| 00:00 | <mdz> | oh, good, it already does that right |
| 00:00 | <mdz> | don't think anyone's tested whether it still works since it was redone |
| 00:02 | <pheller> | does CVS update touch every file!? |
| 00:02 | <mdz> | nope |
| 00:03 | <pheller> | hmm.... looks like make is recompiling everything after your last update |
| 00:04 | <mdz> | are you sure that's all you got in your update? |
| 00:04 | <mdz> | there have been a bunch of other things tonight |
| 00:05 | <mdz> | bedtime |
| 00:06 | <pheller> | oh, hell, I didn't even pay attention. yeah, there was a bunch. |
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| 10:51 | <rkulagow> | Morning. Isaac, you there? |
| 10:53 | <rkulagow> | Isaac, can you resync the web page documentation to cvs again please? I've added some initial myth-0.8 instructions a few days ago, so hopefully it will cut down on folks discovering the hard-coded IP in backend_settings needs to be modified. |
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| 11:05 | <m0tion> | hey, i'm kinda confused, i'm browsing the CVS tree and there is no option to download a tarball |
| 11:05 | <m0tion> | it used to be in the lower-left corner if I remember correctly, but now it isn't there |
| 11:08 | <m0tion> | anybody know whats up? |
| 11:10 | <_shad> | yes |
| 11:10 | <_shad> | it's gone |
| 11:10 | <_shad> | it was taking up too much of chutt's bandwidth |
| 11:10 | <_shad> | use cvs and update :P |
| 11:10 | <m0tion> | oh |
| 11:11 | <m0tion> | are there any instructions for getting it using cvs? |
| 11:12 | <_shad> | somewhere :) |
| 11:12 | <_shad> | cvs -d :pserver:mythtv@cvs.mythtv.org:/var/lib/cvs login |
| 11:12 | <_shad> | cvs -z3 -d :pserver:mythtv@cvs.mythtv.org:/var/lib/cvs checkout MC |
| 11:14 | <m0tion> | do i need a password? |
| 11:14 | <_shad> | yep |
| 11:14 | <_shad> | mythtv |
| 11:15 | <m0tion> | werkz =) |
| 11:15 | <m0tion> | thanks |
| 11:15 | <_shad> | np |
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| 12:01 | <Chutt> | 'Great work otherwise.' |
| 12:07 | <_shad> | Yay |
| 12:07 | <_shad> | Lego Andy? |
| 12:07 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 12:07 | <_shad> | heh. I saw that |
| 12:07 | <Chutt> | that's just insulting |
| 12:07 | <_shad> | I agree |
| 12:10 | <_shad> | I haven't had time to play with mythtv lately :( |
| 12:11 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:12 | <_shad> | I have a hard choice... a digital camera or a new computer.. grr |
| 12:15 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:17 | <rkulagow> | Isaac, have you thought about setting up one of those Amazon wishlists or a paypal account? Who knows, maybe enough micropayments would add up? |
| 12:19 | <Chutt> | i'd feel funny accepting people's money |
| 12:19 | <Chutt> | i'm just doin this for fun |
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| 12:21 | <Chutt> | the docs on the website should be updated now |
| 12:21 | <_shad> | Chutt: I'll supply you software :) |
| 12:21 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:23 | <_shad> | Chutt: you play mame games? |
| 12:23 | <mdz> | morning |
| 12:23 | <Chutt> | not as often right now |
| 12:23 | <_shad> | Chutt: you have all of them? |
| 12:24 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 12:24 | <_shad> | heh. I think I'm missing 14 of them |
| 12:24 | <Chutt> | mdz, yo |
| 12:25 | <mdz> | lots of criticism on the mailing list this morning :-) |
| 12:25 | <Chutt> | yeah, like i said 'Great work otherwise.' |
| 12:26 | <rkulagow> | Well, as long as you're doing it for fun, "Great work otherwise." Is that going to be the new "in-joke"? |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | it's just annoying =) |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:28 | <_shad> | Chutt: start charging him for use :) |
| 12:28 | <rkulagow> | Isaac / MDZ, any thoughts on maintaining a "We know this doesn't work, don't complain about it unless you've got a patch" for myth-0.8? As an example, I ran into the same issue that Lego Andy got with the insert cursor jumping around when I was trying to change the path from /mnt/store to /var/video in the setup module. However, since I don't know enough about QT to fix it, I did't post anything to the list. |
| 12:29 | <Chutt> | well, i didn't know anything about that until last night =) |
| 12:30 | <mdz> | dunno why it does that |
| 12:30 | <mdz> | first I'd heard, too |
| 12:30 | <mdz> | does that actually happen? |
| 12:30 | <mdz> | oh, he's using the mouse |
| 12:30 | <mdz> | well wtf is that |
| 12:31 | <mdz> | it should filter mouse events |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | no, it happens with the keyboard as well |
| 12:31 | <rkulagow> | Hrmm. I get the problem with the left/right cursor keys. |
| 12:31 | <mdz> | you can't move around in the text box with the keyboard |
| 12:31 | <mdz> | oh, maybe in lineedit |
| 12:31 | <mdz> | not in the combobox though |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | right |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | the path names |
| 12:32 | <mdz> | well, not the video or audio device paths |
| 12:32 | <Chutt> | the other ones |
| 12:32 | <Chutt> | :p |
| 12:32 | <mdz> | dunno why it does that |
| 12:33 | <rkulagow> | I'll use cursor left to get to the /mnt/video, and hit "DEL" to get rid of "mnt". The cursor might delete one char, then jump to the end of the text. I usually have to highlight everything and delete and then just type it all in again. |
| 12:33 | <Chutt> | yeah, i dunno either |
| 12:33 | <mdz> | it passes that stuff straight through to qlineedit |
| 12:33 | <Chutt> | think it might be a circular signal |
