| 00:08 | <mdz_> | I hate moc |
| 00:08 | <mdz_> | it is truly the worst part of Qt |
| 00:09 | <_shad> | hehe |
| 00:09 | <_shad> | I got mythtv working kinda nice on my p3-450 now |
| 00:10 | <_shad> | for ome reason mpeg4 at 480x480 works nicely, but rtjpeg can't do 480x480 |
| 00:10 | <_shad> | heh |
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| 00:25 | <mdz_> | _shad: maybe it's I/O limited, rtjpeg should use less CPU |
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| 13:04 | <nevertheless> | so, my new system is up and running (incl sound) :-) |
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| 13:05 | <nevertheless> | but sometimes the picture becomes garbeled (using mpeg4) and the sound 'breaky'. does this happen to you too? |
| 13:05 | <nevertheless> | the cpu stays at 50% |
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| 13:18 | <skitzo> | anyone using the mjpeg HW compression suport yet? |
| 14:16 | <mdz_> | nevertheless: DMA enabled on the hard disk? |
| 14:17 | <skitzo> | mdz, anyone have any comments on the mjpeg hw support yet..? |
| 14:18 | <nevertheless> | mdz_ yepp |
| 16:02 | <mdz_> | skitzo: I haven't heard anything, dunno who has the hardware |
| 16:07 | <skitzo> | i wonder how he wrote the support for it .. ? |
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| 16:07 | <sefudier> | gift |
| 16:07 | <sefudier> | oops, sorry |
| 17:42 | <nevertheless> | how can I disable the dpms stuff of xfree? |
| 17:44 | <Edgan> | nevertheless: I have that problem with mpeg4 when running it at 640x480. I don't have the problem on my Athlon XP 1.47ghz, but do on my Athlon Thunderbird 1.33ghz. I don't have the problem with rtjpeg, and don't have the problem with mpeg4 at 480x480 |
| 17:44 | <sefudier> | what problem? |
| 17:45 | <nevertheless> | <nevertheless> but sometimes the picture becomes garbeled (using mpeg4) and the sound 'breaky'. does this happen to you too? |
| 17:45 | <nevertheless> | <nevertheless> the cpu stays at 50% |
| 17:45 | <nevertheless> | right? |
| 17:45 | <Edgan> | The video getting garbled, like it lost sync between the frames |
| 17:45 | <nevertheless> | the sound gets garbled, too! |
| 17:45 | <sefudier> | never: does your screen go red? |
| 17:45 | <nevertheless> | red? |
| 17:45 | <Edgan> | My sound will cut out for a second every so often |
| 17:45 | <nevertheless> | no |
| 17:45 | <Edgan> | no red |
| 17:45 | <sefudier> | with the dpms stuff.. im having trouble turning that shit off |
| 17:46 | <nevertheless> | sefudier: no, it just switches off (the monitor) |
| 17:46 | <nevertheless> | thats quite bad when watchin tv |
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| 17:46 | <sefudier> | i havnt gotten that garbled thing yet |
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| 17:46 | <Edgan> | nevertheless: what version 0.7 or cvs? |
| 17:46 | <nevertheless> | so maybe i have to set the dpms times to a biiiig number |
| 17:46 | <nevertheless> | cvs |
| 17:46 | <Edgan> | nevertheless: cvs from last night here |
| 17:47 | <nevertheless> | yeah, here to |
| 17:47 | <sefudier> | yeah, same here.. only the screen goes red, and i have to press a key, for it to get off the screensaver or whatever the hell that is, i've tried both setterm and xset with no success |
| 17:47 | <Edgan> | nevertheless: you should be able to disable it via a option |
| 17:47 | <sefudier> | what option? :) |
| 17:47 | <nevertheless> | Edgan: the system is a newly build one, so i don't know, where the problem comes from |
| 17:47 | <Edgan> | I think it may be just nodpms, but let me check |
| 17:47 | <sefudier> | thanks |
| 17:47 | <Edgan> | nevertheless: same here, just built it |
| 17:48 | <Edgan> | nodpms doesn't seem to be right |
| 17:49 | <Edgan> | sefudier: do you have a dpms option the monitor section? |
| 17:49 | <nevertheless> | i tried stuff like dpms off and dpms no, but no chance |
| 17:50 | <nevertheless> | so i have to take some glue and glue my ctrl key pressed ;-) |
| 17:50 | <sefudier> | yes i do |
