| 00:00 | <Bonkers> | I bought my tv card at least 2 years ago for only $40 |
| 00:00 | <Bonkers> | it's mono and no btaudio |
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| 00:12 | <shad> | word to the wise: Never try to rewrite a bios. :) |
| 00:13 | <Ndiin> | Oh, but I find its a good way to relax... |
| 00:13 | <Ndiin> | but if you're too relaxed, it helps make you crazy, too. |
| 00:14 | <thor> | Ndiin, paths=directory should be right-side up in CVS now |
| 00:15 | <Ndiin> | Thanks, ill test it in a bit |
| 00:18 | <Ndiin> | brb |
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| 00:31 | <Ndiin> | gradient vs image seems about the same to me now (with new nvidia drivers) |
| 00:34 | <Ndiin> | thor: looks good. thanks |
| 00:34 | <thor> | Faster soon |
| 00:35 | <Ndiin> | Faster is good =) |
| 00:42 | <inman> | the reason (i) use if ( <constant> == <expression>) is to avoid the if (x = 1) bug. that's the only reason i've ever heard for this practice, and gcc has been issuing warnings for if(x=1) versus if((x=1)) for several years now. |
| 00:43 | <Ndiin> | = versus == is one typo I have never made |
| 00:44 | <inman> | nor i, but i make liberal use of -Wall and constant==expression. :-) |
| 00:44 | <Ndiin> | -Wall is good, but constant==expr is just weird. |
| 00:44 | <inman> | "deep C secrets" says it's a confirmed $10,000,000 bug. |
| 00:45 | <inman> | anyway, what's weird about it? |
| 00:45 | <Ndiin> | Well, it makes semantic and logical sense. It just reads strangely. |
| 00:46 | <inman> | it's the kind of style cue that i try to leave out of my myth code, yeah. |
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| 01:14 | <thor> | Chutt, you up? |
| 01:18 | <thor> | Chutt, for tomorrow then: in MythProgressDialog::setProgress() I think you want the modulo the other way around, no? |
| 01:21 | <thor> | Chutt, never mind (/ 1000) ... sleep |
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| 02:09 | <nyquiljer> | i just installed 0.8 on slackware and am having some serious problems |
| 02:10 | <nyquiljer> | when i select watch live tv, it reboots the box |
| 02:10 | <nyquiljer> | and if i select any other menu item, mythfrontend locks up |
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| 08:48 | <nziarek_> | yay! i upgraded to mandrake 9.1, and now all of my fonts are antialiased and much larger; the menu text fils the box and dead in the center...sorry, but this has been my biggest pet peeve and I am kinda giddy :) |
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| 12:04 | <orangey> | hey guys! |
| 12:04 | <orangey> | a question about the OSD: Can multiple fonts be assigned from the osd.xml? |
| 12:05 | <nziarek> | don't know about different font-styles, but different font-sizes are either currently able or will be (from what I know) |
| 12:05 | <orangey> | nate! |
| 12:05 | <orangey> | they are.. I'm flipping through the OSD.. |
| 12:05 | <orangey> | but I want the different faces : ) |
| 12:06 | <nziarek> | ah, well, request it, see what they say :)...or, if you know how to do it yourself :) |
| 12:06 | <orangey> | you mean a single line followed by a smilie said in random IRC conversation doesn't qualify as a request?? |
| 12:07 | <nziarek> | actually, that does seem to work more often than not =) |
| 12:08 | <nziarek> | can i ask why you want different faces? |
| 12:08 | <orangey> | http://tarek.2y.net/myth/osd-mock2.png |
| 12:08 | <orangey> | I plan on changing this particular look. I think the greenquatchosd dealie has a great model in the "floating" osd.. |
| 12:09 | <orangey> | but I still would like to accomplish the same sort of font/colour/size distribution |
| 12:09 | <nziarek> | looks nice - i have to ask, is it inspired by snapstream? |
| 12:10 | <orangey> | is the new snapstream out? |
| 12:10 | <orangey> | Actually, it's more like that dreamix dealie |
| 12:10 | <orangey> | you'll note that the chick is from alias.. |
| 12:10 | <orangey> | it was a jab at how they had their screenshot setup : ) |
| 12:10 | <nziarek> | ;0 |
| 12:11 | <orangey> | but I do plan on making it floatie, since I am a fan of how gQOSD was setup |
| 12:11 | <nziarek> | well, I am going to have to start giving some huge thought to this OSD if I want iulius to compete :) these new mockups are great |
| 12:11 | <nziarek> | i don't think i've ever seen gQ OSD...is it part of the theme? |
| 12:11 | <orangey> | and I also have to go through sasquatch and update it.. |
| 12:11 | <orangey> | it has nothing to do with me.. |
| 12:12 | <orangey> | and I don't even think it has anything to do with the guy who made greenquatch.. |
| 12:12 | <nziarek> | oh ;) |
| 12:12 | <orangey> | it's just a guy who was inspired : ) |
| 12:12 | <orangey> | hehe. I love the "competition" |
| 12:12 | <orangey> | my family prefers iulius |
| 12:12 | <orangey> | it hurts |
| 12:12 | <nziarek> | i'm sorry. i am updating it now, so maybe everyone will hate it later :) |
| 12:13 | <orangey> | hahahaha! : ) |
| 12:13 | <orangey> | seriously, though, I realize that the look is what's going to really draw people into myth.. |
| 12:13 | <nziarek> | absolutely. |
| 12:14 | <orangey> | and your work on usability is freaking beautiful! |
| 12:14 | <nziarek> | i really do try to spend a lot of time thinking about the look and the layout of things to make them as easy as possible |
| 12:14 | <orangey> | the popups don't really draw very quickly for me (I work at a rez of 1280x1024), but I think it's all about the potential : ) |
