| 00:01 | <bigguy> | don't remember it started a thread in the mailing list tho |
| 00:02 | <bigguy> | bogged down Chutt's connection a bit |
| 00:02 | <brtb> | the one last week? |
| 00:02 | <brtb> | i'll look around when i'm at work tomorrow then |
| 00:02 | <mdz_> | I guess I should add myself to the AUTHORS file |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | i forget to update that sometimes |
| 00:04 | <bigguy> | brtb: k cool |
| 00:04 | <mdz_> | I can record and playback at the same time with ~17-20% idle CPU |
| 00:04 | <mdz_> | at 640x480 |
| 00:04 | <mdz_> | but live TV pretty much leaves me with nothing |
| 00:04 | <mdz_> | I wonder if that difference will change with the new stuff |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:06 | <Chutt> | the general settings and stuff don't touch the db yet, do they? |
| 00:18 | <bigguy> | http://www.uq.edu.au/education/extra/all.html |
| 00:18 | <bigguy> | scary |
| 00:21 | <ian2> | prolly like the nice warm electronics |
| 00:23 | <bigguy> | yeah but Au has the most poisoness snakes |
| 00:24 | <bigguy> | it would make you wanna look carefully before you stick your hand inside to fix your system ;) |
| 00:35 | <Chutt> | very carefully |
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| 01:58 | <ian2> | has mythweb had anymore work since the .7 release? |
| 02:00 | <moegreen> | ian2: I believe someone is working on it |
| 02:01 | <ian2> | k, just wondering if any help was needed |
| 02:02 | <moegreen> | i have forgotten who though... |
| 02:02 | <Chutt> | lichen, in here |
| 02:02 | <moegreen> | Chutt: I sent a fix for the extra arrow problem |
| 02:03 | <ian2> | u asking or is lichen working on web? |
| 02:03 | <Chutt> | yeah, i'm testing that now |
| 02:03 | <Chutt> | ian2, he's the guy working on it |
| 02:03 | <ian2> | k, thanks |
| 02:04 | <Chutt> | moegreen, well, there's no longer excessive arrows =) |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | but it doesn't seem to put all the arrows on that it should be |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | it's missing some right pointing ones |
| 02:09 | <moegreen> | Chutt: heh, try changing the 5 on the line: lastTime = firstTime.addSecs(DISPLAY_TIMES * 60 * 5); --- to a 4 lastTime = firstTime.addSecs(DISPLAY_TIMES * 60 * 4); |
| 02:11 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | that seems to have fixed it =) |
| 02:12 | <moegreen> | Excellent |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | nice work, btw |
| 02:13 | <moegreen> | thanks |
| 02:13 | <moegreen> | i noticed you cut down the length of some of the lines - I tend to use a very wide terminal window :) |
| 02:14 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 02:14 | <Chutt> | 80x24 |
| 02:14 | <moegreen> | 114x50 hehe |
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| 02:20 | <Chutt> | all those (int) casts are because g++ 3.2 is anal about converting floats to ints automatically |
| 02:21 | <moegreen> | I was wondering about that too |
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| 02:36 | <brtb> | bigguy - i haven't been able to find that bt878-picture-quality post, if you find it would you let mwe know? tks |
| 02:36 | <bigguy> | brtb: will do |
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| 03:31 | <Chutt> | mdz, all the config dialogs are now "myth"-like =) |
| 03:31 | <Chutt> | except the wizard looks a little ugly |
| 03:31 | <Chutt> | silly qt widgets with subwidgets as private data |
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| 04:50 | <knight_> | hey, anyone around who might be able to help me? |
| 04:50 | <ian2> | me, so prolly not |
| 04:50 | <ian2> | whats your problem? |
| 04:52 | <knight_> | well, i'm aving problems getting the mythtv binary to run after proper doc guided setup |
| 04:52 | <knight_> | having |
| 04:53 | <knight_> | it's complaining about my DSP evne though i have it set in settings.txt |
| 04:53 | <knight_> | Cannot open DSP '', dying. |
| 04:53 | <knight_> | Could not detect audio blocksize |
| 04:53 | <knight_> | Segmentation fault |
| 04:53 | <ian2> | u using alsa? |
| 04:53 | <knight_> | yes |
| 04:53 | <knight_> | alsa emu10k1 |
| 04:54 | <ian2> | hmm, unless something is locking it i have no idea |
| 04:54 | <ian2> | but ive only been playing with mythtv for 2 days so. . .might want to ask tomorrow when someens around |
| 04:54 | <knight_> | =[ |
| 04:55 | <knight_> | it also seems that the database doesnt have the settings.... it has data, but no settings specifically |
| 04:55 | <knight_> | which might be the problem. perhaps it's not fully checking settings.txt and is only looking in the db |
| 05:03 | <matr1x> | you think youre so smart |
| 05:03 | <matr1x> | but youre not |
| 05:03 | <matr1x> | its evil gremlins |
| 05:16 | <knight_> | heh |
| 05:19 | <knight_> | matr1x, you got mythtv working ye? |
