| 00:32 | <mdz> | Chutt: I think I'm confused about libmythtv |
| 00:33 | <mdz> | it's not clear to me what belongs there |
| 00:33 | <mdz> | I think that maybe I placed recordingprofile and videosource there incorrectly, and they should be in libmyth |
| 00:34 | <mdz> | or else some of the stuff in libmyth should move to libmythtv |
| 00:36 | <mdz> | is libmythtv meant to be purely capture functions then? |
| 00:51 | <pheller> | mdz: are you using a g[24]00-tv by chance? |
| 00:51 | <mdz> | pheller: no |
| 00:51 | <pheller> | okey dokey |
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| 00:56 | <PeteCool> | I have one simple question: what do you use to put the video output on your tv? |
| 00:56 | <PeteCool> | That part of the setup looks like a mess, from what I found in the mailing list archives |
| 00:57 | <PeteCool> | Is a vga->tv converter the only reasonable way? |
| 00:58 | <pheller> | I'm using a matrox marvel g400-tv right now, and it looks great. |
| 00:58 | <pheller> | however, I cannot seem to capture and playback with this card simultaneously, which is really pissing me off. :-) |
| 00:59 | <PeteCool> | do you thing a simple g400 would work, if I use another tuner? |
| 00:59 | <pheller> | I don't even know the capabilities of the g400 |
| 01:00 | <pheller> | if it has tv out, it'd probably work. |
| 01:06 | <pheller> | odd. mythtv runs fine standalone, however when called by mythfrontend, it isnt displayed, but can get keyboard focus by alt-tab, and keys work, etc. |
| 01:06 | <pheller> | any ideas? |
| 01:07 | <TheAsp> | what wm? |
| 01:07 | <pheller> | whatever is default with rh8/gnome |
| 01:07 | <pheller> | enlightenment maybe... |
| 01:08 | <TheAsp> | metacity probably |
| 01:08 | <pheller> | hmmh |
| 01:08 | <TheAsp> | sawfish does weird stuff with those windows if i swithc to another desktop and a window should appear, like the delete confirmation |
| 01:10 | <pheller> | ok, works with mwm, but mwm has font size issues |
| 01:12 | <TheAsp> | mwm has many issues :) |
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| 10:41 | <Chutt> | mdz, around? |
| 10:42 | <mdz> | Chutt: yep |
| 10:43 | <Chutt> | so, about the different libraries |
| 10:44 | <Chutt> | libmyth is supposed to be as tv-stuff free as possible =) |
| 10:44 | <Chutt> | so i think those things are good in libmythtv |
| 10:44 | <mdz> | hmm, ok |
| 10:45 | <mdz> | so the recording editing stuff needs to go in libmythtv too |
| 10:45 | <Chutt> | or the frontend |
| 10:45 | <Chutt> | if it doesn't need to be shared |
| 10:46 | <mdz> | since I assume this means that libmyth depending on libmythtv bits is a bad thing |
| 10:46 | <Chutt> | right |
| 10:46 | <mdz> | it is used by both the scheduler and the frontend |
| 10:46 | <Chutt> | why the scheduler? |
| 10:46 | <mdz> | hmm, no, I guess it's not there yet |
| 10:46 | <mdz> | but it has some stuff which would be useful to it |
| 10:46 | <mdz> | it encapsulates the logic for matching programs to a scheduled recording |
| 10:47 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 10:47 | <mdz> | which is done by both the epg and the scheduler |
| 10:47 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 10:47 | <mdz> | the epg bits which do that being in libmyth :-) |
| 10:47 | <mdz> | (programinfo) |
| 10:47 | <Chutt> | right |
| 10:48 | <mdz> | so I have a class which is needed by programinfo, scheduler and some frontend parts |
| 10:48 | <mdz> | being in libmyth, backend and frontend respectively |
| 10:49 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 10:49 | <mdz> | also, that class uses the recordingprofile stuff, because it keeps track of that too |
| 10:49 | <mdz> | recordingprofile being in libmythtv now |
