| 00:00 | <mdz_> | I can go back to it, it just starts on the second page |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:02 | <mdz_> | signals overload, right? |
| 00:03 | <mdz_> | so if I emit a signal with an argument of type X, it won't interfere with a signal with an argumnent of type Y? |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | right |
| 00:03 | <mdz_> | I dunno what its problem is then |
| 00:03 | <mdz_> | the only difference from before is that it's nested within a different widget |
| 00:03 | <mdz_> | that should not change what page it starts on |
| 00:05 | <mdz_> | oh, the other difference is I'm selecting it with the keyboard instead of the mouse |
| 00:05 | <mdz_> | is there something I have to do to swallow the keypress event? |
| 00:05 | <mdz_> | maybe it's going through to the wizard and pressing the button |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | dunno |
| 00:06 | <mdz_> | I'm just using the returnpressed signal...hmm |
| 00:06 | <mdz_> | sure enough |
| 00:06 | <mdz_> | if I select it with the mouse it works correctly |
| 00:08 | <mdz_> | aha, I need to accept() |
| 00:08 | <mdz_> | that is what you do in infodialog anyway |
| 00:10 | <mdz_> | nope, that didn't fix it |
| 00:11 | <mdz_> | I don't know what's wrong |
| 00:11 | <mdz_> | I connect clicked() and returnPressed() to exactly the same slot |
| 00:11 | <mdz_> | and one works, while the other doesn't |
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| 00:28 | <mdz_> | Chutt: I'm satisfied that this won't cause any horrible breakage if it goes into CVS |
| 00:29 | <mdz_> | I couldn't figure out what is going on with the returnpressed/clicked thing, but it's not major at this point |
| 00:29 | <Chutt> | go ahead and commit stuff |
| 00:30 | <mdz_> | I'm not going to commit mc.sql because I don't have time to separate the changes right now |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | that's fine |
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| 00:34 | <mdz_> | committed |
| 00:34 | <Chutt> | great |
| 00:34 | <Chutt> | thanks |
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| 00:35 | <mdz_> | I should write something up for the mailing list for when people spaz out |
| 00:35 | <mdz_> | but I need to go to bed |
| 00:35 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:35 | <Chutt> | no worries |
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| 01:34 | <lichen_> | man i should sleep or something |
| 01:34 | <lichen_> | ive been working on this thing all day |
| 01:34 | <lichen_> | ive alrady made a bunch of changes since that patch |
| 02:24 | <witten_> | argh, I just made a recording and it's all jerky on playback |
| 02:24 | <witten_> | but it looks smooth in the little preview window |
| 02:24 | <witten_> | wtf |
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| 03:03 | <Chutt> | mdz, you missed the convert program in your checkin =) |
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| 08:47 | <mdz_> | Chutt: I wrote that for the previous iteration; there is no conversion for this stuff yet |
| 08:47 | <mdz_> | Chutt: but it shouldn't take anyone more than a minute or so to re-input their settings |
| 08:48 | <mdz_> | in fact, there is no way to change the settings from the top level at this point except by bringing up a config widget for the user |
| 08:48 | <mdz_> | but that's easy to add if it turns out that it would be useful |
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| 10:33 | <lichen_> | some guy on the mailinst list said you could get tv out working on the dualheads by compiling in fb support and making X use the fbdev... itried that but then when i run myth it said it cant find an xv device.. can i still do this or is he misinformed or what? |
| 10:40 | lichen | lichen_ Dec 04 10:41:11 <mdz> lichen_: he is correct |
| 10:41 | lichen | lichen_ Dec 04 10:41:19 <mdz> lichen_: what he did not say is that you could run mythtv using that setup |
| 10:41 | <mdz> | and you can't |
| 10:42 | <lichen_> | ohhhh okay, i sorta had a feeling thats what the situation was, after reading the mail over again i realized he didn't actually mention myth... unfortunately that isn't a huge amount of help :( |
| 12:21 | <Chutt> | mdz, ah, that's cool |
| 12:21 | <Chutt> | better to not have a conversion program, actually =) |
| 12:23 | <mdz> | yeah, more testing |
| 12:26 | <Chutt> | i'm quite amazed there haven't been any 'you broke CVS!@#!#!@#!@#!' emails |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | suppose those'll come in a few days |
| 12:29 | <mdz> | no worries |
| 12:29 | <mdz> | I'll just explain that you pushed me into committing it before it was stable :-) |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:32 | <mdz> | my scheduled recording at 12:00 went through fine |
