is the cvs server working? Looks like I can checkout anything |
| 13:19 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: though I can ping cvs.mythtv.org |
| 13:22 | <mdz> | it's probably just slow |
| 13:23 | <Chutt> | sorry, i had it unplugged because i was filing my taxes and stuff, didn't want the bandwidth drain |
| 13:24 | <mdz> | did you use an online service? good experience? |
| 13:24 | <mdz> | that's on my list for this weekend as well |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | i use taxact |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | been buying their deluxe version the past couple years |
| 13:24 | <mdz> | does their site work with browsers other than IE? |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | it's a windows program |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | i don't know about their online stuff |
| 13:24 | <mdz> | ah |
| 13:25 | <mdz> | don't have windows here |
| 13:31 | <Chutt> | pretty nice piece of software, though |
| 13:31 | <Chutt> | suggested a change that saved me a grand off what i owed =) |
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| 13:45 | <wigginjs> | is the cvs of mythmusic compilable? |
| 13:45 | <wigginjs> | for the past week or some I've been getting some LCDdestroy() error |
| 13:45 | <wigginjs> | some = so |
| 13:46 | <PeteCool> | it should be working now |
| 13:46 | <wigginjs> | i just grabbed it like, 5 seconds ago =) |
| 13:46 | <mdz> | Chutt: your new mythtv-dev name is "Isaiah" |
| 13:46 | <wigginjs> | PeteCool: you know the one, in main.o? |
| 13:47 | <mdz> | old testament slip I guess |
| 13:49 | <thor> | wigginjs, you need to have a recent (last couple days) mythlib (in MC) for mythmusic |
| 13:51 | <wigginjs> | ok, lemme give that a whirl |
| 13:57 | <wigginjs> | hmm, that works pretty well =) |
| 13:58 | <thor> | Even faster Interface version will be in CVS shortly |
| 14:07 | <wigginjs> | apparently my database is out of whack (according to mythmusic), I added metadata.sql to the database, what could be wrong? |
| 14:14 | <PBlue_away> | can anyone tell me if it would be difficult to make it so linking against libmythtv doesn't require linking againnst X? when I built my little test program, it wouldn't run until I gave it access to the display, even though it isn't used in my app. |
| 14:16 | <moegreen> | PBlue_away: I don't think mythbackend needs a display, you can look at that |
| 14:16 | <Bonkers> | you'd have to modify libmythtv |
| 14:17 | <PBlue_away> | I know it requires changing libmythtv, I'm just wondering how hard it is. |
| 14:17 | <Bonkers> | mythbackend only links libmyth-0.8.so.0 |
| 14:17 | <Bonkers> | you can probably jsut comment out all the X11 code if you don't need it |
| 14:20 | <thor> | wigginjs, did you run setup? |
| 14:20 | <PBlue_away> | well, commenting it out isn't an option. this is supposed to be part of myth in the end. |
| 14:20 | <PBlue_away> | I'll look at mythbackend more closely I guess. |
| 14:22 | <PBlue_away> | mythbackend does linnk gainnst X: '...-lmyth-0.8 -lXv -lXinerama -lmp3lame -lqt-mt -lXext -lX11 -lm -lpthread' bbut your right, it doesn't need access to the display when starting, so I need to figure out why my app does. |
| 14:25 | <Bonkers> | don't trust that |
| 14:25 | <Bonkers> | trust ldd |
| 14:26 | <Bonkers> | if you do -lXv and never call a function in libXv, you don't get a dependency |
| 14:26 | <Bonkers> | althoguh it does have dependencies on those, heh |
| 14:26 | <Bonkers> | but libmythtv is still not listed there |
| 14:26 | <Ndiin> | Bonkers: mythbackend links to Qt, which links to X. |
| 14:28 | <PBlue_away> | yeah but my app does nothing more than call NuppelVideoPlayer::ReencodeFile which never touches the display, yet it dies with a 'Can't open display' message (which you can't debug in gdb, because it exits successfully) |
| 14:28 | <mdz> | PBlue_away: you're initializing the mythcontext wrong then |
| 14:28 | <PBlue_away> | mdz: I think I copied it right out of mythbackend. will check tho. |
| 14:31 | <PBlue_away> | I do this...' gContext = new MythContext(false);' it is what mythbackend does. |
| 14:37 | <PBlue_away> | it appears to be this that is causing it 'QApplication a(argc, argv);' adding a 'false' at the end fixes it |