| 05:19 | <knight_> | yet |
| 05:19 | <matr1x> | haven't even tried |
| 05:19 | <knight_> | ahh |
| 05:19 | <knight_> | i'm rather uneased at mine :) |
| 05:19 | <matr1x> | uneased? |
| 05:20 | <knight_> | it's not working, and i'm uneased |
| 05:20 | <knight_> | not really upset, but my mood is definately slightly altered. heh |
| 05:27 | <knight_> | heh |
| 05:32 | <matr1x> | have you got all the right versions of programs compiled? |
| 05:32 | <matr1x> | cannot open DSP eh |
| 05:32 | <matr1x> | hmm |
| 05:33 | <matr1x> | could merely be a permissions thing |
| 05:33 | <knight_> | yeah |
| 05:34 | <knight_> | no it's not a perms |
| 05:34 | <knight_> | i'm running it as root |
| 05:34 | <ian2> | snd deamon or something? |
| 05:35 | <knight_> | nope |
| 05:35 | <knight_> | xmms works well :) |
| 05:36 | <matr1x> | but thats the thing |
| 05:36 | <matr1x> | what sound daemon is loaded |
| 05:36 | <knight_> | nothing i suppose |
| 05:37 | <knight_> | i havent used sound on linux in years |
| 05:37 | <matr1x> | kde has one by default |
| 05:37 | <ian2> | xmms->preferences->output plugin |
| 05:38 | <knight_> | oh, well i'm in kde |
| 05:38 | <matr1x> | and kde sounds are working? |
| 05:38 | <knight_> | indeed |
| 05:38 | <matr1x> | and you logged into kde as root? |
| 05:38 | <ian2> | arts |
| 05:38 | <matr1x> | yah arts |
| 05:38 | <matr1x> | thats the one |
| 05:38 | <ian2> | can arts and try it |
| 05:39 | <knight_> | yes, i'm in KDE as rot |
| 05:39 | <knight_> | root |
| 05:39 | <matr1x> | did you set the audiodevice setting? |
| 05:40 | <ian2> | xmms prolly works cause your just playing, but myth needs full duplex |
| 05:40 | <knight_> | yes, audiodevice is set to /dev/dsp |
| 05:40 | <matr1x> | ah |
| 05:40 | <matr1x> | kill arts |
| 05:40 | <matr1x> | then try |
| 05:41 | <matr1x> | it probably thinks its in use cause of arts |
| 05:42 | <knight_> | so i wont be able to use KDE sounds at the same time as myth i take it |
| 05:42 | <ian2> | umm prolly not |
| 05:42 | <ian2> | is that really a problem? |
| 05:42 | <knight_> | ok i killed artsd but mythtv stlil wont load |
| 05:42 | <knight_> | no |
| 05:42 | <matr1x> | worth a shot |
| 05:43 | <knight_> | oh shit |
| 05:43 | <ian2> | haha |
| 05:43 | <knight_> | /dev/dsp points to /dev/sound/dsp which doesnt even exist |
| 05:43 | <ian2> | u said xmms works? |
| 05:44 | <knight_> | yes |
| 05:44 | <knight_> | also |
| 05:44 | <knight_> | even after killing artsd, i can still hear KDE sounds |
| 05:44 | <ian2> | whats xmms point to? |
| 05:44 | <knight_> | let me check |
| 05:44 | <knight_> | it's set to "Default" |
| 05:44 | <matr1x> | heh |
| 05:44 | <knight_> | which doesnt tell me what it is |
| 05:45 | <knight_> | greyed out is /dev/dsp |
| 05:45 | <ian2> | default is dev/dsp |
| 05:45 | <knight_> | but thas for USE ALTERNATIVE |
| 05:45 | <matr1x> | dev/audio? |
| 05:46 | <knight_> | hmmm actually now xmms isnt working |
| 05:46 | <matr1x> | well at least now youre onto something |
| 05:46 | <matr1x> | is your sound card loaded? |
| 05:46 | <knight_> | why would my snd modules get rid of that /dev/sound/dsp? |
| 05:46 | <knight_> | yes |
| 05:46 | <knight_> | KDE makes hte noises :) |
| 05:46 | <knight_> | and my modules are all loaded |
| 05:47 | <knight_> | didnt artsd provide the dsp? |
| 05:48 | <matr1x> | i guess so |
| 05:48 | <matr1x> | restart kde |
| 05:48 | <matr1x> | see if that changes anything |
| 05:48 | <knight_> | i've rebooted, restarted, etc many times |
| 05:49 | <matr1x> | yah but now im here so do it again |
| 05:49 | <knight_> | even when xmms and my dsp exists, i still cant get it to work |
| 05:49 | <knight_> | ok |
| 05:50 | <knight_> | ok restarted |
| 05:50 | <matr1x> | so /dev/dsp and /dev/sound/dsp are there? |
| 05:51 | <knight_> | no now i dont hear the kde sounds |
| 05:51 | <knight_> | ls: /dev/sound/dsp: No such file or directory |
| 05:51 | <knight_> | ok i ran the alsasound init.d |
| 05:51 | <knight_> | restart |
| 05:51 | <knight_> | still nothin |
| 05:52 | <matr1x> | how peculiar |
| 05:52 | <ian2> | hmm this might be negative progress |
| 05:52 | <knight_> | indeed |
| 05:53 | <matr1x> | hmmm |
| 05:53 | <knight_> | how did my /dev/sound/dsp disappear? |
| 05:54 | <matr1x> | is artsd loaded? |
| 05:55 | <knight_> | yes |
| 05:55 | <matr1x> | and mythtv still doesnt load |
| 05:55 | <knight_> | correcyt |
| 05:55 | <matr1x> | same error |
| 05:57 | <knight_> | same |
| 05:57 | <knight_> | Cannot open DSP '', dying. |
| 05:57 | <knight_> | Could not detect audio blocksize |
| 05:57 | <knight_> | Segmentation fault |
| 05:58 | <matr1x> | '' |
| 05:58 | <matr1x> | hmm |
| 05:58 | <matr1x> | whats that about |
| 05:58 | <knight_> | right |
| 05:58 | <knight_> | so like i said very first thing |
| 05:58 | <knight_> | i'm thinking it's not properly reading settings.txt to get the settings |