| 10:50 | <mdz> | so the least evil seemed to be to move recordingprofile to libmyth |
| 10:50 | <Chutt> | that's messy |
| 10:50 | <mdz> | I'm open to suggestions :-) |
| 10:50 | <Chutt> | i'd have to see the code |
| 10:50 | <mdz> | there's nothing particularly TV-ish about recordingprofile really |
| 10:51 | <mdz> | it's just a bunch of config and db stuff |
| 10:51 | <mdz> | actually taking those and applying them as parameters for the encoding process is done in tvrec |
| 11:06 | <mdz> | Chutt: say, as long as you're writing free software, why not start a retail hardware business? |
| 11:06 | <mdz> | seems like a natural fit |
| 11:06 | <Chutt> | mdz, so diff your stuff |
| 11:06 | <Chutt> | lemme see :p |
| 11:06 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:06 | <mdz> | it's still working itself out; I don't need to resolve the organization stuff just yet. I'll send you a diff when I'm happy with how the new parts work :-P |
| 11:06 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 11:09 | <Chutt> | i've been pondering combining libNuppelVideo and libmythtv |
| 11:09 | <Chutt> | and moving the guidegrid stuff into libmythtv |
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| 11:23 | <mdz> | but a teeny tiny case is SO CUTE |
| 11:23 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:23 | <Chutt> | right |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | hey, run the backend |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | and use your webbrowser: http://localhost:6544/ |
| 11:30 | <mdz> | I noticed you put that in |
| 11:30 | <mdz> | why does everybody have to make their own pseudo-implementation of http? :-P |
| 11:31 | <mdz> | does it display any information yet? |
| 11:32 | <PeteCool> | mdz: is it you that said/wrote you had success with an all-in-wonder 7500? |
| 11:32 | <Chutt> | not yet |
| 11:33 | <Chutt> | bah, it's standard http, i just didn't want to put that data elsewhere |
| 11:34 | <mdz> | what does it do if I send a HEAD request to it? :-) |
| 11:34 | <Chutt> | absolutely nothin |
| 11:34 | <mdz> | probably close the socket immediately |
| 11:34 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 11:34 | <Chutt> | it should only close it after a get |
| 11:34 | <Chutt> | i believe |
| 11:34 | <mdz> | so it will hang? |
| 11:34 | <Chutt> | naw, it'll just say 'ok, whatever' |
| 11:35 | <Chutt> | and leak the socket object |
| 11:35 | <PeteCool> | mdz, you seem to know what you do, can I ask you what your MythTV comp is made of? |
| 11:36 | <mdz> | PeteCool: it's a PC in a desktop case |
| 11:36 | <mdz> | standard ATX |
| 11:38 | <mdz> | PeteCool: I use an all-in-wonder 7500 for output only |
| 11:39 | <PeteCool> | mdz: what tuner do you use? |
| 11:40 | <mdz> | PeteCool: a hauppauge wintv |
| 11:42 | <PeteCool> | mdz: thanks for the info :) |
| 11:43 | <mdz> | I do not recommend the all-in-wonder card unless you are interested in tinkering with it |
| 11:43 | <mdz> | it should be much easier to get tv out working with an nvidia or matrox card |
| 11:44 | <PhazE3> | I got TV-OUT working in about 5 minutes on a GeForce 2... I would reccomend that |
| 11:47 | <mdz> | Chutt: so you said that QHBox stuff was weird...what's the right way to do it? |
| 11:48 | <PeteCool> | the tv-out howto for the g200/g400 seems like lots of tinkering too |
| 11:48 | <PhazE3> | It is |
| 11:49 | <PhazE3> | PeteCool: I would suggest the GeForce series if you want an easy setup |
| 11:50 | <PhazE3> | Just plug in the tv out cable without a monitor and you have tv out |
| 11:50 | <PeteCool> | PhazE3: and you don't have stability problems with the nvidia drivers? |
| 11:50 | <PhazE3> | PeteCool: My box runs for months without problems |
| 11:50 | <PeteCool> | PhazE3: what kind of GF do you have? |
