| 00:14 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: have you ever tried recording with xvid CVS ? |
| 00:15 | <PeteCool> | using some of the experimental features yielded much better quality than what I'm seeing with ffmpeg mpeg4 encoding |
| 00:15 | <PeteCool> | it compressed at over 70fps on my XP 1700+, as a low-priority process, at DVD resolutions |
| 00:19 | <PeteCool> | I'll have to get off my butt and really take a look at the code soon |
| 00:22 | <poptix> | PeteCool: my PVR-250 compresses real time DVD quality video at 12mbit using 0% cpu =p |
| 00:22 | <poptix> | well, actually the application that reads it, and feeds it into a ringbuffer is using .1% cpu.. |
| 00:23 | <bigguy> | poptix: using linux with ivtv? |
| 00:23 | <bigguy> | or what? |
| 00:24 | <PeteCool> | poptix: but do I really have that kind of $$$ to put into a tuner? not yet |
| 00:24 | <PeteCool> | it's not recompressing anything? |
| 00:25 | * bigguy | looks for his extra adaptec 2940uw |
| 00:25 | <PeteCool> | which one is that? |
| 00:26 | <bigguy> | it's just a scsi card |
| 00:26 | <bigguy> | 68pin uw |
| 00:26 | <poptix> | bigguy: i use the reference driver and the ivtv driver |
| 00:26 | <poptix> | and no, it's not reprocessing anything |
| 00:26 | <poptix> | mplayer is deinterlacing, that's about it |
| 00:27 | <bigguy> | do you capture also, poptix? |
| 00:29 | <bigguy> | I wan't to move my cel533 to do another task. Should I use one of my lower p1 chips or the k6-2 400 as the replacement gateway? Only thing that I might use it for is to screen a couple of irc sessions other than nat stuff |
| 00:29 | <bigguy> | want |
| 00:29 | <PeteCool> | that'll do fine |
| 00:30 | <PeteCool> | I did that with a 486-33 for a while |
| 00:30 | <bigguy> | PeteCool: the lower p1 chips? |
| 00:30 | <PeteCool> | jsut make sure it has >32megs of ram |
| 00:30 | <bigguy> | I did it with a p233mmx for a while but the hdd's crashed |
| 00:30 | <PeteCool> | my current gateway is a p1-100mhz |
| 00:30 | <PeteCool> | with 96 megs of ram |
| 00:30 | <bigguy> | k |
| 00:31 | <PeteCool> | the only thing slow is spam-filtering of e-mail, and I think the HD is the bottleneck there |
| 00:31 | <bigguy> | I've got a p166 with 96 |
| 00:31 | <bigguy> | well I don't run my own mta |
| 00:31 | <bigguy> | My isp does a good job of that |
| 00:31 | <bigguy> | so I only need the mua |
| 00:33 | <bigguy> | I need to go back through my iptables script somtime and make it more init friendly |
| 00:34 | <bigguy> | or just run it from ip-up |
| 00:39 | <bigguy> | heh found an old intel server board that works so I'll prolly do that tomorrow after I get in from EMT Training |
| 00:40 | <bigguy> | oh well off to bed |
| 00:40 | <bigguy> | afk |
| 00:48 | <Justin_> | where does mythtv turn off windowmanger decorations? |
| 00:51 | <poptix> | bigguy: yes, capture is just a matter of cat /dev/video0 > capture.mpg |
| 00:52 | <Justin_> | in 0.7 it worked fine, since I moved to cvs a while ago, the window is still the right size, but decorations are still on |
| 00:52 | <Captain_Murdoch> | poptix, did I hear you say you were going to add pvr250 support to MythTV like the G200 support was added? |
| 00:52 | <Justin_> | poptix: does that file have both audio and video? |
| 00:52 | <PeteCool> | Justin_: what window manager are you using? |
| 00:52 | <Captain_Murdoch> | justin, it's a mpeg program stream I believe. |
| 00:52 | <Justin_> | pwm |
| 00:53 | <Justin_> | not the most complient, but most things work |
| 00:53 | <PeteCool> | try one of these: oroborus, ratpoison, evilwm |
| 00:53 | <Justin_> | the other myth windows are fine |
| 00:53 | <Justin_> | uh thanks, i'd rather not use a shitty WM |
| 00:54 | <Justin_> | its definately a bug in mythtv since every other myth window is fine |
| 00:54 | <PeteCool> | the only thing that does that here is twm |
| 00:54 | <PeteCool> | the thing is pwm want to tab your windows |