| 12:34 | <Chutt> | the lineedit widget sends a signal to lineeditsetting |
| 12:34 | <Chutt> | which sends a 'settext' back to lineedit |
| 12:35 | <mdz> | what is he talking about "program icons"? |
| 12:35 | <mdz> | ah, that's probably true |
| 12:36 | <mdz> | we could fix mythlineedit so that it doesn't act so silly if settext is called with the same text that's currently in the box |
| 12:36 | <mdz> | because it's a pain otherwise; it's important that the lineedit get updated if the setting is changed |
| 12:37 | <rkulagow> | Q: on backend settings. Isaac, in the ML, you said "backend_settings.txt is only used by the backend server, not the frontend. |
| 12:37 | <rkulagow> | It's the address that's given to the client as what to connect to for |
| 12:37 | <rkulagow> | playback of files local to the backend server, and to connect to for live tv." How does the frontend find the backend if it doesn't use the backend_settings.txt file and it's on a different box? Broadcast? |
| 12:38 | <rkulagow> | Wait, let me check setup first and make sure that I'm not asking a dumb question. |
| 12:39 | <Chutt> | well |
| 12:40 | <Chutt> | the initial connection is just made to localhost |
| 12:40 | <Chutt> | that's hardcoded in the frontend for now |
| 12:41 | <Chutt> | there's two different connection types here |
| 12:41 | <Chutt> | which is why that ip address in backend_settings.txt is used |
| 12:41 | <Chutt> | the initial connection is supposed to be to the master server |
| 12:41 | <Chutt> | which handles all high-level requests for stuff |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | when it goes to do live-tv, or playback a file |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | though |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | it could be to a different backend server |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | so it uses that setting |
| 12:43 | <Chutt> | so the backend says to the frontend client 'here, connect to this server for live-tv' or 'the file you requested is on this server, that path' |
| 12:44 | <rkulagow> | OK, so there can be multiple back-end servers, but only one master. The front-end connects to the master back-end, which will then send it to the correct back-end. Did I get that right? |
| 12:44 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | though the multiple backend servers haven't been written yet |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | but the support for them in the frontend is all finished |
| 12:46 | <mdz> | hmm, qlineedit is already smart about when the text has not actually changed |
| 12:46 | <rkulagow> | Is that the reason for the ServerMode: Master in backend_settings? |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | does it change the cursor position, though? |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, yup, though it doesn't do anything yet =) |
| 12:46 | <mdz> | yes, whenever setText is called |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | backend_settings'll be gone soon, though |
| 12:47 | <rkulagow> | Got it, thanks. |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | and that'll go into the setup program |
| 12:47 | <mdz> | sucks to change it, though |
| 12:47 | <mdz> | I guess I could override setText and save/restore the cursor position |
| 12:47 | <mdz> | otherwise we need to fork qlineedit entirely |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | don't want to do that =) |
| 12:48 | <Chutt> | forking the wizard stuff was bad enough |
| 12:48 | <mdz> | save/restore looks easy |
| 12:49 | <Chutt> | override the slot, save the position, call the parent's slot, restore the position? |
| 12:50 | <mdz> | yeah...I don't think it can work right in all situations, though |
| 12:50 | <mdz> | like, what if the new text is shorter? |
| 12:50 | <rkulagow> | Isaac, do you remember the idea I had about self-organizing backends? Backend sends a broadcast to the local LAN saying, "I'm a back-end" every 5 seconds. Frontend listens for broadcasts. Multiple back-ends fight it out about who will be Master based on IP address or some other algorithm. |
| 12:50 | <mdz> | rkulagow: please, no :-) |
| 12:50 | <Chutt> | the master needs to do different stuff, though |
| 12:50 | <mdz> | rkulagow: let's not do NetBIOS |
| 12:50 | <Chutt> | like, it'll have the mysql server on it, nothing else needs one |
| 12:50 | <rkulagow> | OK, I'll stay out of the discussion for now so that you guys can figure out the settings stuff. |
| 12:51 | <Chutt> | mdz, only restore if the new length is the same as the old length |
| 12:51 | <Chutt> | or, hmm |
| 12:51 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 12:51 | <Chutt> | that won't work |
| 12:51 | <mdz> | it should work ok for the simple insert case |
| 12:51 | <mdz> | but not for replacing the selection or anything like that |
| 12:51 | <Chutt> | well, you can't replace without deleting first |
| 12:52 | <mdz> | er, no, it'll be wrong for insert too |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | why will it be wrong? |
| 12:52 | <mdz> | never mind |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | the cursor and the text should be set properly from when the user entered it |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | it's already changed it and all that |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | it's just changing it again =) |
| 12:52 | <mdz> | right |
| 12:53 | <mdz> | I did the save/restore thing and it behaves for inserts |
| 12:53 | <mdz> | hmm, also seems to work for changing the selection |
| 12:53 | <mdz> | hey, it all works |
| 12:54 | <Chutt> | great |
| 12:54 | <paperclip> | has anyone determined what the lowend CPU would be for use with the mjpeg cards? I just searched the list but didn't really find much.. |