| 12:15 | <nziarek> | at 800x600 they draw to wuick for me either |
| 12:15 | <nziarek> | they don't draw too quick |
| 12:15 | <orangey> | aah. |
| 12:15 | <nziarek> | is what that sentence resembling thing was supposed to say |
| 12:15 | <orangey> | hahaha |
| 12:17 | <nziarek> | so, any usability ideas for mythMusic. i decidely hate my current mockup :P |
| 12:17 | <orangey> | where's the current mockup? I don't remember. |
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| 12:18 | <nziarek> | www.ziarek.com/mythtv/liquid-to-iulius.asp |
| 12:18 | <nziarek> | about half way down |
| 12:20 | <orangey> | hahah!~ I love your mythweather mock! |
| 12:20 | <nziarek> | the snapstream screenshot I was talking about is here: http://www.snapstream.com/news/updates/fullscreen/66/fullscreen2.jpg |
| 12:20 | <nziarek> | i am going to use the SS screen as inspiration; i think it is really clean. |
| 12:20 | <orangey> | oh yeah!!! I drew inspiration from that one, certainly! |
| 12:20 | <nziarek> | yeah, i like the MythWeather ones, the rest are kind of blah |
| 12:21 | <orangey> | have you ever heard of the toilet fly? |
| 12:21 | <rcaskey> | is there anything in particular that needs to be done to run mythtv frontend from a non mythtv user? |
| 12:21 | <nziarek> | orangey: no |
| 12:21 | <orangey> | rcaskey: What happens when you try it? |
| 12:21 | <orangey> | nziarek: It was designed by a swede. basically, it's just a fly that's put in a certain spot in urinals.. |
| 12:22 | <rcaskey> | unable to open database '' |
| 12:22 | <orangey> | what they found was that people will tend to aim for the fly, even though it's clearly printed.. |
| 12:22 | <Ndiin> | rcaskey: Make sure mysql.txt has the correct settings. |
| 12:22 | <orangey> | I think of that as an example of clean usability.. it's intuitive. it's simple.. |
| 12:22 | <nziarek> | i did here about that :) |
| 12:23 | <nziarek> | that's a good theory, acutally. |
| 12:23 | <orangey> | are we any closer to a delete confirmation page like the one you mocked? |
| 12:23 | <nziarek> | are you using cvs? |
| 12:23 | <orangey> | yeah |
| 12:23 | <orangey> | and I see that one.. but can we get the checkmarks going on and things? |
| 12:23 | <rcaskey> | hmmm, making progress |
| 12:23 | <nziarek> | i dunno :) |
| 12:23 | <rcaskey> | non myth users didn't have access to read the config file |
| 12:24 | <rcaskey> | what does the default password decrypt to? |
| 12:24 | <orangey> | default for myth? |
| 12:24 | <orangey> | mythtv |
| 12:25 | <rcaskey> | login and pass are both mythtv? |
| 12:25 | <orangey> | rcaskey: indeed |
| 12:25 | <Ndiin> | by default |
| 12:25 | <rcaskey> | maby the debian setup script is different |
| 12:25 | <Ndiin> | Just read the pass in the mysql.txt file |
| 12:25 | <Ndiin> | its plaintext |
| 12:25 | <rcaskey> | but I fear changing it for breaking future upgrades |
| 12:26 | <orangey> | rcaskey: I don't follow the problem. |
| 12:26 | <rcaskey> | not working |
| 12:26 | <rcaskey> | default pass shows as bRHegBHR |
| 12:27 | <orangey> | nziarek: the greenquatch OSD looks almost *exactly* like your OSD info screenshot |
| 12:27 | <Ndiin> | Make sure they didn't change the GRANT line on the mc.sql to setup the database initially, rcaskey |
| 12:27 | <Ndiin> | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"; |
| 12:28 | <Ndiin> | is the default |
| 12:28 | <rcaskey> | Ndiin: well I cant even login locally with that up to mysql via the client |
| 12:28 | <Ndiin> | try adding a new line for your user. |
| 12:28 | <nziarek> | orangey: you know what - ben did that, i sent him my psd's and he created the greensquatch one, since that is what he used |
| 12:28 | <Ndiin> | not unless you're logged in as mythtv with that grant line, correct |
| 12:29 | <orangey> | nziarek: Well, that explains tonnes |
| 12:29 | <Ndiin> | change it: TO joeschmoe@netmask |
| 12:29 | <Ndiin> | etc |
| 12:29 | <rcaskey> | wait |
| 12:29 | <rcaskey> | aha |
| 12:29 | <rcaskey> | mythtv-setup is not using the settings in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| 12:29 | <nziarek> | orangey: must be a slow morning...i sould have remembered that when we first started talking :) |
| 12:29 | <orangey> | alright, I'm gonna reboot to win so I can play with photoshop : ) |
| 12:30 | <orangey> | but first, must get real work done!! I have a letter to write.. see you guys soon! |
| 12:30 | <nziarek> | see ya |
| 12:31 | <nziarek> | i want to see some mockups by 5! |
| 12:31 | <nziarek> | =) |
| 12:32 | <mdz_> | rcaskey: if you're using the debs, the README explains exactly what you're asking |
| 12:32 | <mdz_> | and it generates a random password instead of using "mythtv" |
| 12:33 | <rcaskey> | mdz: hmm... |
| 12:41 | * rcaskey | hrm hrms... |
| 12:41 | <rcaskey> | it just seems wrong that a client app needs to belong to a certain group like that |
| 12:43 | <orangey> | nziarek: hahahah! : ) |
| 12:43 | <mdz_> | rcaskey: no, it really doesn't |
| 12:44 | <mdz_> | that group has read/write permission on the database |
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| 12:45 | <rcaskey> | mdz: what about with remote database? |
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| 13:10 | <wigginjs> | I get this when I run setup. QSqlDatabase warning: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| 13:10 | <wigginjs> | any idea what I've broken? |
| 13:11 | <moegreen> | wigginjs: you need to install the qt-mysql driver, your distro probably has a package for it |
