| 00:03 | <mdz_> | any idea how to give focus to the next widget in the tab order? |
| 00:05 | <mdz_> | apparently, the list is kept in a QFocusData, but I don't see how to get a handle to it |
| 00:05 | <mdz_> | ah, QWidget::focusData() |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | focusNextPrevChild() |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | true or false depending on the direction |
| 00:07 | <mdz_> | that's even easier |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | i've got a qlineedit extension in mythmusic/cdrip.cpp |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | if you want to use that |
| 00:08 | <mdz_> | hmm |
| 00:08 | <mdz_> | good point, maybe this stuff should all go in one plac |
| 00:08 | <mdz_> | e |
| 00:08 | <Chutt> | i've got a mythwidgets.h started in my local tree |
| 00:08 | <Chutt> | and mythwidgets.cpp |
| 00:08 | <Chutt> | in libmyth |
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| 00:12 | <mdz_> | well check it in :-) |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | no can do =) |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | live tv doesn't work yet |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | once that does, i will |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | but watching what you're recording and those transitions will be broken in my initial checkin |
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| 00:16 | <mdz_> | what do you have in mythwidgets? |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | a toolbutton and pushbutton |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | their only modification is wrt drawing |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | made em more visible when focused |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | hey, for your mplayer patch |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | is there any reason for that struct to go into the .h file? |
| 00:23 | <mdz_> | the extendeddata? |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 00:24 | <mdz_> | the rest of the file format stuff was in there |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | oh, ok |
| 00:24 | <mdz_> | I just added it next to the nuppelvideo header and what not |
| 00:28 | <mdz_> | ok, I made the combobox work with those key bindings |
| 00:33 | <mdz_> | the spinbox doesn't work the same way, though, apparently |
| 00:33 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:34 | <mdz_> | the spinbox object doesn't get the keypress events |
| 00:34 | <mdz_> | I guess it creates some subordinate widget |
| 00:34 | <mdz_> | yeah, it's a qlineedit |
| 00:35 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 00:35 | <Chutt> | tricky =) |
| 00:37 | <mdz_> | there is a filter function which gets the event, but it's as a QEvent, how do I get the keypress out of that? |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | not sure |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | cast it somehow |
| 00:37 | <mdz_> | yuck |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | bah, it's probably how you're supposed to |
| 00:38 | <mdz_> | still yuck |
| 00:38 | <mdz_> | let's make a macro for the cast |
| 00:38 | <mdz_> | then it'll be just like gtk |
| 00:39 | <Chutt> | it's probably a subclass :p |
| 00:39 | <mdz_> | ok, got that working |
| 00:39 | <Chutt> | ya know, polymorphism and all that stuff |
| 00:41 | <mdz_> | if you have to check some enum to get the type, and then cast to that type, in order to do what you want, the interface should have been different ;-) |
| 00:41 | <mdz_> | I don't see where the keyboard events get handled for the slider |
| 00:42 | <mdz_> | never mind |
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| 00:45 | <mdz_> | ok, the whole recordingprofile wizard now works with just arrows+ok |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | sweet |
| 00:46 | <mdz_> | where should I put these widgets? |
| 00:46 | <mdz_> | I could create my own mythwidgets.{h,cpp} if you don't want to check yours in :p |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | that'd be best |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | my stuff'll just add on to yours, then |
| 00:47 | <noobie> | Does the Happauge WinTV PCI card support btaudio? The btaudio module loads, but I can't get any data from /dev/dsp |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | well, or i can check it in |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | noobie, depends on the card |
| 00:48 | <noobie> | Hmm. Is there a table listing card rev->audio capabilities? |
| 00:48 | <Chutt> | not that i'm aware of |
| 00:50 | <mdz_> | Chutt: in libmyth? |
| 00:50 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | lichen, your mythweb changes are in |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | now i've gotta go to bed |
| 00:55 | <mdz_> | ok I committed the widgets |
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| 08:03 | <giuppi> | hi! does anyone have experience with mythtv on a 16:9 or 16:10 display ? |
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| 11:49 | <mdz_> | yay, the IR thing arrived today |