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| 14:44 | <nziarek> | Chutt: you mentioned some changes to the playback box yesterday - will that affect graphics already made? |
| 14:47 | <moegreen> | nziarek: No, i'm working to make it so you can do what is in your mockups just by changing an XML config file |
| 14:47 | <moegreen> | nziarek: When I'm finished you should be able to put any of the 'widgets' anywhere on the screen, make them bigger, etc |
| 14:51 | <nziarek> | moegreen: oh...ok, thanks for the clarification |
| 14:54 | <moegreen> | nziarek: I hope to be done with this today |
| 14:55 | <moegreen> | nziarek: Then I might do mythweather or the program guide |
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| 15:14 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: and now mythfrontend doesn't display anything again |
| 15:14 | <Chutt> | nothing's changed. |
| 15:15 | <Chutt> | if changing other things on your computer fixes it, it's not my fault :p |
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| 15:18 | <Kuwanger> | Uh, should it try to commercial skip on live tv? |
| 15:19 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 15:20 | <Kuwanger> | Should it hang? :) |
| 15:20 | <Chutt> | kind of depends |
| 15:20 | <Chutt> | if you're close to the live part, it'll seem like it's hanging |
| 15:20 | <Kuwanger> | I was watching live tv. |
| 15:20 | <Kuwanger> | So, I was at the exact end, basically. |
| 15:20 | <Ndiin> | If you're trying to go backwards at the beginning it'll hang, and if you try to go forwards when near live, then yes.. |
| 15:21 | <Kuwanger> | No, I was just watching tv and then the commercial break started. And I can't escape out. |
| 15:21 | <Chutt> | turn off automatic skipping =) |
| 15:21 | <Chutt> | but if you wait for it to think the commercial is over, it should un-hang itself |
| 15:21 | <Kuwanger> | Well, that's a little hard given mythtv is stuck. :) |
| 15:22 | * Kuwanger | is waiting. |
| 15:22 | <foom> | heh yeah i saw that |
| 15:22 | <foom> | i think that should be treated as a bug |
| 15:22 | <Chutt> | it will be |
| 15:22 | <foom> | ok |
| 15:22 | <Chutt> | the commercial skipping stuff is still very new |
| 15:22 | <foom> | i just thought you were saying it was intended behavior back there. ;) |
| 15:22 | <Chutt> | feel free to fix it |
| 15:24 | <Kuwanger> | Well, it's been longer than a commercial break. |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | it doesn't know the commercial is over yet, possibly |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | still looking for more. |
| 15:25 | <Ndiin> | Might take longer because it may be creating a race condition, also.. |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | naw, should be fine |
| 15:25 | <Kuwanger> | It shouldn't be looking for more. |
| 15:26 | <Chutt> | why not? |
| 15:26 | <Kuwanger> | Because commercials don't last 7 minutes? |
| 15:27 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I should probably disable commercial skip during live tv since it can't jump around the video properly looking for blank frames. |
| 15:27 | <foom> | it can, if you're watching behind the front |
| 15:27 | <foom> | it should just never try to go forward ahead of the current head |
| 15:27 | <Kuwanger> | Btw, what happened to the layer code? |
| 15:27 | <Ndiin> | Or behind the first frame =0 |
| 15:28 | <Captain_Murdoch> | added something to my TODO list to fix the situation where you're too close to the end of the buffer in live mode. :) |
| 15:28 | <foom> | i had a weird problem with one show but haven't had it happen more than once, any ideas what could cause it? : the video recorded fine, the audio recorded fine, but it seems like the synch between the video and audio was messed up, because the video would play half-speed for about 3 seconds, then speed up and play frames really fast to catch up |
| 15:29 | <foom> | then repeat |
| 15:29 | <foom> | for pretty much the entire show |
| 15:29 | <Captain_Murdoch> | actually somethe code is in there already but there must be a bug |
| 15:29 | <Chutt> | kuwanger, layer? |
| 15:30 | <Kuwanger> | Window Layer |