| 11:50 | <PhazE3> | Every computer I own has a nvidia card |
| 11:51 | <PhazE3> | PeteCool: Guillemont Hercules GeForce 2 Gts W/Tv-out |
| 11:51 | <PhazE3> | PeteCool: Like 50 bucks on EbaY |
| 11:52 | <mdz> | if the guidegrid moved into libmythtv, I think that would work out fine for my stuff |
| 11:53 | <mdz> | I'm a bit torn for the scheduled recording edit dialog |
| 11:53 | <mdz> | I'd like it to be similar to the infodialog stuff so that it's intuitive |
| 11:54 | <mdz> | but it can't really work the same way |
| 11:54 | <mdz> | because of the key bindings and the list box |
| 11:55 | <mdz> | unless it's a wizard with the list box on the first page, so there's nothing else to nav to |
| 11:55 | <Chutt> | the list box can be made to give up focus at the top and bottom, though |
| 11:55 | <mdz> | but then in order to give up focus, they'd have to change the setting to either the first or the last option :-) |
| 11:55 | <Chutt> | but, it'd still be weird |
| 11:56 | <Chutt> | you'd have to use l/r to switch things |
| 11:56 | <mdz> | right |
| 11:57 | <mdz> | also, do you think it's worthwhile to add something which would permit the user to delete recordings for which there is no program info? |
| 11:57 | <mdz> | like a timeslot recording for something that doesn't come on for the next week |
| 11:57 | <Chutt> | no program info? |
| 11:57 | <mdz> | that wouldn't show up in something like the conflict screen or the epg, so it would otherwise not be accessible |
| 11:57 | <Chutt> | well |
| 11:57 | <mdz> | obviously it wouldn't be possible to change the type of recording, only look at it and delete it |
| 11:57 | <Chutt> | i think the conflict screen for editing should show _everything_ that's selected for recording |
| 11:58 | <Chutt> | just the raw records, not when they're actually going to be recorded |
| 11:59 | <mdz> | that is possible |
| 11:59 | <mdz> | but I think it's nice to be able to grab a specific one, too |
| 11:59 | <mdz> | then it can be changed from a channelrecord to a timeslot or single record |
| 12:00 | <mdz> | and refer to that specific timeslot or program |
| 12:00 | <mdz> | like it works in the epg |
| 12:04 | <PhazE3> | Chutt: Would you be opposed to me starting a mythtv-hardware channel where you could direct all these people with hardware questions. I know that you and mdz get tired of answering stupid questions and I would be willing to help out. And it would reduce a little clutter in here |
| 12:05 | <mdz> | a general linux pvr hardware list might be a better idea |
| 12:05 | <mdz> | no need to associate it with mythtv at all |
| 12:05 | <PhazE3> | good idea... |
| 12:06 | <mdz> | ask Chutt, but it'd probably be ok to announce it to the mythtv list |
| 12:08 | <PhazE3> | Chutt: If your interested in out I set it up as #linuxpvr-hardware and let me know and I will shoot it to the list |
| 12:09 | <mdz> | I think a mailing list might be better |
| 12:11 | <PhazE3> | Yeah... Much better for tracking and archiving. I am gonna set one up _today_ and possibly a site? I want chutts appr before sending to the mythtv mailing list though |
| 12:11 | <mdz> | then it will be archived, and folks can find the information more easily |
| 12:12 | <PhazE3> | Maybe it can a lot of the cluter out of the mythtv mailing list... I get way to many emails a day. |
| 12:24 | <PeteCool> | also, a list of know good/great working hardware would be good |
| 12:25 | <PeteCool> | I can do an index if you send me your specs |
| 12:25 | <PeteCool> | It will reduce the clutter from the hardware mailing list :) |
| 12:28 | <PeteCool> | And you could send the url for that page with the hardware list introductory message |
| 12:32 | <PeteCool> | My idea doesn't seem very popular :( |
| 13:21 | <paperclip> | i like it.. |