| 11:55 | <vektor> | `Does it work? |
| 11:55 | <mdz_> | haven't unpacked it yet |
| 11:55 | <mdz_> | others have had success with it, and it's just a simple serial device, so I have high hopes |
| 11:55 | <vektor> | oh cool. |
| 11:55 | <vektor> | Well let me know. |
| 11:55 | <vektor> | I'm curious. |
| 12:00 | <mdz_> | Chutt: what's the reason for the separate videosource table? |
| 12:01 | <mdz_> | it seems like videosource<->cardinput should always be 1:1, and name could be a column in the same table with the cardinput data |
| 12:05 | <mdz_> | I'm ready to work on the GUI setup for the inputs, but it would be significantly simplified if those tables were merged |
| 12:09 | <Chutt> | don't you have multiple inputs on your card that you use? |
| 12:10 | <Chutt> | i guess there's no real reason for them to be separate |
| 12:10 | <Chutt> | ah, wait |
| 12:11 | <Chutt> | i've got 2 cards, sharing one video source |
| 12:12 | <Chutt> | just seemed the best way to break things up, but i suppose they could be merged |
| 12:12 | <mdz_> | Chutt: also, you said something about wanting the recordingprofile settings moved out of libmyth...where should they go? |
| 12:12 | <mdz_> | I do have multiple inputs on my card that I use |
| 12:13 | <Chutt> | into the frontend, i'd say |
| 12:13 | <Chutt> | well, the gui code for it, at least |
| 12:13 | <mdz_> | the videosource corresponds to an xmltv channel source, right? |
| 12:13 | <Chutt> | right |
| 12:13 | <mdz_> | yeah, I guess you could connect multiple cardinputs to the same logical channel source |
| 12:14 | <mdz_> | I'll follow that then |
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| 12:14 | <Chutt> | kinda like how i have it in the setup program now |
| 12:14 | <Chutt> | you setup what channel sources you have |
| 12:14 | <Chutt> | then you associate them with inputs on the card |
| 12:16 | <mdz_> | I'd like to simplify the common case, though |
| 12:16 | <mdz_> | and have a wizard which goes straight through for a single video source |
| 12:18 | <mdz_> | Chutt: you track unstable on your mythtv development system, right? |
| 12:18 | <mdz_> | Chutt: have you tried that new gdb? |
| 12:19 | <mdz_> | I'm curious if it's worth putting it on my testing system |
| 12:19 | <vektor> | Is it sexy? |
| 12:19 | <Chutt> | haven't yet |
| 12:19 | <mdz_> | vektor: * Add a patch which makes debugging threaded applications drastically |
| 12:19 | <mdz_> | (5x - 10x) faster. Whee! |
| 12:20 | <mdz_> | there sure seem to be a lot of long delays in threaded programs with the old version |
| 12:20 | <vektor> | wow interesting. |
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| 12:47 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 12:54 | <dschwarz> | hello, is Isaac on here? |
| 12:54 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 12:55 | <Chutt> | sorry for not responding to your patch yet |
| 12:55 | <dschwarz> | no prob |
| 12:55 | <Chutt> | i've been really busy, haven't had time to look it over |
| 12:55 | <dschwarz> | I've been lagging behind the CVS head so it doesn't merge 100% cleanly. One or two fixes needed |
| 12:55 | <Chutt> | no worries, there |
| 12:56 | <Chutt> | my current tree isn't anywhere near cvs anyway =) |
| 12:56 | <dschwarz> | right now I'm trying to figure out why it segfaults against the head but worked OK against my earlier version :( |
| 12:56 | <dschwarz> | Which version of QT libraries do you recommend I target when coding? debian-unstable headers are < qt 3.1 |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | just whatever's in debian unstable |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | 3.0.x |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | i've got some fixes in my tree for qt 3.1, since i installed cvs debs of kde 3.1 |
| 12:57 | <dschwarz> | qt 3.1 has some nice enhancements to the QDateTimeEdit control. Without those I might as well go looking for a replacement control. |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 13:00 | <dschwarz> | I'll stick with 3.0.x for now and look for substitute controls. |
| 13:00 | <dschwarz> | thanks for MythTV, it's a lot of fun to work with |
| 13:00 | <Chutt> | thanks =) |
| 13:00 | <Chutt> | and yeah, most people will be using 3.0 for a good time to come, so i don't think it makes sense to require qt 3.1 |
| 13:02 | <dschwarz> | maybe a runtime version check and use new features only if available.. dunno if that's possible with qt. this is my first time programming with the qt libs, they're incredibly easy to ramp up on. |
| 13:02 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 13:02 | <Chutt> | mythtv was the first time i touched em, too |
| 13:04 | <Chutt> | only problem with runtime stuff like that is compiling everything |
| 13:04 | <Chutt> | dunno if they changed the api or not, etc |
| 13:04 | <dschwarz> | true, you'd have to conditionally include the additional headers in mythtv somehow |
| 13:05 | <Chutt> | and ifdefs like that are just messy |
| 13:05 | <Chutt> | and hard to maintain |
| 13:05 | <Chutt> | so, probably the best thing to do would be to just assume 3.0 |