| 12:32 | <mdz> | so at least it can be made to work, even if the setup tool isn't perfect yet |
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| 12:56 | <Chutt> | haha, you got a cvs is broken email :p |
| 12:56 | <Chutt> | gcc 3.2 issue, of course |
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| 13:07 | <mdz> | bah |
| 13:08 | <mdz> | half of that stuff is just debugging anyway |
| 13:08 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 13:08 | <mdz> | I'll just make it use namespace std for now |
| 13:08 | <Chutt> | probably need to include iostream |
| 13:08 | <mdz> | yep, got that already |
| 13:08 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 13:09 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 13:10 | <mdz> | fixed |
| 13:11 | <mdz> | all the RC bugs on gcc-3.2 were closed for a while...someone just opened a new one |
| 13:11 | <mdz> | broken pascal on sparc :-) |
| 13:12 | <Chutt> | see, that's just stupid. |
| 13:12 | <Chutt> | one minor arch shouldn't hold up others |
| 13:13 | <mdz> | it won't, that'll likely get disabled if it isn't easy to fix |
| 13:13 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 13:13 | <mdz> | I don't think it's arch problems holding up the 3.2-as |
| 13:13 | <mdz> | -default transition |
| 13:14 | <mdz> | I dunno what it is now, honestly |
| 13:14 | <mdz> | unless it needs glibc 2.3 |
| 13:14 | <Chutt> | lack of someone to take charge and tell people to start uploading new packages |
| 13:14 | <mdz> | heh, I always go to gcc.org by accident |
| 13:15 | <mdz> | instead of gcc.gnu.org |
| 13:15 | <mdz> | gcc.org does not have a lot of compiler-related information |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 13:16 | <Chutt> | no, no it doesn't |
| 13:16 | <Chutt> | that theme that guy posted last night is nice |
| 13:17 | <Chutt> | aside from a few minor things |
| 13:22 | <Chutt> | yay |
| 13:23 | <Chutt> | if that guy comes through with a new website, that'd be excellent =) |
| 13:26 | <mdz> | I don't follow what is going on in that matrox thread |
| 13:27 | <Universe> | its hard to follow more than half the threads up there... |
| 13:27 | <Universe> | heh.. |
| 13:28 | <mdz> | I really don't think that you can use the matrox backend scaler for Xv using the fbdev driver in X |
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| 14:30 | <lichen_> | yeah i still dont understand how he got xv programs working using the fbdev driver, i wish i had more clue when it came to video stuff :( |
| 14:31 | <lichen_> | oh well, ill go work on mythweb more, something i CAN do :) |
| 14:35 | <vektor> | Maybe with mga_vid? |
| 14:35 | <vektor> | Or some of those other drivers. |
| 14:35 | <vektor> | There are a bunch of non-X overlay surface drivers. See 'mga_vid', or 'vidix', etc etc etc. |
| 14:36 | <vektor> | There's no official backend scaler API for framebuffer console crap though. |
| 14:42 | <mdz> | vektor: yeah, there are ways to use the scaler directly when running on fb, but I don't know of any way to use the Xv extension specifically that way |
| 14:42 | <mdz> | vektor: which is what this fellow seemed to claim he could do |
| 14:42 | <vektor> | oh. |
| 14:43 | <mdz> | specifically, he said that "mplayer -vo xv" worked |
| 14:56 | <vektor> | Well, that's ridiculous unless you have X running. |
| 14:56 | <vektor> | :) |
| 14:57 | <vektor> | Unless mplayer switches it on him. |
| 15:11 | <tusncay0> | chutt, you around? |
| 15:13 | <Chutt> | mostly |
| 15:14 | <tusncay0> | question: the digital connection case you have. does it have a fan in the back next to the power suppy? |
| 15:14 | <Chutt> | there's a space for a fan there |
| 15:14 | <Chutt> | the powersupply doesn't have an external fan, though |
| 15:15 | <Chutt> | so the case isn't really geared towards newer cpus |
| 15:15 | <tusncay0> | i bought the same case from d.c. about a year ago, before they offered the updated power suppy. and you run an XP 1800 with out heat issues? |
| 15:15 | <Chutt> | no, i don't use the case |
| 15:15 | <Chutt> | well, for that machine |
| 15:15 | <tusncay0> | ok |
| 15:16 | <Chutt> | i've got older stuff in there right now |
| 15:17 | <tusncay0> | yeah, i currently have a piii 700 in mine. I'd like to use it with an Athlon, however there isn't much room to fit a 80mm in the back. |
| 15:40 | <Kyzoku> | what form factor boards do you us? mini-ITX? microATX? |
| 15:41 | * Kyzoku | is planning on building a PC for his entertainment system |
| 16:44 | <mdz> | sounds like someone on the mailing list is experiencing the segfault that I see every once in a while on the recording-in-progress dialog |
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| 16:46 | <Chutt> | mdz, which email? |