| 13:22 | <paperclip> | since i had that idea myself =) |
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| 14:25 | <PeteCool> | paperclip: and did you do it? |
| 14:26 | <paperclip> | no.. i was sitting in the tub at the time.. |
| 14:26 | <paperclip> | which was yesterday afternoon |
| 14:26 | <paperclip> | tho i would be glad to help parse some data from the mail-list archive if you'd like.. =) |
| 14:27 | <paperclip> | i'd think a generic pvr hardware db would be nice.. |
| 14:27 | <PeteCool> | hmm, yea... |
| 14:27 | <PeteCool> | It'll be weird, though, because I didn't even build a pvr box yet :) |
| 14:27 | <paperclip> | me neither =) |
| 14:28 | <paperclip> | which is good.. since i'll be researching a lot of the stuff anyway.. |
| 14:28 | <paperclip> | may as well have public notes |
| 14:28 | <PeteCool> | yep |
| 14:29 | <PeteCool> | where might we host that list? on the mythtv sf account? |
| 14:29 | <PeteCool> | Who would we have to ask for that? |
| 14:31 | <paperclip> | well.. since it's a generic pvr hardware "survey" |
| 14:31 | <paperclip> | it's probably ok to put it just about anywhere =) |
| 14:31 | <paperclip> | i think sf will let you register for sites like that.. |
| 14:32 | <mdz> | "oh, you want me to do a little bit of work to get this feature that I want? in that case, forget it, I'd rather get a satellite" |
| 14:32 | <paperclip> | so you could get something like linux-pvr-hardware |
| 14:32 | <paperclip> | but i'd wait to see what phazE3 does.. |
| 14:32 | <Universe> | lol... nice |
| 14:32 | <paperclip> | or join/recruit him |
| 14:33 | <Universe> | mdz.. you want me to actually learn Linux before trying to get myth working... |
| 14:33 | <Universe> | i dont think so |
| 14:34 | <PeteCool> | Universe: myth isn't for the faint of heart.. yet? |
| 14:34 | <paperclip> | PeteCool: just from my lurking here.. i can say.. some people are going to have trouble with any/everything |
| 14:35 | <paperclip> | while others install it a few times a night just to tweak it.. |
| 14:35 | <Universe> | myth isn't a double click install |
| 14:35 | <Universe> | mdz... you can quote me on that one... heh.. |
| 14:37 | <PhazE3> | I will have something going _tommorow_ for sure... I got busy at work today and I am off tommorow :) |
| 14:37 | <paperclip> | PeteCool: for something like a hw database to be useful tho.. i'd think the new data collected .. like after the mailing list(s) are picked.. should be *very accurate* |
| 14:37 | <paperclip> | PeteCool: so a small script that grabbed some info like kernel/os/some pci info.. would be nice.. |
| 14:38 | <paperclip> | and formatted it in a nice xml file =) |
| 14:38 | <PeteCool> | paperclip: yeah, but too complicated for now |
| 14:38 | <paperclip> | not really.. |
| 14:38 | <PeteCool> | paperclip: over my current knowledge level :) |
| 14:39 | <PeteCool> | paperclip: what cards other than matrox g200/g400, all-in-wonder 7500 and geforce's are currently known working? |
| 14:39 | <paperclip> | for TV out? |
| 14:39 | <PhazE3> | there is a sis card that works... cant remember the model # |
| 14:40 | <PeteCool> | 315 with the 301 bridge |
| 14:40 | <PeteCool> | paperclip: yep |
| 14:40 | * paperclip | starts drawing up a flow chart for the info grabbing script |
| 14:41 | <paperclip> | PeteCool: sadly.. i've never used a TV card.. |
| 14:41 | <paperclip> | VGA -> TV works for some people.. |
| 14:41 | <paperclip> | i don't think i'd be able to sleep at night tho.. |
| 14:41 | <PhazE3> | But it usually looks like crap |
| 14:41 | <PeteCool> | paperclip: I already started writing something |
| 14:41 | * paperclip | nods |
| 14:42 | <paperclip> | PeteCool: for HW detection and reporting ? |
| 14:42 | <PeteCool> | The vga/tv converters (external boxes) work bad? |
