| 00:00 | <nziarek> | moegreen: slick... |
| 00:01 | <moegreen> | nziarek: i guess you want a shadow box behind the video playback now, huh? :) |
| 00:01 | <nziarek> | BTW my iulius playback graphics (without the selection bar) are up if anyone wants them: http://www.ziarek.com/mythtv/iulius-osd.zip |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | add it to the background layer, so it only gets drawn once =) |
| 00:01 | <moegreen> | Chutt: indeed! |
| 00:02 | <nziarek> | as in creating two seperate background images? |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | might some of the other graphics be added to the background layer as well? |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | nziarek, no, not quite |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | what it does is take the bottom layer, which is just that big semi-transparent rectangle in the tutorial? |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | and draws that into the background image, then sets the new image as the background image |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | so it's not redrawing that every time it needs to update |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | it just clears to that new image, and goes on |
| 00:03 | <moegreen> | Chutt: well...then you won't get the effect of shadows falling on the text |
| 00:03 | <nziarek> | i see |
| 00:04 | <nziarek> | the borders and such kind of need to stay on top, but the solid/transparent background and any video UI stuff could be added to the background layer, no? |
| 00:04 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 00:04 | <moegreen> | Chutt: i could try and backoff on opening the video playback, that way if you were hitting down repeatedly it might not have to start so many threads |
| 00:04 | <Chutt> | like, add a timer to the start of it? |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | nziarek, main reason is that the alpha blending is _slow_ =) |
| 00:05 | <nziarek> | i see with the popup box shading :) |
| 00:05 | <moegreen> | Chutt: right, the timer is set to the 1/30 sec now, i could add to that, then have the timer reset itself |
| 00:05 | <nziarek> | however, i never used a png before this project, so you all have only yourselves to blame! |
| 00:08 | <Chutt> | moegreen, actually, if the theme format for the playback box, etc, allows for multiple background images |
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| 00:08 | <Chutt> | that'd quite easily allow for those titles at the top =) |
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| 00:09 | <moegreen> | Chutt: which titles? |
| 00:10 | <Chutt> | in nathan's mockups |
| 00:10 | <Chutt> | the 'choose a recording... |
| 00:10 | <Chutt> | etc |
| 00:10 | <moegreen> | the one from above? |
| 00:10 | <Chutt> | yea |
| 00:10 | <moegreen> | oh, you mean the "Myth choose a recording" graphic? |
| 00:11 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 00:11 | <moegreen> | Certainly, i'm going to have to write that stuff soon :) |
| 00:12 | <moegreen> | Will I be able to grab some of the code you've already written for the OSD? |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | you can at least follow the form of it |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | the qt xml stuff is really easy |
| 00:15 | <moegreen> | cool, i've got all the variables ready to go :) |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | you didn't change the editmode stuff at all, right? |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | it's still the same as in defaultosd? |
| 00:18 | <moegreen> | Chutt: probably the same...I started off w/ what was sent to the list. I just went in there and it looks like the default stuff |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | i'll just copy over my changes so i don't break your osd right after you fixed it =) |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | i've made the fonts a little smaller |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | less obtrusive |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | since, well, that's easy now =) |
| 00:24 | <moegreen> | which fonts? |
| 00:25 | <mdz> | Chutt: I'd like to move the call to write the oldrecorded entry out of WriteRecordedToDB and have it only write that when the recording has successfully completed |
| 00:25 | <mdz> | I assume this needs to be done in tv_rec...handlestatechange? |
| 00:26 | <mdz> | if so, which transition(s) indicate that a scheduled recording has completed? |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | there's a couple |
| 00:27 | <mdz> | there's a recordingonly->none || watchingrecording->watchingprerecorded block |
| 00:27 | <mdz> | and a watchingrecording->watchinglivetv block |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | and a watchingrecording->watchinglivetv |
| 00:27 | <mdz> | heh |
| 00:27 | <Captain_Murdoch> | would it be better to do it in teardownrecorder? |
| 00:27 | <mdz> | the former just sets some state, while the latter actually does some stuff |
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| 00:28 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, actually, i just thought of something =) |
| 00:28 | <moegreen> | Chutt: should i setup a new class for this formatting code? So it can be used in other areas? |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | teardownrecorder won't get called for shows that end while you're watching them |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | moegreen, up to you |