| 16:47 | <mdz> | Chutt: Message-Id: <200212042230.35291.tclark@telia.com> |
| 16:49 | <Chutt> | oh, the 'hey, i want to record something' dialog? |
| 16:50 | <Chutt> | i never ever test that, really =) |
| 16:52 | <mdz> | I've never been able to catch it in gdb |
| 16:52 | <mdz> | not the "hey, I want to record something" but the "I'm already recording something" |
| 16:52 | <mdz> | or are they the same? |
| 16:53 | <Chutt> | the dialog that pops up in live-tv mode, blended into the video |
| 16:53 | <Chutt> | is what he's talking about |
| 16:53 | <mdz> | oh, that |
| 16:53 | <mdz> | I don't think I've ever seen that, ever |
| 16:54 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:54 | <Universe> | haven't see Ant around for a while |
| 16:55 | <Universe> | wonder how the VCD burning program is going. |
| 16:55 | <Universe> | VCD burning addition..... whatever you want to cal it |
| 16:57 | <mdz> | maybe he vanished |
| 16:57 | <Universe> | that's possible |
| 16:58 | <mdz> | that's a shame |
| 16:58 | <mdz> | that'd be, I mean |
| 16:58 | <mdz> | because the reencoding stuff he would need to have done would be useful |
| 17:02 | <Chutt> | well |
| 17:02 | <Chutt> | i want to do that eventually |
| 17:02 | <mdz> | Chutt: yeah, but he was going to get to it before you would |
| 17:02 | <Chutt> | right =) |
| 17:06 | <mdz> | I really would rather not start giving out directions for making gatos work |
| 17:07 | <mdz> | that road leads to madness |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | aww, why not? |
| 17:07 | <mdz> | if my name ends up in the archives with ati tv out, I will get a flood of mail |
| 17:07 | <mdz> | that thread belongs on the gatos list in a big way anyhow |
| 17:10 | <mdz> | in fact, it doesn't need to go as far as that, it could end at the gatos homepage |
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| 18:31 | <rory> | hi just setup myth and embarked on my first recording but ran outta drive space now I have a file 30_200.....nuv is that the recording ? what format is it ? I intend on investing on a hardrive soon but I just wanna know if it worked |
| 18:32 | <rory> | mn will try it again with more space then |
| 18:32 | <nevertheless> | yes, thats the recording, on channel 30... |
| 18:33 | <nevertheless> | the format depends on your setting |
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| 18:34 | <ShieldWolf> | Hey guys |
| 18:35 | <ShieldWolf> | Quick question: does mythtv support tv functionality built into nvidia cards? (ie asus v7100 deluxe combo) |
| 18:35 | <rory> | ahhh right thx |
| 18:35 | <rory> | i'll change the format to something that can be played back by my mplayer thx for the info |
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| 18:43 | <Chutt> | blah |
| 18:43 | <Chutt> | see /. |
| 18:44 | <nevertheless> | Chutt: what about the quit patch? |
| 18:45 | <Universe> | yeah Chutt... he does link you at the bottom of his page tho |
| 18:45 | <Universe> | heh |
| 18:47 | <Chutt> | i've been busy, sorry |
| 18:47 | <Chutt> | haven't had time to go over it more |
| 18:47 | <Chutt> | i'll get it applied soon |
| 18:47 | <Chutt> | universe, yeah |
| 18:47 | <Chutt> | i'm getting hit |
| 18:47 | <nevertheless> | ok :) |
| 18:48 | <Universe> | Chutt... Thats a bad thing? |
| 18:48 | <mdz_> | I don't understand that article |
| 18:48 | <mdz_> | mplayer and xine != PVR |
| 18:48 | <Universe> | I agree, mdz |
| 18:48 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 18:49 | <mdz_> | heh, all of the links to what could be considered PVR projects were suggested by other people |
| 18:49 | <Chutt> | it's an old article, too |
| 18:49 | <mdz_> | oh god, his shell scripts are painful |
| 18:49 | <Chutt> | two months, i think? |
| 18:50 | <mdz_> | lots of killall -9 |
| 18:50 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 18:50 | <Chutt> | it's a pretty halfassed thing, really |
| 18:50 | <Chutt> | and there's no ui to speak of |
| 18:50 | <Chutt> | the ui's what makes this stuff work =) |
| 18:51 | <Universe> | yep |
| 18:54 | <Universe> | and most of these people that post on /. have no clue what they are talking about |
| 18:55 | <Chutt> | of course |
| 18:56 | <mdz_> | and the goal is "controllable from a laptop" not "controllable with a remote" |
| 18:56 | <Universe> | lol... |
| 18:56 | <Universe> | laptop?... thats crazy... |
| 19:01 | <mdz_> | "It actually worked before the upgrade, but the CPU seemed to be at its edge and I didn't want to use KDE with so little memory. " |
| 19:03 | <mdz_> | heh, it's 320x240 15fps |
| 19:04 | <Universe> | lol |
| 19:07 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:07 | <Chutt> | my wife's complaining about my net connection being really slow |
| 19:07 | <Universe> | LOL... |
| 19:08 | <Universe> | tell her its time to upgrade to a T1.. |