| 17:51 | <Edgan> | DPMSModeStandby DPMSModeSuspend DPMSModeOff set those to 0 |
| 17:51 | <nevertheless> | ok |
| 17:51 | <sefudier> | edgan shoulkd i comment it off? or should i set to NODPMS or something? |
| 17:51 | <Edgan> | 0 = off |
| 17:51 | <nevertheless> | in the device section, right? |
| 17:52 | <sefudier> | edgan i havent got those options, only DPMS, i wonder if just commenting it out will have the same effect? |
| 17:52 | <Edgan> | DPMSDisable may work too, check out http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:PZXKLGp2y3UC:ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.1/doc/DPMS.TXT+XFree86+disabling+dpms&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 |
| 17:52 | <Edgan> | sefudier: add them |
| 17:52 | <Edgan> | sefudier: it may |
| 17:53 | <Edgan> | nevertheless: do you have a problem with audio compression? If I leave the default of on, I get a lame error everytime I tried to start mythtv |
| 17:54 | <nevertheless> | Edgan: no, no mp3 problems at all |
| 17:55 | <nevertheless> | brb |
| 17:59 | <nevertheless> | sefudier: just commenting DPMS out wouldn't work |
| 18:02 | <Edgan> | what processor you using? |
| 18:02 | <nevertheless> | an xp2000+ |
| 18:02 | <nevertheless> | im running two bttv cards |
| 18:02 | <sefudier> | im using the same here, only one card though |
| 18:03 | <Edgan> | I am using a Athlon Thunderbird 1.33ghz as a said before and a bttv card |
| 18:03 | <nevertheless> | and Im running a ECS k7s5a board and a matrox g400 |
| 18:03 | <sefudier> | i havent tested much though, still on a slow hdd |
| 18:03 | <nevertheless> | and for sound i use a sblaster live! stuff |
| 18:04 | <Edgan> | sefudier: yeah, I have an odd 10gig 5400rpm ata66 drive |
| 18:05 | <sefudier> | not even that here.. waiting for prices to come down to get some nice hdds in raid0 |
| 18:05 | <Edgan> | I was running on my main machine, but compiling and such causes sync problems |
| 18:06 | <Edgan> | I have a 60gig, 40gig, and 20gig in a lvm array on my main machine |
| 18:07 | <sefudier> | nice |
| 18:07 | <nevertheless> | Im running just one 120gig HDD |
| 18:07 | <sefudier> | how's the performance on the lvm? |
| 18:07 | <sefudier> | and on the 120gb ? :) (its that WD one?) |
| 18:07 | <Edgan> | nevertheless: yeah, I was looking at getting a 120gb drive, but decided to replace my motherboard instead |
| 18:08 | <nevertheless> | i bought everything from scratch for the (myth)tv box |
| 18:08 | <Edgan> | sefudier: it is good enough. I was running lvm+ext3, but I am not running lvm+ext2. Haven't really noticed a difference, but haven't been benchmarking. Supposedly lvm only adds 3-4% overhead |
| 18:09 | <sefudier> | ic.. how about read/write performance? how many MB/s ? |
| 18:09 | <Edgan> | nevertheless: I threw mine together from spare parts, except for the processor and heatsink |
| 18:09 | <Edgan> | sefudier: don't know |
| 18:09 | <nevertheless> | :) |
| 18:09 | <sefudier> | i have raid in my mb, wonder if it would be better to use it, or lvm |
| 18:09 | <sefudier> | or some other stuff |
| 18:09 | <Edgan> | sefudier: lvm is for combining |
| 18:10 | <Edgan> | sefudier: raid on your motherboard will be software raid |
| 18:10 | <sefudier> | yeah, hpt372 (or was it 374) |
| 18:10 | <Edgan> | sefudier: you can use it's format with linux, but you will get better performance and ease of use from linux's software raid |
| 18:10 | <Edgan> | My old(mythtv) motherboard has a hp370 |
| 18:10 | <sefudier> | really? better performance with software raid? |
| 18:11 | <sefudier> | how come |
| 18:11 | <Edgan> | My new motherboard has promise lite fastrak. I hate the lack of configuriablity of onboard raid |
| 18:11 | <yebyen> | Chutt: hmm... |
| 18:11 | <Edgan> | sefudier: because both are software and linux is more optimized |
| 18:12 | <yebyen> | anyone been getting this lately: |
| 18:12 | <yebyen> | zap2it failed to give us a page: 302:Found |
| 18:12 | <yebyen> | check postal/zip code or www site (maybe they're down) |
| 18:12 | <Edgan> | no, I loaded up listings last night just fine, better than before |