| 12:54 | <Chutt> | well, a p3-550 can't playback full-sized mjpeg video |
| 12:54 | <paperclip> | ok.. |
| 12:54 | <Chutt> | that's the only datapoint i have |
| 12:54 | <mdz> | and as a bonus, it'll never select all the text |
| 12:54 | <mdz> | because moving the cursor deselects it |
| 12:54 | <paperclip> | i saw that it was working with the duron 650 w/96mb ram over nfs =) |
| 12:55 | <Chutt> | right, but probably not at full size |
| 12:55 | <paperclip> | hmm.. |
| 12:55 | <Chutt> | probably works at quarter size like it does on my p3 |
| 12:55 | <paperclip> | what's quartersize? |
| 12:55 | <Chutt> | 352x240 |
| 12:55 | <paperclip> | nice for VCD, eh? |
| 12:55 | <mdz> | selection is nice for the numeric entry boxes |
| 12:55 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:55 | <mdz> | but this should'nt affect those |
| 12:55 | <paperclip> | thanks.. |
| 12:56 | <mdz> | that is, if I ever get around to fixing that key entry problem with the spinboxes |
| 12:56 | <mdz> | would be nice to be able to key things in |
| 12:56 | <Chutt> | then you'd have to check for valid numbers and stuff |
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| 12:57 | <paperclip> | i think i'll order a matrox g200.. should be nice to have anyway =) |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | setting up the g200 was a pain in the ass |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | there's half a dozen different driver sets and crap |
| 12:57 | <paperclip> | the tv out? |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | and i haven't even used the tv out |
| 12:57 | <paperclip> | or just the card in general.. oh.. |
| 12:58 | <paperclip> | do any of the matrox tv cards do mjpeg and dual head? |
| 12:58 | <paperclip> | i recently set up xinerama and that would be nice =) |
| 12:58 | <Spark^> | quickie question: latest cvs seems to want lots more setting to be in the db, such as capturecard and channels, etc. which step have i missed (there's no longer a setup program, is there?). ie. what should i run before mythfilldatabase? |
| 12:59 | <mdz> | lego andy is infuriating |
| 13:00 | <mdz> | he called all of the configuration options, even the ones which can be graphically configured on-screen, "hardcoded" |
| 13:02 | <mdz> | checking for valid numbers would be easy |
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| 13:06 | * paperclip | is amazed how many people don't clip extranious info from their email replys.. |
| 13:06 | <mdz> | oh, you already yelled at him for the 'hardcoded' bit :-) |
| 13:06 | <paperclip> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=4546;search_string=matrox;guest=4784&t=search_engine#4546 <- perfect example |
| 13:07 | <rkulagow> | Gentlemen, ran into a problem doing a "from scratch" install. Compiled CVS, did a "drop database", then ran the mc.sql script. Went into setup/, did a ./setup: |
| 13:08 | <rkulagow> | would you like to clear settings, etc, before starting: y |
| 13:08 | <rkulagow> | pure virtual method called |
| 13:08 | <rkulagow> | Aborted |
| 13:08 | <rkulagow> | <prompt> |
| 13:08 | <rkulagow> | Known issue, or a rkulagow fuckup somewhere? |
| 13:09 | <mdz> | rkulagow: did you do 0-7-to-0-8.sql? |
| 13:09 | <mdz> | shouldn't cause that, of course |
| 13:09 | <mdz> | if you were building from a directory you used before, do a make clean before building |
| 13:10 | <rkulagow> | no; hold on. I thought that the mc.sql had incorporated all of the 0-7 changes. (I had dropped the old 0-7 mythconverg database before starting) |
| 13:10 | <mdz> | it has the 0.7 changes. it does not have all of the post-0.7 changes |
| 13:12 | <rkulagow> | Doing a make clean and seeing what's going on, then will re-run. I guess I thought that the mc.sql had the 0-7 to 0-8 changes (saw the "insert" for recording profiles at the end) |
| 13:13 | <mdz> | it's a mixed bag |
| 13:14 | <rkulagow> | OK, then my bad apparently. I'll let the compile finish, then go and update the HOWTO. Assuming a from scratch install, the sequence needs to be compile, database/mc.sql, database/0-7 to 0-8, setup. |
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| 13:21 | <Chutt> | what's missing from mc.sql? |
| 13:22 | <rkulagow> | I think that's a MDZ question (about what's missing from mc.sql), correct? |
| 13:22 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 13:22 | <Chutt> | i'm pretty sure i got everything in it when i updated last night |
| 13:24 | <rkulagow> | I'll let you know in a minute or two. I've done a make clean, and the make is running now. I'll drop the mythconverg database, then run mc.sql and see if setup aborts again. |
| 13:25 | <Chutt> | setup shouldn't abort like that because of a db problem |
| 13:26 | <rkulagow> | OK, running mc.sql adds 48 rows to mythconverg. Running 0-7 to 0-8 aborts: "ERROR 1060 at line 19: Duplicate column name 'hostname'" |
| 13:26 | <rkulagow> | I seem to remember it dropping 51 rows when I did the drop database mythconverg before starting. |
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| 13:28 | <rkulagow> | Actually, I just checked, and 54 rows were affected by the drop database command. |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | might have had some stuff setup already |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | i dunno =) |
| 13:40 | <rkulagow> | ok, setup; clear: y, Capture card, new capture card. Still aborts the same way. I'm going to try running the 0.7 mc.sql, then the 0.8 0-7 to 0-8 update script and see what happens. |
| 13:42 | <Chutt> | code problem, most likely |