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| 19:15 | <ShieldWolf> | Hey guys... will this project work with my GF2 w TV I/O? |
| 19:16 | <Chutt> | it's best to use a dedicated tuner card for input |
| 19:16 | <Chutt> | otherwise, yes |
| 19:18 | <ShieldWolf> | I've got something like this set up now with W2K, but i'm sick of its tantrums... |
| 19:39 | <lichen_> | i just noticed soemthing really weird, with a certain recording in the "watch a recording menu" i can go down to the recording, watch the preview of it, and even watch the recording in full screen itself, but if i try to scroll down past it, myth locks up |
| 19:41 | <lichen_> | actually it doesn't seem to be just a certain recording, its doing it with a few.... i cant really notice any pattern though |
| 19:42 | <lichen_> | okay, it just seems to lock u pthe interface for like 30 seconds or so then it unfreezes and plays as normal |
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| 20:20 | <mdz_> | yay, I found the bug which screwed up creation of a new profile |
| 20:21 | <mdz_> | Chutt: cvs ops are slow, you need some QoS for priority traffic :-) |
| 20:22 | <mdz_> | I've been waiting like a minute for this diff |
| 20:26 | <mdz_> | Chutt: does tv_settings.xml reflect how you think that the settings should be broken down? |
| 20:26 | <moegreen> | When replaying a show - is there a way to show the data for it (as in the episode name, original air date, etc.) ... it's in the Playback menu, but when I hit 'i' it just shows the current position |
| 20:27 | <mdz_> | I don't think it can do that currently |
| 20:27 | <mdz_> | it's easy enough to press enter (save position) escape (back to the playback menu), look at the info, then enter again to go back to where you were |
| 20:28 | <moegreen> | hmm...ok, not a problem, i didn't know about the save position thing though |
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| 20:29 | <devtrash> | when i install I get this error: |
| 20:29 | <devtrash> | DBI->connect(host=localhost;database=) failed: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO) at -e line 5 |
| 20:29 | <mdz_> | devtrash: it's pretty self-explanatory |
| 20:30 | <devtrash> | where is the script/file at that I need to modify |
| 20:30 | <mdz_> | devtrash: you don't need to modify anything...just give it the correct password when it asks |
| 20:30 | <devtrash> | well explain it to me, pretend I'm an idiot |
| 20:30 | <devtrash> | it doesn't ask..... |
| 20:30 | <mdz_> | did you change your mysql root password? |
| 20:30 | * devtrash | is using the .deb install btw |
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| 20:31 | <qwaaz0> | hola |
| 20:31 | <mdz_> | devtrash: by default, mysql has no password set. the defaults should work in that case. did you change it from the default? |
| 20:31 | <devtrash> | no |
| 20:31 | <mdz_> | hmm |
| 20:31 | <mdz_> | you're installing the latest .deb? |
| 20:31 | <mdz_> | (0.7-12) |
| 20:31 | <devtrash> | yep |
| 20:32 | <mdz_> | what happens when you type "mysql -u root" |
| 20:32 | <devtrash> | Setting up mythtv (0.7-12) ... |
| 20:32 | <qwaaz0> | anyone have opinions on good quality tv capture cards? |
| 20:32 | <devtrash> | ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
| 20:32 | <mdz_> | devtrash: apparently you have a password set |
| 20:32 | <devtrash> | hmmmm |
| 20:33 | <mdz_> | it's not going to be able to create the database without that password |
| 20:33 | <devtrash> | ok 1. how do I reset the mysql password or 2. how do I place the password into the mythTV install 9 if I can find teh pasword that is) |
| 20:34 | <mdz_> | the easiest way to reset the password would be to purge and reinstall mysql |
| 20:35 | <mdz_> | if you know the password, dpkg-reconfigure --force -plow mythtv |
| 20:35 | <mdz_> | and it will prompt you for it |
| 20:35 | <mdz_> | better, dpkg-reconfigure --force --priority=medium mythtv |
| 20:35 | <mdz_> | that way it won't ask too many other questions |
| 20:37 | <devtrash> | ok now I get: |
| 20:37 | <moegreen> | qwaaz0: i've been happy with the ATI TV Wonder VE, although it doesn't have a stereo tuner so it's all mono. This is also a temporary solution |
| 20:37 | <devtrash> | DBI->connect(host=localhost;database=) failed: Access denied for user: 'root@loc |
| 20:37 | <devtrash> | alhost' (Using password: YES) at -e line 5 |
| 20:37 | <devtrash> | Can't call method "do" on an undefined value at -e line 6, <> line 1. |
| 20:38 | <mdz_> | that means the password you entered was wrong |
| 20:38 | <devtrash> | ok |
| 20:38 | <mdz_> | if you run 'mysql -u root' and it does not immediately let you in, there is a password set |
| 20:38 | <devtrash> | thought so....dammit....I need to use mysql more often...what was the password..... |