| 05:58 | <matr1x> | is it formatted correctly? |
| 05:58 | <knight_> | because in the database, the table settings is empty too |
| 05:58 | <knight_> | yes |
| 05:59 | <knight_> | i changed almost nothing in the settings.txt |
| 05:59 | <ian2> | i dont think it reads settings from the db |
| 05:59 | <knight_> | ian2, it does |
| 05:59 | <knight_> | according to the comments in settings.txt |
| 05:59 | <knight_> | # Record settings (these are now pretty much all in the database -mdz) |
| 06:00 | <knight_> | but regardless: |
| 06:00 | <knight_> | # Audio settings |
| 06:00 | <knight_> | # |
| 06:00 | <knight_> | # dsp device -- output only |
| 06:00 | <knight_> | str AudioDevice=/dev/dsp |
| 06:00 | <knight_> | so shouldnt we see the device name in those single quotes? |
| 06:01 | <knight_> | i.e. Cannot open DSP '/dev/dsp', dying. |
| 06:06 | <knight_> | i just modprobe's snd-pcm-oss to load the dsp back up |
| 06:07 | <knight_> | xmms is working again |
| 06:07 | <knight_> | testing mythtv again |
| 06:08 | <knight_> | same error |
| 06:22 | <matr1x> | whats your sample rate at |
| 06:23 | <matr1x> | are you sure its using your config file? |
| 06:26 | <knight_> | i'm not sure of anything |
| 06:26 | <knight_> | heh |
| 06:27 | <knight_> | it doesnt output enough |
| 06:36 | <matr1x> | where is your config file located? |
| 06:36 | <matr1x> | is there a command to force the use of a config file? |
| 06:36 | <knight_> | heh |
| 06:36 | <knight_> | no |
| 06:37 | <knight_> | the setings file is /usr/local/share/settings.txt then you run the setup program |
| 06:37 | <knight_> | that injects your settings into the db too |
| 06:37 | <knight_> | etc |
| 06:37 | <matr1x> | well somethings fucked up somewhere |
| 06:40 | <knight_> | indeed |
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| 07:19 | <knight_> | hmm |
| 07:19 | <knight_> | still doesnt work |
| 07:19 | <knight_> | hmm no .20 |
| 07:19 | <knight_> | damn |
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| 08:49 | <knight_> | hmm |
| 08:52 | <knight_> | viper root # mythtv |
| 08:52 | <knight_> | Probed: /dev/video0 - Television |
| 08:52 | <knight_> | Probed: /dev/video0 - Composite1 |
| 08:52 | <knight_> | Probed: /dev/video0 - S-Video |
| 08:52 | <knight_> | ERROR opening file '/mnt/store/ringbuf.nuv' in ThreadedFileWriter. |
| 08:52 | <knight_> | Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 08:52 | <knight_> | Segmentation fault |
| 08:52 | <_shad> | mnt/store doesn't exist |
| 08:54 | <knight_> | ahhh fixed that |
| 08:54 | <knight_> | now how do i enable Xv support? |
| 08:54 | <_shad> | what kind of video card do you have? |
| 08:54 | <knight_> | Voodoo3 |
| 08:55 | <_shad> | in X, type xvinfo |
| 08:55 | <_shad> | what do you see? |
| 08:55 | <knight_> | checking |
| 08:55 | <knight_> | viper root # xvinfo |
| 08:55 | <knight_> | Xlib: extension "XVideo" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 08:55 | <knight_> | xvinfo: No X-Video Extension on :0 |
| 08:55 | <_shad> | hmm |
| 08:56 | <_shad> | which driver are you using for X? |
| 08:56 | <knight_> | hmm |
| 08:57 | <knight_> | Driver "tdfx" |
| 08:57 | <_shad> | hmm |
| 08:58 | <_shad> | what version of X? |
| 08:59 | <knight_> | XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System |
| 09:00 | <_shad> | do you have DRI enabled, and stuff in the kernel also? |
| 09:01 | <knight_> | well |
| 09:02 | <knight_> | whats the line for enabling it? |
| 09:02 | <_shad> | I have no idea |
| 09:02 | <_shad> | heh |
| 09:02 | <_shad> | I have a banshee |
| 09:02 | <_shad> | and it just works |
| 09:03 | <_shad> | send me your XF86Config-4 |
| 09:03 | <knight_> | ok |
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| 09:06 | <_shad> | Try that |
| 09:06 | <_shad> | :) |
| 09:06 | <knight_> | what did you change? |
| 09:06 | <_shad> | added modules and crap |
| 09:06 | <knight_> | ok |
| 09:06 | <_shad> | I had more than double that you had |
| 09:06 | <_shad> | than. |
| 09:06 | <_shad> | heh |
| 09:07 | <knight_> | ok let me restart X... hang on |
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| 09:08 | <_shad> | k |
| 09:08 | <knight_> | alright! |
| 09:08 | <knight_> | now all i need to do is get it outputting to svideo |
| 09:08 | <_shad> | :) |
| 09:08 | <knight_> | do you know how to do that? |
| 09:09 | <_shad> | heh |
| 09:09 | <_shad> | no idea |
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| 09:09 | <knight_> | heh |
| 09:10 | <_shad> | maybe you just need to set it to a supported reas |
| 09:10 | <_shad> | res.. |
| 09:10 | <_shad> | if you can get composite out to work, svideo will |
| 09:11 | <knight_> | well |
| 09:11 | <knight_> | i |
| 09:11 | <knight_> | i dont even know how to specify which output |
| 09:11 | <_shad> | You shouldn't have to |
| 09:11 | <_shad> | it should go to both |
| 09:11 | <knight_> | hmm |
