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| 00:27 | <moegreen> | Bug report of the century: "Something broke, badly... |
| 00:31 | <mdz> | Joshua Bernstein is my new favorite mythtv-dev subscriber |
| 00:31 | <mdz> | "it didn't compile" |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | he's emailed me privately a few times |
| 00:31 | <mdz> | let me guess |
| 00:31 | <mdz> | bug reports? |
| 00:32 | <mdz> | "is mythtv broken?" |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | something about compiling it |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | i didn't pay much attention |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | ooh, neat, i just took down my mythtv box |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | trying to figure out if it's possible to overlay stuff on top of a widgets |
| 00:35 | <Chutt> | ok, so let's not run _that_ code again |
| 00:36 | <Chutt> | ah well, bedtime |
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| 00:38 | <bigguy> | heh Chutt always heads to bed just before you get here |
| 00:39 | <Timon> | ack |
| 00:39 | <Timon> | I was just going to comment on the new website. shocked the heck out of me :-) |
| 00:39 | <Timon> | Looks good though! Although, it looks just like all the other nuke sites out there :-) |
| 00:40 | <bigguy> | heh yeah |
| 00:41 | <Timon> | mdz, picked up a c++ book. Figured out what * and & are in english :-) |
| 00:41 | <bigguy> | what book did you get? |
| 00:42 | <Timon> | C++ from scratch. I actually borrowed it from a guy at work (I work at an IT whore shop) till my book comes in from half.com |
| 00:42 | <bigguy> | ah |
| 00:43 | <Timon> | Picked it up off half.com for $7 + $3.25 for s&h |
| 00:43 | * Timon | is a technology prostitue :-) |
| 00:43 | <bigguy> | I have several C books and Teach yourself C++ and a ORA C++ book |
| 00:43 | <Timon> | I hate the sams series of books. |
| 00:44 | <bigguy> | I got like 7 different C books from one of my old profs |
| 00:44 | <bigguy> | he gets them all the time for review |
| 00:44 | <Timon> | Picked up there "Linux Unleashed" book 7 or 8 years. Thats the most bug ridden book I've ever read. |
| 00:45 | <Timon> | You get them all the time? Buy them? you a book reviewer person? IT Whore? |
| 00:45 | <bigguy> | no I am an out of work loser |
| 00:45 | <Timon> | hahahaha |
| 00:46 | <Timon> | what did you do? |
| 00:46 | <bigguy> | I haven't had a tech job yet |
| 00:46 | <bigguy> | other than doing odd jobs for local people |
| 00:46 | <Timon> | Ahhh. |
| 00:46 | <Timon> | How old are you if you don't mind my askin? |
| 00:46 | <bigguy> | 26 |
| 00:47 | <Timon> | ok, you have a few years on me :-) |
| 00:47 | <bigguy> | I have worked for a few companies |
| 00:47 | <bigguy> | and I worked as a nursing aide |
| 00:47 | <bigguy> | but I am out of work now |
| 00:47 | <Timon> | dead people, eww :-) |
| 00:47 | <bigguy> | no |
| 00:48 | <Timon> | I know, I'm messin with you :-) |
| 00:48 | <bigguy> | nursing aide for my cuz |
| 00:48 | <Timon> | ahhh |
| 00:48 | <bigguy> | would love a tech job |
| 00:49 | <Timon> | tech jobs are great, but their is a lot of volitility |
| 00:49 | <bigguy> | It's just the ones I get offered are always somewhere else and don't include moving expenses |
| 00:49 | <Timon> | what part of country you in? |
| 00:49 | <bigguy> | Arkansas |
| 00:49 | <Timon> | <- Anchorage, Ak |
| 00:49 | <Timon> | hahaha, no tech jobs in hill-billy country :-) |
| 00:49 | <bigguy> | so as it stands now I am headed towards bankruptcy |
| 00:49 | * Timon | ducks |
| 00:49 | <Timon> | ouch |
| 00:50 | <bigguy> | Timon: we have a higher percentage of tech jobs than alot of states |
| 00:50 | <Timon> | Really? |
| 00:50 | <bigguy> | Timon: it's just I can't get any here |
| 00:50 | <Timon> | whys that? |
| 00:50 | <bigguy> | no one's hiring |
| 00:51 | <bigguy> | "We have no positions available at this time, sir. |
| 00:51 | <bigguy> | " |
| 00:51 | <Timon> | I remeber starting out in the tech industry. It sucks starting at the bottom. No one will hire you until you got skills, can't get skills till you get hired. |
| 00:51 | <Timon> | have you checked out flipdog.com? |
| 00:51 | <bigguy> | Timon: heh |
| 00:51 | <bigguy> | flipdog.com? nope |
| 00:51 | <Timon> | Click on option 2, don't register for their crap, you'll end up in spam central |