| 20:38 | <Universe> | you can type mpsql -u root -p and try to guess the password when it prompts you, I believe |
| 20:39 | <mdz_> | Universe: yep |
| 20:39 | <mdz_> | devtrash: do you have other data in mysql? if not, purge and reinstall |
| 20:39 | <mdz_> | devtrash: if you do have data, there is a procedure to reset the password |
| 20:41 | <devtrash> | ok another question: I am not using a Tuner card but just a capture card, that captures from composite and S-Video how would I set mythTV to use that input? |
| 20:42 | <mdz_> | the setup program walks you through it |
| 20:43 | <devtrash> | oh ok |
| 20:43 | <mdz_> | it will ask you what to do with each input |
| 20:43 | <mdz_> | you can tell it to ignore it, or assign a channel source to it |
| 20:43 | <devtrash> | Does XMLTV stuff pull data for DBS Satelite users or is it more generic? |
| 20:46 | <mdz_> | it is more generic |
| 20:57 | <devtrash> | mdz_: cool |
| 20:57 | <devtrash> | mdz_: cool I have it past the mySQL stuff, thatnks for the help |
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| 21:09 | <devtrash> | ack new error: |
| 21:09 | <devtrash> | mythsetup will now run --configure |
| 21:09 | <devtrash> | --------------- Start of XMLTV output --------------- |
| 21:09 | <devtrash> | sh: line 1: --configure: command not found |
| 21:09 | <devtrash> | ---------------- End of XMLTV output ---------------- |
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| 21:15 | <Chutt> | since when is sdl a widget set? |
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| 21:24 | <mdz_> | devtrash: looks like somehow you managed to not specify an XMLTV grabber program |
| 21:24 | <mdz_> | Chutt: does tv_settings.xml reflect how you think that the settings should be broken down? |
| 21:25 | <mdz_> | I'm putting in a basic dialog for the global settings |
| 21:25 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 21:25 | <Chutt> | that mark guy did all that |
| 21:25 | <Chutt> | feel free to rearrange |
| 21:26 | <mdz_> | have you looked at it? |
| 21:26 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 21:26 | <mdz_> | it has themes, channel setup, program guide, playback and recording |
| 21:26 | <Chutt> | channel setup, themes, program guide, playback, recording |
| 21:27 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 21:27 | <mdz_> | I've made setting classes for all of the stuff in settings.txt in CVS |
| 21:27 | <mdz_> | just need to decide how to organize them for display |
| 21:27 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 21:28 | <Chutt> | right |
| 21:28 | <Chutt> | well, hm |
| 21:28 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 21:28 | <mdz_> | I guess program guide would be XMLTV stuff, and not much else |
| 21:28 | <mdz_> | but that overlaps with channel setup |
| 21:28 | <mdz_> | themes is a decent category |
| 21:28 | <mdz_> | I think playback probably is too |
| 21:28 | <Chutt> | well, there's a bunch of epg stuff in theme.txt |
| 21:29 | <mdz_> | but then there are a lot of settings that don't fit |
| 21:29 | <mdz_> | like all the paths |
| 21:29 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 21:29 | <Chutt> | i don't like the theme selection interface |
| 21:29 | <Chutt> | ie, reuse mythgallery |
| 21:29 | <Chutt> | it should be a listbox or something |
| 21:30 | <mdz_> | I haven't gotten to any theme.txt stuff yet, just settings.txt |
| 21:30 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 21:30 | <mdz_> | I'll just put it all in one vertical box for now |
| 21:30 | <Chutt> | there's quite a bit in there =) |
| 21:31 | <mdz_> | yeah, but given that I've changed maybe 2 things in there, the defaults are pretty good :-) |
| 21:32 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 21:32 | <Chutt> | yeah, they are |
| 21:32 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
| 21:39 | <devtrash> | mdz_: I followed the prompts.... |
| 21:42 | <mdz_> | devtrash: look in /etc/mythtv/settings.txt |
| 21:42 | <mdz_> | devtrash: at the top |
| 21:42 | <mdz_> | devtrash: if XMLTVGrab is empty for whatever reason, run dpkg-reconfigure mythtv |
| 21:46 | <devtrash> | ok |
| 21:48 | <devtrash> | mdz_: dpkg-reconfigure mythtv |
| 21:49 | <devtrash> | mythtv is broken or not fully installed |
| 21:50 | <mdz_> | devtrash: well there you go |
| 21:51 | <mdz_> | devtrash: if mythtv hasn't finished installation and configuration, how do you expect it to run? |
| 21:51 | <mdz_> | try dpkg --configure -a |
| 21:56 | <devtrash> | mdz_: okay did that....now do the mythtv_setup? |
| 21:58 | <mdz_> | devtrash: follow the instructions that it gave you |
| 21:59 | <devtrash> | yep and at the top I still get this: |
| 22:00 | <devtrash> | Please name input source #1 [default] DISH |