| 15:30 | <Chutt> | what window layer code? |
| 15:31 | <Kuwanger> | The part I sent in so it'd set the mythtv and mythfrontend windows to fullscreen. |
| 15:31 | <Kuwanger> | Ie, layer 12. |
| 15:31 | <Chutt> | it broke stuff on other people's machines, iirc |
| 15:31 | <Chutt> | so it got taken out |
| 15:31 | <foom> | they already fullscreen aren't they? |
| 15:31 | <Bonkers> | anyone know what could possibly cause choppy video on a 1.8GHz AMD? the CPU is like at 40% when recording and it's still choppy, I've tried 2 HDDs, 2 TV cards, 2 linux distributions, one with gcc 2.95.4 and one with 3.2x, I don't know what else to try, I've got myth running perfectly on one box and I cna't get it to run on this other |
| 15:31 | <Kuwanger> | foom: No. |
| 15:32 | <foom> | they are on my box. :P |
| 15:32 | <Kuwanger> | foom: They're under my taskbar. |
| 15:32 | <Kuwanger> | Or squished. |
| 15:32 | <foom> | oh, turn off taskbar. :) |
| 15:32 | <foom> | bonkers: is harddrive DMA off? |
| 15:32 | <Kuwanger> | You can't just "turn off taskbar". |
| 15:32 | <foom> | do hdparm /dev/hdwhatever |
| 15:32 | <Bonkers> | foom: I'm fairly sure the DMA is on, I get like 30MB/s+ read from hdparm -t |
| 15:32 | <Bonkers> | is there any way to test write? |
| 15:32 | <Bonkers> | oh, and video recorded on my working setup plays fine on the broken one |
| 15:34 | <foom> | you can not run the taskbar in the first place, or you can click the minimize button |
| 15:34 | <foom> | i like being able to start xterms/etc over mythtv, personally. :) |
| 15:34 | <foom> | hm, so what's the diff between the working one and broken one? |
| 15:35 | <Bonkers> | I have no idea |
| 15:35 | <foom> | same hardware? |
| 15:35 | <Bonkers> | no |
| 15:35 | <Kuwanger> | Well, that was sad.. |
| 15:35 | <Bonkers> | working = AMD dual proc mobo w/ GeForce3, broken = SiS single proc mobo w/ GeForce2 |
| 15:36 | <Bonkers> | both should have quite enough CPU for the job, the broken never hits more than 60% CPU even while watching live tv |
| 15:36 | <Kuwanger> | What does "MaxBufferFill" really mean? |
| 15:37 | <foom> | hm, what kernel version/versions? |
| 15:37 | <Chutt> | that's explained in the help text in setup |
| 15:37 | <Kuwanger> | Vaguely. |
| 15:37 | <Bonkers> | working = 2.4.19, broken = 2.4.20, haven't tried 2.5 on the broken yet |
| 15:37 | <Bonkers> | actually working is working on 2.5.60 and 2.4.19 |
| 15:37 | <Kuwanger> | I don't understand it, though. |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | it's the minimum amount of free space in the ringbuffer before it'll force an unpause |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | in MB |
| 15:38 | <Kuwanger> | Why MB? |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | why not? |
| 15:38 | <foom> | that's how hard drive space is measured. :P |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | it doesn't need to be a large amount |
| 15:39 | <Kuwanger> | Well, for one thing you have a scale of 0 to 100.. |
| 15:39 | <Kuwanger> | For second, why does it say "How full the Live TV buffer is allowed to grow"? That sounds like it's the amount of usage allowed, not the amount of free space left. |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | full, not large |
| 15:41 | <Kuwanger> | Half full or half empty. |
| 15:41 | <Kuwanger> | ? |
| 15:41 | <Bonkers> | twice as big as it needs to be |
| 15:41 | * Kuwanger | doesn't understand why you'd have a 5GB Live TV buffer and only use 5GB-100MB for live tv. |
| 15:42 | <foom> | hm bonkers: what kind of choppy does it get? |
| 15:42 | <Chutt> | because you don't want bad things to happen when you have it paused for hours |
| 15:42 | <Bonkers> | foom: at first glance it may look smooth, but at closer inspection and long watching it's clearly not as fluid as live TV, you can see it very badly jumping when the camera pans slowly |
| 15:43 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: Huh? |
| 15:43 | <Chutt> | bonkers, compare refresh rates in x? |
| 15:43 | <Bonkers> | Chutt: a file from my good box plays perfectly on the bad box |
| 15:43 | <Bonkers> | this is why I'm so confused and at a loss |
| 15:43 | <thor> | Chutt, are the mailing lists down? |