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| 13:44 | <Chutt> | if you could run it in gdb, that might help |
| 13:44 | <pheller> | is this a seg fault problem in setup? |
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| 13:44 | <Chutt> | it's not a segfault |
| 13:55 | <rkulagow> | well, if I drop database, 0.7 version of mc.sql, 0.8 version of 0-7 to 0-8.sql and run setup: clear "y", it still gives the "virtual method" error when i add the new card. if i setup: clear:"n" it segfaults. I'll recompile with debugging and run in gdb next. |
| 13:56 | <Chutt> | thanks |
| 13:56 | <rkulagow> | ok, edited settings.pro, make clean; make is running now. |
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| 14:31 | <yebyen> | Chutt: i must not be much of a quality freak |
| 14:32 | <yebyen> | Chutt: my recordings are 400mb/hr and they're gorgeous |
| 14:32 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | you are using the tv as a display, right? |
| 14:33 | <yebyen> | yeah |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | definately helps |
| 14:33 | <yebyen> | if I weren't, i'd be pissier |
| 14:33 | <yebyen> | i ordered an irman |
| 14:34 | <yebyen> | had enough of tis remote with only 21 buttons |
| 14:34 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:34 | <Chutt> | my mythtv box doesn't have the cable hooked up at the moment |
| 14:34 | <Chutt> | no tv for me |
| 14:37 | <yebyen> | suckage |
| 14:37 | <yebyen> | i can record a shitton more now |
| 14:37 | <yebyen> | now that the average show is 200MB |
| 14:37 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 14:38 | <yebyen> | ok, shit |
| 14:38 | <yebyen> | my laptop's 512mb of ram and 256mb swap is filling up |
| 14:38 | <yebyen> | something is leaking memory |
| 14:38 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 14:38 | <yebyen> | and i'm pretty sure it's Xft2 |
| 14:39 | <Chutt> | mdz, ok, i can't figure out how to easily set the hostname in the capture card stuff |
| 14:39 | <yebyen> | *closes galeon and watches memory usage go down to 20% |
| 14:40 | <yebyen> | Chutt: is 0.8 still a long way off? |
| 14:40 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 14:40 | <Chutt> | not too much more to do |
| 14:40 | <yebyen> | elite |
| 14:46 | <yebyen> | 118 messages! |
| 14:46 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 14:46 | <yebyen> | mythtv-dev |
| 14:58 | <rkulagow> | well, don't you hate when that happens? i recompiled with debugging on, and now setup _doesn't_ crash with the "virtual method" call. If I run straight from the command line, it _does_ crash with the same "virtual method" error. |
| 14:59 | <rkulagow> | this is with the database/mc.sql from 0.8 CVS. |
| 15:00 | <rkulagow> | Same thing happens if I use the 0.7/mc.sql and the 0.8 0-7 to 0-8 update script after dropping the database. |
| 15:01 | <rkulagow> | meaning, if doesn't crash if I do a $ gdb ./setup (run) versus $ ./setup |
| 15:09 | <rkulagow> | chutt, mdz, I've got a backtrace on that virtual method error. paste it here, email, or send to list? |
| 15:09 | <Chutt> | just paste it here |
| 15:10 | <rkulagow> | here we go: this is with the 0.8 cvs version of mc.sql. |
| 15:10 | <rkulagow> | |
| 15:10 | <rkulagow> | [mythtv@pvr setup][mythtv@pvr setup]$ mysql -u root |
| 15:10 | <rkulagow> | Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. |
| 15:10 | <rkulagow> | Your MySQL connection id is 56 to server version: 3.23.52 |
| 15:10 | <rkulagow> | |
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| 15:10 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:11 | <rkulagow> | yeah, cute. |
| 15:11 | <rkulagow> | the abort happens after I go to define a capture card and do "new card" |
| 15:12 | <Chutt> | you didn't manage to paste the backtrace |
| 15:12 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 15:12 | <rkulagow> | I didn't? I think trillian doesn't like me then. |
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| 15:13 | <Chutt> | ok, email it to me |
| 15:13 | <rkulagow> | ok, that's annoying. i'm going to send the text file to you Isaac. |
| 15:14 | <rkulagow> | just mailed it from my rocketmail account. |
| 15:34 | <rkulagow> | Isaac, did you receive the email? |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | yeah, sorry |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | was away for a minute |
| 15:40 | <rkulagow> | no proble, just wanted to make sure that I didn't crash yahoo/rocketmail the same way that I've been crashing trillian when I attempt to paste in the bug report. :-) |
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| 16:15 | <Spark^> | is anyone else experiencing tv_grab_na being called during setup when it shouldn't be (ie. when i'm set to tv_grab_uk)? i think i've tracked down the function/class that's being called, btu can't figure out why... probably due to not understand qt well enough |
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| 16:48 | <mdz> | Chutt: couldn't you just call gethostname? |
| 16:48 | <mdz> | Chutt: or are you talking about how to get it into the db? |
| 16:50 | <Chutt> | how to get it into the db |
| 16:51 | <mdz> | lego andy is doing us the great favor of a backtrace |
| 16:51 | <mdz> | if and when he gets around to it |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | yes, i noticed |
| 16:51 | <mdz> | until then, we are on our own |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | i can't wait |
| 16:51 | <mdz> | dunno what we're going to do until then |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | probably leave it be |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 16:52 | <mdz> | check mail really often I guess |