| 00:28 | <mdz> | I was just about to ask about teardownrecorder |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | depends on how reusable you think it'll be |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | mdz, teardownrecorder will get called for that first pair of blocks |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | not the second |
| 00:29 | <mdz> | should it correspond to when the DONE_RECORDING message is sent? |
| 00:29 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 00:29 | <Chutt> | or right before that |
| 00:29 | <mdz> | that seems to happen in teardownrecorder and in handlestatechange for recording->live |
| 00:29 | <mdz> | sound about right? |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 00:30 | <moegreen> | Chutt: well it looks like I can use a lot of the functions you've written for the osd stuff |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | really? |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | i wouldn't think they'd translate over =) |
| 00:30 | <Ndiin> | Chutt: the width of the mythmusic playlist seems about 3 pixels too long (getting horiz scroll).. maybe drop the Title size a tiny bit? |
| 00:30 | <mdz> | ok, heading to bed tonight, I'll look at that soon |
| 00:30 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I make a note to do something about the commercial and blank frame stuff then as well since it only gets called in teardownrecorder now. |
| 00:30 | <Ndiin> | With the newest cvs |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | ndiin, probably, i believe that patch increased the size =) |
| 00:31 | <moegreen> | Chutt: well i've got to get a timeformat and a dateformat, maybe the font parsing |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | you've got the ratings stuff turned on? |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | moegreen, hrm |
| 00:31 | <PeteCool> | I agree with the copying to oldrecorded only on recording success |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | timeformat and dateformat are in the db |
| 00:32 | <Ndiin> | Chutt: It increased the size because there was no margins, you added margins back, though |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | right |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | it looked weird without any margins |
| 00:33 | <Ndiin> | I think it'll be fine just changing Title by like 3 pixels though |
| 00:34 | <Chutt> | ndiin, can you try it, first? |
| 00:34 | <Ndiin> | yeah |
| 00:34 | <Ndiin> | am now |
| 00:36 | <Ndiin> | dropped it by 5 (to 345) and it looks fine. |
| 00:36 | <Ndiin> | Looks like a bug was introduced with the infolabel though |
| 00:36 | <Ndiin> | pausing crashes |
| 00:37 | <Ndiin> | It wasn't doing that with my patch, though |
| 00:37 | * Ndiin | checks it out |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | i didn't like the bitrate display |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | so i excised parts =) |
| 00:37 | <Ndiin> | yeah, I saw that.. |
| 00:38 | <Ndiin> | but the pause/stop display I think is crashing it not |
| 00:38 | <Ndiin> | *now |
| 00:38 | <Chutt> | it works fine here |
| 00:38 | <Ndiin> | hmm |
| 00:38 | <Ndiin> | compiling for debug |
| 00:44 | <Ndiin> | 0x0808ac1d in PlaybackBox::pause() (this=0x81c3380) at playbackbox.cpp:927 |
| 00:44 | <Ndiin> | 927 pauseb->setOn(!isplaying); |
| 00:44 | <Ndiin> | strange. |
| 00:45 | <Ndiin> | heh |
| 00:45 | <Ndiin> | I dont have the buttons.. |
| 00:45 | <Ndiin> | so setting it on, crashes |
| 00:46 | <Chutt> | of course |
| 00:46 | <Ndiin> | if (pauseb) |
| 00:46 | <Ndiin> | added at lines 919 and 927 |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | yup, missed that |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | though the original patch only had the one at 927 |
| 00:47 | <Ndiin> | yeah, oops ;) |
| 00:48 | <Chutt> | in cvs now |
| 00:48 | <Chutt> | and now, i'm off to bed |
| 00:48 | <Ndiin> | thanks, and good night |
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| 01:17 | <foom> | hrm anyone here who can help me debug a problem where the video fails to show up? |
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| 01:48 | <inman> | foom: maybe; what's up? |
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| 01:54 | <inman> | foom: brb, testing a new kernel |
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| 02:18 | <foom> | inman: i've narrowed down the problem now..it appears to be that XV doesn't work even though it's suppsoed to. :( |
| 02:18 | <inman> | is this is a new installation? |
| 02:18 | <foom> | yeah |
| 02:18 | <inman> | video card? |
| 02:18 | <foom> | shuttle sk41g builtin ProSavageDDR P4M266 |
| 02:19 | <inman> | oh, one of those shuttle machines? |
| 02:19 | <inman> | which version of Xfree and which distro? |
| 02:19 | * inman | builds a new kernel. |
| 02:19 | <bigguy> | I know there are some new Savage drivers in X 4.3.0 |
| 02:20 | <foom> | debian, XF 4.2, with newest savage drivers downloaded off the website |
| 02:20 | <foom> | although maybe that website is dated |
| 02:20 | <foom> | http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html |
| 02:20 | * bigguy | likes the 4.3.0-ds debs |
| 02:20 | <inman> | foom: what indicates that xv is the problem? |
| 02:21 | <foom> | the screen goes black when it switches to TV mode, but otherwise it seems to be working |
| 02:21 | <foom> | mplayer -vo xv does the same |