| 13:06 | <dschwarz> | yeah. I'll look for a replacement control. Not sure I'm up to writing a new one yet |
| 13:07 | <dschwarz> | I'm thinking the "resolve conflicts" menu item wants to evolve into a general "view list of programs to record and adjust their properties" feature |
| 13:09 | <dschwarz> | this would be the UI to change start/end times, adjust recording quality setting on a per -program basis, and deactivate recordings in conflict |
| 13:19 | <mdz_> | someone is complaining that watching TV doesn't work when they haven't created any profiles |
| 13:21 | <dschwarz> | can anyone sort out the various mysql scripts in the databases directory? |
| 13:21 | <dschwarz> | I'm sure some of them are quite obsolete |
| 13:21 | <dschwarz> | there's no clear path to follow when upgrading versions |
| 13:24 | <mdz_> | the upgrade instructions are always in UPGRADING |
| 13:24 | <lichen_> | hmm nosticed a bug in listings.php .. if the same program is back to back it combines them into one big cell |
| 13:26 | <mdz_> | I think the instructions are very clear |
| 13:32 | <Chutt> | and it's cvs |
| 13:32 | <Chutt> | they shouldn't be using it in the first place |
| 13:34 | <Chutt> | i need to figure out how to handle the ringbuffer remotely |
| 13:35 | <mdz_> | BEEP :-) |
| 13:36 | <Chutt> | well, without too much network traffic |
| 13:36 | <mdz_> | why not just wrap read, write, seek, etc. in an RPC mechanism |
| 13:36 | <mdz_> | oh wait, that would be NFS :-) |
| 13:36 | <Chutt> | it's the rpc that's the important part |
| 13:37 | <Chutt> | i need to know what the write position is on the writer, in the reader |
| 13:37 | <Chutt> | so i don't wrap around it |
| 13:37 | <mdz_> | hmm, that's tricky |
| 13:37 | <Chutt> | i could just send ask every time i need to know that, but it's fairly often =) |
| 13:38 | <Chutt> | send a query and ask |
| 13:38 | <Chutt> | rather |
| 13:38 | <mdz_> | what does the reader do if it runs into it? go to sleep? |
| 13:38 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 13:38 | <Chutt> | until there's enough data produced |
| 13:38 | <mdz_> | the rpc call could block until something is available |
| 13:38 | <Chutt> | but it's a ring buffer |
| 13:38 | <Chutt> | goes round and round |
| 13:38 | <mdz_> | yes... |
| 13:38 | <Chutt> | available isn't well defined |
| 13:39 | <mdz_> | it is if it isn't too generic |
| 13:39 | <mdz_> | I guess if you want multiple readers it isn't |
| 13:39 | <mdz_> | the reader has a well-defined idea of whethere data is available |
| 13:40 | <mdz_> | and that logic could be moved to the server side |
| 13:41 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 13:41 | <Chutt> | well |
| 13:42 | <Chutt> | the major thing is, it's not hard to find out where the server/writer is and how much data is available |
| 13:42 | <Chutt> | that part's easy |
| 13:42 | <Chutt> | i just don't want to be doing it as often as every read |
| 13:42 | <mdz_> | not over the network anyway |
| 13:42 | <Chutt> | exactly |
| 13:43 | <mdz_> | but if the reader doesn't actually need to know, and just needs to block or sleep until data is available, the test can happen on the remote side |
| 13:43 | <Chutt> | that'd still involve a network hit |
| 13:43 | <mdz_> | no more than the reading itself |
| 13:43 | <Chutt> | true |
| 13:43 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | hadn't thought of it that way |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 13:44 | <mdz_> | it's too bad there aren't any decent BEEP library implementations around |
| 13:44 | <mdz_> | because this seems like a good beep application |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | i was kinda hoping to optimize the both reader/writer on the same machine case |
| 13:46 | <mdz_> | optimize how? |
| 13:46 | <vektor> | mdz: You like BEEP? |
| 13:46 | <mdz_> | unix socket? |
| 13:46 | <Chutt> | no network |
| 13:46 | <mdz_> | vektor: that's a trick question :-) |
| 13:46 | <Chutt> | well, minimal network |
| 13:46 | <mdz_> | vektor: BEEP is a pretty good idea, but so far it looks like all the implementations suck |
| 13:47 | <vektor> | mdz: I'm not entirely convinced BEEP is a good idea. |
| 13:47 | <mdz_> | vektor: it's not the end-all, be-all, but I think it has solid applications |
| 13:47 | <mdz_> | vektor: syslog is not one that I would find appropriate :-) |
| 13:48 | <vektor> | Well my problem was that it was proposed like it was going to be the be-all end-all. |
| 13:48 | <vektor> | Right. |
| 13:48 | <vektor> | IM is another. |
| 13:48 | <vektor> | I was disappointed by the BEEP IM crud. |
| 13:49 | <vektor> | Anyway, the main BEEP originator I've found to be a weenie, but only though very little contact so I could be wrong. |
| 13:51 | <mdz_> | Chutt: no network as in IPC, or run them as threads? |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | some ipc |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | but, i was just trying to think of a way to minimize how often it needed to know where the writer was |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | is all |