| 13:13 | <wigginjs> | moegreen: thanks a pant-load man, it works now |
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| 13:15 | <PeteCool> | dammit, doesn't anybody read the docs? |
| 13:15 | <PeteCool> | most of the questions for the last few days were for that damn mysql driver |
| 13:16 | <inman> | it's funny, the parts that people stumble on never hit me when i setup myth. |
| 13:22 | <inman> | i have had a lot of problems with qt bugs, my wm, and mysql optimization, though. |
| 13:23 | <inman> | i really think there should be requirements for qt/mysql. |
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| 13:25 | <PeteCool> | inman: with which versions? |
| 13:25 | <inman> | 3.0.5 and 3.23.54a |
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| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | the lcd code doesn't compile for me: |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -g -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" -DMMX -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/qt/3/include -I/usr/qt/3/mkspecs/linux-g++ -o lcddevice.o lcddevice.cpp |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | lcddevice.cpp:719: default argument given for parameter 1 of `void |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | LCD::switchToChannel(QString = "", QString = "", QString = "")' |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | lcddevice.h:87: after previous specification in `void |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | LCD::switchToChannel(QString = "", QString = "", QString = "")' |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | lcddevice.cpp:719: default argument given for parameter 2 of `void |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | LCD::switchToChannel(QString = "", QString = "", QString = "")' |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | lcddevice.h:87: after previous specification in `void |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | LCD::switchToChannel(QString = "", QString = "", QString = "")' |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | lcddevice.cpp:719: default argument given for parameter 3 of `void |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | LCD::switchToChannel(QString = "", QString = "", QString = "")' |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | lcddevice.h:87: after previous specification in `void |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | LCD::switchToChannel(QString = "", QString = "", QString = "")' |
| 13:55 | <PeteCool> | make[2]: *** [lcddevice.o] Error 1 |
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| 14:35 | <Ndiin> | PeteCool: Just take out the defaults from one set of declarations |
| 14:36 | <Ndiin> | they should only be in one place, not both, is all |
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| 14:51 | <david_> | hi i get the following error on debian unstable with the mythtv packages |
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| 14:53 | <davehunnn> | mythfilldatabase: relocation error: /usr/lib/libmyth-0.8.so.0: undefined symbol: gContext |
| 14:54 | <davehunnn> | what does it mean how can i fix it ? |
| 14:54 | <thor> | You have an *old* libmyth lying around somewhere |
| 14:55 | <Chutt> | thor, hey, you going to remove those default args from lcddevice.cpp, or shall i do it real quick? |
| 14:55 | <thor> | one sec |
| 14:57 | <thor> | 'Done |
| 14:57 | <mdz_> | davehunnn: show me the output of "md5sum /usr/lib/libmyth-0.8.so.0" |
| 14:57 | <Chutt> | he's probably running an old mythfilldatabase bin from elsewhere |
| 14:58 | <davehunnn> | 1fd60ba9d826eccfdd4f9f64088fc230 /usr/lib/libmyth-0.8.so.0 |
| 14:58 | <mdz_> | yeah, that is the correct library |
| 14:58 | <mdz_> | oh right, gContext is in the various programs, not in the lib |
| 14:58 | <davehunnn> | got it had old manual version in /usr/local |
| 14:59 | <mdz_> | echo "rm -f /usr/local/bin/myth*" >> mythtv.postinst |
| 14:59 | <mdz_> | tempting |
| 14:59 | <davehunnn> | sorry :( |
| 14:59 | <mdz_> | maybe I should have it print a warning if it finds that kind of thing |
| 14:59 | <davehunnn> | i thought that as /usr/bin was in path first it would try that first |
| 15:00 | <thor> | Chutt, am almost done a much faster mythmusic that builds a metadata tree on load (Select Music is now really fast) ... am thinking about someway to try and keep the metadata and playlists in memory full time |
| 15:00 | <Chutt> | aren't they in ram full time now? |
| 15:00 | <thor> | Only when mythmusic is running |
| 15:00 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 15:00 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 15:00 | <thor> | Delay now is on myth startup |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | i wouldn't really want to keep them in ram _all_ the time |
| 15:01 | <thor> | mythmusic startup |
| 15:01 | <thor> | Frontend is in ram all the time? |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | right, but frontend is fairly small |
| 15:02 | <Chutt> | metadata and stuff will be totally dependent on the size of the user's collection |
| 15:02 | <thor> | Yup |
| 15:03 | <thor> | I sort of had visions of a backend for a while (play music off network traffic, not locally accesible volumes) ... but I dunno |
| 15:03 | <thor> | Just a thought, I'll see if it goes anywhere |
| 15:03 | <Chutt> | well, perhaps |