| 22:00 | <devtrash> | Configuring channel source #1 |
| 22:00 | <devtrash> | mythsetup will now run --configure |
| 22:00 | <devtrash> | --------------- Start of XMLTV output --------------- |
| 22:00 | <devtrash> | sh: line 1: --configure: command not found |
| 22:00 | <devtrash> | ---------------- End of XMLTV output ---------------- |
| 22:00 | <devtrash> | Now, let's connect channel sources to inputs on the capture cards. |
| 22:00 | <devtrash> | and /etc/mythtv/settings as nothing at the first line |
| 22:00 | <mdz_> | what do you mean? |
| 22:00 | <mdz_> | the file is empty? |
| 22:03 | <devtrash> | # XMLTV grabber to use |
| 22:03 | <devtrash> | str XMLTVGrab= |
| 22:03 | <devtrash> | # Live TV options |
| 22:04 | <mdz_> | what did you select when it asked you which grabber to use? |
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| 22:04 | <devtrash> | mdz_: It didn't ask... or I missed that question.... |
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| 22:05 | <mutexer> | Anyone awake? |
| 22:06 | <devtrash> | where would it ask? in the dpkg config or the mythtv_setup? |
| 22:06 | <Chutt> | dpkg |
| 22:07 | <mutexer> | Do any remotes work with mythtv? |
| 22:07 | <mutexer> | if so whats a good one? |
| 22:07 | <Chutt> | anything that works with lirc |
| 22:07 | <mutexer> | ok cool |
| 22:08 | <mutexer> | you recomend a good one? |
| 22:08 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 22:09 | <mdz_> | devtrash: did it ask you any questions when you installed it? |
| 22:09 | <mdz_> | devtrash: if it didn't, then you've done something wrong |
| 22:09 | <mdz_> | that is a high-priority question |
| 22:09 | <Chutt> | debconf question threshold? |
| 22:10 | <mutexer> | anyone know the minimum CPU speed and memory to run everything in MythTV |
| 22:11 | <devtrash> | ok I do a dpkg --reconfigure mythtv and I get these questions: |
| 22:11 | <devtrash> | Is it okay to create the v4l device nodes -- I say no, I already have them |
| 22:12 | <devtrash> | it asks for the database to use -- I se the default |
| 22:12 | <devtrash> | I use teh default user |
| 22:12 | <devtrash> | default password, localhost for the mysql setup |
| 22:13 | <devtrash> | same for passwords in mysql |
| 22:13 | <devtrash> | then it asks what TV standard |
| 22:13 | <devtrash> | then channel freq table. |
| 22:14 | <devtrash> | then this: |
| 22:14 | <devtrash> | mythtv-setup must be run in order to complete MythTV installation x |
| 22:14 | <devtrash> | x x |
| 22:14 | <devtrash> | x You must run mythtv-setup as the 'mythtv' user in order to complete mythtv configuration. For x |
| 22:14 | <devtrash> | x example, as root: x |
| 22:14 | <devtrash> | x x |
| 22:14 | <devtrash> | x su - mythtv -c mythtv-setup x |
| 22:14 | <devtrash> | x x |
| 22:14 | <devtrash> | x and follow any instructions that it gives. Once you have done this, you should be able to run x |
| 22:14 | <devtrash> | x mythtv as the 'mythtv' user. |
| 22:14 | <devtrash> | ack |
| 22:15 | <devtrash> | and when I run the setup I get that --configure error |
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| 22:37 | <[DJ]HaCK> | cam mythtv run on sparc ? |
| 22:37 | <[DJ]HaCK> | s/cam/can |
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| 22:42 | <devtrash> | mdz_: figured it out, xmltv wasn't installed |
| 22:44 | <devtrash> | oh wow, xmltv rocks |
| 22:45 | <darkgumby> | mythtv newbie here, can I get some help, please? |
| 22:45 | <devtrash> | ask away |
| 22:45 | <darkgumby> | I get no video when I try to watch tv. I get audio. XawTV works fine. |
| 22:46 | <Edgan> | darkgumby: does mplayer or xine? |
| 22:46 | <darkgumby> | yes, mplayer and Xine work fine... BTW Mandrake 9.0 with KDE |
| 22:47 | <darkgumby> | more info... usa broadcastTV |
| 22:47 | <moegreen> | has it ever been brought up to record two or three minutes before and after the actual start time...on one or two channels the shows seems to start a minute or two early. I know I could set my clock back those minutes, but then other channels it may get cut off at the end. |
| 22:49 | <devtrash> | darkgumby do you have the right input selected? |
| 22:49 | <darkgumby> | I think so /dev/video0, the input for the card is 'TV' |
| 22:49 | <darkgumby> | Probed: /dev/video0 - Television |
| 22:49 | <darkgumby> | Probed: /dev/video0 - Composite1 |
| 22:49 | <darkgumby> | Probed: /dev/video0 - S-Video |
| 22:49 | <darkgumby> | Probed: /dev/video0 - Composite3 |
| 22:50 | <darkgumby> | when I start mythtvfrontend |
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| 22:50 | <moegreen> | darkgumby: by no video you mean a completely black screen? |
| 22:51 | <darkgumby> | I mean no video window at all |
| 22:51 | <mutexer> | if Im building a system for PVR.. how much memory do I need? is 256 enough? |