| 15:43 | <Bonkers> | my next step is going to be profiling all the code I think |
| 15:43 | <Chutt> | thor, not that i'm aware of |
| 15:43 | <foom> | no they're working fine |
| 15:44 | <foom> | i just posted to one |
| 15:44 | <thor> | Hmmm ... any cvs commits to mythmusic in the last 2 days? |
| 15:44 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: If you have it paused for hours, your only concern is writing over the start of the ring buffer. And that's a matter of the *encoder* knowing how much space it needs to continue encoding and hence begin playing again without stomping over the existing ringbuffer. |
| 15:44 | <foom> | bonkers: maybe the sound synch card? |
| 15:44 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 15:44 | <foom> | er, synch with the sound card, i meant to say |
| 15:44 | <thor> | I mean from other than me |
| 15:45 | <Chutt> | not that i'm aware of |
| 15:45 | <foom> | bonkers: are you running ALSA? |
| 15:45 | <Bonkers> | foom: both SB Live! cards using emu10k1 alsa, although they are slightly different models, in late may I'll be home and I can try my card in that machine |
| 15:45 | <Chutt> | kuwanger, err, and that setting is telling the encoder how much space to keep "free" |
| 15:45 | <foom> | hrm |
| 15:45 | <thor> | hmmm kmail stops working after 3 weeks? |
| 15:45 | <Bonkers> | I'm at school in NY and this box is back in MA so it's not too easy to swap hardware |
| 15:46 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: Which me the user has to guess at? :) |
| 15:46 | <Bonkers> | working = NY and broken = MA |
| 15:46 | <Chutt> | you don't have to change it |
| 15:46 | <Kuwanger> | I do since I don't use a GB buffer. |
| 15:47 | <Chutt> | how's that change anything? |
| 15:47 | <foom> | i never even noticed that setting. :P |
| 15:48 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: 100MB free space with a 5MB == weird things |
| 15:48 | <Kuwanger> | err, 5MB livetv ring buffer |
| 15:48 | <Chutt> | wouldn't you rather use xawtv or tvtime instead of that? |
| 15:49 | <Kuwanger> | Hmm? |
| 15:49 | <Chutt> | since a 5MB live tv buffer is essentially useless |
| 15:49 | <Kuwanger> | I don't watch live tv, normally. |
| 15:49 | <Kuwanger> | So, it's a non-issue really. |
| 15:49 | <Kuwanger> | live tv just happens to be a reasonable way to see how myth is working at the moment. |
| 15:49 | <Chutt> | thor, i _will_ be making a mod to mythmusic soon, though |
| 15:51 | <Chutt> | nothin major, of course |
| 15:51 | <Kuwanger> | Well, it still fails with 20MB ringbuffer, 1MB free space. :/ |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | 20MB fills up in pretty much no time at all |
| 15:53 | <Kuwanger> | It shouldn't at all. |
| 15:53 | <Kuwanger> | I'm not pausing. |
| 15:53 | <Chutt> | sure it should |
| 15:54 | <Chutt> | but anyway |
| 15:54 | <Chutt> | you're giving it illegal values for sizes |
| 15:54 | <Kuwanger> | illegal in..? |
| 15:54 | <Chutt> | so i really don't care what it does =) |
| 15:54 | <foom> | it fills up the buffer always, of course, since it lets you rewind |
| 15:54 | <Chutt> | if it's not selectable by the UI, it's illegal |
| 15:55 | <Kuwanger> | foom: It shouldn't reach a "forced unpause" state. |
| 15:55 | <Ndiin> | Kuwanger: the point is that its *always* recording to that ringbuffer. |
| 15:55 | <Kuwanger> | Ndiin: Fine, it is. The point from current to head is near 0, however. |
| 15:57 | * Kuwanger | will just reset the encoding bitrate to a rate to see if this same problem exists in "legal" values. |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | the ui only allows the user to select good values |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | if you go beyond that, you're on your own with whatever happens |
| 15:59 | <Kuwanger> | Looks liked I'd have to run this for at least 23 minutes to see any problems.. |
| 16:00 | * Kuwanger | will see if he can pull that off, then. |
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| 16:00 | <thor> | Chutt, commits ... you might want to verbally abuse me for using a QThread |
| 16:00 | -!- | Chutt has changed the topic to: http://www.mythtv.org/ |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | whatever you used is fine |