| 00:54 | <Justin_> | no, thats not why |
| 00:54 | <PeteCool> | at whatever price |
| 00:54 | <Justin_> | please get a clue |
| 01:02 | <poptix> | Justin_: yes |
| 01:02 | <poptix> | Captain_Murdoch: a friend of mine has offered to do it in a week or so when he has time in return for a case or two of beer |
| 01:03 | <Captain_Murdoch> | cool, I've got a pvr250 sitting here wanting to be used. |
| 01:04 | <Justin_> | ahhh |
| 01:04 | <Justin_> | all of myth uses showFullScreen |
| 01:04 | <Justin_> | which is a qt function |
| 01:04 | <Justin_> | ...except for mythtv |
| 01:06 | <poptix> | Captain_Murdoch: have you looked at the ivtv drivers on sourceforge? |
| 01:06 | <Justin_> | http://doc.trolltech.com/3.1/qwidget.html#showFullScreen |
| 01:06 | * Captain_Murdoch | wonders who's going to write MythShare which will allow you to publish up on the net (password protected of course) your recorded files. |
| 01:06 | <Justin_> | so thats why everything else works |
| 01:06 | <Captain_Murdoch> | poptix: yeah. downloaded it, just haven't recompiled my kernel to make use of it. need to reinstall the card also. |
| 01:07 | <poptix> | Captain_Murdoch: ah, alrighty. |
| 01:07 | <poptix> | Captain_Murdoch: just make sure you follow the instructions as to which order to load stuff in |
| 01:07 | <poptix> | bbl |
| 01:08 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I've even looked into splitting the mpeg stream into the audio & video parts, but know that will take a small chunk of code in Myth to get them split so they can be saved in the .nuv format file |
| 01:10 | <Justin_> | ahhh i think I see why it doesn't work |
| 01:10 | <Justin_> | the toggle fullscreen fun calls decorate(0); |
| 01:10 | <Justin_> | decorate() doesn't do anything:) |
| 01:13 | <PeteCool> | Justin_: do it say to put the top-left corner of the window to 0,0 ? |
| 01:14 | <PeteCool> | do = does |
| 01:14 | <Justin_> | myth windows do |
| 01:14 | <Justin_> | mythtv windows are the right size, but have decorations |
| 01:14 | <Justin_> | i also noticed that the one time I tried running it at work on a box with a windows X server |
| 01:15 | <Justin_> | can you move your window when its fullscreen? |
| 01:15 | <PeteCool> | not that I know |
| 01:15 | <PeteCool> | there's nothing to "grab" it |
| 01:15 | <Justin_> | i think mythtv isnt making it decorationless, just putting it at 0,0 and figuring that it will dar right |
| 01:15 | <Justin_> | try alt-mouse1 |
| 01:15 | <Justin_> | or such |
| 01:16 | <PeteCool> | I'm pretty sure it'll work with evilwm |
| 01:16 | <PeteCool> | I'm using oroborus ATM, I'll try later |
| 01:16 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Justin_: do you mean the actual video window? |
| 01:16 | <Justin_> | yes |
| 01:16 | <Justin_> | thats the only window that doesn't use qt to set itself fullscreen |
| 01:18 | <Justin_> | its not completey wrong, it ends up being at about 0,5 |
| 01:18 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, it's in Xj.cpp. I just fired it up and it had decorations. I've got the gui set to 800x600 on my dev machine, but the code in XJ.cpp sets the video window to full-screen anyway. |
| 01:19 | <Justin_> | yeah, thats where i was looking |
| 01:22 | <Justin_> | I dunno why it worked in 0.70:-/ |
| 01:26 | <Justin_> | i fixed it:) told pwm that "MythTV.MythTV" windows should never have borders:) |
| 01:28 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I think i did that on my main box with fvwm. |
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| 02:45 | <RagnaRoC> | Hey folks...I just got MythTV up and running proeprly a few hours ago...was workign great for hours but then it started having minor audio/video sync problems so I termianted app...DOn't remember btu I think prg crashed actually...so i rebooted...now it locks on selecting Watch TV :( |