| 15:05 | <mdz_> | davehunnn: /usr/local/bin is first so that you can override things with local versions |
| 15:06 | <Chutt> | thor, similar error in mythcontext |
| 15:06 | <thor> | Gee I really am an idiot! Hang on |
| 15:06 | <Chutt> | just fixed it :p |
| 15:07 | <Chutt> | i already had made the change |
| 15:07 | <Chutt> | naw, g++ didn't die on that before 3.x |
| 15:07 | <thor> | ok |
| 15:09 | <mdz_> | wreaks havoc with cut and pasting declarations :-) |
| 15:09 | <Chutt> | like, i can understand why they'd want to warn about it |
| 15:09 | <Chutt> | different default args being possible and all |
| 15:09 | <Chutt> | but, it shouldn't be a fatal error if it's the same default |
| 15:09 | <mdz_> | maybe ISO specifies it |
| 15:11 | <mdz_> | hahaha |
| 15:11 | <mdz_> | google for gcc "default argument given for parameter" "after previous specification" |
| 15:11 | <mdz_> | first match |
| 15:12 | <Chutt> | heh, nice |
| 15:13 | <thor> | Top two pet peeves: warning about unused paramaters (there should be a -WallExceptStupidWarningsIAlreadyKnowAbout) and compiler not looking at else's to see if control *really* does reach end of non-void function |
| 15:13 | <mdz_> | themedmenu could use a mechanism for visual feedback when something has been selected |
| 15:14 | <mdz_> | a few things take a while to come up |
| 15:14 | <mdz_> | and I don't know whether my remote lost the button press or not |
| 15:15 | <mdz_> | how does the highlighting work? |
| 15:15 | <thor> | mdz, in an ideal world a shimmering light highlight across the button |
| 15:16 | <mdz_> | are button_on.png and button_off.png opaque or transparen? |
| 15:16 | Usage:
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| 15:16 | /KICK | <nick>, kicks the nick from the current channel (needs chanop) |
| 15:16 | <Chutt> | they're both transparent |
| 15:16 | <mdz_> | maybe I could take button_on and invert it and use it as a button_pressed |
| 15:17 | <Chutt> | quite possibly |
| 15:17 | <Chutt> | one other thing would be a click noise or whatnot |
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| 15:30 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: did you update iulius with new playbackbox png's ? |
| 15:39 | <mdz_> | I'd much rather something visual |
| 15:40 | <Chutt> | it'd be pretty easy to add a pressed image |
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| 15:54 | <billytwowilly> | can someone tell me what mythgame uses to play nes roms? |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | it uses whatever you tell it to |
| 15:58 | <billytwowilly> | oh.. ok. nifty. thanks. |
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| 16:00 | <PeteCool> | anybody looked at the ATI TV Wonder Pro? Think it uses a bttv chip? |
| 16:00 | <PeteCool> | That's why the TV Wonder wasn't listed in online vendors lately |
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| 16:12 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: http://www.ziarek.com/mythtv/iulius-osd.zip |
| 16:12 | <nziarek> | unzip and put it in your iulius theme directory |
| 16:12 | <nziarek> | (I know, badly named file, since it has nothing to do with the osd :)) |
| 16:12 | <orangey> | nziarek: Do you use gimp at all? |
| 16:13 | <nziarek> | orangey: only for a second...my Linux box is too hard to use (goofy keyboard/mouse thing) |
| 16:13 | <nziarek> | eventually I am going to dual boot to get more familiar with Linux |
| 16:14 | <orangey> | nziarek: I'm trying to get familiar with the gimp, but it's sooo hard! : ) |
| 16:14 | <orangey> | alright, will reboot to windows.. bb shortly |
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| 16:17 | <PeteCool> | Last time I tried photoshop it was much harder to use than gimp... some simple things (don't remember which though - it has been a year or two) which were buried and didn't work in ways that made sense at all |
| 16:17 | <PeteCool> | plus the png saving was ugly and bad |
| 16:17 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: well, once you get used to one, it is hard to switch |
| 16:18 | <nziarek> | Photoshop has taken leaps an bounds in the last two versions (5 to 7), but I've never used GIMP, so I can't compare. |
| 16:18 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: I was new to both at the time :) |
| 16:18 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: I used 5.0 and 5.5 |
| 16:19 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: well, then I can't wait to try it... =) i don't doubt that it could be better |
| 16:19 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: but it is hard to give up what is comfortable. |
| 16:19 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: yesterday I was trying to change the resolution in Linux, couldn't find it. Makes you think twice about switching when _everything_ is different =) |
| 16:19 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: that's why I'm still using windows + litestep... I haven't gotten kde to be as usable yet |
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| 16:22 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: found out how to do it? |
| 16:22 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: I am going to add those graphics to the overall theme as soon as they incorporate the ability to make an oversized selection bar...figured i would just mess with it once that way |
| 16:22 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: actually, I had to reinstall Mandrake (i am horror to a system) so I just changed it at the install. |