| 16:52 | <Chutt> | and just because robert here started writing docs, it means that cvs is suddenly not development |
| 16:52 | <Chutt> | at least, no more under development than the last release |
| 16:57 | <yebyen> | ol |
| 16:57 | <yebyen> | err, lol |
| 16:57 | <yebyen> | is that sarcasm? i haven't used cvs, so I don't know :) |
| 16:57 | <yebyen> | well, successfully |
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| 17:40 | <mdz> | hmm |
| 17:40 | <mdz> | qmake's "make clean" isn't very clean |
| 17:41 | <yebyen> | how bout make distclean? |
| 17:41 | <mdz> | it should at least get rid of *.a and *.so.* |
| 17:41 | <mdz> | a regular clean should remove everything created by the build |
| 17:41 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 17:42 | <yebyen> | dunno |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | make distclean removes the targets |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | make clean just removes the object files |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | mdz, if you get a chance, could you see if tv and stuff still work for you? |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | i finally got around to doing the libavcodec update |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | with all the direct rendering junk |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | i'm not doing some of it right, but =) |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | everything seems to work for me, at least |
| 17:44 | <mdz> | that's a silly distinction for clean and distclean |
| 17:45 | <mdz> | I'm doing a new build now, I'll go and and install it then |
| 17:45 | <Chutt> | thanks |
| 17:45 | <Chutt> | wasn't too hard, there's now a 'release buffer' |
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| 17:46 | <Chutt> | that we could use to make sure that it's not drawing the osd on something that's still needed |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | but i'm just ignoring it for now, basically |
| 17:47 | <mdz> | I added the hostname to the capturecard stuff |
| 17:47 | <mdz> | about to commit it |
| 17:48 | <mdz> | I guess the capturecardeditor should probably only show cards on the local host |
| 17:48 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 17:48 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 17:48 | <mdz> | haven't done that yet |
| 17:48 | <Chutt> | no prob, nothing else for the multiple encoder boxes is done either, really =) |
| 17:52 | <mdz> | does setup break for you if you try to edit the same capturecard twice? |
| 17:53 | <mdz> | I'm not sure what's going on there, I get some weird stack traces |
| 17:53 | <Chutt> | yes |
| 17:53 | <mdz> | one of them seems to be infinitely recursing |
| 17:53 | <mdz> | #5 0x402fd1f5 in QBoxLayout::setupGeom () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| 17:53 | <mdz> | #6 0x402fc01d in QBoxLayout::minimumSize () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| 17:53 | <mdz> | #7 0x402c222d in QLayout::totalMinimumSize () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| 17:53 | <mdz> | #8 0x402c0bfe in QLayoutItem::heightForWidth () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| 17:53 | <mdz> | #9 0x402c152a in QWidgetItem::minimumSize () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| 17:53 | <mdz> | #10 0x402fd2f5 in QBoxLayout::setupGeom () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| 17:53 | <mdz> | and so on |
| 17:53 | <Chutt> | probably related to robert's pure virtual error =) |
| 17:54 | <mdz> | a libqt3-mt-dbg would be nice |
| 17:54 | <Chutt> | something's missing a configWidget() |
| 17:54 | <mdz> | heh, stack frame #17655 is mythtv |
| 17:55 | <mdz> | I made configWidget not pure virtual anymore in my last commit |
| 17:55 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 17:55 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 17:55 | <mdz> | since it's OK for stuff not to have a configWidget if it's not visible |
| 17:56 | <mdz> | should be easy enough to set a breakpoint there if something is hitting that |
| 17:56 | <mdz> | whoa, it's blowing up in showFullScreen() |
| 17:56 | <mdz> | that's the qt entry point in that recursive crash |
| 17:57 | <mdz> | is something getting added with itself as parent or something? |
| 17:57 | <Chutt> | where it's drawing all the widgets and stuff |
| 17:57 | <Chutt> | why would it work once, though? |
| 17:57 | <mdz> | dunno |
| 17:57 | <mdz> | sometimes it happens the first time |
| 17:57 | <mdz> | just now it did |
| 17:58 | <mdz> | different stack though |
| 17:58 | <mdz> | #0 0x0064002f in ?? () |
| 17:58 | <mdz> | #1 0x4009f552 in VerticalConfigurationGroup::configWidget (this=0xbffff440, |
| 17:58 | <mdz> | cg=0x0, parent=0x80eaad8, widgetName=0x0) at settings.cpp:93 |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | the pure virtual stuff |
| 17:58 | <mdz> | in an empty configuration group |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | it's calling something that doesn't exist |
| 17:59 | <mdz> | it's dying inside the loop over the children in VerticalConfigurationGroup::configWidget |
| 17:59 | <mdz> | but gdb says that children.size() is 0 |
| 17:59 | <mdz> | so that shouldn't have even run |
| 18:00 | <mdz> | time for a distclean maybe |
| 18:03 | <Chutt> | oops |
| 18:03 | <Chutt> | i was supposed to clean up a little |
| 18:06 | <mdz> | something seriously weird is happening |
| 18:06 | <mdz> | it's in that loop with i=1 and children.size()=0 |
| 18:08 | <Chutt> | is children.size() == 0 before the loop as well? |
| 18:09 | <mdz> | checking that now |
| 18:10 | <mdz> | no, it isn't |
| 18:10 | <mdz> | maybe gdb is just confused |
| 18:10 | <mdz> | though the inside of the children object sure looks like an empty one |