| 16:01 | <thor> | Try mythmusic with some CDs ... very cool |
| 16:01 | <Chutt> | i'm going to be adding some versioning symbols to the lib |
| 16:02 | <Chutt> | and bumping up the soname to 0.9 |
| 16:02 | <thor> | If you're looking at mythmusic, you can segfault it by just holding the down key in the playback screen (takes a while) |
| 16:16 | <Kuwanger> | 17 minutes.. |
| 16:16 | * Kuwanger | crosses his fingers. :) |
| 16:17 | <Chutt> | thor, can you put the cd item back below the all music item? |
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| 16:21 | <Chutt> | how often does it poll? |
| 16:21 | <thor> | 10 seconds |
| 16:21 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 16:22 | <Chutt> | looks good to me =) |
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| 16:23 | <thor> | CD item is back down |
| 16:23 | <Chutt> | thanks |
| 16:24 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: I think I'd call the ScheduleRecordings page a change, btw |
| 16:24 | <Chutt> | hm/ |
| 16:24 | <Chutt> | err, hm? |
| 16:24 | <thor> | hm? |
| 16:25 | <PeteCool> | you said there weren't any changes, but... there were. I'm recompiling X + drivers atm, this might help. Or not (not saying those are the root of the problem though... I didn't even look at the changeset yet) |
| 16:26 | <PeteCool> | going now though |
| 16:26 | <Chutt> | there hasn't been anything major |
| 16:26 | <thor> | What as that hm? |
| 16:26 | <Chutt> | thor, to petecool |
| 16:26 | <Chutt> | there, lib versioning is in |
| 16:27 | <Chutt> | make distclean everywhere =) |
| 16:33 | <Chutt> | i'm holding down in the playback screen |
| 16:33 | <Chutt> | no problems yet =) |
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| 16:36 | <moegreen> | 1 |
| 16:36 | <moegreen> | heh, oops |
| 16:39 | <Kuwanger> | odd.. |
| 16:40 | <thor> | Chutt, with keyboard accelerators on |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | thor, yeah, i turned them on |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | held it down for a few minutes, nothing bad happened |
| 16:40 | <thor> | hmmm ... it must be LCD stuff then |
| 16:40 | <Ndiin> | it only happens occasionally I've noticed.. and it never wants to happen when I run it in gdb |
| 16:41 | <thor> | back trace when it does it is always way down in libvorbisfile |
| 16:41 | <Kuwanger> | Oh well. |
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| 16:44 | <foom> | heh i just tried closedcaption for the first time, the font is like 12pt or something (invisibly small), where's that set? |
| 16:58 | <sc00p> | would a dual P2-333 box with 256 mb of ram be sufficient for a frontend box? |
| 16:59 | <foom> | i suspect it would |
| 16:59 | <foom> | decoding mpeg4 takes nearly no CPU usage |
| 17:00 | <foom> | i don't think the dual gets you anything though |
| 17:00 | <Ndiin> | foom: er, well.. my celeron 466 takes nearly full cpu to decode mpeg4.. |
| 17:00 | <Ndiin> | which is my frontend box |
| 17:00 | <foom> | hrm |
| 17:00 | <Ndiin> | It actually drops frames. |
| 17:01 | <foom> | it takes 0.3%-.7% cpu on my athlon 1800+ |
| 17:02 | <thor> | foom, Matrox? |
| 17:02 | <foom> | no, mpeg4 software decoding |
| 17:03 | <foom> | with Xv scaling |
| 17:03 | <Ndiin> | thor: hmm, newest mythmusic: Under all music, there is a blank entry, with the actual contents of all music below it |
| 17:04 | <thor> | huh? |
| 17:04 | <Ndiin> | All the actual entries are being put under a blank-named parent node |
| 17:05 | <Ndiin> | with "directory" as the tree structure |
| 17:06 | <thor> | It depends on your directory structure (I think) ... mine works fine if I switch to Directory |
| 17:07 | <thor> | I completely rewrote all of it, so maybe I didn't do what was originally intended (?) |
| 17:07 | <Ndiin> | well, all I have is: /usr2/mp3, under that is one directory for each album |
| 17:07 | <Ndiin> | no subdirs (besides albums with multiple cds) |
| 17:07 | <Ndiin> | Let me do a quick screenshot. one sec. |
| 17:08 | <thor> | But it's fast, right :-) |
| 17:08 | <Ndiin> | yeah =) |
| 17:09 | <Ndiin> | http://members.cox.net/~ndiin1/mythmusic.png |
| 17:09 | <thor> | hmmm |