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| 02:21 | <foom> | mplayer without -vo xv works |
| 02:21 | <bigguy> | deb ftp://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/debian-misc/daniels/current/sid/i386 ./ for unstable XFree4.3.0 |
| 02:21 | <foom> | hm thanks, I'll try that out |
| 02:21 | <bigguy> | works great for me |
| 02:21 | <inman> | foom: have you tried that trick in XJ.cpp? |
| 02:22 | <foom> | trick? |
| 02:22 | <inman> | comment out line 198 in XJ.cpp and recompile. |
| 02:23 | <inman> | oh wait, that's for nvidia |
| 02:23 | <foom> | erm line 198 is a '}' |
| 02:23 | <inman> | keep reading in there, tells you how to use the env to turn off xv |
| 02:24 | <foom> | oh yeah, i did that, and... |
| 02:24 | <foom> | it said it can't run unless i'm in 16 or 32bpp |
| 02:24 | <foom> | so i tried 16bpp and X displayed a black screen upon startup |
| 02:24 | <inman> | before launching myth? |
| 02:24 | <foom> | so I tried 32bpp and the driver complained that it didn't support that |
| 02:24 | <foom> | before launching myth |
| 02:25 | <inman> | try 24bpp? |
| 02:25 | <foom> | 24bpp is what i'm using |
| 02:25 | <foom> | it works |
| 02:25 | <inman> | okay |
| 02:25 | <foom> | but mythtv doesn't support non-XV in 24bpp |
| 02:25 | <inman> | i wonder why X bombs though. |
| 02:25 | <foom> | it doesn't bomb..it's running, simply not displaying anything |
| 02:25 | <inman> | what clients are you running in .xinitrc? |
| 02:25 | <foom> | i've been trying with simply 'X' |
| 02:25 | <foom> | so no clients |
| 02:26 | <inman> | if you run a client, does it seem to run, just without displaying anything? |
| 02:26 | <inman> | you don't see /anything/ on the screen, right? |
| 02:26 | <inman> | and this is a monitor, not tv..? |
| 02:27 | <foom> | erm this is TV |
| 02:27 | <foom> | and yes to the previous Q |
| 02:28 | <inman> | ah, so maybe the problem is that the colordepth isn't supported by the tv-out? |
| 02:28 | <foom> | I suppose that's possible, but kinda weird |
| 02:28 | <inman> | or maybe the res is changing due to the depth change and the new res isn't. |
| 02:28 | <inman> | (isn't supported) |
| 02:28 | <foom> | nope, same res on all depths in the xf86 conffile |
| 02:28 | <inman> | i would take the tv out of the equation. |
| 02:28 | <foom> | i'm gonna go test xf4.3 now |
| 02:29 | <inman> | may as well. |
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| 02:45 | <foom> | well, xf4.3 no change, but, the monitor suggestion was a good one |
| 02:45 | <foom> | X works at other colordepths on a monitor |
| 02:45 | <foom> | and so does Xv |
| 02:45 | <foom> | I wonder if perhaps Xv is changing the colordepth and thus breaking tv-out |
| 02:51 | <Ndiin> | use a Web Cable Plus for the tv out.. works great, and no mucking with crappy tvout drivers ;) |
| 02:56 | <inman> | hmmm. |
| 02:59 | <inman> | i doubt it foom. |
| 02:59 | <inman> | my guess is that the colordepth changes and tv-out are combining to produce modes that are incorrect. |
| 03:00 | <inman> | i'd try setting up X with many different resolutions at the problematic colordepth and see if changing resolutions changes the behavior. maybe tv-out will work for some resolutions and not others? |
| 03:01 | <inman> | in any case, the output from X should be helpful, too. what is it saying? any complaints? |
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| 16:20 | <foom> | can anyone help with my Xv problem? |
| 16:22 | <PeteCool> | foom: what's the problem? |
| 16:24 | <inman> | foom: does your monitor have a to way to display the current resolution? |
| 16:24 | <inman> | foom: if so, verify that the resolution isn't changing. the color depth can't change, AFAIK. |
| 16:25 | <foom> | hrm |
| 16:25 | <foom> | the problem is what i emailed to the -users mailing list |
| 16:25 | <foom> | do you know if the mini-video displays use v? |
| 16:25 | <foom> | er, Xv |
| 16:26 | <inman> | i dunno. |
| 16:26 | <foom> | I don't *think* it can be changing resolutions as I only have one defined |
| 16:26 | <inman> | you tried with the NO_XV/NO_SHM stuff? |
| 16:26 | <foom> | yeah, as I said, it doesn't work with NO_XV because I can only run it with 24bit mode |
| 16:26 | <inman> | oh yeah. |
| 16:27 | <foom> | (btw sorry for disappearing last night, my internet connection died) |
| 16:27 | * inman | shrugs. |
| 16:27 | <PeteCool> | foom: tried pressing f while trying to play a myth recording? |
| 16:27 | <PeteCool> | it just seems the tv-out isn't mapped to the overlay |
| 16:28 | <foom> | pete: i think I did but I might have been having another problem at that point because I don't think it did anything (not even go out of fullscreen mode) |
| 16:29 | <foom> | I'll try that again when i get home. I guess my main question right now is how myth displays mini-previews, since that works. |
| 16:29 | <PeteCool> | foom: IIRC there's a separate Savage X driver project, did you try those? |
| 16:30 | <foom> | i was running the latest driver from http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html |
| 16:30 | <foom> | before I installed X4.3 |
| 16:30 | <PeteCool> | did they work at all? |
| 16:31 | <foom> | it's just a new version of the one that came with X4.2 |
| 16:31 | <foom> | and yes, it worked just the same |
| 16:32 | <foom> | Xv does do mode changing right? |
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| 16:32 | <PeteCool> | It's just an overlay... I don't see why it'd need to change modes |
| 16:32 | <foom> | ok, i don't really know how it works |