| 18:11 | <mdz> | I'm pretty sure this used to work |
| 18:25 | <mdz> | it doesn't seem to happen with the cardinput dialog at all |
| 18:26 | <mdz> | which is very similar to the capturecard dialog |
| 18:26 | <mdz> | and it only happens randomly in capturecard |
| 18:30 | <mdz> | hmm, I think I found it |
| 18:30 | <mdz> | nope |
| 18:31 | * yebyen | notes that he has a 4 hour seinfeld marathon waiting for him |
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| 19:19 | <rkulagow> | Hi guys, segfault on setup. I'll mail the backtrace to Isaac. Action: make clean, make distclean, make, make install, drop database, mc.sql |
| 19:19 | <rkulagow> | gdb ./setup, run, clear: y, ENTER, ENTER (segfault) |
| 19:19 | <mdz> | send the backtrace to the list |
| 19:19 | <mdz> | it's probably in my stuff anyway |
| 19:20 | <rkulagow> | problem is that when I paste, trillian crashes, and it doesn't get sent to the list. mdz@debian.org ok? |
| 19:21 | <rkulagow> | Matt, is that a good email for you? |
| 19:24 | <mdz> | rkulagow: thanks for the update to the docs :-) |
| 19:24 | <mdz> | rkulagow: yeah, that email is fine |
| 19:24 | <mdz> | rkulagow: I meant the mailing list, not the channel, but sending it to me is fine |
| 19:25 | <rkulagow> | ok, just sent it to you and Isaac from my rocketmail account. |
| 19:30 | <mdz> | ok, this is the same crash that I've been puzzling over for a while |
| 19:30 | <mdz> | someone also reported it to the list recently |
| 19:31 | <rkulagow> | ok then, my bad. wasn't sure if it was a known issue yet. |
| 19:32 | <rkulagow> | Anything you'd like to know about the system, libs, etc? |
| 19:32 | <mdz> | a couple of people have reported it to the list as well |
| 19:32 | <mdz> | not really...I am easily able to reproduce it here |
| 19:32 | <mdz> | I just don't know what's causing it |
| 19:32 | <rkulagow> | OK. |
| 19:32 | <mdz> | if you can find a system where it's *not* happening, I'd like to know what libs are on it |
| 19:33 | <mdz> | but my assumption so far is that it is a mythtv bug |
| 19:33 | <mdz> | it surely worked before |
| 19:33 | <mdz> | I think maybe Chutt broke it :-P |
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| 19:34 | <TheAsp> | live tv seems to be working ok |
| 19:36 | <rkulagow> | Hrmm. Problem is that I've got a Mandrake 9.0 mono culture here in the house. Got a PIII/733, dual Celeron 450 and PIII-M; I'll check the Celeron box, but I doubt that it's going to be CPU dependant. |
| 19:39 | * TheAsp | adjusts the osd fontsize |
| 19:50 | <mdz> | Chutt: maybe something isn't getting destroyed properly... |
| 19:52 | <mdz> | I can reproduce the bug just by instantiating a cardinputeditor, doing an edit, destroying it, creating a new one, and trying to do an edit there |
| 19:53 | <mdz> | er, a capturecardeditor |
| 19:55 | <mdz> | seems to happen with cardinputeditor eventually, but not nearly as often |
| 19:55 | <mdz> | it takes 10 or so iterations |
| 20:00 | <TheAsp> | let me guess, notification that recording is going to start while watching livetv is currently broken . . . :P |
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| 20:12 | <mdz> | somebody figure out what is causing this crash, fix it, and send me the patch |
| 20:12 | <mdz> | sincerely, mdz. tx. |
| 20:18 | <TheAsp> | he |
| 20:23 | <mdz> | Chutt: it happens even if I take all of the configWidget calls out and fill it with QLabels instead |
| 20:24 | <mdz> | or even just one QLabel |
| 20:34 | <mdz> | aha! |
| 20:35 | <rkulagow> | is that a good "aha", or a reference to the one-hit wonder? |
| 20:35 | <mdz> | it's the setInsideMargin call |
| 20:35 | <mdz> | well, the problem goes away when I take it out anyway |
| 20:35 | <mdz> | but I see no reason why it should be incorrect to have it there |
| 20:35 | * TheAsp | blames qt |
| 20:38 | <mdz> | it sure looks like a qt bug |
| 20:42 | <mdz> | rkulagow: I just committed a workaround, can you test? |
| 20:44 | <rkulagow> | Sure. Also, I've got another error; don't know if it's related to the one that we've been troubleshooting. If setup doesn't segfault when the card is defined, if you go back in to edit the card that you just created, it will segfault. Want the backtrace for that email to you and Isaac? |
| 20:46 | <rkulagow> | OK, just did a checkout. make clean and make distclean are done, and the make is running now. |
| 20:52 | <yebyen> | hm, mythbox is about to hit 2 weeks of uptime |
| 20:52 | <yebyen> | in 3 hours |
| 20:56 | <mdz> | rkulagow: that's the same bug |
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| 21:00 | <rkulagow> | ok. just re-ran twice, and I don't get the crash anymore. I'm able to go back into the capture card dialog and edit my sound capture rate. |
| 21:00 | <TheAsp> | strange error flushing buffer ... OH NO! :P~ |
| 21:01 | <mdz> | rkulagow: that matches what I see |
| 21:01 | <mdz> | I only figured it out by trial and error |
| 21:01 | <rkulagow> | Next issue: defined a source called "cable". grab_na worked, and gave me the correct provider. However, when I go to associate a source with an input, (I'm doing Television->Cable), "cable" is available twice in the drop down. |
| 21:01 | <mdz> | what drop down? |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | the video source drop down? |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | are you sure you only have one video source named 'Cable'? |
| 21:02 | <rkulagow> | Associate input with source screen: video source. Choices are (None) the default cable, cable. |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | there's no check for duplicates presently, I don't think |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | the video source menu should show them all; you can also check the database |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | select * from videosource |