| 17:10 | <thor> | is your startdir value "/usr2" or "/usr2/mp3" |
| 17:10 | <Ndiin> | usr2/mp3 |
| 17:10 | <thor> | hmmmm |
| 17:10 | <thor> | this is a good one |
| 17:10 | <thor> | try /usr2/mp3/ (with the extra slash) |
| 17:11 | <moegreen> | could be a nice box: http://www.iwillusa.com/products/ProductDetail.asp?vID=154&CID=172 |
| 17:11 | <Ndiin> | That worked. |
| 17:11 | <foom> | reviews of iwill boxes i saw said shuttle were better |
| 17:12 | <thor> | hmmm ... now to figure out why it's doing that .... and fix .... weird |
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| 17:13 | <thor> | Ndiin, in the meantime, try poping in and out a few CDs (while in Select Music) ... I'm just so damn proud of that |
| 17:13 | <Ndiin> | hehe, |
| 17:13 | <Ndiin> | just found a bug though.. |
| 17:13 | <Ndiin> | gonna try to reproduce it |
| 17:13 | <Ndiin> | one sec |
| 17:13 | <Ndiin> | yep |
| 17:14 | <thor> | bb 2 minutes |
| 17:14 | <Ndiin> | thor: in playback mode, goto edit playlist, then hit esc |
| 17:14 | <Ndiin> | and *boom* |
| 17:15 | <Ndiin> | The response on movement in edit playlist (during playback) is sluggish as well |
| 17:15 | * Ndiin | compiles for debug |
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| 17:19 | <thor> | oh crap |
| 17:20 | <Ndiin> | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 17:20 | <Ndiin> | [Switching to Thread 49156 (LWP 7195)][Switching to Thread 49156 (LWP 7195)] |
| 17:20 | <Ndiin> | 0x0807d137 in QValueList<Metadata>::clear() (this=0x4054956b) at /usr/qt/3/include/qvaluelist.h:595 |
| 17:20 | <Ndiin> | 595 if ( sh->count == 1 ) sh->clear(); else { sh->deref(); sh = new QValueListPrivate<T>; } |
| 17:20 | <Ndiin> | (gdb) bt |
| 17:20 | <Ndiin> | #0 0x0807d137 in QValueList<Metadata>::clear() (this=0x4054956b) |
| 17:20 | <Ndiin> | at /usr/qt/3/include/qvaluelist.h:595 |
| 17:20 | <Ndiin> | #1 0x0807b758 in AllMusic::clearCDData() (this=0x4054951f) at metadata.cpp:634 |
| 17:20 | <Ndiin> | #2 0x08065ae2 in DatabaseBox::nukeCD() (this=0xbfffe2f0) at databasebox.cpp:693 |
| 17:20 | <Ndiin> | #3 0x08065d85 in ReadCDThread::run() (this=0x85f26c0) at databasebox.cpp:735 |
| 17:20 | <Ndiin> | #4 0x4058dab8 in start_thread () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| 17:20 | <thor> | threads |
| 17:21 | <thor> | see Chutt, I have no idea what I'm doing |
| 17:21 | <Ndiin> | hehe |
| 17:22 | <Ndiin> | I think its because the thread is trying to access the parent after the parent is killed |
| 17:23 | <thor> | possibly ... hang on ... checking a couple of things |
| 17:24 | <Ndiin> | Thats exactly what it is.. |
| 17:24 | <Ndiin> | 595 if ( sh->count == 1 ) sh->clear(); else { sh->deref(); sh = new QValueListPrivate<T>; } |
| 17:24 | <Ndiin> | (gdb) p sh |
| 17:24 | <Ndiin> | $3 = (QValueListPrivate<Metadata> *) 0xe8240489 |
| 17:24 | <Ndiin> | (gdb) p sh->count |
| 17:24 | <Ndiin> | Cannot access memory at address 0xe8240489 |
| 17:26 | <sc00p> | when I try to compile mythmusic with --enable-sdl, I get flac errors at the point where (I think) it tries to link everything together. Anyone seen this before? |
| 17:27 | <Ndiin> | What version of flac? |
| 17:28 | <sc00p> | I've tried both 1.0.4 and 1.1.0 |
| 17:28 | <Ndiin> | hmm |
| 17:28 | <sc00p> | currently 1.0.4 |
| 17:30 | <sc00p> | I'm not using QT 3.1, which I know is strongly recommended |
| 17:31 | <Ndiin> | What are the errors, anyhow? |
| 17:32 | <sc00p> | a bunch of stuff that looks like this... this being the first: |
| 17:33 | <sc00p> | flacdecoder.o(.text+0x618): In function `FlacDecoder::initialize(void)': |
| 17:33 | <sc00p> | : undefined reference to `FLAC__seekable_stream_decoder_process_until_end_of_metadata' |
| 17:33 | <sc00p> | flacdecoder.o(.text+0x618): In function `FlacDecoder::initialize(void)': |
| 17:33 | <sc00p> | : undefined reference to `FLAC__seekable_stream_decoder_process_until_end_of_metadata' |
| 17:33 | <sc00p> | flacdecoder.o(.text+0x618): In function `FlacDecoder::initialize(void)': |
| 17:33 | <sc00p> | : undefined reference to `FLAC__seekable_stream_decoder_process_until_end_of_metadata' |
| 17:33 | <sc00p> | flacdecoder.o(.text+0x618): In function `FlacDecoder::initialize(void)': |