| 09:12 | <knight_> | dont i have to specify it as a desktop or something? |
| 09:12 | <_shad> | the diff between composite and svideo is that composite has all data going through one pin, and svideo has R G and B going through seperate ones |
| 09:12 | <knight_> | yeah i know |
| 09:12 | <_shad> | Idunno |
| 09:12 | <_shad> | :) |
| 09:12 | <knight_> | but i have to turn it on and associate it with a desktop |
| 09:13 | <_shad> | sourceforge.net/projects/tvout-manager/ |
| 09:13 | <_shad> | try that |
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| 09:22 | * _shad | goes to school |
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| 09:31 | <knight_> | hmm |
| 09:39 | <knight_> | gotta figure out how to get my svideo going |
| 09:46 | <knight_> | hmmm |
| 09:46 | <knight_> | also, mythtv doesnt mute the input |
| 09:46 | <knight_> | when it closes |
| 09:46 | <knight_> | hmm |
| 09:53 | <lichen> | you're supposed to leave the input muted |
| 09:54 | <lichen> | plug the line out from the capture card to the line in of your soundcard, mute line in, put it up to 100% and turn capture on for it |
| 10:04 | knight_ | knight__ Dec 09 10:05:02 <mdz> knight_: why are you installing the CVS version? |
| 10:05 | <mdz> | if you are installing from scratch, especially if you are having problems, use 0.7 |
| 10:22 | <lichen> | when chutt says he applies patches by hand, does he literally just copy and paste the lines where they should go? or is it a slightly more automated "by hand" |
| 10:23 | <mdz> | I assume that 'by hand' means 'without patch(1)' |
| 10:25 | <lichen> | seems like a lot of tedious work thats prone to errors for those big diffs :( |
| 10:30 | <mdz> | it gives him a chance to merge it the way he wants it, I assume |
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| 11:36 | <mdz> | why is everyone always complaining about mythtv's dependencies? they are not at all difficult to fulfill |
| 11:45 | <brtb> | because installing all the perl modules for xmltv is kinda annoying... nothing too bad though |
| 11:46 | <mdz> | but they're all CPAN-able |
| 11:46 | <brtb> | right |
| 11:47 | <brtb> | which is why i said not too bad. probably confuses people when xml::twig needs expat and then bombs, though |
| 11:47 | <brtb> | still isn't the fault of mythtv |
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| 12:07 | <tinsley> | was that guy lying about the aiw7500 working |
| 12:07 | <Chutt> | yes |
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| 12:31 | <lichen> | how many of you guys like the idea of an option in the main mythweb menu that lists all the movies playing over the course of the next 5 days or so? i've determined the problem with grant taylors patch and have corrected it, but it returns a large number of listings so the layout would have to be redesigned.. im just wondering if you guys think its worth it or not, or if you even want to have a Movies option in the main menu |
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| 12:34 | <Chutt> | i think it'd be useful |
| 12:57 | lichen | lichen_ Dec 09 12:57:46 <mdz> lichen: yeah, that'd be useful |
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| 15:24 | <Kuwanger> | Does mythtv work okay running in vnc? |
| 15:24 | <Kuwanger> | vncserver, that is. |
| 15:26 | <Chutt> | what possible reason could you have for doing that? |
| 15:26 | <Kyzoku> | if it runs in X, it should run in vncserver |
| 15:26 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: To keep it running, regardless? |
| 15:26 | <Chutt> | err, what? |
| 15:27 | * Kyzoku | is also puzzled |
| 15:27 | <Kuwanger> | I have to keep X continuously logged in to support mythtv running, otherwise. |
| 15:27 | <Chutt> | why's that a problem? |
| 15:28 | <Kuwanger> | You can't do that remotely. :) |
| 15:29 | <Kuwanger> | Well, not securely, at least. |
| 15:29 | <Chutt> | what would you need to do it remotely for? |
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| 15:29 | <Kuwanger> | Because I'm remote? |
| 15:29 | <Chutt> | i'm still confused. |
| 15:32 | <bigguy> | me too |
| 15:32 | <tinsley> | me three |
| 15:33 | <Kuwanger> | Me four, but about what you're confused about. |
| 15:38 | <tinsley> | so you want to watch tv through vnc? |
| 15:39 | <moegreen> | Kuwanger: or are you saying you want mythtv to run in a background process so it can record shows without being logged into a regular X session on the machine? |
| 15:39 | <Kuwanger> | moegreen: That's basically it, yes. |
| 15:41 | <moegreen> | hmm...mythtv runs in the vnc session, although i haven't tried recording anything - i guess that should work. You won't have a tv output - so when you watch what you have recorded you would have to close the mythfrontend running the vncsession and then start it on a regular session. |