| 16:33 | <PeteCool> | did you try 1.1.27t, or a previous version? |
| 16:33 | <foom> | 1.1.27t |
| 16:33 | <inman> | i think the foggy area is what the video card is doing, not what X/Xv is doing. |
| 16:34 | <PeteCool> | I don't think you can have a prosavage ddr p4m266... since it's a p4 mobo chipset :) |
| 16:35 | <PeteCool> | is that how it's detected? If yes it might be trying some wrong things |
| 16:35 | <foom> | hrm..i copied and pasted that from /proc/pci |
| 16:36 | <foom> | i noticed s3switch didn't work |
| 16:36 | <foom> | maybe it is misdetecting my card |
| 16:37 | <foom> | or maybe it's the same video chipset |
| 16:37 | <foom> | hrm, i should have a VIA ProSavageDDR KM266 I think |
| 16:37 | <PeteCool> | yeah, when you have a moment could you /msg me your XFree86 startup log? |
| 16:37 | <PeteCool> | yep |
| 16:38 | <PeteCool> | did you try putting in the "TvOnly" option in your X config? |
| 16:38 | <foom> | yep |
| 16:38 | <foom> | i'm at work right now, i'm gonna be home in about 30 minutes and i'll give you the xf86 log then |
| 16:39 | <PeteCool> | also, the BIOS (or not) mode switching option could make a difference, if you didn't try it yet |
| 16:39 | <foom> | tried it, nothing |
| 16:39 | <foom> | er actually |
| 16:39 | <foom> | it said bios doesn't support mode switching |
| 16:39 | <foom> | i think |
| 16:41 | <PeteCool> | do you have the very latest bios? I think they had problems with the earlier versions... or maybe it was another shuttle model, don't remember. |
| 16:41 | <foom> | haven't looked for a new bios |
| 16:42 | <inman> | did you see woogie's post? |
| 16:43 | <foom> | ah, nope didn't see that yet. |
| 16:43 | <foom> | hm he's using a completely different driver |
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| 16:45 | <foom> | yeah it's not the same video card |
| 16:48 | <foom> | hm the mini preview box seems to always use software drawing |
| 16:49 | <foom> | and scaling |
| 16:49 | <foom> | that's odd |
| 16:49 | <foom> | i wonder why myth doesn't use Xv for that also |
| 16:50 | <foom> | also it always uses 32-bit mode |
| 16:53 | <foom> | well i'm going home now, i'll try some of the stuff people suggested and see what happens. :) |
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| 18:02 | <inman> | paused mythmusic and when i resumed, it scanned ahead ~30secs. |
| 18:03 | <foom> | ok, so, non-fullscreen mode doesn't work either, it flashes the desktop with a window on the screen, then the whole screen goes blank |
| 18:03 | <foom> | (aka pressing 'f' in mythtv) |
| 18:03 | <inman> | can't see to scan backwards now, either. it sometimes scans ahead ~30secs. |
| 18:03 | <inman> | foom: but everything works fine on a monitor, right? |
| 18:03 | <inman> | have you confirmed which card you have and that you're using the right drivers? |
| 18:04 | <foom> | yep everything works fine on monitor |
| 18:05 | <foom> | XF logs at http://smartmonkey.static.net/XFree86.0.log |
| 18:05 | <inman> | have you tried using windows on this box? |
| 18:06 | <foom> | nope |
| 18:06 | <inman> | that might rule out a hardware problem. |
| 18:07 | <inman> | can't seem to load your log. |
| 18:07 | <inman> | are you on a cellphone? |
| 18:07 | <foom> | eh? |
| 18:07 | <foom> | oh sorry |
| 18:07 | <foom> | use :8080 |
| 18:07 | <foom> | stupid filter |
| 18:10 | <PeteCool> | video chipset seems to be detected alright |
| 18:15 | <inman> | well clearly it's throwing out 640x480-TV modeline |
| 18:15 | <foom> | hrm well I just hacked XJ to force the depth to 32 (since I'm using 24 with 32-bpp pixmaps) |
| 18:15 | <foom> | and it "works" |
| 18:15 | <foom> | but really high CPU usage |
| 18:15 | <foom> | erm works without Xv now |
| 18:15 | <foom> | yeah |
| 18:15 | <foom> | but that shouldn't matter |
| 18:15 | <foom> | because the modeline it's using works |
| 18:16 | <foom> | lemme put my config up oto |
| 18:16 | <inman> | yeah but if the tv modeline doesn't, how can it display to the tv? |
| 18:16 | <foom> | it's just a modeline for overscan, it doesn't matter |
| 18:17 | <inman> | oh |
| 18:17 | <foom> | http://smartmonkey.static.net:8080/XF86Config-4 |
| 18:18 | <foom> | the Xv overlay isn't just not working, either |
| 18:18 | <foom> | it makes the whole screen go blank |
| 18:18 | <foom> | not just the part that it's supposed to display on |
| 18:21 | <foom> | hrm maybe i should plug in TV and monitor at the same time |
| 18:21 | <foom> | i wonder if it switches the output back to monitor or something dumb like that |
| 18:23 | <foom> | hmm this bothers me |
| 18:23 | <foom> | (WW) SAVAGE(0): Option "TVOnly" is not used |
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| 18:32 | <TheAsp> | moegreen: just lost another show |
| 18:32 | <TheAsp> | moegreen: i think it's removing stuff thats being recorded during the watching of something |
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| 18:40 | <moegreen> | TheAsp: i don't think its doing that |
| 18:40 | <TheAsp> | how about deleting the first entry for some reason? |
| 18:40 | <TheAsp> | :) |
| 18:40 | <TheAsp> | where is the code? |
| 18:41 | <TheAsp> | also, is tonight's 24 a repeat? |
| 18:42 | <moegreen> | the only place I call the doRemove() code is from the doDelete() function <- which is called when you selected the "Yes, get rid of it" button |
| 18:42 | <TheAsp> | you are going to make me grep for a function name? :P |
| 18:43 | <moegreen> | well ... if you use 'vi' it's as simple as hitting /doDelete( |