| 18:12 | <yebyen> | hrm |
| 18:12 | <Edgan> | I have found the listings aren't very accurate tho |
| 18:12 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 18:13 | <Edgan> | I keep trying to record star trek and get realtv |
| 18:13 | <yebyen> | that would be related to your locality, i'd imagine |
| 18:13 | <Edgan> | My time isn't off since other channels record fine |
| 18:13 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 18:14 | <Edgan> | It looks like I will stick with record and later watch. Live TV seems to be too much for my Athlon 1.33ghz |
| 18:14 | <yebyen> | their site is all fucked up |
| 18:15 | <nevertheless> | Edgan: with 640x480 only |
| 18:15 | <yebyen> | my provider is gone |
| 18:15 | <yebyen> | motherfuckers |
| 18:16 | <yebyen> | lucky for them I have 40gb of tv saved, or i'd be really pissed off |
| 18:16 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 18:16 | <Edgan> | nevertheless: huh? |
| 18:17 | <nevertheless> | only at 640 your k7 1.33 is to slwo, right? |
| 18:17 | <nevertheless> | s/slwo/slow/ |
| 18:18 | <Edgan> | nevertheless: I only get the garbled video at 640x480 |
| 18:18 | <Edgan> | I get sound pauses at 640x480 |
| 18:18 | <Edgan> | and 480x480 |
| 18:18 | <nevertheless> | but you won't tell me, that a k7 1.33 is too slow for 480x480 liveTV |
| 18:19 | <Edgan> | yeah, livetv works at 480x480, but quality is bad enough at 640x480 |
| 18:19 | <Edgan> | I could probably resolve the sound problem with something like the preemptive kernel patch |
| 18:20 | <nevertheless> | im running that |
| 18:20 | <Edgan> | I could use rtjpeg for a little better quality, but at 5.2gb an hour it is insane. |
| 18:20 | <nevertheless> | thats right |
| 18:21 | <nevertheless> | but i think quality is ok at 640x480! |
| 18:22 | <Edgan> | yeah, quality is ok |
| 18:22 | <Edgan> | I would prefer good or better tho |
| 18:23 | <sefudier> | the only thing im missing here is hdd speed.. my current only does 10MB/s.. im undecided between a 120gb or 2 80gb in raid (which would be 40% or so more expensive than the 120gb) |
| 18:23 | <Edgan> | Going to go with the Savage4 instead of the TNT to get rid of random crashes of X when starting Xvideo stuff |
| 18:23 | <Edgan> | sefudier: distrib? |
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| 18:24 | <sefudier> | gentoo |
| 18:24 | <Edgan> | filesystem? |
| 18:24 | <sefudier> | or the hdd? the 120 would be WD, and the 2 80 would be maxtor |
| 18:24 | <sefudier> | using reiserfs |
| 18:24 | <Edgan> | tried notail? |
| 18:24 | <nevertheless> | what does notail do? |
| 18:24 | <sefudier> | i think i use that option already, let me check though |
| 18:25 | <Edgan> | nevertheless: it tells it not to pack the end of blocks with data from other blocks |
| 18:25 | <Edgan> | tail packing is a way to use space more effectively |
| 18:25 | <Edgan> | but it hurts performance |
| 18:25 | <nevertheless> | aha |
| 18:27 | <nevertheless> | no the biggest problem I have is to get the dual sound stuff with the two bttvs running |
| 18:27 | <nevertheless> | s/no/now/ damn |
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| 18:47 | <giuppi> | hi ! |
| 18:48 | <giuppi> | i have this error: |
| 18:48 | <giuppi> | Cannot open DSP '', dying. |
| 18:48 | <giuppi> | Could not detect audio blocksize |
| 18:48 | <giuppi> | Segmentation fault |
| 18:48 | <giuppi> | when i start mythtv |
| 18:48 | <giuppi> | i installed it from debian packages |
| 19:00 | <mdz_> | giuppi: edit /etc/mythtv/settings.txt |
| 19:00 | <mdz_> | giuppi: look for this setting: str AudioDevice=/dev/dsp |
| 19:03 | <giuppi> | mdz_ yes it is correct |
| 19:04 | <giuppi> | mdz_ i do not have any v4l device on my computer, could be this the proble ? |
| 19:04 | <giuppi> | anyway this is the complete output |
| 19:04 | <giuppi> | mythtv@idioteque:~$ export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 19:04 | <giuppi> | mythtv@idioteque:~$ mythtv |
| 19:04 | <giuppi> | ERROR opening file '/var/cache/mythtv/ringbuf.nuv' in ThreadedFileWriter. |