| 15:43 | <Kuwanger> | moegreen: Actually, I would have tv output. The output is the output of decompression. I wouldn't want to, though, since remotely it'd never be fast enough and locally there's no reason to use vncserver, since I'm obviously logged in then. |
| 15:44 | <moegreen> | I'm not sure that the xvideo extension will work with vnc |
| 15:44 | <mdz> | moegreen: it definitely will not |
| 15:45 | <mdz> | even if it did, you'd need a ton of bandwidth even to send the unscaled frames |
| 15:45 | <mdz> | and the whole operation would be silly anyway :-) |
| 15:45 | <moegreen> | indeed |
| 15:45 | <Kuwanger> | You need Xv? |
| 15:45 | <Kuwanger> | Well, the preview mode works. |
| 15:46 | <Kuwanger> | Maybe it doesn't use Xv. Oh well, not that I'd try it. :) |
| 15:46 | <Kuwanger> | later |
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| 15:51 | <lichen> | oh god, kuwanger... here is his line of reasoning "let me think of the most absolutely ridiculous, not to mention pointless thing that i could ever want to do, and then ask if its possible.. and if its not, tell them that it should be and argue it to the death" |
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| 16:22 | <DigDug> | Been sifting through a little bit of the code. Was seeing how to make it Xinerama aware. Seems easy enough to control the video playback window in XJ.cpp, but it seems like all the other windows (mythfrontend, mythtv, etc) all use Qt and just open a window in the upper left of the screen (no fullscreen/windowed modes) |
| 16:27 | <mdz> | Chutt: did you realize that the mpeg4 codec actually changes the frame rate compared to rtjpeg? See the mailing list for details |
| 16:33 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:33 | <Chutt> | that was sarcasm, right? |
| 16:34 | <Chutt> | did you see my changes to your config code? |
| 16:35 | <Chutt> | digdug, yeah, that's right |
| 16:36 | <mdz> | Chutt: yes, that was sarcasm |
| 16:37 | <mdz> | Chutt: I noticed that you mythified it, but I haven't looked at the changes or the UI yet |
| 16:37 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 16:37 | <Chutt> | mostly just involved passing the context into the dialogs to allow em to access that stuff |
| 16:37 | <Chutt> | everything seems to fit into 800x600 |
| 16:38 | <mdz> | yeah, I was trying to think of a good way to separate the myth-specific bits from the generic bits |
| 16:38 | <mdz> | but I guess it doesn't matter |
| 16:38 | <mdz> | I don't want to maintain two of everything |
| 16:38 | <Chutt> | right |
| 16:38 | <Chutt> | i added a horizontal config box |
| 16:38 | <Chutt> | for the video size |
| 16:38 | <Chutt> | just to save a little space |
| 16:39 | <Chutt> | it all works fairly well with the keyboard |
| 16:39 | <mdz> | I had thought about letting the derived class specify a layout widget |
| 16:39 | <mdz> | rather than having vertical, horizontal, etc. |
| 16:39 | <Chutt> | i'm tempted to reimplement qwizard, though |
| 16:39 | <Chutt> | just so i can change the button types to the 'MyPushButton' class |
| 16:39 | <mdz> | I need to clean up the wizard too, if you didn't already |
| 16:39 | <mdz> | like remove the help button |
| 16:39 | <Chutt> | haven't done that yet |
| 16:40 | <mdz> | for some reason, it likes to focus the help button instead of finish at the end |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 16:40 | <bigguy> | |
| 16:41 | <mdz> | I started to put in scrollviews in a few places, to see if it was smart and would scroll it as the user focused the widgets |
| 16:41 | <mdz> | but QScrollView was a pain |
| 16:41 | <DigDug> | Chutt: so i just need to have the Qt window placed in the appropriate place on the desktop, i.e. in the TVout viewport. |
| 16:41 | <mdz> | wouldn't resize itself correctly |
| 16:41 | <bigguy> | bbl |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | digdug, yup |
| 16:42 | <mdz> | now that the dialogs are using mythcontext, though, it should be possible to drop in a qscrollview with a fixed size |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | i'm not sure how best to do that, though |
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| 16:42 | <Chutt> | mdz, you're a big fan of inheritance, aren't you? :p |
| 16:42 | <mdz> | seems like the window manager's job |
| 16:43 | <mdz> | Chutt: I knew you would make a comment about it ;-) |
| 16:43 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:43 | <Chutt> | not how i would've done it, but it works =) |
| 16:44 | <mdz> | I hate maintaining the same stuff in multiple places |
| 16:44 | <mdz> | so sometimes I go a little inheritance crazy |
| 16:45 | <DigDug> | Does each subprogram create its own Qt window one on top of the other with mythfrontend being the bottom? |
| 16:46 | <Chutt> | digdug, yup |
| 16:46 | <Chutt> | each screen, even within mythfrontend, is a separate window |