| 00:51 | <Timon> | You should check it out, its a help wanted agragator. |
| 00:52 | <Timon> | (option two is "find Jobs" |
| 00:52 | <Timon> | what part of ar you in? |
| 00:52 | <bigguy> | Southern |
| 00:52 | <Timon> | city/county? |
| 00:53 | <bigguy> | I'm looking :P |
| 00:53 | <Timon> | hehe, ok :-) 840 found in ar |
| 00:54 | <Timon> | I found 47 tech jobs in ar |
| 00:55 | <bigguy> | none in my area |
| 00:55 | <Timon> | :( |
| 00:55 | <bigguy> | I need money to move, and I have none |
| 00:55 | <Timon> | Whats the average wage down their? (Trying to get a comparison. Up here its around $50k/yr) |
| 00:56 | <Timon> | Credit cards :-) |
| 00:56 | <bigguy> | I was fine until I lost my job at ARC. Then I got behind on bills |
| 00:56 | <Timon> | Or commute |
| 00:56 | <bigguy> | I don't evn have a working vehicle of my own |
| 00:56 | <bigguy> | transmission went out on my car |
| 00:57 | <Timon> | :( |
| 00:57 | <bigguy> | and I'm in debt to creditors as it is |
| 00:57 | <Timon> | cars suck |
| 00:57 | <Timon> | what about unemployment? |
| 00:57 | <bigguy> | can't get it |
| 00:57 | <Timon> | whys that? |
| 00:58 | <bigguy> | I was getting cash from my uncle |
| 00:58 | <bigguy> | I was there for almost 2 years |
| 00:58 | <bigguy> | so last job on record would be ARC |
| 00:58 | <Timon> | I hate to say it, but mcdonalds is always hiring :( |
| 00:59 | <bigguy> | Timon: not around here :( I used to work there. once they get day people and closers it's hard to get rid of them |
| 00:59 | <bigguy> | BK just closed a while back |
| 01:00 | <bigguy> | Sonic will take apps but they only hire girls |
| 01:00 | <bigguy> | and thats pretty much it for this area |
| 01:00 | <Timon> | how big is the town your in? |
| 01:00 | <bigguy> | the one I live close to is only like 1000 people |
| 01:00 | <Timon> | man, thats tiny |
| 01:00 | <bigguy> | the one with mcdonalds and Sonic is like 25k |
| 01:01 | <Timon> | You guys have internet?!? (-: |
| 01:01 | <bigguy> | heh |
| 01:01 | <bigguy> | the 25k town has cable internet |
| 01:01 | <Timon> | cable modem rules. |
| 01:01 | <bigguy> | I can't get cable or dsl |
| 01:02 | <Timon> | Though I'm thinking about switching to DSL. Even though I hate pppoe and I hate the local telco even more. |
| 01:02 | <Timon> | what about starband? Satalite two way broadband |
| 01:03 | <bigguy> | I don't have the money for that |
| 01:03 | <bigguy> | my parent's pay for the dialup |
| 01:03 | <Timon> | :( |
| 01:03 | <bigguy> | I just moved back here a few months ago |
| 01:03 | <Timon> | I have to jet, the wife wants my "attention" :-) |
| 01:03 | <bigguy> | k |
| 01:03 | <bigguy> | later |
| 01:03 | <Timon> | l8r |
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| 11:56 | <dweezle37> | Is it possible to specify more than one directory for mythtv or mythmusic? |
| 11:56 | <Chutt> | no. |
| 11:56 | <dweezle37> | seems like this would be useful for music located on another file seerver.. you may want to nfs mount it |
| 11:56 | <Chutt> | that's higher level than what it needs |
| 11:57 | <dweezle37> | what do you mean? |
| 11:58 | <Chutt> | if you want to nfs mount something in addition to what you have, just symlink it into the existing music directory |
| 11:59 | <dweezle37> | i c ... Yea.. i spose that would work... |
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| 13:35 | <Chutt> | http://cvs.mythtv.org/mc/transtest.jpg |
| 13:35 | <Chutt> | just messin around with qt |
| 13:43 | <moegreen> | that could come in handy |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | it's a little flickery |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | well, the list view is |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | since it's clearing then redrawing the item |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | need to see if i could tie it in earlier for that, but.. |
| 13:44 | <moegreen> | how do you do it - setup a paint area? |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | i committed the code to cvs a little bit ago |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | it's all commented out |
| 13:45 | <moegreen> | heh, cvs.mythtv.org still has the old school site :) |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 13:46 | <Chutt> | i need to take the page down and replace it with a redirect to the real site |