| 18:43 | <TheAsp> | in what file? |
| 18:43 | <moegreen> | i have changed a bunch of things on my version i've got sitting here, so I can't give you a line # |
| 18:43 | <TheAsp> | though i found it with grep aparently :) |
| 18:43 | <moegreen> | it's in the playbackbox.cpp file |
| 18:44 | <TheAsp> | there is no way curitem could have been changed between when you start viewing and the popup comes up? |
| 18:47 | <moegreen> | curitem gets set in 3 places, NULL to start, the current place in the list when you move the list, and when the promptEndOfRecording is called |
| 18:47 | <TheAsp> | though i dont remember the text being wrong in the popup |
| 18:51 | <TheAsp> | grr, wish there was a nice way to test this... |
| 18:52 | <TheAsp> | moe: could you throw in some debugging messages for a few days? |
| 18:52 | <moegreen> | TheAsp: you can comment out RemoteDeleteRecording(rec); and put a cout with the rec->title or something like that |
| 18:52 | <TheAsp> | i spose i could make my own |
| 18:52 | <TheAsp> | :P |
| 18:52 | <moegreen> | that will ensure it doesn't actually delete the file, it might cause other problems with the listbox, but you won't lose anything :) |
| 18:52 | <TheAsp> | yeah |
| 18:52 | <TheAsp> | is there a way to print out a backtrace in c++? |
| 18:53 | <TheAsp> | without having gdb... |
| 18:53 | <moegreen> | i don't think so - why do you need a backtrace? |
| 18:54 | <TheAsp> | so that when i get to that cout, i know what triggered it |
| 18:54 | <thor> | TheAsp, you can try an "strace ./command" (you need the ./ or it will execute from PATH) |
| 18:55 | <foom> | attach to it in gdb and set height 0; break <place>; commands; bt; continue; done; |
| 18:55 | <TheAsp> | not what i want thor... |
| 18:55 | <moegreen> | TheAsp: well yeah, just do something like this: cout << "Requested a delete :: " << rec->title << ", " << rec->desc << ", delete ignored.\n"; |
| 18:55 | <TheAsp> | moegreen: long done... |
| 18:56 | <moegreen> | then when you hit that code (make sure you comment out the RemoveDeleteRecording), you'll know |
| 18:57 | <TheAsp> | does the same popup get used when you hit d from the list? |
| 18:57 | <moegreen> | TheAsp: yeah, the popup is called by showDeletePopup() or something like that |
| 18:58 | <TheAsp> | thats why i wanted the backtrace :) |
| 18:58 | <moegreen> | pft ... always want it the easy way ;) |
| 19:01 | <TheAsp> | ohyeah, the exiting recording screen now has the labels at weird alignments... :) |
| 19:01 | <TheAsp> | OK! |
| 19:01 | <TheAsp> | i just watched it remove an in progress recording |
| 19:02 | <TheAsp> | while deleting another |
| 19:02 | <TheAsp> | without the debugging code in |
| 19:03 | * TheAsp | turns on his tv and fumbles trying to remember how to use it |
| 19:03 | <moegreen> | TheAsp: Is it gone, or just now in the list? |
| 19:03 | <TheAsp> | well it was the old code, it's gone, recording stopped |
| 19:04 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: the xml blueosd doesn't display the auto-skip skipped seconds correctly |
| 19:05 | <PeteCool> | some text is drawn in the smae space as the progressbar |
| 19:05 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: ok, i'll look into that shortly |
| 19:05 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: with the current font size it needs to be displayed on three lines, was two beofre |
| 19:06 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: I think before I had it not displaying all of the data, it didn't used to have the % full at least |
| 19:06 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: you could either make the box bigger, or the fonts smaller, I think I like the first one better |
| 19:07 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: also, is it possible and practical to have blueosd be transparent as defaultosd is? |
| 19:08 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: it is possible, but it also takes up a lot less of a footprint on the screen |
| 19:08 | <TheAsp> | some weird stuff happens if you have a timeslot record then create an alwaysrecord for the same show on another channel |
| 19:08 | <PeteCool> | a lot less of a footprint? you mean it stands out less? |
| 19:09 | <moegreen> | TheAsp: I just tried recording a program, then deleting a different program, but the recording is still going on |
| 19:09 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: I mean it doesn't take up 40% of the screen |
| 19:10 | <TheAsp> | i have a theory... |
| 19:10 | <TheAsp> | i'm usually on a different desktop watching |
| 19:12 | <TheAsp> | hmm |
| 19:12 | <TheAsp> | can't reproduce it |
| 19:13 | <TheAsp> | the list doesn't get updated from the db after the file is removed, does it? |
| 19:13 | <moegreen> | it should be |
| 19:14 | <TheAsp> | so the rest of doRemove just moves the cursor? |
| 19:15 | <TheAsp> | Maybe it's not your stuff thats doing it |
| 19:16 | <moegreen> | TheAsp: The cursor gets moved around after a delete, this is in case the cursor is past the end of the list (since it is now one shorter) or in case the cursor is in a program title that no longer exists |
| 19:16 | <TheAsp> | yeah |
| 19:17 | <moegreen> | TheAsp: You could always add a cout or two to where the RemoteDeleteRecording code is, because that can stop the recording if something else is calling it |
| 19:18 | <TheAsp> | yeah |
| 19:23 | <TheAsp> | grr |
| 19:23 | <TheAsp> | think it's in the backend |
| 19:23 | <moegreen> | TheAsp: that's not my forte - sorry :) |