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| 16:56 | <mdz> | Chutt: do you think it's worthwhile to have a UI for editing the capturecard/cardinput/videosource stuff? |
| 16:57 | <mdz> | I'm not terribly motivated to do it |
| 17:01 | <DigDug> | Ugh, I can't find where the Qt window is actually created. |
| 17:02 | <Chutt> | the QDialog constructor |
| 17:02 | <Chutt> | mdz, isn't that mostly finished? |
| 17:07 | <DigDug> | So I need to change the placement of ALL dialog boxes. guidegrid,infodialog,themedmenu,deletebox,playbackbox, and viewscheduled... |
| 17:07 | <mdz> | Chutt: well, yeah, the existing stuff could be used for editing, but it needs a dialog to select a thing to edit |
| 17:08 | <mdz> | DigDug: yeah...Chutt's not a big fan of inheritance ;-) |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | you could just make a new dialog class |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | i've been meaning to for awhile |
| 17:11 | <DigDug> | And replace context->GetScreenSettings(screenw thru setFixedHeight(screenheight); with reference to a dialog object? |
| 17:11 | <DigDug> | Hmm i guess that didn't make much sense. |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | well |
| 17:12 | <Chutt> | you'd then make all those dialogs that currently inherit qdialog inherit the new dialog class |
| 17:12 | <Chutt> | and do all the common setup in there |
| 17:12 | <mdz> | and then the settings dialogs could do the same |
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| 17:14 | <DigDug> | I'm not too familiar with C++ syntax.. but " : QDialog(parent, name)" means inherit? |
| 17:15 | <Chutt> | no |
| 17:15 | <Chutt> | look in the .h file for it |
| 17:15 | <Chutt> | see the 'public Qdialog' bit? |
| 17:15 | <[DJ]HaCK> | how usable is mythtv ? does it do all it says on the webpage ? |
| 17:15 | <Chutt> | no, i'm lying on the webpage |
| 17:15 | <DigDug> | yeah, in dialogbox.h |
| 17:15 | <Chutt> | those are all mockups. |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | digdug, the : QDialog(parent, name) means to call qdialog's constructor with those args |
| 17:16 | <[DJ]HaCK> | a ok nice gimp job on those screenshots ;) |
| 17:19 | <DigDug> | Well, i don't want you to have to teach me C++. Maybe I should leave this stuff to someone else. |
| 17:20 | <DigDug> | Seems like its more of an overhaul than I had hoped. |
| 17:20 | <DigDug> | To do it right. |
| 17:20 | <[DJ]HaCK> | really , I plan to make a computer made only for use with mythtv as a pvr , is it stable enough to be sellable ? |
| 17:22 | <DigDug> | [DJ][DJ]HaCK: you are going to try to compete with TiVo and Replay TV? |
| 17:26 | <[DJ]HaCK> | you can't buy a tivo in my town |
| 17:27 | <[DJ]HaCK> | the best you can have is a bell expressvu pvr than can only record replay and pause live video |
| 17:27 | <[DJ]HaCK> | and it cost 700$cad |
| 17:30 | <Kyzoku> | the machine I'm looking to build costs nearly that, but I'm probably a little high on the hardware end of things |
| 17:30 | <[DJ]HaCK> | mine is 600$ cost but it can do much more than bell's like it has dvd and 80gb drive |
| 17:32 | <DigDug> | Chutt: I'll probably just make whatever changes I need to make just to get it working in my setup. I'll have the Xinerama and VidMode code in there and you can use that it implement it the Right(tm) way with that Dialog class. |
| 17:33 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:33 | <Chutt> | sure, that's fine |
| 17:33 | <DigDug> | I mean, i can easily change the placement everywhere "setGeometry" is called. |
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| 18:12 | <Chutt> | that web mailing list archive that was posted to the list is rather nice |
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| 18:33 | <Soopaman> | wow |
| 18:33 | <Soopaman> | this chan is growing more and more |
| 18:33 | <Soopaman> | what up all |
| 18:34 | <Soopaman> | Chutt, vektor, paperclip, mdz, Universe |
| 18:34 | <Soopaman> | any of you guys play around with the Windows Media Centre? |
| 18:36 | <Universe> | haven't gotten my hands on a copy yet. |
| 18:36 | <Soopaman> | i just played with it at Future Shop |
| 18:37 | <Soopaman> | and i swear it's a beta product |
| 18:37 | <Universe> | lol.. |
| 18:37 | <Universe> | all windows products are beta.. |
| 18:37 | <Soopaman> | heheheh |
| 18:37 | <Soopaman> | outside of the remote control, there really isn't anything good about it |
| 18:38 | <Soopaman> | it is sloooooooooooow |
| 18:38 | <Soopaman> | at times i forgot if i actually hit a button, i was waiting so long |
| 18:38 | <Soopaman> | dunno if the problem was with the machine, but whatever the case, the lag was rediculous |
| 18:41 | <paperclip> | where's the web mailing list archive? |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | there's a couple links on the website |
| 18:42 | <paperclip> | mkay |