| 02:45 | <RagnaRoC> | I have no ides why it would work right for so long and then start having a problem like this |
| 02:47 | <RagnaRoC> | Anyone awake? |
| 02:47 | <RagnaRoC> | :( |
| 02:59 | <thor_> | RagnaRoc, I shouldn't be awake but I am |
| 02:59 | <RagnaRoC> | heh,heh |
| 02:59 | <RagnaRoC> | Lucky for me |
| 02:59 | <thor_> | Infant daughter |
| 02:59 | <thor_> | crying |
| 02:59 | <RagnaRoC> | ouch |
| 02:59 | <RagnaRoC> | Painful |
| 03:00 | <thor_> | she's asleep now |
| 03:00 | <RagnaRoC> | Well at least there is hope then :) |
| 03:00 | <thor_> | Yes |
| 03:00 | <RagnaRoC> | I assume youread above? |
| 03:00 | <thor_> | Yup, hang on one sec |
| 03:00 | <RagnaRoC> | okie dokie |
| 03:02 | <thor_> | If you're having occasional failures, it's almost certainly hardware related. CPU and/or memory overheating is **very** common. Myth encoding pushes hardware. |
| 03:02 | <thor_> | Thing about more/better fans |
| 03:02 | <RagnaRoC> | hmmm it ran fine for many hours........... |
| 03:03 | <RagnaRoC> | werid |
| 03:03 | <thor_> | Exactly... |
| 03:03 | <RagnaRoC> | never had a overheating problem on my system before |
| 03:03 | <RagnaRoC> | XAWTV still owrks ok though |
| 03:03 | <thor_> | "works fine", then "stops working" is not a software problem (software never changes) |
| 03:03 | <RagnaRoC> | mythTV will not start TV viewing AT ALL any more |
| 03:04 | <RagnaRoC> | so ya saying leave it alone awhile |
| 03:04 | <RagnaRoC> | and it will work again, eh? |
| 03:04 | <thor_> | Well, you need to experiment |
| 03:04 | <thor_> | if you leave it off for half an hour |
| 03:04 | <thor_> | ... then have no problems |
| 03:04 | <thor_> | then have "weird" problems |
| 03:04 | <thor_> | the lesson is "software doesn't change" |
| 03:05 | <RagnaRoC> | I just suspect that since XawTv works fine still yet I can't even watch a second of tv on MyttV anymore thta it is other then that |
| 03:05 | <RagnaRoC> | make any sense? |
| 03:05 | <thor_> | xawtv does not place anywhere near the load that Myth does |
| 03:05 | <RagnaRoC> | enough to not even allow it to get past menu screen? |
| 03:05 | <RagnaRoC> | I mean it totally locks on menu |
| 03:06 | <RagnaRoC> | the minute I hit enter twice |
| 03:06 | <RagnaRoC> | that is it |
| 03:06 | <RagnaRoC> | first time does nothing |
| 03:06 | <RagnaRoC> | second time locks |
| 03:06 | <RagnaRoC> | frontend |
| 03:06 | <RagnaRoC> | and then I have to kill it |
| 03:06 | <thor_> | hard to say .... what's your hardware |
| 03:07 | <RagnaRoC> | PIII 700 Mhz Coppermine , 384 Megs RAM , Diamond Viper 770D TNT 2 Ultra 32 Meg |
| 03:08 | <RagnaRoC> | Sound Blaster Audigy sound |
| 03:08 | <RagnaRoC> | 30 gig HD |
| 03:08 | <thor_> | sound, memory, storage, and video sound OK |
| 03:09 | <thor_> | but your CPU has probably been working very hard over the last few hours |
| 03:09 | <RagnaRoC> | everything else on system is still functioning normally |
| 03:09 | <thor_> | hey, Linux is robust |
| 03:09 | <thor_> | anything specific happen before it (Myth) stopped working |
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| 03:12 | <thor_> | Only thing I can tell you is that I had a system in my living room that exhibited "weird" errors (myth segfaults, everything else working fine), and once I put in a fan to cool the RAM that was absolutely the end of my problems. |
| 03:14 | <thor_> | also, you said "eh?" and the end of a question. Canadian? |
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| 03:15 | <RagnaRoC_> | Thor still there? |
| 03:15 | <RagnaRoC_> | I just had something very odd happen! |
| 03:16 | <RagnaRoC_> | I I checked something on video card and power to whole system just went bye-bye |
| 03:16 | <RagnaRoC_> | would nt come back on for minute or two |
| 03:16 | <RagnaRoC_> | and then I had to unplug power and then plug back in |
| 03:16 | <RagnaRoC_> | I tried a game that used the 3d functions that normally works fine and it locked the system! |