| 19:04 | <giuppi> | Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 19:04 | <giuppi> | Cannot open DSP '', dying. |
| 19:05 | <giuppi> | Could not detect audio blocksize |
| 19:05 | <giuppi> | Segmentation fault |
| 19:05 | <giuppi> | mythtv@idioteque:~$ id |
| 19:05 | <giuppi> | uid=104(mythtv) gid=104(mythtv) groups=104(mythtv),29(audio),44(video) |
| 19:10 | <Chutt> | why are you trying to run it without a v4l device? |
| 19:11 | <skitzo> | Chutt: how'd you write the mjpeg HW support? did you get a new card? |
| 19:11 | <giuppi> | Chutt i would see the interface of mythtv |
| 19:11 | <Chutt> | someone sent me a card |
| 19:11 | <skitzo> | ahh |
| 19:11 | <skitzo> | which cartd if you dont mind me asking? |
| 19:11 | <Chutt> | giuppi, no, you wouldn't |
| 19:12 | <Chutt> | a g200tv |
| 19:12 | <giuppi> | Chutt why ? |
| 19:12 | <Chutt> | since you're running the tv viewer application |
| 19:12 | <skitzo> | and..... what are you thoughts on the mjpeg hw support? is it worthwhile? |
| 19:12 | <giuppi> | ahh |
| 19:12 | <Chutt> | not really, no |
| 19:12 | <skitzo> | drawbacks = ? |
| 19:13 | <Chutt> | the cpu required for software encoding is cheaper than the mjpeg card? |
| 19:13 | <Chutt> | the compression sucks |
| 19:13 | <skitzo> | hmm |
| 19:13 | <Chutt> | and playback is relatively expensive, even compared to mpeg4 |
| 19:13 | <giuppi> | Chutt how can i see http://freshmeat.net/screenshots/28805/ ? |
| 19:13 | <skitzo> | is the only way i can even see it feasible to get 3+ |
| 19:13 | <skitzo> | cards in a machine |
| 19:13 | <Chutt> | giuppi, read the docs |
| 19:14 | <Chutt> | you won't have enough disk bandwidth for 3+ cards in a machine with mjpeg |
| 19:14 | <skitzo> | even with a disk per card? |
| 19:14 | <Chutt> | uh, no |
| 19:14 | <Chutt> | unless you capture at low quality |
| 19:15 | <Chutt> | and then you could just use a single cpu anyway |
| 19:15 | <skitzo> | uh |
| 19:15 | <giuppi> | Chutt: |
| 19:15 | <giuppi> | mythtv@idioteque:~$ mythfrontend |
| 19:15 | <giuppi> | ERROR: no capture cards are defined in the database. |
| 19:15 | <giuppi> | :\ |
| 19:16 | <giuppi> | i have no v4l device here |
| 19:16 | <Chutt> | so why bother trying to run stuff? |
| 19:16 | <giuppi> | Chutt i want to see the interface of mythtv |
| 19:16 | <skitzo> | and... pardon my 'stupid', but.. how do would you not have enough disk bw if you had a disk per cap card? |
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| 19:16 | <skitzo> | (on its own channel of course.. ) |
| 19:16 | <Chutt> | giuppi, there's screenshots of everything on the website |
| 19:17 | <giuppi> | Chutt does mythtv run on framebuffer ? |
| 19:17 | <Chutt> | no, it doesn't |
| 19:17 | <giuppi> | argh |
| 19:18 | <Chutt> | skitzo, because it doesn't compress very much at all |
| 19:19 | <skitzo> | alright |
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| 20:30 | <yebyen> | hrm |
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| 21:33 | <mdz_> | damn moc |
| 21:51 | <Chutt> | mdz, what's up with moc? |
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| 22:48 | <mdz_> | Chutt: it was giving me trouble, got it fixed now |
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| 22:48 | <mdz_> | aren't g++ linker errors the best? |
| 22:48 | <mdz_> | they're so informative |
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| 22:50 | <mdz_> | Chutt: I'm creating a QGroupBox and then creating a widget with the frame as its parent, without specifying an explicit position for the child widget, and it's placing it on top of the title of the QGroupBox. is that normal? |
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| 22:50 | <mdz_> | it certainly isn't very smart |
| 22:51 | <mdz_> | I do not want to specify explicit positions for all of my widgets |
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| 23:20 | <mirk_dt> | hello |
| 23:21 | <mirk_dt> | how do i compile mythtv with debug information? |
| 23:29 | <mdz_> | mirk_dt: edit the file settings.pro, at the top |
| 23:30 | <mirk_dt> | sweet. thanks. |