| 18:42 | <paperclip> | cool |
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| 19:10 | <Kuwanger> | Well, it didn't apparently work. Only 1024 bytes were saved for the first program and the rest just plain didn't have recorded anything. |
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| 19:37 | <mdz_> | that guy on the mailing list is nuts |
| 19:38 | <mdz_> | mpeg-4 at 4400 looks fantastic |
| 19:40 | <Chutt> | he has a projector, iirc |
| 19:40 | <mdz_> | analog or digital? |
| 19:40 | <Chutt> | that, i don't know |
| 19:41 | <mdz_> | I would think that on a larger, lower-res display, the difference would be even more obvious |
| 19:41 | <mdz_> | he has other problems anyway, if it is not smooth |
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| 19:52 | * Kuwanger | would rather reduce than increase storage usage. |
| 19:55 | <lichen_> | very profound |
| 19:58 | <Kuwanger> | Uh, yea, whatever. |
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| 20:45 | <paperclip> | heya |
| 20:45 | <paperclip> | =) |
| 20:45 | <daryl_> | hey all, im new to mythtv, im trying to get it to work now, I hope this is the answer to my wishes |
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| 20:45 | <daryl_> | god it has alot of dependencies |
| 20:46 | <Chutt> | qt, lame, mysql, and xmltv. |
| 20:46 | <daryl_> | first off the ebuild doesnt work, because it complains about my march settings |
| 20:46 | <Chutt> | yeah, that's a lot. |
| 20:46 | <daryl_> | xmltv has alot |
| 20:47 | <daryl_> | but i compiled it manually |
| 20:47 | <Chutt> | everything xmltv needs is in cpan |
| 20:47 | <daryl_> | well xmltv is installed |
| 20:47 | <tinsley> | itd be sweet if mythtv was its own distro |
| 20:48 | <Chutt> | no it wouldn't. |
| 20:48 | <daryl_> | you should distrubute a distro with it installed, like a live cd |
| 20:48 | <daryl_> | so people can try it |
| 20:48 | <Chutt> | no, i shouldn't. |
| 20:48 | <Chutt> | there's debian packages for everything |
| 20:48 | <daryl_> | who runs debian? |
| 20:48 | <lichen_> | everyone |
| 20:48 | <daryl_> | heh |
| 20:48 | <daryl_> | right |
| 20:48 | <lichen_> | a lot more than you think |
| 20:49 | <TardisX> | I don't :-) but it was still no problem getting it going |
| 20:49 | <tinsley> | ewww debian |
| 20:49 | <lichen_> | rh, debian, and gentoo are probably the most popular |
| 20:49 | <Chutt> | if you choose not to use them, too bad |
| 20:49 | <tinsley> | myth should work on fbsd |
| 20:49 | <tinsley> | afaict |
| 20:49 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: Some of the xml isn't. |
| 20:49 | <Chutt> | erm, no |
| 20:49 | <lichen_> | i dont imagine v4l works on linux |
| 20:50 | <Chutt> | everything xmltv needs is in debian |
| 20:50 | <Chutt> | xmltv itself is in debian |
| 20:50 | <lichen_> | considering its video4LINUX |
| 20:50 | <tinsley> | heh |
| 20:50 | <daryl_> | well, anyone know how to reset passwords in mysql? |
| 20:50 | <daryl_> | i forgot my password |
| 20:51 | <Kuwanger> | I think XML::Parser was the one. |
| 20:52 | <Chutt> | libxml-parser-perl |
| 20:52 | <Chutt> | next? |
| 20:52 | <lichen_> | daryl, do you know the passwords of any accounts that can access the mysql table? |
| 20:53 | <lichen_> | s/table/database/ |
| 20:53 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: Huh? |
| 20:53 | <daryl_> | well I know every password for every user |
| 20:53 | <daryl_> | but, I set a password in mysql for the user root |
| 20:53 | <Chutt> | what do you mean, huh |
| 20:53 | <Chutt> | that's the package name |
| 20:53 | <Kuwanger> | Sorry, that wasn't it. |
| 20:53 | <Kuwanger> | XML::Twig isn't in cpan. |
| 20:54 | <lichen_> | apt-get fulfilled all my perl dependencies... i had absolutely zero trouble with xmltv |
| 20:55 | <daryl_> | so how do I reset the password for mysql |
| 20:55 | <Chutt> | xml twig 3.09 is in cpan |
| 20:55 | <Chutt> | which is the required version |
| 20:55 | <lichen_> | http://www.mysql.com/documentation/mysql/bychapter/ |
| 20:55 | <Chutt> | heh, thanks, i was just going to paste that :p |
| 20:56 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: I tried installing XML::Twig and it failed to find a match. |
| 20:56 | <lichen_> | :) |
| 20:56 | <Chutt> | kuwanger, that's nice. |
| 20:56 | <Chutt> | it's there, though |
| 20:57 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: Nifty. |
| 21:29 | <daryl_> | ----------------- Start of XMLTV output ----------------- |
| 21:29 | <daryl_> | ------------------ End of XMLTV output ------------------ |
| 21:30 | <daryl_> | what dpes that mean?- |
| 21:30 | <daryl_> | usr/bin/tv_grab_na: specified config file '/home/daryl/.mythtv/default.xmltv' does not exist, run --configure |
| 21:30 | <daryl_> | that was in between |
| 21:31 | <daryl_> | getting list of providers for postal/zip code 14221, be patient.. |
| 21:31 | <daryl_> | zap2it failed to give us a page: 302:Found |