| 13:51 | <mdz_> | if you're going to special-case that one to optimize it, why not just run threads? |
| 13:52 | <Chutt> | but i guess there really isn't any reason to special case it |
| 13:52 | <Chutt> | just have all the logic live on the server |
| 13:59 | <_shad> | hrm |
| 13:59 | <_shad> | how fast is the loopback? |
| 13:59 | <_shad> | :) |
| 14:00 | <Chutt> | ok, since when did the sblive get multiple adcs? |
| 14:01 | <_shad> | I have seen so many versions of the sb live, it's not funny |
| 14:01 | <_shad> | I have one that I can't find windows drivers for it |
| 14:01 | <_shad> | hehe |
| 14:01 | <Chutt> | yeah, but none of them can record two different things at the same time =) |
| 14:01 | <_shad> | :) |
| 14:01 | <_shad> | That's stupid |
| 14:02 | <mdz_> | Chutt: you can just do it in software |
| 14:02 | <lichen_> | haha yes! i fixed the buggy listings.php .. sometimes i wonder what thor was doing, it seems like he takes the most complicated way somtimes |
| 14:02 | <Chutt> | of course! |
| 14:02 | <_shad> | I personally don't see any difference between a 16bit soundblaster and a sblive |
| 14:02 | <mdz_> | Chutt: read the mailing list :-) |
| 14:02 | <Chutt> | lichen, send a patch -- you saw the commit last night? |
| 14:03 | <_shad> | Chutt: for local recorder/player, would using the loopback be fast enough? |
| 14:03 | <mdz_> | heh, I don't think he read that URL that he posted |
| 14:03 | <mdz_> | what the 4front drivers can do is allow multiple applications to record from the same input at the same time |
| 14:03 | <_shad> | I'll supply an OSS license for you :) |
| 14:03 | <lichen_> | yep... thanks.. i think im gonna do some more work on it too, like get up some basic resolve conflicts work or something then ill submit another patch |
| 14:03 | <_shad> | Courtesy of Bill Gates |
| 14:04 | <mdz_> | I've never had any need for commercial OSS |
| 14:04 | <Chutt> | lichen, i just like the colors in the grid =) |
| 14:04 | <_shad> | mdz: I have an Aureal Vortex here. Kinda need it |
| 14:05 | <lichen_> | ohh.. haha yeah i asw that, thats cool, ill just leave those commented out in my tree then, cause to me it looks like a circus and i cant figure out whats going on :) |
| 14:05 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:05 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 14:05 | <Chutt> | it looks nice without em, too |
| 14:05 | <Chutt> | but =) |
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| 14:10 | <mdz_> | _shad: my sympathies |
| 14:11 | <_shad> | mdz: and a voodoo2. :) |
| 14:12 | <mdz_> | Chutt: any ideas about how the playback settings should be broken down? there are clearly too many for a single screen |
| 14:12 | <Chutt> | not right offhand |
| 14:12 | <Chutt> | what all is there? |
| 14:12 | <mdz_> | look at globalsettings.h in CVS |
| 14:12 | <mdz_> | about 20 things |
| 14:13 | <mdz_> | I was thinking about splitting off the OSD settings and the Live TV-specific settings |
| 14:13 | <Chutt> | it'll be a few minutes |
| 14:13 | <mdz_> | but that still leaves like 12 things |
| 14:13 | <mdz_> | no rush, I'm working on other things |
| 14:13 | <Chutt> | gotta reboot that machine =) |
| 14:13 | <Chutt> | was in windows to update my book database |
| 14:13 | <mdz_> | I guess the over/underscan stuff could get its own screen |
| 14:13 | <mdz_> | or wizard page |
| 14:13 | <mdz_> | there are 6 of those |
| 14:14 | <mdz_> | or, we could get rid of the scanmode settings, and just use negative numbers for underscan and positive for overscan |
| 14:14 | <Chutt> | that'd be easier |
| 14:14 | <Chutt> | 2 settings instead of 6 =) |
| 14:14 | <mdz_> | 4 instead of 6 |
| 14:14 | <mdz_> | still need the displacement |
| 14:14 | <Chutt> | oh, the offset |
| 14:14 | <Chutt> | right |
| 14:15 | <mdz_> | there's a lot of space between the items, maybe I should tweak that |
| 14:15 | <mdz_> | it would probably make it less readable on TV though |
| 14:15 | <vektor> | i need to get overscan etc settings in tvtime |
| 14:15 | <vektor> | dang |
| 14:15 | <mdz_> | it's good to have space |
| 14:15 | <vektor> | so useful |
| 14:15 | <mdz_> | vektor: give in and merge with myth |
| 14:15 | <vektor> | yeah i should |
| 14:15 | <vektor> | no, i shouldn't |
| 14:15 | <vektor> | oh, maybe i should |
| 14:16 | <Chutt> | naw, you shouldn't |
| 14:16 | <Chutt> | people would bitch |
| 14:16 | <Chutt> | "why do i need all that crap if i just want to watch tv" |
| 14:16 | <vektor> | bah |
| 14:16 | <Chutt> | mdz, thanks for moving stuff into the frontend, btw |
| 14:17 | <mdz_> | no problem |
| 14:18 | <mdz_> | I thought you were going to do the splitup so that the encoder and the player would be separate programs |
| 14:18 | <mdz_> | etc. |
| 14:18 | <Chutt> | i am |
| 14:18 | <mdz_> | but then won't they be sharing some of those settings? |
| 14:18 | <Chutt> | but the recorder doesn't need to set things |
| 14:18 | <Chutt> | the frontend does |
| 14:18 | <Chutt> | the recorder is just a console program |
| 14:18 | <mdz_> | a console program or a daemon? |
| 14:18 | <Chutt> | i don't daemonize it yet |
| 14:19 | <Chutt> | but it could be, yeah |
| 14:19 | <mdz_> | that'd be natural I think |