| 03:16 | <RagnaRoC_> | Hard locked! |
| 03:16 | <RagnaRoC_> | So there may be something to what ya said |
| 03:17 | <RagnaRoC_> | I do believe the video cards chipset or memory overheated |
| 03:17 | <RagnaRoC_> | the fan on the video card made stranges noises occasionally and I had to clean it out...fan may be going |
| 03:17 | <thor_> | It's hardware. I'm almost sure |
| 03:18 | <RagnaRoC_> | Yeah I am starting to think you are right |
| 03:18 | <RagnaRoC_> | damn |
| 03:18 | <RagnaRoC_> | I never had that game (Chromium) lock system before! |
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| 03:18 | <RagnaRoC_> | Wow MythTV must have really pushed my old box |
| 03:18 | <RagnaRoC_> | LOL |
| 03:18 | <RagnaRoC_> | Is this a frequent thing? |
| 03:19 | <RagnaRoC_> | on old hardware? |
| 03:19 | <RagnaRoC_> | The MythTV Torture test? |
| 03:19 | <RagnaRoC_> | ;) |
| 03:19 | <thor_> | Myth is a great way to discover that your system could never have hosted slashdot |
| 03:19 | <RagnaRoC_> | heh,heh |
| 03:19 | <RagnaRoC_> | You think system will return to normal once temp drops? |
| 03:20 | <RagnaRoC_> | I tuned AC on and opened case |
| 03:20 | <RagnaRoC_> | I do live in FL after all |
| 03:20 | <RagnaRoC_> | was rather hot in this room |
| 03:20 | <thor_> | Where in FL? |
| 03:20 | <RagnaRoC_> | St. Pete |
| 03:20 | <thor_> | I was at a wedding on the Gulf Coast (Sanibel Island) last October |
| 03:21 | <RagnaRoC_> | Small world |
| 03:21 | <thor_> | Yup |
| 03:21 | <thor_> | Look into bigger CPU fan |
| 03:21 | <thor_> | Better PSU fan |
| 03:21 | <RagnaRoC_> | it is just werid...never had a prolem in all the years I had this thing before that prg |
| 03:21 | <thor_> | and/or RAM heatsink/fan |
| 03:21 | <RagnaRoC_> | right |
| 03:21 | <RagnaRoC_> | Indeed |
| 03:21 | <RagnaRoC_> | I will chheck it all out |
| 03:22 | <thor_> | ... sleep ... |
| 03:22 | <RagnaRoC_> | since I have to do something |
| 03:22 | <RagnaRoC_> | Ok man |
| 03:22 | <RagnaRoC_> | Get some rest |
| 03:22 | <RagnaRoC_> | hope the kiddy sleeps as well |
| 03:22 | <RagnaRoC_> | if they do not neither do you! |
| 03:22 | <RagnaRoC_> | so good luck |
| 03:22 | <RagnaRoC_> | :) |
| 03:23 | <RagnaRoC_> | Will see how many more times I can hard lock the system this morning |
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| 07:01 | <Viddy> | heh |
| 07:01 | <Viddy> | sols drunk |
| 07:01 | <Viddy> | silly solie |
| 07:01 | <Viddy> | mmmmm |
| 07:01 | <Viddy> | 30gig of mp3'z |
| 07:02 | <Viddy> | ...and xmms is still trying to load it all... |
| 07:02 | <Viddy> | oh shit |
| 07:02 | * Viddy | notes that he is in the wrong channel |
| 07:03 | * Viddy | apoligises, and backs away slowly |
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| 10:09 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 10:09 | <Chutt> | wintv-pvr-250 for $134 at directron |
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| 16:31 | <vektor> | Chutt: when you're around say hi. |
| 16:46 | <moegreen> | Chutt: I've got the delete screen done, http://untzuntz.com/mythtv/testing/playbackbox-delete.jpg |
| 16:46 | <PeteCool> | I had some shows which failed to record this week, they're passing again today |
| 16:47 | <PeteCool> | but they're greyed out in "fix conflicts" |
| 16:47 | <PeteCool> | where do I need to remove their info for them to be recorded again? oldrecorded? |
| 16:50 | <moegreen> | I think oldrecorded is the place to remove it |
| 16:51 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: is that stuff in CVS yet? |
| 16:51 | <PeteCool> | from the screenshot |
| 16:52 | <PeteCool> | looks great BTW |
| 16:52 | <moegreen> | no, I've still got to let the theme change the color |
| 16:53 | <moegreen> | it looks good on the darker themes, but the lighter themes it not quite as easy on the eyes |