| 14:42 | <PhazE3> | I have used 4 or 5 VGA->TV convertors but they all worked for crap |
| 14:42 | <PeteCool> | paperclip: no, just a list of hardware I read work |
| 14:43 | <paperclip> | PeteCool: great.. maybe there should just be a simple html table or list for now.. |
| 14:43 | <paperclip> | and then we can all decide on a database schema |
| 14:43 | <PeteCool> | paperclip: txt only for now... I'll give an url in a few minutes |
| 14:44 | <paperclip> | and then roll out the automagic detection |
| 14:44 | <paperclip> | and of course 4. profit =) |
| 14:44 | <paperclip> | i'm pretty sure there is some sort of hardware reporting stuff in debian.. |
| 14:45 | <PeteCool> | I don't think all mythtv users are using debian |
| 14:45 | <paperclip> | heh.. |
| 14:45 | <Universe> | they aren't :-) |
| 14:45 | <paperclip> | i doubt much of the code is debian specific.. |
| 14:46 | <paperclip> | i just want to lift parts of it.. |
| 14:46 | <Universe> | none of mythtv's card is debian specific |
| 14:46 | <Universe> | err myth's code |
| 14:46 | <paperclip> | I'm not using debian.. much anymore.. |
| 14:46 | <paperclip> | but i remember that hardware survey type package.. |
| 14:47 | <paperclip> | so forget i said debian =) |
| 14:48 | <paperclip> | i suppose any hardware that isn't detected could be hand edited by the submittor.. |
| 14:49 | <paperclip> | tho we should maybe mark it as hand edited.. |
| 14:50 | <PeteCool> | http://petecool.dyndns.org:8081/MythTV/pvrlist.txt |
| 14:50 | <PeteCool> | (very basic for now) |
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| 14:51 | <paperclip> | doesn't mythtv need alsa? |
| 14:51 | <PeteCool> | I'm not up to that part |
| 14:51 | <PeteCool> | in reading the docs |
| 14:52 | <paperclip> | heh.. well.. i'm not certain.. |
| 14:53 | <paperclip> | and that could have been an old requirement.. |
| 14:53 | <paperclip> | anyway.. i must go.. |
| 14:53 | <paperclip> | i'm always here.. |
| 14:53 | <paperclip> | so i'll be seeing you |
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| 14:54 | <PhazE3> | AverMedia TV98 Tv Tuner works well also |
| 14:54 | <PhazE3> | Sound card needs to be full duplex |
| 14:55 | <PeteCool> | even to only do recording, then playing back later? |
| 14:55 | <PeteCool> | would be weird |
| 14:56 | <PhazE3> | to playback and record at the same time |
| 14:56 | <PeteCool> | it's also needed for live-tv pausing, right? |
| 14:58 | <PhazE3> | it is need for live tv period |
| 14:59 | <PhazE3> | Live tv in MythTV is buffered. Therefore it is recording while your a watching |
| 15:00 | <PeteCool> | ok, I just didn't want to put any lies in there :) |
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| 15:01 | <PhazE3> | With my crystal audio sound I could record a show then watch it as long as nothing else was recording. |
| 15:02 | <PhazE3> | Then I switched to Ensoniq Audio Pci and everything worked right :) |
| 15:03 | <PhazE3> | Do you all get tired of "Well Xawtv works why doesn't Mythtv work" lol |
| 15:03 | <PhazE3> | Probably because Xawtv is not MythTV |
| 15:03 | <PhazE3> | lol |
| 15:04 | <PeteCool> | mplayer is used for playback right? |
| 15:06 | <PhazE3> | in myth? no |
| 15:06 | <PeteCool> | hmm |
| 15:06 | <PeteCool> | what does it use then? |
| 15:07 | <PhazE3> | Their own stuff Im pretty sure? Someone *Slap* me if im wrong |
| 15:07 | <PhazE3> | it using libav for encoding and decoding I think? |
| 15:09 | <PeteCool> | it's freevo that is using mplayer... my mistake |
| 15:09 | <PhazE3> | yeah freevo does |
| 15:09 | <PeteCool> | THey have some good graphics setup docs... |
| 15:10 | <PeteCool> | I'll point to that :) |
| 15:10 | <PhazE3> | I do not believe that freevo records yet? I dont even think it timeshifts |