| 22:51 | <moegreen> | mutexer: that should be enough, a fast hard drive and CPU is important |
| 22:52 | <mutexer> | how fast cpu? |
| 22:52 | <TheMole> | where does mythtv get the tv listings? |
| 22:52 | <mutexer> | how fast harddrive? is 5400 rpms not good? |
| 22:52 | <devtrash> | zap2it |
| 22:52 | <TheMole> | ok, thanks. |
| 22:52 | <moegreen> | I have a 1.2 GHz athlon and it works well, slower processor may mean you have to record at a lower resolution - it depends |
| 22:53 | <darkgumby> | Mole, 0.5.2 does not work anymore 0.5.4 does |
| 22:53 | <mutexer> | ok..I planned on a 1.3 ghz |
| 22:53 | <TheMole> | What doesn't work? |
| 22:53 | <moegreen> | mutexer: I'm not sure about 5400 rpms drives, I hav a 7200 rpm maxtor. If you have linux installed now do a hdparm test on it and see the actual throughput you get out of it |
| 22:54 | <darkgumby> | xmltv 0.5.2 doesn't work with zap2it anymore, they changed something, newer versions of xmltv do work |
| 22:54 | <mutexer> | I havent bought the drive yret |
| 22:54 | <TheMole> | oh, they are just parsing the HTML? |
| 22:54 | <devtrash> | moegreen: what would you say would be minimum to make VHS quality VCDs? |
| 22:55 | <darkgumby> | dunno what the magic is, xmltv scrapes the listings off the site and outputs XML |
| 22:56 | <moegreen> | I'm watching a 480x480 recording now on my computer monitor and it looks good - I haven't tried lower resolutions, and 640x480 is a bit choppy |
| 22:56 | <TheMole> | It's prolly using regexs and zap2it change the output. I don't think I'll be able to build a PVR anytime soon, but when I do I'm using mythtv. |
| 22:56 | <mdz_> | devtrash: how did you prevent xmltv from getting installed automatically when you installed mythtv? |
| 22:56 | <mutexer> | how is the TV through it? it look as good as a standard TV? |
| 22:57 | <devtrash> | mdz_: beats me :) |
| 22:57 | <mutexer> | or does that depend on the tv card? |
| 22:57 | <moegreen> | yeah, it's hard to tell at this point, I am sitting right by the computer monitor so it may distort my perspective a bit. I think it depends somewhat on the tv card |
| 22:57 | <moegreen> | as well |
| 22:58 | <devtrash> | I did the debian install that is on the mythtv site and added the entries in my sources.list, so when I looked to see if xmltv was installed it didn't appear to be and apt-get'ing it said it was superseded by libxml-perl, which was intsalled |
| 22:58 | <devtrash> | so I just pulled the bz2 of the latest xmltv, and installed it and I am now added my channels |
| 22:59 | <moegreen> | Once I get my tv output 'web cable plus' in two days, i'll be able to tell the difference easier |
| 22:59 | <darkgumby> | brb |
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| 22:59 | <moegreen> | errr, better |
| 22:59 | <mutexer> | do you know if the ATI ALl in Wonder 128 Pro works with it? |
| 22:59 | <mdz_> | devtrash: it was right, it has been superseded by libxmltv-perl, and you should use that, not the tarball |
| 23:00 | <mdz_> | devtrash: mythtv depends on libxmltv-perl, so you already had xmltv installed. must have been something else wrong. |
| 23:00 | <devtrash> | hmmmm |
| 23:00 | <devtrash> | well let me get my channels set up and I'll see if it goes from tehre |
| 23:00 | <moegreen> | mutexer: I'm not sure, but I have an ATI TV Wonder VE which works |
| 23:01 | <mutexer> | using the gato driver? |
| 23:01 | <mutexer> | or ati.2 I think its called |
| 23:02 | <moegreen> | the ATI TV Wonder VE is an tv tuner input card...so I'm not sure about the all in wonder pro 128 |
| 23:02 | <Chutt> | the tv wonder ve is a bt8x8 card, it uses the standard driver |
| 23:02 | <mutexer> | oohh |
| 23:02 | <mutexer> | hmm |
| 23:02 | <devtrash> | how about the PVR-USB? |
| 23:02 | <devtrash> | by uh...crap |
| 23:03 | <mutexer> | ok one more question...thx for answering all my questions.....is a 40gb harddrive big enough? |
| 23:03 | <mutexer> | is it relatively the same as tivo? 1 hour = approximately 1 gig |
| 23:03 | <moegreen> | it is, but the more you want to record and have saved at a time, the more space you need |
| 23:03 | <Chutt> | depends on how much cpu you want to throw at things |
| 23:04 | <mutexer> | I dont want to sacrifice quality..i dont want crappy recorded video |
| 23:06 | <moegreen> | mutexer: the current settings I have has a 1 hour program at around 3 gigs |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | i capture about 1.5GB/hour |
| 23:06 | <devtrash> | isn't it better to have ahard drive that has no filesystem on it? |
| 23:06 | <devtrash> | a raw drive as it were |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 23:06 | <mutexer> | Im thinking of going with a 80 gig |
| 23:07 | <mutexer> | once you can edit out commercials and it actually removes them itll be awesome... all though right now MythTV is awesome |