| 14:19 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:19 | <Chutt> | but it's easier to debug if i can just ctl-c it =) |
| 14:20 | <mdz_> | yep |
| 14:20 | <mdz_> | it's nice to have an option to tell it not to fork |
| 14:20 | <mdz_> | that's what I usually do |
| 14:21 | <Chutt> | yeah, that's good |
| 14:21 | <Chutt> | i'm just lazy and haven't done that =) |
| 14:23 | <mdz_> | no need yet, I should think |
| 14:23 | <vektor> | are these AMD chips actually any good? |
| 14:24 | <Chutt> | xps? |
| 14:24 | <Chutt> | i think so |
| 14:24 | <vektor> | sure whatever |
| 14:24 | <vektor> | and do i have to be careful with motherboards? |
| 14:24 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 14:24 | <Chutt> | i haven't had any problems with mine whatsoever, really |
| 14:24 | <vektor> | ok |
| 14:24 | <vektor> | and what's yours? |
| 14:24 | <Chutt> | abit nv7-133r |
| 14:24 | <Chutt> | with an xp 1800+ |
| 14:24 | <vektor> | cool |
| 14:24 | <Chutt> | that's an nforce motherboard, though |
| 14:25 | <vektor> | holy crap dude |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | so i have to use a binary net card driver |
| 14:25 | <vektor> | that chip is sooooo cheap |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:25 | <vektor> | wow |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | well, it was more when i got it =) |
| 14:25 | <vektor> | sure but |
| 14:25 | <vektor> | man |
| 14:25 | <vektor> | and your box is alot faster than mine |
| 14:25 | <moegreen> | Hey, i've been throwing around some ideas for the program guide. The changes i've made are still a little rough around the edges but wanted to get some feedback. I've got a screenshot and summary of what i've done thus far: http://untzuntz.com/mythtv/guide.html |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | stuff's dirt cheap now |
| 14:26 | <mdz_> | XPs are very fast and very cheap |
| 14:26 | <Chutt> | moegreen, i'd like it if you didn't copy freevo :p |
| 14:26 | <mdz_> | P4s are not fast and not cheap |
| 14:26 | <moegreen> | well the real inspiration was from a digital cable box I used to have |
| 14:26 | <Chutt> | since that's their layout pretty much exactly, iirc |
| 14:27 | <vektor> | this is insanely cheap |
| 14:28 | <Chutt> | moegreen, got code for it, though? |
| 14:28 | <moegreen> | yeah |
| 14:30 | <moegreen> | there are still a few small changes i need to make to some of the layout code (and i want to ensure that it works well when resized). |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | my biggest issue with changing the program guide is that i like how the current one is =) |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | as much info as possible |
| 14:31 | <vektor> | Chutt: when it says 'nvidia nforce motherboard' what does that mean? like is there on-board video or something? |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | vektor, well, it's semi-nonstandard =) |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | moegreen, but if you can make it configurable |
| 14:32 | <Chutt> | vektor, like, the ide controller's different than a normal one, but that's supported now |
| 14:32 | <vektor> | oh |
| 14:32 | <Chutt> | there's a binary module for the built-in networking |
| 14:32 | <moegreen> | Chutt: which part configurable? from the old version and this version? |
| 14:32 | <Chutt> | moegreen, yeah |
| 14:32 | <Chutt> | vektor, my board doesn't have built-in video, but others do |
| 14:32 | <vektor> | ok |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | vektor, it's got built-in audio that's fairly crappily supported in linux -- it's the same audio stuff that's in the xbox, really |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | hardware dolby digital encoder, etc |
| 14:33 | <vektor> | weird. |
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| 14:33 | <vektor> | i'd rather just buy a cheap normal mobo |
| 14:33 | <vektor> | but they seem hard to find |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | but all that's supported in linux is your standard pcm, i'm not even sure if multichannels are in there =) |
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| 14:33 | <vektor> | it's like every mobo on this dude's price list is all decked out |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | yeah, that'd be smartest |
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| 14:42 | <tinsley> | anyone have pictures of their tvs running myth, not screenshots |
| 14:42 | <Chutt> | ah, not i |
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| 14:46 | <mirk_dt> | Chutt: mythgame is currently set up to find the correct command line switches for xmame and use them. |
| 14:46 | <mirk_dt> | but for the fullscreen option, there's no way to find out whether your using DGA or XV |
| 14:46 | <mirk_dt> | so the option could be either -X11 1 or -fullscreen |
| 14:46 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 14:47 | <mirk_dt> | would you be ok with defining these switches in the mythgame-settings.txt? |
| 14:47 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 14:47 | <mirk_dt> | cool. I'll work on it. |