| 19:24 | <TheAsp> | :) |
| 19:26 | <TheAsp> | hmm |
| 19:26 | <TheAsp> | worked that time |
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| 19:51 | <TheAsp> | 3000 cerr's later... |
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| 20:24 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: nice livetv osd btw |
| 20:25 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: did you try that one? |
| 20:27 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: thanks, I thought it might get other people thinking about different ways to present the osd |
| 20:35 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: actually I like it a little better than nathan's =) |
| 20:36 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: maybe a bit because it's original |
| 20:39 | <PeteCool> | what kind of uptimes do your mythboxes have? I usually get less than three days (because I choose to - kernel messing mostly) |
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| 20:43 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: I haven't seen Nathan's yet - did he do an OSD theme - or are you talking about his mockups? |
| 20:46 | <nziarek> | where is this new OSD we are all talking about? |
| 20:48 | <nziarek> | is there a screenshot of it available? i broke my Myth again :( |
| 20:50 | <nyquiljer> | any benefit to using ext3 over ext2 with myth? |
| 20:54 | <moegreen> | nyquiljer: Not really |
| 20:54 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: I was talking about the mockups |
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| 20:55 | <moegreen> | nziarek: i can try and get a screenshot, it's not easy when using xv (in fact - I don't know how). I'll see how it looks with XV off |
| 20:55 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: it's in cvs as of yesterday night |
| 20:55 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: how is it broken? |
| 20:56 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: i attempted to upgrade to Mandrake 9.1...now my login screen is too long and I can't see what I am typing |
| 20:56 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: and when I get in, even after I start the db, it says that it can't open it |
| 20:56 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: hmm... did you upgrade every package you had? |
| 20:56 | <nziarek> | i think...i dont remember the command |
| 20:56 | <m0tion> | anyone ever gotten these errors? "Your soundcard is not reporting free space correctly. |
| 20:56 | <m0tion> | Falling back to old method... |
| 20:56 | <m0tion> | Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost!" |
| 20:57 | <nziarek> | actually, there was something that was different about the db and qt in 9.1 |
| 20:57 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: is mysql started? I remember some mandrake scripts for it didn't work |
| 20:57 | <nziarek> | yeah, i have to manually run it when I restart |
| 20:57 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: you're getting the QMYSQL3 error? |
| 20:57 | <nziarek> | it just says "couldn't open db" |
| 20:58 | <nziarek> | in the How-tos I am remembering something that had to be done special for 9.1, though. i'll try to find it again |
| 20:59 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: install libqt3-mysql |
| 20:59 | <PeteCool> | (from the howto) |
| 20:59 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: thanks - just read that :) |
| 21:02 | <PeteCool> | how can a celeron 1.1 can be overwhelmed with 320x480 livetv? dammit |
| 21:04 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: actually, that didn't do it. plus the log in screen is like 10000x600 while the screen res is 800x600 =) makes it hard to see :) |
| 21:04 | <nziarek> | probably just reinstall |
| 21:06 | <foom> | heh...somehow i managed to get Xv to work now |
| 21:06 | <foom> | i'm not quite sure why it decided to start working. :P |
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| 21:07 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: mandrake 9.1 again? |
| 21:08 | <PeteCool> | foom: could you compare the working XFree86.0.log with the non-working one? I want to buy one of those someday, could help to know why it worked :) |
| 21:09 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: yeah, well, a fresh install this time; it at least had font smoothing working :) |
| 21:10 | <foom> | ok i've got it. :) |
| 21:11 | <PeteCool> | any real changes? |
| 21:11 | <foom> | i needed to run "s3switch TV" while X was running with UseBios yes option |
| 21:11 | <foom> | even though it was already displaying on the TV |
| 21:12 | <PeteCool> | ok, nice... great you got it working |
| 21:12 | <foom> | i think it must be a bug in the savage xfree driver |
| 21:12 | <PeteCool> | it's not a bug, it's a feature ;) |
| 21:13 | <foom> | right. :) |
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| 21:15 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: I used mandrake from 7.1 to 8.2, what I don't like is the problems you get when upgrading |
| 21:15 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: I liked it other than that |
| 21:17 | <foom> | someone who knows about X should fix the bug where myth thinks it can't run in software mode with 24bpp depth/32bpp pixmaps |
| 21:18 | <foom> | myth assumes that the screendepth is the same as the pixmap bpp |
| 21:18 | <Chutt> | you don't want to be running in software mode |