| 21:03 | <rkulagow> | Well, this is a clean build, no previous database should exist since I've been dropping mythconverg; |
| 21:05 | <rkulagow> | ok; there's only one "cable" on the video source screen; I've got (Define new video source) and cable listed there. However, when I go to associate /dev/video (Television), the "Video Source" drop down has None, cable, cable. |
| 21:07 | <Chutt> | mdz, was there any reason you're using boxes instead of layouts for those vertical/horizontal groups? |
| 21:08 | <rkulagow> | Well, no more troubleshooting for me tonight; see you tomorrow. |
| 21:08 | <mdz> | Chutt: boxes instead of layouts? |
| 21:08 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 21:08 | <Chutt> | nm |
| 21:09 | <Chutt> | i meant for stuff like the comboboxsetting |
| 21:09 | <mdz> | it's a boxlayout inside a groupbox; I think I used a groupbox to provide a label |
| 21:09 | <Chutt> | how it uses a qhbox, then packs the label and the combobox inside of it |
| 21:09 | <mdz> | now that the label is optional, I guess you could forget the groupbox altogether if there is no label |
| 21:10 | <mdz> | oh, that |
| 21:10 | <mdz> | because it was the first thing I ever used Qt for? :-P |
| 21:10 | <Chutt> | ah, ok |
| 21:10 | <mdz> | qhbox seemed like the right tool |
| 21:10 | <Chutt> | i just had to do that setStretchFactor() stuff |
| 21:10 | <mdz> | but I don't entirely understand the difference |
| 21:10 | <Chutt> | well, the layout's more dynamic |
| 21:10 | <mdz> | Chutt: any idea why setinsidemargin broke the world? |
| 21:10 | <Chutt> | no idea |
| 21:10 | <mdz> | that was a huge pain to find |
| 21:10 | <Chutt> | yeah, sorry |
| 21:11 | <mdz> | not your fault it broke everything :-) |
| 21:11 | <Chutt> | going to respond to that guy that just independently reported it? |
| 21:11 | <mdz> | which one? |
| 21:11 | <mdz> | there have been about 3 :-) |
| 21:11 | <Chutt> | j.r. hyde |
| 21:11 | <mdz> | I already responded to a couple |
| 21:14 | <mdz> | hmm, removing that margin call made things a little ugly |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | that's why it was there =) |
| 21:14 | <mdz> | that sucks |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | i'll try to pretty it up a little |
| 21:14 | <mdz> | the default should be to leave enough space for the label |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | i think it does, but it doesn't take the font size into account |
| 21:14 | <mdz> | are you running qt from unstable, or some unofficial stuff? |
| 21:15 | <Chutt> | unofficial 3.1 debs compilied against g++ 3.2 |
| 21:16 | <Chutt> | i believe they're the same as what's in unstable |
| 21:16 | <Chutt> | just compiled with the different compiler |
| 21:17 | * TheAsp | drools over 3.2 qt debs... |
| 21:17 | <mdz> | ok |
| 21:18 | <mdz> | will QLabel do word wrap? |
| 21:18 | <Chutt> | yup, if you tell it to |
| 21:18 | <Chutt> | check out the help text stuff in mythwizard |
| 21:18 | <Chutt> | it helps to give the label the exact sizes you want, else it does weird things when it wraps sometimes |
| 21:19 | <mdz> | Qt::WordBreak? |
| 21:19 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 21:19 | <mdz> | I just want to add a little label for the other grabbers saying that it will run something in the terminal to configure it |
| 21:19 | <TheAsp> | what property sets the menu font for the exit menu? |
| 21:20 | <TheAsp> | fontsize that is... |
| 21:20 | <Chutt> | the medium fontsize |
| 21:20 | <Chutt> | the same size is used pretty much everywhere |
| 21:20 | <TheAsp> | in osd.txt? |
| 21:21 | <Chutt> | which exit menu? |
| 21:21 | <TheAsp> | the one that asks if you want to save position, etc |
| 21:21 | <Chutt> | oh, different one =) |
| 21:21 | <TheAsp> | *nod* |
| 21:21 | <TheAsp> | i made the fonts small so they fit in the boxes |
| 21:21 | <TheAsp> | but now the menu looks like crap :) |
| 21:22 | <TheAsp> | i'm running at 512x384 |
| 21:22 | <Chutt> | it uses the info_font size |
| 21:23 | <Chutt> | infotextfontsize |
| 21:23 | <TheAsp> | doh. |
| 21:25 | <TheAsp> | well, ill have to wait till next time im not recording to see if 13 works... |
| 21:37 | <TheAsp> | i changed channel and fastforwarded/rewinded a bunch today in live tv |
| 21:37 | <TheAsp> | seemed stable |
| 21:37 | <TheAsp> | slow fastforward/rewind though |
| 21:37 | <Chutt> | i think it's possible to mess it up fast forwarding off the end sometimes, though |
| 21:37 | <mdz> | Chutt: oh, btw, I'm running current CVS now |
| 21:37 | <Chutt> | haven't really looked into it yet, should be something simple |
| 21:37 | <mdz> | nothing obviously broken |
| 21:37 | <TheAsp> | off the end of livetv? |
| 21:37 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 21:37 | <Chutt> | theasp, yeah, past 'now' |
| 21:38 | <TheAsp> | didnt seem to affect me |
| 21:51 | <mdz> | argh, conflicts |
| 21:51 | <Chutt> | oops |
| 21:51 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 21:51 | <mdz> | mumblemumble semicolons :-) |
| 21:51 | <Chutt> | yeah, he's anal about that |
| 21:51 | <mdz> | is that actually necessary? |
| 21:51 | <Chutt> | no |
| 21:51 | <mdz> | I was pretty sure it wasn't in the API |
| 21:51 | <mdz> | only in the CLI |
| 21:51 | <Chutt> | but, i figure it keeps him happy |
| 21:51 | <mdz> | heh |
| 21:52 | <Chutt> | and he has contributed some decent stuff |
| 21:52 | <Chutt> | hah |
| 21:52 | <Chutt> | remember that linuxdvrnews guy? |
| 21:53 | <mdz> | yeah |
