| 00:07 | <lichen_> | yeah 0.8 in cvs |
| 00:08 | <Edgan> | Echo465: I have never heard of one |
| 00:09 | <Edgan> | Tho a google search shows some do exist, tho nothing very mainstream from what I see |
| 00:10 | <Edgan> | It looks like MSI has a nvidia motherboard that has the chip onboard, but still requires a card to go in the agp slot |
| 00:11 | <Edgan> | for the connectors |
| 00:12 | <Edgan> | lichen_: what was the bug and what does 0.8 add? |
| 00:13 | <lichen_> | the default theme is more complete, and it fixes a bunch of bugs |
| 00:14 | <lichen_> | definitely worth it |
| 00:14 | <Soopaman> | Edgan, shuttle's have tvout |
| 00:15 | <Edgan> | Soopaman: ok |
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| 00:15 | <Chutt> | i'm going to be breaking cvs sometime soon |
| 00:16 | <lichen_> | i foudn some bug though... using mythweb i set myth to record something on another channel that was already playing, and the screen popped up saying it will change the channel in 1 second, and i had the option to change, keep watching or go to main menu, so i didn't hit anything and it just sat there |
| 00:16 | <witten> | I also saw a bug related to that |
| 00:16 | <lichen_> | then i finally stopped that, and now in conflicting recordings it says it SHOULD be recording that one show, but instead its watching something else |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | that's nice |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | send in a patch |
| 00:17 | <witten> | haha |
| 00:17 | <lichen_> | hahaha alright alright :) |
| 00:17 | <Edgan> | commands for cvs? |
| 00:18 | <Chutt> | in the howto. |
| 00:18 | <Chutt> | don't use cvs unless you're going to work on it. |
| 00:32 | <Edgan> | Is the ring buffer file supposed to grow huge? |
| 00:34 | <Chutt> | it grows to the size you set in the config file. |
| 00:37 | <Edgan> | ok, I see it is in GB. The default seems to be 5gb. Would it help to make the buffer smaller so it is easier for myth* to manage. For a while mythfrontend was thrashing my hd and interfering with the playback |
| 00:38 | <Edgan> | I mean manage? |
| 00:38 | <Chutt> | mythfrontend doesn't touch your harddrive. |
| 00:38 | <Chutt> | so it can't thrash anything. |
| 00:39 | <Edgan> | ok, well I didn't see any other programs using the cpu other than setiathome and I doubt it was doing it. Maybe it was something mythfrontend was calling |
| 00:39 | <Chutt> | it doesn't call anything. |
| 00:40 | <Chutt> | especially if you're playing back something |
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| 00:40 | <Chutt> | file size isn't an issue |
| 00:41 | <Echo465> | Soopaman: which shuttle board has a tvout? I'm on their site, but not finding any. |
| 00:53 | <Soopaman> | any miniitx board |
| 01:01 | <Edgan> | I can't make the frontend size bigger than 800x600? |
| 01:01 | <Chutt> | geez |
| 01:01 | <Chutt> | you really can't read the settings files, can you? |
| 01:03 | <Edgan> | I looked into theme.txt and found the options at the top |
| 01:03 | <Edgan> | but the frontend won't run if I change the width/height to 1280x1024 or 1600x1200 |
| 01:04 | <lichen_> | does it hurt to be you? |
| 01:04 | <Chutt> | and the error message is? |
| 01:04 | <Edgan> | Must have room for at least 2 rows of buttons |
| 01:05 | <Edgan> | I also tried commenting out the options as the the comments suggest, but get the same result |
| 01:05 | <Chutt> | which version? |
| 01:05 | <Edgan> | 0.7 |
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| 01:13 | <Edgan> | I noticed the comment about using 0.5.3 if xmltv is failing. I am using 0.5.3 and it randomly hangs while downloading. Yesterday I had to run it like a dozen times before it managed to get a weeks worth of listings |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | that's normal. |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | the site's busy |
| 01:18 | <Edgan> | Chutt: So no ideas on the size problem? |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | i'm fixing it now |
| 01:19 | <Edgan> | ok |
| 01:19 | <Edgan> | Thank you |
| 01:31 | <Edgan> | What is mythtv's behavior when it it set to record a new show, but is out of hard disk space? I checked the FAQ in the package and on the website. |
| 01:31 | <Chutt> | it doesn't handle it at all |