| 17:33 | <sc00p> | : undefined reference to `FLAC__seekable_stream_decoder_process_until_end_of_metadata' |
| 17:33 | <sc00p> | flacdecoder.o(.text+0x618): In function `FlacDecoder::initialize(void)': |
| 17:33 | <sc00p> | : undefined reference to `FLAC__seekable_stream_decoder_process_until_end_of_metadata' |
| 17:33 | <sc00p> | flacdecoder.o(.text+0x618): In function `FlacDecoder::initialize(void)': |
| 17:33 | <sc00p> | sorry |
| 17:34 | <mdz> | it works fine with flac 1.0.4 |
| 17:34 | <Ndiin> | works fine with 1.1.0, as well |
| 17:34 | <mdz> | at least, 0.8 did |
| 17:34 | <mdz> | are you building 0.8 or something from CVS? |
| 17:35 | <Ndiin> | Thats a problem with an old flac lib, though.. |
| 17:35 | <sc00p> | it's never worked for me since the new options went into mythmusic, updating cvs every so often |
| 17:36 | <sc00p> | it only craps out when I --enable-sdl |
| 17:36 | <Ndiin> | Is sdl linked to an old version of flac thats no longer installed? |
| 17:36 | <sc00p> | I dunno, maybe... I'm using the debian sdl packages |
| 17:37 | <Ndiin> | run ldd on it |
| 17:37 | <sc00p> | ok, what does that mean? =) |
| 17:37 | <sc00p> | run ldd on flac or sdl? |
| 17:38 | <Ndiin> | it means, run: ldd /path/to/libSDL.so |
| 17:39 | <Ndiin> | I dont see any interdependencies between the two at all, personally.. |
| 17:39 | <sc00p> | ok, should I see something about flac in this output? |
| 17:39 | <Ndiin> | I don't. |
| 17:39 | <sc00p> | neither do I.. what am I looking for? |
| 17:39 | <Ndiin> | If its not there, thats not the problem |
| 17:40 | <sc00p> | ok, it's not |
| 17:41 | <Ndiin> | are you absolutely positive you have no extra libFLAC.so's running around? |
| 17:41 | <PeteCool> | stupid X that won't work!!! AAARGH |
| 17:42 | <sc00p> | ack, that's probably it |
| 17:43 | <sc00p> | I've got some flac deb packages installed, let me get rid of those and try again |
| 17:47 | <PeteCool> | wow, I was able to get to mythfrontend |
| 17:48 | <PeteCool> | it then crashed in the epg |
| 17:48 | <PeteCool> | that's a start... |
| 17:48 | <sc00p> | Ndiin: thanks for your help, that compiled successfully... and I learned something too |
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| 18:06 | <Ndiin> | thor: That's not really a fix.. you can crash it just the same if you exit out of Select Music before the thread finishes as well |
| 18:06 | <Ndiin> | but it'll do, I suppose |
| 18:06 | <Ndiin> | hehe |
| 18:06 | <thor> | sort of a panic fix, till I can figure out the right way to fix it |
| 18:07 | <Ndiin> | I haven't dealt with threading in C++ at all.. so I'm of little use =( |
| 18:07 | <thor> | me either |
| 18:07 | <Ndiin> | but basicly you just need a way to tell the child to die |
| 18:08 | <Ndiin> | *or* |
| 18:08 | <Ndiin> | make the exit wait() on the child |
| 18:08 | <thor> | tried that |
| 18:08 | <thor> | just waiting ....... |
| 18:08 | <Ndiin> | hmm |
| 18:08 | <thor> | I'm doing something really wrong somewhere ... I'll find it |
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| 18:28 | <Chutt> | thor, what you want to do is have a variable in the readcdthread class that tells it when to exit |
| 18:28 | <Chutt> | then you set that to true when you're exiting the databasebox |
| 18:28 | <Chutt> | and wait on it then |
| 18:28 | <Chutt> | i think |
| 18:29 | <Chutt> | but, hrm |
| 18:29 | <Chutt> | oh |
| 18:29 | <Chutt> | if you're waiting on it |
| 18:30 | <thor> | Not in CVS code, but when I wait on it ... it just waits |
| 18:30 | <Chutt> | never mind that about the exit var |
| 18:30 | <Chutt> | qApp->unlock(), then wait on it |
| 18:30 | <thor> | AHHHHH |
| 18:30 | <Chutt> | destructor has the application lock |
| 18:30 | <thor> | I just solved this another way |
| 18:30 | <Chutt> | i'd kill off the timer before you did that, as well |
| 18:31 | <thor> | Do no qApp->lock() (don't call any Qt code instead) |
| 18:31 | <Chutt> | how's it updating things, then? |
| 18:31 | <thor> | off the timer |
| 18:32 | <thor> | (one cycle behind) |
| 18:32 | <Chutt> | isn't it easier to just use the locks? =) |
| 18:32 | <thor> | might be, but I don't really know what I'm doing |
| 18:33 | <foom> | heh it's always easier to not have threads if you have the choice |