| 21:18 | <foom> | i know I don't, but I was trying to at least test it in that |
| 21:19 | <foom> | and it did work after I forced XJ_depth = 32; into XJ.cpp :) |
| 21:19 | <foom> | but that's not the right way to do it either. :P |
| 21:20 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: yeah, this upgrade wasn't terribly graceful, that is for sure. But, Mandrake has the best documentation, so it is what I gotta use :) |
| 21:20 | <foom> | debian has crappy documentation but good upgrades |
| 21:20 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: I have it working in gentoo, if you ever want to try it, I'm all available to help :) |
| 21:21 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: thanks :) problem there is I hear Gentoo is a bear to setup |
| 21:21 | <nziarek> | do you really get a 30% performace boost from gentoo over mandrake/redhat? |
| 21:21 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: I don't know the % but it is faster for me |
| 21:22 | <nziarek> | hmmm...something to consider the next time I start playing with chmod (broke my last 4 installs with that) |
| 21:22 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: it's not hard to install if you follow the install document, but it does take a while, and a great while if you're on dialup |
| 21:22 | <nziarek> | as my Linux friend said: "There are lots of one line commands you can run that screw up your entire system" |
| 21:23 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: i'll check it out tomorrow |
| 21:23 | <PeteCool> | like chmod 000 /etc/* |
| 21:23 | <PeteCool> | (or similar) |
| 21:24 | <PeteCool> | the init scripts would become unreadable... though it's easily recoverable |
| 21:24 | <foom> | cd /; touch -- -rf; rm * |
| 21:24 | <foom> | :) |
| 21:24 | <nziarek> | easy |
| 21:24 | <nziarek> | +) |
| 21:25 | <nziarek> | are there seperate backgrounds enabled in the themes? |
| 21:28 | <foom> | hey chutt: one other odd thing i noticed while futzing around in the code: the preview displays don't use Xv, they only use software translation/scaling -- is there any reason for that? |
| 21:29 | <moegreen> | nziarek: not yet, I think once we get more of the XML configuration stuff worked into different parts of the code - the background and extra graphics will be available |
| 21:29 | <Chutt> | it's easier |
| 21:29 | <Chutt> | and xv doesn't scale down that small very well |
| 21:29 | <PeteCool> | and it's fast enough |
| 21:29 | <Chutt> | lotta bad visual artifacts |
| 21:29 | <foom> | ah |
| 21:30 | <Chutt> | at least on the two cards i have access to (gf4 ti4200 and a g200) |
| 21:30 | <foom> | it just seemed kinda strange that it wasn't doing everything the same way and it really confused me when I was trying to figure out why Xv wasn't working. :) |
| 21:31 | <nziarek> | i wonder; i am starting to revamp some of the iulius stuff to make it "prettier" (now that I have the basics down) - if I wanted to add extra graphics to a page - say a large music symbol on the background for MythMusic, is there a way to specify that without having to create seperate backgrounds for each? |
| 21:31 | <Chutt> | not yet, no |
| 21:31 | <PeteCool> | foom: I hit that too, the Kyro I was using displayed the image as though there was a green film over it... really confusing |
| 21:32 | <moegreen> | nziarek: you will be able to add it into an XML theme config, just the extra graphic |
| 21:32 | <Chutt> | soooooon |
| 21:32 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 21:32 | <moegreen> | eventually :) |
| 21:32 | <nziarek> | ok, does that make sense processing-wise, or would it just be better to have seperate backgrounds? |
| 21:33 | <nziarek> | just thinking about 400MB themes =) |
| 21:33 | <moegreen> | nziarek: doesn't really matter |
| 21:33 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: simply compress the hell out of those png's |
| 21:34 | <nziarek> | well, it might turn out to be too cluttered anyway; function over eye-candy and all, jsut curious as a layer these graphics |
| 21:34 | <PeteCool> | maybe photoshop doesn't expose that? I don't remember it being in version 6 |
| 21:34 | <moegreen> | Well we are recording video ... so the space for themes shouldn't be much of an issue |
| 21:35 | <nziarek> | png compression - photoshop doesn't do good compression period |
| 21:35 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: send them to me, I can do that in a second |
| 21:35 | <PeteCool> | nziarek: when they're reday |
| 21:35 | <nziarek> | PeteCool: right :) |
| 21:35 | <PeteCool> | damn typos |
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| 21:38 | <rcaskey> | hey all, how are the debian packages these days, are they still being kept up? |
| 21:38 | <Chutt> | i run pngcrush on everything i check into cvs |
| 21:38 | <foom> | they are fine |
| 21:38 | <foom> | 0.8 |
| 21:38 | <foom> | works great |
| 21:39 | <rcaskey> | foom: apt-src? |
| 21:39 | <foom> | apt-src? |
| 21:39 | <foom> | oh |
| 21:39 | <rcaskey> | err sorry, sources.list line |
| 21:39 | <Chutt> | there's a link on the webpage. |
| 21:39 | <foom> | deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu:8088/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv |
| 21:40 | <rcaskey> | ok, found it |
| 21:40 | <rcaskey> | just wasn't on the downloads page |
| 21:40 | <rcaskey> | thanks |
| 21:48 | <rcaskey> | how bad of an idea would it be to give MythMusic the url of a file server with 60 gigs of mp3s on it that is only acceccible over a 32k/sec connection to index? |