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| 01:52 | <Edgan> | Warning: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /var/www/html/mythweb/search.php on line 240 I am getting that from trying to do a search with mythweb. It would seem it means the results are null, but I am searching for things that should definitely be found |
| 01:53 | <Chutt> | it's fixed in cvs. |
| 01:55 | <Edgan> | ok, so what are the commands or at least hostnames and all for cvs? I will attempt to make patches for bugs I find. |
| 01:56 | <Chutt> | yea right |
| 01:56 | <Chutt> | and like i said last time you asked, it's in the howto doc |
| 01:59 | <Edgan> | ok, and where is that hiding? I have searched my 0.7 mythtv directory and I see no sign of it on the website |
| 02:07 | <Edgan> | nm, I found the Download tarball link in CVSView |
| 03:14 | <witten_> | anyone have an xmltv 0.5.3 deb? |
| 03:16 | <Edgan> | witten_: wouldn't be hard to make one with checkinstall |
| 03:17 | <witten_> | checkinstall? |
| 03:18 | <witten_> | oh |
| 03:18 | <witten_> | if I'm gonna do that I might as well just make a deb |
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| 12:13 | <mdz> | Chutt: two weird things happened today. First, I got the 'you have no channels in the database, this won't work' message when I clearly had channels in the database |
| 12:13 | <mdz> | Chutt: and it segfaulted immediately thereafter |
| 12:13 | <mdz> | Chutt: I think it may have something to do with reestablishing the database connection |
| 12:16 | <mdz> | well, establishing a new one |
| 12:17 | <mdz> | the first thing I did after a long period of inactivity was to bring up the EPG from the frontend |
| 12:17 | <mdz> | for whatever reason, the db query failed, and it gave the error |
| 12:17 | <mdz> | I'm not sure why it segfaulted after that, or whether that's expected |
| 12:17 | <mdz> | but I started it back up, and of course it got everything from the db just fine |
| 12:18 | <mdz> | there isn't even a query in the mysql log from when it failed/crashed |
| 12:20 | <mdz> | I obviously didn't have a chance to attach to it, and I have coredumps disabled because they're really painful on NFS, so I don't know where it crashed unfortunately |
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| 12:58 | <Universe> | I hate check cards and the internet.. |
| 12:58 | <splortch-> | as a combination, or just in general? :) |
| 13:02 | <Universe> | as a combo |
| 13:02 | <Universe> | it was too easy for someone to steal $200 from my account. |
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| 13:57 | <splortch-> | nobody's fault but his own :( |
| 14:08 | <Chutt> | mdz, hey |
| 14:08 | <Chutt> | mdz, i'm unsure how to handle that |
| 14:09 | <Chutt> | obviously, it gets disconnected occasionally |
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| 14:25 | <mdz> | Chutt: but it's supposed to reconnect transparently, right? |
| 14:26 | <mdz> | Chutt: it's one of the ones which has no explicit database connection |
| 14:26 | <mdz> | maybe tonight I'll try killing its connection and see if I can cause it to break |
| 14:26 | <mdz> | I just noticed it this morning |
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| 19:29 | <m0tion> | hey, i have an ATI TV Wonder VE installed, it shows up in /proc/pci, what kind of configuration do i need to do so I get a /dev/video device? |
| 19:29 | <Chutt> | read the bttv docs. |
| 19:32 | <m0tion> | where? =) |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | ever try using google? |
| 19:35 | <m0tion> | never heard of it |
| 19:47 | <Edgan> | Should I be able to play mythtv recordings with mplayer? |
| 19:47 | <Chutt> | no, you shouldn't |
| 19:47 | <Edgan> | Is there anyway to play them outside of mythtv? |
| 19:48 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 19:48 | <Edgan> | So I can trasfer them to others without all the database entry baggage? |
| 19:48 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 19:49 | <Edgan> | Hmm, that needs to change. |
| 19:49 | <Chutt> | feel free |
| 19:52 | <Edgan> | Why shouldn't mplayer able to play mythtv recordings? I have seen mention of people doing it in the past and see that mplayer has support for NuppelVideo |
| 19:53 | <Chutt> | why would you think it wouldn't be able to play them? |
| 19:55 | <Edgan> | huh? you just saide nopeto playing recordings outside of mythtv |
| 19:55 | <Chutt> | err, how did i contradict myself there? |
| 19:56 | <Edgan> | First you say no to playing recording outside of mythtv, then you say why do you think it(being mplayer) "wouldn't" be able to play them |