| 18:33 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 18:33 | <thor> | want snappy UI |
| 18:33 | <Chutt> | it's not |
| 18:34 | <Chutt> | once you're comfortable with threads, they're generally easier to work with |
| 18:35 | <foom> | i consider myself comfortable with threads, but i know i'll never get all the locking stuff right, so in apps i write i usually do time-consuming stuff (e.g. blocking IO on threads that simply queue up the results on a main thread's list of things to do |
| 18:35 | <thor> | So ... I've got it fixed by calling no Qt code ... do you want me to redo it as qApp->unlock() in the DatabaseBox destructor |
| 18:35 | <foom> | that way i only have to worry about locking the one list of things to do, and nothing else in the app |
| 18:35 | <Chutt> | thor, however you want |
| 18:37 | <PeteCool> | I'd need a dummy X client (to be the exec'd client in my xinit script) what could I use? |
| 18:38 | <lydickaw> | to hold the xserver open? |
| 18:38 | <PeteCool> | lydickaw: yep |
| 18:39 | <lydickaw> | hmmm |
| 18:39 | <PeteCool> | so I can kill mythfrontend without killing X |
| 18:39 | <lydickaw> | oh, that makes sense. |
| 18:39 | <lydickaw> | does gtk make a connection to X when you call gtk_init() |
| 18:39 | <lydickaw> | without creating a window? |
| 18:39 | <PeteCool> | or I could exec the WM instead of mythfrontend |
| 18:39 | <lydickaw> | you could create a simple app |
| 18:39 | <lydickaw> | true. just use something light. |
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| 18:43 | <PeteCool> | most of the time when I start X it doesn't want to display anything, the screen stays dark (with nvidia latest drivers)... does it do that to you Chutt? |
| 18:43 | <lydickaw> | can anyone recommend a card with IR support + mjpeg encoding. if I have a fast enough (celeron 1.7ghz / p4-based) processor, am I better off just encoding raw -> mpeg4 in software? |
| 18:44 | <PeteCool> | lydickaw: you don't need mjpeg at all |
| 18:44 | <PeteCool> | lydickaw: also, it seems the boards which include IR receivers and remotes, those receivers and remotes suck |
| 18:44 | <lydickaw> | better to get a seperate ir dongle? |
| 18:45 | <PeteCool> | lydickaw: you cpu is fast enough... though the p4-celeron ins't fast for a p4-based cpu |
| 18:45 | <lydickaw> | if I get one, can it use it for input and controlling my (@#*$@($ cable box? |
| 18:45 | <PeteCool> | lydickaw: then you'd need an "IR Blaster" |
| 18:45 | <PeteCool> | lirc.org lists some vendors |
| 18:45 | <lydickaw> | k, i was reading docs on that earlier. |
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| 18:47 | <lydickaw> | are there benchmarks on required processor for certain tasks? |
| 18:47 | <lydickaw> | (for mythtv or ffmpeg, i suppose, since the mpeg4 encoder is derived from that) |
| 18:47 | <PeteCool> | lydickaw: there are some numbers in the docs somewhere |
| 18:47 | <PeteCool> | lydickaw: I'm doing 320x480 with High-Quality Mpeg4 on a Celeron 1.1ghz |
| 18:47 | <lydickaw> | will the quality suck if I store as HQ mjpeg and convert it to mpeg4 later? or is too much lost in the encodings. |
| 18:48 | <lydickaw> | that seems pretty reasonable. |
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| 18:48 | <PeteCool> | I think the mjpeg capture cards are limited to 320x240 |
| 18:48 | <lydickaw> | I have the chance to build the machine from scratch, so I wanted to pick the best (or at least easiest to work with) set of components. |
| 18:49 | <lydickaw> | ahhhh. |
| 18:49 | <PeteCool> | lydickaw: I'd get the slowest possible athlon xp, not a p4-celeron |
| 18:50 | <lydickaw> | had anyone tried getting the tv-out working on the barebones shuttle machines? |
| 18:50 | <lydickaw> | I assume not. |
| 18:50 | <PeteCool> | lydickaw: the p4-celeron is the crappiest intel cpu since... a long time. If you haven't bought it, please don't |
| 18:50 | <PeteCool> | lydickaw: a p4-1.6A would be faster |
| 18:51 | <lydickaw> | heh. I'll look into the athlon xp instead. the mb+case I wanted for it was cheaper anyway. |
| 18:52 | <PeteCool> | lydickaw: some people were able to get the tv-out to work on the shuttles sk41g and ss40g |
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