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| 16:52 | <davehunn> | i apear to have broken xmltv |
| 16:52 | <davehunn> | tv_grab_uk gives channel travel-extra.sky.com (901) not seen on site, remove from channel_ids file |
| 16:52 | <davehunn> | Undefined subroutine &XMLTV::get_attrs called at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk line 898. |
| 16:52 | <davehunn> | and dies |
| 16:52 | <davehunn> | so i can not fill the database any ideas? |
| 17:00 | <davehunn> | not well-formed (invalid token) at line 20, column 63, byte 1570 at /usr/lib/perl5/XML/Parser.pm line 185 |
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| 17:35 | <OrangeSun> | nziarek: http://tarek.2y.net/myth/osd-mock3.png |
| 17:37 | <Chutt> | text can be any shade of grey, btw |
| 17:38 | <nziarek> | orangey, OrangeSun =) : nice...i like the fact that every corner is rounded except the upper left |
| 17:39 | <Chutt> | i kind of liked your first one better |
| 17:39 | <Chutt> | osd-mock2.png |
| 17:39 | <nziarek> | here is my tester: http://www.ziarek.com/mythtv/images/liquid-to-iulius/new/iulius-osd-info.png |
| 17:39 | <OrangeSun> | nziarek: heheh : ) |
| 17:39 | <OrangeSun> | Chutt: we'll make the Chutt Variation : ) |
| 17:40 | <Chutt> | nziarek, that'd work very well |
| 17:40 | <OrangeSun> | Chutt: is it at all possible to have multiple font faces? |
| 17:40 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 17:40 | <Chutt> | just added that, actually |
| 17:40 | <nziarek> | Chutt: good, i was hoping to cut down on the complexity |
| 17:40 | <OrangeSun> | nziarek: that is beautiful |
| 17:40 | <OrangeSun> | I love how you do that thing with the sides. |
| 17:40 | <OrangeSun> | what do you use to do your work, anyhow? |
| 17:41 | <davehunn> | grr i broke tv_grab_uk |
| 17:41 | <davehunn> | not sure how |
| 17:41 | <Soopaman> | OrangeSun, that is a nice ss |
| 17:41 | <nziarek> | OrangeSun: I like that part too; i just use Photoshop and a little bit of Flash (for vector graphics) |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | so, the new osd: |
| 17:42 | <moegreen> | Chutt: what about adding a field for the show time ex: 8:00 pm - 9:00 pm |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | multiple fonts, multiple font faces |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | moegreen, on my todo list |
| 17:42 | <moegreen> | cool |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | each 'container' can have multiple image files |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | so you don't have to have one single background image |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | text can be greyscale for now |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | maybe color later, but it's difficult =) |
| 17:44 | <OrangeSun> | very cool.. |
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| 17:44 | <OrangeSun> | when is the multiple font face thing coming along? |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | it's all in cvs |
| 17:44 | <OrangeSun> | I'm like Bush. Just Black and white for me. |
| 17:44 | <OrangeSun> | Chutt: OK, how do i assign multiple fonts? |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | let's see, what else is new |
| 17:44 | <nziarek> | for the font faces, can you distriute fonts with the theme, or how do you guarentee that the user has those font styles? |
| 17:44 | <moegreen> | I guess i'll be able to finish up the playbackbox xml stuff tonight :) |
| 17:44 | <OrangeSun> | Like I want Tahoma for the title, but Arial for the description |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | just add a <filename>blah.ttf</filename> |
| 17:45 | <Chutt> | the file can be in the themedirectory |
| 17:45 | <Chutt> | or it can be where mythtv normally looks for fonts |
| 17:45 | <nziarek> | is there any legality with distributing fonts? |
| 17:45 | <OrangeSun> | which is mythtv root? |
| 17:45 | <vektor> | nziarek: Yes. |
| 17:45 | <Chutt> | nziarek, yup |
| 17:45 | <OrangeSun> | nziarek: depends on the license it was published under |
| 17:46 | <vektor> | Chutt: Btw, if you want to use pfb fonts from latex, freetype needs an associated afm file for kerning data. |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:46 | <vektor> | Chutt: oh, and your freetype code is broken wrt kerning :) |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | yea yea |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | i have kerning turned off |
| 17:46 | <vektor> | Chutt: yeah, i think i'll port my font code back into yours soon. |
| 17:47 | <vektor> | Chutt: you also have hinting turned on, which i think is likely a bad idea. |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | nziarek, orangesun, oh, fonts can be outlined and/or have drop shadows if you want |
| 17:47 | <OrangeSun> | Chutt: i was noting that.. |
| 17:47 | <OrangeSun> | are the outlines opposite of the text colour? |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 17:47 | <OrangeSun> | or can their color be specified? |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | i could make em definable if you'd want |
| 17:48 | <nziarek> | are drop shadows fuzzy or solid? |
| 17:48 | <Chutt> | solid |
| 17:48 | <nziarek> | OrangeSun: that Bush cut above was great, btw :) |
| 17:48 | <OrangeSun> | chutt: not overly high priority to me.. |
| 17:49 | <nziarek> | me either; i still haven't found a design I want to stick with for iulius |