| 19:56 | <Chutt> | what's confusing about that? |
| 19:56 | <Chutt> | it can't play them |
| 19:57 | <Chutt> | i asked you why you thought that might be |
| 19:58 | <Edgan> | mplyaer plays nuppelvideo and the main mythtv page says mythtv uses nuppelvideo libraries |
| 19:58 | <Chutt> | no, it doesn't. |
| 20:00 | <Edgan> | it being mplayer, mythtv page, or mythtv? |
| 20:00 | <Chutt> | the webpage |
| 20:02 | <Edgan> | "I significantly modified the NuppelVideo codec" would say it is probably now incompatiable, but "and eventually decided that NuppelVideo provided the best quality video for the amount of CPU it took up", "Compresses using rtjpeg (from Nuppelvideo) or mpeg4 (from libavcodec).", and the use of .nuv give the impression |
| 20:03 | <Chutt> | considering that i wrote the webpage, i think i know what's on it. |
| 20:04 | <Edgan> | yes, but since you wrote it, you understand exactly what you meant. The best anyone else can do is try to understand what you mean. |
| 20:04 | <Chutt> | well, you seem to have problems reading, anyway |
| 20:04 | <Chutt> | so why don't you stop being a dumbass and questioning what i tell you? |
| 20:05 | <Edgan> | Chutt: Why don't you stop being an asshole to everyone who asks a question? |
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| 20:05 | <Chutt> | sorry, stupid people annoy the hell out of me |
| 20:06 | <Edgan> | There is a difference between stupid and ignorant. I admit I an ignorant when it comes to mythtv. Which is why I ask questions so I can understand. |
| 20:07 | <Edgan> | You seem to have Alot of trouble telling the difference. |
| 20:07 | <Edgan> | Or don't even care to try to see the difference. |
| 20:07 | <Chutt> | let's see |
| 20:07 | <Chutt> | you're ask a question, i answer it |
| 20:07 | <Chutt> | you question the validity of my answer |
| 20:07 | <Chutt> | that's stupidity. |
| 20:10 | <Edgan> | I questioned you on it because you used wouldn't a negative form, when you seemed to have meant would, a positive form. <Chutt> why would you think it wouldn't be able to play them? should have been something like <Chutt> why do you think it would be able to play them? |
| 20:11 | <Chutt> | the second question is not what i meant |
| 20:11 | <Chutt> | so why would i say that? |
| 20:14 | <Edgan> | I had been talking about mplayer, so I would take <Chutt> why would you think it wouldn't be able to play them? to mean Why would you think mplayer wouldn't be able to play mythtv recordings? |
| 20:14 | <Chutt> | and that's exactly what i meant. |
| 20:14 | <Chutt> | very good |
| 20:14 | <Edgan> | haha |
| 20:14 | <Tuscany> | uhm, can I interrupt here for a sec. and ask a question on Mythweb? |
| 20:14 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 20:15 | <Tuscany> | chut, any update from the author on when the next release will be out? |
| 20:15 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 20:15 | <Edgan> | Chutt: Is English your native language? |
| 20:15 | <Chutt> | haven't heard from him |
| 20:15 | <Chutt> | edgan, is it yours? |
| 20:15 | <Edgan> | Chutt: yes |
| 20:15 | <Chutt> | edgan, because you've had trouble reading the FAQ and the website |
| 20:16 | <Edgan> | Chutt: I had no trouble reading the package included FAQ once I knew it existed. The website faq and package faq aren't the same. |
| 20:17 | <Chutt> | so why don't you do something useful and update the faq on the website? |
| 20:18 | <Tuscany> | hehe...speaking of the faq. Chutt would you accept some documentation to update the faq re: external set top box tuners? With respect to configuring lirc and an ir blaster? |
| 20:18 | <Chutt> | 'course |
| 20:18 | <Chutt> | that might live better in the howto, though |
| 20:18 | <Tuscany> | cool. i've noticed some people on the dev list asking questions about it |
| 20:18 | <Tuscany> | true |
| 20:19 | <Tuscany> | i only mention the FAQ because of the following entry: " |
| 20:19 | <Tuscany> | ) Is it possible to have MythTV change the channel on my digital cable/satellite |
| 20:19 | <Tuscany> | box, instead of my tuner card?" |
| 20:19 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 20:20 | <Chutt> | can just make that answer 'yes, see the howto' =) |
| 20:20 | <Tuscany> | it's a little misleading right now |
| 20:20 | <Tuscany> | yep :) |
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