| 14:47 | <Chutt> | excellent, thanks |
| 14:58 | <_shad> | tinsley: http://shad.hopto.org/~shad/monitor.jpg |
| 14:59 | <Chutt> | nice cd collection on the wall |
| 14:59 | <tinsley> | _shad: thats just tv |
| 14:59 | <_shad> | heh |
| 14:59 | <tinsley> | :P |
| 14:59 | <_shad> | and it's a monitor though :) |
| 15:00 | <_shad> | Chutt: most of them are aol cd's :) |
| 15:00 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:00 | <Chutt> | i've always found decorating with cds was weird |
| 15:00 | <_shad> | I actually called up aol and told them I was doing a presentation at school and to send me 100 cd's :) |
| 15:00 | <_shad> | I had them on my ceiling too |
| 15:00 | <Chutt> | the gigabeat/napster offices were like that, too, but they had em hanging from the ceilings |
| 15:00 | <_shad> | but then I'd get waken up in the middle of the night when they started falling |
| 15:01 | <tinsley> | you can usually go to compusa and they have stacks of aol cds |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:01 | <tinsley> | good coasters |
| 15:01 | <_shad> | :) |
| 15:01 | <tinsley> | disposable coasters rather |
| 15:01 | <_shad> | Too bad I gave my digicam to my mom for her b-day |
| 15:01 | * _shad | goes to steal it back for a min :) |
| 15:11 | <Chutt> | moegreen, i didn't discourage you from submitting those changes, did i? |
| 15:11 | <Chutt> | since, like, i could make it configurable to the old way if you didn't want to do that.. |
| 15:11 | <moegreen> | no, I had just hacked up the guidegrid.cpp, so i'm making the changes configurable |
| 15:11 | <moegreen> | :) |
| 15:12 | <Chutt> | ok, cool |
| 15:12 | <Chutt> | i'm sure people will like it looking that way |
| 15:12 | <moegreen> | Chutt: what do you think the possibility of getting the video to output to the top right section would be? |
| 15:12 | <Chutt> | might be a tad tricky |
| 15:12 | <_shad> | http://shad.hopto.org/~shad/mythtv |
| 15:12 | <_shad> | some other mythtv pics |
| 15:12 | <_shad> | :) |
| 15:12 | <Chutt> | but i'm fairly sure i can work it out |
| 15:12 | <_shad> | and my mess :) |
| 15:13 | <Chutt> | moegreen, of whatever channel the user had it on when they went into the grid? |
| 15:13 | <_shad> | and movies |
| 15:13 | <_shad> | hehe |
| 15:13 | <moegreen> | yeah |
| 15:13 | <Chutt> | should be able to tell the output window to resize and move it into place fairly easily |
| 15:14 | <Chutt> | bah, time to go shopping |
| 15:14 | <_shad> | Chutt: one of those computers in the corner will by one of my players :) |
| 15:14 | <_shad> | or 2, or 3. hehe |
| 15:15 | <_shad> | might have to stick one in the bathroom. |
| 15:18 | <mdz_> | Chutt: you may have noticed that I ended up lowercasing all of the setting names...if you feel strongly about the way they were, now would be a good time to standardize it |
| 15:47 | <mdz_> | Chutt: now I remember why I put the recording profile in libmyth |
| 15:48 | <mdz_> | it needs to go in libmythtv I guess |
| 15:54 | <mdz_> | I've moved it there so that CVS builds correctly again |
| 15:56 | <mdz_> | it could be modified to use the generic libmyth settings interface to pull out the settings, and the frontend could pull them out of the database using the real recordingprofile interface, but I'm not sure I see the point |
| 16:02 | <Edgan> | mdz_: Yesterday you said you were going to post the mplayer patch to play mythtv video, but I don't see any sign of it. |
| 16:16 | <Chutt> | mdz, ah |
| 16:17 | <Chutt> | mdz, i just wanted the gui stuff in the frontend, is all |
| 16:39 | <tinsley> | so there will be teh ability to play arbitrary video files with myth soon? |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | someone seems to be writing such stuff, yeah |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | i don't really see the point |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | but, whatever |
| 16:40 | <tinsley> | you dont? |
| 16:41 | <Chutt> | how does one manage to get arbitrary video files onto a set top box? |
| 16:42 | <tinsley> | i'm going to mount my servers divx directory |
| 16:43 | <Chutt> | just being a frontend to another program is just silly. |
| 16:43 | <tinsley> | well, for this type of thing i'm a fan of lots of things rolled into one |
| 16:44 | <tinsley> | but i do see your point |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | i should just not allow anonymous cvs |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | or provide snapshots |
| 17:22 | <brtb> | got people downloading stuff right in the middle of a fix and wondering why it doesn't work? |
| 17:23 | <Chutt> | and bitching to the list about it |
| 17:27 | <Markie> | tinsley: i'll be posting my mythvideo tomorrow. it allow for playing video files |
| 17:28 | <Markie> | (actually, it sllow for playing any type of file using any external program) |
| 17:29 | <Markie> | allow=allows |
| 17:34 | <_shad> | Chutt: I like cvs :) |
| 17:36 | <tinsley> | Markie: nice |
| 17:42 | <Markie> | i'm gonna be finishing it up tomorrow |
| 17:43 | <_shad> | The next time you're having a bad day, imagine this. You're a Siamese twin. Your brother, attached |