| 21:48 | <Chutt> | it'll transfer all 60 gigs. |
| 21:48 | <rcaskey> | that might not be a good thing |
| 21:55 | <moegreen> | rcaskey: could you even play the music over that same link? |
| 21:55 | <rcaskey> | ye |
| 21:55 | <rcaskey> | err yes |
| 21:55 | <rcaskey> | 32k/sec is plenty fast for mp3 |
| 21:56 | <moegreen> | rcaskey: i assume k = kbytes then? |
| 21:56 | <rcaskey> | yes |
| 21:57 | <inman> | it's trivial to insert the metadata yourself, assuming you have faster access to the files from elsewhere. |
| 22:00 | <TheAsp> | Chutt: anyway the backend could possible delete the wrong show? |
| 22:00 | <TheAsp> | :) |
| 22:01 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 22:01 | <TheAsp> | grr |
| 22:01 | <Chutt> | it just deletes what it's told to by the frontend |
| 22:01 | <Chutt> | uses all the data that's sent to it |
| 22:01 | <TheAsp> | yeah, i didnt see anything, since it basically passes the whole program struct |
| 22:02 | <TheAsp> | since the new popup stuff the wrong file will be deleted the odd time |
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| 22:04 | <itsame> | Anyone around? |
| 22:05 | <itsame> | guest not |
| 22:05 | <moegreen> | TheAsp: i commited some stuff to cvs, try that and see if it helps |
| 22:05 | <TheAsp> | oh, and bad stuff happens if you have an always record and a timeslot record for the same show |
| 22:05 | <moegreen> | though I can't reproduce that problem you are having |
| 22:06 | <TheAsp> | neither can i |
| 22:06 | <TheAsp> | till it happens |
| 22:06 | <rcaskey> | I installed from packages and got a undefined symbol error |
| 22:06 | <itsame> | Anyone get Myth working go on Shuttle Hardware |
| 22:06 | <rcaskey> | relocation error: //usr/local/lib/libmyth-0.7.so.0: undefined symbol blah blah |
| 22:06 | <itsame> | everyonce and awhile I see a story about someone getting it to work |
| 22:07 | <Chutt> | rcaskey, try removing your self-compiled stuff first. |
| 22:07 | <moegreen> | itsame: There has been a lot of discussions about it on the mailing list |
| 22:07 | <rcaskey> | yeah |
| 22:07 | <rcaskey> | thats probably it |
| 22:07 | <itsame> | yea .I've gone thru most of those |
| 22:07 | <Chutt> | probably? |
| 22:07 | <itsame> | just lookin at buying some hardware |
| 22:07 | <itsame> | and wanted to get some Myth Comp |
| 22:07 | <foom> | itsame: i got it working now |
| 22:07 | <itsame> | Compatible ... |
| 22:08 | <itsame> | cool ..Wut type |
| 22:08 | <foom> | on sk41g |
| 22:08 | <rcaskey> | going to have to mess with the db to as it didn't like my mysql setup |
| 22:08 | <rcaskey> | err too |
| 22:08 | <itsame> | one of the newer with the Geofrce 4 |
| 22:08 | <itsame> | cool |
| 22:09 | <itsame> | thats the VIA one |
| 22:09 | <itsame> | right |
| 22:09 | <itsame> | wit Tuner? |
| 22:09 | <itsame> | foom: Wut tuner? |
| 22:09 | <foom> | wintv dbx model 401 |
| 22:09 | <itsame> | HAHA |
| 22:09 | <itsame> | sweet |
| 22:09 | <itsame> | thats wut I got |
| 22:09 | <itsame> | just turned in my WinTV Go |
| 22:10 | <itsame> | 190 |
| 22:10 | <itsame> | for one |
| 22:10 | <itsame> | I have it working halve ass on a P550 desktop running Mandrake |
| 22:10 | <itsame> | but I really would like to get it flying on a Shuttle Slackware box |
| 22:11 | <rcaskey> | now that I finally got a good modeline, I'm happy with my transcoder |
| 22:11 | <itsame> | foom: You just using the Via onboard TV out? |
| 22:12 | <foom> | yeah |
| 22:12 | <foom> | i'm running debian |
| 22:12 | <itsame> | cool |
| 22:13 | <foom> | the tv out was giving me problems but I finally got it to work |
| 22:13 | <itsame> | I just couldn't get myself to blow $$ on a TIVO when this great SW is out ther |
| 22:13 | <bewmIES> | I have the frontend running on a SV25 (Shuttle) |
| 22:13 | <bewmIES> | works fine |
| 22:13 | <itsame> | Mad props to the developers if they around |
| 22:14 | <itsame> | Mine on the P550 is a little flaky on the sound |
| 22:14 | <rcaskey> | foom: I'm getting great video now, its rocking with Xine and friends here |
| 22:14 | <itsame> | but I'm hoping the stereo dbx 401 will fix that |
| 22:14 | <foom> | what modeline do you use? |
| 22:14 | <bewmIES> | yeah, mine is a 1.3 celery |
| 22:15 | <rcaskey> | 720x480 is the mode for me |
| 22:15 | <foom> | i haven't found a good modeline yet |
| 22:15 | <bewmIES> | but it's not doing much (just running the frontend, backend is on my XP box) |
| 22:15 | <foom> | i'm not sure the modeline even does anything to the TV out |
| 22:15 | <itsame> | anyone heard of anyone getting it running on slackware |
| 22:15 | <foom> | but maybe it does. :P |
| 22:15 | <rcaskey> | Modeline "720x480" 28.322 720 804 720 730 480 483 486 512 -hsync -vsync |
| 22:15 | <itsame> | I can't get it to compile |
| 22:15 | <bewmIES> | shouldn't be much harder then getting it working on any other distro. |
| 22:16 | <foom> | the one thing that I'm having trouble with that's left is that myth freezes for 30 seconds after a channel change if I use the btaudio digital input instead of soundout->soundcard input. |
| 22:16 | <foom> | but that has an easy workaround. :) |
| 22:16 | <itsame> | sweet |
| 22:16 | <itsame> | someone needs to get write a FAQ of a setup that works |
| 22:17 | <itsame> | i couldn't believe no examples out on the net |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | just about anything will work |
| 22:17 | <foom> | what do -vsync and -hsync actually do anyways? :P |
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