| 17:49 | <OrangeSun> | so if I want blah.ttf as a font, I would do: <font name="test"><filename>blah.ttf</filename></font>? |
| 17:49 | <Chutt> | you need to give it a size, too |
| 17:49 | <OrangeSun> | nziarek: hehehe : ) Glad you enjoyed. |
| 17:49 | <OrangeSun> | OK.. just wondering if that's how I got the filename.. everything else falls into place : ) |
| 17:50 | <Chutt> | and a color, i think |
| 17:50 | <nziarek> | do these files go into an osd folder or into the theme folder? |
| 17:51 | <Chutt> | well, hmm |
| 17:51 | <Chutt> | i believe having an osd and a theme in the same folder should be ok |
| 17:52 | <nziarek> | i just can't remeber if you choose the osd seperately of the rest of the theme |
| 17:52 | <Chutt> | you do |
| 17:52 | <OrangeSun> | I think we should have an unwritten rule that all myth-related screenshots have to be of the simpsons |
| 17:52 | <nziarek> | OrangeSun: agreed |
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| 18:05 | <PeteCool> | OrangeSun, nziarek: nice mockups :) |
| 18:06 | <PeteCool> | OrangeSun: will you be making png's for the new play recordings screen for sasquatch soon? |
| 18:08 | <PeteCool> | OrangeSun: or maybe I could try hacking up nathan's ones |
| 18:08 | <nziarek> | I can make some for SasQuatch; what would you like different? (I can send you the photoshop files, too, if you'd like) |
| 18:09 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: well, the default ones aren't really round.... |
| 18:09 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: wait... do yours have any other colors than greysacel in? |
| 18:09 | <PeteCool> | greyscale |
| 18:10 | <nziarek> | no, i don't think so |
| 18:10 | <nziarek> | white borders, black shaded background |
| 18:10 | <PeteCool> | k |
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| 18:11 | <PeteCool> | hmm, myth crashed when trying to display the screen with SasQ... weird |
| 18:12 | <nziarek> | my master plan is coming along nicely =) |
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| 18:13 | <PeteCool> | lol |
| 18:15 | <OrangeSun> | hahahahaha |
| 18:15 | <PeteCool> | theme.xml is missing stuff |
| 18:15 | <OrangeSun> | pete: as soon as I get the OSD done.. |
| 18:16 | <PeteCool> | OrangeSun: great |
| 18:16 | <OrangeSun> | PeteCool: It is, but that shouldn't matter.. I'm adding all the new stuff in now.. and generally updating it. |
| 18:16 | <OrangeSun> | I'll send an email when it's ready.. |
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| 18:16 | <PeteCool> | the error it spits out is: Must have room for at least 1 column of buttons ?? Doesn't make sense to me |
| 18:17 | <PeteCool> | anyways |
| 18:19 | <Kuwanger> | Hello. |
| 18:19 | * Kuwanger | keeps getting QSqlDatabase warnings on startuping up mythfrontend. :/ |
| 18:21 | <moegreen> | heh, Kuwanger - what warnings? |
| 18:22 | <Kuwanger> | "QSqlDatabase warning: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| 18:22 | <Kuwanger> | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: |
| 18:22 | <Kuwanger> | QSqlDatabase warning: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| 18:22 | <Kuwanger> | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: |
| 18:22 | <Kuwanger> | couldn't open db" |
| 18:23 | <moegreen> | Kuwanger: you need to install the qt-mysql drivers, your distro probably has a package for that |
| 18:23 | <Kuwanger> | It's installed. |
| 18:23 | <Kuwanger> | It was installed. |
| 18:23 | <Kuwanger> | mythfrontend just now started doing this after I restarted it. |
| 18:24 | <moegreen> | restarted it - it being what? the process, the computer? |
| 18:24 | <Kuwanger> | mythfrontend |
| 18:25 | <moegreen> | are you running it as the same user? How did you restart it? |
| 18:25 | <Kuwanger> | I closed it (Alt + F4). |
| 18:25 | <Kuwanger> | I ran it again. |
| 18:25 | <Kuwanger> | And yes, the same user. |
| 18:26 | <moegreen> | did you restart the backend - is it giving you the same errors? |
| 18:26 | <Kuwanger> | This is/was 0.7. |
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| 18:27 | <Kuwanger> | I tried upgrading to 0.8 (seemed like a good enough excuse), but I get the same error. |
| 18:27 | <moegreen> | so you have both versions installed? |
| 18:27 | <Kuwanger> | One over the other. I just upgraded. |
| 18:27 | <Kuwanger> | I followed the inserting thing in UPGRADING. |
| 18:29 | <moegreen> | so this just started happening? and you upgraded a while ago? When you upgradded to you remove all the old 0.7 binaries and libraries? |
| 18:30 | <davehunn> | not well-formed (invalid token) at line 76, column 87, byte 10050 at /usr/lib/perl5/XML/Parser.pm line 185 |
| 18:30 | <davehunn> | why? |
| 18:30 | <Kuwanger> | It just started happening. I upgraded a few minutes ago. I upgraded because it was happening and the upgrade had no effect. The upgrade went over the previous install. |
| 18:30 | <davehunn> | running tv_grab_uk_rt is fine manually |
| 18:31 | <moegreen> | Kuwanger: the old binaries (0.7) need to be removed, and the old libraries (libmyth-0.7*) need to be removed too |
| 18:32 | <Kuwanger> | moegreen: Fine. |
| 18:32 | <moegreen> | or don't - you could always just try and restart the computer |
| 18:33 | <Kuwanger> | Done. |
| 18:34 | <Kuwanger> | So, any actual ideas on what could be wrong? |
| 18:34 | <nziarek> | davehunn: have you posted this to the myth and xmltv lists? |