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| 23:10 | <Dopy> | anyone here? |
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| 23:11 | <moegreen> | yes |
| 23:12 | <The_TiK> | i was wondering if there was anything i could tweak to make watching tv run a little smoother? |
| 23:21 | <moegreen> | The_TiK: are you compressing your audio? |
| 23:23 | <The_TiK> | yeah |
| 23:23 | <The_TiK> | i got it better...it was just my audio sampling rate |
| 23:27 | <The_TiK> | when im watching tv...it has a summary of whats playing...whats the key to get it off? |
| 23:28 | <moegreen> | The_TiK: it should disappear after a few seconds |
| 23:28 | <The_TiK> | ok...thanks |
| 23:29 | <mutexer> | does the tv play fullscreen? |
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| 23:29 | <Memorex> | hi |
| 23:29 | <The_TiK> | mine does |
| 23:29 | <moegreen> | mutexer: yes, there is a transparent overlay that can show the channel/program info |
| 23:29 | <mutexer> | cool |
| 23:30 | <Memorex> | anyone aware of a usb video capture device, with vid4lin drivers? |
| 23:30 | <mutexer> | moegreen: do you use a remote? |
| 23:30 | <The_TiK> | on freshmeat there is a usb driver for wintv |
| 23:30 | <Memorex> | im thinking of the x-box |
| 23:31 | <Memorex> | it should be able to drive a usb capture device |
| 23:31 | <moegreen> | I plan on it, I haven't had time to build the ir receiver |
| 23:31 | <mutexer> | hrm..pvr xbox would be cool |
| 23:31 | <Memorex> | yeah :) |
| 23:31 | <Memorex> | shouldnt be to hard either |
| 23:31 | <mutexer> | microsoft is making an official one but itll probably be a monthly fee |
| 23:32 | <Memorex> | yeah |
| 23:32 | <Memorex> | get mythtv running on it, and show em up :P |
| 23:32 | <Memorex> | it sounds kewl anyhow |
| 23:32 | <mutexer> | heh |
| 23:32 | <Memorex> | anyone see any reason it shouldnt work? |
| 23:33 | <mutexer> | if it worked well you could sell those...itd be illegal ...but people would probably buy one |
| 23:33 | <Memorex> | why wouldnt it work well? :P |
| 23:33 | <mutexer> | processor could be too slow |
| 23:34 | <mutexer> | if you got a source based distro like gentoo on it...you might could get it running good |
| 23:34 | <Memorex> | yeah |
| 23:34 | <mutexer> | processor might be good...dont listen to me :) |
| 23:34 | <Memorex> | optimising it would come after getting it working |
| 23:35 | <Memorex> | :P |
| 23:35 | <Chutt> | i doubt it has enough ram |
| 23:35 | <mutexer> | I wish xbox linux worked without mod chip |
| 23:35 | <Memorex> | yeah |
| 23:36 | <Memorex> | from the xbox-linux site: The Xbox has only 64 MB of RAM. Is this enough for Linux? Can I add more RAM? |
| 23:36 | <Memorex> | Current versions of Linux still work very well with only 64 MB. It is suspected that additional RAM chips can be soldered into the box to extend RAM to a total of 128 MB, but we have no experience with it. |
| 23:36 | <Memorex> | its suspected it can drive 128 |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | it's got 64 MB of ram to share with the video card. |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | not nearly enough. |
| 23:36 | <Memorex> | yeah |
| 23:37 | <Memorex> | true |
| 23:37 | <Memorex> | but im counting on their working out how to get it to address more |
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| 23:38 | <mutexer> | ram support sucks if it shares 64 for both |
| 23:39 | <Memorex> | its probably going to run baddly, but if I can get any of it running will be a kewl toy |
| 23:39 | <Memorex> | you know? |
| 23:39 | <mutexer> | I wonder how tough itll be to modify the mame plugin to work with snes |
| 23:40 | <mutexer> | or any other emulator |
| 23:43 | <Memorex> | yeah that would be kewl |
| 23:49 | <Chutt> | there's hooks there for other emulators |
| 23:50 | <Chutt> | just the mame stuff is the only thing written |
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| 23:52 | <mutexer> | oh.. cool |
| 23:54 | <DigDug> | So what kind of load does mythtv put on a system? I am thinking of using my desktop P4 as a PVR. |
| 23:55 | <Chutt> | on the website |
| 23:55 | <The_TiK> | im using a 1 ghz athlon...works fine |
| 23:58 | <Edgan> | DigDug: The faster the better. I can't do 640x480 mpeg4 live tv well on my Athlon 1.33ghz. |
| 23:59 | <devtrash> | mdz_: |
| 23:59 | <devtrash> | Grabbing XMLTV data using /usr/local/bin/tv_grab_na is not verified as working. |
| 23:59 | <DigDug> | How do you work around it? Is it just choppy? |
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| 23:59 | <mdz_> | devtrash: if you're using /usr/local/bin/tv_grab_na, you're on your own |
| 23:59 | <mdz_> | devtrash: I provide debian packaged versions of everything that are known to work together |