| 13:46 | <moegreen> | is that code in the playbackbox.cpp? |
| 13:47 | <moegreen> | (found it) |
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| 13:48 | <toddm> | morning everyone |
| 13:48 | <Chutt> | moegreen, basically, it's just intercepting all the draw events for a widget, then drawing something on top of them when it's done |
| 13:48 | <Chutt> | howdy |
| 14:10 | <Chutt> | toddm, so, that progress bar i committed last night something like you all had in mind? |
| 14:10 | <toddm> | i haven't had a chance to check it out yet, just saw the commit this morning. |
| 14:16 | <mdz> | what are the Q frames in nuv? |
| 14:16 | <Chutt> | seek table |
| 14:16 | <mdz> | thanks |
| 14:21 | <toddm> | chutt, one thing, does the progress bar have a 'spinner' mode? |
| 14:21 | <toddm> | that'd be useful when loading large mame roms |
| 14:21 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 14:21 | <Chutt> | i just based it off of the qprogressbar stuff |
| 14:22 | <Chutt> | oh, wait |
| 14:22 | <Chutt> | it could |
| 14:23 | <toddm> | it looks like if you set qprogressbar total to 0 it shows up as busy, but i'm not sure that would be the same as a spinner. |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | right |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | i'm checking that out |
| 14:28 | <Chutt> | it bounces back and forth |
| 14:28 | <Chutt> | but you do have to tell it to update occasionally |
| 14:29 | <Chutt> | well, whenever you want it to move, actually =) |
| 14:34 | <toddm> | that sounds good. you could just set it up so each line xmame spits out until the last one which is "starting game" (or something similar) kicks the progress bar |
| 14:36 | <toddm> | i'll play around with it if i get some time tonight. |
| 14:36 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 14:38 | <toddm> | or maybe i can convince dan to actually do it since he's the one that's always been complaining about it. |
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| 14:49 | <toddm> | hi dan! |
| 14:49 | <dconti> | werd up t-dog |
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| 15:22 | <eli> | are startdata and enddate suppost to be "NULL" for programs scheduled to record in a certain time slot |
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| 15:50 | <mdz> | eli: yes, but it doesn't matter what they are, as they are ignored |
| 15:51 | <mdz> | eli: since it is recording based on the time only |
| 15:51 | <eli> | oh cuse its not recording anything set to record every day |
| 15:52 | <eli> | and i get a bunch of these from mythbackend if there is anything set to record ever day |
| 15:52 | <eli> | QDate::fromString: Parameter out of range. |
| 15:55 | <mdz> | those messages come from Qt 3.0, and are harmless |
| 15:55 | <eli> | oh, so why isn't it recording... |
| 15:55 | <mdz> | and there is some other reason why things are not being recorded as you expect |
| 15:55 | <eli> | hmm |
| 15:55 | <mdz> | works fine here |
| 15:58 | <eli> | even if you set up the recording in mythweb? |
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| 16:16 | <mdz> | eli: dunno about that; you need a pretty recent mythweb for it to work at all |
| 16:17 | <eli> | yeah its from cvs... |
| 16:17 | <eli> | trying to debug now.. |
| 16:20 | <mdz> | it may not be setting the type column correctly |
| 16:20 | <mdz> | what is it set to? |
| 16:20 | <eli> | 2 |
| 16:21 | <mdz> | that's a timeslot record, so that seems correct |
| 16:22 | <eli> | hmm it seems to be recording it now |
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| 16:23 | <[> | DB Error: recorded program insertion failed, SQL query was: |
| 16:23 | <[> | INSERT INTO recorded (chanid,starttime,endtime,title,subtitle,description) VALUES(1005,"20030227150000","20030227160000","Dr. Phil","","The doctor advises children and parents on how to deal with schoolyard bullies."); |
| 16:23 | <[> | Driver error was: |
| 16:23 | <[> | QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query |
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| 16:25 | <eli> | its in there now.. |
| 16:26 | <mdz> | it was probably there already, and that's why it failed |
| 16:26 | <eli> | yeah i think it was |
| 16:27 | <eli> | all this cuse i got in trouble cuse it didn't record "American Idiot" last night... |