| 18:35 | <moegreen> | Kuwanger: do you have the directory w/ 'libmysqlclient.so' file in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 18:35 | <Kuwanger> | /usr/lib :) |
| 18:39 | <moegreen> | Kuwanger: so this also happen when you run the 'setup' program for 0.8? |
| 18:39 | <Kuwanger> | Yes. |
| 18:39 | <Kuwanger> | And mythbackend. |
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| 18:45 | <moegreen> | Kuwanger: which distro are you using? |
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| 18:47 | <moegreen> | Kuwanger: you can try ldd /usr/lib/qt3/plugins-mt/sqldrivers/libqsqlmysql.so to make sure the library is linking to the mysqlclient lib |
| 18:49 | <Kuwanger> | Gentoo |
| 18:51 | <Kuwanger> | Hmm..it appears to not be. |
| 18:52 | <moegreen> | probably need a line like so: libmysqlclient.so.10 => /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.10 (0x40013000) |
| 18:53 | * Kuwanger | is recompiling qt at the moment. |
| 18:53 | <Kuwanger> | Might help.. |
| 18:58 | <inman> | Kuwanger: is mysql in your USE setting? if not, qt shouldn't bind to it and your problem will remain. |
| 19:00 | <Kuwanger> | Maybe? |
| 19:00 | <inman> | emerge ufed, run ufed, check off mysql |
| 19:00 | <inman> | else edit /etc/make.conf and add mysql to the USE="" statement |
| 19:02 | <Kuwanger> | kportage claims it's there. |
| 19:07 | <inman> | good. your qt compile should solve the problem. |
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| 19:13 | <TheAsp> | hey chutt, can you give me some directions to all the code involved in adding a column to record and recording schedules? :) |
| 19:14 | <TheAsp> | and whats this SR stuff? |
| 19:14 | <TheAsp> | at the top of scheduled recording. some serialization stuff? |
| 19:15 | * Kuwanger | will bbl, maybe. |
| 19:16 | <Kuwanger> | Thanks for the help. :/ |
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| 19:17 | <TheAsp> | i need a map :P~ |
| 19:18 | <TheAsp> | oh, i see |
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| 19:19 | <PeteCool> | TheAsp: I think there was a guy on the mailing list who ran doxygen on the code... give a map of the code |
| 19:19 | <keyhack> | What is the minimum processor speed for MythTV? |
| 19:19 | <TheAsp> | really? cool |
| 19:20 | <PeteCool> | keyhack: I run it fine on my celeron 1.1ghz |
| 19:20 | <keyhack> | PeteCool: I have an AMD 1.1, and its choppy (the sound is smoothe, the video is choppy) |
| 19:21 | <Chutt> | drop the resolution |
| 19:21 | <PeteCool> | keyhack: it depends on your capture resolution |
| 19:21 | <keyhack> | hmmm |
| 19:21 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: any plans to put a denoise filter in there somewhere? Or is that too slow |
| 19:21 | <keyhack> | i'll try lowering the resolution once this show is over |
| 19:21 | <PeteCool> | keyhack: I record at 320x480, mpeg4, defaults + HQ |
| 19:22 | <vektor> | i'm working on a denoise filter kinda. |
| 19:22 | <Chutt> | the denoise filters i've seen are really too slow for real time |
| 19:22 | <Chutt> | i've played with 3 or 4 |
| 19:22 | <vektor> | mine won't be |
| 19:22 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:22 | <vektor> | you can getgood results by doing like a filter on chroma crawl and other ntsc artifacts |
| 19:22 | <vektor> | liek specific to ntsc |
| 19:22 | <moegreen> | vektor: I tried tvtime out for the first time last night - looks great |
| 19:22 | <vektor> | moegreen: good job :) |
| 19:25 | <Chutt> | so for the osd |
| 19:25 | <Chutt> | text and stuff |
| 19:25 | <Chutt> | i'm thinking of replacing the specificly named text areas |
| 19:25 | <Chutt> | with static text fields |
| 19:26 | <Chutt> | like, you could specify a string of "{subtitle}" {description} ({starttime} - {endtime}) |
| 19:27 | <Chutt> | and have it fill stuff in, instead of giving it an area for things |
| 19:27 | <Chutt> | thoughts? |
| 19:27 | <TheAsp> | Chutt: how do files get stored with multiple encoders? do they get sent back to the master, or stored on each box? |
| 19:27 | <PeteCool> | TheAsp: on each for sure |
| 19:27 | <TheAsp> | hmm |
| 19:27 | <moegreen> | sounds like a good idea, what about the case of no subtitle - the "" would still be there, maybe some way to specify what encloses the subtitle (if it's there) |
| 19:27 | <TheAsp> | when you go to the delete recordings screen, what does it show for free space? |
| 19:27 | <PeteCool> | might be too slow otherwise |
| 19:27 | <Chutt> | aggregate |
| 19:27 | <TheAsp> | just the local machine? |
| 19:27 | <keyhack> | I changed it to 320x480, the video is less choppy, but its behind the sound |
| 19:27 | <TheAsp> | ok |
| 19:28 | <Chutt> | keyhack, does sound stop when you pause it? |
| 19:28 | <TheAsp> | so the best place for deletion to happen would be on the master? |
| 19:28 | <PeteCool> | keyhack: for livetv I have to have the sound uncompressed |
| 19:28 | <keyhack> | Chutt: I exited the program, and the sound still goes |
| 19:28 | <moegreen> | keyhack: which codec, RTJPEG/MPEG4 |
| 19:28 | <Chutt> | keyhack, read the faq |
| 19:28 | <keyhack> | ? |
| 19:28 | <Chutt> | you're not listening to recorded sound |
| 19:28 | <Chutt> | theasp, deletions _have_ to occur on the master |
| 19:29 | <Chutt> | the master will then ask a slave backend to remove a file, if necessary |
| 19:29 | <keyhack> | um, ok... |
| 19:29 | <keyhack> | the video is still slo |
| 19:29 | <Chutt> | fix your sound, first |
| 19:29 | <TheAsp> | ok... what function runs when you check the db for changes? |