| 15:11 | <PeteCool> | exactly |
| 15:11 | <PhazE3> | Plus they are asking for a cease and desist letter with a name like freevo |
| 15:11 | <PeteCool> | at least they took the time to make docs - though that time might have been better spent on coding at their current project state |
| 15:12 | <Universe> | Mythtv docs are good.... |
| 15:13 | <PhazE3> | Yeah they are... they even cover getting the requirements installed ex. XMLTV |
| 15:13 | <PeteCool> | Universe: even for setting up TV-out on vid-cards? that's the only thing I looked at in their docs :) |
| 15:13 | <PhazE3> | Thats not a mythtv issue. |
| 15:13 | <PhazE3> | Thats a hardware issue |
| 15:13 | <PeteCool> | PhazE3: but it can help |
| 15:13 | <Universe> | well... considering that is different for every hardware there is... |
| 15:14 | <PhazE3> | Mytv needs to Focus on Mythtv... Nvidia needs to focus on TV-OUT |
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| 15:14 | <Universe> | PeteCool... if you want to take on that task, I am sure Chutt will add that information into myth... otherwise... |
| 15:14 | <PhazE3> | And I am sure the docs mainter for myth does not have a bunch of video cards at his disposal |
| 15:15 | <PeteCool> | I already started noting some of the hardware that works |
| 15:15 | <Universe> | but noting that it worked for someone and didn't work for another isn't enough must of the time... |
| 15:16 | <Universe> | most people that would want something like that packaged with their PVR software wants how to, step by step walkthroughs, etc |
| 15:16 | <PeteCool> | Universe: If I add a link to how the guy made it work |
| 15:16 | <Universe> | becuase they are too lazy to look for themselves |
| 15:16 | <PeteCool> | then, it's different |
| 15:16 | <PeteCool> | if the guy doesn't want to make any effort, why should the devs? they're already making the whole app! |
| 15:16 | <Universe> | PeteCool... and the same why one person got it to work may not be the same for the next... |
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| 15:16 | <PhazE3> | Yeah but it is hard to get people to write howtos that are understandable by anyone |
| 15:17 | <Universe> | different hardware... different issues that might happen |
| 15:17 | <PhazE3> | yep |
| 15:18 | <Universe> | if you don't know how to troubleshoot basic problems in linux... you shouldn't even try to tackle something like this |
| 15:18 | <Universe> | making howto's will only feed the lazy people so far until they hit a basic linux issue and they come in here asking questions |
| 15:19 | <PhazE3> | Yeah but how did you learn how to troubleshoot in Linux... I learned by tackling projects... and getting things working |
| 15:19 | <Universe> | which, most if not all of us, will direct them to read and learn linux, which pisses them off... |
| 15:20 | <PhazE3> | yeah... When I got into Linux it was because I hated Windows and wanted to Learn it... Not because it was the cool thing to use.. That was like 5 years ago |
| 15:21 | <Universe> | exastly... a pvr shouldn't be your first experience with linux... |
| 15:21 | <Universe> | if it is... you will hate it.. |
| 15:21 | <PhazE3> | that is true |
| 15:21 | <PeteCool> | my first experience was setting up an ipchains/ipmasq router... |
| 15:21 | <Universe> | same here, PeteCool.. |
| 15:21 | <PeteCool> | was fu***n hard, but very worth it |
| 15:22 | <PhazE3> | my first was a workstation I setup.... My first problem was sound :) |
| 15:22 | <PeteCool> | now, if I can get tv-out working on my 8500, windows is gone |
| 15:22 | <PeteCool> | but, mythtv could remove that requirement =) |
| 15:22 | <Universe> | mythtv works perfectly... so... |
| 15:23 | <PeteCool> | Universe: I don't have the hardware yet |