| 16:28 | <eli> | i did actully mean to type Idol, it just came out that way |
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| 16:53 | <Viddy> | eli: mythtv now has artificial intelligence, and knows not to record programs that are bad for you - thats why it wouldn't insert in the db :) |
| 16:53 | <eli> | sweet |
| 16:54 | <eli> | i was looking for the line something like if ( Description = "reality tv" ) delete |
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| 16:59 | <Viddy> | aaahh |
| 17:00 | <Viddy> | this might be a problem: |
| 17:00 | <Viddy> | (1005,"20030227150000", <---- does the first one need "s around it? |
| 17:00 | <Viddy> | because the second one is a number as well, and has "" around it |
| 17:01 | <Chutt> | no, it doesn't |
| 17:01 | <Viddy> | doh |
| 17:01 | <Viddy> | :) |
| 17:05 | <Timon> | sup all |
| 17:06 | <Timon> | Chutt, the new website looks good! |
| 17:06 | <Timon> | I would like to see the font size a few points higher. Can't read that dang squintesimal font |
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| 18:10 | <Timon> | lively group tonight :-) |
| 18:10 | <toddm> | indeed |
| 18:11 | <toddm> | looks like everybody here has a bad case of the thursdays |
| 18:11 | <dconti> | oh todd. go polish your bling |
| 18:11 | <Timon> | haha, reminds me of a line from "Office Space" "Looks like someones got a case of the 'Mondays'" |
| 18:11 | <Timon> | bling? |
| 18:11 | <toddm> | bling! bling! |
| 18:13 | <Timon> | I have found the worse book every proof read. |
| 18:13 | <toddm> | has everyone heard that mr. rogers died today? |
| 18:13 | <toddm> | very sad news |
| 18:13 | <Timon> | C++ from scratch by Jesse Liberty. Horible proof reading |
| 18:13 | <Timon> | I know :( |
| 18:14 | <Timon> | I was saddened today when I read that. |
| 18:14 | <Timon> | I love mr rogers. |
| 18:14 | <Timon> | I just hope pbs keeps showing re-runs for a long time. I want my kids to be able to enjoy it! |
| 18:17 | <toddm> | i'm sure they will |
| 18:20 | <Timon> | I hope so |
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| 18:29 | <Soopaman> | ping pong |
| 18:32 | <Timon> | ding dong |
| 18:46 | <Viddy> | mr. rodgers? |
| 18:59 | <Timon> | Mr Rogers, from Mr Rogers Neighborhood |
| 19:08 | <Soopaman> | very very nice job on the website |
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| 19:15 | <Timon> | font needs to be a point size or two larger. |
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| 19:27 | <TheAsp> | hey chutt/mdz, how do you define what key does what in the frontend? |
| 19:27 | <TheAsp> | i want to add the i key to the view conflicts list |
| 19:28 | <TheAsp> | to pop up the recording info page |
| 19:31 | <mdz> | TheAsp: look around for 'Key_' |
| 19:32 | <TheAsp> | ok |
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| 19:33 | <TheAsp> | does deleting a schudled recording also delete it's conflict entry? |
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| 19:44 | <TheAsp> | ahh |
| 19:44 | <TheAsp> | about the keys |
| 19:45 | * TheAsp | grumbles about c++ |
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| 19:50 | * Timon | grumbles about pointers |
| 19:52 | <TheAsp> | mdz: do signal names have to be defiend anywhere? |
| 19:52 | <TheAsp> | or just where you connect it and emit it? |
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| 20:01 | <TheAsp> | obviously i need to declare it somewhere :P |
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| 20:14 | <TheAsp> | WOO! |
| 20:15 | <TheAsp> | it works! |
| 20:15 | <TheAsp> | ok, it's all tied into the else at the end of selected(), so it's triggered on enter and space |
| 20:16 | <TheAsp> | so if there isn't a conflict, and the show isn't set to be not recorded by a conflict, it will give you the info menu |
| 20:25 | <Timon> | haha, 3 of us posted the exact same answer to a question on the dev list |
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| 21:53 | <thor> | Chutt, you there |
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| 22:50 | <Soopaman> | hey chutt, mdz, you guys ever look at this linuxtv api? |
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| 23:51 | <Timon> | This channel is very lively! |
| 23:55 | <moegreen> | indeed |
| 23:56 | <Timon> | when do the pic's (People in charge) become active? |