| 21:31 | <daryl_> | check postal/zip code or www site (maybe they're down) |
| 21:31 | <knight__> | you're running an older version of xmltv |
| 21:31 | <knight__> | you need to run the latest |
| 21:31 | <daryl_> | anyone know what to do? |
| 21:32 | <knight__> | there was a change in how zap2it did it's pages |
| 21:32 | <daryl_> | im running 0.5.2 |
| 21:32 | <knight__> | and there was an emergency xmltv release |
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| 21:33 | <dcstimm> | what is the best way to install mythtv with gentoo? |
| 21:34 | <dcstimm> | xmltv is outdated it seems |
| 21:34 | <knight__> | 0.5.4 is the latest i believe |
| 21:34 | <knight__> | you must manually install the latest |
| 21:34 | <dcstimm> | i was wondering if there is a way to use a ebuild in gentoo for 0.5.4 |
| 21:34 | <dcstimm> | i dont want to manually do it |
| 21:34 | <knight__> | manually do it. there's no ebuild. |
| 21:35 | <dcstimm> | since mythtv is so buggy it seems |
| 21:35 | <knight__> | mythtv isnt so buddy. |
| 21:35 | <knight__> | s/buddy/buggy/ |
| 21:35 | <dcstimm> | well, it looks pretty bad so far |
| 21:35 | <knight__> | no |
| 21:35 | <knight__> | the ebuilds are crap |
| 21:35 | <knight__> | there's no OFFICIAL ebuild releases if you didnt notice |
| 21:35 | <dcstimm> | write some new ones? |
| 21:35 | <knight__> | go for it. |
| 21:36 | <dcstimm> | Probed: /dev/video0 - Television |
| 21:36 | <dcstimm> | Probed: /dev/video0 - Composite1 |
| 21:36 | <dcstimm> | Probed: /dev/video0 - S-Video |
| 21:36 | <dcstimm> | Probed: /dev/video0 - Composite3 |
| 21:36 | <dcstimm> | Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 21:36 | <dcstimm> | audio volume set to '32768' |
| 21:36 | <dcstimm> | strange error flushing buffer ... |
| 21:36 | <dcstimm> | what does that mean? |
| 21:36 | <knight__> | beats me |
| 21:36 | <knight__> | check the mailing list? |
| 21:37 | <dcstimm> | iv never really used a mailing list |
| 21:37 | <dcstimm> | how do they work? |
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| 21:38 | <Universe> | the strange error flushing buffer is a common error |
| 21:38 | <Universe> | ignore it |
| 21:38 | <dcstimm> | how do you fix it? |
| 21:38 | <Universe> | nothing to fix |
| 21:38 | <dcstimm> | tv doesnt come on |
| 21:39 | <dcstimm> | it just enables the sound |
| 21:39 | <dcstimm> | then dies |
| 21:39 | <Universe> | that isn't your problem then |
| 21:39 | <dcstimm> | ok |
| 21:39 | <dcstimm> | thats the last thing since it died |
| 21:39 | <Universe> | how long did you wait for TV to load? |
| 21:40 | <dcstimm> | ok it works now |
| 21:40 | <Universe> | depending on your processor and your settings, it can take a while... |
| 21:40 | <dcstimm> | dual p3s |
| 21:41 | <dcstimm> | #!/bin/bash |
| 21:41 | <dcstimm> | killall motv |
| 21:41 | <dcstimm> | killall xawtv |
| 21:41 | <dcstimm> | killall -9 vcr |
| 21:41 | <dcstimm> | vcr -g /dev/video0 -c 'divx ;-) low-motion' -v -p 40 -F 23 -q 100 -m mono -b 64 -t 60m 1while.avi |
| 21:41 | <dcstimm> | this is the script i use to record tv |
| 21:41 | <dcstimm> | now |
| 21:41 | <Universe> | I dont think myth takes advancing of SMP |
| 21:42 | <Universe> | you will have to ask mdz or Chutt to know for sure |
| 21:42 | <dcstimm> | why do I hear an echo when watching tv? |
| 21:42 | <Universe> | you dont have your mixxer setup correctly |
| 21:42 | <moegreen> | dcstimm: mute your line in volume |
| 21:42 | <Universe> | mute in line |
| 21:43 | <dcstimm> | why? |
| 21:44 | <Universe> | because you want to listen to playback |
| 21:44 | <Universe> | not the live feed from your TV card |
| 21:44 | <Universe> | or both , which is what you have going now |
| 21:45 | <dcstimm> | xawtv works fine |
| 21:45 | <Universe> | yes |
| 21:45 | <Universe> | because you are watching live video |
| 21:45 | <Universe> | wiht myth, you are watching a playing |
| 21:45 | <Universe> | err playback |
| 21:45 | <knight__> | mythtv live tv is really RECORDING the video and audio in, and playing it to you in real time |
| 21:45 | <knight__> | so if you have the audio in unmuted, you hear both |
| 21:45 | <Universe> | thanks knight_.... I wasn't getting the point across |
| 21:46 | <knight__> | universe, np |
| 21:46 | <dcstimm> | I muted my inline and it muted my audio |
| 21:46 | <Universe> | set inline as the record channel |
| 21:46 | <knight__> | mute Line In playback, not record. |
| 21:46 | <knight__> | yes |
| 21:48 | <dcstimm> | huh? |
| 21:49 | <dcstimm> | aumix completely turned my sound off |
| 21:49 | <dcstimm> | now I cant get it back on |
| 21:50 | <Universe> | I use kmix |
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| 21:51 | <Universe> | guess he didn't want to use kmix |
| 21:55 | <knight__> | haha |
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| 22:06 | <Kuwanger> | Is |