| 15:23 | <Universe> | ahh |
| 15:23 | <PhazE3> | I started using hardware I already had so If I did not like it I would not have spent anything |
| 15:24 | <PeteCool> | I do have an unused celeron 1.1A with 512 megs ram here, but the tv in/out stuff is missing |
| 15:24 | <PhazE3> | To this point I have only spent about $100 |
| 15:24 | <PhazE3> | Get it working on a monitor to see if you like it |
| 15:25 | <PhazE3> | It is not for everybody... some people prefer to through their money at tivo :( |
| 15:25 | <PhazE3> | I like it because it gives me something to work on frequently |
| 15:25 | <PeteCool> | that's way too much money for a (somewhat) lazy student |
| 15:25 | <PeteCool> | yeah, that too |
| 15:25 | <PeteCool> | I like tweaking stuff... that's why I use gentoo everywhere |
| 15:25 | <Universe> | PhazE3... I have a tivo but wish I had the money to replace it with a myth box |
| 15:26 | <PeteCool> | Universe: you could sell it on ebay |
| 15:26 | <Universe> | but that wouldn't be enough to make the mythbox I want |
| 15:26 | <PhazE3> | I started out with a TiVo too :( Then switched to myth. |
| 15:26 | <Universe> | I have the first generation Tivo... |
| 15:26 | <Universe> | very small HD... |
| 15:26 | <Universe> | I have had it for years |
| 15:27 | <PhazE3> | I had a DirectTV *only* tv then I switched to cable |
| 15:27 | <PhazE3> | One of the dual lnb ones _even_ though they did not have software support for dual lnb's at that time |
| 15:28 | <PhazE3> | TiVo's are slow |
| 15:28 | <PhazE3> | Then menus take for ever |
| 15:28 | <Universe> | its not that bad on mine |
| 15:29 | <PhazE3> | Mine was terrible.... one time it took an hour to rearrange my season pass priority |
| 15:29 | <Universe> | wow |
| 15:29 | <PhazE3> | I know |
| 15:30 | <PhazE3> | I thought it was the unit untill I found out of friend of mines was the same way |
| 15:30 | <Universe> | how many season passes did you have? |
| 15:32 | <PhazE3> | like 25 |
| 15:34 | <PhazE3> | who did the pvrlist.txt? |
| 15:34 | <PhazE3> | the website they linked a bit ago? |
| 15:36 | <PhazE3> | PeteCool: Alsa is not a req that I know of. I have mytv working with oss |
| 15:36 | * PhazE3 | is away: The MonkeYs GoT me |
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| 16:12 | <PeteCool> | PhazE3: alright, I fixed that |
| 16:12 | * PhazE3 | is back (gone 00:36:02) |
| 16:12 | <PhazE3> | Cool |
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| 17:07 | <m0tion> | anyone here gotten LIRC working? |
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| 17:26 | <rkulagow> | yes, i've got lirc working (receive only though) |
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| 17:32 | <m0tion> | rkulagow: what kind of hardware? |
| 17:32 | <m0tion> | home-brew? |
| 18:09 | <yebyen> | yebyen@deskah:~$ uptime |
| 18:09 | <yebyen> | 18:08:17 up 16 days, 18:16, 3 users, load average: 0.94, 0.46, 0.34 |
| 18:09 | <yebyen> | HEH |
| 18:09 | <rkulagow> | no - ir receiver that came with my pinnacle card. |
| 18:09 | <yebyen> | i hope I don't have to reboot to install my IRMAN |
| 18:09 | <yebyen> | if it actually gets here |
| 18:09 | <yebyen> | i ordered one, and I don't see anything on my credit card statement online... |
| 18:09 | <yebyen> | no email confirmation |
| 18:10 | <yebyen> | their site was slow as balls at the time |
| 18:12 | <yebyen> | i'd say it's about a safe bet my order never went through |
| 18:12 | <yebyen> | heh |
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| 20:46 | <m0tion> | damn, lirc is a BITCH |
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| 22:03 | <jasongrichmond> | hey everyone |
| 22:05 | <jasongrichmond> | anyone here? |
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