| 17:43 | <_shad> | at your shoulder is gay and you're not. But you only have the one ass. Feel better? |
| 18:08 | <lichen_> | wow lot of patches coming in for mythweb |
| 18:08 | <lichen_> | i guessi sparked some interest |
| 18:08 | <lichen_> | i cant keep track of em all anymore |
| 18:13 | <lichen_> | wow.. with the movies.php patch i cant even execute it cause it hits the 8meg script resource limit set in php.ini |
| 18:14 | <lichen_> | i think this is indicative of some bad coding somewhere |
| 18:26 | <lichen_> | this is great, actual except from patch: |
| 18:26 | <lichen_> | if(smellsLikeMovie($proginfo->duration, $proginfo->progType) && $proginfo->title != "Saturday Night Live") |
| 18:26 | <lichen_> | good thing they write code thats bound to work in all situations!! |
| 18:26 | <lichen_> | s/except/excerpt/ |
| 18:27 | <Markie> | heh |
| 18:28 | <Markie> | i'm making my own imdb library..so i'm assuming once i post it, the movies.php will use the one i'm doing |
| 18:28 | <Markie> | sucks..theres no imdb library that currently exists |
| 18:29 | <lichen_> | imdb library? whats it gonna do? |
| 18:29 | <Markie> | return imdb stuff based on the movie name |
| 18:30 | <lichen_> | cool, for mythfrontend or what? |
| 18:30 | <Markie> | i.e. when you'r playing/choosing a movie in my mythvideo, it'll show you the poster icon, plot summary, credtis..etc for a video |
| 18:30 | <Markie> | yea |
| 18:32 | <Markie> | heh..my "mythvideo" really is "mythexplorer" |
| 18:32 | <lichen_> | very nifty.. unfortunately im not so sure i know of any way to use the lib in php |
| 18:32 | <lichen_> | at least no without some external app |
| 18:32 | <Markie> | i.e. just a file explorer that spawn off handler programs... |
| 18:32 | <Markie> | lichen: i can make a php module |
| 18:32 | <Markie> | it can be a native php module to php |
| 18:32 | <Markie> | once i make an imdb library, i'll just link it into php |
| 18:33 | <lichen_> | ohhh... okay, cool, im not as much of a php expert as i should be |
| 18:33 | <lichen_> | link it in? would you ahve to totally relink the php lib? |
| 18:34 | <Markie> | yea...no biggie..wel, actually php can load dynamic modules |
| 18:34 | <lichen_> | yeah im thinking that would be better, you know, for hte average user |
| 18:34 | <Markie> | i'm actually one of the original authors of php, so it's cake to me :^) |
| 18:34 | <lichen_> | oh really?! very cool :) |
| 18:35 | <Markie> | it's funny, I think i have a sense for "good" opensource projects. |
| 18:35 | <Markie> | i pick them, and they become huge. |
| 18:35 | <Markie> | not that it's me that makes them highe, it's more me being lucky |
| 18:37 | <Markie> | i actually havent worked on php since it became 4.0....it's been a long time! |
| 18:38 | <Markie> | the last i programemd php was converting the modules from 3.0 to 4.0 |
| 18:38 | <Markie> | blah |
| 18:38 | <Markie> | i'm gonan use libcurl for the IMDB stuff...does that sound ok? |
| 18:39 | <Markie> | seems to be the best url scraper in library form, apart from PERL |
| 18:39 | <lichen_> | yeah thats what i would use |
| 18:39 | <Markie> | kewl |
| 18:40 | <Markie> | i'm gonna get mythvideo done tomorrow, post it..then extend it with the imdb stuff |
| 18:41 | <lichen_> | hey well would you have any idea about this php problem im having, like i dont know if you've been following the mythweb updates, but some guy posted a patch to it to show like all the movies that are in the future, and when it executes it seems to be using up all 8megs of the resource limit set in php.ini and i cant possibly figure out why, i mean myqsl_free_result is called on all the large result sets, and there isn't anything else huge thats being |
| 18:42 | <Markie> | i'll take a look at it..who sent in the patch? which patch is it? |
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| 18:43 | <lichen_> | sent in by grant taylor, its been like the third patch since my huge diff yesterday, its supposed to add another option in the main menu to list all the movies in the future, and some other misc things |
| 18:44 | <Markie> | ok..i'll look into it later tongiht..i have to run out to a holiday party right now.. |
| 18:44 | <lichen_> | okay, that would be cool... ill be... indisposed tonight :) ... but i can see what you come up with tomorrow or something |
| 18:46 | <Markie> | heh.ok |
| 18:47 | <Markie> | oh.....so is it safe for me to assume that people have videos (movies) on their computers, or am i the only one with gobs of movies on my PC? |
| 18:47 | <Markie> | am i making mythvideo just for myself, or do you think other people have this need? |
| 18:49 | <lichen_> | i hoenstly dont even know what mythvideo is :) |
| 18:50 | <Markie> | heh |
| 18:50 | <Markie> | just a way to watch divx,avi's..etc..from mythtv |
| 18:51 | <_shad> | Markie: I actually burn all my movies. don't have room for 500 movies :) |
| 18:51 | <lichen_> | yeah i think i could benefit from it |
| 18:52 | <Universe> | Markie... I would use it |
| 18:52 | <Markie> | kewl.. |
| 18:53 | <Markie> | that makes me happy |
| 18:53 | <Universe> | it would come in really handy when Chutt splits it up to be a server/client setup... |