| 21:54 | <Chutt> | he posted to the freevo list that he's going to use it because python makes more sense for such a project than c |
| 21:54 | <mdz> | he's right |
| 21:54 | <mdz> | python makes more sense for a menu like freevo |
| 21:54 | <mdz> | which is apparently what he wants |
| 21:54 | <Chutt> | they've got a very rudimentary recording setup now, i think |
| 21:55 | <Chutt> | a scheduler thing in python that's cronned to run every minute or something like that |
| 21:55 | <mdz> | so it will launch mencoder at the specified time? |
| 21:55 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 21:55 | <mdz> | python is totally reasonable for that |
| 21:55 | <mdz> | whether that is a reasonable approach to implementing a PVR is another question |
| 21:56 | <Chutt> | what conflicted? |
| 21:56 | <mdz> | setup/main.cpp |
| 21:56 | <Chutt> | oh, you had some other change that you hadn't checked in yet? |
| 21:56 | <mdz> | I had deleted the entire function containing your edit :-) |
| 21:56 | <mdz> | yeah |
| 21:56 | <Chutt> | ahh |
| 21:56 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 21:57 | <mdz> | amazingly, your commits to settings.pro didn't do any harm |
| 21:57 | <mdz> | I had the same thing of course |
| 21:58 | <mdz> | and so it merged it in with the "already contains the changes..." message |
| 21:58 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 21:58 | <mdz> | and I would have expected that the second commit would wipe out my change |
| 21:58 | <mdz> | but somehow it was smarter than that |
| 21:58 | <Chutt> | it knows its a local change |
| 21:58 | <mdz> | I thought the "already contains" bit would disregard it as a local change, since it went into the repository |
| 21:59 | <mdz> | wow, bunch of patches queued up |
| 21:59 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 21:59 | <Chutt> | that's everything, except the two button channel change stuff |
| 21:59 | <mdz> | oh, some of those are me |
| 21:59 | <Chutt> | which i don't really like |
| 21:59 | <mdz> | seems like it could be done better |
| 21:59 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 22:00 | <mdz> | what do you think about setup prompting and then running mythfilldatabase? |
| 22:00 | <mdz> | I kinda prefer to run it separately, but I may not be a typical user |
| 22:00 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
| 22:00 | <Chutt> | i'd prefer to keep it separate as well |
| 22:00 | <mdz> | but if it prompts, maybe that's best all around |
| 22:02 | <mdz> | I think the label for the fixedaspectration thing should be more descriptive |
| 22:02 | <Chutt> | the help text can be |
| 22:03 | <Chutt> | i'm still surprised no-one's asked about i18n |
| 22:04 | <mdz> | heh, what would you say if they did? |
| 22:04 | <mdz> | I'm guessing you're not a gettext fan |
| 22:06 | <Chutt> | qt's got a bunch of that all built in, apparently |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | geez |
| 22:10 | <mdz> | the only thing that's still bugging me in the setup stuff is the lack of any way to exit |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | 1500 messages this month |
| 22:10 | <mdz> | I'm surprised nobody's whined about it yet |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | can't you force on the allow exit stuff? |
| 22:10 | <mdz> | I mean it's totally unprofessional |
| 22:11 | <mdz> | does that work with escape? |
| 22:11 | <Chutt> | hup |
| 22:11 | <Chutt> | err, yup |
| 22:11 | <mdz> | oh |
| 22:11 | <Chutt> | either plain escape, or with a modifier key |
| 22:11 | <mdz> | oh, I misread the test |
| 22:11 | <mdz> | I thought it was killable && modifier |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | or just call themedmenu->setKillable() |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | like the music stuff does |
| 22:12 | <mdz> | yep, I'll do that |
| 22:15 | <mdz> | do you keep a mythtv todo list anywhere? |
| 22:15 | <mdz> | something lower-level than what's on the website? |
| 22:15 | <Chutt> | not right now |
| 22:15 | <Chutt> | i used to have one written down, but it's old |
| 22:16 | <mdz> | I have a nagging feeling there were some other things I meant to fix in the frontend setup |
| 22:16 | <Chutt> | everything on it's done |
| 22:16 | <mdz> | I know there are a couple of new things in settings.txt that need to go in |
| 22:16 | <Chutt> | oh, check out settings.txt |
| 22:16 | <Chutt> | and theme.txt |
| 22:16 | <Chutt> | everything left in there is not in the ui |
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| 22:16 | <mdz> | does the xinerama stuff only affect the Xv window, or everything? |
| 22:16 | <Chutt> | everything |
| 22:16 | <mdz> | yeah, I noticed you committed a change to it |
| 22:17 | <mdz> | and that there were things still in there |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | should probably decide which settings are going to be host-based |
| 22:18 | <mdz> | are you planning to do per-host stuff for 0.8? |
| 22:21 | <mdz> | theme.txt still seems to have everything in it |
| 22:22 | <TheAsp> | chutt: how hard would it be to put a "system status" screen in the player? |
| 22:22 | <mdz> | I think all that stuff excetp epgtype is in there |
| 22:22 | <TheAsp> | thats hows whats being played, whats beging recorded, free space, etc... |
| 22:23 | <mdz> | Chutt: so that should just be a checkbox, "use alternative epg layout"? |
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| 22:25 | <Chutt> | theasp, planning on it for the master backend server |
| 22:26 | <Chutt> | mdz, yes, for 0.8 =) |
| 22:26 | <Chutt> | and yea, just a checkbox for it |
| 22:26 | <Chutt> | oh, i left the theme in since stuff broke if it wasn't set is all |
| 22:26 | <Chutt> | and themeqt and guiwidth/he |