| 16:53 | <mdz> | yes, you need to remove it from oldrecorded |
| 16:53 | <mdz> | eventually it will let you do that from the UI by selecting the program when it is grayed out |
| 16:54 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: the corners of the white boxes seem a little squared, though |
| 16:55 | <PeteCool> | it'll look better on a TV anyway |
| 16:55 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: that can all be modified easily - they are just png's that I threw together to have _omething_ |
| 16:55 | <PeteCool> | alright |
| 16:55 | <moegreen> | each theme will (eventually) be able to define their own png's and the entire layout of the page |
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| 22:26 | <Justin_> | about http://untzuntz.com/mythtv/testing/playbackbox-delete.jpg ... |
| 22:27 | <Justin_> | why couldn't that be for normal playback also? |
| 22:28 | <PeteCool> | Justin_: I think he already did that part |
| 22:28 | <PeteCool> | http://untzuntz.com/mythtv/testing/mythtv-playback1.jpg |
| 22:32 | <nziarek> | it was designed for playback; it migrated to the delete box. |
| 22:32 | <nziarek> | my question - can you delete an entire show series? |
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| 23:09 | <_shad> | mdz: around? |
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| 23:27 | <mdz> | _shad: yep |
| 23:29 | <_shad> | question |
| 23:30 | <_shad> | on your box have you seen many many mythfrontends/backends run at the same time? |
| 23:30 | <_shad> | A couple days ago I saw up to 100 backends |
| 23:30 | <_shad> | and today I saw over 20 frontends |
| 23:32 | <mdz> | when everything is idle, there are 2 frontend threads and 4 backend threads I believe |
| 23:33 | <mdz> | when something is recording, there will be an additional 4 backend threads |
| 23:33 | <mdz> | and when something is being played back, there will be 4 or so additional frontend threads |
| 23:34 | <_shad> | ok |
| 23:35 | <_shad> | I have like 60 backends running right now |
| 23:35 | <_shad> | wanna check it out? |
| 23:36 | <_shad> | and 7 frontends, and it's just sitting at the main screen |
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| 23:37 | <mdz> | paste me "ps aux" output in private messages |
| 23:37 | <mdz> | doesn't sound normal |
| 23:37 | <_shad> | more than a screenfull |
| 23:38 | <mdz> | are you sure you only have one frontend running |
| 23:38 | <_shad> | the mythfix account is still there |
| 23:38 | <_shad> | yep |
| 23:39 | <_shad> | need root? |
| 23:39 | <mdz> | so this machine is only running a backend |
| 23:39 | <_shad> | yep |
| 23:40 | <_shad> | and poo is the frontend |
| 23:40 | <mdz> | how many frontends are out there? |
| 23:40 | <_shad> | one |
| 23:40 | <mdz> | have you stopped and started the frontend or anything like that? |
| 23:40 | <mdz> | it probably spawns a thread for each frontend connection too |
| 23:40 | <_shad> | once I stop it, all the backends go away |
| 23:40 | <mdz> | once you stop the frontend? |
| 23:40 | <_shad> | yep |
| 23:40 | <_shad> | I've only had this frontend running for like 20 mins now |
| 23:41 | <mdz> | doesn't happen here |
| 23:41 | <_shad> | well, all the backends except for a couple |
| 23:41 | <_shad> | want me to exit out of the frontend now? |
| 23:41 | <mdz> | hold on |
| 23:41 | <_shad> | k |
| 23:41 | <mdz> | I need access to the mythtv account |
| 23:42 | <_shad> | ko |
| 23:42 | <_shad> | I'll change root passwd |
| 23:42 | <_shad> | there. same as before |
| 23:44 | <mdz> | you'll need to rebuild with debugging to see what's happening I think |
| 23:45 | <mdz> | the backtraces don't make sense |
| 23:45 | <_shad> | ok |
| 23:46 | <_shad> | I don't think I saw this stuff when I was using cvs |
| 23:50 | <_shad> | Gotta work tomorrow, so I'm gonna get some sleep. I'll see about debug mode monday |
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