| 18:53 | <Universe> | have a massive server somewhere with all your movies/mp3s on it. |
| 18:54 | <tinsley> | Markie: mythvideo is a highly requested feature |
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| 21:00 | <matr1x> | wow |
| 21:00 | <matr1x> | lotta people |
| 21:00 | <matr1x> | knight__ ! |
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| 21:33 | <matr1x> | whats the best video card for mythtv |
| 21:40 | <devtrash> | matr1x: yes |
| 21:40 | <devtrash> | matr1x: which do you have? |
| 21:58 | <matr1x> | im looking for one |
| 21:58 | <matr1x> | i currently have a G400 in this box |
| 21:58 | <matr1x> | but doubt itd be sufficient for mythtv |
| 22:03 | <tinsley> | ati all in wonder radeon 7500 |
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| 22:08 | <devtrash> | it will work |
| 22:12 | <matr1x> | it will? |
| 22:12 | <matr1x> | cool |
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| 22:49 | <brtb> | videocard? sufficient? for recording, a BT878-based tuner works fine, pretty much any videocard works for playback - all the compression/decompression is done in software anyway, so it's all dependent on raw processing power |
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| 22:56 | <brtb> | though i probably shouldn't say any, some wiseguy will dig out an old trident 8900 and try to use it or something |
| 22:56 | <brtb> | and that's a lot of extra spaces... oops |
| 22:57 | <matr1x> | heh |
| 22:57 | <matr1x> | any sort of card you could get that would help the processor out? |
| 22:57 | <bigguy> | not really in linux |
| 22:57 | <matr1x> | harsh |
| 22:58 | <brtb> | well.... if you can get something that's supported by mjpeg-tools, maybe |
| 22:58 | <bigguy> | there are some mpeg2/4 cards that help slower procs watch/record divx/mp2 ect files but they only have good drivers in winders |
| 22:59 | <brtb> | right |
| 23:05 | <matr1x> | what do tivo's use |
| 23:06 | <bigguy> | they have hardware encoder/decoder |
| 23:06 | <bigguy> | thats how they can have the slow proc |
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| 23:17 | <mdz_> | Edgan: I posted it to the mailing list, twice |
| 23:17 | <mdz_> | Edgan: as part of an existing thread on the subject |
| 23:20 | <brtb> | speaking of mailing list... i really ned to get on that thing, lol |
| 23:20 | <Edgan> | ok, I found it |
| 23:23 | <tinsley> | brtb: its a little high volume :P |
| 23:23 | <mdz_> | it has been recently |
| 23:24 | <matr1x> | just read the archives |
| 23:24 | <mdz_> | it doubled from september to october |
| 23:24 | <tinsley> | i just subscribed starting about Dec 1 |
| 23:25 | <tinsley> | hey, does anyone have their myth setup, with hw specs and pictures online? |
| 23:26 | <mdz_> | I have a page that I've been making notes in since I started, but haven't put it up anywhere |
| 23:26 | <Chutt> | mdz, 360 people now. |
| 23:27 | <mdz_> | Chutt: I was looking at the traffic, but that too |
| 23:27 | <Chutt> | i know, but =) |
| 23:27 | <brtb> | high volume's no problem, all comes to my box here, plenty of space for it |
| 23:34 | <mdz_> | having space for mail is rarely a problem |
| 23:34 | <mdz_> | being able to read and digest it is another matter |
| 23:34 | <brtb> | lol true |
| 23:43 | <Chutt> | mdz, oh, that guy that wrote several emails about his box locking up? |
| 23:44 | <Chutt> | i told him 3 times in private email that it was his sound card, and he should upgrade alsa |
| 23:44 | <Chutt> | of course, he didn't listen |
| 23:46 | <bigguy> | some guy wrote to avoid cmedia based cards and onboard sound but I have a motherboard with a cmedia 8738 and a soundcard with the same chipset and both work great and I have no noise on the line in |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | it really depends, it seems |
| 23:47 | <matr1x> | yah i have one too |
| 23:47 | <matr1x> | it works decent enough |
| 23:47 | <bigguy> | think its UserError |
| 23:47 | <bigguy> | ;) |
| 23:47 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 23:47 | <matr1x> | with 2.6 the alsa drivers should make it even better |
| 23:47 | <Chutt> | i kinda doubt that |
| 23:47 | <Chutt> | like, i'm pretty sure there's some really horrible on-board chipsets out there =) |
| 23:48 | <matr1x> | i had no idea anyone had created anything as feature near-complete as mythtv until knight__ over there started talking about it |
| 23:48 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:48 | <bigguy> | I had to get rid of my sb lives! they just suck compared to the onboard audio on my abit nv7-133r and my cmedia card |
| 23:49 | <bigguy> | plus they seem to have problems on via chipset boards |
| 23:56 | <matr1x> | why is hercules in space on these tv shows |
| 23:56 | <matr1x> | what is sam raimi smoking |
| 23:58 | <bigguy> | Chutt how goes the client/server stuff? |
| 23:58 | <Chutt> | gettin there |
| 23:59 | <bigguy> | cool |
| 23:59 | <Chutt> | almost have live-tv working over the network |
| 23:59 | <Chutt> | it mostly works now, just some small stuff to do |
| 23:59 | <Chutt> | playback doesn't happen over a network yet, though |