| 19:29 | <TheAsp> | in what file |
| 19:30 | <Chutt> | check the db for changes how? |
| 19:30 | <Chutt> | keyhack, section 7 of the howto |
| 19:30 | <TheAsp> | well i assume you have something that checks the db for changes in tables somewhere, right? |
| 19:30 | <Chutt> | no, not really |
| 19:31 | <TheAsp> | oh, wait i think you misunderstood me earlier... |
| 19:31 | <TheAsp> | i ment the request for deletion |
| 19:32 | <Chutt> | keyhack, video playback is tied to audio playback, so if you're having problems with audio, your video will be having dificulties as well |
| 19:32 | <Chutt> | what request for deletion? |
| 19:32 | <Chutt> | the frontend saying to delete something? |
| 19:32 | <Chutt> | that always goes to the master backend to process |
| 19:32 | <Chutt> | frontends don't know anything besides the master exists |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | anyway, back later |
| 19:34 | <TheAsp> | no, the autodeletion im coding |
| 19:45 | <TheAsp> | hmm |
| 19:45 | <TheAsp> | have to start using doxygen |
| 19:45 | <TheAsp> | this is sweet |
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| 19:59 | <PeteCool> | TheAsp: how do you plan it to work? |
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| 20:14 | <TheAsp> | each recording will have a priority, which it inherits from it's schedule, or a default |
| 20:15 | <TheAsp> | you can change a recordings priority from the ui somehow (i'll probably force chutt to use my infoscreen patch by gunpoint by that time :) |
| 20:16 | <TheAsp> | instead of scanning every once in awhile im just going to do the autodeletion when encoderlink wakes up |
| 20:16 | <TheAsp> | to start a recording |
| 20:17 | <moegreen> | TheAsp: I assume if all your recordings have the same priority you will go by something like the oldest or smallest/largest size? |
| 20:17 | <TheAsp> | oldest to newest |
| 20:17 | <TheAsp> | im also thinking of having something to track watched shows and toss those first |
| 20:20 | <TheAsp> | afk |
| 20:21 | <nyquiljer> | is there a trick to getting myth 0.8 to load new osd themes? |
| 20:21 | <moegreen> | nyquiljer: cvs version or 0.8? |
| 20:21 | <nyquiljer> | 0.8 |
| 20:22 | <nyquiljer> | i compiled cvs last night, but i was afriad to 'make install' since i fidnally got 0.8 working after much hassle |
| 20:22 | <nyquiljer> | there any glaring instabilities that id need to be afraid of? |
| 20:22 | <moegreen> | nyquiljer: You might need to manually add it to the globalsettings.cpp file (or the globalsettings.h) <- I forget which and I can't check it |
| 20:23 | <moegreen> | nyquiljer: cvs has been stable and usually stays that way |
| 20:23 | <nyquiljer> | ok. any wired database stuff i need to deal with when switching to cvs? |
| 20:23 | <nyquiljer> | weird |
| 20:24 | <moegreen> | nyquiljer: i don't think the database has changed since 0.8 |
| 20:24 | <nyquiljer> | i am completely mysql ignorant and am deathly afriad of mucking something up |
| 20:24 | <nyquiljer> | okey doke. here goes then, thanks |
| 20:24 | <moegreen> | nyquiljer: good luck, and I'm sure you'll let me know if you have any problems :) |
| 20:25 | <nyquiljer> | thanks :) |
| 20:25 | <nyquiljer> | legal action is the customary way of letting know, right? ;) |
| 20:26 | <moegreen> | I prefer US mail |
| 20:41 | <PeteCool> | nah, send the info in Morse with your flashlight |
| 20:41 | <PeteCool> | you'd have to wait for night though :) |
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| 20:44 | <moegreen> | it's dark here |
| 20:48 | <nyquiljer> | well, it works fine, so you're off the hook :) |
| 20:49 | <TheAsp> | How would I get the free space if it is local? (from encoderlink) |
| 20:50 | <TheAsp> | looks like it's only setup to be accessed remotely |
| 20:50 | <moegreen> | TheAsp: RemoteGetFreeSpace(total, used);, if you are running the backend locally - it will report to you the local space |
| 20:50 | <TheAsp> | moegreen: this is in the backend |
| 20:51 | <TheAsp> | when it's about to start a recording |
| 20:53 | <TheAsp> | GetFreeSpace for TVRec seems to concern the ringbuffer |
| 20:54 | <TheAsp> | I'll just fake it for now... |
| 21:08 | <thor> | Chutt, if you're there, is there some reason you use pthread's everywhere instead of QThread's? |
| 21:08 | <thor> | or anyone else |
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| 21:35 | <nziarek_> | can someone point me where to go on this; i can't figure out what i didn't install (and I tried it all several times) |
| 21:35 | <nziarek_> | main.cpp: In function `int main(int, char**)': |
| 21:35 | <nziarek_> | main.cpp:385: no matching function for call to `MythContext::LCDdestroy()' |
| 21:35 | <nziarek_> | make[1]: *** [main.o] Error 1 |
| 21:35 | <nziarek_> | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mythtv/Documents/Downloads/mythtv/mythmusic/mythmusic' |
| 21:35 | <nziarek_> | make: *** [sub-mythmusic] Error 2 |
| 21:36 | <thor> | nziarek, you need a more recent libmyth |
| 21:36 | <thor> | like from the past twelve hours |
| 21:36 | <nziarek_> | this is an absolute fresh install |
| 21:36 | <nziarek_> | that exaplins it :) |
| 21:36 | <nziarek_> | can I just re-cvs it to get the new libmyth? |
| 21:36 | <thor> | cd MC |
| 21:36 | <thor> | cvs update |
| 21:37 | <thor> | cd libs/libmyth |
| 21:37 | <thor> | make |
| 21:37 | <thor> | make install |
| 21:37 | <nziarek_> | great |
| 21:37 | <nziarek_> | thanks a lot |